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Speaker 1: Worrying. Today's episode contains spoilers for Night of the Seven

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Speaker 1: Kingdoms Episode three. The Squire, Hello and.

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Speaker 2: Jason skips on and I'm Rosie Night and.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Next Revision, the podcast where we divp

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture. Coming

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Speaker 1: from My Heart podcast, we're bringing you three episodes a week. Listenies.

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, guys, I gotta tell you something.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a crazy statement.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 2: It's January twenty ninth.

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Speaker 3: We're not even through the first month of the year,

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Speaker 3: though it feels like it's been a year already.

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Speaker 2: This may be my favorite TV show of.

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Speaker 3: As we are going to get into an episode three,

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Speaker 3: I think all of the incredible things that they have

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Speaker 3: been seating in episodes one and two come together in

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Speaker 3: this really fantastic, complicated, challenging way. So we're gonna recap that,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna discuss our feelings about it, and then of

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Speaker 3: course we're gonna go bluhah blah and with something fun

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Speaker 3: and last for this from the Seven Kingdoms.

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Speaker 1: Egg wakes up before Dunk and here pause. Here's a

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Speaker 1: moment where we move away from Dunk's perspective, and we

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Speaker 1: do it, I think in the most significant way yet

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Speaker 1: that we have seen completely. So this is from from

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Speaker 1: Egg's perspective. Now Egg wakes up before Dunk. He's thinking

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Speaker 1: about things. He's clearly worried about Dunk's preparation. Is he

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Speaker 1: ready to get into the lists coming up real soon? Here?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And he thinks to himself, horse, I must prepare the horse.

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Speaker 1: So he goes off to feed and bond with Dunk's

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Speaker 1: war horse, and that he leads him off to a

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Speaker 1: about the whole thing, because he's like, who the fuck

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Speaker 1: is this kid? And Egg is like, listen, this is

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Okay, to Dunk into all of us,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be kay I, it's gonna be crazy out there.

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Speaker 1: We need to get you ready, Like are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to be ready? And the horse is like, fine, okay,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I just got to say, like I this

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Speaker 2: But I love this sequence.

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Speaker 3: There's this great moment where Egg goes, you know, this

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Speaker 3: is what my father thinks.

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Speaker 2: He thinks you should never talk to a horse. They

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Speaker 3: And then he says to the horse and the horse

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Speaker 3: is like, well, what the fuck brow And then he's like,

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Speaker 3: but I don't believe that, Like I believe that horse

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Speaker 3: doesn't want to be ordered around like any other man,

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Speaker 3: you know. And it was just so incredible to kind

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Speaker 3: of see this connection and again that magical realism because

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Speaker 2: To talk to the horse, the horse nods.

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Speaker 3: I thought I was like making it not, but then

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Speaker 3: and then we get this great training montage.

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Speaker 1: So it's a it is a wonderful training montage. It starts,

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Speaker 1: like passing dunk his weapons. As thunder rolls by. As

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Speaker 1: is like, hey, did you steal that horse? Young man?

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Speaker 1: This is Robin Riesling the Mad Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

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Speaker 1: He lost his eye during a tournament and h he's

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Speaker 5: and he's like drive, so you really know, like he's crazy,

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Speaker 1: He's a Gil Robert Reasling the Mad Night of the

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Speaker 1: squire for Sir Duncan's at all and Mad Night is like,

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Speaker 3: That every time bro and excess, if you will, you

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Speaker 1: Back at Camp, Duncan is suing sewing his new emblem

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Speaker 3: Wanting to teach Egg and having this patience and being

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Speaker 1: Dunk is excited. This is the big day. He's ready

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Speaker 3: Breath of the Wild. I've gone some eggs and I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they really let it breathe. Here, eat their breakfast,

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Speaker 1: and you know, after the tournament, I would love to

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Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna be a night. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: a naked night. Like I don't think it's really dawned

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Speaker 3: Dunk is aware of the dangers in a way that

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Speaker 3: Egg is not really considered Egg just hees a big, tall,

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Speaker 2: You can do it. We're gonna bless on the stars.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's a it's such a wonderful moment. And

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Speaker 3: Yeah if I win, of course you can squire for me.

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Speaker 2: And uh yeah, it's such a such a great little

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Speaker 1: Plumber, the Master of Games, comes and finds Dunk and

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Speaker 1: he tells Duncan that, you know, Lord Ashford, this is

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Speaker 1: he's a good jow story's on the lists, and Plumber says, well,

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Speaker 1: Why don't you think about it. I'll come see tomorrow

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Speaker 3: This is also one of my favorite lines in the show.

