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Speaker 1: Lakers picked up Luke Knard today. Can hit threes, can't

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Speaker 3: But you know Austin Reeves and Luke Kennard in the

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Speaker 3: back court, are they stopping.

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Speaker 1: SG de Andre eight and at center and listen, I

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Speaker 1: mean listen, you got it. They don't have shooters and

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Speaker 1: they don't have defenders. So their thing is, well, let's

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Speaker 1: just add at another score. If the Lakers are going

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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and win a series, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to score their way to it.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to defend their way to it. So

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Speaker 4: that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, JJ Reddick, Lebron, Luca, Austin Reeves, DeAndre Ay,

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Speaker 1: and Luke Kennard. I mean, they're they're going to win.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win playoff games. They will have knights where

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Speaker 1: they'll just be really good offensively, they'll get the whistle.

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Speaker 3: It's all about the matchup. You know, Minnesota was a

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Speaker 3: bad matchup last year. Anthony Edwards and company, We'll see

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Speaker 3: who they match up with this year. Listen Denver looks

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Speaker 3: doesn't look unbeatable with all these injuries. Sga now on

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Speaker 3: the shelf for a few weeks. Spurs, Spurs are the team.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 6: I think Spurs Knick's NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you think it was interesting? No takers for Giannis?

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Speaker 1: No serious again? Thirty one not healthy now several injuries.

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Speaker 1: Does not shoot needs ball like the Nick fans are

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Speaker 1: all like, I like, he would definitely help your defense,

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Speaker 1: but he needs the ball and Jalen Brunson needs the ball.

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Speaker 1: So he would be an upgrade from Cat because Cat

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Speaker 1: and Jalen Brunson on the floor, you can hunt them.

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Speaker 4: And we talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The regular season of the NBA is open Mike Night

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Speaker 1: for comedians. You can experiment. Nobody's taping it. You can

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Speaker 1: make mistakes. Two nights later, you're in New Orleans at

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Speaker 1: the Giggle Factory. You know, the Playoffs is your Netflix

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Speaker 1: or streaming comedy special. All the jokes have to land

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Speaker 1: large audience. You've got to be precise. The weak stuff

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Speaker 1: gets cut and it's more memorable. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Guys like Luca or James Harden. You can be in

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Speaker 1: the regular season where scouting reports are thin, teams flying

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Speaker 1: to town, they're tired. You get to the postseason, people

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Speaker 1: hunt weak defensive players. So the Lakers have about five

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Speaker 1: of them. But can they win in the regular season?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Can they win a playoff game? Because again, you just

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Speaker 1: opening game of a series. You're feeling each other out

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Speaker 1: and Luca gets red hot, get somebody in foul trouble,

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Speaker 1: but the Lakers. Basically, you have to make choices, and

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Speaker 1: the Lakers are like, we're choosing offense. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: an offensive team. J Mack with the news, Turn on

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Speaker 1: the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News, all right.

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Speaker 3: So Mike Vrabel is trying to join some exclusive company

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Speaker 3: with a Super Bowl win. Colin I was not aware

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Speaker 3: of this until moments ago. So Vrabel just joined the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: And would you believe it that there's only four head

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Speaker 6: Doesn't really happen. You know, there's got to be a rebuild.

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Speaker 6: Usually this is an exclusive group.

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Speaker 3: Kubiak in Denver twenty fifteen, John Gruden memorably.

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Speaker 6: With Tampa Bay. Then you got to go.

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Speaker 3: Back to the eighties, George Seaffert in San Franz who

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Speaker 6: It's a massive leap.

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Speaker 3: Remember this team, this Patriots team last year was not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Seattle has I think the more fortified roster,

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Speaker 3: And even if they lose, it's like, hey man, we're

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Speaker 3: Doory Colln that's Mike McCarthy, the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's excited about that, but they are curious about Aaron Rodgers' future.

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Speaker 6: Well, according to Jay Glazer, McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: And Rodgers have talked since the hiring, and Rodgers has

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Speaker 1: Well, they Mike's already built an offensive staff and it's

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Speaker 1: Mike's in control. It's his team, especially in year one

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Speaker 4: Ever have unless they just win a Super Bowl. J

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Speaker 2: News, Well, that's the news.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for stopping that.

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Speaker 2: The herd line new.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've talked about over the I mean, I've been

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Speaker 1: a Sam Donald fan for a long time since USC

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Speaker 1: but that you know, you have to be careful about judging,

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Speaker 4: Early. So much of it's a journey.

