1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: The Chancellor announced a raft of infrastructure projects with forms 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: of pensions, benefits and trade deals yesterday. Joining us now 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: is someone who was in the room when she made 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: that speech, Chevoron Havlin, Director General of the British Chambers 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: of Commerce. Good morning, Chavorn, thanks for your time. You 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: have called this a clear marker. You welcomed the Chancellor's 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: push for growth, but it won't deliver in the short term, 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: will it. 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: It will deliver in the short term and lots of 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: different places. Remember this is a really difficult time for business. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: Natal insurance increases are going you know, coming in place 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: in just a few weeks, so tax rises for all businesses. 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: So it was really good to see the Chancellor focus 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: on economic growth. Airport expansion, Heathrow, Doncaster, Sheffield new Road, 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: rail low attempts crossing East West rail and rebalancing the 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: planning system as you were outlined. 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: So those things will have not just there are a great. 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: Signifier, global signifier of confidence and the direction we're traveling in. 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: You know, big infrastructure projects, as you say, take a 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: long time, so you need to start now. But remember 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: that indicator for the small and medium sized businesses in 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: those supply chains will already give them confidence to think 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: about investing now and growing their businesses now so they 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: can supply those into those infrastructure projects. 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 4: But Tavon, is it going to be enough. Those businesses 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 4: are worried about how they're going to pay for the 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: national insurance rise coming in a couple of months time. 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: The budget has been very difficult and we've seen that 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: reflected in both business and consumer confidence figures. 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: The budget has been very difficult. 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: It has, and especially if you have a business with 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: a large employee base, it is going to be very hard. 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: Our businesses are telling us they're going to have to 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: put up prices if they can. A lot of them 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 2: have already put up their prices. That's going to be tricky. 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: They're going to take it in their margin, which means 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: lowersment or they're going to slow down recruitment and none 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: of that is good. But you remember, at the same 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: time in the budget the Chancellor also said to mitigate 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: against those issues, we need more opportunity for business and 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: she talked about getting Britain back to building homes, hospitals, 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: energy infrastructure, and so you know, the announcements yesterday are 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: a really good step in that direction. 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: They're a really good indicator for that. 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: Okay, things that infrastructure projects, it's not just local supply 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: chains and local economic development. Often supply chains run all 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: over the country. Connectivity, airport expansion. That's fantastic for trade, 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: you know, moving our goods around the world, and it 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: also global competitiveness. 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Okay, but she did not reverse the tax increases on 51 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: business from the October budget. I mean, okay, you can 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: understand why she might not do that, but she will 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: be under pressure to do something in the spring statement 54 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: potentially if her fiscal head doom disappears, it's either going 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: to be cuts to government or it's going to be 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: more tax increases. Are you expecting more tax increases to come? 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Do you want her to do, let's say something that 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: would be much more business positive, lower corporation tax in Britain. 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: We well, I don't know what she's going to do 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: in the spring, and we're definitely not expecting any tax 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: increases for business. She's been pretty clear that that was 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: a what did you call it yesterday, once in. 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: A generation tax increase. 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: However, there are other places where she can help business, 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: so we've asked her to accelerate her review of business rates. 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: Business rates are the tax that you pay on property, 67 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: so really hard. If you're on the high street, you know, 68 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: before you've even sold a single product, you're paying tens 69 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: of thousands in tax. So how she can review business 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: rates and change those more quickly to help our high streets. 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: And actually, you. 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: Know the other thing is the quickest way to grow 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: our economy is through trade. Our biggest trading partner, the EU, 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: is still really hard to move goods over the border there. 75 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: What is the government doing more quickly to help businesses 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: who are trading around the world. 77 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: Okay, Chavon, thank you very much for joining us. Chavonne Havlan, 78 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: Director General of the British Chambers of Commerce,