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Speaker 3: Comes from this scene where the Plumber is kind of

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Speaker 3: don't want to win that I didn't un and Plumber says, well,

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Speaker 3: haven't you earned it? Like everything you've been through, Like,

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Speaker 3: you will get for winning against this man? Like sure,

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Speaker 3: maybe I'm I'm just asking you to do what you

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Speaker 3: up so much of Dunk's idea of honor and honesty

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Speaker 3: doesn't understand that there are machinations at play, there are agendas.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was such a good wrinkle and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a shocking development. He's about to see

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Speaker 1: something even more shocking. The Hordes announce the games for restarting,

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Speaker 1: and it's Arian Arian Targarian today, Arian Targarian.

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Speaker 2: His parents did not like him.

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Speaker 1: Dog's Arian Targarian.

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Speaker 2: That's a mean name. George knew he was going to

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Speaker 1: Arian calls out to his competitor, who is Humphrey Beesbery.

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Speaker 1: I believe right? Yeah, is so you call? You know?

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Speaker 1: Egg will be king Diana. Hot fire worms will devour

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Speaker 2: And he doesn't want to be recognized. That's becoming cleos.

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Speaker 1: And Raymond and Dunk discuss the day's events. They discuss

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Speaker 6: War war war war, war, war, war, and.

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Speaker 2: I love this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so good because also Dunk is like shocked

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Speaker 3: He's talking about how they enslaved the people, forced their

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Speaker 2: Like, you refuse the call. You refuse the call. Like

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Speaker 3: A little bit of that energy here of like fuck

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Speaker 1: Well you also realize one why Baylor it thinks it's

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Speaker 1: Raymond is updating dunk On these missing princes. Oh who

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Speaker 2: All, specifically because I think is what he says. He's hunting.

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Speaker 1: Huh, he's hurting.

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Speaker 3: Can't sell fucking hulks out, bro they even do like

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Speaker 1: So Dunk runs to the tent, and Arian has his

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Speaker 1: and he says to Dunk, you know, why what'd you

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Speaker 3: I also got to say they should again they go

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Speaker 2: Stump his teeth. Yeah, he's been fucking American history X like.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna die. He's gonna die in horrible fashion after

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Speaker 3: Really, Egg did not think this through because the reality

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, like he was always putting

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Speaker 3: so many ways.

431
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: I love the last.

432
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: Line of the show, which is the true reveal in

433
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: case you haven't caught onto it yet and it's Arian

434
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: says to him, what happened to your hair?

435
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: Brother?

436
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: And then he looks at him and he goes, I

437
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 3: shaved it off because I And he says, what did

438
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: you was? What did you do with your hair? And

439
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: he says, I shaved it off, brother, because I didn't

440
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: want to look like you.

441
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, egg On, you

442
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: are so powerful.

443
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: I love you so much.

444
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: I love him, my sweet baby's never done anything wrong

445
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: in his life. And Dunk bat.

446
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: Really really, really really quickly forgive him because, like like

447
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: you said, Jason, he's ten.

448
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: Let's say good break and we will come back to

449
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: discuss this episode in the math. So here it is

450
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: the reveal I would love to hear from anybody in

451
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: our discord when they realize, yes, egg was one of

452
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: the missing kids. Probably, I'm guessing probably pretty early, probably

453
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: pretty early in episode two that's around there. But man,

454
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: a lot of really interesting things in this episode, and

455
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: I think you have to start with Dunk kind of

456
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: having the wool like torn from his eyes. In episode two,

457
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: he's realizing, oh wait, my mentor my father figure probably

458
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: at worst lied to me. At best seriously exaggerated a

459
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: lot of things to me about his life and possibly

460
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: about everything I know about knighthood. And then in episode three,

461
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: Dunk realizes the games are corrupt, probably on a regular basis.

462
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: The ruling family cheats, kills, steals, lies, and we all

463
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: just have to be okay with it. And then finally,

464
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: my young squire, who I thought I was doing him

465
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: a favor when I rescued him from the stables nearby Ashford,

466
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: who I thought I was elevating to this interesting life

467
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: of adventure in service to a night, has actually been

468
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: a lie to me. He is part of the royal family,

469
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: and it's really possible that I die now because of

470
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: the things that he has got me mixed up in.

471
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: It is a shocking. It's an episode of earthquakes for Dunk,

472
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: and you can see it in his face in that

473
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: final moment where he's just.

474
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god.

