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Speaker 1: mante This is Dan Patrick Howur two on this Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Dan and the danstan Patrick Show. We're down to dant

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Speaker 1: surprise surprise for season on here. Didn't feel too well yesterday, No,

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Speaker 1: he felt well. He just didn't sound well yesterday. But

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Speaker 1: Fritzie has the morning off. Yes, Andrew, what looks the quote?

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm not sick, I just have a cold. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonnaday This it's just a cold. And I

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Speaker 1: told him, I said, look, we have to travel to Miami,

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Speaker 1: said that to him yesterday. Oh no, I'm all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sick. Well he's sick. I said, you better

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Speaker 1: be on the plane, that's all. Better be on the

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Speaker 1: plane managing the people on that plane or thirty four atha. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not contagious. I'm good. I'm good. Chris Berman will

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Speaker 1: join us coming up here in a little bit. Also, sorry,

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Speaker 1: when Fritzie does that, it's it's it's it's alarming because

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Speaker 1: it's guttural. Do it again? See and then I go, god, Fritzy,

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Speaker 1: come on classic. Yeah, I know all right. Chris Bermon

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Speaker 1: will join is coming up. Also, Joe Thomas, the former

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Speaker 1: All Pro tackle with the Browns. He'll be working the

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Speaker 1: game tonight for the NFL network. You have Bears Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and we are writing the headlines in case the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: lose because of the Bears. You know, the Bears lose,

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Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. But if the Cowboys happen

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Speaker 1: to lose us He keeps Clay Helton. More on this

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Speaker 1: story coming up a little bit. I watched basketball last night.

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Speaker 1: North Carolina got embarrassed last night at home against Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Virginia got embarrassed at Purdue last night. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I know he's polarizing. Dan Dockage is one of the

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Speaker 1: best college basketball analysts out there. He teaches me something

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Speaker 1: every single game that I listened, and he was doing

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Speaker 1: the Purdue game last night against Virginia, the Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: Those are teams that could go to the Final four.

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Speaker 1: Good morning SWA, How are you hi? Dan, Good to

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Speaker 1: When we were walking outside that day after we had

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Speaker 1: and you never told me, as usual, Witness Protection Program. No,

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Speaker 1: You're coachable. It took forty years. You're coachable. Well, didn't

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Speaker 1: at the end of this conversation, it's your show, buddy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: has Freddie Kitchen's done enough to keep his job? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's really going to come down to these last four

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Speaker 1: games of the season. The obviously they have greatly not

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Speaker 1: list up to expectations, and so right now it's not

428
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Speaker 1: looking very good for Freddie. When you have the amount

429
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Speaker 1: of talent that they am on offense, to have a

430
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Speaker 1: quarterback like Baker Mayfield brick Dress and not be able

431
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Speaker 1: to score points the way they have struggled to score

432
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Speaker 1: points this season, it's not a good look. And obviously

433
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Speaker 1: I think they really have to finish this season strong

434
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Speaker 1: and put together a case for Freddie Kitchens that says,

435
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Speaker 1: you know, I made a lot of mistakes in my

436
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: first year as a head coach, but I was able

437
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Speaker 1: to improve in the last quarter of the season, and

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Speaker 1: they can see that he's headed in the right direction

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Speaker 1: as a head coach. If he's not able to do that,

440
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Speaker 1: it's going to be a tough sell for him to

441
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Speaker 1: the Hasms to bring him back. I look at a

442
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: couple of situations here, Joe, like Dallas. Dallas is in

443
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Speaker 1: that great position you feel like a better coach, a

444
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: different coach comes in. That's a super bowl that you

445
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Speaker 1: have super bowl talent on that team. Cleveland has this

446
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: window of opportunity with two good running backs. You got

447
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: young talent on the defensive side of the ball line

448
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: could be better. You have a young quarterback, and you

449
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: have some talented wide receivers. You don't want to miss

450
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: this opportunity because you don't know when it'll happen again.

