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This episode 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: was originally broadcast on August fourth, twenty twenty three. Woodland 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Park is about a thirty minute drive northwest of Colorado Springs, Colorado. 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Nestled in the Rocky Mountains, It's home to about eight 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: thousand people. It's a small town in every sense of 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: the word. 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: They're just deer everywhere. It's safe. There's just no crime, 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: and that's quiet. Everywhere you go, you're running into people 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: you know and everything. 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: It's fantastic. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: It's one of those small towns that the national media 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: typically ignores. So when NBC News came to Woodland Park, 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: some began to raise an Eyebrow. 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: Woodland Park, Colorado, a tight knit conservative mountain community has 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: grown so divided. High school junior Jacob D. Smith says 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: he no longer recognizes his hometown. 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Why are the national media descending on this small town. 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: I'm Patrick Carelci and. 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 5: I'm Adriana Cortes. 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show. 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 5: This is not another talk show covering the day's news. 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 5: We're all about telling stories. 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Stories. Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories. 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 5: The media mocks stories about everyday Americans at the Globalist Ignore. 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: You can think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries, 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: and we promise only one thing, the truth. Welcome to 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Red Pilled America. 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 5: People often ask us, in one form or another, what 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 5: can I do to help fix America? It's probably the 38 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 5: most common question we get since launching Red Pilled America. 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 5: In response, we've often encouraged people to get involved in storytelling. Filmmaking, novels, music, art, 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 5: and storytelling. Podcasts like ours are the things that drive 41 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: and establish American culture. And it's the kind of thing 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: that a single individual can do on their own. And 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 5: if that isn't your cup of tea, as We've often 44 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 5: said you can support like folk who are on the 45 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 5: storytelling frontlines, but that advice doesn't work for many adults 46 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 5: who want to get hands on in fixing America but 47 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 5: may not find the arts to be in their wheelhouse. 48 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 5: For those people, which route should they take? What can 49 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: folks do to help save America? To find the answer, 50 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: We're going to tell the story of a few people 51 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 5: that became sick and tired of watching the destruction of 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 5: perhaps the most important institution in America, and they decided 53 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: to do something about it. If Americans all across the 54 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 5: nation followed their lead, this country would be on the 55 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: road to recovery in no time. 56 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: Dave Illingworth is a Texas transplant to Woodland Park, Colorado. 57 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: I moved here five years ago. 58 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: That's Dave. 59 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: This town Patrick, if you come visit it, you're probably 60 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: gonna move here. I mean, it's so beautiful. I mean 61 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: what the park is really? I mean I shouldn't tell anybody. 62 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: It's a truly hidden gem. 63 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: But Dave learned that this small town was lacking in 64 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: one crucial area. 65 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Most people do move to small towns for two things, 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: as the schools in the safety. But nobody I met ever, 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: moved here for the. 68 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: Schools, and like with most good parents, education was important 69 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: to Dave and his wife Katie. They're both veterans and lawyers, 70 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: so by default, academics is something they value. Woodland Park 71 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: was a bit challenged in that department, but Dave and 72 00:04:18,039 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: Katy made the best of it. They enrolled their school 73 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: aged kids in a local school. But, like so many 74 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: other parents all across the country, an unexpected crisis hit 75 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: Woodland Park in early twenty twenty that would eventually expose 76 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: a serious problem. 77 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 6: Colorado goes on lockdown in nine hours time. 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: Governor Jared Polus has ordered all Colorado's to stay home 79 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: starting at six am tomorrow to slow the spread of 80 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen. 81 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 6: Governor Jared Polus didn't mince words, stay at home or 82 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 6: thousands of people could die. 83 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 7: When we're talking about saving lives, we're not talking about 84 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 7: one or two lives. We're talking about thousands of Colorado's lives, 85 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 7: perhaps tens of thousands. 86 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 6: The governor says that when this all goes into effect 87 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 6: tomorrow morning, the only reasons that you should be outside 88 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 6: of your house is if you work for a critical 89 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 6: business or conducting essential activities. He says that we're at 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 6: a point where this is necessary. 91 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: And of course included in that long list of non 92 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: essential activities was the education of our children. 93 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: The schools up here, you know, they shut down in 94 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: spring and twenty twenty, like everywhere. 95 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Else, two weeks turned to four, then ten. By the 96 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: time the twenty twenty twenty twenty one school year came around, 97 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: they remained closed. So school district after school district began 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: an entirely new experiment. 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: The remote learning stuff was extremely frustrating. 100 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: David Katie have four kids, two boys and two girls. 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Their school age children all shifted to remote learning where 102 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: they had to log into their classroom from their homes 103 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: through a computer. 104 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: And what became a great concern to us was that 105 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: the Wooden Park School District, which they were all on, 106 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: this sort of screen based learning program called Summit Lar Learning, 107 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: and it goes by different names in different places and 108 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: things like that, but it's essentially a curriculum that emphasizes 109 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: using your Chrome books and getting lessons from YouTube and 110 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: things like that. It just was all but impossible for 111 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: my oldest one, and so my wife is like, hey, 112 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: I think we're going to need to move because all 113 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: the schools up here do this, and we could go, 114 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, twenty minutes down the mountain to the springs, 115 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: and there's tons and tons of choices. 