1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: the common threads that bind them all. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: So what's happening in women's basketball right now is what 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: we've been trying to. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: Get to for almost thirty years. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: From the stadiums where athletes break barriers and set records, 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Kamen Quark broke the all time single game assists record. 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: This is crazy for rookies to be doing. 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: To the polls where history is written, and now we 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: have Kamala Harrison. It feels more like women are sort 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: of taking what they've always deserved, as opposed to waiting 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: on somebody to give them what they've deserved. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Our discussions will uncover the vital connections between these realms 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: and the community we create. In each episode, we'll sit 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: down with athletes, political analysts, and culture critics, because at 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: the core of it all, how we see one issue 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: shines the light on all others. Welcome to Naked Sports. 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm your Home Carry Champion. 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: My name is Roy viod Jr. I am a father 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: and a comedian and a television host and soon's the author. 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: I guess I'm an actor now too. Love Brooklyn. I've 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: been an actor, but now I'm an actor. Yeah, that's it. 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: That's what's the different between an actor and mactur indoors. 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: When you're in the scene trauma. I was looking around 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: with John Hanton and that was a good time. But 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: now I'm with Andre Holland in. 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Nicole Bahari, Hi, family, how are you? Thanks for listening 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: to the podcast this week. Roy Wood Junior the comedian. 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: You may remember him from The Daily Show. He just 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: had an amazing special that was released on Hulu called 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Lonely Flowers, which we'll talk about. If you have not 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: watched it, please do. Everybody needs something to watch. Lonely 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Flowers is really great. It's up on Hulu. Funny, make 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: you laugh, make you think, all the things that we 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: need in today's society. But before we get into how 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I convinced him to be on the podcast, I just 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: want to check in. How are we feeling, How is 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: our mind? How is our spirit? Are we doing okay? Here? 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: It is February. I am recording this around twelve thirty 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: in the morning. It is February seventh. Tomorrow I am 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: heading to New Orleans, so by the time you hear this, 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I have already been in New Orleans at the super 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Bowl or Nolins as you call it, at the super Bowl, 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: and I finished off my packing. I'm a horrible packer. Yeah, 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't need to know that, but I am a 47 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: horrible packer. I always get to wear and forget everything 48 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: and then need to go to the store and get 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: essentials that I should have packed. That's just me. I 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: don't care. That's what I do. But I finished my 51 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: packing and I just got off of work not too 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: long ago, and I did CNN in the morning where 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: we talked about a preview for the Super Bowl over 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: under of whether or not Taylor Swift would ever interact 55 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump because he is the first sitting president 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: to attend a Super Bowl. Taylor Swift will be there 57 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: because you know, her boyfriend plays for the Kansas City Chiefs. 58 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: His name is Travis Kelsey. I'm sure you know that 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: as well. He's now just Taylor Swift's boyfriend. He ain't 60 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: got a name. That's awful, Oh that's awful. But Travis Kelsey, 61 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: one of the great tight ends of our time, will 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: be playing. And he was asked, Hey, what do you 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: think about the president coming? And he was like, well, 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: I think it'll be cool that any president is coming. 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: It's just very uncomfortable. The conversation was just so irregular 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: and awkward. His exact words, I'm just happy if any 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: president comes. 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: Well, it's a great honor, I think, you know, no 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: matter who the president is. I know, I'm excited because 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: it's the biggest game of my life, you know, and 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: they're having a president there. You know, it's the best 72 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: country in the world. 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, when Jalen Hursts was asked, he said, cool, ma'am, 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: something to that effect, can you play that for me? 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: Jail question. 76 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: Number institute. 77 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: So two different responses, but both have the same theme, 78 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: which is, I don't say none about that. Man. I 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: don't want to get into it. We have had a 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: crazy January. It's been an insane three weeks. We do 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: not want to be bothered. We're just going to keep 82 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: it neutral. So with that being said, I'm really interested 83 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: in what his presence means at this Super Bowl. Not 84 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: only is it historic in the sense that he is 85 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: the first sitting president, but sports is normally one of 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: these environments where you are able to put away your 87 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: political beliefs and ideologies and just have a good time. 88 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: Remember y'all used to always be like, just stick to 89 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: sports whenever we tried to go political. Remember those times. 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: And as I've pointed out, and that's what we do 91 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: on this podcast every week. Sports policy, politics, culture always intersect. 92 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: And Super Bowl weekend we're gonna see all that. We're 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: gonna see Donald Trump, maybe interact with Taylor Swift, Doctor 94 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: Joe Biden will be there, the former First Lady, Kendrick 95 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Lamar is performing culture. I'm talking culture, and Kendrick Lamar's 96 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: performance to me will be about storytelling, as he's mentioned 97 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: to all of us. But here we are in New 98 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: Orleans and one of the greatest to ever do it, 99 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about Tunci, Tounci touchee. I don't know 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: how to do it, Touci Lil Wayne, who is a friend. 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: I think he's great. Lil Wayne is not performing in 102 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: his home city during the Super Bowl, at least not 103 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: to our knowledge. Could you imagine if Kendrick brought him 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: up over under on Kendrick Lamar bringing up Lil Wayne, Well, 105 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that Little Wayne will 106 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: come out because you know, Lil Wayne is loyal to 107 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: dre and herein lies our culture. Rub Will Kendrick Lamar 108 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: perform not like us? I think he will. I think 109 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: the big issue is whether or not for Drake, which 110 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: I heard he was trying to stop him from performing 111 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: that particular song because he calls Drake a pedophile and 112 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: said song. I think that doesn't even matter anymore. As 113 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: we saw at the Grammys, Kendricks don't have to say anything. 114 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Everyone knows this song verbatim by heart. We saw Beyonce 115 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: clapping and bouncing. She'll never move. I interviews Serena not 116 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: too long ago. She was like, that's my jam. Drake 117 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: has to be sick. So here we are at the 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: super Bowl, with all of these storylines. Will Kendrick Lamar 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: perform not like us? I think he will. Will he 120 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: be gracious enough to let little Wan come out? I 121 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: don't think so. Will Drake lose his mind? I think so? 122 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: Will Donald Trump interact with Taylor Swift or Travis Kelce? 123 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: And is in fact the Eagles win the Super Bowl? 124 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Here are the main storylines. If 125 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles win the Super Bowl, y'all, I'm gonna be happy. 126 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm ruth for the Eagles I'm gonna let you know, 127 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm Jalen hurts all day every day. But if the 128 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: Eagles win the Super Bowl, it is going to be special. 129 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Will your president say something positive? Let's hope. So he's 130 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: already said he's rooting for Patrick Mahomes. We all know 131 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: that his wife is very vocal and proud about how 132 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: she is a Trump supporter. But if in fact, Patrick 133 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Mahomes does not win and Jalen wins, does your president 134 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: say something positive? I hope. So, However, if Patrick Mahomes win, 135 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: more storylines three Pete never done before, he will be 136 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: certified goat. And I'm not hating. Both of these quarterbacks 137 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: are amazing and special. Their stories are amazing and special. 138 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: They both belong where they are this Sunday, giving us 139 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: to entertainment that we love. My my mind, there are 140 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: so many things that can happen in terms of will 141 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: it happen? And then what is the reaction? 142 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: I do not know. 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: It is juicy, but this is the perfect weekend when 144 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: sports culture and politics intersect. Sports culture and politics. Say 145 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: what you want. I do not want to hear anybody 146 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: tell me that they are separate, siloed, don't go together. 147 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: They absolutely go together like peanut butter and jelly, like 148 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: Jack and Jill like a press and comb in Greece, 149 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: like a banana in a split. No, I don't think 150 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: so anyway, you get what I'm saying. Now, on to 151 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. While I told you that Roywood Junior, comedian 152 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: Roywood Junior, would be on the podcast today, the story 153 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: behind him coming on is that when I had an 154 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: opportunity to bump into him a few weeks back, actually, 155 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: the day in which his Hulu special released, he was 156 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: on a panel with me on CNN and we had 157 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: a good time and we kei keid and we laughed 158 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: and we caught up, and I thought to myself, one 159 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: great human. Two, easy to be around, joyful. Three he's 160 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: onto something with lonely Flowers. If you've seen it, you 161 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: know what I mean. All of us are very siloed, 162 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: and I think it's just the world that we live in. 163 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to blame everything on social media, but 164 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: sometimes you're just like, ugh, everyone's so crazy. Let me 165 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: stay in the house, or it's scary to go out 166 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: and interact with people because social media has made it 167 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: hard for us to do so in a real normal 168 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: way and be present with human beings and be vulnerable 169 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: so they can see and talk to us. But there 170 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: are so many ways to talk about it. And as 171 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, we're were Junior was on The Daily Show 172 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: and he had two for many years. Take very you know, 173 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: unfortunate stories and find the humor or the sarcasm or 174 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: the irony and make it a teachable moment or something 175 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: that we could actually digest. Palpable was stored, I was 176 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: trying to say, and so on the podcast today we 177 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: get into it. We pick up from where from Friday, 178 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: January seventeenth. That was the day in which we worked together, 179 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: and that was the day in which the Hulu special 180 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: was released. But that's where we pick up. The day 181 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: of January seventeenth, and as you will know, the world 182 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: had yet to have the inauguration of our president and 183 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to Roy about a special, but 184 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: I also wanted to talk to him about politics. I 185 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: wanted to get his opinion. And I know you guys 186 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: are going to think this is crazy. You all may 187 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: say I'm crazy for saying this, but for me, I 188 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: think comedians are some of the smartest people in the world. 