Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome to the weekend edition of Morning Ron. It is Saturday,
Speaker 1: May twenty fourth. I Amy roboch alongside my.
Speaker 2: Partner TJ Holmes.
Speaker 3: I saw you putting the mic up to your mouth.
Speaker 1: You opened your mouth, and then I thought I'd go
Speaker 1: ahead and pause.
Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to talk just yet. I apologize, miss Robot.
Speaker 2: Please continue.
Speaker 1: No, every week we have stories on the Morning Run
Speaker 1: that keep us talking after the podcast, we have to
Speaker 1: keep moving on because we try to get you all
Speaker 1: the headlines in a succinct way. But man, we have
Speaker 1: more things to say. So every Saturday we're continuing the conversation.
Speaker 1: We're going a little deeper on the stories that got
Speaker 1: us either got us talking or got us worked up
Speaker 1: or both.
Speaker 3: And man, what a week TJ.
Speaker 2: There are some stories that if we continue to follow,
Speaker 2: and then some just blew our minds. Some came out
Speaker 2: of nowhere, and some were fun. Some had us. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there's so much we do. We try to keep our
Speaker 2: morning runs to twenty minutes or so, but there's so
Speaker 2: much we would love to keep saying. And this is
Speaker 2: a chance to give us to say it, So we
Speaker 2: kind of honing in on some of these stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and hope it sparks a conversation with you as well,
Speaker 1: get you thinking. And I do want to point this out.
Speaker 1: We are deliberately leaving out any Diddy trial coverage because
Speaker 1: we have an entirely other podcast for that. So if
Speaker 1: you want to get caught up on Diddy, check out
Speaker 1: our feed, because we actually have Diddy wraps every single
Speaker 1: day after trial to get you up to speed on
Speaker 1: all that's going on with that trial.
Speaker 2: So we don't have any more to say on that.
Speaker 3: No, so we're no Didty news here.
Speaker 1: We get and run down on this podcast, but check
Speaker 1: out our other ones if you want all of that,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot to digest. All right, We're going
Speaker 1: to start with Man, a story that captivated us all
Speaker 1: week long and it's going to continue into next week likely.
Speaker 1: But those escaped inmates out of New Orleans. Initially ten
Speaker 1: inmates were able to get out of jail, and some
Speaker 1: of these were extremely violent offenders, one of whom has
Speaker 1: even been convicted of murder, but some of them waiting
Speaker 1: on murder charges.
Speaker 3: But they pulled a toilet off.
Speaker 1: The wall and escaped through a hole and left a
Speaker 1: fun little message for guards.
Speaker 2: It was that it was kind of bizarre that it
Speaker 2: was that easy. We've been talking about it all week.
Speaker 2: They're still in the roung very dangerous, and New Orleans
Speaker 2: is on edge right now. But for arrest have now
Speaker 2: been made in this case, the maintenance guy who cut
Speaker 2: off the water, and then three women who helped the
Speaker 2: men in various ways before and after the escape. The
Speaker 2: escape the maintenance guy is the one that I mean,
Speaker 2: I chuckled a little bit. None of this should be funny.
Speaker 2: But his story initially was, Hey, they were threatening me,
Speaker 2: so I didn't have a choice but to do this.
Speaker 2: Then he got a lawyer, and his lawyer came out
Speaker 2: to the public and said, well, it wasn't exactly that way.
Speaker 3: Which one do you buy neither? How about that.
Speaker 2: The second one where he said he was just doing his.
Speaker 3: Job an overflowing toilet.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was told that they needed to cut the
Speaker 2: water off and he did it. Boom bam boom. Is
Speaker 2: that not reasonable?
Speaker 1: No, it's not, because here's mister Sterling Williams. When his
Speaker 1: story changed as to why he turned off the water,
Speaker 1: which allowed the inmates to pull the.
Speaker 3: Toilet off the wall.
Speaker 1: He now says a guard told him, Hey, there's a
Speaker 1: toilet overflowing.
Speaker 3: You need to take care of that. So that's when
Speaker 3: he shut off the water.
Speaker 1: Coincidentally, a little while after, he claims, one of those
Speaker 1: inmates threatened him with a shank to turn the water off.
Speaker 1: So it just happened to be that way. But when pressed,
Speaker 1: he couldn't give the guard's name. He couldn't remember who
Speaker 1: told him to turn off the water. It's I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: this is an obvious.
Speaker 2: You don't know which one it was. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was a very traumatic event going on. They say people
Speaker 2: go through trump and they often have memory loss, so
Speaker 2: you can't remember anything.
Speaker 3: There should have been a defense lawyer.
Speaker 2: Not only to be a defense law I just can
Speaker 2: see things both ways. Now we smile this a little bit,
Speaker 2: and I'll be honest. Over the years, there have been escaped.
Speaker 2: We have covered, especially in local news and whatnot, offenders
Speaker 2: with various backgrounds and crimes they've been charged with. I
Speaker 2: generally root for someone who gets out of jail. And
Speaker 2: I say that because I'm not mad at the inmate.
Speaker 2: It's not your fault if somebody locks you up in jail.
Speaker 2: Your job then twenty four hours is to try to
Speaker 2: get out. Everybody wants to be free, so you can't
Speaker 2: be mad at them for wanting to be free. You
Speaker 2: can be mad as hell at this jail because you didn't.
Speaker 2: You told me this morning they'll convicted as a convicted
Speaker 2: killer who got out through a hole behind a damn toilet.
Speaker 1: Exactly and left a message saying too easy.
Speaker 3: Lol.
Speaker 1: But now this is real consequences because two of the
Speaker 1: prosecutors have had to leave the area because they are
Speaker 1: fearing for their lives and their families' lives. Witnesses have
Speaker 1: had to be relocated. People are scared, as you might
Speaker 1: imagine if you live or if you're even visiting the
Speaker 1: New Orleans area to know these dangerous men are not
Speaker 1: only on the.
Speaker 3: Loose, but desperate to stay free.
Speaker 1: So or knows what would happen if you encountered them.
Speaker 3: You now have.
Speaker 1: And it took them a couple of days for the
Speaker 1: Louisiana State Police to even say, hey, these men are
Speaker 1: armed and dangerous, and yes, now they're going after the
Speaker 1: folks who are aiding and abetting them to stay out
Speaker 1: and to stay free.
Speaker 3: Because this is so.
Speaker 1: Serious and here's another glaring issue with the story. It's
Speaker 1: now come out the timeline of what happened these inmates,
Speaker 1: because they have it on video. Escaped at one am.
Speaker 1: They had them on video, no one was watching the
Speaker 1: video monitors, no security cameras were being monitored. So they
Speaker 1: have them on video running. I'm sure you've seen it
Speaker 1: if you've been watching television coverage of this, and no
Speaker 1: one knew they were gone until eight thirty in the
Speaker 1: morning when they did a cell check. Then at eight
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning when they realized ten dangerous criminals
Speaker 1: are on the loose New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Two hours goes.
Speaker 1: By before local police are notified to start looking for
Speaker 1: these men. That is that is inexcusable, and so it
Speaker 1: is very likely and from the local officials already saying
Speaker 1: heads are going to roll for this and they should.
Speaker 2: Maybe criminally for what has taken place. So this is Look,
Speaker 2: this is a scary time for the folks in New
Speaker 2: Orleans right now because they can tell the guys who
Speaker 2: are not having left town and they have nothing to
Speaker 2: lose around around town. So that's one that certainly it
Speaker 2: continues to be a story after a full week. Another
Speaker 2: story on Tuesday had people's attention that one of the
Speaker 2: January sixth rioters is now being given five million dollars
Speaker 2: at least her family is. We're talking about Ashley Babbitt,
Speaker 2: you might remember that name. She was shot and kills
Speaker 2: she was trying to there's video, I think a pretty
Speaker 2: famous video at this point of her trying to climb
Speaker 2: through a broken window that was going to the Speaker's lobby.
Speaker 2: Her family gets five million dollars, essentially a wrongful death
Speaker 2: settlement here. This set a lot of people, including the
Speaker 2: Capitol police, like this.
Speaker 3: Is wrong exactly.
Speaker 1: So this didn't go over so well with a lot
Speaker 1: of folks, especially the law enforcement folks who were there
Speaker 1: and desperately trying to protect not just the Capitol but
Speaker 1: the congressmen and women inside the Capital who were, you know,
Speaker 1: hunkered down and fearing for their lives. But yes, that hallway,
Speaker 1: that Speaker's lobby that she was getting into through the
Speaker 1: broken window that would have given her and there were
Speaker 1: plenty of others behind her access to the House of
Speaker 1: Representatives chamber.
Speaker 3: That's scary.
Speaker 1: And the Capitol police officer's duty is to protect the
Speaker 1: lives of the people inside. So the US Capitol Police
Speaker 1: officer who shot and killed Babbitt was cleared of any
Speaker 1: criminal wrongdoing in the incident. However, the family sued for
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars and the Trump administration decided to settle
Speaker 1: with them for five million. And yes, the US Capitol
Speaker 1: Police chief said that it was disappointing and they were
Speaker 1: certainly upset with the decision. And a lot of folks
Speaker 1: will have different opinions about whether or not she was
Speaker 1: a criminal and a rioter or she was a patriot,
Speaker 1: and you know, you see where the Trump administration has
Speaker 1: fallen on those lines, but it certainly doesn't sit well
Speaker 1: with a lot of law enforcement who do put their
Speaker 1: lives on the line each and every day to protect
Speaker 1: the people inside that capital.
Speaker 2: On Wednesday, we had a story. This is a this
Speaker 2: is an ongoing story. This one has to do with,
Speaker 2: of course, former President Biden announced he does have an
Speaker 2: aggressive form of prostate cancer. It was not caught in
Speaker 2: his time as president, but it metastasized to his bone.
Speaker 2: So this had been going on for years and years
Speaker 2: and years, and everybody was wondering, well, what does how
Speaker 2: do we not know that this guy who was monitored
Speaker 2: more than any patient on Earth probably, how do you
Speaker 2: not know he has prostate cancer? And they came out
Speaker 2: and say his last known one and this got everybody talk.
Speaker 2: And the last time that his eighty two year old
Speaker 2: man had a prostate screening was back in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: It's funny because the second time you said that the
Speaker 1: last time he had a test, we don't even know
Speaker 1: if that's true. As you point out, the last known
Speaker 1: test result was in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: That's the problem. What does that mean? Last known?
Speaker 1: It sounds evasive, It doesn't sound transparent, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: sound it sounds like it's a little trickery with words
Speaker 1: so as to not completely but to not completely tell
Speaker 1: the whole story.
Speaker 2: Last known? Would he know? Would he know the last
Speaker 2: time he got a screening?
Speaker 1: Well, that's unclear, I mean, but I would think at
Speaker 1: the very least the physician to the president of the
Speaker 1: United States should know. And a lot of folks were
Speaker 1: talking about malpractice that if he wasn't being tested for this,
Speaker 1: even though the federal guidelines say once you're seventy you
Speaker 1: don't need to be tested every year because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of false positives and a lot of unnecessary testing.
Speaker 1: But that is for the average seventy year old. And
Speaker 1: I still believe if you're seventy and you'd like to
Speaker 1: be tested, you can be. You can ask for it,
Speaker 1: you can request it, and I would think as president
Speaker 1: of the United States, that would be of the utmost concern.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't feel right that this wasn't happening. It
Speaker 1: feels weird how they've worded it. And have we heard
Speaker 1: from the physician himself. I mean, I would like if
Speaker 1: they really want full transparency and they want to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we just didn't do it because it wasn't under the
Speaker 1: federal guidelines.
Speaker 3: I like to see this doctor actually.
Speaker 1: Come out and say that we didn't test him for
Speaker 1: or this, because we haven't heard that definitively.
Speaker 2: Well, the result they went back and they have checked
Speaker 2: his they could put them out publicly listed they put
Speaker 2: it out publicly. Yes, So if then you got a problem.
Speaker 2: Then if you did test him and then you weren't
Speaker 2: putting it out as a part of his medical report,
Speaker 2: that's the problem. Why did you leave it off? So
Speaker 2: you have to assume it was not done. So if
Speaker 2: it was not done, why it should have been done. Right,
Speaker 2: let's do it that person.
Speaker 1: All, every single person who has looked at this, who
Speaker 1: has a medical degree much smarter than the two of
Speaker 1: us when it comes to what you need to do
Speaker 1: to make sure someone is healthy and to ensure that
Speaker 1: they're fit to be president of the United States.
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about, President of the United States.
Speaker 2: To say, well, you know, the guidelines say we shouldn't
Speaker 2: test them, so we skipped. It's that's got to be
Speaker 2: bull Yeah, there's no way, got to be bullshit.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense and to have now
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate because.
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't sound like that he had any
Speaker 1: idea that he had stage four cancer, because they did
Speaker 1: come out and say that prior to Friday last Friday,
Speaker 1: President Biden has never been diagnosed with prostate cancer. Now
Speaker 1: that is a very clear, definitive statement.
Speaker 2: So a Jeohnvre you share, there's no nuance in that one.
Speaker 3: Right, there isn't Friday Friday, he.
Speaker 2: Had never been diagnosed with prostate cancer. So that that
Speaker 2: means we just found out.
Speaker 1: Yes, So that would make sense that the doctor, the
Speaker 1: physician did not test him like that.
Speaker 3: I just can't get my head around that.
Speaker 2: I can't. Maybe they are absolutely following the guide that
Speaker 2: we need an explanation for that one, but that just
Speaker 2: seems that's bizarre.
Speaker 1: The guidelines when I found my cancer at the age
Speaker 1: of forty were that a woman with no prior family
Speaker 1: history should have to have a mammogram until they were fifty.
Speaker 1: I chose to do it for a work assignment, as
Speaker 1: could any other woman in her forties. She could say, Hey,
Speaker 1: I would like to get a mammogram earlier than the
Speaker 1: federal guidelines suggest.
Speaker 3: That led to my cancer diagnosis. So I'm just who
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the president saying, ah, you know what,
Speaker 1: you're outside of the guideline, so let's not do the test.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe that blows my mind.
Speaker 2: We said all the time people sometimes you don't go
Speaker 2: to the doctor because you don't want to know. Maybe
Speaker 2: they didn't want to know because maybe they knew they
Speaker 2: would then have to put it out. Maybe that was
Speaker 2: the case. I don't know, But they're leaving us all
Speaker 2: to guests and wonder. But what we're getting cannot just get.
Speaker 2: It's hard. I want to trust and believe what they
Speaker 2: put out. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: You know so many yeah, so many people don't trust
Speaker 1: our government as it is. I would say a large
Speaker 1: portion of people don't. This does not go anyway and
Speaker 1: helping that feeling that somehow we only get.
Speaker 3: Information that they deem worthy of us. Knowing about.
Speaker 2: Another story we talked a lot about, folks, remember that
Speaker 2: the video certainly of the fan at the Pittsburgh Pirates
Speaker 2: game falling over railing and falling onto the playing field
Speaker 2: while the game was still going on. He is still
Speaker 2: recovering from some really serious injuries. But rose this it felt,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's the letter of the law, but
Speaker 2: maybe not the spirit of the law. Someone has been
Speaker 2: arrested now for giving that man who fell alcohol. Now
Speaker 2: why would that be the case? Robes Because it turns
Speaker 2: out the man who fell is technically a minor.
Speaker 1: He's twenty, and the man who's been charged is his friend.
Speaker 3: Who's twenty one. Now I have not found what.
Speaker 1: Their birthdays are exactly, but let's just guess that they're
Speaker 1: within months of each other. So yes, officially, Cavin Markwood
Speaker 1: who fell and got seriously injured, is twenty, and technically
Speaker 1: his friend Ethan Kirkwood, who got charged is twenty one.
Speaker 1: But do we really think it serves any purpose to
Speaker 1: then charge this twenty one year old friend of his
Speaker 1: with providing alcohol to a miner when there's already been
Speaker 1: enough consequences as it is. I'm sure he feels terrible
Speaker 1: and this isn't what anyone want to happen. And there
Speaker 1: are also other issues. It seems like they were able
Speaker 1: to point to him having two beers. Who knows what
Speaker 1: they consume beforehand, who knows how much they actually had.
Speaker 1: We haven't been given a blood alcohol level or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But to me, no matter what state you're in,
Speaker 1: if you just jump up and cheer on your your
Speaker 1: favorite team and you are able to be catapulted over
Speaker 1: a railing, that railing is an issue more than whether
Speaker 1: or not you're a friend of a couple months older
Speaker 1: senior than you gave you a beer or two.
Speaker 2: The fall looked, it looked awful when you see the
Speaker 2: video of how he came, I mean he catapulted it
Speaker 2: out of that seat, just excited in the excitement of
Speaker 2: the game. It felt. From law enforcement's position, we have
Speaker 2: evidence of a crime that took place, and we are
Speaker 2: going to prosecute that, why would we give them a break? Now,
Speaker 2: you don't want cops to be able to pick and
Speaker 2: choose who they decide to prosecute who they don't decide
Speaker 2: to arrest in all these things. But this is one
Speaker 2: where if y'all told me they just let the guy
Speaker 2: go where I would just I would be okay with that.
Speaker 2: His friend is in the hospital, bust it up. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he thinks it's his fault. I know
Speaker 2: he feels bad, of course, but I don't know he
Speaker 2: feels like, Wow, I shouldn't have give him that beer
Speaker 2: and then he wouldn't have fallen, or maybe he.
Speaker 3: Does or what if?
Speaker 1: What could he have been just as enthusiastic, completely sober.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a fair thing as well.
Speaker 1: And also, if you're gonna start going after people, now
Speaker 1: go after the people who served the twenty one year
Speaker 1: old a beer and gave him two beers without seeing
Speaker 1: a second id.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of places are that strict.
Speaker 2: Two twenty four hours beer? Is that a big beer?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you have to go like if you sometimes when
Speaker 1: you go to the airport or you go to a lounge,
Speaker 1: they will only give you or me one drink. To
Speaker 1: give me the second drink, they need to see the
Speaker 1: second person's ID. That is technically what should happen, so
Speaker 1: you could start pointing fingers all around. I just think
Speaker 1: it's it's unnecessary to go ahead and go through this
Speaker 1: legal process with this twenty one year old. It just
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just adding insult to injury.
Speaker 2: But again, they following the letter of the law. Well,
Speaker 2: on Thursday, we're gona wrap up our last two stories.
Speaker 2: They have to do with commit addresses. Two very different
Speaker 2: commencement addresses. One given by a frog, the oven given
Speaker 2: by a plagiarizer. This was at Smith College in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: It's an elite so women's college, isn't it. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: an elite women's college. Well, Evelyn Harris was the graduation speaker.
Speaker 2: She's a longtime musician and a vocal coach. But she
Speaker 2: gave the speech and she got an honorary degree as well.
Speaker 2: But Rohobes just days later she no longer had that
Speaker 2: honorary degree. She had to relinquish it. I think it's
Speaker 2: the right.
Speaker 1: Word, call it a dishonorary degree or something like that.
Speaker 1: Where yeah, she admitted to borrowing much of her speech,
Speaker 1: and she actually said she borrowed it without the attribution
Speaker 1: typical of and central to the ideals of academic integrity,
Speaker 1: which we said aka is plagiarism. It's kind of mind
Speaker 1: blowing that someone who is a teacher, who is all
Speaker 1: about education, that is incredible to me that she would
Speaker 1: think it is okay to borrow other people's words to
Speaker 1: inspire students. This is what she had been doing for
Speaker 1: decades on her own. And you, I think you said
Speaker 1: this in the morning run. How is it that she,
Speaker 1: over all those years didn't acquire enough wisdom or anecdotes,
Speaker 1: or just messages of hope or inspiration personal stories that
Speaker 1: could inspire these students to go out in the world.
Speaker 1: The fact that she was so lazy and succeedful even
Speaker 1: I think lazy.
Speaker 2: I think maybe it caught up with her. She was
Speaker 2: trying to come up with some something profound and deep
Speaker 2: and heavy and sound smart, and maybe she couldn't find
Speaker 2: her own words and couldn't put it the right way
Speaker 2: and just got lazy. That is the best benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt I can give her, Because anyone that works
Speaker 2: in academia, plagiarism is everything you get kicked out of
Speaker 2: school for that, and it's gotten worse because of all
Speaker 2: these chat right, yeah, all this stuff, and it's harder
Speaker 2: to monitor these things, and they have services out that
Speaker 2: people will write your stuff for all this stuff. It's everything.
Speaker 2: And to think that in that moment, the last act,
Speaker 2: the last speech, the last lesson they get is from
Speaker 2: her on their graduation.
Speaker 1: Well maybe the lesson is don't cheat, don't steal, because
Speaker 1: if you do, you're gonna get found out. And it's
Speaker 1: humiliating this woman, Evelyn Harris, that unfortunately, is going to
Speaker 1: be what people remember her most for at that college.
Speaker 1: And that's not what anybody would want. And it's certainly
Speaker 1: not the lesson you want to teach someone the hard
Speaker 1: way like that.
Speaker 3: Have you given a commencement addressed before?
Speaker 2: We given a couple before.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I could go give one right now because
Speaker 2: we have enough life experience that that woman should have
Speaker 2: been able to stand up there just start spitting.
Speaker 1: And also just I don't every commencement address is different,
Speaker 1: but I was given five to seven minutes, and I
Speaker 1: think they usually don't go longer than ten minutes because
Speaker 1: it's a length maybe fifteen at the most. You're not
Speaker 1: having to go ahead and give a dissertation for an hour.
Speaker 3: This is this is impactful.
Speaker 1: Your words matter, and you get to say it pretty succinctly.
Speaker 1: So it just is mind blowing to me that she
Speaker 1: couldn't come up with something on her own.
Speaker 2: She was outdone in the commencement addressed department by a
Speaker 2: damn frog the hand of his butt. This is the story,
Speaker 2: the other one that really really got us going. Kermit
Speaker 2: the Frog gave the commencement address at the University of
Speaker 2: Maryland this week. Maryland is where Jim Hinson, the creative,
Speaker 2: the publics went pub Pits went to college. They actually
Speaker 2: have a statue of Kermit the Frog and of Jim
Speaker 2: Hinson on campus, so he has ties. But the question
Speaker 2: still is, if you just spent one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: on your child going to school, they're graduating, and their
Speaker 2: speaker is a puppet is a frog, would you be
Speaker 2: okay with that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I might just for just to see what happens.
Speaker 1: I'd be interested, but I don't know how inspired I
Speaker 1: would be, and I might be a little irritated. I
Speaker 1: just myself sat through some commencement address speeches last week
Speaker 1: as my daughter graduated from college.
Speaker 3: And you look forward to that. I got inspired.
Speaker 1: We had the amazing Molly Shannon give the one at
Speaker 1: NYU and she was phenomenal. It was personal, it was
Speaker 1: interesting a frog, you know, and also just his voice
Speaker 1: to take him seriously as he's speaking into the microphone.
Speaker 1: You listened to the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't find a transcript of it anywhere, so laughing,
Speaker 2: I took the time and listened to the I listened
Speaker 2: to a frog a ten fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: Were you inspired?
Speaker 2: He has some good nuggets, is the thing. I was
Speaker 2: surprised at how much his jokes did not land.
Speaker 3: They were dad jokes.
Speaker 2: They were There were dad jokes. There were crickets for
Speaker 2: the frog, a lot of them. But how does he
Speaker 2: handle I mean as a frog? I mean he can't.
Speaker 2: He didn't get emotional about it. Obviously, he didn't freak
Speaker 2: out because he's frog.
Speaker 1: Did he pivot or react when no one laughed at
Speaker 1: his bad dad jokes?
Speaker 2: Whoever was doing the voice ever, it was live, you
Speaker 2: could hear him.
Speaker 1: He made.
Speaker 3: It didn't work, he made.
Speaker 2: But he is a star of stage, screen and swamp
Speaker 2: is what they say. But the best line I told
Speaker 2: you there was. He did have some good nuggets. But
Speaker 2: the best line. Do you agree that's a good line?
Speaker 1: It was the best of me yocre lines.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to I don't mean to throw hate it, Kermit,
Speaker 1: but but you are.
Speaker 3: But I just have to be honest here.
Speaker 2: What with the content or from the delivery mechanism of
Speaker 2: this content?
Speaker 1: You know what the content, because even the delivery mechanism
Speaker 1: it would take me a while to get over to watch.
Speaker 1: But if there was some real, h inspirational, thoughtful personal
Speaker 1: this all seemed kind of the It was like the
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. Like he went and made the hog
Speaker 1: joke about you know, miss Piggy, and then he made
Speaker 1: you know, the jokes about just you know, it's froggy
Speaker 1: out instead of foggy out Like it wasn't clever.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the nice the good lines. Always be
Speaker 2: on the lookout for old friends you just met. I
Speaker 2: love that line.
Speaker 3: That is a good one.
Speaker 2: See okay, Now, if you've heard that and it was,
Speaker 2: if I told you it was delivered by some philosopher
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty years ago, you go, wow, that's good.
Speaker 2: But if it's Kermit, you got a problem with it.
Speaker 1: It does change the messager does change the message.
Speaker 2: No, we all know it does.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 1: How about we leave on a high note because this
Speaker 1: was your favorite line from Kermit the Frog, and we
Speaker 1: will end the podcast with this. It'll be like our
Speaker 1: quote of the day, except for it comes from Kermit
Speaker 1: at his commencement dress.
Speaker 2: Well for you in it, because we end in a
Speaker 2: high note, and I think this other nugget you just
Speaker 2: reminded me of might sound like a low note. A
Speaker 2: part of the argument with him being there and any
Speaker 2: criticism that did kind of boil up. It seemed like
Speaker 2: a cop out from the university. Like with all going on,
Speaker 2: everybody's nervous as hell about what somebody's going to do
Speaker 2: in a commencement address, so they're gonna try to say
Speaker 2: something political, make some kind of a statement about a war,
Speaker 2: and all these things. Kermit, we knew what we're gonna
Speaker 2: get is gonna be safe, is not going to ruffle
Speaker 2: anybody's feathers. And there was some argument that they just
Speaker 2: made a very safe choice, which wasn't announced until March
Speaker 2: I think it was, so it was fairly recent.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to let anybody know, so they couldn't
Speaker 1: complain very long.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but that's but I don't know. If I think
Speaker 2: about all those years of college and you sit up there,
Speaker 2: and if I had miss Piggy giving.
Speaker 1: Me a speech for the hogs, that would have been
Speaker 1: actually funny.
Speaker 2: That would not that would not be funny.
Speaker 3: See, when it's your commencement, you don't want a puppet.
Speaker 2: I don't, But I'm still saying he had good stuff
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: All right, here was the line we'll leave you with
Speaker 1: from Kermit the Frog at the Smith No wait, Maryland
Speaker 1: University of Maryland commencement. I mix up the commencement at
Speaker 1: the University of Maryland commencement. All right, as you prepare
Speaker 1: to take this big leap into real life, here's a
Speaker 1: little advice. If you're willing to listen to a frog,
Speaker 1: rather than jumping over someone to get what you want,
Speaker 1: consider reaching out your hand and taking the leap side
Speaker 1: by side, because life is better when we leap together.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kermit. Come on, so let's get out of here.
Speaker 2: I want you right beside me, and we're gonna leap
Speaker 2: our butts on down the hall.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see that.
Speaker 1: All right, have a wonderful weekend, everybody
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