1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Think about it. What if 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: your teen boy simply disappeared, just seemingly vanished off the 3 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: phase of the earth, and then you find his boots? 4 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: What does it mean? And why are we not getting 5 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: any support from law enforcement? You know what I call 6 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: nine one one. I expect somebody to answer and do 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: something about it. That's why we pay taxes. Right we 8 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: pin our hopes on law enforcement. And listen to me, 9 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: law enforcement in these two jurisdictions, we need your help, 10 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: not your resistance. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. 11 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation 12 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: in series XM one eleven. I'm talking about ten boy 13 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: Dylan Rounds. Take a lessen to our friends at Fox thirteen. 14 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: This land in Lucin, Utah might not look like much, 15 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: but to nineteen year old Dylan Rounds, it was everything. 16 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: This is the pond he dug out. He'd talked to 17 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: me about plant trees around it and stock and fish 18 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: in it, and it was just one of his little dreams. Now, 19 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: it's been almost a week and a half since Dylon 20 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: last returned to his camper. His dad, Justin says his 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: son was last seen Memorial Day weekend at the Saddlesore Saloon, 22 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: a bar thirty miles weston Montello, Nevada. I'm convinced that 23 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: it's foul play. Every vehicle he has a retractor. Everything 24 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: is accounted for and in place. One of the last 25 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: conversations Dylan had with his dad was about his excitement 26 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: for the crop he had just planted. He wanted to 27 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: see a grow. He wasn't going to leave. There was 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: nothing that was going to take him away from here. 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, think of the thing you love the most 30 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: in the world. I know what it is. It's my children, John, 31 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: David and Lucy. Nothing but then my power could separate 32 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: me from them. Now, I grew up in farmland, and 33 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: a farmer loves his or her lands. It's a love 34 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: I can't even describe. And this teen boy, Dylan Rounds 35 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: loved his land. His hopes, his dreams, his plans, his 36 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: futures all wrapped up in that land. So why would 37 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: he leave it? He wouldn't. With me an all star 38 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: panel to make sense of what we know right now 39 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: about the disappearance of this teen boy, Dylan Rounds. But 40 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: before I introduce them, I want to go to a 41 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: very special guest joining us. This is Dylan's mother, Candice Cooley. 42 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Miss Killy, thank you for being with us. You're welcome, 43 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Miss Coolly. Before I get into 44 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: the entire story about what you've been through, what your 45 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: family's discovered so far in the search you did just 46 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: about forty eight hours ago, I want you to tell 47 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: me about the moment you realize Dylan is missing. So 48 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: it was Memorial Day, Monday, May thirtieth, and Dylan's friend 49 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: JD called me around eleven o'clock. I was working in 50 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: my office and asked if I had heard from Dylan, 51 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: and I said no, and he said, well, Karen called 52 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: and said they haven't heard from him from Saturday. Now, 53 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: it is not typical for Dylan to go two or 54 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: three days without talking to him, but he always talks 55 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: to either myself, his father, Justin, or his grandparents. So 56 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: when we put together that he had not talked to 57 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: any of us, that's when I instantly knew, because he's 58 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: always in contact with one of the three. And my 59 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: husband and I packed up and headed down because I 60 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: knew they had just and especially where he had been planting. 61 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: He was just trying to finish up before the rain, 62 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: because there was rain in Lusin that weekend to make 63 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: sure his crop was in. And I knew because he 64 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: should have called us all and been like, I finished, 65 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: it's done. I got it in, you know, and the 66 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: rain's going to get on it. This is great. And 67 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: nobody had heard anything since Saturday morning, May twenty eighth, 68 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: at six fifty one. Am, okay, how are you pinpointing 69 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: that time? Saturday morning at six fifty one phone records 70 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: as phone wreckers, yep, okay, And what does that fine 71 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: wreckerd reveal? So he'd called his talk to his grandmother actually, 72 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: and she called him and he said, I can't talk, 73 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta get my seed truck, my rain truck. 74 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: He has a ten wheeler full of his trip to 75 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: kay seed. I got to get it in the shed. 76 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: It's raining, because you know, the rain will we're in 77 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: the seed. He had a tarp on it, but it 78 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the best tarp there is hole. So he was 79 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: just trying to protect his seed and take it to 80 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the shop that love a little shed that's five miles 81 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: away to protect it. And then he said, I'll call 82 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: you back. And nobody has heard from m section and 83 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: that was six fifty one am on May twenty eight, correct. 84 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: And May twenty eight was what day of the week, Saturday, 85 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: So he was working on Saturday morning before seven am. Correct. 