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Speaker 2: as we sit here on April fourth, if you're in

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Speaker 2: a cornucopia of well choices to well delight even the

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Speaker 2: most discretionary sports fan. Monday, we have an epic matchup

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Speaker 2: with plenty of storylines, Michigan and Yukon. Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: seasons underway with much fanfare, and you know why, the

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Speaker 2: NBA Playoffs just around the corner the NFL Draft. You

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Speaker 2: get my point, and once again sports teaches us that yes,

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Speaker 2: it is the greatest reality show and you can script

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Speaker 2: everything but the ending. Just a few days ago, we

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Speaker 2: had sixty eight teams. Now we're down to four. Now

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Speaker 2: we're down to two. And before I get to my point,

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Speaker 2: because I'm fascinated with the storylines behind this matchup, on

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Speaker 2: Monday Night. I had the good pleasure of working many

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Speaker 2: years in the media in Detroit, cut my teeth at

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Speaker 2: WTK and an Arbors starting in nineteen ninety four, graduated

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Speaker 2: spent many years at CBS ninety seven to one at

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Speaker 2: the time it was WKRKA Announce ninety seven to one.

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Speaker 2: In the ticket allons pre and post for many years

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Speaker 2: covered all the World Series, NBA Finals, Michigan football, you

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Speaker 2: name it. But during that time, perhaps what stuck out

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Speaker 2: most to me was watching up close to the great

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Speaker 2: Scottie Bowman, the head coach of the Red Wings, who

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Speaker 2: I have argued is the greatest coach in Indy sport

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Speaker 2: of all time anywhere. He won nine Stanley Cups with

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Speaker 2: three different teams in three different eras, and while with

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Speaker 2: the Red Wings, did it with three different goalies Chris Osgood,

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Speaker 2: Mike Vernon and Dominic Kashick. Which leaves me to Monday,

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Speaker 2: because the storylines to me make this game what it is. Yukhn.

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Speaker 2: I bet you didn't know this, or maybe it did

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Speaker 2: and you didn't think about it. They're looking to capture

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Speaker 2: their seventh seventh basketball championship since nineteen ninety nine, also

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Speaker 2: with three different coaches, Jim Calhoun, Kevin Ollie and now

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Speaker 2: Danny Hurley, And who knew? Come on, you didn't predict this.

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Speaker 2: I know I didn't. I think I had him get

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Speaker 2: into late eat or something, because I know that Danny Hurley,

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Speaker 2: who's now nineteen to one in his last twenty NCAA games,

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Speaker 2: he turns it up to a different notch when March

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Speaker 2: Madness starts. But again, who knew? It wasn't that long

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Speaker 2: ago that Yukon lost unceremoniously to Saint John's twice, including

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Speaker 2: by twenty. On March eighteenth, they lost at home to Creighton,

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Speaker 2: and they lost the Marquette. Those weren't good teams. They

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Speaker 2: find themselves a seven and a half point underdog to

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Speaker 2: Michigan on Monday Night. Meanwhile, Michigan, they're looking to get

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Speaker 2: their first titles since nineteen eighty nine, and the first

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Speaker 2: Eudonis Haslam back in two thousand. So put this in

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Speaker 2: your pipe and smoke it. Yukon is looking to get

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Speaker 2: or seventh since nineteen ninety nine. The Big ten, their

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Speaker 2: first in two thousand one school has that many championships

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Speaker 2: over an entire conference, but it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: tall order. Did you happen to see the game Saturday night? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was number one versus number one, But if this

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Speaker 2: full disclosure, I thought Arizona would win. I had them

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Speaker 2: winning the whole thing in my Fox Sports bracket, which

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Speaker 2: looks like a jigsaw with a couple of pieces gone,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jim Crouching, actually a bunch of pieces gone.

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Speaker 2: And Michigan has pretty much laid waste to just about

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Speaker 2: but at least three points in seven by at least forty.