116 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: There, those choices being charter schools. Colorado has one of 117 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: the highest concentrations of public charter schools in America. 118 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, Patrick, I did not 119 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: know what a charter school was at the time, right 120 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: you hear about them? You know, I and my kids 121 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: were young enough that I was new to the whole 122 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: schooling experience. 123 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: Really. 124 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: I mean, my oldest was like in second or third 125 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: grade at that time. 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: So Dave and Katie did some research and in the 127 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: process they learned about a promising new project in Woodland. 128 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,559 Speaker 2: Park, aware through the paper that there is a group 129 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: of parents up here that are trying to start a 130 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: charter school called Merit Academy, and it's going to be 131 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: a classical based curriculum and they're going to emphasize you know, 132 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: textbooks and writing and writing cursive and things like that. 133 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: And so we thought that was a really great idea 134 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: and something that we were going to be interested in 135 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: for our oldest. 136 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Now, charter schools in their neck of the Woods need 137 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: to apply for authorization from the school district. 138 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: My wife is a lawyer to she's known over at 139 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: the elementary school where the kids are going. So the 140 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: elementary school principle invites my wife to be part of 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: reviewing this charter application. There's a committee, it's called the 142 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: District Accountability Committee, and it's made up of parents and teachers, administrators, 143 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: and you got like a business owner, right, you know, 144 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be this cross section of the community. 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: It's actually in Colorado state law. 146 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: You've got to have this, and the law requires that 147 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: this committee review the application first and they make a 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 2: recommendation to the school board. 149 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: However, the school board is not legally bound by this recommendation, 150 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: but typically if the application meets all of the necessary 151 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: criteria and the parents want the charter school to happen, 152 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: it becomes hard for a school board, which is beholden 153 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: to the community, to deny the charter. Dave's wife, Katie, 154 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: eventually took up the offer and got involved in the committee. 155 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: So Katie gets on there and goes to the first meeting, 156 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: and I think it's all remoted this time, right, And 157 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: you got somebody who's there letting everybody know, Hey. 158 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: This is what we're gonna be doing, is we're gonna 159 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: be looking as the goal here. 160 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: And there's one lady who, after being explained what's going on, 161 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: raised her hand and says, well, can we just say 162 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: no now? And they're like, no, we're gonna have to, 163 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: you know, go through this. 164 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Non charter public school administrations are usually adversarial to charter schools. 165 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: For every student a charter school siphons off, the school 166 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: district receives less money from the government from the outset. 167 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: It appeared that some of the committee members shared this 168 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: of version to charter schools. 169 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: As merrit Academy's charter approval process progressed, a few other 170 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: red flags began to surface. 171 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 8: Normally, charter applications will take maybe three to four months. 172 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 5: That's Cassie Kimberl, a Woodland Park resident at the time. 173 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 8: This one took over five months and they had over 174 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 8: twenty just meetings, whether it was a public meeting, a 175 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 8: town hall, a special board meeting. 176 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: It appeared that the committee had their thumb on the scale. Again, 177 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 5: Dave Illingworth. 178 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: It became apparent to Katie in the whole process that 179 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: you know, they were there to make it look okay, 180 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: like yeah, we've checked the boxes, but the decision was 181 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: already baked. 182 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: Into the cake. 183 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: Eventually, the committee issued its recommendation. 184 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: The Accountability Committee says, don't charter them. They don't have buses, 185 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: they don't have hot meals and everything. And the parents 186 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: behind the charter application are like, what are you talking about. 187 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: You can't penalize this for that. 188 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: In Colorado law, you can't penalize a charter school because 189 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 2: they don't have like a school bussing system where they 190 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: don't have like a cafeteria system to provide meals to everybody. 191 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: Because the law understands a lot of them are startups. 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: They don't come with infrastructure you're going to. 193 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: Right out of the gate. 194 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: And so the next step is it goes to the 195 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: school board, and the school board hires an independent expert 196 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: to tell them whether or not this thing passes Mustard right. 197 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: The expert comebacks and says, yeah, you should charter them. 198 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: They're meeting all the factors under law for charter and 199 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: number one is public demand. And you've got families from 200 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: your own community who are wanting to do this, and 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: the plan they've got is pretty good you guys should 202 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: charter them. And in fact, if you don't charter them, 203 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: they have the right to appeal to the state board, 204 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: and from what we're seeing, if they were do so, 205 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: they're going to win the appeal. So you guys are 206 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: gonna spend money, You're gonna spend time. 207 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: But the school board went against the independent expert anyway 208 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 5: and unanimously voted to deny Merit academies charter. 209 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: And you know, you take that, you take my wife's 210 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: experience with the committee, and you're like, yeah, this was rigged, 211 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: And that really became kind of a last straw for 212 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people. 