475
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: Angry, you know, disappointed, heartbroken.

476
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, he's completely heartbroken.

477
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: I also think again, this is an issue of Dunk

478
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 3: not really understanding how the world works, you know, like

479
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: he really was somebody who was gonna just believe what

480
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 3: Egg told him and kind of go with the flow

481
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: of the situation and presume because of his eld because

482
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: of his age and because of his height, or because

483
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: of the fact that he found this kid in the stables,

484
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 3: he didn't ask enough questions. He wasn't curious enough, And

485
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: I think that tells us a lot about Dunk. And

486
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: I also just love that this whole episode is about

487
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 3: them becoming close and becoming friends and becoming allies to

488
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: each other. And you know, we see these moments where

489
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: it says kind things to Dunk that Dunk has clearly

490
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: never heard before. This idea that Dunk would get the

491
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: most beautiful woman, an egg would get the second most beautiful.

492
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful and also just.

493
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: Like really heartbreaking because by the time you know, you

494
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: get to the end. I also want to ask you, Jason, like,

495
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 3: did you is this the timing you kind of expected

496
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: for the story as because we know that this is

497
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: the big kind of middle moment of the book and

498
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: then we're leading into that final twenty did you kind

499
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: of expect it or did you think they might drag

500
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: it out a little bit longer?

501
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: No, I think this is well, I'll say the timing

502
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: and I didn't expect was only six episodes a half hour.

503
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: Yes, agree, agree, So.

504
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: With that in mind, I think it's very natural to

505
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: have this reveal happened here. Again, it's it's it's pretty

506
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: much beat for beat where it happens in the story,

507
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: so you know, it was quite expected. I think, if amazing.

508
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: In the novella, it's much more mysterious, obviously, because.

509
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say, is like, yeah, it's

510
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: definitely a little bit more of a mystery there, a

511
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: bit more of a rug pull. I'm so interested. I

512
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: do want to know if people because a lot of

513
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: people have gotten into this and who haven't watched all

514
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: of Game of Thrones and who don't necessarily know the

515
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: you know, the names and the legacy titles and things

516
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 3: of egg On and egg and how that could come together.

517
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: They maybe don't remember, you know, the moment in Game

518
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: of Thrones where we see the Master kind of have

519
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: that memory and everything.

520
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: So I'm really excited to see people.

521
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: Reacting on the day this comes out who don't know

522
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: and see if they didn't get it, because I think

523
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: this could be a really great shock if you just

524
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: have no kind of prior knowledge and haven't been trying

525
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: to solve them Stree.

526
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I completely agree. And then let's talk about Egg,

527
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: because egg Man Egg, Egg spends a lot of the episode,

528
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean, basically on the run. Since we've met him.

529
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: We realize now that Egg has been running from his life,

530
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: from his brother, from his brother, from the hierarchical role

531
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: that is laid out for him, which is go probably

532
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: go hide, you know, at an old town, learning to

533
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: be a master unless we need you, unless we desperately

534
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: desperately need you, and if we right, and if we

535
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: do need you, things have gone horribly, horribly horribly wrong.

536
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: So clearly Egg is dissatisfied with that, wants a life

537
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: of adventure, wants a life of realness around freedom or

538
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: freedom from this kind of oppressive family structure that he's

539
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: been living in. And uh, you know, freedom from his

540
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: clearly bullying, oppressive brother, who heats, who he wished death.

541
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: Die stranger like somebody he doesn't even know.

542
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: And it's not like a you know, I've scrapped with

543
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: my you know, I think anybody with siblings has fought

544
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: with their siblings, sometimes viciously screaming stuff like I'll kill you.

545
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Nobody really means it. Egg meant it. Egg, I think

546
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: sincere well, I think.

547
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: Egg has obviously seen the horrors of what Arian can do,

548
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: which is why he was so traumatized by the horse.

549
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: I also think.

550
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: Again, I think this is the kind of really emotional,

551
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: emotionally intelligent storytelling they're doing on this show that people

552
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: aren't giving it credit for. We begin with Egg breaking

553
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: an abusive cycle that his dad got into of only

554
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: abusing animals, connecting with an animal on an emotional level,

555
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: understanding that these are intelligent, beautiful creatures and that they

556
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: can be part of this team that him and Dunk

557
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: are crafting to kind of gain this freedom. And then

558
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: he sees one of those creatures killed horrendously by his brother,

559
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: just say his brother can win. There's so much journey

560
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: on him, and I think that this is an episode

561
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: that cements whatever angry feelings that Egg has.

