WEBVTT - Weekend Run: Here’s what got us talking this week! From the New Orleans jailbreak debacle to Botched Commencement Addresses join Amy & T.J. to go behind the headlines. 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:06.400 Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello everyone, 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:11.000 welcome to the weekend edition of Morning Ron. It is Saturday, 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.040 May twenty fourth. I Amy roboch alongside my. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:15.680 Partner TJ Holmes. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:17.840 I saw you putting the mic up to your mouth. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.319 You opened your mouth, and then I thought I'd go 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:21.840 ahead and pause. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.040 I wasn't supposed to talk just yet. I apologize, miss Robot. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:26.079 Please continue. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.840 No, every week we have stories on the Morning Run 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:32.920 that keep us talking after the podcast, we have to 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:34.960 keep moving on because we try to get you all 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.600 the headlines in a succinct way. But man, we have 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.560 more things to say. So every Saturday we're continuing the conversation. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.760 We're going a little deeper on the stories that got 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.199 us either got us talking or got us worked up 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:47.800 or both. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:49.360 And man, what a week TJ. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.599 There are some stories that if we continue to follow, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.920 and then some just blew our minds. Some came out 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:03.480 of nowhere, and some were fun. Some had us. But yeah, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.320 there's so much we do. We try to keep our 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.480 morning runs to twenty minutes or so, but there's so 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.880 much we would love to keep saying. And this is 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.240 a chance to give us to say it, So we 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.640 kind of honing in on some of these stories. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.160 Yeah, and hope it sparks a conversation with you as well, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.440 get you thinking. And I do want to point this out. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.920 We are deliberately leaving out any Diddy trial coverage because 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.320 we have an entirely other podcast for that. So if 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.160 you want to get caught up on Diddy, check out 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.880 our feed, because we actually have Diddy wraps every single 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.319 day after trial to get you up to speed on 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:36.880 all that's going on with that trial. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.600 So we don't have any more to say on that. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.120 No, so we're no Didty news here. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.520 We get and run down on this podcast, but check 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.160 out our other ones if you want all of that, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.040 because there's a lot to digest. All right, We're going 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.720 to start with Man, a story that captivated us all 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.440 week long and it's going to continue into next week likely. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.760 But those escaped inmates out of New Orleans. Initially ten 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.560 inmates were able to get out of jail, and some 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.960 of these were extremely violent offenders, one of whom has 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.480 even been convicted of murder, but some of them waiting 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.000 on murder charges. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.600 But they pulled a toilet off. 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.360 The wall and escaped through a hole and left a 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:19.720 fun little message for guards. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.280 It was that it was kind of bizarre that it 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:22.720 was that easy. We've been talking about it all week. 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:24.640 They're still in the roung very dangerous, and New Orleans 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.400 is on edge right now. But for arrest have now 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.799 been made in this case, the maintenance guy who cut 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.120 off the water, and then three women who helped the 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.919 men in various ways before and after the escape. The 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.640 escape the maintenance guy is the one that I mean, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.200 I chuckled a little bit. None of this should be funny. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.720 But his story initially was, Hey, they were threatening me, 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.480 so I didn't have a choice but to do this. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.000 Then he got a lawyer, and his lawyer came out 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.399 to the public and said, well, it wasn't exactly that way. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.440 Which one do you buy neither? How about that. 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.360 The second one where he said he was just doing his. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.000 Job an overflowing toilet. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.320 Yes, he was told that they needed to cut the 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.200 water off and he did it. Boom bam boom. Is 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:11.080 that not reasonable? 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.160 No, it's not, because here's mister Sterling Williams. When his 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.080 story changed as to why he turned off the water, 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:18.919 which allowed the inmates to pull the. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.280 Toilet off the wall. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.000 He now says a guard told him, Hey, there's a 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:24.840 toilet overflowing. 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.280 You need to take care of that. So that's when 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:27.080 he shut off the water. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.959 Coincidentally, a little while after, he claims, one of those 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.480 inmates threatened him with a shank to turn the water off. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.360 So it just happened to be that way. But when pressed, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.520 he couldn't give the guard's name. He couldn't remember who 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.080 told him to turn off the water. It's I'm sorry, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:44.119 this is an obvious. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.160 You don't know which one it was. I mean, it 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.480 was a very traumatic event going on. They say people 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.240 go through trump and they often have memory loss, so 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:49.960 you can't remember anything. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:51.360 There should have been a defense lawyer. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:52.920 Not only to be a defense law I just can 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.600 see things both ways. Now we smile this a little bit, 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.920 and I'll be honest. Over the years, there have been escaped. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.640 We have covered, especially in local news and whatnot, offenders 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.560 with various backgrounds and crimes they've been charged with. I 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.360 generally root for someone who gets out of jail. And 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.720 I say that because I'm not mad at the inmate. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.640 It's not your fault if somebody locks you up in jail. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.160 Your job then twenty four hours is to try to 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.720 get out. Everybody wants to be free, so you can't 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.480 be mad at them for wanting to be free. You 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.800 can be mad as hell at this jail because you didn't. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.320 You told me this morning they'll convicted as a convicted 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.200 killer who got out through a hole behind a damn toilet. 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.760 Exactly and left a message saying too easy. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:37.480 Lol. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.080 But now this is real consequences because two of the 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.640 prosecutors have had to leave the area because they are 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.680 fearing for their lives and their families' lives. Witnesses have 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.880 had to be relocated. People are scared, as you might 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.159 imagine if you live or if you're even visiting the 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.600 New Orleans area to know these dangerous men are not 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:57.200 only on the. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.239 Loose, but desperate to stay free. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.840 So or knows what would happen if you encountered them. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:02.599 You now have. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.560 And it took them a couple of days for the 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.200 Louisiana State Police to even say, hey, these men are 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.000 armed and dangerous, and yes, now they're going after the 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.960 folks who are aiding and abetting them to stay out 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:15.760 and to stay free. 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:16.640 Because this is so. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:21.080 Serious and here's another glaring issue with the story. It's 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.839 now come out the timeline of what happened these inmates, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.839 because they have it on video. Escaped at one am. 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.599 They had them on video, no one was watching the 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:34.000 video monitors, no security cameras were being monitored. So they 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.120 have them on video running. I'm sure you've seen it 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.560 if you've been watching television coverage of this, and no 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.880 one knew they were gone until eight thirty in the 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:45.040 morning when they did a cell check. Then at eight 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.080 thirty in the morning when they realized ten dangerous criminals 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:50.760 are on the loose New Orleans. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:52.120 Two hours goes. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.880 By before local police are notified to start looking for 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:59.000 these men. That is that is inexcusable, and so it 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.200 is very likely and from the local officials already saying 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.320 heads are going to roll for this and they should. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:09.360 Maybe criminally for what has taken place. So this is Look, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:10.640 this is a scary time for the folks in New 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.400 Orleans right now because they can tell the guys who 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.000 are not having left town and they have nothing to 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:19.240 lose around around town. So that's one that certainly it 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.679 continues to be a story after a full week. Another 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.760 story on Tuesday had people's attention that one of the 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.880 January sixth rioters is now being given five million dollars 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.160 at least her family is. We're talking about Ashley Babbitt, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.719 you might remember that name. She was shot and kills 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.919 she was trying to there's video, I think a pretty 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.799 famous video at this point of her trying to climb 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.960 through a broken window that was going to the Speaker's lobby. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:44.480 Her family gets five million dollars, essentially a wrongful death 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:50.080 settlement here. This set a lot of people, including the 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:51.440 Capitol police, like this. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.040 Is wrong exactly. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.000 So this didn't go over so well with a lot 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.040 of folks, especially the law enforcement folks who were there 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.320 and desperately trying to protect not just the Capitol but 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.800 the congressmen and women inside the Capital who were, you know, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.800 hunkered down and fearing for their lives. But yes, that hallway, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.960 that Speaker's lobby that she was getting into through the 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.320 broken window that would have given her and there were 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.080 plenty of others behind her access to the House of 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:17.320 Representatives chamber. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:18.200 That's scary. 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.040 And the Capitol police officer's duty is to protect the 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.760 lives of the people inside. So the US Capitol Police 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.320 officer who shot and killed Babbitt was cleared of any 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.720 criminal wrongdoing in the incident. However, the family sued for 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:35.000 thirty million dollars and the Trump administration decided to settle 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.000 with them for five million. And yes, the US Capitol 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.560 Police chief said that it was disappointing and they were 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.880 certainly upset with the decision. And a lot of folks 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.080 will have different opinions about whether or not she was 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.840 a criminal and a rioter or she was a patriot, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.480 and you know, you see where the Trump administration has 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.880 fallen on those lines, but it certainly doesn't sit well 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.920 with a lot of law enforcement who do put their 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.640 lives on the line each and every day to protect 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:58.800 the people inside that capital. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.600 On Wednesday, we had a story. This is a this 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.720 is an ongoing story. This one has to do with, 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.280 of course, former President Biden announced he does have an 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.720 aggressive form of prostate cancer. It was not caught in 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.360 his time as president, but it metastasized to his bone. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.200 So this had been going on for years and years 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.480 and years, and everybody was wondering, well, what does how 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:25.000 do we not know that this guy who was monitored 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.960 more than any patient on Earth probably, how do you 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.560 not know he has prostate cancer? And they came out 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.000 and say his last known one and this got everybody talk. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.040 And the last time that his eighty two year old 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.840 man had a prostate screening was back in twenty fourteen. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:42.840 It's funny because the second time you said that the 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.559 last time he had a test, we don't even know 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.120 if that's true. As you point out, the last known 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.280 test result was in twenty fourteen. 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:51.800 That's the problem. What does that mean? Last known? 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.640 It sounds evasive, It doesn't sound transparent, and it doesn't 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.360 sound it sounds like it's a little trickery with words 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.440 so as to not completely but to not completely tell 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:02.040 the whole story. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.560 Last known? Would he know? Would he know the last 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.520 time he got a screening? 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.560 Well, that's unclear, I mean, but I would think at 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.480 the very least the physician to the president of the 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.120 United States should know. And a lot of folks were 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.600 talking about malpractice that if he wasn't being tested for this, 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.240 even though the federal guidelines say once you're seventy you 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.120 don't need to be tested every year because there are 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.480 a lot of false positives and a lot of unnecessary testing. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.600 But that is for the average seventy year old. And 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.560 I still believe if you're seventy and you'd like to 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.280 be tested, you can be. You can ask for it, 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.400 you can request it, and I would think as president 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.400 of the United States, that would be of the utmost concern. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:44.520 So it doesn't feel right that this wasn't happening. It 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.560 feels weird how they've worded it. And have we heard 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.760 from the physician himself. I mean, I would like if 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.920 they really want full transparency and they want to say, hey, 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.559 we just didn't do it because it wasn't under the 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:55.479 federal guidelines. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:57.400 I like to see this doctor actually. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.920 Come out and say that we didn't test him for 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.679 or this, because we haven't heard that definitively. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.760 Well, the result they went back and they have checked 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.439 his they could put them out publicly listed they put 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.080 it out publicly. Yes, So if then you got a problem. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.400 Then if you did test him and then you weren't 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.040 putting it out as a part of his medical report, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.520 that's the problem. Why did you leave it off? So 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.360 you have to assume it was not done. So if 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.600 it was not done, why it should have been done. Right, 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:24.720 let's do it that person. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.559 All, every single person who has looked at this, who 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.840 has a medical degree much smarter than the two of 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.040 us when it comes to what you need to do 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.720 to make sure someone is healthy and to ensure that 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.600 they're fit to be president of the United States. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.040 That's what we're talking about, President of the United States. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.280 To say, well, you know, the guidelines say we shouldn't 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.319 test them, so we skipped. It's that's got to be 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.480 bull Yeah, there's no way, got to be bullshit. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:45.880 I can't believe it. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.480 It just doesn't make any sense and to have now 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.600 and it's unfortunate because. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:52.600 We don't know. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.199 I mean, it doesn't sound like that he had any 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.559 idea that he had stage four cancer, because they did 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:03.480 come out and say that prior to Friday last Friday, 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.000 President Biden has never been diagnosed with prostate cancer. Now 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.040 that is a very clear, definitive statement. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.800 So a Jeohnvre you share, there's no nuance in that one. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.480 Right, there isn't Friday Friday, he. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.920 Had never been diagnosed with prostate cancer. So that that 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.439 means we just found out. 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.400 Yes, So that would make sense that the doctor, the 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.559 physician did not test him like that. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.040 I just can't get my head around that. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.599 I can't. Maybe they are absolutely following the guide that 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.680 we need an explanation for that one, but that just 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.480 seems that's bizarre. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.920 The guidelines when I found my cancer at the age 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.200 of forty were that a woman with no prior family 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:46.160 history should have to have a mammogram until they were fifty. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.640 I chose to do it for a work assignment, as 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.880 could any other woman in her forties. She could say, Hey, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.080 I would like to get a mammogram earlier than the 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.760 federal guidelines suggest. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.000 That led to my cancer diagnosis. So I'm just who 0:11:59.080 --> 0:11:59.360 I am. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.720 Can you imagine the president saying, ah, you know what, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.280 you're outside of the guideline, so let's not do the test. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:06.640 I don't know. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.560 Maybe that blows my mind. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.680 We said all the time people sometimes you don't go 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.400 to the doctor because you don't want to know. Maybe 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.679 they didn't want to know because maybe they knew they 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.319 would then have to put it out. Maybe that was 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.880 the case. I don't know, But they're leaving us all 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.760 to guests and wonder. But what we're getting cannot just get. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.640 It's hard. I want to trust and believe what they 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.439 put out. It just doesn't make sense. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.440 You know so many yeah, so many people don't trust 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.559 our government as it is. I would say a large 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.120 portion of people don't. This does not go anyway and 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.600 helping that feeling that somehow we only get. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:53.240 Information that they deem worthy of us. Knowing about. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.199 Another story we talked a lot about, folks, remember that 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.800 the video certainly of the fan at the Pittsburgh Pirates 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:02.880 game falling over railing and falling onto the playing field 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.160 while the game was still going on. He is still 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:09.360 recovering from some really serious injuries. But rose this it felt, 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.040 I don't know. It's the letter of the law, but 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.600 maybe not the spirit of the law. Someone has been 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:20.360 arrested now for giving that man who fell alcohol. Now 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.679 why would that be the case? Robes Because it turns 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.440 out the man who fell is technically a minor. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.920 He's twenty, and the man who's been charged is his friend. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.480 Who's twenty one. Now I have not found what. 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.320 Their birthdays are exactly, but let's just guess that they're 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.440 within months of each other. So yes, officially, Cavin Markwood 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.840 who fell and got seriously injured, is twenty, and technically 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.680 his friend Ethan Kirkwood, who got charged is twenty one. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.520 But do we really think it serves any purpose to 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.800 then charge this twenty one year old friend of his 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.880 with providing alcohol to a miner when there's already been 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.240 enough consequences as it is. I'm sure he feels terrible 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.679 and this isn't what anyone want to happen. And there 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.480 are also other issues. It seems like they were able 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.280 to point to him having two beers. Who knows what 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.000 they consume beforehand, who knows how much they actually had. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.320 We haven't been given a blood alcohol level or anything 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.920 like that. But to me, no matter what state you're in, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.760 if you just jump up and cheer on your your 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.240 favorite team and you are able to be catapulted over 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.880 a railing, that railing is an issue more than whether 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.440 or not you're a friend of a couple months older 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.560 senior than you gave you a beer or two. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.120 The fall looked, it looked awful when you see the 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.520 video of how he came, I mean he catapulted it 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.200 out of that seat, just excited in the excitement of 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:40.440 the game. It felt. From law enforcement's position, we have 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.520 evidence of a crime that took place, and we are 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.000 going to prosecute that, why would we give them a break? Now, 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.120 you don't want cops to be able to pick and 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.080 choose who they decide to prosecute who they don't decide 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.880 to arrest in all these things. But this is one 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.720 where if y'all told me they just let the guy 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.280 go where I would just I would be okay with that. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:06.760 His friend is in the hospital, bust it up. I 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.520 don't know if he thinks it's his fault. I know 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.400 he feels bad, of course, but I don't know he 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:11.920 feels like, Wow, I shouldn't have give him that beer 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.520 and then he wouldn't have fallen, or maybe he. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.320 Does or what if? 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.320 What could he have been just as enthusiastic, completely sober. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.120 I mean, I think that's a fair thing as well. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.800 And also, if you're gonna start going after people, now 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.520 go after the people who served the twenty one year 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.840 old a beer and gave him two beers without seeing 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:27.600 a second id. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.360 You know a lot of places are that strict. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.200 Two twenty four hours beer? Is that a big beer? 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:31.600 Yeah? 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.240 And you have to go like if you sometimes when 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.000 you go to the airport or you go to a lounge, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.000 they will only give you or me one drink. To 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.640 give me the second drink, they need to see the 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.920 second person's ID. That is technically what should happen, so 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.320 you could start pointing fingers all around. I just think 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.720 it's it's unnecessary to go ahead and go through this 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.720 legal process with this twenty one year old. It just 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.680 I feel like it's just adding insult to injury. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.480 But again, they following the letter of the law. Well, 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.280 on Thursday, we're gona wrap up our last two stories. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.560 They have to do with commit addresses. Two very different 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.920 commencement addresses. One given by a frog, the oven given 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:10.280 by a plagiarizer. This was at Smith College in Massachusetts. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.800 It's an elite so women's college, isn't it. Yes, yes, 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:17.160 an elite women's college. Well, Evelyn Harris was the graduation speaker. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.280 She's a longtime musician and a vocal coach. But she 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.120 gave the speech and she got an honorary degree as well. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.520 But Rohobes just days later she no longer had that 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.920 honorary degree. She had to relinquish it. I think it's 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:29.280 the right. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.040 Word, call it a dishonorary degree or something like that. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:37.680 Where yeah, she admitted to borrowing much of her speech, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:42.320 and she actually said she borrowed it without the attribution 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.920 typical of and central to the ideals of academic integrity, 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.880 which we said aka is plagiarism. It's kind of mind 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:54.680 blowing that someone who is a teacher, who is all 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:59.560 about education, that is incredible to me that she would 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.880 think it is okay to borrow other people's words to 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.280 inspire students. This is what she had been doing for 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.640 decades on her own. And you, I think you said 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.199 this in the morning run. How is it that she, 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.960 over all those years didn't acquire enough wisdom or anecdotes, 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.760 or just messages of hope or inspiration personal stories that 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.880 could inspire these students to go out in the world. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.919 The fact that she was so lazy and succeedful even 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:26.800 I think lazy. 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.679 I think maybe it caught up with her. She was 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.040 trying to come up with some something profound and deep 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.040 and heavy and sound smart, and maybe she couldn't find 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.240 her own words and couldn't put it the right way 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.679 and just got lazy. That is the best benefit of 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.240 the doubt I can give her, Because anyone that works 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:47.200 in academia, plagiarism is everything you get kicked out of 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.560 school for that, and it's gotten worse because of all 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:53.000 these chat right, yeah, all this stuff, and it's harder 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.119 to monitor these things, and they have services out that 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.680 people will write your stuff for all this stuff. It's everything. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.359 And to think that in that moment, the last act, 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.760 the last speech, the last lesson they get is from 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.119 her on their graduation. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.080 Well maybe the lesson is don't cheat, don't steal, because 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:11.760 if you do, you're gonna get found out. And it's 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.119 humiliating this woman, Evelyn Harris, that unfortunately, is going to 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.199 be what people remember her most for at that college. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.200 And that's not what anybody would want. And it's certainly 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.000 not the lesson you want to teach someone the hard 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:21.600 way like that. 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.360