213 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: Parents felt the school board were ignoring their concerns, and 214 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 5: there were other signs that the school board was failing 215 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 5: kids and parents. 216 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: Enrollment numbers have been on a more than ten year slide. 217 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: Back in the two thousands, they had like three thousand 218 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: kids enrolled here. 219 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 5: By the twenty twenty one twenty twenty two school year, 220 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: there were only around eighteen hundred. 221 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: Every one of our school buildings was fifty percent empty. 222 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: And when I got into it, I'm like, how much 223 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: longer can we go on like this before we have 224 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: basically a catastrophic decision to make, what do we have 225 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: another year or two where this continues this way, that 226 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: we'd have to close the school, probably one of our 227 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: elementary schools, and people are going to end up being 228 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: laid off. And this school district is the biggest employer 229 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: in Teller County. 230 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 5: Teller County is the county Woodland Park resides in again, 231 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 5: Cassie Kimberl. 232 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 8: And then around twenty twenty one, there was this newspaper 233 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 8: article from the Colorado side. 234 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 5: The March twenty twenty one article was written by a 235 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 5: teacher from Teller County. She boasted about how she brought 236 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 5: Black Lives Matter lessons into her kindergarten classroom and painted 237 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 5: Teller County residents as Confederate flag waving rednecks. The article 238 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 5: angered many Woodland Park parents, Like Cassie, it. 239 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 8: Is sixty percent more Republican. Here's sixty thirty. So for Colorado, 240 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 8: they're very proud. It's a mountainous town and they're very 241 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 8: proud to be read. So when you have teachers writing 242 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 8: articles depicting that of you know, the parents that live 243 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 8: here and she's teaching kids, there's going to be some conflict. 244 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 5: The school board's charter school denial, the COVID policies that 245 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: made mass mandatory on students, schools being shut down for 246 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 5: just a few cases of COVID, and now this teacher 247 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 5: bringing BLM lessons into a kindergarten class. Woodland Park residents 248 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: felt like the school board was not representing them. Parents 249 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 5: had had enough. They decided to put a slate of 250 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 5: candidates together to take over the Woodland Park school Board. 251 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 8: So that really started reaching out, getting a slate advocating 252 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 8: for that. Seems, we can get some people to come 253 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 8: to the table and work together to try to see 254 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 8: what we can do about fixing your schools. 255 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: And that's when they learned a closely held secret. 256 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: Woodland Park had not had an election of any kind 257 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: for school board in more than ten years. 258 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 5: What was happening was the teachers' unions and the school 259 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: administration quietly took advantage of a loophole in the school 260 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 5: board election process and used that loophole to install people 261 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 5: that aligned with them rather than with the parents. Dave 262 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 5: would eventually figure out the process for how most people 263 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 5: were getting placed on the school board. 264 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: You'd have to like get yourself on the ballot, but 265 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: that takes like seventy five signatures. That's easy to do 266 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: when you have somebody pass it around at the school, right, 267 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: and then if nobody else filed to be on the ballot, 268 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: you know it's canceled, right, And that's that's what had 269 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: been happening. 270 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: And so state law in Colorado. 271 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: Is, if you have a vacancy on the school board, 272 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: the board has to appoint somebody within sixty days. 273 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: And whoever they appoint, that's it. 274 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: There's no subject to confirmation on that right, And most 275 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: of our school boards are like five members. 276 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 5: Through this process, slowly, over a decade plus, people who 277 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 5: were aligned with the teachers in the school administration were 278 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 5: appointed to the school board. 279 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: What had happened over the more than ten year period 280 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: was that the school board had become largely ceremonial and 281 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: had become completely owned by the teachers and the administration. 282 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: They did not see themselves at all at all as 283 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: representing parents, not at all. They completely saw themselves as 284 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: representatives of like the school district itself. 285 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: I e. The administration and the teachers. 286 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: They had delegated all responsibility and authority to the superintendent 287 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: and they basically would have a meeting maybe once a 288 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: month that nobody went to and they were largely there 289 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: to take a report from the superintendent and rubber stamp 290 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: whatever the superintendent recommended. 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So Dave Illingworth, Cassie Kimbrel, 326 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 5: and others learned that the Woodland Park school Board had 327 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 5: become a puppet of the teacher's union and school administration 328 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 5: for over ten years. They'd quietly taken control of the 329 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 5: school board through a bit of a loophole in the 330 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 5: election process that allowed them to appoint whomever they wanted. 331 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 5: And once they got control of the school board, they 332 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 5: ignored the wants and needs of the parents. So in 333 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, Dave Illingworth, Cassie Kimbrel and others decided 334 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 5: they were going to do something about it again. 335 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: Dave Illingworth, so I ran to change that, and I 336 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: ran on growing the district. I ran on getting rid 337 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: of masking and lockdowns because at that time the schools 338 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: were still doing that. 339 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 9: Cassie Kimbrel, I helped campaign and did a lot of 340 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 9: this stuff behind the scenes. I helped them with anything 341 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 9: they need, graphics or just a lot of like roundtable discussions, 342 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 9: signature collecting when they had to get on the ballot. 