451
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Speaker 1: And I see the Browns and Cowboys their ownership probably

452
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: looking at this the same way and saying, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: we need to bring We don't have the right person

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Speaker 1: in in either one of these jobs. What do you

455
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: think You're exactly right. That's why the pressure is so

456
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: high right now in the Haslams to be able to

457
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: get the coaching position correct right now. And that's why

458
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Speaker 1: these last four games are so crucial because, like you mentioned,

459
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Speaker 1: right now, they've got Baker on the rookie deal. They've

460
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Speaker 1: got incredible talent for a lot of different reasons that

461
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, specifically at the running back position, being able

462
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Speaker 1: to get Kareem Hunt really cheap because of what happened

463
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Speaker 1: with his situation, and then having Nick Chobb on a

464
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Speaker 1: rookie deal. I mean, they're full of young talent, which

465
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Speaker 1: is great because they were able to get all these

466
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Speaker 1: good players under the salary cap, but that only lasts

467
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Speaker 1: for so long. You know, when these guys come up

468
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Speaker 1: for free agency, you're gonna have to pay them, and

469
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Speaker 1: a lot of those names aren't going to be on

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Speaker 1: the team, So this is definitely their window if they

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Speaker 1: want to make that run. Former Brown's all protacle Joe

472
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Speaker 1: Thomas joining us. He'll be part of NFL Network's coverage

473
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Speaker 1: tonight Bears Cowboys. If the Cowboys lose, finish that sentence.

474
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Speaker 1: To me, it's an if then proposition right now for

475
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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett because it's gonna be if they can win

476
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Speaker 1: the division and get into the playoffs, then he's able

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Speaker 1: to keep his job depending on how the team does

478
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. If they're not able to make the playoffs,

479
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Speaker 1: then he gets fired. Absolutely. If they make the playoffs

480
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Speaker 1: and lose right away, he gets fired. But if they

481
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Speaker 1: can go on a run in the playoffs, I think

482
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Speaker 1: there's enough for Jerry Jones to say let's bring him back.

483
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Speaker 1: So Tonight's game is important for the playoff race, but

484
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: they're still in command because the NFC East is so

485
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: bad that even if they lose tonight, they can still

486
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Speaker 1: win the last three and make the playoffs. Yeah, it's

487
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: still it's it's odd because you just had Ron Rivera

488
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Speaker 1: being fired and now Jerry if they would lose tonight

489
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Speaker 1: and then you had that long you know, it's not

490
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Speaker 1: like you're losing it on a Sunday and then the

491
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Speaker 1: following something. Yeah, so you're losing on a Thursday, and

492
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Speaker 1: then you have all of that time. And that's where

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Speaker 1: I would get a little nervous if I was Jason

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Speaker 1: Garrett if they lose tonight, because it feels like the

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Speaker 1: longer Jerry thinks about it, the worst it gets, the

496
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Speaker 1: more he wants to talk about it. And I just

497
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Speaker 1: wonder if a Thursday night loss is different than a

498
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Speaker 1: loss on Sunday. Yeah, you're right, he does have a

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Speaker 1: little bit more time, especially because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: won't be in the building this weekend. Typically after a

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00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: Thursday game, NFL players and coaches will get a Saturday

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Speaker 1: Sunday off before they're back in the building on Monday.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that if Jerry Jones is making

504
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Speaker 1: this decision in a bubble, you know, he possibly would

505
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Speaker 1: make a decision to get rid of Jason if they lose.