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Speaker 2: But this was Arizona, a team that has also left

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Speaker 2: didn't suspicion Michigan, as a one and a half point favorite,

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Speaker 2: Even though their best player, arguably Yaxil Lendeborg, only played

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Speaker 2: like Purdue did. They're not unbeatable. But Nolan Ryan once said,

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Speaker 2: the mark of a great pitcher is when you can

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Speaker 2: on November twenty sixth, and you can find it on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Michigan's the Axella Lindeborg said, quote today was about putting

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Speaker 2: the world on notice. We're the best team in the nation.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Jackson said, it ain't bragging if you can do it. Now,

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Speaker 2: they've got one more to go. At one point, they

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Speaker 2: let Arizona by thirty and Michigan scored ninety one points.

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Speaker 2: That's a new record. They became the first team in

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Speaker 2: the history of the tournament to score ninety in each

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Speaker 2: of their first five games of an NCAA tournament. Now

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're scoring ninety against Danny here. I

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Speaker 2: can't wait for this game. Don't think that Yukon can't

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Speaker 2: Michigan right now is a runaway train. And if the

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Speaker 2: three pointers are falling, all that's gonna do is make

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Speaker 2: Yukon's life much more difficult. But again, don't think Yukon

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Speaker 2: can't win this game. I don't know if Arizona's coaching

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Speaker 2: praised Arizona all year, and they deserved it. They could

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Speaker 2: light up the scoreboard. Two they weren't nearly as reliant

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Speaker 2: The box score will show Michigan made six more triples

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Speaker 2: eighteen points, and that's the exact margin that Arizona lost

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Speaker 2: by coincidence. Still, congratulations to Arizona. I thought they had

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Speaker 2: an excellent season. This is a hard tournament to win.

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Speaker 2: Onto Danny Hurley and the Magic Act. He apparently had

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Speaker 2: Dan Hurley does not live a life on stats. I

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Speaker 2: realized that Illinois has now played thirty seven total games

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Speaker 2: two points twice. The opponent you guessed at Yukon, Illinois

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Speaker 2: does have an electric offense. They relied heavily on floor

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Speaker 2: of that, that limits the need for help defense. And

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Speaker 2: so without wide open looks to put the scoreboard to

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Speaker 2: if you recall, this isn't the first time I have

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Speaker 2: the tremendous respect for Brad Underwood in Illinois. This is

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Speaker 2: the second time. Now, how did Danny Hurley do this?

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Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty four when Yukon, when all their

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Speaker 2: They held the align that year to a season low

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Speaker 2: notch in the belt of the crazy outrageous John Wooden

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Speaker 2: greats but in terms of win percentage, Billy Donovan pretty

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Speaker 2: good win percentage right, seventy four point five percent. He

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Speaker 2: who won eighty two percent of his games. Now I

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Speaker 2: get it. Dan Hurley has only been in only twenty

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Speaker 2: five March Madness games, much less than his brethren. Give

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Speaker 2: Hurley is now a perfect eleven to zero against the

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Speaker 2: And give it up to Terris Reed Junior. His tournament

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Speaker 2: to hear their names. You may have heard of. Larry

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Speaker 2: Bird did it at Indiana State in seventy nine. Larry

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Speaker 2: he does on offense gives Yukon confidence. But both Arizona

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Speaker 2: it would have been Arizona or Michigan. However, again, don't

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Speaker 2: think Yukon can't win this game on Monday night. I

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Speaker 2: guarantee you Michigan will throw everything at him but the

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Speaker 2: kitchen sink, and may throw that too. As that for

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Speaker 2: a lowsy cliche, but so far Yukon and Terras Reid

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Speaker 2: have answered every challenge. Who knew you get sacked by

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Speaker 2: a mediocre Marquette team, a very down season for Creighton,

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Speaker 2: you lose to Saint John's by twenty. You lose to

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Speaker 2: Saint John's two out of three, and you're playing for

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Speaker 2: Coming up, Luka Doncic was dealt a bad hand the

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Speaker 2: other night. Now, Lucas had quite a season and he's

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Speaker 2: played sixty four games. You see where I'm going with this,

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Speaker 2: In order to do that, Luca would have to file

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Speaker 2: it would be unjust to exclude him from award eligibility.

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Speaker 2: That's undeniable. You may not know this. There have been

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Speaker 2: But how do you not give it to Wimby. San

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Speaker 2: And I think I think, I think Lucas Case has merit.