86 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: Always God, get up, burning, get going. A lot of 87 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: people don't can't connect with farmers hours. We grew up 88 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: on farmers hours, so I'm up every day at least 89 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: at five. But most people are on you know, they 90 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: revolving around going to school and work. Correct, But it's 91 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: not typical. It is typical for him to be up 92 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: very early in the morning, So speaking to his grandmother 93 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: six fifty one am would have been normal. Correct. And 94 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: the only time you know, he'd sweep in it'd be 95 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: if he was up al and hay on that you know, 96 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: he won't doesn't go to bed till four in the morning. 97 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: Five in the morning, you know, so he'll sleep till eight. 98 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: You know. That's a pretty big endeavor for a nineteen 99 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: year old boy to be running his own farm. How 100 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: did that happen? So his grandfather and him partnered on 101 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: this farm where the family farm is with his father's 102 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: up in eastern Idaho, the Idol Falls area, and ground 103 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: is just too expensive, so Dylan's always done custom work 104 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: since he was sixteen, you know, working for farmers. He 105 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: got a tractor, he got a baylor, he could do 106 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: custom work, and he's been saving and saving, and so 107 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: him and his grandfather partnered on this farm so that 108 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: he could start doing his own the last couple of years. 109 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: You know, he hauls beat in a semi, a full 110 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: semi in Idaho, you don't have to have a cdo 111 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: or be twenty one. He's done that for two years. 112 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: So he's been constantly saving money, you know, so that 113 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: he can work towards putting his crop in what is 114 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: custom work. So that's bailing somebody else's hay hauling some 115 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: but he else's product swatthing, somebody else's hey also just 116 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: doing the same exact work, but doing it with your equipment. 117 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: But it's somebody else's crop, gotcha. But now he's doing 118 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: his own thing on that landing and his grandfather partner 119 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: on right. He still does both. So he spent half 120 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: of the sprain helping the wine cup gamble tear out 121 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: some ground. He drilled all of their grain to make 122 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: money to be able to purchase the seat and do 123 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: everything on his own farm. So he still does both. 124 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean the kid works all the time. The only 125 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: time he gets a little bit of free time is 126 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: a winner when you can't farm to doctor Jerry Crows 127 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: and joining me psychologist Faculties, Saint Leo University, an author 128 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: of Operation s O S. Doctor Jerry, thank you for 129 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: being with me. I'm listening to Kendice Coolly. This is 130 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: Dylan's mom and I'm learning something about him and this 131 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: is very important to the investigation. And I'll ask Deputy 132 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Chief Elwood and Justin Borman to jump in on this. 133 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: But if you trust somebody to come on your farm 134 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: and harvest you your crop and tear up your ground aerate, 135 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: tear up your ground, prepare your ground, bringing the crop, 136 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: that is a very trustworthy, reliable person. Somebody that's up 137 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: at four and five in the morning, works till four 138 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: am bringing in a crop. That tells me this is 139 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: not like a lot of people that go missing. They're 140 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: out on the street, they're doing drugs, they're in crack houses, 141 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: they're at a bar till three o'clock in the morning. 142 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: You don't know who they're coming in contact with. You 143 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: see what I mean, This is not a high risk life. 144 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: It's a hard working life. Somebody trustworthy that people want 145 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: on their farm. I mean, you got to really trust 146 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: somebody to have them on your farm, possibly with your 147 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: equipment and your land and your crop. That's your future. 148 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: That's your money for the whole next year is that crop. 149 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: And people will bring this nineteen year old boy in 150 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: to do a man's work. That's very I tell you 151 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: what tailby Candice he started. So when Dylan was fourteen thirteen, 152 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen, he was so frustrated because no farmer could 153 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: hire him because of workman's comp issues in Idaho. So 154 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: when he turned sixteen, he was so happy. We have 155 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: a huge potato farmer here named Albert Lockwood, and they 156 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: hired Dylan at sixteen to come drive a crossover. So 157 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: your crossover digs a whole bunch of rows of potatoes, 158 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: puts them into one single row so that the main 159 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: harvester can come over. You know, you don't have to 160 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: do so much work. It just cuts down some of 161 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: the work. That's the pictures of him on the tractor 162 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: I put on Facebook yesterday, sixteen years old, and you 163 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: have albertson older gentlemen, late seventies. I'm not exactly sure. 164 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: You have him who's done potatoes his whole life, saying, 165 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: this is one of the best operators I've ever had. 166 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: This kid has it. That wasn't sixteenth Time Stories with 167 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Some people are just born to do a 168 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: certain thing, and this is what Dylan was born to do. 169 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: It's in his blood and he's really good at it. So, 170 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: doctor Jerry, that's telling me a lot about where is Dylan. 171 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: It's not that he's out in some bar, getting beaten 172 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: up in a parking lot, or overdosing in drugs, on 173 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: drugs and an alley. That's not what has happened. No, 174 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: not at all. You know, I'm a behaviorist and we 175 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: always say if you want to predict future behavior, you 176 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: have to know past behavior. And look at his last 177 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: three years. I mean, he is a very diligent, dedicated worker. 