506
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Speaker 1: But I think he's got enough people around him that

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Speaker 1: he respects right now, especially his son Stephen Jones, that

508
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: they feel like, truly what they want to do is

509
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: give Jason Garrett this season, to give him one last

510
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Speaker 1: opportunity to prove his case that he can take this

511
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Speaker 1: team to the heights that they feel like the talent

512
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Speaker 1: should be able to take this team to and by

513
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: firing him right now, they always would have that little

514
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: thing in the back of their mind going, well, maybe

515
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Speaker 1: if we wouldn't have fired him, we could have won

516
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Speaker 1: the division and we could have gone on to run

517
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, because we've heard it. I mean, there's a

518
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Speaker 1: reason that Jerry Jones has kept Jason Garrett around for

519
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Speaker 1: ten years. He believes in this guy, even when a

520
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: lot of the Cowboys fans don't, and so he wants

521
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Speaker 1: to see what he can do finishing out the season

522
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: almost no matter what. But we hear reaction to Preddie

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00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: Kitchens wearing the Pittsburgh started a T shirt. Well, I think,

524
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Speaker 1: just like most people that looked at that, it was

525
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: a bad look in ten days, removed almost from one

526
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Speaker 1: of the ugliest on field incidents that we've seen in

527
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: recent memory in the NFL. To kind of make light

528
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Speaker 1: of a situation like that and potentially throw some fuel

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00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: on the fire to the Steelers game, I just think

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00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: it was unnecessary and as a head coach, I think

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Speaker 1: it's important for you to understand the gravity of even

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00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: the smallest details when you're in that position of responsibility.

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Speaker 1: You know, Freddie's a first time end coach. His first

534
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: time as an offensive coordinator was last season, and until

535
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: that position, he was a tight ends and a running

536
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: backs coach, and doing stuff like that hasn't really moved

537
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: the needle. But one year in that head coaching position,

538
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: I think just understanding the gravity of every little thing

539
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: that you do and every move you make is important

540
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Speaker 1: when you're a head coach. And it was just a

541
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Speaker 1: bad look. Do you remember all the quarterbacks you blocked for?

542
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: I remember their face. I don't know if how many

543
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks do you think played while you were playing with

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I think the number was like twenty

545
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: two or twenty three, depending on if you consider starters

546
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Speaker 1: or just guys that had to come in and fill

547
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Speaker 1: in and relieve everybody. Everybody. I think it was like

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Speaker 1: twenty three. My clothes, I don't know. I was just curious. No,

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Speaker 1: I can, I can find that out. Um, you remember

550
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: all your head coaches, right? I do? I remember. I

551
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: think I had six head coaches and nine offensive coordinators.

552
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: I think that I remember. That's why I remember and

553
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: they wonder why it didn't work in Cleveland, And then

554
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: you look at the stability of some of these other teams.

555
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, you look at New England and you go

556
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: twenty years, you've had a coach and a quarterback together,

557
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: and here you are having a different coach, you know,

558
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Speaker 1: almost every year, every other year. Yeah, I never had

559
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: a coach for more than two seasons. But I think

560
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: that's why you see these franchises that have stability are

561
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: so good at replacing guys looking up in New England.

562
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Obviously Brady is a big part of it in Belichick,

563
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: but when you're consistently teaching the same message, the same techniques,

564
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: the same systems from year to year, the expectations are

565
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: understood when you walk in that building, and they don't

566
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Speaker 1: really care if you're a rookie or if you're a

567
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: six year guy that they just signed up. Everybody that

568
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: is surrounding you, from the players and the coaches that

569
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Speaker 1: have done there and then what the expectations are. And

570
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: so it's easy to fall in line, and it's easy

571
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Speaker 1: to fall into that winning culture where when you're constantly

572
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: changing things, you're just trying to get people on the

573
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: same page. Almost the first year as a head coach,

574
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Speaker 1: and you're lucky to be able to teach second and

575
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: third grade concepts by the end of the season, whereas

576
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: when you're in the Patriots, you're teaching graduate level stuff

577
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: almost the entire year. Paulie, would you run down all

578
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: of Joe thomas is starting quarterbacking. I don't know, if

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Speaker 1: we have time. I got thrown a few. Derek Anderston,

