WEBVTT - Discussing No Holes Barred w/ Passport Cutty

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to decisions Decisions. I don't think you should say

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<v Speaker 1>decision decisions. It sounded like you was talking to Kirsty.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely say to welcome, welcome to the new podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to say together, decisions decisions. I am passport cutting.

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<v Speaker 2>I am an author like Coach and.

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<v Speaker 1>Missing Ones. Huh talka former hope and before us.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we gonna get into that author we ever had

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast podcaster.

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<v Speaker 1>In you and everybody. I don't even only was on

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<v Speaker 1>my notes. Okay, some of you might remember me from

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<v Speaker 1>one of their first episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was them interviewing me about my first book, that

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<v Speaker 2>m and Manas for Money. So that's why I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>to be here to be talking to them about their

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<v Speaker 2>first book, No Holds barn is a dual manifesto of

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<v Speaker 2>such exploration and power, and I had the luxury and

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<v Speaker 2>the privilege of reading it twice already. Then if you are,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've been listening for a long long time. We

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<v Speaker 2>had another episode we did that was we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>something that super time.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna get into that later.

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<v Speaker 2>But this dynamic duo they did something super disruptive. They

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<v Speaker 2>built community, They built safety, exploration, identity fun and.

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<v Speaker 1>For me a bubble educated. So I love these ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>The book has a lot of layers. It's very sexy

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<v Speaker 1>but smart, and it's very wild.

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<v Speaker 2>But why Okay, so we are gonna get I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>taking it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Sexy but smart?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm gonna tell you guys what I love

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<v Speaker 2>about the book personally, right, So I usually love memoirs

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<v Speaker 2>and self help. I used to read all the rodicts,

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<v Speaker 2>so but this is all of them in one. So

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<v Speaker 2>it really is a pleasure to like get a dose

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<v Speaker 2>of everything all at once. And I'm just so I

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<v Speaker 2>was more surprised by the education part of it because

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<v Speaker 2>there was still stuff that I did not know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking it up on Google right like words

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<v Speaker 2>and you guys did a good job at explaining a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things that you thought that people weren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to know. But there was still something I didn't know. Abrosexual.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's called hey bro ay go sexual.

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<v Speaker 1>So so what's crazy about that one is we ended.

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<v Speaker 2>Up even talking about that in an episode. I just

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<v Speaker 2>think all of the labels that go onto our sexualities,

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<v Speaker 2>like anyone kild like say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, maybe you're not that maybe you're not that.

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<v Speaker 2>What I've noticed is, though, specifically for me, from when

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<v Speaker 2>I first started having sex with sixteen years old all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to now is that there's been ebbs and

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<v Speaker 2>flows of what I've been into and it's changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all are the name for that now?

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<v Speaker 2>A sexual is the ability to kind of be fluid

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<v Speaker 2>with so sorry, fluid with your sexual identity.

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<v Speaker 1>So the the privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to be able to change and be like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I was this way at one point. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't define me now. Saw that word, thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal and threw it off. Another one was compersion, which

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<v Speaker 2>you do you do? People so tired of hearing me

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<v Speaker 2>say that it is my favorite word, and it's so compersion.

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<v Speaker 1>If y'all listen to the show clap if you know

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<v Speaker 1>the word.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we out dick sucking story. Confersion means that you're

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<v Speaker 2>taking pleasure and someone else receiving pleasure, so much like

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<v Speaker 2>a cuk hoole the cook queen, someone that just enjoys

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that their partner is also enjoying.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Times in non monogamy you actually have to really practice

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<v Speaker 2>conversion knowing that someone is having fun by having an

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<v Speaker 2>experience that's outside of you. And so I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one hundred percent good at confersion, but there eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>I also didn't know what M D M A was MD?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a drug? I'm telling you all this man

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, I still don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna hold you as a New York girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Half of the stories I like to be like, I

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<v Speaker 2>was high some of this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually a lot didn't hit that hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so well that look, the proof is that those

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<v Speaker 2>words that suck out to me, you're gonna stick out

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<v Speaker 2>to you as well. All Right, So it's vulnerable, it's personal,

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<v Speaker 2>it's transparent, it's funny, and it has a lot of personality.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to read it, but you also have to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to me, Like you can't just do one, because

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<v Speaker 2>I did both, right, So you.

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<v Speaker 1>Had time to listen to it, yea ten hours?

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the cool old day.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I waked up at five am, you do. I

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<v Speaker 2>had from five am all the way till I got

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<v Speaker 2>here too, Okay, But also in the book, I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading a school yesterday again, and when you when you

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<v Speaker 2>were writing, okay, can I can I ask you someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's listened to it, because I'm surprised we have someone

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<v Speaker 2>who has just your thoughts on kind of while reading

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<v Speaker 2>it and hearing it the emotion that was conveyed. Because

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<v Speaker 2>for me and if y'all are patrons, I've talked about it,

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<v Speaker 2>Recording this book was the hardest thing I've done professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>She tried to warm me. I was like, bit y'all

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<v Speaker 1>talked for a little long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, did y'all record the audio book? And she was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're about to do that in like two days or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm just want to know right now. She

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<v Speaker 2>warned me, you don't feel like you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know how to read. I didn't know how to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how to read. There was there was

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<v Speaker 1>there were.

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<v Speaker 2>There were chapters that were so easy to write. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when I was speaking there a bitch got choked. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't choke up.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't read. So like it was like the emotion

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<v Speaker 1>that she still wanted it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, oh, ship, like the chapter like my

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<v Speaker 2>abortion chapter was I wrote that in like a day,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was I knew I wanted to share that

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<v Speaker 2>story with everything happening, and before writing it, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a therapy session.

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed my mom, I interviewed my friend Peter whop

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<v Speaker 1>me pay well. I wanted to say, though the audio

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<v Speaker 1>version of it, we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't I talk about this before the audio version

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<v Speaker 2>of that chapter, which was my easiest. A bitch broke

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<v Speaker 2>broke down in the in the recording version of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you were you able to

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<v Speaker 2>were you, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Have hear it all that you can. You can hear.

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<v Speaker 2>The personality and emotions behind all of the top, like

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes super exciting, you know, like it's easy.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll they'll they'll know.

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<v Speaker 2>This book because the most uncomfortable thing to read was

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<v Speaker 2>not a sault, nothing like that. It was this sentence

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<v Speaker 2>in front of I would say he was maybe mid

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<v Speaker 2>fifties Latino, dude. I'm recording this audio book in LA

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a glass wall with the person saying no,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, weezy and just you know, stick with the

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<v Speaker 2>same cadence.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember it because I was like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take him a while because it's in the session.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh girl, you're engineering my ultimate fantasy had always been

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<v Speaker 2>getting fucked while eating.

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<v Speaker 1>Pussy looking at me on they're not telling y'all. He

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<v Speaker 1>really sat there and he goes, this is it's really

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<v Speaker 1>gonna touch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's when you get this industry like nothing is surprises

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<v Speaker 2>people sometimes like they've heard it all, like in music,

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<v Speaker 2>but especially engineers, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Like not Miguel that man said, whoa hear from? Like man? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like right yeah. And so just to describe the setting,

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<v Speaker 1>we were in rappers going there.

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<v Speaker 2>Music people go in there to do advertisements like things

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<v Speaker 2>like that, like commercials and voiceovers. So to have someone

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<v Speaker 2>just sit there with you and hear ten hours of

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<v Speaker 2>your book, it was interesting. And also tell you can't

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<v Speaker 2>read yes, yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got so many words wrong. Yeah I read the word

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<v Speaker 1>two twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like you have to also I wrote words

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, how you say this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now that's what I need to tell when when

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<v Speaker 1>it got to.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like naevity, like when I was recording mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So you know our co author shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>Texas egg here on Tempest is Bright.

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<v Speaker 2>She really like took our books to another level by

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<v Speaker 2>helping this add like depth and dimensions to this book

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the words that I can read use

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<v Speaker 2>my brain got stuck that I can tell tenthist with

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<v Speaker 2>jammed in the homogens and I say hold.

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<v Speaker 1>On Jesus and yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So two things that popped out for me in this

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<v Speaker 2>book that I feel like were major themes for you

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<v Speaker 2>guys individually separate were for you, Mandy, it was shame,

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<v Speaker 2>and then for you it was jealousy. And I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know, like for me, I felt like those are

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<v Speaker 2>two themes that a lot of people don't admit.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the part of self help, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, like when you are trying to really like get

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<v Speaker 2>to know yourself and change things about yourself, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>admit things that are uncomfortable. So I want to know,

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<v Speaker 2>at what point did you guys feel like you could

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<v Speaker 2>admit like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, I'm jealous when I see him with her

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<v Speaker 1>or her with him, or you know, like when did

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<v Speaker 1>jealousy beat something that you were able to own?

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<v Speaker 2>And for you the shame you were like the shame

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, my friends judging me if I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to leave with the guy or if I wanted you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was on a date and like I felt

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<v Speaker 2>excited about it, but you know, like I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else to like judge me about it, So you

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<v Speaker 2>guys can answer respect me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with jealousy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for anyone to listen to this show, whether

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<v Speaker 2>you're a monogamous or not a monogamous, the constant conversation

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<v Speaker 2>you have with yourself is jealousy. I've been in relationships

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<v Speaker 2>where my partner dated no one else and I was

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<v Speaker 2>jealous of the misdeader to work with. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that jealousy is something you can be able to face. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when it can be accepted. Because here's the thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>just had this conversation with my partner recently where I said,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I get scared to tell you if I'm jealous

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't want you to say this isn't for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to just be able to get it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, I'll be jealous of my best friend's mama.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever want his mama?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's how much I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two best friends right now, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell you right now. Brianda had to give me a warning,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get upset. I'm gonna be hanging out with some

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<v Speaker 2>of a woman. One of my best friends andre if

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<v Speaker 2>he has another homegirl, just that whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you ever? Did you ever deny that part about

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<v Speaker 1>you yourself? Or did you always? Because you know what

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<v Speaker 1>we've done?

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<v Speaker 2>And jealousy as weakness. If you are a jealous person,

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<v Speaker 2>you're weak and you're insecure.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever. If I don't say this.

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<v Speaker 2>Out loud, then it just sits there and throws into

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<v Speaker 2>your resentment. So I think that the first step in

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<v Speaker 2>how can someone be able to help you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because now that my partner knows like a philography, what

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<v Speaker 1>does he do now?

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<v Speaker 2>Affirmation, reaffirming our relationship, you have to say these things,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think just admitting the jealousy with confidence

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<v Speaker 2>is what you better do. Somenoy. It was so break

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<v Speaker 2>think like of you to put that, because most people

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<v Speaker 2>deny it and you cannot help. You can't self help,

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<v Speaker 2>You can't ask your therapist for tools or anything if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't admit that you have these feelings deep down inside.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that you talk about and you openly

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<v Speaker 2>say like, I'm just I wanted to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't gonna enjoy him.

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<v Speaker 1>Her was more than better than reason. He hasn't it

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<v Speaker 1>better than you? So me, let me tell you timing matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Had this book came out a year or two ago,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be able to stay here and like it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I would have gagged over to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Soulmate Nigga that I thought I was with, like he had.

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<v Speaker 2>So many he had so many parts of this book

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<v Speaker 2>in our proposal because I was like, I found in love,

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<v Speaker 2>I found my and I would I would have hated

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<v Speaker 2>that this book came out and I, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, immortalized him in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And so for me, when we had the opportunity of

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<v Speaker 2>the book come to us, I have just gotten into

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<v Speaker 2>therapy and so during the pandemic, I had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more time to sit with myself. And when it came

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<v Speaker 2>to this book, we really wanted to lean into the

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<v Speaker 2>iroonica and I was fine with that, but I was like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>I there's a lot of shit out and did and

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<v Speaker 2>said on this podcast that I hate with my like,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it, and I know that there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>con complation. That's the word conflate. You could conflate being liberated.

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<v Speaker 1>Florida education, y'all known. But when you talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About being liberated, which is what this platform, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what Horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Decisions was based upon a lot of times they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Allow us as liberated, free women to admit our faults,

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<v Speaker 2>to to actually admit the shame and decisions that we

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<v Speaker 2>made a past that we've grown from. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people just want to keep us in whatever bubble they

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<v Speaker 2>want us to stay in, And for me, I was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't even gonna hold you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way I'm writing this book.

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<v Speaker 2>Telling women to have sex for this amount of money

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<v Speaker 2>and view men in this way because I've now been

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<v Speaker 2>able to experience viewing men in such a beautiful way

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<v Speaker 2>and experiencing intimacy and ways that I didn't in the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning that I was like, bro, like, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the younger generation or women in my age

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<v Speaker 2>to think the way that I thought when we first

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<v Speaker 2>started this show.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was just a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of trauma that I was overcoming and ways in which

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, like, there's a whole chapter about me being

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<v Speaker 2>a side chick, and I think, well, they like me

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<v Speaker 2>more than they white cuz they telling the truth to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the rhetoric was so dumb. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>literally in the book realizing a bit you ain't have

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<v Speaker 2>no self worth. Ah, but you actually thought that you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be a priority to a man, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>you fell by the wayside. There was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>reflection that had to happen, and to me, this book

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't exist without me being able to share that part

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<v Speaker 2>of my journey. And luckily we got to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where we knew we were writing two different stories. Weeze

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<v Speaker 2>isnt a place where two THI bitch this meet and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, this is me and I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to include the parts of me that

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<v Speaker 2>regret a lot of decisions that I made.

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<v Speaker 1>We will read a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of those chapters and think, and there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>someone because God forbid you sexually liberated and can have growth.

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<v Speaker 2>You better not be a bitch that was out there

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<v Speaker 2>having a good time fucking. And now you're gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>us you're credited. Well, hold on, I can't have one

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<v Speaker 2>moment in my life. Oh no, there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I got good, two, three, But yeah, So that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>like this book, it was important.

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<v Speaker 2>And our team over at Simon and Schuster too, Once

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<v Speaker 2>they started reading our stories, They're like, well, the readers

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<v Speaker 2>are reading your stories.

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<v Speaker 1>But because we were so.

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<v Speaker 2>Adamant on making sure that people could pick up this book,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they were fans of horrible decisions, decisions decisions or not.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, well, what would you tell your reader then?

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<v Speaker 2>And so we I literally had a lot of calls

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<v Speaker 2>with our publisher about well what.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give your reader?

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<v Speaker 2>Like readers like to take something away and yes they're

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<v Speaker 2>hearing your stories, Well what can you give them? So

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<v Speaker 2>we went back and really tried to tell you guys, well,

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<v Speaker 2>had I done this, maybe I would have gotten a

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<v Speaker 2>better results. So hopefully you do this, or here's a

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<v Speaker 2>way to shoot your shot. And there's just different parts

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<v Speaker 2>of self help in there that help you guys make

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<v Speaker 2>better decisions than us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's very informational education.

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<v Speaker 4>Let speaking of.

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<v Speaker 1>Shame, I have a story to share. So I remember

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<v Speaker 1>earlier when I said about one of.

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<v Speaker 2>The episodes, yep, it was actually episode one sixteen period.

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<v Speaker 1>She been here a long time, hundreds now.

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<v Speaker 2>So for myself, as someone who made a name for

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<v Speaker 2>myself on the Internet being raunchy, vulgar, uh table like

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<v Speaker 2>talk about taboo topics, they took such stuff to a

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<v Speaker 2>whole another leven. I'm vanilla compared to everybody goes. I

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<v Speaker 2>was wild for talking about and he's and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but when they came out, y'all made me feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh again.

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<v Speaker 1>You're one of my favorite stories of all. And before this,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know anything that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about, Like I was so green.

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<v Speaker 2>Compared to like the stories that were being shared on

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<v Speaker 2>the question a y feud.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't mind how old you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, by the way, y'all just heard us on the

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<v Speaker 2>Breakfast Club this morning and puld.

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<v Speaker 1>Out not sure why waunch you guess because I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta thirty four BULI. Yeah, okay, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in twenty nineteen, I went to India and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go get him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna tell the whole story. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went to India.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to go get a massage.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear to god, I really thought I was going

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<v Speaker 2>for massage. I'm not like, I really was going for massage.

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<v Speaker 1>And it ended with a happy ending right now, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so excited that just happened to me because.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it was like a story to tell, right,

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<v Speaker 1>did I want the person who did it to me?

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<v Speaker 2>To do it to me, But I had a story

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<v Speaker 2>to tell, like this is a life story that's like

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<v Speaker 2>fire to me, right. But I was in India with

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<v Speaker 2>a friend who was in the other room and she

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<v Speaker 2>was propositioned with the same situation and she was hortified.

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<v Speaker 1>So she when we left out the room, she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, tell.

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<v Speaker 2>And so because she was so mortified, I was too

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassed to tell her that I got it done. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, let's go, you know, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>wait to stay home and tell me didn't read it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing about it is is that that goes

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<v Speaker 2>to show you the safe space, right, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>your time, you know where you could go, no judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told everybody, all of my father when I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear the story, you go listen to this show, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because we were like you live.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I could have told the story on my life

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<v Speaker 2>or on you know, my page or whatever. I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell that and I'll never forget because

0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 2>you asked me a question on that episode said she said,

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<v Speaker 2>what you look like?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, God, damn it, he wasn't kissed. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna leave that part out. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but I was thinking Indian marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, y'all want to go back LANDI was not figuring

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<v Speaker 2>her with.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't listen to it. But the point that God, can

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<v Speaker 1>I rap your pussy ma'am? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that validation guys in any way, to know that

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<v Speaker 2>people feel like they can only share their like intimate

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<v Speaker 2>deep and dark and secrets because of you and with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think if if y'all go back. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a moment in time and I hated that I

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe called this on me. I called myself like

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<v Speaker 2>the bullhole whisperer. At one point, every guy that was

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<v Speaker 2>in my phone wanted they butt like they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Was opening up about like like literally, but we were

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.159
<v Speaker 4>also like sharing with me all of these fantasies or

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<v Speaker 4>experiences or things that they had actually done sexually with.

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<v Speaker 1>Either trans women or other men and all of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started being like, Yo, I hate that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being told this because they're not given this safe space

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<v Speaker 2>by the women that they're actually dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I wasn't dagonal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh like I've been old, but I'm talking but

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<v Speaker 2>these weren't my partners. They were like some lovers and

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<v Speaker 2>so but it made me feel like, damn, like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>all of these men that I'm talking to, because I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to a lot and a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, WHOA, I don't think they have these

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<v Speaker 2>safe spaces with their previous partners, with maybe whoever else

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.639
<v Speaker 2>they're engaging in, with whoever else they're talking to. And

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it made me feel like, Wow, this is

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<v Speaker 2>powerful because I've only talked to black guys in my

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<v Speaker 2>entire life, and so for me to know that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have that safe space, it made me feel

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<v Speaker 2>powerful to be able to create that for.

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<v Speaker 1>Them and then for my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll share another story because I wasn't allowed to share

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.160
<v Speaker 2>on air, so we might need to cut this off.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of my other homegirls, you saiday, a very

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 2>famous rapper that got locked.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, and it's you'll never get that while they were together.

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<v Speaker 2>Like clearly, how they were intimate with each other were

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<v Speaker 2>through words, and so she would text me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when I was in college. So I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of class.

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<v Speaker 2>And she'd be like, ooh, girl, text them, like text

0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.959
<v Speaker 2>me song sexy to see him. So I would literally

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 2>be the person to like even open up their verbal

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 2>communications sexually because she wasn't and she'd read those and be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, grat do you think like that? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to think.

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 2>And so for my friends, they've been able to come

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<v Speaker 2>to me with not only their health but their sexual

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.960
<v Speaker 2>dilemmas and men that I've dated to me, it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the powers I feel like I have and being

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<v Speaker 2>able to exist how I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do just want to leave you with this,

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<v Speaker 1>for the women in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Room typically who have had the joys of being liberated

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<v Speaker 2>or even just experimenting with their sexuality, creating that safe

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>space for any guy to even share that with you

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and not yuck, they're young because whether you liked it

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 2>or not, however you identify, you got to enjoy that experience.

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>You got to have that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think we allow black men as much

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>to exist or have those experiences. And we're up here

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>being able to talk like this because y'all welcome this conversation.

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 2>We have to welcome our brothers as well. Yeah, oh no,

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:38.479
<v Speaker 2>that was real deep, my man. I got really gat questions,

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 2>which is about power, which is one of the major

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 2>themes of the book, but you guys talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>very differently. You talk about it in a more like

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<v Speaker 2>like have you just said, I'm have power over he's been,

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm betting them over.

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing you doing your thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I love the part where you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>submission having power, but we do do that differently. Yeah,

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 2>the situation you said, the person who's the submission actually

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 2>is basically calling the shots about what they want, you know. Yeah, Like,

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 2>so any guy's gonna talk about pick that up?

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I know I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I appreciate that because a lot of the times

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 2>when reading this book, I think you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>pull the power from that section.

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 2>In conversation about VIDSM, where do we think that the

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 2>person that's on their knee is just this, Oh my god.

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel so bad for her. She's giving her as well, bitch.

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 2>We they want the I want that, you know, well

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>not well people years have interviewed so many doms that

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>want women to experience this in a safe way, And

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 2>I think the most beautiful part of my BDSM story

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 2>is that luckily I got to be with someone that

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<v Speaker 2>was actually a dom, not only what were they a

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<v Speaker 2>dom for a long time, but they were a dom

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:06.959
<v Speaker 2>that didn't take their dominating pleasures into into play when

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it came to me.

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>So, for example, I found out later he likes to suffocate.

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Women That didn't even come up with me because when

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I was sent to checklist, it was something that I

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 2>put up right, So he didn't even tell me this.

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought this out years later. That was his cake.

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>So really just his pleasure was being able to dominate

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>and please someone that liked to be a sub.

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.360
<v Speaker 1>And when we Ceddy is talking about the power.

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I know you guys can get to read that, yet

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I talk about how I asked for everything I wanted. Yeah,

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't anything that happened to me that wasn't No,

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't anything that made me feel uncomfortable. And there

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 2>was also power in the safe word. And I think

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 2>that women get so scared to ask for something that

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 2>they want because it seems like if you're giving yourself

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 2>to someone, then you have no power to me.

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>It is much like the One Night's dand you could

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<v Speaker 1>either do a walk of shame or you were like pride.

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>And I've been now with both, I've.

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Definite only left some one department of be like, oh

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>my god, I'm so i'mbarissed. I can't believe I'm not

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 2>fanna tell my friends. And then there became woman of Confidence,

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 2>where I was like, yeah.

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Same outfit, drug, I'm just new dress. Do I care?

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to add to what she's saying, because this

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>is currently a conversation of pop culture. Shout out to

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 2>our twenty seven white listeners because I'm about to bring

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>up a white woman, but the conversation right now, I'll

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll see it.

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy.

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy because there's a conversation right now happening around

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Sabrina Carpenter's new album cover where she's on her knees

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 2>and she's you know, and she's in this thing and

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:48.959
<v Speaker 2>so knowing that like she's in a submissive stance not

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 2>to shout out my friend, but to shout out my friends.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>So on around the way curls. This week, they literally

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>talk about how as a woman who's in a relationship,

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>yeah it's powerful to be submissive, but maybe the views

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>on single women doing these things don't hold the lens.

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>To it being as powerful as it really is.

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>And so when submission is done, safely consensually with a

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 2>DOM who values your your boundaries. The power is actually

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 2>in the sub because the sub says no, the sub

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 2>says when it's too much.

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>The sub like will do what?

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh look what makes them feel well, which makes the

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 2>DOM be excited, Like when I be Ben and the

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 2>niggas over Like, it's powerful for me, but they're in

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 2>a space where they're safe, and it becomes powerful for them.

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>So I just hate that what we do be taking

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 2>away the power from submissus. But I'd say all that

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to say, like, I love that we've been able to

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>have that type of dialogue around those two spaces within

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>BDSU specifically for that, you know, I want to add

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>to this as far as power. Yeah, the walk of

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>shame to hit the walker pride right. Both times that

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 2>night started with me wanting to have such a something.

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>The difference in the first and that I wasn't both

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 2>is that I got over that bullshit of feeling bad

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>about enjoying sex. That is not what I thought you

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 2>were gonna say. I thought it only becomes like a

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 2>walk of shame when it's dead. No, didn't even think

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>and be like what I allowed to say, because when

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 2>it's good like saying I'm not like I thought.

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I felt ashamed of the sex I had the night before.

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 2>It was genuinely because I was the phase of my

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 2>life where I felt like I shouldn't be doing that,

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 2>or I should be looking for a relationship, or oh

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I fucked him on the second date not the third day.

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>There was so many rules in my head instead of

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:40.239
<v Speaker 2>just enjoying. You know, and like, I think that as

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>people that want to explore ourselves, we think, Hey, if

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I want a relationship, I gotta be doing things intentionally.

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't have sex with someone for five because I

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 2>want to get married and have a husband.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, you need let me tell you something. They could

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>be yourself made.

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Hello.

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>It is in the book, and it's so import to

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>show you. This line is in the love chapters.

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 2>In the final chapter of the book, I was answer

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>to my home brow not a snort.

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I had a snort.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 5>So about dating and I'm like, girl, when is it happened?

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. I went to therapy. I'm here with

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the fuck bitch.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 2>She's like, girl, what if you found out this was

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 2>your last summer?

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 2>What if it was your last summer single, wouldn't you

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 2>want to do a little self about the ending? Because

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, ship, I want to get I want

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 2>some fun stuff to happen before you, like it's open.

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Hello, you like you gonna still be having fun. I'm

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>don't share. Of course, you share with your person. You

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta think about it.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 2>So yes, by the time you meet your person, right,

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>you got to assume that your person you he's the

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 2>one that's going to accept all of those flaws, all

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>of those stories. Me I'm not even really be saying that,

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, yo, let me take you bout their

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>sugar daddy your hair?

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna do it? Excommunicate me? You're a girl.

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>But you're saying, like before you tied the knot or

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>something like that, you mentioned I.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Think that if you're marrying the right person, they know

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>all that shit. That's yeah, we mention that matter of fact. Yeah,

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>this to me hit me.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>It's like we've been we mentioned ship since I was

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty six.

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have talked about that. We got an art.

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's for the moment they hit me like,

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm with the right person. Last week, while

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>we were in France, ran into a home rob Now

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>since I was seventeen years old. She's sitting in front

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.479
<v Speaker 2>of my man like, let me say an d and

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 2>we was walking down the street Miami and then she was

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 2>doing this and there was not something she could say

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 2>that would have made me scared. I was sitting there

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>look at her like, oh yeah, hahaha. Imagine you're with

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>a partner that you're like this, but she.

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Still gotta make me out.

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>And so that's the thing about it, right, if you're

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:15.479
<v Speaker 2>the right person to be, Yeah, Kennedy say, I'm not

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna post some crazy ship on my close friends about

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>you can't no, baby, I don't get my girl like,

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Anything she would have said, he already knew about it.

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>That's even if you never heard the story.

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>That's saying you know that your person, you gotta know

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you've either lived a life you've had, but they have

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to accept you for that.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Why are we gonna an if you don't nix.

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of why anybody that don't make us

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 2>feel bad about living life. Yeah, And I think that

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>that's what we talk about in the book, Like at

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, like there's a period at

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 2>the end of each chapter. And I said this on

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the Records Club. There's a period at the end of

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>each chapter. But probably next year we can add to

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>each chapter in this book. Like it's still an ongoing journey,

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 2>but like we're not.

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>It's starting.

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>It ain't turning into a pro because the white people here.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you bad at this? All right?

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you that the question what's one of

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 2>the truths that you were scared to write?

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, my shame, okay, I was.

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, ooh, I gotta say I was insecure,

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and I gotta say I didn't value myself. I didn't say, bitch,

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 2>you ain't you was a workless piece of ship. Like literally,

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I put myself in situations that at one point I

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 2>spoke so proudly of when deep down inside you, I

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel good about it, right, And so for me,

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that was the hardest thing to put the paper.

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Was like, oh, yeah, bitch, you you claim.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>To have been confident this whole time and was happy

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 2>your body and was doing this and no, you were

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>seeking validation for men and you're dumb, bitch, yeah, And

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>so like to me, it was holding up.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>The mirror and really being able.

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 2>To be like, Okay, you weren't as strong as you

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>first showed everyone that you were. You weren't as confident,

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.959
<v Speaker 2>and it was really sitting with the fact that, Okay,

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 2>well I learned from it.

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>It's important for you to put it in here.

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think even a part of the book saying

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>it about myself, like the audio version was, it was like, ooh, okay, mirror,

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>all right, you did that.

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're grown, but whoam together?

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Of course, that's gonna help everybody or anybody who reads it,

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, because if they're feeling experience, if they're experiencing

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>that same thing, you know, they can figive themselves as well.

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of women this is gonna be problematic

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 2>take but I'm seeing it unconscious because of what I

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>said on the Brooks Club.

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Accountability is hard for a lot of us. Yes, And

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>so when.

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>We stay in relationships too long, when we're with a

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>person that we know is not good for us in hindsight,

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:04.719
<v Speaker 2>we could sit here and blame that person for all

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 2>the things and can blame them forever and be it's

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>so upset, like, oh, you did this to me, you

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>did this to me, and we don't often look at

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 2>the things we do to ourselves, Well, why were you there?

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>It's because, bitch, you thought that maybe that was the

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 2>best you could get, because you didn't think higher of yourself.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And so for me, having like gone through the therapy

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>and writing this book, it was a lot of that.

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, you was a proud side chick

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>because you ain't think a man really wanted you.

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>So you took the crumbs because you didn't think you

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>could have a whole cake.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 2>And so to me, that's the part about women when

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 2>we can blame our access for being pieces of shit.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>We could blame men, We could blame women for like

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>being who they are. However we date right, but there has.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>To be a moment where we look at ourselves and

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.919
<v Speaker 2>ask or or figure out, well, you say you were there,

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 2>like and why why didn't you leave when you saw

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>the first red flags?

0:34:55.280 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Why did you think? Talking about breaks? And I after?

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>But what I did not think that chapter was that great?

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was just like my ex waiter or whatever.

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Wait the more, that's the way you're talking about. No, no, no,

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying the more. Yeah, and when you know you

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>stay too long, Oh, Okay. The more I talk about.

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 2>It and interviews and ship every people are like, oh yeah,

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I say, in relationship to him, I got a

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>homegirl right now. Every time I called him, like you

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>leave any yet, she can't say. I'm talks about oh

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>my god, he getting wait every week, Oh.

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>My god, my friends in the back. No, I'm talking about.

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, she's not ready to go. Yeah,

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and she's staying too long. And we have all been

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 2>there men too. We've been in relationships where like all

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>my homeboys are staying. In a relationship to him, like, man,

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel bad, she'd go and do it.

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh this just happened. I don't know what to do.

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just easier to stay.

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>It's like, for some reason, leaving feels like the task

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to do eas Henna study without marriage, it feels like

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you need to get reiversed for something.

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So some sometimes people stay because they're waiting. Oh okay,

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm investing. I'm gonna leave here. I'm waiting. I will say.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I know you think about when it was good?

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Are you like that me that that was That's probably

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the dumbest things that I think we grew

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 2>up learning like to me, like the fact that love

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>is hard and you got to chase them the way

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.479
<v Speaker 2>you have to work for it, like all of those

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>negative like tropes around love to me is what I

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 2>talk about, Like I don't even like saying a word. Now.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I love my friends, but these niggas, I don't know

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 2>about that. So like for me, though, it's because that

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 2>word is attached to such toxicity in romantic partnerships that

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 2>it's made me resent the word.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>It's it's surface level.

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 2>It's something that you say, but the actions behind it

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 2>don't often exist. And then once you say it, you

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>feel tied into this relationship over a thing that what

0:36:59.320 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>is it?

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know love is y'all. So, by the way,

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 1>when you read the book, thought I'm out to note,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know what it is like. And

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I have my hang ups with that word specifically because

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>of the use of it.

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:16.959
<v Speaker 2>But wasn't you Weasy who said something about at least

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 2>it was better than that kind of thing.

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, Oh, it's not physical abuse, it's not so.

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>One of the conversations, Caudy, it's crazy. So that didn't

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I just say that a few hours ago? Literally we

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>just recorded, so because we've been working, I ran into

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 2>my ex and it was crazy because I maybe he

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>said a week before, I haven't seen any years. And

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 2>it's been on my mind because this chapter. Everyone that

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.919
<v Speaker 2>interviews us is like, damn, he was terrible. But then

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>when I'm writing a chapter, I'm.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Like, why did I think he was that bad?

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, well, I've been in physically abused the relationship.

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't whipping my ass, he was cheating, So if

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I let the fuck girls anyway, what's the big deal?

0:37:59.239 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>He just lied?

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>And then the other thing was I've been in emotionally

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>if used relationship. People didn't mean to me, never yelled

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 2>at me.

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>We have fun.

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Am I really in a bad relationship? He's just fucking bitches?

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, I never thought

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 2>or had it clicked, Oh, he's disrespecting me, he's lying

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 2>to me, he's not telling me the truth.

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>And not only when is he not telling you truth?

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>When he when they find.

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Out or have a conversation with him, He's like, I

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 2>don't care about them. I mean, we're gonna be there,

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 2>so you know, it's just I didn't.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Tell you you lucky, see. But other women. Bos just

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell you, So it's not that bad and I'd really.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Say that, And that's the thing we start to think

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 2>because it's not as bad as something else I said

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 2>on the breakfast Clob the other day. Comparison is the

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 2>thief of joy, but it's also the reason that we

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 2>sometimes get joy. Let's just say your man cheated on it.

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna say, well, my homegirl got cheated on three

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>times last he didn't do that.

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>It's rationalized so much much.

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 2>It's only do this thing of like, well not this

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>instead of what did I set out for myself if

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I made a list of the things I need from

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>a man or the lady break that w We don't

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.959
<v Speaker 2>to stop acting like there's not that many people out there, yeah,

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 2>because they're actually is and we make.

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Bro let me tell you something.

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>There is there there girl living?

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>This is crazy? Where and how.

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Was your favorite place to start to write? Like where

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 2>did the juices flow at?

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Like? What was great question?

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Because I know my story so I know like how

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 2>it started coming, so I want to know what that.

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Is for you.

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Guy. This is gonna be so cliche, the fucking stories

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>about sex. No, but where where there were you that

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 2>made you, like, made it come to you sometimes before

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the proposal. No, when we're supposed to write the book,

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like you have to find the time, you have

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 2>to find the spider.

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh man, Like, was it.

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Like in the bed on the plane, on the toilet

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 2>in the nine Do you remember the thing about the

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 2>toilet when I texted my friends and my man love you.

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm telling you the

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>toilet and the beach.

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 2>So I went out with my friends, uh, tow them

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>out here. We did some asked it in Mexico and

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 2>when they asked subsided, I said the drug.

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>So I'm there.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm in this moment of just gratitude for friendship and love.

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 2>And I got on the beach and on my phone

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 2>started to write right about how it yes, okay in

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>the notes section of my phone, and I remember my

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>phone was dying and I'm like, and they're charging my

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 2>phone on the time, like, I got to get this out,

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think there was something about a moment of

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 2>release because it was very hard. Our editor Michelle's here

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and to the sexes here and we're like, okay, we

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.280
<v Speaker 2>gotta get this chapter out by Saturday.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>That ship.

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 2>It makes it harder because now you can't be authentic

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>because you got a deadline and we.

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Ain't meet them deadline. So that second fired.

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a deadline person. May and you tell me Saturday,

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I'm gonna buck.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Y'all to cut it off, like you want the email thrust.

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this. The publishing day eight the same.

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 2>It's fine if I needed my time, need my time

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 2>to make magic, and.

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>And it was what it was, so be that as

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>it May, I really did need time.

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Without and she came down off the high started like

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>because what happened was I got to like be out

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 2>of this I need to finish my book brain instead

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 2>of like this book is fun.

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, So the second you know, I went out with

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>friends and had fun.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I got to have this release of like, oh this

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>one it was like to have a good time, and

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't felt that because the book went through ebbs

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 2>and flows of fun for right, Like I went through

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 2>a really serious hard time at the end of the

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>book that you'll read and talk about suicide and depression.

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>So it's like I gotta go back to this.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say I'm having a good day, Oh man,

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I go back to the death chapter. I wanted to

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>kill myself.

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>That ship was hot. You know.

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's saying you're like talking about.

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, So it's really that, it's like finding the

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>sweet spot of making this book pleasurable to write, is

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna make it a good reason, And it was your.

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Place, so y'all know, I'm very yeah.

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 2>So once the proposal was done and I knew all

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the chapters I was gonna write mentally, I saw with

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 2>which ones would be the easier mentally for me.

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So I went through with that first. I was like, okay.

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I went through the ones with tempests. I said, these

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 2>are gonna be tough for me. I'm gonna do therapy

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 2>sessions for those and I'll record them. So eventually, if

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 2>y'all are patrons, I have recorded therapy sessions for certain

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 2>chapters that I planned to.

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm gonna narrate them.

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, I want this process recorded, and so I

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>went through certain therapy sessions.

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Crime who all the shame had to go through therapy sessions.

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>So the ones that were easy were the ones like

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>around sex.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Ironically, the abortion chapter was fairly easy, and so my

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 2>process was Okay, if I need therapy, I go to

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 2>therapy first. Next with tempests, would come to my house

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and we put like four hour blocks. Literally, she would

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:03.320
<v Speaker 2>come to my house for four hours. We'd do a

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 2>mid lunch and like basically.

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 1>What she came over to do was to give me

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk how do I want this chapter? Lay out?

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>What is the theme, what is the arc, what emotions

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>do you want to resonate? What do you want from

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the reader.

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>And she would sit there and help me decide how

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 2>we would write, like how it should flow as a chapter.

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Then she's like, Okay, here's how we said you're gonna

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>write it, so go write it.

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 2>So after those four hours, we'd normally do it for

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like two chapters at a time, sometimes three, and she'd

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 2>be like, okay, so here's your story.

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Here's how you want to tell it. Now put it

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to computer.

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>So what I would do actually is because I'm a

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>morning person, like an idiot, I get my goddamn coffee.

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I would wake up.

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I scheduled the days that I would write, and so

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I would wake up, prepare to write, prepare to tell

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 2>these stories. I'd get my coffee, sit at my sit

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 2>at my dining room table and just type, and sometimes

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I had it in me. Oftentimes I'd be Okay, bitch,

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I need a break. I'm eight pages in. Let me

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 2>call my friend and talk honestly too. I've loved it

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 2>cutties here, and that's why I asked what I would

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 2>be done with some chapters.

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I would send them the Cuddy. Cuddy's written a book,

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>so she'd be like, this is cool, but I don't

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>get what you're trying to stay here.

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>So maybe I had this, and so I had a

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 2>support system between Tempest and Cuddy during writing this this thing.

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 2>But I would honestly do it in the mornings over coffee,

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and I scheduled it like it was a workshift, like

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 2>today I'm working on this. I think I was wired

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>just wheezy, being wheezy writing for me to be a

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 2>different place every time I actually want to tell a

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>story about a friend that to read one of my chapters,

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 2>this was my favorite reaction.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. I'm sorry, but I'm da. She was

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>reading the love chapter where I talked about now you

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>love love love all right girl now, and you know

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>this is my sister.

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 2>So she's reading this thing and I'm looking at her

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 2>for this validation of please, like tell me what you

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 2>think with blah blah blah blah blah.

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm really proud of this. She's holding my phone at the.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Time and reading it, and I remember she's reading it

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of about loud, like a mumba and like okay.

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So then they came inside me. She's looks, you're easy, please,

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 1>And then when he was fucking she's I don't all.

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Right time getting through this, and I'm like, it's kind

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 2>and like it's crazy because what we need from friends

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 2>in this moment need them to hear these stories, right.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 2>So that to me was a funny story because it

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.879
<v Speaker 2>was sexual tempest. Ex has become a friend is reading

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 2>this story about depression and suicide. She's like, Okay, I

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 2>know we need to like I need to give you

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 2>feedback right now?

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I just say? Like whoa? So each time we're

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 1>handing someone something for approval, they're trying to be like

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 1>do I be soft right now? Like what do I do?

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 2>So that was the most interesting part of the writing process,

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 2>sending chapters to friends that have heard nothing even I mean,

0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I hate to make it dark, bro, and your friends

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:02.879
<v Speaker 2>are reading something for the first time.

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Hey, I know this happened to you, but

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck? Mm hmmm. And I feel like, you know,

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys are so connected to us that you will

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>feel the same reading that about Mandy. I read things

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>about Mandy. I've podcasted with Mandy eight years, known her

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 1>since I was fifteen.

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh that made me feel you know

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, So like everyone will connect to this

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 2>in a different way. Yeah, Okay, Well we're gonna wrap

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 2>up here, but I just want to congratulate you guys.

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just want to talk about how a lot

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 2>of people look at people as entertainers, right, not the

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 2>voice as bitches that you guys are right because it's

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 2>a there's a business to it, you know. But in

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:55.240
<v Speaker 2>the book, you guys talk about your your foundation, like school,

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>your old jobs, Like do you still hold on to

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:02.320
<v Speaker 2>that to any degree to feel like that helped you

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:07.719
<v Speaker 2>in this endeavor in this industry because you both were

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 2>in corporate. You both were you know, and it's something

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 2>totally different. You do talk about that part of your

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 2>journey where you guys were at work and you were

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.399
<v Speaker 2>changing clothing, you know, like all of that, you even

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I think mentioned it on the Breakfast Club this morning,

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, so do you guys want to hold on

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to that part of you and and still say like.

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>That propelled me that you know, like that helped, that

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was a foundational piece of what's happening right now? Did

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 1>it help? Did it? Does it not matter?

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Is it totally separate with my credits cord that just

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 2>dropped nail knit and financial lead. I hate the you know,

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.720
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not technically technically using my degrees.

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but so that's what I was gonna say. Technically,

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in a corporate space that you know, I

0:48:58.680 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>got because of my degrees.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:04.719
<v Speaker 2>However, I don't think the like the podcast is here,

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm able to look at the way I am without

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 2>the lens from the things that I learned in school

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and from working in a corporate setting.

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>If you weren't an accountant, you wouldn't have been getting

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:18.399
<v Speaker 1>paid the way that you were. Yes, because well, girl,

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the bartender.

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Bartend has made a lot of money career back in

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 2>the day with the scamml's a scammon, they're not doing

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 2>it no more. But for me to like even the

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>organizational aspects of it, that the deadline has Like you know,

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I come hard off these Excel sheets.

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I make them for everything, And so I

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think.

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I care about a pivotable or how

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 2>pretty an Excel sheet is if I don't go through

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 2>that element.

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 1>And so to me, the organizational aspects of it and

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:46.399
<v Speaker 1>how it makes things easier for me to see.

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I love that I was able to transport that into

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 2>being an entrepreneur, right, I think being a first generation

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:53.720
<v Speaker 2>college graduate.

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>In my family, no one in my family is an entrepreneur.

0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 1>No one in my family has a savings account.

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 2>No one in my family had the opportunities that I've

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 2>had now to travel.

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my mom get a passport so I could

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>take her to Greece.

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Guess where we had to go in twenty nineteen because

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.439
<v Speaker 2>she didn't have a passport. It's Puerto Rico.

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 1>My mom is fifty plus now and I literally am like,

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to get you to see the world.

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 2>And so like my family being being very on grown Orlando, Jamaic,

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 2>like they just they don't really get out. Like for

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>me to have that opportunity to do this, I don't

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>think I do that without going to college and so

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 2>for me constantly for anyone who goes all the way

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 2>back to that, like whether you're using your degree or not,

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:40.839
<v Speaker 2>it's still one of the things that I'm most proud

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 2>of because I was disciplined enough to complete it. But

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that how I've been able to manage

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 2>as an entrepreneur for the last six years exists without that.

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 2>So none of this for me exists for me without that,

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 2>And so I still give credence. I love to talk

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 2>about when I was a corporate that was cool, Like

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I always loved.

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Bringing it back up because it's something that I'm still

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 1>most product Yeah.

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.400
<v Speaker 2>And you, oh girl, love when somebody bring up, well,

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that was the big things to work at mobile. Indeed,

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm very proud of where I've come from. Like just

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 2>my dad was an entrepreneur, and it's interesting because I

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 2>always felt like they were never that proud of me.

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Well I was in college at ground now, but I

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>always felt like that wasn't the most exciting part. And

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 2>so when he got to see me do this in

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:34.280
<v Speaker 2>my life, not to mention just even the financial freedom

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 2>that Mandy and I got to feel when leaving our jobs,

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I just got to see that happening with two friends.

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 2>After starting trap House, yeah, like Pride and our parents

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 2>come into our new space, you know.

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:45.319
<v Speaker 1>And that wasn't my first business I started.

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I started to shout out to the other hell its

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and WTF media and knowing that, like I got to

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 2>be in this seller mode. When I was in corporate,

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I was a seller constantly, right, I was selling everything

0:51:57.520 --> 0:51:59.319
<v Speaker 2>from ethernet I can't even spell it.

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 1>That data recovery software. And it was like people would

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 1>look at me like why is she selling that? Because

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I could fucking sell anything.

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.439
<v Speaker 2>So now today to know that all of the things

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 2>that we've accomplished come from horrible. It's crazy, you know,

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 2>to be in a workout and there's someone that's like,

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, someone just told me just now, Joey over

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 2>there just said something about it, and like Mandy and

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I will be out somewhere and then someone's coming to

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 2>her about her show. Like it's just crazy that we

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 2>are all connected from this thing. So I think that

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 2>our corporate background isn't something even that I think about,

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 2>because I now look at us as entrepreneurs is a

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 2>different way, and all I think about is horrible.

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I almost forgot I had a corporate job. All I

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 1>remember is horrible.

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 2>When I start the new job, there's not a thing

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do on my life. I can start a church,

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 2>it can do. It's just like, girl, we're all stupid, like.

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 1>The try and dat so horrible. Feels like now there's

0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 1>been almost a decade my first job. It's so crazy.

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 2>So I almost treat new things in this corporate setting

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and being professional like it's horrible. I don't have a

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:08.920
<v Speaker 2>meeting I'm in where I don't say something a.

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:11.919
<v Speaker 1>Little bit dirty. Yeah, because this is this is all

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the world.

0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying.

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like where we're at with you and so like

0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you ever had sex on a reformer?

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And I no, no no.

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 2>By the way, y'all, you don't understand how serious you

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Especially when he sees another country.

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 1>It'll be thirteen people on the phone execs. Sorry, guys,

0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:36.839
<v Speaker 1>I was doing blow last night. Me got a girl

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:37.439
<v Speaker 1>to the room.

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 2>It'll be in a corporate fucking college. She's talking about

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 2>how she just had a threesome last night. Introduction is

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that man?

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:51.400
<v Speaker 1>It got the deal done? Maybe I get a lie

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>on it, you know, likes real ship.

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 2>When I was working at audible, they said, oh, do

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 2>you want to listen to your mekhezy at audible? A fuck,

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 2>this this is how me now, Like there's no faking it,

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>like it's just me. I'd be saying, hey, y'all in

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the emails, I just I feel like this is the

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 2>most natural state that I wanted. And the only thing

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I think corporate really taught me was that everything, at

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day is about authenticity. Yeah, like

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was different because I know you were

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:24.760
<v Speaker 2>an accountant, and so for me, I was front facing

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 2>with clients all the time.

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'd be like, nice to meet you, sir, and

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, damn, it's night. Still got the ship done.

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I love being myself and just knowing that we made

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:38.760
<v Speaker 1>this book just being honest. It's fucking crazy. So okay,

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>take youngratuate.

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 2>By the way, we have pro learned that this was

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>only supposed to be a thirty minute a conversation because

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 2>a goddamn how bitch.

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 1>We just kept knowing do you want to leave time

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>for Q? And A next time we don't have a

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 1>time or look at me. I'm like, oh, y'all, I've

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 1>been over.

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.320
<v Speaker 2>We're looking at tongue like, we still gotta sign books,

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 2>but I do want to allow at least time.

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 1>For like three questions.

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:05.640
<v Speaker 2>We love Q and A, we love homeow we loved

0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:08.359
<v Speaker 2>that y'all chose to sit in the basement with us

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 2>and talk and we'll listen to us talk about a

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 2>book that meant so much for us.

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't talk about it. You want to tell

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 1>we won't talk about it. You see all the town.

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Does anybody have a question? I'm glad I didn't wear that.

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:30.479
<v Speaker 1>God damn, can we come on, Lee give us a question?

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, it wasn't specific to I guess the content of

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 3>the book per se, but have versions. I'm going to

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 3>say through asking a book, thank you. I hope you

0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 3>guys really have a moment to really take it in

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 3>because it's no small feed. But I'm curious more so

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 3>around what you guys learned about each other this process,

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 3>because there was a lot of obviously your individual stories.

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 3>But like you said, I think from just a listener perspective,

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:00.400
<v Speaker 3>we get one version of you that we're seeing and

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 3>gotten used to. But I feel like I learned so

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:07.800
<v Speaker 3>much about even stories I already heard in more detail

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.800
<v Speaker 3>and just in different kind of versions of yourself. So

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 3>my question is YouTube knowing each other for what for

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:13.040
<v Speaker 3>most two decades?

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, was there anything I guess specifically that surprised you

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 3>in each other's chapter? What did you learn about each

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 3>other in this process?

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean for me, and this maybe.

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Comes from my upbringing and how I judged, not judged,

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 2>But there was nothing else that.

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted growing up. The money I started working at fifteen.

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I once I got to high school, I paid for

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 2>school supplies and back to school things for me and

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:57.839
<v Speaker 2>my siblings, and I used to always think that money

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:01.040
<v Speaker 2>would have made growing up so much easier and so

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 2>weezy during our even teenage years, living on a different

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 2>side of town than most of my friends and had

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 2>a life that I was like, oh my god, bitch,

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 2>you got a whole movie theater in your house. And

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:14.759
<v Speaker 2>when we got to writing the book and I put

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 2>those things in there, she shied away from those things.

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:22.840
<v Speaker 2>When we had her mom on our most recent Patreon episode,

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 2>it was interesting because her mom was like, yeah, girl,

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.000
<v Speaker 2>spent forty thousand my birthday parties, And you could see

0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the pride in growing up with those financial like things,

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 2>And so for me, it was surprising that Weezy didn't

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 2>really want to drive the Jaguar to high school, that

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 2>she didn't want to talk about growing up in a.

0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Certain way, even though like things changed as she got older.

0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 2>With that financials, I was like, ooh, bitch, there's nothing

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 2>in the world I want more than nepotism, right, And

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:56.439
<v Speaker 2>so for me, a part that I learned was like, damn,

0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:59.880
<v Speaker 2>there can be shame in growing up with things that

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 2>that I would have killed four even just two parents,

0:58:03.800 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't grow up with two parents. I didn't

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like me and my sisters rotated, who shared rooms with

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:11.320
<v Speaker 2>my younger sister, like there were just different things. And

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 2>so when we wrote this book and I leaned into that,

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I was surprised that there wasn't pride in having that

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 2>style of an upbringing because I thought, like, bitch, that's

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 2>what we all would have liked, Like I would have

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:26.400
<v Speaker 2>been able to go to more field trips, or my

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.680
<v Speaker 2>dad to be able to like like me, not having

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 2>to go ask my dad for shit. So that was

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 2>just I think surprising that there could be shame in

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<v Speaker 2>that type of lifestyle and privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, that's what I learned. Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about that on the pod more

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<v Speaker 2>because for me it was more so you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching my parents lose money in real time, so

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, I'm just like, oh, I know that

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the more you're gonna be paid, I know that people

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<v Speaker 2>come over, I know that there's foreclosure, like as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 2>and that point where I could be prideful, how I

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<v Speaker 2>will take The thing I learned the most is probably

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<v Speaker 2>healing in real time. There were stories that you were telling.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're on the podcast telling each other's stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Ahakey key.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more that I would read the stories, especially

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talking about sex for money, and it's even

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<v Speaker 2>hard to say that because I know you don't even

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<v Speaker 2>really want to talk about that in fress, but you

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<v Speaker 2>brought it up for.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in a room like this, But I ain't going

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<v Speaker 1>on breakfast clo, like, yeah, I'll understand money.

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<v Speaker 2>When Mandy was talking about the way she felt reading

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<v Speaker 2>it was making me feel really sad because my chapter

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<v Speaker 2>was different.

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like sugar dad, right, I was like fuck Ariada

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty of these stories. It's like you can see

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 2>two different experiences and so yeah, to answer the question fully,

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<v Speaker 2>with Mandy's chapters, the healing in real time was happening

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<v Speaker 2>while hearing the stories, like maybe that little bit of

0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:01.360
<v Speaker 2>shame was back there, but we we are on a

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<v Speaker 2>show where we gotta be liberated for everybody, so we

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<v Speaker 2>better tell this with a smile on our face.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was Dot.

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<v Speaker 2>It was knowing that she had to come to these

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<v Speaker 2>realizations sitting next to me every week on the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that ship isn't easy. It's like when you find

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<v Speaker 1>out someone that you work with is going through a

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<v Speaker 1>really hard time. You're like, what the fuck? How you

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<v Speaker 1>being here? Smiling? You know it's sheriffy Yeah, and vodka

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll do We'll do one more question because I

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<v Speaker 1>know we gotta sign these books. Burns off.

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<v Speaker 2>You will ask me questions I do if you don't mind,

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<v Speaker 2>If there's anyone you will get it. You'll get the

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<v Speaker 2>last question because you was in the conversation up here

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<v Speaker 2>in the front seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have because I know we got some war

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<v Speaker 1>Hive members in here? What's that? No Amy with that care?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have any in the back and all I know,

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<v Speaker 1>like y'all just.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the books today, all right, our first day listener

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<v Speaker 2>everything that what was a turning point for y'all to

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<v Speaker 2>for the y'all authentic so.

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<v Speaker 1>Fully.

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<v Speaker 2>So It's funny because when we started this podcast, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've said this before, I was about to be a CPA.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad is Jamaican and so as a bartender working

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<v Speaker 2>in the clubs and all that, he used to always say,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're gonna get a real job. It was always

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<v Speaker 2>about getting a real job. Yeah, so he does construction,

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<v Speaker 2>blue collar. My mom is an LPN still trying to

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<v Speaker 2>pass these math classes to get a R rate.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for me it was when we first started

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<v Speaker 1>this pod, I was like, yeah, I don't mind sharing this.

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<v Speaker 1>I tweeted, I lived this life. I don't mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it don't make no money, I'm about to be

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<v Speaker 1>an accountant because I want to be taken serious. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be your wife.

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<v Speaker 2>If y'all hear me talk about twenty four to seven,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember like, oh here, rapper, I can't bring him

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<v Speaker 2>to my Christmas parties.

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<v Speaker 1>When I become an accountant, I need to get a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I had this view, this traditional view of what

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<v Speaker 2>life should look like when I get into certain spaces

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. And so it wasn't really until honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>probably started touring. And as we started touring and we

1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:21.520
<v Speaker 2>started meeting y'all, my stories changing people, my stories making

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<v Speaker 2>people cry or get through the things that they were

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<v Speaker 2>going through. And I told this to Charlemagne in the

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<v Speaker 2>South of France in front of everybody, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. We were, you know, in the South of France,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, thank you for being my baby day,

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<v Speaker 2>because this book is a baby. But I told him,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, without the push and support from him, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what my purpose is.

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<v Speaker 1>And my purpose is now this.

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<v Speaker 2>My purpose is now being able to touch people with

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<v Speaker 2>with my stories and my vulnerability, whether it keeps a nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>From dating me or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the front line for y'all. To me, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't until I realized this is a bigger picture than me.

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<v Speaker 2>We say that that's why this pot is still here,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we have a book. We don't fault quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit. We might not always see the same things

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, but whenever we really get to where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I I, it's always like this shit is

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<v Speaker 2>bigger than both of us, and like when we meet

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, when we see people buying our book. This

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<v Speaker 2>is where I was like, well here, yep, I did it,

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<v Speaker 2>not OJ style, I did it. It's here, it exists.

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<v Speaker 2>I am me, and I don't feel like I have

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<v Speaker 2>that without meeting our hive. Okay, sorry a yell er hot,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just try to make mine quick. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a moment I had.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know a lot of us may never.

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<v Speaker 2>Get approval from our parents or our family, especially the

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<v Speaker 2>queer few people in here, like they're just always going

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<v Speaker 2>through some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't get us. But I had a moment to

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<v Speaker 1>let me know this is her accepting me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck about anyone else. Says, there's

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<v Speaker 2>my ex girlfriend. I brought her to my mom's house

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<v Speaker 2>and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Knew it was my girlfriend, but she just was like ever,

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<v Speaker 1>she just eat busy today. This will be over with soon.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go out to eat and we run into

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<v Speaker 1>a girl, her mother from high school. And this was

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<v Speaker 1>the cool girl, super rich, like just.

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<v Speaker 2>It and my mom was like, why does she looks

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<v Speaker 2>at the annoy I'm like, oh, that's Rossie's mom, And

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<v Speaker 2>so she says, what's Rossie doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>And the woman said, Rossie's a doctor and she's working

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<v Speaker 1>in a blah blah blah blah blah and all this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sitting there with my girlfriend and my.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom goes, well, Gila has a sex podcast and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>listens to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good. I mean, it's everywhere and she's all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place. That's your girlfriend. Anyway, I have been there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna watch it on TV on the YouTube one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a podcaster. I had a doctor, and my mom's like,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter really yours that? Like, what do I give

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<v Speaker 1>a ship about anybody else? Now, my father and y'all know,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know because I've opened up about it.

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<v Speaker 2>If he wants in a nursing home, he literally tells people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my daughter, she's like doctor, she talks about it, talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About this sex and all did the sex. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just my reality. And at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I take care of my parents with this fucking money,

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<v Speaker 1>So sucking dick story is safe. We wouldn't have been here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, by it's very thank thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And we will make sure for anyone's book that we

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<v Speaker 2>have not signed, because also this is the work night, school.

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<v Speaker 1>Night, all the things. Y'all gotta get home and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to eat, but we want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>we signed all books. And thank you guys personally for

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<v Speaker 2>coming out to the basement to join us in a

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<v Speaker 2>heat wave on a Tuesday, but most importantly on the

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<v Speaker 2>release date of This Guy.