343 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: And so it turns out, Patrick, that when one side 344 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: is saying vote for us because we'd like to represent 345 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: you and we'd like to do what you want done, 346 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: and the other side is saying vote for me, because 347 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: I will not represent you, and I have no power 348 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: to do anything you'd want me to do anyway, Well, 349 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: it turns out that actually trying to represent somebody is 350 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: the more popular political position. 351 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 5: Dave and his like minded colleagues challenged all four of 352 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: the school board seats that were on the twenty twenty 353 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 5: one ballot, and the. 354 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: Results we all want in a landslide. 355 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 5: Cassie Kimbrel would later be appointed to an open seat 356 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 5: on the school board as well. And like that, a 357 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 5: few people in the small town of Woodland Park decided 358 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 5: to do something, and they successfully took back their schools. 359 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 5: And Woodland Park wasn't alone. A small group of people 360 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 5: in a deep red county in Wisconsin decided to do 361 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 5: the same thing on an even larger scale. 362 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, Terry Dietrich took the reins of the 363 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: Republican Party of Waukeshaw County, Wisconsin. In the early days 364 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: of his chairmanship, he began studying the issues in his county. 365 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 10: We had worked really hard in twenty nineteen and twenty 366 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 10: knocking on over one hundred and seventy five thousand doors 367 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 10: in our county and interviewing what we would have considered 368 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 10: to be swing voters or middle of the road voters, 369 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 10: a kind of former Union Democrat type voters that we 370 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 10: had very clearly discovered that they were very much oriented 371 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 10: towards Trump and a more conservative line versus the typical 372 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 10: Republican line. 373 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: The voters in the area expressed frustrations with the Republican 374 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Party with their failures in statewide elections. If the state 375 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: and national GOP Party didn't make some changes, they'd either 376 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: sit out the elections or start looking for other political options. 377 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: Terry and his colleagues figured that they had to come 378 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: up with something to keep these people engaged in the 379 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: political process. 380 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 10: And my idea, along with one of my other colleagues, 381 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 10: was local elections. And so we said, everybody cares about 382 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 10: local elections. Everybody clears about what's going on in the 383 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 10: local school boards and their local budgets and their local taxes. 384 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 10: We need to focus on this. So then you had 385 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 10: COVID that came along. And I'm not going to go 386 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 10: into it a lot, because you've heard this a thousand times, 387 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 10: I'm sure across the country. The moms got mad, the 388 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 10: people started paying attention, especially the school boards. 389 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: So Terry and his colleagues came up with a plan. 390 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 10: Just following the twenty twenty election, actually in November, we 391 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 10: started a local county initiative underneath the umbrella of the 392 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 10: Republican Party of Waukeshaw County. 393 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: They called it wis READ short for Wisconsin Read. 394 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 10: We believed a trickle up theory, meaning winning at the 395 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 10: local level will ultimately build the bench and allow us 396 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 10: to win up ticket. So wis read initiative was set 397 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 10: up specifically at the local level to win municipal school 398 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 10: boards and in some cases judicial races at the local 399 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 10: level here in Waukeshaw County. We got to work, scoured 400 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 10: the county, analyzed all of the different races, what was 401 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 10: in the majority, what was in the minority, what seats 402 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 10: were open, what Democrats or Liberals were in, what opportunities 403 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 10: we might have. We found that our county effectively was 404 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 10: about forty percent at the municipal and local level in 405 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 10: the hands of liberals. Probably nearly half of the school 406 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 10: boards and municipal boards were majority controlled by liberals in 407 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 10: the biggest red county in the state. And that was 408 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 10: effectively because we as a county party were following the 409 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 10: longtime mantra of the state party and the RNC saying 410 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 10: that we don't participate in non partisan elections. So we decided, 411 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 10: we're a new sheriff in town, We're going to participate 412 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 10: in these. We went after it, and we recruited effectively 413 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 10: one hundred and ten candidates. Ran in the spring with 414 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 10: those candidates, recruited them, vetted them, supported them, ran those candidates, 415 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 10: and then ended up winning one hundred out of one 416 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 10: hundred and ten races, and for the last two years 417 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 10: have followed on with that same pattern and winning a 418 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 10: total of three hundred and eighty six out of four 419 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 10: hundred and twenty races in this county and have taken 420 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 10: effectively all of the majorities back in the municipal and 421 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 10: school boards. 422 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: And one of the primary things that helped in their 423 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: effort was something rather simple. 424 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 11: One of the greatest things that we did. 425 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 12: We put a voter guide together starting in twenty twenty one. 426 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: That's Kathy Pape, the executive director of the Republican Party 427 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: of Waukeshak County. 428 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 12: We sent it out by email and it went viral 429 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 12: and everybody said to us continually that they don't pay 430 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 12: attention if you don't have kids in school, to school boards, 431 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 12: and other things, but they would absolutely go out and 432 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 12: vote if they know who to vote for. So this 433 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 12: voter guide gave them that opportunity. 434 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: Kathy explained that the approach that they were taking was 435 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: best described by author Matthew Truella, who's been pitching an 436 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: idea to any Republicans who will listen, and that idea 437 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: is county before country. 438 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 12: And he helps people see your power is in your 439 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 12: county government. And he used illustrations during COVID. There was 440 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 12: a county outside of Saint Louis on the Illinois side, 441 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 12: and when Governor Pritchker shut down the state during COVID, 442 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 12: the county came back and said, no, we're not shutting down. 443 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 12: And he came back and he said, well then you're 444 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 12: not going to get your money. And they came back 445 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 12: and said, we don't care, we're not shutting it down. 446 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 12: And then other counties saw what they were doing. They 447 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 12: chimed in did the same thing, and pritch kerk was 448 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 12: basically going, uncle, uncle, uncle, uncle, uncle. We're trying to 449 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 12: help everyone in this county. Sea that we read is 450 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 12: so important because this is where our power is in 451 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 12: the county system. 452 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: Again, Terry Dietrich. 453 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 10: Interestingly enough, in the last year or so, the state 454 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 10: Party started talking local elections where they never had for 455 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 10: twenty years previous. So I think this trend will continue. 456 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 10: You saw what happened in Virginia and Governor DeSantis was 457 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 10: talking about winning two or three big school board elections 458 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 10: down in Florida. I had to laugh because we've won 459 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 10: three hundred and eighty two out of four hundred and twenty. 460 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 10: So we'd like to take this not only statewide, but 461 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 10: nationally because we think we have a formula that can 462 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 10: definitely win. 463 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Parents are beginning to see that the best way for 464 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: them to make an impact is to think local, focus 465 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: on their immediate environment. They see that they can retake 466 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: the K to twelve schools through the school boards. But 467 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: it's not just parents that are taking action. Young adults 468 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: are finding new ways to impact the American institution of 469 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: education as well, including a young college student that has 470 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: been so successful that even the legacy media has set 471 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: their sights on it. 472 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: Do you want to hear red Pilled America stories ad free? 473 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: Then become a backstage subscriber. Just log onto Redpilled America 474 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: dot com and click join in the top menu. Join 475 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 5: today and help us save America one story at a time. 476 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: Welcome back to red Pilled America. Daniel Schmidt does not 477 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 5: look like the threatening type. He's a brown haired, fair 478 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: skinned young man whose default face practically smiles. He gives 479 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 5: off a buttoned up, straight a student vibe that wouldn't 480 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 5: or couldn't ruffle anyone's feather. But as the saying goes, 481 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: don't judge a book by its cover, because this young 482 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 5: man has done more to impact the institution of education 483 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 5: than most adults three times his age. 484 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 11: I almost have like an obligation to speak up, that's Daniel, 485 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 11: because if I don't, you know, these coastal elite people 486 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 11: are just going to keep running the show. 487 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 5: Daniel was born in Los Angeles, California, but moved to 488 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 5: a small town in the middle of Tennessee when he 489 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 5: was around eight years old. 490 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 11: And I want to say that was sort of my 491 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 11: transformative experience. I saw how like normal middle Americans live. 492 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 11: I saw how they thought. I saw, you know, they 493 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 11: went to church every Sunday. They cared about family and 494 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 11: tradition and the nation. And that was sort of what 495 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 11: led me to just see how normal Americans live. 496 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 5: Daniel grew up in a single parent home with his mother. 497 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 5: He attended a run of the mill high school, nothing fancy, 498 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 5: but he put his nose down and got the kind 499 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 5: of grades and had the type of family income that 500 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 5: earned him a full ride scholarship. 501 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 11: I applied the twenty schools. I got into quite a few, 502 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 11: but I ended up picking you Chicago, primarily because the 503 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 11: school is known for its protection of free speech. It's 504 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 11: known as sort of the free speech school. 505 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 5: He chose economics as his course of study, and even 506 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 5: before he entered the University of Chicago in the twenty 507 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 5: twenty one to twenty two school year, he began pushing 508 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: the boundaries. As a Christian, Daniel got a religious exemption 509 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 5: from the campus vaccine mandate. It was something few students 510 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 5: were doing at the time. Then, in his first month 511 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 5: on campus, he took a stand on an issue that 512 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 5: most white guys try to avoid. 513 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 11: My first month in college, I couldn't participate in a 514 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 11: debate tournament because I was white. They straight up told 515 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 11: me to my face, this tournament's only open to non 516 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 11: white people, and I legitimately couldn't believe it. I thought 517 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 11: at first it was like a praying but then I 518 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 11: looked around the room, and everyone was nodding, everyone was 519 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 11: agreeing with it, and I was the only one who 520 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 11: seemed to even have a problem with it. It was unreal. 521 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 11: And the funniest part about it was I come from 522 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 11: a single mother household, went to a pretty average public 523 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 11: high school, and then I get to the school and 524 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 11: these kids who went to like super top boarding schools, 525 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 11: are really rich. They're telling me I'm privileged because I'm white. 526 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 11: They're telling me I can't do it debate tournament because 527 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 11: I'm white. I can't believe it. You know, I'm going 528 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 11: to full right scholarship because I'm like low income. 529 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 5: So he decided to expose the racist debate tournament. 530 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 11: And then the next year the tournament didn't happen. I 531 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 11: don't know if it was completely because of me, but 532 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 11: I have to imagine there was some scrutiny and that 533 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 11: maybe the students were a little scared. 534 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 5: It was only his first month of college and Daniel 535 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: was just getting started. 536 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 11: I'm unvaccinated. I'm probably one of the only students on 537 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 11: my college who's unvaccinated. 538 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 5: And when Daniel entered U Chicago in twenty twenty one, 539 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 5: the COVID protocols of mass testing and social distancing were 540 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: still in full swing. 541 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 11: The school was constantly sending me emails. They were making 542 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 11: me tests every week. It was just a total mess. 543 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 11: And then I did this email one day saying we 544 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 11: have this new policy. Unvaccinated students can go to dining halls. 545 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 11: They're basically saying you have to eat in your room, 546 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 11: you can't eat with anybody else. Just total persecution. And 547 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 11: I looked into it. I found out that the policy 548 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 11: isn't even legal in the city of Chicago. If you 549 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 11: have an exemption, which I did. I had a religious exemption. 550 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 11: You're allowed to eat in places even if you're not vaccinated. 551 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 11: So my college was completely breaking the law. And I 552 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 11: was like, Okay, this is insane. So I pressed my administration. 553 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 11: I sent like twenty emails to all the various administrators. 554 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 11: I wrote in an article for the newspaper I was 555 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 11: writing for at the time, and a few days later 556 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 11: the policy was reversed. Quietly, they sent me an email 557 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 11: and they said, yeah, the policy doesn't exist anymore. 558 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 5: Just by being a squeaky wheel, he got the policy 559 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 5: thrown out. It was around this time that Daniel's questioning 560 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: the system landed him on the national news Prestigious universities 561 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 5: like U Chicago often invite profile people to speak on campus. 562 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: April twenty twenty two was one of those times. Elite 563 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 5: left wing media outfit The Atlantic hosted a conference on 564 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 5: the campus entitled Disinformation and the Erosion of Democracy. 565 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 11: You know, the sort of mainstream media has this big 566 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 11: battle against this information or calling anything they don't like disinformation. 567 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 11: So my school invited Barack Obama, they invited Brian Stelter 568 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 11: from CNN, and they invited this one woman called an Applebaum, 569 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 11: who's this Atlantic journalist, super uptight, super you know, just 570 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 11: total liberal basically, and she was speaking about, you know, oh, 571 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 11: we need to fight disinformation. The conservatives are spreading all 572 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 11: this stuff. And I was in the audience and I 573 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 11: didn't know I was going to ask her a question. 574 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 11: It was kind of just impromptu. At the end, they said, hey, 575 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 11: does anyone want ask a question? I rollse my hand, 576 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 11: I got the MinC. I was like, okay, thank you 577 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 11: for doing that. Was really appreciated. I'm Daniel Schmidt. I'm 578 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 11: a freshman at the University of Chicago. My question is 579 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 11: for miss Applebaum. And I quickly like looked into her, 580 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 11: and I saw she was totally going after concerntives for 581 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 11: talking about the Hunter Biden laptop story. She was like, oh, 582 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 11: this is Russian disinformation. If you believe in this, you're 583 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 11: a conspiracy theorist. And this was still when people were 584 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 11: unsure if it was real or not. Now it's confirmed, 585 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 11: And so I asked her. So in twenty twenty, you wrote, 586 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 11: those who live outside the Fox News bubble do not, 587 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 11: of course need to learn any of the stuff about 588 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 11: Hunter Biden, referring to his laptop of curse. A poll 589 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,239 Speaker 11: later after that found that if voters knew about the 590 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 11: content of the laptop, sixteen percent of Joe Biden voters 591 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 11: would have acted differently. Now, of course, we know a 592 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 11: few weeks ago the New York Times confirmed that the 593 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 11: content is real. Do you think the media acted inappropriately 594 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 11: when they instantly dismissed Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian disinformation? 595 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 11: And what can we learn from that and ensuring that 596 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 11: what we label is disinformation is truly disinformation and not reality. 597 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 5: And Applebaum responded, My problem with Hunter Biden's laptop is 598 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 5: I think totally irrelevant. 599 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 13: I mean, it's not whether it's disinformation or I mean, 600 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 13: I didn't think the Hunter Biden's business rel relationships have 601 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 13: anything to do with who should be president of the 602 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 13: United States. So I didn't find I don't find it 603 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 13: to be interesting. I mean, that would be my problem 604 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 13: with that as a major news story. 605 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 5: The hypocrisy was jarring. Here was a woman whose newspaper 606 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 5: was hosting a conference on disinformation. She was caught in 607 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 5: a profound moment of disinformation about the Hunter Biden laptop 608 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: story right before an election, and she basically stated that 609 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 5: Hunter Biden's laptop was unimportant. 610 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 11: So I asked her that question, and then I posted 611 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 11: it to my Twitter and literally overnight it blew up. 612 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 11: I think got a million views. It was a big deal. 613 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 11: That was my sort of big viral moment. And again 614 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 11: at that moment, I realized, listen, I'm just a single 615 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 11: college kid. But if I can ask these powerful liberal 616 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 11: elites these questions, then I'm going to do it. 617 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 5: And he did. Later in twenty twenty two, Daniel got 618 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 5: another opportunity when lame duck Congresswoman Liz Cheney came to 619 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 5: the University of Chicago. Miss Cheney was the Vice Chair 620 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 5: of the House January sixth Committee that looked a brand 621 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 5: former President Trump as an insurrectionist and forced the prosecution 622 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 5: of those involved in the January sixth events. 623 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 11: When I found out she was coming, I kind of 624 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 11: knew right away I have to ask her about ray Epps. 625 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 5: Ray Epps, of course, was famously caught on camera encouraging 626 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 5: people to enter the Capitol in Washington, d C. Around 627 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 5: January sixth, twenty twenty one, yet was never prosecuted like 628 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 5: so many others, for inciting a so called insurrection. Some 629 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 5: suggested ray Epps was working with the FBI. Liz Cheney 630 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 5: had long been calling the entire ray Epps issue a 631 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 5: conspiracy theory, so Daniel thought he'd question her on the subject. 632 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 11: Thank you so much. My name is Daniel Schmidt. So 633 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 11: I've been following this January sixth committee really closely, and 634 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 11: I just wanted to ask you about some of the 635 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 11: facts here. So on June ninth, you cited the Department 636 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 11: of Justice and their prosecution of the Proud Boy some 637 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 11: of the members, and the Department of Justice said these 638 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 11: members directed, mobilized and led members of the crowd onto 639 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 11: the Capitol grounds and into the Capitol. So obviously that's 640 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 11: a crime. That's insurrection. And you know, I guess you 641 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 11: made the right call there. The fact of the matter 642 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 11: is we have another person on camera doing exactly that. 643 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 11: His name is Ray Epps, and it's not a conspiracy theory. 644 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 11: The New York Times shows him saying, quote, we need 645 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 11: to go into the capitol. I'm going to pick it 646 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 11: out there. I'm going to put it out there. I'm 647 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 11: probably gonna go to jail tomorrow. We need to go 648 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 11: into the capitol. That's not a conspiracy theorist. We have 649 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 11: an actual insurrectionist on tape, and yet he's escaped prosecution. 650 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 11: So let me just ask you right here, do you 651 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 11: demand the prosecution of Ray Epps. He's an actual insurrectionist 652 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 11: on tape. 653 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 14: You know, let me let me let me answer the question, 654 00:34:52,719 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 14: because I think there's some confusion about confusion about the 655 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 14: role of Congress. 656 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 11: And her answer was basically, oh no, that's a conspiracy theory. 657 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 14: I think we all ought to be able to agree 658 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 14: on those basic things as Americans and set aside conspiracy theories. 659 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 11: And she literally was like condescending me. She was like, 660 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 11: you know nothing about government. Kids, Sit down, And at 661 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 11: the very end, after I asked this question another student 662 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 11: who was next up in line. He apologized to her 663 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 11: for my culte behavior. Hi, Liz, I appreciate your. 664 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 15: I appreciate your handling of and apologize for Daniel Schmidt's behavior. 665 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 15: He's the worst star campus house opera. 666 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 11: And it's it's the most insane thing ever, because you know, 667 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 11: Liz Cheney is like the epitome of an establishment politician. 668 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 11: It's total Neo Cohn. You know, Dad is Dick Cheney. 669 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 11: And this student is like apologizing to her, and everyone's 670 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 11: booing at me. I mean, and you know, the question 671 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 11: is like, what happened to kids being rebellious? You know, 672 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 11: what happened to kids protesting in college campuses? You would 673 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 11: think people like this Channing would be booed out of existence, 674 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 11: and now the kids are bowing down. I mean, it's 675 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 11: the most insane dynamic ever. I couldn't believe my eyes. 676 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 5: But it was in late twenty twenty two when he 677 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 5: took a stand against an upcoming U Chicago class that 678 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 5: put him in the crosshairs of the legacy media. 679 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 11: It all started when I was looking for classes to 680 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 11: register and I found this one class and it was 681 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 11: called the problem of whiteness, and I mean it just 682 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 11: endsley stood out to me, like what is this class 683 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 11: saying that there's a problem with whiteness and whiteness as 684 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 11: white people and that therefore there's a solution. And then 685 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 11: I went into the course description and it's saying like 686 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 11: whiteness is a world making and raising problem. I mean, 687 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 11: it was just it was egregious. I don't know what 688 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 11: other word to use, and I don't know how anyone 689 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 11: could defend such a thing. So I saw this class 690 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 11: and I was like, listen, people need to know, like 691 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 11: this class is being taught out of such a an 692 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 11: I lead school. So I went on Twitter and I 693 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 11: made a little bit of a thread. I posted the 694 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 11: class title, I posted the course description. I posted a 695 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 11: picture of the woman teaching the class, because I mean, 696 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 11: people should know the face of this stuff. 697 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 5: The professor's name was Rebecca Journey. 698 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 11: And pretty quickly the thread blow up. I think it 699 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 11: got over a million impressions. And that's when this professor 700 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 11: went full speed against me. She was calling me a 701 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 11: cyber terrorist. She's saying I'm going to encourage an armed 702 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 11: school shooter. And then she filed two separate complaints to 703 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 11: get me expelled and I have to show appreciation of 704 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 11: my school. My school denied both of those. 705 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 5: This all went down in November and December twenty twenty two. 706 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 5: But then seven months later, after the issue appeared to 707 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 5: be forgotten, the legacy media set their sights on Daniel. 708 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 11: Schmidt, and then out of nowhere, The New York Times 709 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 11: dropped an article about me the basically attacking my school, 710 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 11: saying they should have done more about it, they should 711 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 11: have punished me. And then CNN dropped and articles calling 712 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 11: me a bully, saying I bully people into. 713 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: Silence, and this is what happens when you're over the target, 714 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: especially when a concerned citizen tries to break the monopoly 715 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: the radical left has on education. Right after Dave Illingworth 716 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: and his team took over the Woodland Park School Board, 717 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: teachers and a few vocal liberal parents and activists began 718 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: their attack on Dave and his colleagues. Again, Dave Illingworth, 719 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: some of these people Patrick. 720 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: They called the Teller County Clerk the day after the 721 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 2: election and said we would like the recall petitions. We're 722 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: ready to start gathering signatures to recall these guys, and 723 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: they were told actually the law says, you have to 724 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: wait six months, can't start gathering signatures until they've been 725 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 2: off for six months. Well, they waited until six months, 726 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: and they went back that day and got the recall petitions. 