189 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Sit back, relax, and enjoy this edition of Naked Sports Friday, 190 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: January seventeenth. He also works at CNN, and we were 191 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: on Abby's show together and he walked in and he 192 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: had so much wonderful energy, and he's always so generous 193 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: and kind to me. So I appreciate you. I'll automatically 194 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: like you for that, because you're just always the same. 195 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: You're even I know what to get. But you were celebrating, 196 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: and I thought that was really I thought that was 197 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: really a good way to show how hard you work. 198 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm celebrating, I'm coming, I'm doing press, but 199 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm still working. But I'm gonna sell. I'm squeezing a 200 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: little bit of a celebration. 201 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Friday night belongs to me. 202 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: How do it feel? 203 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: I felt odd. I generally don't allow myself to sit 204 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: in any emotions really good are bad. I just generally 205 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: just push, push, push. But for this special I was like, 206 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna go have a steak. 207 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's not you know, if someone hurt that 208 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: celebration maybe Like that sounds very very simple, very very understated, 209 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,239 Speaker 1: but just satisfying. 210 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: Also, the people who know me know that I generally 211 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: don't sit still. But like the general celebratory activities, I'll 212 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: play PlayStation, which is what I generally might do two 213 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: times a year, maybe three. I bought all the games 214 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: and just never just don't get to play them, so 215 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: I might do that as a kickback. Sometimes just being 216 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: home and doing nothing, like just literally I'm so busy 217 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: sometimes that nothing is the activity I love. It is 218 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: the only thing I don't get to do. Their original 219 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: plan because Hulu asked me, They said, well, do you 220 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: do a premiere party and somewhere in New Young Friday 221 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: night and step and repeat. I can't think of enough 222 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: people that I would want to be around to justify 223 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: the cost of the venue and the DJ and the food. 224 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: But you weren't paying for it, don't matter. 225 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: I don't want to be there. 226 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: If I because you couldn't think of enough people. You 227 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: didn't know enough people that you wanted to have at 228 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: a party. 229 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: That room would be filled with people that I either 230 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: have shallow relationships with, and that's not a bad thing, 231 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: but on this particular night I don't want to be around. 232 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: There would be far less deep people. Yeah space, So 233 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: I just I just declined. I mean, they were very 234 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 3: kind of by a wish. You had to give me 235 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 3: the budget for. 236 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, you give me that that you put that 237 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: in the next contract. Give me that budget. Give me 238 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: that budget for the stage and a wardrobe and all 239 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: the things that you want. 240 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: The other option, I was going to go to my 241 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: mom's house. I was going to do a premiere party 242 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: at my mom's house and have to step and repeat, 243 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: like just really be like violate the home owners Association night. 244 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: But the logistics of getting down in my mom, my friends, 245 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: all my buddies from house school, that but that would 246 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: have been worth it. But the logistics on both sides 247 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: of that day just didn't lend itself to my ultimate celebration. 248 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: If I could do it, I want to do it. 249 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: I want to. I want to. I want to go 250 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: to Joe's crap shot and I want to rent out 251 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: the whole place, sit there and silence and eat stuffrom 252 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: mushrooms and make them turn off the music. 253 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: Most importantly, why. 254 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: It's the best food, the worst atmosphere. 255 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so that you want to runt it, Okay. 256 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 3: I want to have so much money that I can 257 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: go in a place and go turn. 258 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: The music off and say everybody, get out and just 259 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: feed me because the atmosphere is tired. 260 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: I didn't even know that was the thing until I 261 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: ran in the Rod Stewart in London. I was shopping 262 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: with my mom and an associate came up and they 263 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: were like, we need everyone to leave the floor. 264 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have a shopper, Yeah, shopping. 265 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: Just shoot me out, like like my couple dollars. 266 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: It didn't matter. Your five dollars, don't matter. His his 267 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: one hundred million. That's what they were trying to tell. 268 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: You, and that's what I want. But they just crap. 269 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, we can do that, which leads 270 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: me every one of these celebrations sounds very you know, 271 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: very particular, a little isolated, which leads me to the 272 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: special low Flowers. Why why that title? 273 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: I want to take the train rap by myself. Two windows, 274 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: three four days South America Joints. There's one in Canada 275 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: like where you never get. 276 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: I know exactly about. They had one in Switzerland too. 277 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: That's the one I want to do. I know exactly Okay, 278 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: just like that. That's the other ultimate celebration. 279 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: I tied up especially Lonely Flowers because I feel like 280 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: that's who we are as people now like everybody's alone, 281 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: everybody's isolated. It's easier to be alone, and then some 282 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: of us are with people and still alone because you're 283 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: with the wrong person. So it was just an exploration 284 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: into how we became disconnected. And then the back half 285 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: of the special it's just proposing solutions, possible solutions. You know. 286 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: I just as I started putting the act together last year, 287 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: well this kind of I left Daily Show end of 288 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: twenty three and I worked this set for most of 289 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: twenty four and the more I started looking at the material, 290 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: the more it just all started falling under one thing, 291 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: and just I disrespect wherever my mind is going. That's well, 292 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: this is clearly what I'm into. Whether I and I 293 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: didn't set out with the theme of loneliness and then 294 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: write jokes to it, it just revealed itself as I 295 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: worked through my set without the month, and I just 296 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: took out all the political material I had, Kamala campaign 297 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: jokes and all of that, but that none of that 298 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: fit with the larger thing. And also it was good 299 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: to not get into politics, and so I did that 300 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: for three straight. 301 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Specially, why was it good not to get into politics? 302 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Why do you think, Okay, wait, time out. I have 303 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: so many questions. I'm gonna go with lonely flowers first. 304 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: I do agree with you. I do think we're all 305 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: very lonely people, Like I say to myself, I was like, 306 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't feel really lonely, but there's also some peace 307 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: in that for me. And I'm around a lot of people, 308 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm all like, oh no, I'm gonna go back to 309 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: being at my house by myself. So how do you 310 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: in your special reconcile or talk about that? Because there 311 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: is some there is some happiness solitude. 312 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: There's happiness in solitude, but in the long term, is 313 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: it negative or not positive? And I think even if 314 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 3: you have people, I think a lot of people are 315 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: lonely intentionally Yeah okay, So then how long is that sustainable? 316 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: How healthy is that? And it doesn't mean that you 317 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: go out and have fifty friends. But you know, like 318 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: in the back of the special, I talk about how, 319 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: you know, my mom continues to make friends and that's 320 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: part of what keeps her. That's so good, Like that's 321 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: a thing where how does your mother she's seventy. 322 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: Five and she makes new friends. 323 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: That's great because it's this is fucked up to say, 324 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: but at seventy five, some of your friends are going 325 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: to mynd have God, yeah, the friends had already been sure. 326 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: The reality is they die in different ways, like they 327 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: literally could be dead, but then sometimes they fall. 328 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: Off as well off. People change, and so what are 329 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: you supposed to do? Just never deal with new people. 330 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: I think the mistake we made, and I talk about 331 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: this in the special, is that we try how to 332 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: create these deeper bonds with new friends. That's not possible, possible. 333 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: You're comparing the new friendship to the old one, and 334 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: you almost in a way, you kind of got an alacrc. 335 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: People just a little bit sure, which sounds shallow. Why 336 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: but everything I just I don't know. I just think 337 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: that most everything in this life is transactional. And we 338 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: view that word transactional as insensitive or despondent and detached. 339 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: But you shouldn't be doing anything that's not reciprocating. 