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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Where is Margaret Hanlee? This

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Speaker 1: mother and grandmother, let me add is the US Navy

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Speaker 1: veteran who has been deployed all around the world protecting us,

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Speaker 1: and now it's our turn to help her and her family.

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Speaker 1: Margaret Hanlee, twenty three year Navy veteran, mother and grandmother,

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Speaker 1: disappears last scene in her own home.

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Speaker 2: Was she a victim of some bizarre scam? Joining me?

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Speaker 2: Not only Dave Matt.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories investigative reporter Sergeant Josh Sterner of the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department who is on the road in his cruiser

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Speaker 1: right now looking for her, but also her son Jomo Thompson.

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Speaker 1: Mister Thompson, thank you for joining us. You're joining us

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Speaker 1: from Kentucky. Tell me when you learned your mom is missing?

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Speaker 1: How did that happen?

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Speaker 3: One of her brothers. She has eleven brothers and sisters

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Speaker 3: and they communicate daily to kind of keep up with

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Speaker 3: One of my uncles told me the last that he

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Speaker 3: heard from her was on Monday the eighth, and he

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Speaker 3: alerted me to this on Wednesday. When I found out,

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Speaker 3: I called one of her friends that regular visits her Oma,

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Speaker 3: and she told me, yes, she hadn't heard from my

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Speaker 3: and try to figure out what's going on where she

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Speaker 3: could be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand something.

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Speaker 1: I need to get the timeline perfectly reported, mister Thompson.

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Speaker 1: You stated that one of her brothers called to you

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Speaker 1: and said he last heard from her on the eighth.

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Speaker 1: That would be February. But I have another conflicting report

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Speaker 1: that she was seen in her home February nine. Both

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Speaker 1: of those can be true. So when was the last

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Speaker 1: time of a siding. The uncle may not have spoken

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Speaker 1: to her since the eighth, but she may have been

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Speaker 1: sided on the ninth. Do you know the truth of that,

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Speaker 1: mister Thompson.

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Speaker 3: I know that police pulled her over on I believe

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Speaker 3: it was the eighth. I have my notes here, pulled

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Speaker 3: her over and for running a red light at four am,

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Speaker 3: And that was the last siding of her as far

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Speaker 3: said she hadn't seen her in like in over two weeks.

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Speaker 3: So she said she had spoken with her, but hadn't

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Speaker 3: seen her.

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Speaker 2: Well, was your mom out at four am? Curious?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea because my mom stays at home.

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Speaker 3: The only place she really drives to is Walmart in

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Speaker 3: her neighborhood. Doesn't like to drive. She likes to be

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Speaker 3: at home her activities or watching her soap operas the

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Speaker 3: Price is Right, and talking to her family. So the

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Speaker 3: behavior of her being out and spotted in Gainesville and

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Speaker 3: in Hinesville, Georgia is just very strange to us, and

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Speaker 3: that's what we're trying to figure out what is going on.

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Speaker 2: Mister Thompson, you are so correct.

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Speaker 1: My mom, ninety four, lives with us, but when she

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Speaker 1: was still living on her own, she had like a

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Speaker 1: little circle like we all do. We all have a

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Speaker 1: parameter where we normally are. It can be the grocery store.

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Speaker 1: My mom was the grocery store, the church piano classes.

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Speaker 1: Grocery store, church piano classes. And if I had heard

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Speaker 1: she was in a different city or out at four am,

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Speaker 1: I would know something is very very wrong. You're absolutely correct,

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Speaker 1: And I want to point out, mister Thompson, that we've

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Speaker 1: done a little checking into your mom. This lady, a

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Speaker 1: twenty three year Navy that went to her favorite places.

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Speaker 2: She would go to the grocery store, she would go

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Speaker 1: That's it, Okay, I don't understand what's happening.

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Speaker 2: Tell me exactly, mister Thompson. Where is her home? What

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Speaker 2: city is it? Hinesville?

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Speaker 3: No, it's in Jacksonville, Georgia. She lives over.

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Speaker 2: The Jacksonville, Georgia. Yes, and where's Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Georgia For people that are not familiar with the geography

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Speaker 3: Her address was in Southern Oaks. She lived on a

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Speaker 3: street called Southern Oaks. And again, just a nice neighborhood,

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Speaker 3: this is just again just all very alarming to us.