580
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: Charlie Fry, Brady Quinn, Ken Dorsey, Bruce Gretkowski, Cult McCoy,

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Speaker 1: Jake delom Sannaka Wallace, Thad Lewis, Brandon Wheat and Jason Campbell,

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer, Jim Anzel, Connor Shaw, Austin Davis, Josh McCowan,

583
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Speaker 1: Robert Griffin, the Third, Cody Kesler, Deshaan Kaiser, Kevin Hogan,

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Speaker 1: who was the best quarterback he played with, the best

585
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: quarterback I played with. UM. I think Derek Anderson had

586
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Speaker 1: the best season. He was a Pro Bowler, my rookie season,

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Speaker 1: and I think he probably ended up having the best career.

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Speaker 1: I would say maybe potentially, because you know, he had

589
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Speaker 1: a few good years in releasing Carolina there, you know,

590
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Speaker 1: the one Pro Bowl year in Cleveland, UM any of

591
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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks on your Christmas card list? Oh yeah, I've

592
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: got great relationships with a lot of them. You know,

593
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: just because we didn't have great success doesn't mean I

594
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: couldn't respect them as people and players and have a

595
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: good time with them off the field. Like Brandon Whedon,

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Speaker 1: does he get a Christmas card? You know, that's a

597
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: great question. I think our wives are buddies, and so

598
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he's still on that. You know, when

599
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Speaker 1: you go to shutterfly and you just print out the

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Speaker 1: address label, saw the great to catch up. If you

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Speaker 1: have fun tonight, Joe, we appreciate your time as always. Yeah,

602
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Man. That's Joe Thomas, NFL Network analyst. Man,

603
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: you look at that list and like he was, he

604
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: was one of the few consistent things with Cleveland maybe

605
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: then the constant that was there. But you have an

606
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and you have different coaches and different quarterbacks.

607
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a recipe for disaster and leveland certainly

608
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: has mastered that recipe there. There was a story that

609
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: came out with the forty Niners have suspended their radio

610
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Speaker 1: color analyst Kim Ryan. He made comments on a Bay

611
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: Area sports talk radio show on Monday in which he

612
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the Ravens and Lamar Jackson. So

613
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: he was on K and BRS, Murphy and Mac in

614
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Speaker 1: the morning and he started talking about Lamar Jackson and

615
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Speaker 1: he said that he's really good at that fake because

616
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Speaker 1: the Niners had just played the Ravens. So he says

617
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Speaker 1: on the radio show, he's really good at the fake.

618
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: So this is the handoff, fake handoff before he keeps

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Speaker 1: the ball. But when you consider his dark skin color

620
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: with a dark football, with a dark uniform, you could

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Speaker 1: not see that thing. Ryan said. I mean you literally

622
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: could not see that when he was in and out

623
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Speaker 1: of the mesh point. And if you're a half step

624
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Speaker 1: slow on him in terms of your vision, forget about it.

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00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: He's out of the gate. He's been suspended for one game.

626
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: And and I don't sign up to you know that philosophy.

627
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: Everybody who says something that's stupid or wrong ignorant, I

628
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: should be fired. I don't know, Tim Ryan, Uh, you

629
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 1: know it's somebody who is tone deaf. If I gave

630
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Speaker 1: him that statement and said look at that statement there,

631
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: I think he would before you say it. But you

632
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: know what you get on a radio show and you

633
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Speaker 1: think you're just talking to a couple of guys and

634
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: your audience there Niner fans, and you don't you don't

635
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: realize I'm guessing in the moment what you're saying. I

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Speaker 1: hope he didn't realize in the moment what he was saying.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think you should lose his job. You know,

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Speaker 1: you suspend him. I don't know if there's a history

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Speaker 1: there of any kind of comments like this, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you suspend him. All right, he's been embarrassed, hopefully reaches

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Speaker 1: out to the Ravens and says, you know, look, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry to you know, kind of profile that way with

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and then you know it'll stay with him

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Speaker 1: the rest of his career. But okay, he said it.