562
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: And obviously, if you've.

563
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: Read the book, you know where this is going, and.

564
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 3: If not, you're going to be in for a really

565
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: interesting kind of emotional continuation of Egg's journey as he

566
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: deals with the fallout of this reveal and also what

567
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: it means for Dunk and the Tawney and for Arian,

568
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: Like it just gets so much better from her, I

569
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: can't wait to see how they adapt it.

570
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Same and I you have to feel like Egg, you

571
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: know how they say You often hear people say everyone

572
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: should have to work like a service job at one

573
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: point in their life, Like everybody should have to be

574
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: like a waiter or a waitress that's the weight staff,

575
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: at some point in their life. And it kind of

576
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: feels like, if you're gonna rule, you should have to

577
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: walk around a little bit. And yet how life is,

578
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: and Egg has has acquired that experience now, albeit not

579
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: exactly in the lowest of the low born, you know,

580
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: not probably it's still probably in elite spheres obviously in

581
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: a tournament where everybody is in service of royalty in

582
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: some form of fashion, and it's not exactly like the

583
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: small folk. But Duncan is a wonderful representative of that class,

584
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: and you have to feel like, whether Egg realizes it

585
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: or not, and despite the fact that dunk Is feels

586
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: betrayed by him, clearly from a look on his face,

587
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: that the experience will be beneficial for Egg no matter

588
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: what happens.

589
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: I love that read because you're so right, like I'm

590
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: my friend at the incredible poet and just general Superstar

591
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: Bridge Minimal used to always say that like anyone who

592
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: has to like live in life should do like a year,

593
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: you know.

594
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: A retail job.

595
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: I love that this is the West Rosie version, and

596
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: I love again something subversive that this show is doing.

597
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: Oftentimes that kind of lifestyle is seen as.

598
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: A punishment or tough.

599
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: And look, obviously, Egg now that we know it's Egg on,

600
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: he's kind of romanticizing it a life away from the

601
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: Targarian kind of boot.

602
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: But I actually think it's really cool.

603
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: That they're showing that, like, hey, the small folk have happiness,

604
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: they can find community, they can live in a way

605
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: that does not need to be defined by like success

606
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: or the breaking of the wheel or whatever kind of

607
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: leads these rich, crazy Targarians and the like to to

608
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: take power. And I think that is really cool, and

609
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: I love that it's very clear that this is an

610
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: impactful journey the egg is on, and I'm so excited

611
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 3: to see him kind of continue that and see how

612
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: that was shape him as he grows up.

613
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: Couple other things to talk about here, Lord Ashford rigging

614
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: the tournament against his son crazy money well.

615
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: As well, sounds like.

616
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: The son is in on it because he was on it.

617
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: But still, I mean, this is you know, Dunk's shock

618
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: is and you know the insult that he feels that

619
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: this kind of dishonoring of the competitive Uh, you know,

620
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: the standard of competition here at the tournament is understandable,

621
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: but it's like even more shocking when you really think

622
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: about it. It's like, Lord, it's Lord Ashford's tournament, rigging

623
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: the tournament, and he's rigging it against his son with

624
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: we could we can only assume his son's connivance, right,

625
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: because his son is going to take because Poma said,

626
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: like can he take the dive?

627
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: You know he'll he'll take the dive, Just let him

628
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: take it, Okay, question Jason, is this also how sa

629
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: Alan defeated the other tag Ay And is that also

630
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 3: some kind of twenty flo like an issue?

631
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: You think that was.

632
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Well fight now that we think about it, perhaps right,

633
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: perhaps he was. It was it was it was the

634
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: gray Lion, Lord Lanister that he unhorsed. And now you

635
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: now you have to you do have to wonder that

636
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: said four lances against Baylor. It wasn't such that it

637
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: was for but that's still no joke, that's legit. But

638
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: you have to you have to wonder now and everything's

639
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: in question, and it reminds me of like, you know,

640
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: in in our world. In today's world, there are all

641
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: these you know, as as capitalism has expanded to the

642
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: point that it needs to devour itself, we've had we

643
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: have these like uh legalized gambling markets like ball market

644
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: and and cash which I which I always think of

645
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: as the serial but is uh is called calshi correct

646
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: and where you can bet literally on anything. And there

647
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: are so I won't go into it, but there are

648
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: so many examples of like clear corruption and riggedness. How

649
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: many even on those markets. Yeah, it's reminiscent of that.

650
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Rich people can get away with it,

651
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: so why wouldn't they.