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Speaker 3: She's deviated from the behavior she's exhibited in the last

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Speaker 3: which kind of leads me to believe that maybe she

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Speaker 3: was being scammed she was on the dress. I just

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Speaker 3: don't know. I just really don't know. I hate to speculate.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to keep my thoughts positive and optimistic

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Speaker 1: The family not eating, the family not sleeping, They want

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Speaker 2: Fear grew. When the family tried calling.

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Speaker 1: The victim in this case, Missus Hamley, aged seventy two,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't reach her. She apparently left with her vehicle

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Speaker 1: FAB nine.

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Speaker 2: That's what we think. Well.

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Speaker 1: Jomo Thompson springs into action following a missing person's report

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Speaker 1: with local police. He checked her bank account and was

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Speaker 1: alarmed at what he found. What did you find in

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Speaker 1: your mom's banking account, mister Thompson, Just.

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Speaker 3: The dang question on the ninth, Like transactions like two

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars, two hundred dollars, two hundred dollars taken out

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Speaker 3: from TPUSA, which is a Hello Mobile company, So I

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Speaker 3: think that was the maximum month she was allowed to withdraw,

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Speaker 3: and then a withdrawal from Walgreens as well, five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: And my mom very frugal. This again is just not

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Speaker 3: like her. She had automatic withdrawal set up for her mortgage,

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Speaker 3: her friend that would help her with groceries and she

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Speaker 3: pretty familiar until about a month ago. Then I just

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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I want to follow up with a Sergeant Josh Sterner

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Speaker 1: is joining us right now. He is currently in the

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Speaker 1: Georgia jurisdiction and he's flying down I ninety five right

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Speaker 1: now in his search for seventy two year old Margaret Hanley.

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Speaker 1: Sergeant Sterner, thank you for being with us, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for taking time to publicize her photo and the tip line.

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Speaker 1: Let me give everybody the tip line right now while

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Speaker 1: I've got the sergeant on the phone. Nine zero four

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Speaker 1: three zero zero five hundred Margaret Hanley. She is a

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Speaker 1: mother and she is a grandmother. Her family can't sleep,

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Speaker 1: they can't eat.

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Speaker 2: Where is mom?

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Speaker 1: Sergeant Sterner, thank you for being with us right there

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Speaker 1: when you've got a seventy two year old woman making

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Speaker 1: these cash withdrawals from this place, in that place.

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Speaker 2: Her Toyota rav four E.

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Speaker 1: How far could she have gotten? Back to Sergeant Josh Sterner,

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Speaker 1: that's not right. Why is this little old lady, this

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Speaker 1: grandma making all these cash withdrawal Sergeant.

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Speaker 4: That's what we're trying to find out, Nancy. I appreciate

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Speaker 4: you having me on here at this point. We're trying

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Speaker 4: to get with the banks to see where these cash

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Speaker 4: withdrawals came from. That way we can trace them. Working

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Speaker 4: with our Economics Crime division who's used to doing these

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Speaker 4: fraudulent charges, to see if they are fraudulent. That way

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Speaker 4: we can get further investigative leads, so hopefully find out

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Speaker 4: where Margaret is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Dave mc seventy two year old Navy that grandma,

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Speaker 1: it looks like she's going up with her wallet out

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Speaker 5: Looks like she's going to make a withdraw it, Nancy.

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Speaker 5: Now I don't know, missus, Hanley, but I'm looking at

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Speaker 5: what appears to me to be a worried seventy two

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Speaker 2: Nancy.

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Speaker 5: A couple of things you haven't mentioned so far. The

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Speaker 5: family has found two large check receipts, one for ten

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Speaker 5: thousand dollars and another for twelve thousand dollars. Not to

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Speaker 5: mention in the days since she's been missing, these two

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Speaker 5: hundred dollars withdraws being made. This is a very very

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Speaker 5: frugal woman who does not waste money, watches her pennies,

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Speaker 5: have her apparently looks like she's going to make a

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Speaker 1: Okay, straight back to Sergeant Josh Sterner. He is with

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Sheriff Department in Florida. He is flying down

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Speaker 1: I ninety five right now. Everybody's searching for miss Margaret. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that a ten thousand dollars check and

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Speaker 1: it's just a draw, that's not going to help me

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Speaker 1: at all. But somebody had to cash it. What do

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Speaker 1: we know about those big check sergeant.