178 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: He's very organizing. He's got a schedule, he sticks to it, 179 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: even the time his free time he's gone to visit friends, 180 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: and he's back to be able to work that's right 181 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: in the morning. So you know, for him all of 182 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: a sudden to be removed from that schedule, there had 183 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: to be an outside force to remove him. You're hearing 184 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: the voice of doctor Jerry Cross and and Dylan's mother, 185 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Kennis Cooley. Now take a listen to Emily Tensor. The 186 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: Box Elder County Sheriff's Department and Weeber County Fire and 187 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Rescue search the area last week, along with helicopters, a plane, 188 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: and search parties on foot, hvs and horses. They call 189 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: off the search Box Elder because they were ninety five 190 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: percent sure there's nothing no sign of Dylan out in 191 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: the three by five mile area. His boots were found 192 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: five miles west of his camper. I'll never forget to 193 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: look on Kansas's face. I can only imagine what I 194 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: looked like when we saw those boots. Each day is 195 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: agony for his family who live all the way up 196 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: in Idaho. They're offering a twenty thousand dollars reward to 197 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: bring Dylan home. I just came back today just to 198 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of poke around because I can't hardly leave here. 199 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: At twenty thousand is burning a hole in my pocket. 200 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: I want to spend it today. If you know anything 201 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: about Dylan's disappearance, his family is begging you to call police. 202 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: He's five to ten ways around one hundred and sixty 203 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: pounds with brown hair and brown eyes. We gotta find 204 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: this boy. This is such a good, good boy. You 205 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: don't believe me. Take a listen to Dave Mack Crime online. 206 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Dylan Rounds has been a farmer since he was a 207 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: little boy. From the time he could walk, he would 208 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: try to keep up with his dad and grandpa as 209 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: they worked outside. Dylan could drive a tractor by himself 210 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: before most kids his age could ride a bike. When 211 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: he was ten years old, Dylan was growing pumpkin patches 212 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: in sweetcorn to sell. Citizens of the Rigby community knew 213 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: every summer there would be Dylan sweetcorn for sale under 214 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: the County Line overpass. Dylan attended Brigby High School and 215 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: began farming grain a few years ago in the desert 216 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: town of Loosen, Utah, near the Utah Nevada border. And 217 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people Dylan's age, we'll get 218 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: excited about the game that Friday night or something happening 219 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: in there's social yeah, and Dylan go ahead. He never 220 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: did any that. He wasn't. He wasn't the football game kid. 221 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: He wasn't. He didn't socialize in any of that. I 222 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: mean Dylan. It worked out perfect for Dylan because he 223 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: was doing online school so he could farm, and then 224 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: COVID hit and he was the right age that he 225 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: could drop out because he was working. So Dylan drew. 226 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and yes, his father and I didn't like 227 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: the fact that he dropped out, But the fact of 228 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: the matter is there was no stopping the kid. There 229 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: was no stopping him. There was nothing we could do 230 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: to stop him from going to farm. That's all he 231 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: wanted to do. He also, you take a kid who 232 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: doesn't even know how to play video games in his generation, 233 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: and that summed it all up. Wow, doesn't know how 234 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: to play video games. That really does summon up what 235 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: would make Dylan Rounds happy? This team boy take a 236 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: listen to Dave Mattcrime online dot com. Dylan lives by 237 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: himself and a camper trailer on a remote piece of 238 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: land in Loosen. Family members last heard from him when 239 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: he called his grandmother the morning of Saturday, May twenty eighth. 240 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Dylan had been busy getting his crops in and was 241 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: really excited about recent rain, but a little down because 242 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: the rain prevented him from getting all of the planting done. 243 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: With the rain, putting a damper on his farming activity. 244 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Dylan drove thirty miles to the town of Montello, Nevada, 245 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: where he was seen on a Royal Day weekend. When 246 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: family members realized Dylan had not been in contact since 247 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: he spoke to his grandmother, they began trying to get 248 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: in touch with him. Failing that, the family went to 249 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: the farm and immediately called law enforcement for help. Joining 250 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: me right now, special guests Nate Eton, our friendly colleague 251 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: and news director of East Idaho News dot com. You 252 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: can find him on Twitter at Nate news Now. Nate, 253 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: start at the beginning, don't leave anything out. Well. As 254 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: Candace said, the seals started when Dylan spoke with his 255 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: grandmother that Saturday morning. You said, I gotta get gotta 256 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: get off the phone so that I can get this 257 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: set in. And then by Monday morning, when the family 258 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: had not heard anything from him, they drove to the farm. 259 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: What's interesting is when I spoke with Candice the other day, Nancy, 260 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: Dylan's pickup truck was still there, but it appeared as 261 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: if it had been pressure washed. It was clean, but 262 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: it had been raining and it was muddy in that area. 263 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: So somehow that truck got clean and was left there 264 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: right outside of Dylan's camp camp or where he was sleeping. 