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Speaker 1: You can look at Baker Mayfield, it was success, it

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. Double it and add another thirty percent. And

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Speaker 1: that's the journey of Ryan Fitzpatrick, who now does a

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Speaker 1: great job on Amazon Prime Thursday night football analysts, very outspoken,

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback for nine different teams, which is a record.

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Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting is I always think when

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Speaker 1: they always get short change because everybody's like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he's really athletic, strong, thick. Sometimes that aggressiveness got

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Speaker 1: that you've got some sam Is, that you were never

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Speaker 1: afraid to let it rip, you had a very short memory.

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Speaker 1: Teammates really liked you, So I would guess Ryan, you

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 7: I love Sam and I've known him since his rookie

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Speaker 5: But it's not easy.

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Speaker 7: It's not easy to get picked that high and to

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Speaker 5: He took a step back.

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Speaker 7: He wanted to insert himself into the McVeigh Shanahan tree.

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Speaker 7: He meets Clint Kubiak there and I love that he

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Speaker 7: way in his journey. It's been awesome, but it takes

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Speaker 7: a special guy to be able to overcome the adversity

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Speaker 7: that he has because I've been there and it is

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Speaker 7: not easy, all the criticism. But he's got a great

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, you go and look at your

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Speaker 1: Now you started for nine different teams. You are a

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Speaker 1: most consecutive four hundred yard games ever by a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna want to get us or eight

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Speaker 1: What is the line that you self manage that you

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Speaker 1: you turn down the governor? Because I watch Sam sometimes

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Speaker 1: Is that a hard thing to do if, even if

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Speaker 7: Colin, I never found a way to turn it down.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'll tell you have to. You do have

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Speaker 7: to rely on your coach for a lot of that.

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Speaker 7: I think that's why it's important that there is a

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Speaker 7: And so Clint has to know on certain situations and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you overlapped with Brabel and Houston. Mike's really bright.

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Speaker 1: How about that? The you know so interesting about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: I don't know him, but I love I think his

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Speaker 1: Well, you've really become you and the Amazon I just

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Speaker 4: You really have.

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Speaker 1: And I see here today you are and this is

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Speaker 5: Aruba's incredible. Is great.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope people appreciate you. You just ended up being

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Colin, and we have, of course Carissa Thompson

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Speaker 5: I get that a lot.

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Speaker 7: He's a freshman, and he sends me the chalkboard in

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Speaker 4: Say hi to the crew. Thanks buddy, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Colin all right, Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's really a credit. He's

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Speaker 4: I have ever had during a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We have had more thoughtful, smart guests than any Like

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Speaker 4: And they're swearing on the air. I mean we've had more.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 1: We have had multiple words that you know, people get

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Speaker 1: There are some edges by I think Ryan Fitzpatrick put

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Speaker 1: If there's going to be an avalanche one way or

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Speaker 1: comparing quarterbacks. Both good, but I do think super Bowl

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Speaker 1: experience at the various times in this game does matter.

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Speaker 6: Now, this one's tough. Which team has the better quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Well, the highest graded quarterback the highest passer Rainey of

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Speaker 1: any quarterback that play this year in the postseason was

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald.

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Speaker 4: So it's Sam Donald.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, he played a flawless football game against a very

446
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Speaker 1: good defensive team in the Rams, and he's had three

447
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Speaker 1: games with no turnovers.

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Speaker 6: Which one of these guys is going to be the

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Speaker 6: runner up to MVP.

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Speaker 4: Sam Donald?

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Speaker 6: Which team has a better running back scholarship?

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Speaker 1: I think New England's are underrated, but I would say Seattle,

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Speaker 1: though they don't have a lot of depth. Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 1: led all running backs five point seven yards per touch

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Like he's been crazy explosive and he's

456
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Speaker 1: got good speed, but he also makes you miss. Highest

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Speaker 1: rushing grade by any team this season was the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: They're run bracking O. Line's pretty good now, I think Charbonnay,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would be. I think Seattle could

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Speaker 1: be in trouble if it was like a six game

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Speaker 1: stretch with no consistent backup running back. They do have

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Speaker 1: a full back they can use employ, but I think

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Speaker 1: he is kind of the star running back in this game.