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Speaker 4: So those big checks were written but never cashed. Her

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Speaker 4: of that account. It was written to actually an older

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is a total scam. If the old guy

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Speaker 1: how are they doing it?

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Speaker 2: How are they doing it?

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they backed out of the checks when

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Speaker 1: they realized the evidentiary problems with them, Sergeant Sterner, and

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Speaker 2: To get cash withdrawals. What do you think about it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's always a possibility. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: at the time she was by herself. And then we

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Speaker 4: also have her up in Patterson, Georgia, which is just

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Speaker 4: it appears on that video that she is also still

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, what was the date

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Speaker 1: she was spotted in Bradford County, Florida. I got the guess,

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Speaker 1: and what was the date she was in Patterson, Georgia.

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Speaker 4: So she started her travels on February seventh and traveled

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Speaker 4: throughout the day and evening through the eighth. Time we

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Speaker 4: I believe.

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Speaker 2: And that was in Patterson, Georgia.

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Speaker 4: That was in Hinesville before thirty pm. She was in

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Speaker 2: On mate, got it.

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Speaker 1: Got it back to her son, Margaret Hanley's son, Jomo Thompson.

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Speaker 1: Mister Thompson, again, thank you for being with us. This

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like your mother at all, not.

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Speaker 3: One bit, Nancy. And that's just what's so concerning. What

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Speaker 3: someone could have Puffsy said to her to spring her

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Speaker 3: in quite some time, to you know, change up her schedule,

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Speaker 3: to deviate to drive to all these places. My mom.

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Speaker 3: I remember twenty years ago when I went to visit

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Speaker 3: had apprehension about just coming to the airport to pick

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Speaker 3: me up to take me back to the base. So again,

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Speaker 3: like she was on to duress. But again I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just speculating, trying to keep my thoughts positive. All

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Speaker 3: I care about is finding my mom. I don't care

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Speaker 3: just want to get her home and that's our primary concern.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you, mister Thompson. And another

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Speaker 1: thing that everyone should know about your mom is she

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Speaker 1: does have some short term memory loss. I believe, and

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Speaker 1: I'm quoting you. If you ask what she had for

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Speaker 1: where were you stationed ten years ago? She could tell you.

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Speaker 1: That Florida has a Silver Alert that helps find missing

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Speaker 1: seniors that is in Florida. There are limited resources in

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Speaker 1: that jurisdiction. We are looking for this mom, this grandma

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Speaker 1: Margaret Hanley to Sergeant Josh Sterner taking time to talk

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Speaker 1: to us tonight, Sergeant Sterner, what are you guys doing

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Speaker 4: We're doing anything and everything we can. We've gotten with

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Speaker 4: she was last seen. I'm just trying to scour and

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Speaker 4: put out be on the lookouts for her. And honestly, Nancy,

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Speaker 4: what you're doing with her story tonight, it's a help

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Speaker 4: because the more people that see her and see her vehicle,

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Speaker 4: that is more possibility. We have to have leads to

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Speaker 4: figure out where she is, and like mister Thompson said,

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Speaker 4: the ultimate goal if she ends up getting scammed, we

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Speaker 4: just want to know where she is and to find

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Speaker 4: her safe.

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Speaker 2: Also, guys, this little lady went all around the world

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Speaker 2: for her country.

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Speaker 1: She was posted from my dad was posted in Guam,

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Speaker 1: and she's been everywhere protecting our country, and now we

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Speaker 1: need to protect her. Her family can't sleep, they can't eat.

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Speaker 1: They're looking for their mother. If you know or think

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Speaker 1: E elephant S Sally M Mother F Frank twenty three,

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Speaker 1: please dial nine zero four six three zero five hundred

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Speaker 1: repeat nine zero four.

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Speaker 2: Six three zero five hundred.

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Speaker 1: She could be on the side of the road, she

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Speaker 1: could be crashed, she could be carjacked, please look for

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Speaker 1: missus Margaret.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Dave Mac. Thank you to.

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Speaker 1: Sergeant Josh Sterner from Jacksonville Sheriff's. Thank you to mister

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Speaker 1: Thompson her Son representing her family. Thank you everyone for

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Speaker 1: joining us now and now help us find miss Margaret.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off, Thank you friend,