265 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't like that. And Candice Coolly, I hear you 266 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: jumping in. Guys, this is Dylan's mother and we are 267 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: begging you for help finding Dylan. She's saying that the 268 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: truck looked pressure washed, and I just, Candas say that 269 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: there were no tracks, and you think there would have 270 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: been since it had been rainy. But also tell me 271 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: about the seat position. A lot of you may remember 272 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: the Tara Grinstead case, this gorgeous teacher down in South 273 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: Georgia who goes missing. Well, one thing that jumped out 274 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: at me when we first learned Tara's missing. I was 275 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: talking to her mother about it was that her seat 276 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: position was not where she would have had. It was 277 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: way back. Like when I'm five to one, when I 278 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: get in the car and my husband, who was six 279 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: to three has been in the car. I have to 280 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: push it up right, same thing here, right, Candas Cooley, Yes, 281 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: exact same thing. And I am for eleven and Dylan 282 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: is between five ten and five eleven, and he is 283 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: all late. His seat is all the way back, his 284 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: steering was up, and it was I could drive it. 285 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: I could have comfortably drove it without movies the seats, 286 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: So that's not right at all. And there were no 287 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: tracks behind the pickup. It was muddy when myself and 288 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: my husband Just and his father and our daughter Brooklyn 289 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: pulled in. We left tracks on Monday. Still, if that 290 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: pickup would have moved Saturday, there would have been tracks. Also, 291 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: there's no footprint anywhere around that camper. And we were 292 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: told the two gentlemen that worked with Dylan were well. 293 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: The one helped him off and on went out to 294 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: the farm too fine. Dylan walked around the pickup, walked 295 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: around the camper, tried to you know what's going on? 296 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Why didn't they leave footprints? We were leaving footprints on Monday. 297 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: You know. Kurt Nermie joining me as you know him, 298 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: a renowned defense attorney, cast member Radical Body Transformation Season three, 299 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime, and author of Trap with miss Arius. You 300 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: will remember him from defending jaud Arius. Kurt Nermie, I'm 301 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: not holding that against you. Isn't it true? How one detail, 302 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: like we're talking about his truck, you can learn so 303 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: much from one piece of evidence, Kurt Army. Yeah, you know, Nancy, 304 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: when I think about this truck and the possible pressure 305 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: washering and the movement of the seat. I wonder about 306 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: how far it travels. Did somebody have to buy gas 307 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: in order to get this vehicle around? How many gas 308 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: stations are there in town? Have they been looking one? 309 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: Have these workers been questioned? So there's not too many 310 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: people in this circle. You know, this is an industrious 311 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: young man, passionate about his farming. He's not going to 312 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: be distracted by too much. And we know that he 313 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: had these two workers, and it appears from what my 314 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: understanding is, none of these people have been questioned that. 315 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if the gas station, if there's footage, 316 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: what have you, But there should be some follow up 317 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: on those things because those practical things that stem from 318 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: the truck. Where was it? Pressure wash? Is there a 319 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: car wash somewhere? Did somebody have? All these things need 320 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: to be looked at. No, there's no car Montea was 321 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: a town of two hundred people in the Millinois. Dylan 322 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: has a pressure washer on his farm for his equipment. Okay, 323 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: so it could have been that. Guys, we're talking about 324 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: the disappearance of a teen boy Dylan rounds Now. The 325 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: first thing I would be considering, and I'm going to 326 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: go out to you. Justin Boorman, former Special Victims Unit detective, 327 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: author of I Was Wrong, Investigator's battle cry for change 328 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: within the Special Victims Unit. Justin, I want to look 329 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: at his circle, who knows him, who would he be with, 330 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: and let me understand something Nate Eton East, Idaho News 331 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: dot com. Was he seen by anyone after he spoke 332 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: to the grandmother at six fifty one a m Saturday 333 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: five twenty eight, So police are saying that the cell 334 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: phone from that phone call was pinging on his farm. 335 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: But he actually his last visible scene, last time somebody 336 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: physically saw him was in the bat about thirty miles 337 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: away before or after the phone call. That was before 338 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: the phone call was okay, Canada, all right, So he 339 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: was thirty miles away in Nevada before the phone calls 340 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: to The last positive location is on his farm based 341 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: on the ping to his grandma six fifty one am 342 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: Saturday morning, five twenty eight, he's working, okay, Justin jump in, yes, ma'am. 343 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: So you know, one of the things that I certainly 344 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: would have focused on would have been some of the forensics, 345 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: of course, swabbing the gears right. That would certainly been 346 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: something that still could be done. Why box Elder has 347 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: not done a lot of that. Let