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Speaker 3: Which team has the better pass catchers in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: I think that's New England. I think they have a

466
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Speaker 1: mix of young and old. You get Stefan Diggs, you

467
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Speaker 1: get Hunter Henry maccollins, so you get some veterans. Then

468
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Speaker 1: you get Keysham Boutet and Kyle Williams. Williams is at

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Speaker 1: not getting a ton of touches, but man, he's explosive.

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Speaker 1: They were tied for the fewest drops in the NFL

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Speaker 1: this year. That is again coaching Hunter Henry had a

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Speaker 1: great year and finds himself Seattle can be a little

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Speaker 1: vulnerable to the tight end. Maybe maybe a little bit here,

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Speaker 1: especially with the safety being dinged up. So I think

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Speaker 1: New England actually actually has one of the more interesting

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Speaker 1: receiving groups in the league, and I think Seattle can

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Speaker 1: be very reliant on JSN.

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Speaker 3: Okay, which team has the better offensive line?

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle and I don't think either is great,

480
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Speaker 1: but Seattle grades very well as a run blocking O

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Speaker 1: line pass pro. There's and the thing about Seattle that

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Speaker 1: they're all homegrown. You know, they drafted Charles Cross and

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Speaker 1: Gray's Abel. It's a homegrown offensive line. They've drafted, They've

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Speaker 1: been patient, they've developed in terms of the ability to

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Speaker 1: run the football. The advantage is to Seattle, so I

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Speaker 1: would give the Hawks the.

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Speaker 5: O mine edge.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's go to defense. Which team has the

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Speaker 6: better front? Seven?

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Speaker 1: Seattle is has seven four different players with seven plus sacks.

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Speaker 1: They're both good. I think Seattle's depth is crazy. Seattle

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Speaker 1: also has not allowed a one hundred yard rusher in

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Speaker 1: twenty eight games, and that's notable because Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 4: They played him a couple times. Yeah, so it is

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Speaker 4: really hard.

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Speaker 1: They also Seattle corners safeties tackle well, so the front

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Speaker 1: seven is good.

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to the secondary. Which team has

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Speaker 3: the better defensive backs in this game?

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a coin to me. I would probably

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Speaker 1: I think Devin Wetherspoon's the best corner, so I'd probably

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Speaker 1: go Seattle. But I love Christen Gonzalez. But now Nick Amanwari,

503
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Speaker 1: now the coach said he's gonna play, He's something else.

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Speaker 1: So the other thing is Seattle secondary. Seattle was great

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Speaker 1: defensively on third down that's often a passing down, So

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Speaker 1: Seattle was a big play secondary.

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Speaker 4: They were very good.

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Speaker 1: Remember Matt Stafford was zero for six on third down,

509
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Speaker 1: and Matt Stafford played well. So a lot of Super

510
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Speaker 1: Bowl comes down to situational football secondaries. When you go

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Speaker 1: secondary to secondary, if I have the best corner Seattle

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Speaker 1: and unbelievable on third.

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Speaker 4: Down in that back end, you'd have to go Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to special teams. Which team has the better

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Speaker 3: special teams in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody says Seattle, And I think that's a

517
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Speaker 1: large part of that is Rashid He as a returner

518
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Speaker 1: New England's Okay, Seattle was ranked seventh, so I know

519
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Speaker 1: you're saying Seattle's gonna blow him out in this game.

520
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Speaker 1: But sometimes the edges aren't pronounced, like quarterback is I

521
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Speaker 1: think close. I think coaching is New England experience, New

522
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Speaker 1: England little older roster, which I like. In this game,

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Speaker 1: New England. I think Seattle's youth worries me, but I

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Speaker 1: think special teams i'd give the edge.

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Speaker 3: Finally, which team has the better play calling in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: New England?

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Speaker 1: I think Josh McDaniels is the best play caller in

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Speaker 1: the league. Oh, I mean his history is he is.

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Speaker 1: He tried as a head coach and it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is his third run with New England,

532
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Speaker 1: so they keep bringing him back for a reason. I

533
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Speaker 1: don't think he ever leaves. I think he'll say he

534
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Speaker 1: loves his family loves it. I also think if you

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Speaker 1: looked at the play calling in a blizzard, I think

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Speaker 1: he faced really good defenses.

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Speaker 4: The old line's not great. They played in inclement.

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Speaker 1: Weather, and if you go back to third key third

539
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Speaker 1: downs for New England in this playoff run, pretty impressive.

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Speaker 4: So I know what you're.

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Speaker 1: Saying, Oh boy, oh boy, Okay, but now let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: Coaching and play calling are huge to New England pass

543
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Speaker 1: catchers in twenty twenty six is a big deal.

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Speaker 3: You could argue the pass catchers JSN the best receiver

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Speaker 3: in this game.

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Speaker 4: Well, Settle ends you've raved about it.

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Speaker 1: Seattle has very good high end talent. I think the

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Speaker 1: four best players in the game are Seahawks, and then

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Speaker 1: I think when you go five through fifteen, it's evenly dispersed.

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Speaker 1: Now you know star players in big games, but I

551
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Speaker 1: think a lot of it is I think I'm I

552
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Speaker 1: still haven't picked who I think is gonna win. I

553
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Speaker 1: think New England against the spread feels like the bet.

554
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Speaker 1: And I do think Seattle has a deeper roster, and

555
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Speaker 1: I do think Seattle. But you can make up so

556
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Speaker 1: much ground in coaching. I mean a prime example is

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Speaker 1: how did the dynasty for New England start. They were

558
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Speaker 1: fourteen points underdogs and they coached there. That's before Brady

559
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: was dominant. They had a good defense New England and

560
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Speaker 1: a coaching edge New England, and they were fourteen point

561
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Speaker 1: dogs in one Ryan Fitzpatrick talk about this. The longer

562
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Speaker 1: this game goes, the closer it is. That empowers the underdog,

563
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Speaker 1: So you get a little tight in games Seattle. I

564
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Speaker 1: think Seattle wants to start fast because I think the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff's like, listen, we don't want to go in

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Speaker 1: mid third quarter, tied at seventeen.

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Speaker 4: So there you go, Colin.

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Speaker 6: I had to look this up.

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Speaker 3: So Sam Donald not much of a comeback guy, right,

570
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Speaker 3: hasn't had a lot of comebacks because he's a great

571
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Speaker 3: front runner, and the Seattle defense stakes and leads, they've

572
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Speaker 3: got a lot of blowouts.

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Speaker 6: Does that kind of muddy the water?

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Speaker 3: Like what if this is seventeen fourteen Patriots with four

575
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Speaker 3: minutes left? I mean, do you trust Sam Darnald to

576
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Speaker 3: get it done because he hasn't really done that well.

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Speaker 1: He was again against the Rams, he was very good

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Speaker 1: on third down. So Seattle's been sort of a dicey

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Speaker 1: red zone team. I think a lot of it's youth.

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Speaker 1: I think also a lot of it is you kind

581
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Speaker 1: of know Jsend's the guy, so you kind of bracket

582
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Speaker 1: even though he'll get open, but you try to take

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Speaker 1: jsn out and then.

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Speaker 4: It listens so many I think Ryan Fitzpatrick hit on it.

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Speaker 1: If you told me it was twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: at half, I would bet my four to oh one

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Speaker 1: k that would be Seattle. But if you told me

588
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Speaker 1: the final score is twenty four to twenty three, I'm

589
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Speaker 1: probably sixty forty New England because that tells me New

590
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Speaker 1: England wasn't overwhelmed on the offensive line. That's my concern

591
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Speaker 1: is that New England can't consistently block them. That's my concern.

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Speaker 1: If you tell me it's twenty four to twenty or

593
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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty three, that tells me New England's

594
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Speaker 1: offensive line is just fine. Now it's coming down to

595
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Speaker 1: situational football and coaching. Well, Seattle gives the ball away,

596
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Speaker 1: Seattle's very average in the red zone, and Seattle has

597
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: a coaching disadvantage in play calling. So if you tell

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Speaker 1: me it's closed, and I think it will be, that's

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Speaker 1: why I give the edge the New England.

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Speaker 6: Do you remember that Patriots Rams Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Goff was an up and coming star, McVeigh

603
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: was a genius offense. That offense lit up everybody all season,

604
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Speaker 3: and Belichick and that spectacular defense almost shut them out.

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Speaker 6: I think the final was thirteen three.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: Would you be surprised if Seattle you look up at

608
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Speaker 3: halftime and it's thirteen nothing and New England can't do

609
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Speaker 3: anything because Colin, I'm just telling you, may is a

610
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Speaker 3: young quarterback who takes a lot of sacks, and this

611
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Speaker 3: defense in McDonald has cooked up some schemes to stop

612
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Speaker 3: basically everybody except Matt Stafford. And I know Baker Mayfield

613
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: had a good game against him, But I'm a little

614
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Speaker 3: starting to get worried about the Patriots. You start to

615
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Speaker 3: drill down on this team and it's like, well, Seattle's

616
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Speaker 3: the best run d in the league.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. So Liam Colin and the Jags had

618
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: a great season. They played Seattle and if you remember

619
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Speaker 1: that game, couldn't do what they got.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and then Jacksonville.

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Speaker 6: They were at home in that game too, because I

622
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Speaker 6: bet Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: And that's a long flight for Seattle. And Jacksonville got worked.

624
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Speaker 1: And we had Lean klem On and I asked him,

625
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're there, you're looking at film. I mean

626
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Speaker 1: you you got work by Sea, And I think that's

627
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Speaker 1: the only game this year where Jacksonville just got pushed

628
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Speaker 1: around the field. Yeah, and here was Lian colem On

629
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Speaker 1: facing the Seahawks.

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Speaker 9: They've got waves of rushers, right, Colin, Like they've got

631
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Speaker 9: groups up front in their front seven specifically that can

632
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Speaker 9: really impact and affect the quarterback. They are exciting. It's

633
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Speaker 9: an exciting defense and then really offensively, a ton of

634
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Speaker 9: explosive plays. Right, They've lived and died by the explosive play.

635
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Speaker 9: Sam's playing at a high level. I think the run

636
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Speaker 9: game is really coming to life. And thought they did

637
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Speaker 9: great things over the course of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's listen, I everybody is betting Seattle. Seattle's got

639
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Speaker 1: more elite players. I am staking a lot of this

640
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Speaker 1: in coaching experience and managing the game. But it is

641
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell in your voice you are

642
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: you really like Seattle. The numbers are telling you Seattle

643
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: is to play now. And and this year, if I

644
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Speaker 1: recall pros against the Joe's, the Joe's did pretty well. Yeah,

645
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: a lot of favorites one so the casual fans did not.

646
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 6: I just looked up that Seattle Jags game.

647
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: Jaguars did not get to the red zone once and

648
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: that was a good offense this year in Jacksonville.

649
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Speaker 6: That was before they traded for Jacobe Myers.

650
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Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm gonna take a look at, you know,

651
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: shut out no touchdowns for the Patriots. I'll look at

652
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Speaker 3: those odds, put some pizza money on them, let's see

653
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: what happens.

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Speaker 6: I don't have a lot of faith in this Patriots offense.

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Speaker 4: Man.

656
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Speaker 6: You you they couldn't do anything in the postseason so far.

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Speaker 6: They are historic loan. They played in snowstorm half of

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Speaker 6: a one half against Denver was in store.

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Speaker 4: Well, Houston was awful weather.

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Speaker 6: I mean, fine, all right, I'll give you a half

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Speaker 6: of awful weather.

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Speaker 4: Like when's the last time you eve and shovel snow.

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Speaker 6: Two thousand and fifteen? Maybe?

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Speaker 4: Okay, No, I listen.

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Speaker 1: I think when you go back to the early portions

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Speaker 1: of that game, they move the ball well enough. They

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they're very good on third down.

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Speaker 1: I it's listen, it's you're the lower seed in the

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Speaker 1: last fifteen years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, dogs have been cooking.

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Speaker 1: In these dogs have been cooking. The media is larger

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Speaker 1: than ever and louder than ever, and the players have

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Speaker 1: access to the media through their phones, which they didn't

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Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years ago. So the underdogs going to this game,

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Speaker 1: and these players sit around in their hotel rooms, right,

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Speaker 1: they're focused in they watch film, they go back, they

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Speaker 1: get their rest and they just hear all week about

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Speaker 1: Seattle's going to bury you. And I think in the

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Speaker 1: last fifteen years, why are underdog? Before that, favorites did well.

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Speaker 1: Why are underdogs doing well? The explosion of media, your

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Speaker 1: ability to watch the media in your hotel room. Therefore

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Speaker 1: coaches can feed you and then it can be verified.

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Speaker 1: And I think human beings, especially competitive athletic human beings,

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Speaker 1: are largely driven by you can't do this and you're

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Speaker 1: going to get humiliated. I think you get more focused,

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Speaker 1: you get more driven, you get angrier. I think now

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Speaker 1: Seattle's got more good players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence two sacks, force fumble MVP. Can I

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Speaker 3: interest you in that? I mean, May was a fumble

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Speaker 3: machine this year college.

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Speaker 4: He had a few. He had a couple.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you know where my flag is planted? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Yeahs thirty six nothing a half apparently,