652
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that essentially you could argue that

653
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: Lord Ashford put this tawny on to get out of

654
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: debt by rigging it so someone else could win is

655
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: a crazy thing but also makes so much sense. Like

656
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: even if we think about the red wedding and shit, like,

657
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: people go to a lot of scheming and planning in

658
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: West Rows. So running a little tawny, let me make

659
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: a little money on the side pay off your debts.

660
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: It's not that crazy, but I do feel like if

661
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: the king found out, you could get your head chopped.

662
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: Off, you could definitely get in a lot of trouble.

663
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, like I do, I do feel

664
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: bad for him from this perspective. He is like, there

665
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: is no state slush fund for stuff exactly. He's paying

666
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: for that. He is paying for the tournament, like he

667
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how much he would make from this scheme,

668
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: but it probably wouldn't get him to break even. And

669
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: you see it in Game of Thrones when when the

670
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: Starks are talking about the fact that Robert Bobby b

671
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Barrathi and King Barrathian and the royal family are coming

672
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: north for the first time ever and they're going to

673
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: stay with the Starks for an unknown amount of time

674
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: and how expensive it's going to be because they have

675
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: to feed the entire royal retinue and they had to

676
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: put him up somewhere and they have more y, you know,

677
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: and so it's it's a massive, massive, massive expense for

678
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Lord Ashford, and so you I understand, but yeah, this

679
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: is a shocking corruption. And then lastly, Raymond Fossoway's diatribe

680
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: against the Targarians.

681
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: It's so good.

682
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: It's so good, and it's again indicative of what we

683
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: have to assume is a probably pretty general This is

684
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: the way how the Blackfire Rebellion. Remember we hear Eggon

685
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Eggon to Prince Egon targaryt singing the song of the

686
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Blackfire Rebellion at camp with Duncan. This is in the

687
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: wake of that devastating war that that tore the kingdom

688
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: in half, and you could killed so many people and

689
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: you can end you know, who's the true dragon, who's

690
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: not the true dragon? The fake dragon had the king

691
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: sword like this.

692
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and family's dying and you don't have many food,

693
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: and so.

694
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: You understand the feeling that that Raymond is putting forward

695
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: here that who the fuck are these guys? You know,

696
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: like some of these families. Yeah, like even like the

697
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: first men have been here for thousands and thousands and thousands,

698
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, potentially more than eight thousand, ten thousand years whatever.

699
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, however, you want to read the timeline, the

700
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: and Alls who arrived later have still been here for

701
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of years, and the Targerians kind of

702
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: just showed up three hundred years ago and started messing

703
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: around so you understand from that perspective, the perspective of

704
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: like these, this ancient culture, these ancient families. Raymond's complained

705
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: that these are they're aliens who just showed up. They

706
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: have completely different like rituals and culture cultural mores than

707
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: we do. They are fucking their brothers, sisters, cousins, you

708
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: know whatever, Willie. No, yes, we fuck our cousins probably,

709
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: but like first, but brother and sister and dad and mom,

710
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: Like this is crazy. They practice blood magic, which is

711
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: probably how they bowed the dragons to them, you know,

712
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, and so what why we can't wait to

713
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: be ridd Let's get rid of them. We should be

714
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: rid of them as soon as possible. And that also

715
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: lets you know why the Mummers are putting on Listen,

716
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: the Mummers are or business people too, and their play

717
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: is probably tremendously popular. Whether or not open Yeah, whether

718
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: openly critiques the Targarians, it probably obliquely does. It probably

719
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: is subversive in some kind of way, and that is

720
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: probably why it resonates with the everybody who's watching it

721
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: so much.

722
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Jason, before we get to the last from the

723
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 3: Seven Kingdoms, obviously, just from the show from what we've

724
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: seen so far, aside from what we know of the

725
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 3: books and stuff, how do I feel like Baylor is going.

726
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: To be horrified by this?

727
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: Like this to me seems like an unimpeachable like he's

728
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: not gonna want to protect Arian or help make our

729
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: protect Arian, and I feel like that's going to create

730
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: a conflict.

731
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

732
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: Well, Targarian pride more important than the keeping the people

733
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: on side.

734
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: It depends Targerian pride, maybe not, but targeting authority certainly.

735
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: I think that I think that Baylor would be well,

736
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: first of all, it's probably would not be his place.