me let me 348 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: tell you real quick, box Elder. Let us take the 349 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: pickup home two hundred and fifty miles away. They allowed 350 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: us to take the pickup home Sunday without processing it fits. 351 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: They never touched the pickup. And I've got that message 352 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: from the detective thing, can we take the pickup home? 353 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: You need it, It's yours, do whatever you want with it. 354 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: They processed nothing guy, not the pickup, not the Green Trust, 355 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: not the campers, nothing. The boots didn't even make it 356 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: to the lab. We found them Monday, May thirties. The 357 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: boots did not even make it to the lab until 358 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: Monday May six. When I was told on Thursday, Jean 359 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: second they were at the lab. I was like to 360 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: buy the detective nothing got processed. Some stuff could still 361 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: be possibly found. You know another thing that thought that 362 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: I had, as far as search and rescue is concerned, 363 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: I also was in a police department that searched that 364 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: area on a case of missing victim Susan Powell. And 365 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: we have GPS coordinances of every home on the ground 366 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: out there. We have detectives. They were out there for 367 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: two and a half years full time MAPP in that area, 368 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: and so they would have and since that's an open case, 369 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: now you should be able to get bad information for 370 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: a search and rescue as well. Time stories with Nancy Grace, 371 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: you were hearing from Justin Boardman that there is a 372 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: chance to still properly process the items that have not 373 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: been processed by law enforcement. I'm talking specifically about the vehicle, 374 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: but what about the boots. Take a listen to our 375 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: cut eight. And then we were since told by detectives 376 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: that there was a spot of blood on the boots, 377 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: then they were being sent to the lab. And this 378 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: was on Wednesday, Wednesday or Thursday. But after that afterday 379 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: that Saturday, so the boots were found Monday, then we 380 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: were told this. Then we found out from detectives and 381 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: boots had not been sent to the lab. And this 382 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: was on Saturday when they came back out that they 383 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: were being in case of cadaver dogs needed him, which 384 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: cadaver dogs do not need a scent, they search for 385 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: human roomains. So the boots just didn't get sent in 386 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: okay to John Ellwood, Deputy Chief Manatee County Search and 387 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: Rescue and you can find them at Manatee County SAAR 388 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: dot org. John Ellwood, what should we be doing right now? 389 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: That's a great question. And listening to missus Cooley and 390 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 1: again my family's prayers to you and your family that 391 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: once where the pickup truck was. If they were able 392 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: to obtain a scent article, something that Dylan had worn, 393 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: you could use a tracking dog to see if you 394 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: could determine the direction of travel. If you could at 395 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: least get a direction of travel, then you might have 396 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: an area of where you would be inclined to search. 397 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: Somebody mentioned earlier about cadaver dogs. Caldaver dogs don't work 398 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: off of a scent article like tracking dogs do. Go ahead, Nancy, 399 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I believe that was Kenni's Cooley. Miss Cooley, 400 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: are you jumping in? Yeah? So I agree with that 401 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: we needed a scent dog. I actually breed bloodhounds for 402 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: part of my living, and I called in to talk 403 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: to people I knew with them to bring them in. 404 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: Here is the problem. Now, by time we could have 405 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: got dogs there, they had no interest in having the 406 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: bloodhounds there. They said there is too much rain. Blah 407 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: blah blass. Now it's gone. There is absolutely no chance 408 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: after having over three to four hundred people crawl all 409 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: over that a bloodhound is going to find Dylan's scent 410 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: and follow it somewhere. It's not going to happen. Too 411 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: much time has lost, too many people have been there, 412 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: and at poured rain again yesterday. Kurry Nerman, you're hearing 413 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: what is being said about bloodhounds and the ability to 414 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: track a cent. But as you will recall, in the 415 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson case, a tracker dog tracked Lacy Peterson from 416 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 1: her home on Cavina all the way to the San 417 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Francisco Bay, and it had been raining, and there have 418 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: been cars over where, many mini cars, between the time 419 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: Lacy was taken, her body was taken, and the time 420 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: the tracker dog got going. I mean it can be done. 421 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's rained. I have had accelerant 422 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: dogs find accelerant underwater. Okay, So I would not rule 423 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: out using a tracker dog now, Kirk Narmy, because I've 424 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: seen it done. No, I wouldn't rule out anything at all. 425 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: Going back to what was said about the pickup truck, 426 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: I'd be trying to pull everything I could off that 427 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: pickup truck and using the dogs as best they could, 428 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: because it's worth a shot. Every effort should be extended, 429 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: no matter how improbable. Yes, And speaking of the search 430 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: from an unlikely source, the Diesel brothers, I'm sure you've 431 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: seen them on Discovery have joined the search for Dylan. 432 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: Listen kind of with you guys's eyes and SKay watch. 