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Speaker 1: It was wrong, tone, depth, stupid, ignorant, and you know

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Speaker 1: you move on with that, or at least you tried to.

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Speaker 1: But you know that was said on Monday. Yes, no,

648
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the Tim Ryan's story. But the

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Speaker 1: play fakes against the Boy Irons were hysterical. How many

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Speaker 1: times did they just tackle marketing or when he didn't

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Speaker 1: have the ball? I know, it's just I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: It's funny that just so hard to figure out. Like

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Speaker 1: he said, Lamar Jackson's gone so quickly after that, but

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Speaker 1: he's done a great job. You know this, This isn't

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Speaker 1: based off your uniform or that it was rainy and

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Speaker 1: the football was darker and your skin color, and that's

657
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Speaker 1: why they couldn't stop him. Like I think as I

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00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: heard it, I thought that Tim Ryan was saying, this

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Speaker 1: is why we had such a problem with him, and

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Speaker 1: he's giving you reasons why the Niners couldn't stop Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Understanding in the moment what those reasons are. We're not appropriate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a club I think that is. Again, this has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with right, But that's an interesting skill,

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Speaker 1: the ability, Like the great quarterbacks are so good at

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Speaker 1: can't even tell on. You can see the defense get

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Speaker 1: fulled all the time. Boomers. Scienson might might have been

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Speaker 1: Rodgers wonderful at that as well. But with Lamar, I

671
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Speaker 1: would hit Lamar every single time if I could, I

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Speaker 1: would just say to my defense, you know what, we'll

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Speaker 1: take our chances stopping mark Ingram. Make sure you hit

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Make sure that he knows that you're hitting him,

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Speaker 1: no matter what, if he has the ball or not,

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Speaker 1: because if he is a runner, I can hit you,

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 1: and it's clearly in a running position there. I would

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Speaker 1: hit you whether you have the ball or not. On

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Speaker 1: the club. Yeah, but mark Ingram will get you for

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00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: eight yards if you don't focus on him, though he will.

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00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: Lamar will get you for thirty. Yeah, so I need

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Speaker 1: to take my I'm more concerned about Lamar than I

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Speaker 1: am mark Ingram. How much of a difference are they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a love mark Ingram last year. It feels

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Speaker 1: like that was a bit of a Dame chaser. It

686
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Speaker 1: and it made him really, really tough to stop. And

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Speaker 1: that's what you have now. You know you have two

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Speaker 1: running backs there with Lamar and with mark Ingram, and

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Speaker 1: looking at the Peloton commercial again. Peloton stock has gone down.

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Speaker 1: I think a ten percent. Does that sound right? Mclemn?

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Speaker 1: Somebody had the number. It's huge, Yeah, total dollars ridiculous, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like a lot. But this poor woman who gets on

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Speaker 1: the Peloton bike, that she gets a Peloton bike for

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Speaker 1: Christmas from her husband, and she looks like she's being

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Speaker 1: held captive. She's in terror, and she's in unbelievable shape

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Speaker 1: to begin with. But if you're Peloton, see all they

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Speaker 1: needed to do was if Peloton had this woman when

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Speaker 1: she opens her eyes on Christmas morning and she says,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I wanted. Nobody has a problem with this.

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Speaker 1: Now you might with some of the looks that she

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Speaker 1: gives you their facial expressions, but you could have bypassed

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Speaker 1: this controversy. This is the assumption. Is husband says, hey,

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Speaker 1: I got your bike so you can get in shape.

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Speaker 1: Now I would have could you do Christmas twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: in the household? He walks in with her hands over

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Speaker 1: his eyes and then he's got a gut, And then

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Speaker 1: she takes her hands away from his eyes and then says, here,

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Speaker 1: get on that bike and rhyme have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of fun with it. Get the same people in there,

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Speaker 1: and by the way she looks like Emily Rossum from

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Speaker 1: a shameless actress, but she looks like she's being held captive.