340 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: What do you mean transactional? I meet a new friend. 341 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: I just moved to New York. I meet a new girlfriend. 342 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with her, and I like her. She's 343 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: not like my best friends in LA. She's not like 344 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: my home. The people that I've known all of my life, 345 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: but I like hanging out with her and I'm lonely. 346 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody, so i'ma hanging out with her, 347 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or is that transactional? No, 348 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: it's providing friendship. It might feel transactional. 349 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: But the only reason you like hanging with her is 350 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: because she's not nagging you or talking down, nothing fun 351 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: of you or something like that. So there's something good 352 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: in that. And I'm gonna imagine that you'd being a 353 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: good person what reciprocate and ask them about their day 354 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: and what things that they give a damn about. And 355 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: you wouldn't always pick the place to eat, let them 356 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: pick the So those things are You're like, I say, transactional, 357 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 3: but people go to therapy, say pour into. 358 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Then pour into you. We're pouring into each other. 359 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: Yes, transaction. 360 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: Do you find well? 361 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: Okay, and I go to therapy. 362 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: I was about to say, I was gonna say, you're like, 363 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: and don't do this therapy because it doesn't work. Okay, 364 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: You're like, don't do that. 365 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm just saying therapy and of on. 366 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Seal, Yes, you have to go all the time therapy, 367 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm gonna give you this, I'm 368 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna get you off for free. I know why don't 369 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: they do that because they I've never had a therapist 370 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: offer me any kind. 371 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 3: Of discred Then why is that we have a therapist 372 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: and that's them? 373 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: That's crazy. I've had a therapist on they're so rude. Okay, Anyway, 374 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: I digress. Are you do you think you're lonely? No? 375 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: I think that I figured out ways on managing relationships 376 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: and understanding how to interact with people that give me that. 377 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: What I had to be was more intentional about connection because, 378 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: like you said, and I agree with you, it's easy 379 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: just to stay at the house. It's a million in 380 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 3: one tweets about people celebrating when the plans cancel and 381 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: you didn't really want to go. When they call right before, 382 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: you're like, oh okay, and you'd be happy. You don't 383 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: like answering the phone. That wasn't always us as a people. 384 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: We don't like to we we to your point in 385 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: your special someone calls me mad, what is the phone for? 386 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: So? Why how did we get to that place? So 387 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: to me, it was just about it blowing that I 388 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: don't think I'm lonely. In that sense of I don't 389 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: have connections, but I do want to make sure that 390 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: some of the connections I have they're genuine and real, 391 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: and so you know. I think that's why we value 392 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: old friends so much, is because we have roots. But 393 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: I think that makes us more prone to putting up 394 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: from people. Yeah, for sure, because well this is from 395 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: the old It's. 396 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: So for sure. But I don't I don't think. I 397 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: don't think that's true. I think I think most people 398 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: are lonely if they admit it. Whether you could have 399 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: thirty forty people around you, you could have a house full 400 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: of kids, you could be married with kids, you still 401 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: feel what I when I think of lonely flowers, And 402 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: what I sense is this this lack of being present. 403 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: If I'm here with you and I'm not present, I'm 404 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: still I'm somewhere else, it still feel so lonely. I 405 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: still feel disconnected, I still feel separated. I could be 406 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: having a great time, but I just still feel separated, 407 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: like because I'm not present. And I think that has 408 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: everything to do with all the things that are out 409 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: of disposal. We're eighty d We're on our phone, We're 410 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: picking up our phone and giving out orders to social 411 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: media people. I need you to take the care ofusel 412 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: and slide three to four. Ye, and you're not even 413 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: talking to the You're just like, okay, i'll talk to 414 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: you later see the post when it happens goodbye. Not 415 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: you per se. But in general, that's what we do. 416 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: So I think that is the reason why so many 417 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: of us are lonely. Yes, we do like saying at home, 418 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: but I do think that we have too many things 419 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: at our disposal to occupy your time and make us 420 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: and make us numb to what's going on in. 421 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: The world, and it can easily make you less connected. 422 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: You know. Say what you want about video gamers, but 423 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: I think they're some of the most connected people because 424 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: they're on a stream and talking to each other. Really, 425 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: I mean, they're the one lad. Yeah, like the idea 426 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: of just talking to another person. That's essentially young people's 427 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: talking on the phone, put on a headset, yapping with 428 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: some dude on the other side of the country. Why 429 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: you bounce around a video game doing what you do 430 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: while we're sitting around playing candy Do people still play 431 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: candy Crush? 432 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't Yeah, no, no, no, we're 433 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: just asking gen x. No, I don't know nothing about it. 434 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: I don't know angry birds. 435 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about nothing. I don't know what 436 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: you're saying. 437 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: We'll just keep naming old ass. 438 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: What wordle? No wortle? I don't even know what that is. Okay, 439 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: So you've been on I don't know what you're saying. 440 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: You've been on a press tour and you said you're 441 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: happy not to talk about politics. Are you really truly 442 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: happy not to talk about politics after so long? Yeah? 443 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that's the new? And I know you've 444 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: been asked this question. Do you think that is because 445 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: of this current administration in the way in which people 446 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: have gone after him they're afraid of what he's going 447 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: to do? Or you just like it's a new we 448 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: gotta frame the way we do comedy now. 449 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a reset on the 450 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: approach to how we criticize people in power. So why 451 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: because it's not landed with nobody. Y'all had eight years 452 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: to call this man stupid and think that that's gonna 453 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: be the thing. Well, I wasn't going to vote for him, 454 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: but then I saw the Jimmy Kimmel and the roy 455 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: Wood Junior Comedy, and I was like, Okay, maybe that's 456 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: not working. So if you're talking about truth to power, 457 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: we got that challenge. Yes, then how do you figure 458 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: out a way to what's the language? Yeah, because everybody's 459 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: been rewired. The way we receive information has been rewired. 460 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: Micro Bigley has a beautiful quote for the Ages. Comedy 461 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: only works when everybody agrees on the premise. So if 462 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: I say the administration is bad, but you think the 463 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: administration is good, it doesn't matter what the rest of 464 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: the joke is. You don't agree with my assessment. So 465 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you can't go down that road comedically. 466 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying I'm trying to figure out a way to rewire. 467 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: And I enjoyed the year away from the Daily Show, 468 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: and I wouldn't have been able to even think and 469 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 3: explore loneliness. That being a corresponding is hard. You have 470 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: to you spend every day watching them work, yeah, and 471 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: then figuring out how to make it funny. And ninety 472 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: percent of that doesn't even make it to the show. 473 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: So you just watched that show all day. What does 474 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: that do to you your soul? So let me do 475 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: a special that's just about us collectively as a society. 476 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: Don't even worry about the people, don't worry about none 477 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 3: of the policies. Let's just talk about what we are 478 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: dealing with right now. And then CNN becomes the place 479 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 3: where on Saturday nights on CNN, I can crack a 480 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: joker too. And honestly, that show is beautiful because we're 481 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: just submating the news week, We digging get it like 482 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: and still. 483 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: This all happened and we're gonna make a joke about it. 484 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: And I just gary, I just hope that people don't 485 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: viute it is me not caring or me not with 486 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: me checking out. It's just that you do that. For 487 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: eight or nine years at Comedy Central, you got to 488 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: figure out an okay, well what else? 489 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: You had a reset, you got a rebrand, you got 490 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: to figure out other It's not not even a rebrand. 491 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: It's just like other elements of who you are and 492 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: what you're capable of doing. 493 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: This is there has to be It's like football, there 494 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: has to be a halftime adjustment. 495 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to make some adjustments. Life is that. 496 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 3: See what you can do in the second hand, This 497 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: is the second half of Trump, if you want to 498 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 3: think about it like that. 499 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: So the approach is to how we Oh, that's good, 500 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: that's a good point. It's a football game, and this 501 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: is the second half of Trump, right. We had, we 502 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: had our little halftime break, and now we're back in it. 503 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: Joe Biden came out, little marching band, little take taking me. 504 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: And they just and they just I don't know if 505 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: you saw that with the kid take off. They just 506 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: introduced another amendment to see if a president can have 507 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: a third term. That's why I said it's not gonna 508 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: be four years. Y'all be ready for it. 509 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: Trump is gonna die in office. 