737
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: It's either make our's place or the king's place. To

738
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: punish or otherwise criticize a prince of the Blood like

739
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: macar would kind of have to do. Baylor is the

740
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: crown Prince. I don't think is you know, unless he's

741
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: ready to take it's not his place yet. But I

742
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: think he's probably very, very concerned about this, like it's

743
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: bad for business to go around smashing things up and

744
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: breaking people's fingers and killing random knights. That said, the

745
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: fact that the that dunk struck him, Baylor would not

746
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: get in the way of that Baylor would. I think

747
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Baylor would understand the seriousestness of that you can't even

748
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: lay a finger on.

749
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: Let alone have a huge guy like Knock.

750
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

751
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: I will say I kind of love the way something.

752
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: We were talking about earlier about kind of like the

753
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: layout of the show and like House of the Dragon first,

754
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 3: then this then leading into Game of Thrones timeline wise.

755
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: I kind of love the echoes we're getting because Baylaw

756
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: in the moment at the Tawney and Here it was

757
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: giving Visera's it was giving, like he's a good guy,

758
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: but he's not gonna do shit to help anyone when

759
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: it really comes to like he helped Dunk. But in

760
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: that moment, it's gotta be targarian. It's got to be

761
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: the family. And I kind of like seeing the messy

762
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: interactions that go on behind these closed doors. And I

763
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: feel like whatever happens post Arian, whether or not we

764
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: see it, is going to be giving, like Allison and

765
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: Rinera in the chambers with the kids arguing like I am,

766
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: We're probably not gonna see that, but I can imagine

767
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: it's going to cause a lot of problems because it

768
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: does contradict what Baylor is trying to build in the

769
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: small funk.

770
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: I agree. And what I wonder is is is the

771
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: king keeping abreast of any of this? King Darren the

772
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: second right, does he either have does he either have

773
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: which often is the case, like he'll have a spy somewhere,

774
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: Like there's somebody in that camp, surely that is or

775
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: just like you know, like a master who's friendly to him,

776
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: or you know.

777
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: Something even plumber is like planning to corrupt. There's probably

778
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: a lot of different people making a lot of different.

779
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Money, or has or is Baylor keeping him a breast

780
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: of things or are they just like, fuck, this is

781
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: a mess. Let's just keep this quiet for now, and

782
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't spread. I mean, that's what I'm

783
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: waiting for to see in episode three is how is

784
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: how will the Targarians manage this? Because this is a mess.

785
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: You saw it. I mean you saw when Arionid the horse,

786
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: the crowd went fucking nuts like it was close to

787
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: a riot. It was very very close. The King's guard

788
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: and other security forces didn't didn't quell that. That could

789
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: have gotten ugly.

790
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: And so.

791
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: That feeling is there in the camp generally like you're

792
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: fuck like, don't fuck these guys. And so this is

793
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a very very tense and very very sensitive situation.

794
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm eager to see how Baylor handles it.

795
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: I think you're right.

796
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 3: I feel like what we really are seeing here is

797
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: that Targarian madness and that Targarian cruelty. Because after what happened,

798
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: Arian got his little cheat wind, they quelled the rebellion.

799
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: You take that, You go fucking sit down, you drink

800
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 3: your wine, you have sex with your brother or whatever

801
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: you do as a Targarian.

802
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: And then you know.

803
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: And then the next morning you go out and everyone goes, oh,

804
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: it's Arian, he won, how fantastic, and they pretend the

805
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: game is continuing. I think that by going in and

806
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: hurting tantsell and I will say as well, I do

807
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: prefer that in this version. You know, this is again

808
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: something else about the show I love. In the book,

809
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: it is more of like a classic game of fe

810
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: and she tries to force himself on her. Here we

811
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: get this more of this kind of brutality and cruelty

812
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: of breaking the thing that she uses to create art,

813
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 3: to make money using her hands.

814
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: And I think that is gonna absolutely.

815
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: Just rile up the small folk in a way the

816
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: arian hasn't even considered because he doesn't value Tantsel, but

817
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: she is clearly valued within this traveling Tawny community.

818
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 2: So I agree.

819
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: I cannot wait for episode four and to see kind

820
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: of what the fallout of that maybe as we head

821
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: into the inevitable kind of big Tawny episodes.

822
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with

823
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: our quick thoughts letters from the Seventh Word, okay, Rosie

824
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: uh or from the Seven Kingdoms. The quick things that

825
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: stood out to us in this episode. I'll go first,

826
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: the eggs. These goose eggs.

827
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: What kind of he said, goose eggs? But I gotta

828
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: fucking huge.

829
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 7: Has you seen the size of this man's hands, Jason, Like,

830
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 7: it's like a fucking Ostrich egg.