433 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: Firstly turned up dirt. I mean, you guys know what 434 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: to look for, just any disturbance that shouldn't be there. 435 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Desert's pretty much all the same. So yeah, so that 436 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: way we'll find Yeah, basically just a trailer at cam trailer, 437 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: you'll see the pivot his pickup. There's all kinds of equipment. 438 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah you can't Yeah, yeah, it's all of his stuff's 439 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: out there straight through. You see that dirt pile. Yeah, 440 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: his boots were just tossed out right behind that, and 441 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: there was nothing else around him, know them nothing? Yeah, Yeah. 442 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: Were they on the far side of the wind in 443 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: the road so you wouldn't see them from the road. 444 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: And that's all you guys have found so far. Yeah, 445 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: we have nothing else. And they, like said Search and Rescue, 446 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: they were out here the first night I got here, 447 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: what maybe five They didn't even take off and looking 448 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: until seven thirty. Then they build and then they came 449 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: back maybe six hours that day, and then they said 450 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: we're calling it and nail it. Okay, let me understand something, 451 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: Nate eight, And you're hearing theyd Sol brothers talking to 452 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Dylan's mom. But is that correct? After six hours on 453 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: the same law enforcement just left. They didn't process the vehicle, 454 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: we don't know about the boots, and they haven't called 455 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: in search or cadaver dogs. Yeah, their families continually run 456 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: into these issues with law enforcement. The fact that we're 457 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: talking about two jurisdictions here, one in Utah, one in 458 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: Nevada with a border down the middle, and of course 459 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: there's jurisdictional issues over who has the rights to this 460 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: and that. And from the sounds of that canvas, it 461 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: sounds like you're getting helped from the Nevada side, But 462 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: the Utah side, where Dylan actually lived, where this camper was, 463 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: where the boots were found, where the truck was, where 464 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: all of his property was, it sounds like they're just 465 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: hitting wall after wall. Correct. So Utah has told me 466 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: multiple times that Nevada will do what Nevada if Nevada 467 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: wants to come to Like basically, we're not you know, 468 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: we're not reaching out to Nevada. What I since found 469 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: out is I met on Friday. I sat with for 470 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: some Nevada detectives, a sergeant, and even the sheriff himself 471 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: for almost five hours, and I went through the case 472 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: from top to bottom. We started with everything. They have 473 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: reached out to Utah multiple times. Where do you want 474 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: to see deploy where do you want searching? Mast you, 475 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: We're in this with you. Utah has been the one 476 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: that has declined the help. Utah has not accepted and say, hey, 477 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: come help us find this kid. You know, and we're talking, 478 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: we're talking two weeks now today, two weeks, fourteen days 479 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: we've been out there searching. They've had one, two, three, 480 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: and then said four or four or five of those 481 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: days they've had people out there searching. Is all, Well, 482 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: can you tell me Nate eight about the possibility that 483 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: somebody has him and wants ransom? Well, that was the 484 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: original called the family made in order to get law 485 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: enforcement involved. I believe it was Dylan's father who called 486 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: the sheriff. Propperson said this according to the police too, 487 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: that they got a call to go to Elko, Nevada, 488 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: that someone was being held hostage. And you know, in 489 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: the beginning, there were some thoughts that there was this 490 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: man that Dylan met in the middle of nowhere who 491 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: asked him for a ride, who has a suspicious criminal background. 492 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: There were some there was some finger pointing that maybe 493 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: this guy might know something. But Candice has actually spoken 494 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: with this man, Keith, in custody in Utah in a facility, 495 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: and they believe that he probably doesn't have anything to 496 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: do with Dylan's disappearance. But fingers were pointed at him. 497 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: You know, from the beginning, sounds like that's not so 498 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: much anymore. Okay, what can you tell me about the 499 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: ransom call to Candice? It was not a ransom called 500 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: this is what happened. One of the local citizens of 501 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: Montello called me on Tuesday, the second day in the search, 502 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: and said they're holding Dylan's hostage and basically he might 503 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: still be alive or not, and they give us a 504 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: specific location. And so that is when Justin called. So 505 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: I talked to this this guy three times. So we 506 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: all hold butt into Montello, not Elco, is in Montello. 507 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: So Justin call's Utah, Utah detective and they say, well, 508 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: that's in Nevada. It's not us. You need to call Nevada. 509 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: So Justin told them, if you don't get somebody out here, 510 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to take it into my own hands. So 511 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: detective from Utah called Nevada. I called nine one into ELKO. 512 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: I tell them what's going on. So ELKO sends out 513 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: six deputies. We're furious, we're frustrated. We think our son's 514 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: right down. The bosses. These local people are telling us 515 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: they got them, they got them, they chased in this 516 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: other day, they got them. They're holding them hostage, they're 517 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: beating them, they're you know, they're telling us all their stuff. 