510 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: It's Roy Wood Junior on Naked Sports. We'll be right 511 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: back in just a few moments. Hey, everybody, welcome back 512 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: to Naked Sports. Appreciate y'all still being here with us 513 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: as well as Roy Wood Junior. So fresh off of 514 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: his special, his Hulu special, he has shared with us 515 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: that he's in a new season of his life, leaving 516 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: the Daily Show, creating and also flexing other talented muscles 517 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: that he may have, and also he's observing his career 518 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: and politics in a new way. To me that is 519 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: very interesting. So we pick up at how he plans 520 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: to approach politics as a comedian, but more specifically President 521 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. A real issue for all of us that 522 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: I'm talking about myself in these public facing roles. What 523 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: is the premise? The premise isn't he stupid? Because he won? 524 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: So what's the premise because he's not. 525 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: That's the part that still remains to be seen, and 526 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: people have to explore that. That requires hosts that are creative. 527 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: That requires writers and producers that are willing to risk 528 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 3: their jobs low key to do something different, because if 529 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: you do something different and it doesn't get ratings, then 530 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: you're so you can be screwed a number of different ways. 531 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: And I think that is where political satire eventually is 532 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: going to have to have a reckoning and a long 533 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: look in the mirror at how we've approached politics and 534 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 3: criticizing politics over the last decade. 535 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: I feel like the same thing for journalists. I feel 536 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: like your sister, because you live in both worlds. I 537 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: feel like we have to figure out a new way 538 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: to talk about him so that it lands and that 539 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: it makes sense. But I'm also very afraid of the 540 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: fact that everyone will filter themselves and be afraid to 541 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: tell the truth, Like I see that you can't tell me. 542 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: For instance, with Elon Musk, you can't tell me that 543 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: wasn't a Hitler symbol that he did, salute that he did, 544 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: but you're telling me it's not. And so what do 545 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: I do as a journalist? I was like, if you 546 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: see something, say something, that's what they tell you, right, 547 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: And as a comedian, do you ignore that? Do do 548 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: you make a joke about that? Do you say it 549 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: doesn't land? So we have to not have My point 550 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: is I don't want us to be in the worlds 551 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: that we live in. I don't want us to be silent. 552 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be I'm going to kill everybody. 553 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: I just don't want us to be silent about what's 554 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: off danger. 555 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: The danger in adjusting the approach is that you run 556 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: the risk of normalizing the things. 557 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: And that's what we're doing. 558 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: That's a slick. That's the difficult part of it, and 559 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how we navigate that because it's gonna 560 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: be a war. The first journalist that the first April 561 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: Ryan in that press briefing, whenever they do their first 562 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: their first first press brief and somebody jump back at 563 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: Trump they're gonna be gone. 564 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: They won't let them back here. 565 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: Okay, So now, if you're that news outlet and you 566 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: need access, you need a reporter in a press pool. 567 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: The next reporter who goes in, you're gonna tell them 568 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: to jump bad. No, you're gonna tell them to ask 569 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: them softball questions. So then it requires an editor and 570 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: ahead of these news organizations to keep sending in the 571 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: next soldier to go in and get their head chopped off. 572 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: We've already and we should and everyone should be prepared 573 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: for that while they while they're cutting people, they should 574 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: be adding people. When I tell you, what did Kanye 575 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: West say about Jewish people? They own everything? You do 576 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: you remember what happened when he did that? They took 577 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: all his money right then they start freezing his accounts. 578 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: Everything was like it severely intentional with him, right because 579 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: of the way he was approaching Jewish people. Do you 580 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: remember that? I remember that. 581 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: I remember Kanye having all the money and then didn't have. 582 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: And he was trying to get and then he like 583 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: he got quiet, he was getting his money back. What 584 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: happened to Elon when he did that? Did you hear 585 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: from anyone saying that was inappropriate. 586 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you're saying. 587 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: We've all pretty normalized it. ADL came out and said, 588 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: don't jump to conclusions. What conclusion? 589 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: How much? 590 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: What I'm encouraging you to do. Even though you said 591 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: you're taking a break from political commentary in terms of 592 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: what you do, I'm still encouraging you to because you're 593 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: smart enough, You're really smart. I was just I'm encouraging 594 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: you to not give it up completely because we still 595 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: need you. 596 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm not abandoning any of that. I'm trying to figure 597 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: out what is the approach that has a level of 598 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: efficacy that makes it worth the trouble and the hurdles 599 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: of it. 600 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: Because we're all trying to figure that out and. 601 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: The issue and so if you do something different and 602 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: it doesn't connect and there's low ratings, this media is 603 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: still a capitalistic structure organization. Sure, so you need ratings, 604 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: you need profit, you need a brand, so you need eyeballs. 605 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: And so if you get cut out, like if you 606 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: take the ADL for instance, if the ADL comes out 607 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: and says, and this is just extreme scenario, ad L 608 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: comes out and says, Trump's dude, is we we denounce 609 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: Elon and Elon, we hate you Elon, and then Trump 610 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: goes I bet law law, law, law, think, think things 611 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: that adversely affects the ADL and keeps them from doing 612 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: their overall greater mission. Right did the ADL gain or 613 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: lose by criticizing Elon when we look at what they're 614 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: trying to do in totality as an organization in terms 615 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: of helping people. 616 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to criticize them though. 617 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 3: Okay, but you're still putting yourself in the crosshairs of 618 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: a vindictive administration for the next four years for the 619 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: sake of saying what's right. You lose the opportunity potentially 620 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: to do what it's wrong. 621 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: It's not the next four years though, okay. 622 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: So then then you should say something now, I mean, 623 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: you should say something else. 624 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't have the answers. What I am saying is 625 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: that the blueprint has been there. Our ancestors did far 626 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: more with far less. And what I mean by that 627 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: is that they were far more organized. They knew how 628 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: to make sure if in fact they were going to boycott, 629 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: they had the endurance for what it would take and 630 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: how long it would take, and they made extreme sacrifices, 631 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: extreame sacrifices. This is not just four years and we're 632 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: so comfortable and don't nobody want a sacrifice. 633 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: I think the difference between our ancestors and US is 634 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: that there was more collective struggle, so there was more cohesion. 635 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: Correct, and there's about to be more correct correct. Say 636 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: that again. I don't mean to cut you out say that. 637 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's right. I think that. I think 638 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: the difference between our ancestors and US is that our 639 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 3: ancestors had more collective oppression to deal with because they 640 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: weren't all in different tears Fiscally, not every black person 641 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: feels the same, and maybe they didn't feel that way 642 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 3: back then, but there was still a degree of eye 643 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 3: Well I don't agree. I'm more of a Malcolm guy. 644 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: But if this, if this Martin dude, say we're gonna know, 645 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: let's try it. Whereas now you can have anti black 646 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: black protesters, Like if you showed up to a protest, 647 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: it might be people on the other side of the 648 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: protest that are also black. 649 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: So I agree with you. Because they were trying to 650 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: change laws. They that's exactly what they had a goal. 651 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: They had a central focus goal. But there are things 652 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: that we universally are majority in the terms of majority, 653 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: agree on that need to be changed. 654 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: Okay, right, yeah, I agree with that. 655 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: Like we were just in here joking around, the I 656 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: is gone. I can call you silly, I can use 657 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: the R word. Now, it's not even our word. You 658 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: could just say it straight out. 659 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: It might not even be an office. 660 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, here you go. Here's some watermelon 661 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: and chicken and ha ha ha and it's okay, it's okay, 662 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: now we can do that. It's not inappropriate and grabbing 663 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: by the you know what I mean? 664 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, almost. I almost feel like if you're black, you 665 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: were in an office, you gotta start clapping back. 666 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to. 667 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: My point is got to be crazy. It's crazy coat. 668 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: That you cannot you cannot rationalize with crazy. So I'm saying, 669 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: we have to meet that energy and how do we 670 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: do that and what does it look like? And I 671 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: think that it's through voices like yours that are just 672 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: so smart and so important and so funny. I think 673 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: what is the premise is your point? I don't know 674 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: what the premise is, but if we can, if we could, 675 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: if we could really talk to him, in a way 676 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: that's funny and makes sense for everybody. So when I 677 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna figure it out, but it's coming. 