831
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I do not believe a goosegg is that big.

832
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 7: Also, when they cracked the yolk, that shit looked as

833
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 7: big as egg's head, So like that was a crazy

834
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 7: I need to eat a goose egg if that is

835
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 7: really what a goose is like, someone please tell us.

836
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: I saw them in his hands and I was like,

837
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: those would take up my entire hands.

838
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 7: Big.

839
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: He's he's huge, and you know what I want to

840
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 3: know how much they cost. Let me know, dounk because

841
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: that looks like expensive breakfast. But I love that you

842
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: treated our boy like that. Yes, Jason, I think that

843
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: is a great call. I just wanna talk to the Targarians.

844
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: I know it's dangerous. You're gonna get me in trouble.

845
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna die. But guys, you gotta get some nannies.

846
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: You gotta get some like you know, nursemaids, wet nurses.

847
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: And you got to just have them looking after the kids.

848
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: Like I've seen a lot of Korean dramas, right, and

849
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: a lot of Korean dramas are about women who are

850
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: hired to look after four hot cousins who are all billionaires.

851
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: Why don't the Targarians have a woman like that who

852
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 3: can fucking tell these boys off because they are getting

853
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 3: in trouble. Eggon running away, Dearron, drunk all the time,

854
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: trying to stop those prophetic dreams.

855
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: It's not helping.

856
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: Maybe have someone encourage him or try and read them.

857
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: They could be useful, fucking maker like you are, bad dad,

858
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 3: my guy, Like, I just need the Targarians to bring

859
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: in someone who has any idea how to keep an

860
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: eye on a child, who, by the way, not hard

861
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: to do. I'm sorry, Like it's hard to raise children,

862
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: but as an adult you can keep an eye on

863
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: a small child. Just stop drinking like mead and having

864
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 3: sex with royals, which is what all of the Nights

865
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Speaker 3: Guard get up to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a King's Guard is shit. My next

867
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: one is we need we need referees at these trainees.

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00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: It Christy like stuff happens and uh and that's it,

869
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: and like obvious cheating is happening, obvious spiking of horses.

870
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: We have corruption going on and I don't even know

871
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: who scores the hits. He's like, that was legitimate. Okay,

872
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: that was to the point to the challenger, like we

873
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: how are we even figuring out what's going on? We

874
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: need some kind of scoring system.

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00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

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00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: So first of all, I actually think this leans into

877
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: one of our favorite talking points about this show. I

878
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: think this is about Dunk's perception he doesn't really know

879
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: the rules, so we don't know them.

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00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: It just looks and violent.

881
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: But I agree, and I also love that this is

882
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 3: coming back to like one of the first points Aaron

883
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: made about the show when we were in pre pro

884
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 3: and he was like, I don't understand the rules of jousting.

885
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: And I said, I just watch a night till this

886
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: is the only way I know.

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00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 4: But it's true.

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00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: And I have to say, though, Jason, I'm going to

889
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: be Devil's advocate. I agree on a spiritual and moral

890
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 3: level that there should be referees. Obviously, cheating is happening

891
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: corrupt in a bounds which referee would be able to

892
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: tell a tog arey and they cheat it and not

893
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 3: just die.

894
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: That's that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Right, here's my here's my here's what I here's my proposal.

896
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: For every day of the tournament, you select like the

897
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Speaker 1: five high most highest ranking high borns who are there

898
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: at the tournament to watch or whatever. Yes, I love this,

899
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: and every day you rotate one through five so that

900
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: a different one is judging during the is there's still

901
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a corruption, yes, of course, but I think

902
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: it'll be better, maybe less. I think it'll be marginally

903
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: better if you do that. That's my proposal. I hope

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Speaker 1: they take it up.

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00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 4: My law.

906
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: My last one is.

907
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: Just a plead to duncan please forgive Egg. He's just ten,

908
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 3: he's a good boy, he's doing his best. I believe

909
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: you can forgive him by so I am going to

910
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: get me killed. And the truth is, look, I understand,

911
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: because the truth is that fucking if you don't us

912
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: whatever what rosewell, whatever the fuck his name is, he

913
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: was right like the tog Arians fucking blow and they

914
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: don't give a shit about anyone. And I understand dog fucking.

915
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: Like Doug is Dunk nose crosswell.

916
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: Like you know Rosamond, but he's fucking right like the

917
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 4: tog Arians blow, and Dunk sees that now, and I

918
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: hate that he's affiliating that with Egg, who I think

919
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: is trying to break this.