518 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: And but what Elko did not know when I called 519 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: in is that my son was missing because Utah never 520 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: told them. So let me understand, miss Cooley, there was 521 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: no ransom call. Correct, Then where did that even come from? 522 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: I have no clue. If you go back to all 523 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: my interviews, I never said that. I said we got 524 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: a call saying Don was being held high right, who 525 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: has never came out of that that your son is 526 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: being held The guy's name is Kurt. Kurt calls me. 527 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: Kurt did work for Dylan, so we can clarify this 528 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: and people can understand that is his name. Kurt called 529 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: called me and said, Chase and this other guy have Dylan. 530 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: Who is in this house. Who is Chase? Chase is 531 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: the guy that Dylan had picked up in the middle 532 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: of the desert from Wednesday, the twenty fifth that we 533 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: had as a person of interest, the one that is 534 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: now in the Utah jail on unrelated charges. Okay, got it. 535 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: So Kurt tells you, Chase and this other gentleman have Dylan. 536 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: They're holding him hostage in this other gentleman's house. He 537 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: may or may not be alive, and they've beating him. 538 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: He's all over the board. But at this point we're 539 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: still looking for Chase actively, you know, trying to find him. 540 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: So I hang up the phone with Kurt. He calls 541 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: me back ten minutes later. He goes through it again. 542 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: He's like, and he may be at this house or 543 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: maybe at this house, but we're watching this house and 544 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: we know they have dealts. We know they have dealings. 545 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm told. So Justin and I get on 546 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: the phone with him. We hit the same story. They 547 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: got Dylan, they took feeling. So that's when we haul 548 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: but into Montello, and that's when the nine one one 549 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: call came in two elko that I said, they have 550 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: my son. He's being held hostage. We need somebody out 551 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: there now. So when they did send they, like I said, 552 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: they sent six people. But when they got there and 553 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: they went to this other person's house, Chase was nowhere 554 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: around the other person. The other gentleman allowed them to 555 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: search the vehicles, the house, the property, the shift, absolutely everything. 556 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: There was nothing Kurt lied to us. Why. I don't know. 557 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: That's a really good question right there, right there, Deputy 558 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: Chief Managing County Searcher Rescue John Ellwood, Right there, that's 559 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: the problem. Why would you call a missing kids mom 560 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: and say your son's being held over here when he's 561 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: not right there? Why that's who we need to key 562 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: in on. Sure. The question I would ask is when 563 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: Candice received this phone call. Was it before the news 564 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: story about her son's disappearance or after? What about it? Candice? 565 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: Before and after? It was for? It was before? What's 566 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: your point, John Ellwood? Then that to me would add 567 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: more credence to the claim that Dylan's being held hostage. 568 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: They were okay and I in crazy land because they 569 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: went to the location and he was not being held 570 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: hostage there. There's no credence to the hostage situation because 571 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: that's not true. Kirk Narmy with me, high profile lawyer 572 00:33:53,280 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: Kirk right there. The acquaintance Kirk who had worked for 573 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: Dylan Rounds calls in with this information. I mean, let's 574 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: get real, Kirk. We've got to look at his circle 575 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: of acquaintances. He's there on his farm at six fifty 576 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: one am. That's where he calls his grandma. He's not 577 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: seen or heard from since. This has got to be 578 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: someone within his circle. The phone pings there, wasn't the 579 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: phone found there, Nate Eton. They have not found his 580 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: phone or his wallet. No phone, no what Thank you 581 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: for telling me that his boots are not far away. 582 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: The phone pings from there. Somebody took him from there, 583 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: dead or alive. Somebody took him from there, Kirk Nurmi. 584 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: And it's got to be somebody that would be out 585 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: on the farm and box elder, you bet, Nancy. That's 586 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: why my first my first stop would be the two 587 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 1: people that work for him as well, as this chase 588 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: person is in Kusty, he would be being interrogated. But 589 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: also now we have this tip, even though it's false, 590 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: this idea that someone called in before the police reports, 591 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: before it hit the media, to say that he's being 592 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: held hostage. What is this person doing? What is their 593 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: true motive? Are they exploring? Are they trying to find 594 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: out what's going on with the investigation. So I'd be 595 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: having the pilotice look at Kurt. What about this Kurt Nermi? 