678 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 3: I think the other the other option is playing running 679 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 3: the place, running the same play book in terms of 680 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 3: the approach to how we inform the people, but then 681 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: waiting for the riffle effects of some of these policies, 682 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: because I don't think what's not going to happen in 683 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: the next year or so. There's not gonna be alloted 684 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: for democratsity to stop a lot of this stuff from 685 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: getting passed. He pushed it. That's just what it is. 686 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: So then maybe you can reason with people that are 687 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: hurt on the other side of these policies, who didn't 688 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: realize that they were chopping off their own nose when 689 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: they voted for Trump. So that might be one way. 690 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: You got to wait for it, wait for that, and 691 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: they still have to trust you as the source of 692 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 3: the information for the thing. And that's part of why like, 693 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 3: and I'm not even saying this on some plugy type shit. 694 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: That's part of why I like what we're doing on 695 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: Have I Got News for You? Is that we're bringing 696 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 3: on right when we had on Tennessee State Rep. Tim 697 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: burchet Yeah, last season, I think we have a lot 698 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: of people's not happy with us. I don't mind that 699 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 3: Samantha Beef was supposed to be the guest originally she 700 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 3: found out. She was like, I'm straight on that. I 701 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 3: don't even want to I don't want to have a 702 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: dialogue with that type of Christim Burchett is voted no 703 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 3: on pretty much everything that is wrong with And you know, 704 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: that was a very tense episode, but it was worthwhile, 705 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 3: in my opinion, to have that person on and just 706 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 3: have a conversation about your policies and just approach it 707 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 3: from a logical place and you can yell at that man, yeah, 708 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: crack some jokes. We took some shots, but he got 709 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: his words in too. Sure, I think that that has 710 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: the potential, that type of dialogue has the potential to 711 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 3: be a bridge versus the whole Why do you platform 712 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: these idiots correct type ideology? 713 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: Sure, but. 714 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I just know that a 715 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 3: lot of people are angry, a lot of people are hurt. 716 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm looking for you to give me 717 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: the answers. I don't know why all. 718 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: Ill looking I'm. 719 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: Answer you, okay, So I've been you know, I think 720 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: of times in this country's history when things were in 721 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: peril or seemingly in peril. And I'm not an alarmist 722 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: by any means, but there are these times in history 723 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: and it was always the artist, whether it be the painter, 724 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: whether it be the the comedian, whether it be the journalist. 725 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: Everybody gave us a blueprint on how to do this, 726 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: whether it be Langston Hughes or James Baldwinner, I to 727 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: Be Wells or or whatever artists you can think of. 728 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with Derek Adams the other night. 729 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: He is one of our contemporaries in terms of art, 730 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, no, it's my time and 731 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: I'll and I don't have to I don't have to 732 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: announce what I'm going to do, but I am going 733 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: to do something. I am going to protest. I am 734 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: going to document this time in history so that it 735 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: can be remembered and not forgotten. I'm going to use 736 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: And he didn't know what it looked like. No one 737 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: knows what it looks like, but they want to do it. 738 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: So I say all that to say, it'll come to 739 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: you because that's the gift you've been given, and can 740 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: you share it with us? Can you not just keep 741 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: it to yourself and be willing? 742 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 3: I think that we have to as a society, which 743 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 3: is part of what I was talking about in the special. 744 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 3: Something is simple is not having a cashier, just not 745 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 3: talking to someone in the grocery store. A little bit 746 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: of chit chat might get you a little bit of 747 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 3: understanding from both sides, you know, Like it's like when 748 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 3: people say, guess so true, when liberals say, I don't 749 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 3: understand how somebody could have voted for that, man, I 750 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: understand off the top. They tell me you don't talk 751 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 3: to enough people. If you don't understand, I absolutely understand. 752 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: I mean, you ain't got enough friends over there? People 753 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: are singleish, you voters. Most people are selfish. Most people 754 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 3: are thinking about themselves. 755 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: First, whad percent? And we were in and that is 756 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: the lonely bubble that we're in, which is why you're 757 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: a special is so special, because that is why we 758 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: are here today. We are we don't even talk to nobody. 759 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll talk to the people I know, And then how 760 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 3: much rhythm ensures that I don't see anybody else? Correct? 761 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: Correct? How much is a loaf of bread. 762 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: In the store or door dash? 763 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: In the store? Door dash is extreme? 764 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: I don't know full dollars for fifty Can. 765 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: You google a loaf of bread? Can you tell me 766 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: how much it cost? I'm gonna ask him a series 767 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: of questions whole week, not the wonder bread. Yeah, how much? 768 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: How much is? How much is a gallon of milk? 769 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 3: Oh? I do not know. I do not know. Okay, 770 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: I generally buy milk by the half gallon. I think 771 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 3: it was like three seventy five, which is shit. That's 772 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 3: a lot. 773 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: We're gonna go back and look at these numbers later. 774 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: How much is a does a carton of eggs? It 775 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: doesn't cardenaggs. 776 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 3: I'd be just hopeful. I'll just be brad. 777 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: You know why we are where we are because you 778 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: don't know those things. That's quite simply, I mean, neither 779 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: we should be ashamed of ourselves. There's an entire section 780 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: of people that believe Donald Trump knows exactly how much 781 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: those things cost and will lower the prices, which is 782 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: why they voted for him. There's an entire section of 783 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: society that believes that. 784 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because I'm not gonna like I haven't 785 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 3: been able to benefit from some level of success in 786 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: the last few years where I don't necessarily have to. 787 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 3: I remember being in a grocery store with my dad 788 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: as a child, and he will look at me, up 789 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 3: gallon and a half gallon. Do the math if he 790 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 3: had a coupon for the half gallon, but there was 791 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 3: a new coupon for the gallon. We leave him with 792 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 3: two half gallons because we saved seven. Yeah, so we're 793 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: doing math equations all down to I honest, a lot 794 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 3: of Americans that deal with that, you. 795 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: Know, it takes you back to your college days. 796 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 3: I've had the privilege for a while to not have 797 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: to look get the gas pump while I pumped my gas, 798 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 3: and I don't think a lot of people understand that what. 799 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: A blessing or auto pay your mortgage. That's a whole 800 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: nother level of just like, I'm not even thinking twice 801 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: by nothing because I. 802 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 3: Remember you pump gas back in the day before they 803 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 3: had the auto stop. 804 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: You. 805 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: I meant the pump ten dollars I missed around in 806 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 3: pump thirteen. 807 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: I used to I used to, well, let me tell 808 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: you something, this is so true. In college, I would 809 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: be like, I got five dollars and seventy five cents. 810 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: Five dollars of the same essence is going into my 811 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: car five dollars and seventy five cents. Whatever it was, 812 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: that's what's exactly what it was. I had a friend 813 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: who would look at people drive really nice cars and 814 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: then they would come to the gas They would pull 815 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: up at the gas station, and then they would drive away, 816 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: and he just it was a photographer of my in Atlanta, 817 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: and he would run around to see if they filled 818 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: up the tank and woul out fail would be like 819 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: ten dollars, fifteen dollars, because that's how most of us 820 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: were living, and that's how most of the world're being honest, 821 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: that's the way. That's the way most of the world lives. 822 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: We key keying out and most of. 823 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 3: The people who are on television do not live like that. 824 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 3: So if you if you have to watch that gas 825 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 3: pump down to the decimal, how relatable do you feel 826 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 3: that person is on TV telling you that you don't 827 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 3: need to vote for this guy who told you he 828 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 3: cared about the eggs, even if it's a lie. 829 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: Even if it's a lie, it's what they need to 830 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: hear it's and it sounds like truth. In his landing, Trump. 831 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 3: Ran the same playbook as Obama, and that was hope. 832 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 3: He just never said the word he used. 833 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: He weaponized all your frustration and hate, and he turned 834 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: that into a platform. People were like, I'm upset them. 835 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 3: Yep, they messing with you. I'm gonna fix it them eggs, 836 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna fix it. Oh what you do, Coald Mining, 837 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna fix it. Had a joke. It never made TV, 838 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 3: but I joke, if you worked at Blockbuster Video and 839 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 3: if Trump said I'm bringing back DVDs. 840 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: Vote for him bringing it back? 841 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 3: You would vote for sure. Netflix and streaming is clearly 842 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 3: the wave. But if Trump said I'm bringing back DVDs 843 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 3: and that's how you feed your family, you could give 844 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: about deportation. Mm hmm, you could give a damn about birthright, 845 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: lunch is, Paris Climate Treaty. I don't know what none 846 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 3: of that means. He said he was bringing back to DVD. 847 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do find one thing that I the 848 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: so blatant. And I wonder how long it will take 849 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: to set in this religious aspect of this evangelical evangelical 850 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: hope that he alleges he has because we saw him 851 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: not put his hand on the Bible. And we also 852 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: know that some of these people truly believe like they 853 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: want Christianity. But I wonder if they really truly want 854 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: that back in our schools the way they say that 855 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: it will come back in our schools. Like in Oklahoma, 856 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: there was a the they have bibles. Now you have 857 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: to read the Bible in school. Now, nice Bibles, the 858 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: Trump Bible. Yeah, buying Trump which is which is so 859 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: blasphemous in so many ways. 860 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 3: That's how you know you're not stupid, because you know 861 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,919 Speaker 3: they're dumb enough to buy it. 862 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: Well, how do you ninety dollars? But how do you 863 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: battle that? Like, you don't. What's the answer if you're 864 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: buying Trump Bibles and you believe that this man believes 865 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: in God and and and he's going to change the 866 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: world and he's God's disciples sent here to help us all. 867 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now those are the extreme. I'm talking about moderate. 868 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 3: I'm talking about people who voted for Mitt Romney and 869 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 3: will now vote who now converted to Trump because. 870 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: Of I just don't know how that's going to last. 871 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: I don't know how long that's gone that's what I 872 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: think will not settle. 873 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 3: Well. I just think that there also has to be 874 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 3: if we're talking communic and journalistically, there has to be 875 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 3: a degree of holding Democrats accountable. 876 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: Now, that's all we have to do. 877 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 3: And I did. The Democrats are somehow bulletproof to criticism. 878 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: Your so right. 879 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 3: That will also be the cattle pride preach because they 880 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 3: don't like. They don't like criticism. Mere don't want to 881 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 3: be Republicans. Low key, it roll off of them. They 882 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 3: don't care. 883 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,479 Speaker 1: Well, they don't care because they have an agenda, doesn't 884 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: you're just talking? Okay, So here's my issue. 885 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 3: John Stuart called Joe Biden old, and y'all have thought that. 886 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 3: He said. 887 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: He's too old. He was too old, but you can't 888 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 1: even walk. He didn't even he didn't even pardon. I'm 889 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: going to get into it, but we're starting to see 890 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: everyone's true colors. He didn't pardon one person, one person 891 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: on Comma's list, which tells me he wasn't fulling with 892 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 1: her again after she lost, like she was the great 893 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: Black Hope and then she didn't win, and now he don't. 894 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: They don't know her no more. Yeah, that is some 895 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: Hollywood for your ass. 896 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 3: But I don't think that was I don't think any 897 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 3: of that was Kamma's fault. And I think that she 898 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 3: took the brunt of it. Of course, I would imagine 899 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: somewhere in there, it was probably a lot of people 900 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 3: telling her how to run her race, and she chose 901 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 3: to run her race the way she wanted to. And 902 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 3: now they going, we should have done it, should have 903 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 3: done what they told him to do and still loss. 904 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 3: Then who are you because they still would cash your aside, 905 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 3: here's mine, Be cast aside, be cast aside on your terms, 906 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 3: run your place. 907 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: I was just about to say, I think that we 908 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: all have a hard time being comfortable in our workspace, 909 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: but especially for black women. And and I'm like, they're always 910 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: going to tell you got an attitude. They're always going to 911 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: be mad at you. There always are going they will 912 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: never really in corporate America or in that kind of space, 913 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: understand you. So why not just do you? It doesn't 914 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: matter to me at the end of the day if 915 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: I tried you, because you try to acquiesce, you try 916 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: to do what they want. But when it comes to 917 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: real life changing issues. I believe Kamala in her heart 918 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: had some things she wanted to do, and she chose 919 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: not to do because she felt like it didn't look 920 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 1: good for a black woman to do that. I agree 921 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: with you. She did run her campaign her way. But 922 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: case in point, she should have immediately separated herself from 923 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: Joe and the border. She should have said this country 924 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: is racist. She did come back around and do that. 925 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: There are things that she thought she was doing for 926 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: the good of the team. That's to your point. Democrats 927 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: got to start criticizing one another. 928 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: How does a Democrat reach a conservative who doesn't like 929 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 3: race based policy and politics and statements by calling the 930 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 3: country racist? How do you do both? You know, Democratic 931 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 3: voters want to hear you say that there is a 932 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: problem with race, Republic. 933 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: There's absolutely a problem with race, but there's also a 934 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: problem with race within races. You got to talk about 935 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: it at all. You can't talk about one and not 936 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: talk about the other. We do have a problem at 937 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: the border. We got to shut these borders down, Joe. 938 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: We don't need all these people coming into our country. 939 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: And this country is also racist at the same time. 940 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 3: Yes, and okay, now you just lost all of the 941 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 3: liberal Latinos. Now, how do you pick in an election 942 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 3: that's supposed to be neck and neck? How do you 943 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 3: make that statement? Can you gain enough Republics while losing 944 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 3: liberals off of that statement? Which is which is the 945 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 3: right thing to say? 946 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 1: Who knows? You gotta do it? You gotta do it consistently, 947 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: so we know so case. Okay, So here's what I 948 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: was thinking. The Democratic sounds this is so blasphemous what 949 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm about to say. But the Democratic Party feels like 950 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: they want to be the party for everybody. They can't, 951 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: They can't represent everybody. 952 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so then who are you for? And that's what 953 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 3: they have to disser. And once you decide that that's 954 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 3: a bunch of argument, then everything. 955 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Behind that, it doesn't matter. 956 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 3: At least the Republicans all go, it doesn't dumb, but 957 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 3: he's our dummy. But you know they talked about Trump 958 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 3: behind his back and laugh heard, No you did, Yeah. 959 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: You saw them reading the lips. Did you see the 960 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: reader of. 961 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 3: George but he ain't never made a statement against that man. Yeah, 962 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 3: well then I won't help you campaign, but I ain't gonna. 963 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 3: I think that's what we're learning. That's what I think 964 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 3: that I think that any party that will be in 965 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 3: opposition will we'll look at that blueprint. I may not 966 00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 3: agree with her, but I'm not gonna throw in her 967 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 3: best and say I'm I'm still gonna run. I'm still 968 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 3: I could have won the election. Yeah, at one hundred 969 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 3: years old on my last leg, I don't. And I 970 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 3: think that that is going to take longer than MI 971 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:09,959 Speaker 3: terms for Demo. 972 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just going to take a long time. 973 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: They said, I remember we talked about it. You need 974 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 1: an entire forensic analysis. Did you go and just from 975 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: head to toe figure it all out? What's in your body? 976 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: Get it out, all of the stuff that's bad. 977 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 3: Do you think that Kamala runs again twenty eight? 978 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: She too hurt? No, she's too hurt. You ever have 979 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: you ever been around a hurt black woman, like a real, 980 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: like a real genuine. 981 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 3: Hurt like one that I heard or one I got 982 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 3: hurt by somebody both I'm talking about the break up 983 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 3: like I'm just silly one that you hurt and I'm different. 984 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: No, No, but it's the same. It's the same. It's 985 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: the same in the sense of you could feel the hurt. 986 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: It's like pople not like like not like raging, but 987 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: like I don't know who I am. Case in point, 988 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm married, I'm with this man. I think this man 989 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: loves me, and then I'll find out he's been cheating 990 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: on me with who That kind of hurt is wild, 991 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: like wild, because you're like, I don't even know who 992 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: is this person. I don't even know you, who's this 993 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: person I've been with for twenty five years making him something, 994 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: not naming anybody but Mary for twenty five years. And 995 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: you find and then you find out he got a 996 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: whole other family with a whole other woman. What kind 997 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: of it's real? That's palpable. I mean, I'm talking about 998 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: just and you feel that in her. So that's what 999 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: I felt, not like she got broken up with her. 1000 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: But the betrayal is what I'm talking about about. The betrayal. 1001 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 3: It's a good word. You love America too much to 1002 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,439 Speaker 3: flip parties. 1003 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: You, So the word betrayal is very complicated. It is 1004 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: a heavy emotion, and the word feels very significant. It 1005 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: has a lot of meaning for a lot of different people. 1006 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: It evokes different types of emotions. But when we come back, 1007 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: I use that word to try to get into Roy's 1008 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: personal life. The question quite simply, has he ever betrayed 1009 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: anyone back in a moment? That's I'm just like, I 1010 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: don't know if she didn't ever get over the betrayal. 1011 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: Some people can't get over. Have you ever been cheated on? 1012 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was not that I'm older, it was 1013 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 3: it was in my twenties. 1014 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: Then have you ever cheated on somebody? 1015 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 3: I chop that up to the game. Yeah, I cheated, 1016 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 3: but I. 1017 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 1: Like I cheated. Let's not talk about that. 1018 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 3: I was finishing my first cheating answer. I'll get to 1019 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 3: the second I cheated answered, But like the idea of 1020 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 3: the hurt, yeah, it's definitely a hurt. And what I've 1021 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 3: learned from being on both sides of cheating is that 1022 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 3: there's no way to reassemble that. Like when you take 1023 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 3: two chemicals somebody somebody sent me a quote I can't 1024 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 3: remember I'm gonna butcher the wording of it, but two chemicals, 1025 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 3: once mixed, inextricably can never return back to what they 1026 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 3: were before they were mixed. And so when you talk 1027 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 3: about betrayal, once you have trust in a bond and 1028 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 3: you break that bond, you can't go back to Like, 1029 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 3: I don't see how comic goes back to ambitious and 1030 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 3: all right, I fell down that time, but I'm back 1031 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 3: America and we're gonna do it this time. And the 1032 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 3: Democrats like, I don't know if you can ever get 1033 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 3: back to that place, because I don't know if anyone 1034 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 3: that is cheated or who who's been cheated on or 1035 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 3: cheated that was the same person on the other side 1036 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 3: you knew. 1037 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: No, no, you make, you make, you make concessions. If 1038 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: you decide to stay in the relationship. You you decide. 1039 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: If she decides to run again, she she has a 1040 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: real understanding of what she's running against in the people 1041 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: that she's running that she's running with, And you also 1042 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: have decided if you want to be part of the 1043 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. I don't know. If I if I were her, 1044 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: I'd be like, can we start a whole new party? 1045 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 1: I would I'm right now at the point like they 1046 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: need to tear this all down and start a whole 1047 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: new party. That's where I feel. That's what I feel, 1048 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: because to your point, we need to start criticizing them more, 1049 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: which which I think you will. I think other comedians will, 1050 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: I think other journalists will, because for so long we've 1051 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: the liberals have owned media and have been very much 1052 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: been a part of legacy media. But those days are over. 1053 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: Because you just said something really smart. Somebody on TV 1054 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: is not looking at me like I can relate to 1055 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. They don't think that at all. 1056 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 3: Then that might be the answer of where we go. 1057 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: That's where we might go. Do we just solve world problems? 1058 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 3: Think we did? I'm serious, I'm serious. Out of it 1059 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 3: has to be going into the losing team's locker room 1060 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 3: and going what are the adjustments you're going to make? 1061 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 3: What have you learned from this? What are your changes 1062 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 3: that you're going to And I said this on stage, 1063 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 3: goofing around, but I do believe it in that what 1064 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 3: makes sports perfect is that there is there's structures of accountability. 1065 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 3: When the team loses, there is a press conference, they 1066 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 3: make changes, they announced the changes, they tell you all, 1067 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 3: this is how we're going to fix what happened this year. 1068 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,839 Speaker 3: Whereas Democrat like the joke was basically the day after 1069 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 3: the election, I got an email asking me for money 1070 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 3: continue to fight. I'm sorry, what is the plan? 1071 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? Because I'm not giving you no money if I 1072 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: don't know the plan. 1073 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 3: Have we signed free agent yet. 1074 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: Have we roach it? Yeah? 1075 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you trying to sell season ticket packages? 1076 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 1: I'm all set on your season tickets, y'all lost. I'm 1077 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: all set on your season ticket I'm all set on 1078 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: your season tickets. Democrats, y'all lost. I think there has 1079 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: to be that is so profound. I'm all set on 1080 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 1: your season tickets. I'm not buying anything from you anymore, 1081 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: single game ticket. I might pop in here and check 1082 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: is take it out, but y'all not gonna have me 1083 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: locked in. 1084 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 3: But let people know what the plan is. Start having 1085 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,359 Speaker 3: a cohesive approach. I still think they're looking wounds, and yeah, 1086 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 3: the bigger issue becomes And this goes right back to 1087 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 3: the ADL thing, because I think it's forty forty or 1088 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 3: so Democrats supported Trump's immigration blah blah blah, sure that 1089 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 3: he just signed or whatever. How much do you go? 1090 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,479 Speaker 3: How much are you risking reelection from voters who don't 1091 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 3: see what you see in terms of needing to have 1092 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 3: a different approach to party, Because there are a lot 1093 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 3: of voters who believe that the playbook that Democrats have 1094 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 3: been runing in the last eight years of you see it, 1095 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 3: call it out compromise nothing. I'm not voting for you. 1096 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 3: So now you're out. Now you're out of a job. 1097 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 3: So do you choose yourself? 1098 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: No, you do. You choose what the world is requiring now. 1099 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: And a lot of this is due to what Trump is. 1100 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: He's gotten rid of the language of politics. It requires 1101 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 1: you to be very plain and very clear. 1102 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 3: So on some Jasmine Crockett bluntness, on some Marjorie Taylor Green. 1103 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,760 Speaker 1: Bluntness, that's what we're requiring. 1104 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,959 Speaker 3: Those are the people that resonate with their basis. Okay. 1105 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 3: So but if you're a traditional, if you're an old 1106 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 3: establishment politician, and you know you have to be across 1107 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 3: the aisle now, but you answer to a base that 1108 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 3: does not with any politics. 1109 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: You have to start. But it doesn't matter. You have 1110 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: to start talking to your base in ways that they 1111 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: understand the same way that we're calling our Democrats. We 1112 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: got to call it our base. Look, I know I 1113 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: ran on this, but I'm gonna tell you what the 1114 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: world is today. Okay, now you're out, that's fine. The 1115 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: next person, that's fine, But we have. 1116 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 3: To you, Okay, go, what's your How many politicians are 1117 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 3: willing to be that bold because the next one in 1118 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 3: it's going to say the same thing you said. 1119 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: Now I agree with that. Not many, not many. 1120 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 3: So then they're choosing themselves or they're choosing the country. 1121 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 3: And that's the same as the Blockbuster Video employee, and 1122 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 3: it's the same as the ADO I hear you. 1123 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: They're choosing themselves. 1124 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 3: It cuts you off. 1125 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I cut you off. Your mom told 1126 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: you I talked too much, so I'm sure I'm sorry. 1127 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 3: My mom said that you were eloquent and that I 1128 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 3: need to be more eloquent when I'm seeing it. 1129 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: Roy Wood Junior's mother said, Carrie Champion talks too much 1130 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: on TV, plaining it wrong. She said, can you lesson? 1131 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: Can you lessen the amount that Carrie Champion? 1132 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 3: My mom said, why does Carrie talk me so much? 1133 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 3: In your arm? 1134 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: Mama shut me down like that dog boy? 1135 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 3: You smart too? She why she the only one showing 1136 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 3: that she's smart. It was a complimentary volume. She was 1137 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 3: complimentary to the volume in which you speak and wanting. 1138 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 1: The volume in which is Yes. 1139 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 3: It was a compliment. You refuse. I ain't telling you not. 1140 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was. First of all, I love your mother. 1141 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: Tell her thank you. I did receive that as a 1142 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: compliment but hilarious. I was like y'all Ory's mama said, 1143 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: I talked too much. I didn't even know that. 1144 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 3: I know you like this, just like I always don't 1145 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 3: see Ann being quiet. That's my mom's critique of me 1146 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 3: anytime on anything other than my show on the network. 1147 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 3: You too quiet. Well, I'm looking for the jokes. I'm 1148 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 3: not here to be Kerrie's smart. Those policies. 1149 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: Jont I listen, I have I know, I have passion. 1150 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: I know just as much as you know. I just 1151 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: I just I have common sense, which people don't show. 1152 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 3: You and Keith boy can. I have nothing to add 1153 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 3: that's not true. I have nothing to zero. 1154 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: I hate that you do that to you. I hate 1155 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: that that is not true. That is not here, that 1156 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: is not true. My last thing before I get your 1157 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: out of here. Now that you are, you're working so much, 1158 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: you stay working a lot. What I've noticed about people 1159 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: like you and myself, depending on how you come about 1160 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: come up in this industry, your industry, my industry. We 1161 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: are very private people. We never reveal who we are, 1162 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: so sometimes it hinders people from saying I mean I'm 1163 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: talking about personal things too. It stops people from really 1164 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 1: knowing things like when people hate on me, they're like, 1165 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: you're so silly. I didn't know that. I'm like, God, 1166 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't show that. I guess I showed them the 1167 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: woman who speaks in large volume according to Roy's mother, 1168 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: So I would like to So I wonder, I wonder 1169 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: if you ever think that you should reveal more of 1170 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: who you are, perhaps the softer side, not necessarily softmen 1171 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: don't like that word, But just do you think you 1172 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: need to reveal more of who you are personally? Because 1173 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: you don't in jokes, be like I don't you don't 1174 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: you don't be like I went on a date the 1175 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: other day. No Jesus's sout, No. 1176 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 3: No, those against all protocols. 1177 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 2: No. 1178 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 3: Habitually where it started. I started standing up when I 1179 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 3: was nineteen and I performed for primarily grown ups thirty 1180 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 3: five plus. They didn't care about me. So my writing 1181 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 3: style was what does the room care about? So my 1182 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 3: style became more about what is happening to us collectively? Okay, 1183 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 3: So habitually that was the writing muscle that got worked 1184 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 3: okay for the first ten years of my career. And 1185 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 3: you are what you do and so that was where 1186 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 3: my curiosities. Lie, I will talk about myself or something 1187 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 3: that I'm going through if it connects to the greater 1188 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 3: conversation about the point I'm trying to make, Like I 1189 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 3: had I talked about I talked about getting arrested, Like 1190 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 3: I'll talk about that a couple times on the podcast. Sure, 1191 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 3: But all right, credit card fraud and probation. Unless I 1192 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 3: have something bigger to say about incarceration, I'm not just 1193 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 3: gonna tell you a story about the time. Man, I 1194 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 3: don't even. But then I was able to figure out 1195 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 3: a way to tell the story about being nice to 1196 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 3: a customer at Golden Corral. And this is how I 1197 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 3: ended up talking about this on stage. I did even 1198 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 3: being arrested. Was I was very nice to a customer. 1199 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 3: I've always tried to be nice to people. And the 1200 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 3: night I got arrested and I was in jail, a 1201 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 3: dude wanted to fight. Does not know me, but wants 1202 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 3: to fight because everybody elvers coming in. He knew his 1203 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: mom someone that got an arrested for a domestic against 1204 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 3: his mother, so he assumed whoever came in jail that 1205 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 3: day was the person who got arrested for the domestic 1206 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 3: So his objective was to beat out of anybody who 1207 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 3: got processed that day. 1208 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:22,439 Speaker 1: Damn. 1209 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 3: So one by one he's making notes and he's going 1210 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 3: to fight you tomorrow, Fight you tomorrow, fight you tomorrow. 1211 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 3: As you're coming in, I don't know this man. And 1212 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 3: I come in and a guy comes up to him 1213 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 3: and taps my own shoulder. 1214 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Go. 1215 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 3: Now, that one right there is cool. He used to 1216 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 3: hook me up with free food at Golden Corral. 1217 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 1218 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 3: And it was the customer that I'd been nice to. 1219 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 1220 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 3: So that's not a story about me getting arrested. That's 1221 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 3: the story about hospitality and the idea of how far 1222 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,439 Speaker 3: stretching karma can go. Sometimes. So if I talk about 1223 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 3: still in credit cards, I was in college. I wanted 1224 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 3: just jeans. I wasn't no whole operation. 1225 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Get a critic card, got a fell in here, never 1226 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: had a fellon on the podcast. 1227 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 3: Could be president next. 1228 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:07,959 Speaker 1: I've never had a fellow. 1229 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 3: It'll be nice to me. 1230 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Where you guys believe we have a felon. 1231 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 3: That'll be nice to me, because when I become president, 1232 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna shut down your podcast. I'm gonna call your enemy. 1233 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 3: You're not a patriot. You're not a patriot. This is 1234 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 3: very unpatriotic behavior of view. I thought you was a 1235 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:31,479 Speaker 3: freedom fighter. Everybody bout my crypto, so you know, I don't. 1236 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 3: I just think there's layers of yourself that just yeah, 1237 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 3: you have to really be fully enveloped in that to 1238 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 3: talk about yourself, like I talked about, Like even in 1239 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 3: this special, I talk about being invited to a sex 1240 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 3: party and I talk about a bad date that went on. 1241 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 3: But both are connected to the idea of connection. So 1242 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 3: which is you know, the next thing I'm working on. 1243 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 3: So I sold a book it's called The Man of 1244 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 3: Many Fathers. Even in that it's maybe like another foot 1245 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 3: into the water of personal I. 1246 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: Like when you talk about your dad. I like when 1247 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: you talk about that relationship. 1248 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 3: It's a weird relationship. 1249 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: But that to me resonates with so many people because 1250 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 1: the parent child relationship is so complicated and it's for everyone, 1251 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 1: for everyone, and and some of you are lucky. You 1252 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: want the parent lottery, you know, or the child lottery. 1253 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: But I just think it's special. 1254 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I don't know what that's going to 1255 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 3: be on stage, but it's interesting. My father died when 1256 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 3: I was sixteen. I learned a ton of lessons from 1257 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 3: other men after him. These are the stories of how 1258 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 3: I learned. I love it, okay, but that's I'm right 1259 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 3: net in case I die, So my son has a 1260 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 3: thing to read. I'm just being real, Like, that's so 1261 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 3: that he's not talking to other people trying to figure 1262 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 3: out who his father was, which I know he'll be 1263 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 3: able to figure out because I'll talk to nobody. 1264 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: But see, that is what I think. This next level, 1265 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: like this series that you have with Lonely Flowers, Like 1266 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 1: I feel like the next series is how I unlonelyad myself, 1267 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 1: and that is going to be you revealing yourself to 1268 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: all of us. I'd like ten percent now, thank you. 1269 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 3: Does everyone deserve to know everything about us though? 1270 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: Nope, But you don't have to give them everything. Everybody 1271 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 1: can't be Beyonce you where you parse out stuff a truth. 1272 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 1: What may Beyonce who she is today is when we 1273 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: saw the elevator video, correct, we were like what and 1274 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: we all had her back, but we were also very 1275 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 1: disappointed in her response. But then we also appreciated her 1276 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: music because it brought us lemonade, like it brought us 1277 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: some of the best things ever. 1278 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, because lemonade was introspective. I think most all forms 1279 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 3: of entertainment on her best albums either is it atro 1280 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 3: intro you know, like what I see versus what's happening 1281 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 3: in here? Only types of entertainment that exists. So I've 1282 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 3: been that for a long time and now only flowers 1283 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of this and then start talking about 1284 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 3: my dad and all of that, and it'll be that, 1285 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 3: and then I'll. 1286 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 1: Get into you're gonna tell people that we went on 1287 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: a date. 1288 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, tell them that. I'll tell them all the things. 1289 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 3: Ever now, dating life, I'll never talk about that in stage. 1290 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 1: No way. 1291 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 3: No, I'm trying to why. 1292 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: I think it would be fun. I think it'll be 1293 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: fun anybody. And then I'll let people know that you 1294 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: were undercover PEMP like that's the best part. 1295 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 3: That's also I don't talk about sex on stage like 1296 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 3: I just because you people know you're a pimp. I 1297 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 3: just don't like talking about that intimate parts. 1298 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: Interesting. 1299 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 3: Is this nothing that I can I don't have any 1300 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I have anything educational to offer 1301 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 3: people on that, you know, But if I'm. 1302 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: Talking is there an educational sex joke that we need? 1303 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 3: But if I can talk about growing up in my 1304 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 3: next door neighbor, my literal next door neighbor, being in 1305 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 3: prison for murder, and how the guilt of that makes 1306 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 3: me feel because I also knew the victim, the person 1307 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 3: that he was convicted of killing. That's a far more 1308 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 3: interesting piece of myself to offer them. 1309 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 1: And how that made you, what that did to you, 1310 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 1: how it affected you. 1311 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 3: Right, and having conversations with his family about like that 1312 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 3: I put on stage because that's that's fair, that's more 1313 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 3: layer than I got cheated on. 1314 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: Well, you're just so smart. You're just so smart because 1315 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,439 Speaker 1: that you're giving me this high level of these jokes. 1316 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 1: You're so smart. All This is my point and okay, 1317 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm wrapping up with this. All comedians are so intelligent, 1318 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 1: and that's why I feel like artists, comedians journalists, not 1319 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 1: all journalists. Like I feel like this is going to 1320 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: be a very special season. And being able to figure 1321 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: out how to adjust because it's halftime, we're in a second, 1322 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: we're the second half, right, we're coming out of half 1323 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 1: and the second half. How do we adjust to this 1324 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: new America, this new way that we move because it's 1325 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 1: not new, it's old, but we will have to figure 1326 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 1: this out. I think some fart jokes and some sex 1327 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 1: jokes will be helpful to Okay, and. 1328 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'll start with. I'll start with the 1329 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 3: time I returned an engagement ring and the dude at 1330 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,439 Speaker 3: zails tried to talk me into taking her back. 1331 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: Now, that's a good story, and you returned the well 1332 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: zales is the first part. I'm gonna judge you on 1333 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: the second part. That's a two month salary. That's America. 1334 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 1: That's America, thank you. That is what we're talking about. 1335 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 1: That is the America. 1336 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 3: How much is bread? 1337 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: You know? How much bread was? 1338 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 3: How much an engagement? 1339 01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: How much was it? 1340 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 3: Ste nine dollars? 1341 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Seven hundred and west. 1342 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 3: Sixty nine dollars? 1343 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 1: Oh? What are you owing? Like? 1344 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 3: That was a lot of money back when nights and 1345 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,919 Speaker 3: weekends and start to nine p almost down. It's real 1346 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,439 Speaker 3: money back then. That's what I had. 1347 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 1: I am saying. It's sweet, it's endearing, it's endearing. It's endearing. 1348 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Roy Wood Junior, Hulu watch it. He's my friend. I 1349 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 1: like him a lot. He makes me laugh. 1350 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me. 1351 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: Naked Sports Written and executive produced by me Kerry Champion, 1352 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 1: Produced by Josh Pys Thomas, sound designed and mastered by 1353 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: Dwayne Crawford Associate producer Ola Busayl Shabby Naked Sports is 1354 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 1: a part of the Black Effect podcast network in iHeartMedia