920
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: Like also, Doug, please forgive him please.

921
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Speaker 1: Uh my last one is I need an update now

922
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: on his dunkle warg theory. He's Egg because Ed and

923
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: that horse were having full on conversations. I will often

924
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: say as I'm walking Donna around my wife and I

925
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: I'll be like, we just talked to her, I just

926
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: talked to her stuff, and she's like We'll just be like, oh, yeah,

927
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: I know what, I know what that means. And I'm

928
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: now I'm just gonna spot react to that. That was

929
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Speaker 1: how I am not a warg. But Ed it does

930
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: not have like a long relations which horses, and he

931
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Speaker 1: was absolutely like chopping it up with thunder heat. Yeah,

932
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: it was just like I got you, kid, let's do it.

933
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Speaker 3: And then suddenly he's like the world's best uh.

934
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Speaker 4: Like w hors too, Like he's like crazy, like he's like, yeah,

935
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Speaker 4: I do love a I know.

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Speaker 2: I think that too.

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00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: I also think that when it comes to especially like targarians,

938
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: you never know what kind of crazy powers they got

939
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 3: from all that inbreeding and occult magic and all that shit.

940
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: And also I do feel like I wouldn't say like

941
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: an EmPATH, which is obviously like a hilariously online word

942
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: that has been taken over, but I would say this

943
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: episode leans into the idea that Egg maybe has his

944
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 3: own kind of spider sense. There are these moments where

945
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: he kind of clocks things about people or instantly recognizes them.

946
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: Robert Robin riiseling stuff like that, where he just instantly

947
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 3: understands who someone is and how to interact with them.

948
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: And maybe that's just because that's his survival instinct. But

949
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: I think with the horse, there is an implication here

950
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 3: that him and Dunk may be part of their connection.

951
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: Is this kind of sensitivity to nature or the natural world,

952
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 3: which also would make sense.

953
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Speaker 1: For a mesta. I have one more for that is

954
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Speaker 1: this fortune teller we know we've seen. We've seen other

955
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: instances of fortune telling, though from seemingly more legit prognosticators

956
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: in Game of Thrones, in House of the Dragon, there

957
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: is the woods Witch and Game of Thrones, and presumably

958
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: she had some real magical juice to her this time,

959
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: though it certainly seemed as if the fortune teller was

960
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: generally a scammer who's just kind of like doing a

961
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: street scam. Raising the possibility that there is something magic

962
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: about the Tigerians that activates.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love the ability to read.

964
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Speaker 1: Read the future somehow in people who are even pretending

965
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Speaker 1: to do so.

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Speaker 2: M No, I think I love that because also if

967
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: we think.

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Speaker 3: About, you know, House of the Dragon and the witch

969
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 3: who lived in the castle and everything like, there is

970
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: always this kind of thing of like, are you really

971
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 3: a magical person or are you just like existing on

972
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: a plane where you're on the same page as the

973
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: old Targarian blood or something. And it definitely it was

974
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Speaker 3: my favorite kind of fortune tellotrope one. Congrats to them

975
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: for not making her blind that it's so overdone. I

976
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: don't know where they're still obsessed with that. Second of all,

977
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: I love the old Oh we're pranking, or we're it's

978
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: Victorian times and we're taking these rich people for a

979
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: scam by pretending to do an exorcism.

980
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: But then you truly connect and get possessed, And I

981
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: love that.

982
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: As you know, we know that the things she's saying

983
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: about dunk, like if you've read the books, maybe there's

984
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: something to them.

985
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: Well we can say like, certainly it felt that one

986
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: felt different, that that that prediction felt different.

987
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: But when she sees Egg, I feel like there is

988
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: this magical connection where he feels it and she feels it,

989
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 3: and suddenly there's a real prophecy. Now is that prophecy

990
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: gonna come true? We don't know, because that kind of

991
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 3: stuff can always shift and change. It's the Harry Potter

992
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: thing with Neville and Harry being born at the same time.

993
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 3: You know, there's all these different ways it could change.

994
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: But in that moment, I think you're onto something with

995
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: the Targarian magic, maybe allowing other people to read them

996
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: in a way that isn't necessarily possible if they're just

997
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 3: talking to like a normal smallborn person.

998
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: Well, that's it for this episode. Coming up on Extra Vision,

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Speaker 1: we dive deeper into this episode the third episode of

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Speaker 1: A nine of the Seven Kingdom's The Squire on our

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Speaker 1: Ravens Report coming up later this week, plus wonder Man.

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