727 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 13: Recall efforts are underway in Woodland Park tonight after a 728 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 13: petition was just filed against two school board members. 729 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 15: School Board Vice president David Illingworth and board director Suzanne 730 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 15: Patterson will face a recall vote in November if there 731 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 15: are enough valid signatures on both of those petitions. 732 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 16: Well, the forses behind it are fairly easy to identify. 733 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: That's Ken Witt, the school superintendent that was hired by 734 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: Dave Ellingworth and the rest of the Woodland Park school Board. 735 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 16: And for the most part its organized union resistance to 736 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,479 Speaker 16: change a common theme. 737 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 3: The recall failed tonight too. 738 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 16: Woodland Park school Board members are speaking out after months 739 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 16: of efforts to remove them from office failed. 740 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 8: Election official say petitioners came up short to trigger recall 741 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 8: elections against Woodland Park school Board members David Illingworth and 742 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 8: Suzanne Patterson. 743 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 15: Wooland Park's school board vice president David Illingworth says he 744 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 15: is pleased, calling the push to remove him a wasteful 745 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 15: effort by a group committed to a radical agenda. 746 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 16: Not only did it fail, they didn't give enough signatures 747 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 16: to get there by a long shot. So this board 748 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 16: has twice won support from the community. 749 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: Ken Witt and the school board began making reforms immediately, 750 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: bringing part of the school's curriculum back to America's first principles. 751 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 16: We adopted the American birth Right Curriculum standard quite honestly, 752 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 16: within a few days of me joining the school district. 753 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 16: So that certainly underscored the board's commitment to return focus 754 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 16: to a quality academic focus and to lose some of 755 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 16: the divisive politics and perspectives that are going on in 756 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 16: public education. 757 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: So that certainly met with some resistance. 758 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: And so the American birth Right standards are about making 759 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: sure that every kid is getting a curriculum that is 760 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 2: always designed to give the full and complete history of 761 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 2: this country, with an understanding that people who are learning 762 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: history are students, should be valuing the American system, that 763 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: it's a good system. In the end, it's not a 764 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: perfect system, but it's probably the best that we've managed 765 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 2: to come up with so far in human history. 766 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: Historically, the national media have largely ignored this small town 767 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: that is until words spread that the new sheriff in 768 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: town began to change the curriculum. 769 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 4: The district also became the first in the country to 770 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 4: implement a social studies program called American Birthright, developed by 771 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 4: conservative activists and rejected by educators around the country, including 772 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: Colorado's state Board of Education. It emphasizes patriotism and discourages 773 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 4: civic engagement. 774 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 14: It's terrifying. 775 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: When Sarah Lee, a Woodland Park teacher for almost two decades, 776 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: learn what was inside the new program, she started to panic. 777 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,479 Speaker 8: Anything that is not the way that the leader says 778 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 8: it should be is wrong and evil and should be destroyed. 779 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 8: And that's how I feel about that American Birthright curriculum. 780 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 4: This November, three seats on the school board are up 781 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 4: for election. Parents like Matt Galowski worry about how much 782 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: could change between now and then. 783 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 15: Wake up, don't don't rest, don't think that your district 784 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 15: is safe. I never saw this coming. 785 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: They always seem to scream the loudest when you're over 786 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: the target, which leads us back to the question, what 787 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: can the folks do to help save America? Well, one 788 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: answer is take back the schools. Our educational system is 789 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: perhaps the most important cultural institution in America. Almost every 790 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: child is legally required to run this gauntlet for at 791 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: least thirteen years, and the overwhelming majority do so through 792 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: the public school system. This is something that the radical 793 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: left understood going back to at least the nineteen sixties. 794 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 11: We must educate our people. 795 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 7: In order to educate our people, it means that we 796 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 7: must take over the schools, nothing less, take them over 797 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 7: by any means necessary. 798 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: Education is what feeds our youth in their most formative 799 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: and vulnerable hearth years. So we must rid our system 800 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,479 Speaker 1: of the poisonous ideology that the radicals are pumping into 801 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: our kids bloodstream by taking over the schools, and as 802 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: Woodland Park and wish Reds shown it can be done. 803 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: Parents and teachers can take back their schools and make 804 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 2: sure that their kids are getting the education they deserve. 805 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 3: They don't have to be. 806 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 2: Controlled and forced into the big darkness that's coming from 807 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 2: the power centers in DC and the special interests with 808 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: all their billions of dollars. 809 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 3: So you can do it. 810 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: And it's not just the K through twelve education system 811 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: that needs to be taken back. We must not abandon 812 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: higher education. 813 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 11: These elite schools are still the best gateway to power. 814 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 11: You know, if we just abandon these institutions, the Left's 815 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 11: just going to dominate them, and that's just a way 816 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 11: for us to lose even more power. So I just 817 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 11: want to inspire other students to show Listen. I didn't 818 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 11: come from any fancy backgrounds, I don't have any fancy connections. 819 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 11: I just started calling out what I think is wrong, 820 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 11: defending what I think is true. 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