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Speaker 1: She looks panicked. And it's a great product. And you

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Speaker 1: know we were discussing this, Oh you're getting some great publicity.

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Speaker 1: I go, not all publicities great publicity. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is one of those where it bounces back,

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Speaker 1: you know, after a little while. But if all she

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Speaker 1: had to do is say this is what I wanted

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Speaker 1: for Christmas, that it changes everything now, I would have

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Speaker 1: said it. Why didn't you look like you're enjoying this,

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Speaker 1: like that's what I want? And look at me. I'm writing. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: you know he's on the couch probably you know, got

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Speaker 1: being dimp on his sweater, got beer. Yeah, that that commercial,

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Speaker 1: that's that's haunted me. Yeah, Paul, I still think. You know,

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Speaker 1: those companies like four Hymns and get Roman that do

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Speaker 1: male enhancement products, hire the same two actors. And she

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Speaker 1: gives him a box for Christmas square, Honey, here's a

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Speaker 1: little something for you, and it's hire the same two actors,

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Speaker 1: pay a lot of money to be up for Hymns

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Speaker 1: commercial and maybe make his name ed for ed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think we're on to it. Peloton, we

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Speaker 1: got you covered here. By the way, thank you for

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Speaker 1: this Greening appreciate Between green Day and Peloton. We're yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for somebody from Peloton to tell me to

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Speaker 1: stay in my lane. Andrew and Florida joins us. Now, Hi, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Hey? Dan Um,

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Speaker 1: second time? Color just call them the same. I mean,

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00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: this is just like a marketing gold nugget. I mean,

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00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: you guys been talking about this all week. I think

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Speaker 1: it's hilarious. But uh yeah, I mean they nailed it.

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Speaker 1: Oh you think that they this is what they wanted

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Speaker 1: to accomplish. Yeah, I mean it's getting so much felicity.

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Speaker 1: It's so much attention. I mean it's it's hilarious. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well nailed it. Why did the stock go down? Then? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Mission accomplished. Yeah, because if you said the

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Speaker 1: stock was skyrocketing, then I would go Okay. Then then

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Speaker 1: they go what they wanted? Oh oh that little thing

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Speaker 1: right as the person who came up with this commercial,

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Speaker 1: are they fired or promoted? Which of the two? I

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Speaker 1: just want to know what that strategy meeting is like now,

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Speaker 1: because I would get that commercial out right now, because

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Speaker 1: you know that those people thought when they watched the

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Speaker 1: final adversion of it, they were like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: this is just an absolute grand slam. This is perfect.

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Speaker 1: But but somebody above them had to go, yep, love it. Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 1: all people are gonna love Christmas morning and oh that's

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Speaker 1: so emotional. And husband got her a bike, And you

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Speaker 1: know I would have the only thing I would have

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Speaker 1: said if I was watching it is how about you

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Speaker 1: look like you're enjoying yourself on the bike and instead

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Speaker 1: of those eyes that's like hunting. Yeah, any chance though

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Speaker 1: that this actress nailed the role because her job. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure the director said, act like you're completely nervous about

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Speaker 1: getting out a stationary bicycle, and she crushed the role.

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Speaker 1: But she did. She crushed it. But who is nervous

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Speaker 1: getting on a stationary Bikeyle The actress was told, hey,

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Speaker 1: act like, look at that. Look at that face sell

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Speaker 1: trepidation of a stationary bike. I could almost see a

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Speaker 1: tear coming down her cheek. If I could just get

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Speaker 1: a second, we also ride this thing through the window.

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Speaker 1: Enough the freedom now, damn it, it's only got one wheel.

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Speaker 1: On it. If it had two, I could ride away

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Speaker 1: from this guy. Tell a ton thank you, Yeah, thank you?

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