596 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: What if cops are not doing the deputies are not 597 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: doing what they should be doing. They didn't take in 598 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: the vehicle, the truck, they didn't process it, they haven't 599 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: processed his camper. They couldn't find his keys, his key fobs. 600 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: They're not doing what you would normally expect law enforcement 601 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: to do. So what do we do now? Can she 602 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: Candice Cooley get in touch with the fans or do 603 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: we have to wait for authorities in Loose and Utah 604 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: to do it? I think she can. I think programs 605 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: like this help getting people involved. It maybe can process 606 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: the truck. Doing everything that they can to make up 607 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: for the evidence that was lost needs to be done. 608 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: Anything possible, any law enforcement agency that can get involved 609 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: with this, Bureau of Land Management, Nevada authorities, what have you. 610 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Jurisdiction doesn't matter, humanity matters here and they should be 611 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: doing everything they can. But can it Does it actually 612 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: work that way to you? Justin boardman, Can you pick 613 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: up the phone and call the FBI in as a 614 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: civilian or do we need local police to do it? 615 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: You can certainly try an attempt to do that. There's 616 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: also other means to shake that law enforcement tree if 617 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: you will in Utah, which I've done many times for others, 618 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: But there's you can still go to the state police. 619 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: You can do a lot of different things like that. 620 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: So when you say, say the state police, are you 621 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: talking about, for instance, the Utah AG's attorney General, I'm 622 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: talking more about the Utah Department of Public Safety and 623 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: going through them and their investigators. They don't have a 624 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: lot either, but they certainly have more political clout if 625 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: you will, to pressure some things. They also have their 626 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: own crime lab people that will respond out and process. 627 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: They've got all of the bells and whistles. You know 628 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: what's interesting, kenn is cool. I want to go back 629 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: to the boots, isn't it true? Your son always wears 630 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: the same kind of boots, the same pair of boots, 631 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: and when that pair wears out, he gets another pair 632 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: just like him. It's not like he's out wearing a 633 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: different pair of shoes. These are his work boots care 634 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 1: had on that day. Yes, And can I just touch 635 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: on what you were saying about the health and public safety? Yes, 636 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: So the commissioner actually reached out to Justin and my 637 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: own Saturday to find out what the heck is going on, 638 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: and they have reached out to us. We should know 639 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: more tomorrow or today. Of course it was on a Saturday, 640 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: so but after the coverage and seeing what's going on, 641 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: he did personally reach out to it's the governor of 642 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: Utah told him too, we really need your help because 643 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: nobody seemingly is helping this mother find her boy. Please 644 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: do what you can to help find him, for instance, 645 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: calling the Public Safety Commissioner Anderson at eight zero one 646 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: five eight zero five nine two eight repeat eight O 647 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: one five eight zero five nine two eight, or the 648 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: Governor of Utah. You can call him toll free at 649 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred seven O five two four six four repeat 650 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 1: eight hundred seven O five two four to six four. 651 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: Let your voice be heard. Don't make Candice Cooley go 652 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: through this by herself. Help her. I don't know where 653 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: Dylan is, but I know this. I want action. I 654 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: want to see something happening. I want that processed. I 655 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: want scent dogs, tracker dogs out at the scene. I 656 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: want his camper processed. His phone hasn't been found, Has 657 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: it been pained? Don't know. That's what we need to 658 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: be doing now. Has this ATM or credit card has 659 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: been used? If somebody take his wallet for that reason, 660 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: who are his closest friends, who works for him, who 661 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: would have been around him out in that remote area 662 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: where he farms. We need help in finding this teen 663 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: boy who loves the land, who was in touch with 664 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: his mother, his grandparents or his father every single day, 665 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: one of them would hear from him. But the scent 666 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: has gone cold. We can't find him. We don't know 667 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: where he is. Nate Eden, I understand that there was 668 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: a search just in the last forty eight hours. Let 669 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: me go to Candas Kolly on that. I know she 670 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: was there working. Candice, where did you search and what 671 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: if anything did you find? So we we focused on 672 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: the Nevada side this time and Elko County Sheriff's was great. 673 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: The actual sheriff was out with us, the lieutenant. They 674 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: helped us organize everything has mapped. It was a very 675 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: good search. We were looking for a particular bunker. We 676 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: did find that, so that was really good. We found 677 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: that we were able to clear that there was a 678 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: couple other areas that a bunker. What do you mean 679 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: by a bunker. So these people out there are the 680 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: anti government prepping for the end of the world. They 681 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: they have bunkers. So this particular one is a Senx 682 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, shipping container into the side of a mountain. Okay, 683 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: So you search that area, including this bunker at to 684 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: know about guys. There is a twenty thousand dollar reward 685 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars if you have information on Dylan Round's 686 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: nineteen year old boy. We are joining his mother today 687 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: begging for your help. The tipline four three five seven 688 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: three four thirty eight hundred repeat four three five seven 689 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 1: three four thirty eight hundred help us bring Dylan home. 690 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend,