1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleven Rio to Washington, 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: d C. Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve hundred to San Francisco, 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to the country, US exam General one, and around 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the globe the Bloomberg Radio, Plowstappen, Bloomberg dot Com. This 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: is taking Stock. I'm Kathleen Hayes along with PM Fox 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: on the road again, broadcasting live from the Kmton Morrison 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: House Hotel in Alexandria, Virginia, the Washington metro area home 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: of Bloomberg One. Taking a look now, pim at retail. 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: You know what, no matter where you are, you can 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: go online and buy stuff. I wonder what it means 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: for brick and mortar people here in Alexandria. Yes, well, 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: and we know what it means for a lot of 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: retailers such as Macy's as well as Nordstrom's after learning 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: about their quarterly results that we'll be speaking with Christian Magoon. 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: He's the chief executive and the founder of Amplify Investments, 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: about a new et. Fit's got online retail All right, 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: right now, let's got Charlie Pelletan the Bloomberg News and 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Business FLA and I thank you Tim, Thank 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: you Kathleen. Stocks aren't trading at the worst level of 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: the day. This update brought to you by Pershing's Insight 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: sixteen conference, a must attend for advisers June seventh through 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: the ninth in Orlando, Florida. Register at Insight dot com. 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: That is I N S, I T E twenty six 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: dot com. Two regional Fed bank presidents say at least 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: two interest rate increases may be warranted this year because 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: the economy continues to expand and inflation is picking up, 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: pushing back against expectations the Central Bank will delay action 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: next month. Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta President Dennis Lockhart 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: says his assumption is to possibly three moves this year. 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: He was joined at the Politico hosted event by San 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Francisco Fed colleague John Williams, who said, quote gradual means 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: two to three rate increases this year. Torsten sloss Block 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: is chief international economist at Deutsche Bank. He was interviewed 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: this morning on Bloomberg Television. One very important driver of 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: rates is the economy. So if inflation goes up, rates 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: go Upflasing go down as rates go down, but in 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: this globalized world, with fifty percent of treasuries held by 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: foreigners and fifty percent held domistically, those foreigners are actually 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: really important. So that's why both private foreigners and central 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: banks have brought a very important drivers. And the supply 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 1: in the US off treasuries has actually been declining quite 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: substantially over the last sevil year. Right now, we've got 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: the down down two hundred and four points, a drop 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: of one p SMP down twenty two, a drop of 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: one point one percent, gold up four tenths of one 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: percent to twelve seventy eight. Right now it is twelve two. Charlie, 47 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: thank you from the Bloomberg news room. On Mark Crumpton, 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: how Speaker Paul Ryan is reacting to a new poll 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: that shows more Republican voters trust Donald Trump to lead 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: the GOP than the speaker room. So he's wrapping up 51 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: the nomination. Good Lord, I hope it is because the 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: person who is getting the nomination of our party is 53 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: the person to lead our party. The chairman of the 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: National Transportation Safety Board testified today about last year's deadly 55 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Amtrak crash in Philadelphia. Christopher Heart says speed controls on 56 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the tracks would have provided a safety night. If a 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: PTC system had been active there, this train would not 58 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: have derailed on the curve. Close to two hundred passengers 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: would not have been injured, and eight other passengers would 60 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: still be alive. Today, the crash killed a people. The 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: debate about funding the US fight against Zekea continues. House 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: Republicans have proposed spending about six twenty two million dollars 63 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: to fight the spread of zeka in the US. It's 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: only about a third of the one point nine billion 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: dollars requested by President Obama. The House version would be 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: financed by cutts to unspent funding passed to battle a 67 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: bowl up. Florida Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz is calling on 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Congress to approve President Obama's proposal. This is such an 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: urgent issue that Governor Scott, Senator Rubio, President Obbama, and 70 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: myself agree agree on it. The House could vote on 71 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: their funding measure this week. Michael Barr Bloomberg Radio of 72 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Federal Appeals Court is delaying the release of a list 73 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: of co conspirators in the thirteen George Washington Bridge Lane 74 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: closing scandal. The ruling calls for a June sixth hearing 75 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: to decide whether to release the list. 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That is a drop of one percent. 86 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Palette. That's a Bloomberg Business flash bus. He's 87 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: taking stoff with Kathleen Hayes and Pim Box on Bloomberg Radio, 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: continuing our line broadcast here at the Kenton Morrison House 89 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Hotel in Alexandria, Virginia. We're in the Washington metro area 90 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: of the nation's capital, home of Bloomberg one. No matter 91 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: where you are, retail is certainly a big question right 92 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: now for investors and for the markets. Some news out 93 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: on e commerce sales. They were up eleven year over 94 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: year last month. Sounds good and it is, except it's 95 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: the lowest rate of recorded so far this year. Following 96 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: a tough month broadly for retails retailers, which we saw 97 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: in the government's retail sales last week. We're gonna put 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: a focus now on e commerce as we introduced our 99 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: next guest, Christian Magoon. He's CEO of Amplify Investments. He's 100 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: got a new e t F and he's got a 101 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: lot to tell us about what's going on with online commerce. 102 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Christian, Thanks appreciate you. So how 103 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: did you? First of all, let's talk about e commerce 104 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: and uh, your new e t F. It's it's unique 105 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: and it gives people a chance to invest in e 106 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: commerce plays, which you can't do with a lot of 107 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: retail sales e t f s. That's right. We saw 108 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity. Online sales are growing at a pretty a 109 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: significant rate in the U s and and globally, and 110 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: there wasn't an e t F that really focused on 111 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: companies that had a majority of their revenue coming from 112 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: online retail sales. So we launched I Buy to take 113 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: advantage of that. A company has to have sevent or 114 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: more of their revenue from online retail sales to be 115 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: in the index and thus in the e t F. 116 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: Give us a little bit of your own history, because 117 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: you have been an expert and a industry creator in 118 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: exchange traded funds. Christian. Yeah, thanks, Pim. I've been doing, uh, 119 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: been launching et F since two thousand five. I've launched 120 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: over six the e t F in the United States, 121 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: many of them first to market products, first solar et F, 122 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: the first brick ETF. Uh. This is kind of in 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: that same line, launching the first online retail ETF, trying 124 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: to access a unique market segment that's complementary to the 125 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: existing e t F selection that is out there. So 126 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm not all about I'm launching e t s for 127 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: et F sake. We have to provide new market segments 128 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: and exposure, and that's what I Buy did in our opinion. 129 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: So e commerce is has certainly grown rapidly, uh, And 130 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: it's happening in environment where the traditional brick and mortar 131 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: retail part of this was already very overstored, right, and 132 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: people are already kind of wondering where we're kind of 133 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: fall up there would be we're seeing a lot of 134 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: retail bankruptcies this year. How do you how do you 135 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: measure e commerce and what do you look for when 136 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: you go to put a company in one of your 137 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: e t s. But this one in particular, your I 138 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: buy Yes, so UM I buy as an index based 139 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: e t F. It seeks to track before fees and expenses, 140 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: the e q M Online Retail Index. So the index 141 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: provider actually has to go into all the retail companies 142 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: really globally that meet a minimum market cap and trading 143 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: volume history and then go into their balance sheets and 144 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: determine the percentage of revenue they receive from online retail sales. 145 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: And the benchmark that they've created is a company must 146 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: have seventy or more of their sales coming from online 147 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: retail to be me and the index. So that involves 148 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: a fair amount of going into company financials. It's not 149 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: like we're just buying the fifty largest market cap companies 150 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: in that space UM and we feel like that's an 151 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: item of value to investors. What's interesting is you see 152 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: about forty three companies actually qualified globally UM, majority of 153 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: them in the US UM Under those criteria. Christian, let 154 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: me just throw a couple of names at you just 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: maybe you can expand on the concept so that we 156 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: understand the strategies that are so diverse in the online 157 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: retailer and retail space uh EPs, blue Nile, over Stock, 158 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: dot Com, grub Hub, uh H s N, price Line, 159 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: shutter Flow, eBay, Expedia, Netflix, tell us about how they 160 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: all come together Amazon. Right, So there's really three types 161 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: of companies in the e t F PIM. The largest 162 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: allocation is traditional retailers. It's about six of the e 163 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: t F and these are companies like pet meds, UM, 164 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: companies like lands and that are doing again seventy or 165 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: more of their sales from through an online channel. The 166 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: second largest waiting is UM online marketplace companies, and these 167 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: are companies that really create a place for you to 168 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: buy and sales, so think of eBay, think of etc. 169 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: For example. And then the final area is online travel. Expedia, 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: trip Advisor are are great examples. Priceline again, UM companies 171 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: that are providing travel services UM in UM receiving the 172 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: majority of their sales from online. So you get a 173 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: diverse group of companies UH in these three different market 174 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: segments and then about seventy US exposure outside the US. 175 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: So what is your bet on online retail? Has it? Uh? 176 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: Is it starting to plateau? I mean I still buy 177 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: most everything in stores. I may never change much my 178 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: daughter buys more online? Uh? Or or do you think 179 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: this continues to grow? This play out? Yeah, that's a 180 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: great question, Kathleen. Currently, even though a lot of people 181 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: are familiar with online retail sales, it's only seven and 182 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: a half percent of US total total US retail sales. 183 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: So we think they're um this, This has room to 184 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: maybe double or triple over the next four or five years, 185 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: and we've seen research that supports that. So I think 186 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: it continues to grow dramatically. Christian, will you come back 187 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: and spend time with us some time in the future, 188 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: because I'd love to talk to you about social media 189 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: and what you're doing there were you absolutely him? 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