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Speaker 2: What kind of brand new No no, no, What am I

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Speaker 2: talking about? Talk about?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, forgive me, folks, I have been drinking

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Speaker 2: the Midnight hour eight seven, seven, nine and nine on

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Speaker 2: Fox eight seven, seven, nine nine six six thirty sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: We have a couple of great topics, and then we

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Speaker 2: have the rant tonight. If you want to add set

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Speaker 2: on your own, I haven't done that in a while.

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Speaker 2: I may lead the witness give you a couple ideas.

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Speaker 2: We have two. I think very that'll be fun, provocative topics.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's gonna be mostly agreement on these.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not. And you know how I feel about this,

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Speaker 2: the most foreign conversation certainly on the radio or ones

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Speaker 2: what everybody just simply agrees. So this should engender some disagreement,

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Speaker 2: but I know it will engender some I think thoughtful

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Speaker 2: emotional comments because both subjects are going to be things

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Speaker 2: people can really relate to. So we'll get to those

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Speaker 2: coming up to bed that hour now just twenty four

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Speaker 2: minutes away. We'll set, as Lee Hamilton would say, the

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Speaker 2: topic saw on the table coming up. I'm Bernie Fradderwick

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Speaker 2: comedy line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: Don't go away or listening to the Bernie.

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Speaker 6: Frader Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup

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Speaker 2: All right back in the Bernie Fritter Show Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: seventeen minutes away from the Midnight Hour eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: nine ninety six six three six nine eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox. You Know the Great bum Phillips

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Speaker 2: Classic football coach was once asked about Earl Campbell, is

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Speaker 2: he the greatest running back you've ever seen? And he said, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's head of the class, but

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Speaker 2: it don't take long to call a roll. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: about Gino Oriema. This is our first subject tonight on

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Speaker 2: the Midnight Hour. I don't know if Gino Oriema is

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Speaker 2: the sourced loser in the history of losers, skipping the handshake,

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Speaker 2: making in accurate claims about the game, classless, stupidity, geno.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can't deny the man's success, But that

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Speaker 2: means that doesn't mean you can go around life looking

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Speaker 2: like you just smelled a bad fart with that face

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Speaker 2: out all the time. The guy bugged me, I can

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Speaker 2: hold two thoughts. Concurrently, he's got a body work, but

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Speaker 2: he bugs me. Okay. His confrontation with Don Staley in

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Speaker 2: the closing seconds was terrible. One hundred percent on Staley's side,

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Speaker 2: he loses respect. I think he embarrassed himself. And I

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Speaker 2: want to get into this a little bit more before

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Speaker 2: I solicit your opinion where I think. I want you,

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Speaker 2: the callers, to go with this when you weigh in.

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Speaker 2: So again, I don't know if gino Orima is the

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Speaker 2: source loser of all time, But as bum Phillip said,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the head of the class.

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Speaker 2: But it don't take long to call role. But let's

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Speaker 2: talk about what happened. Let's break this down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Gino Oriema was wrong. He was wrong to throw Don

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Speaker 2: Staley under the bus in an in game interview. He

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Speaker 2: was wrong to confront her and get in her face

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Speaker 2: at the end of the game. He was wrong to

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Speaker 2: leave the court without shaking hands. He was wrong to

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Speaker 2: suggest Staley didn't shake his hand prior to the game.

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Speaker 2: I think there's that I don't know that there's evidence

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Speaker 2: that Don Staley didn't do that. And you think that's

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Speaker 2: what really pissed him off. No, he's pissed off that

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Speaker 2: he lost. You think that Geno Oriama would have acted

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Speaker 2: the way he acted at the end of the game

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Speaker 2: if he had won the game. So I don't buy

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Speaker 2: this lame explanation about how he waited three minutes at

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Speaker 2: half court before the game and Don Staley didn't shake

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Speaker 2: his hand. I'm not buying it. Now, let's keep it real.

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Speaker 2: Gino Oriama has done a lot for the women's game, yes,

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Speaker 2: but that was the lowest point in Orima's career and

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Speaker 2: he's done. He's done, you know, goofy things. Before he

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Speaker 2: made some terrible, inaccurate, inflammatory comments about Caitlin Clark before

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Speaker 2: sheevver played one game in the w NBA. But I

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Speaker 2: think this was lower than that. He diminished what was

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Speaker 2: a hard fought game. He overshadowed everything that Yukon had

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Speaker 2: done in earning the right to be a seven point

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Speaker 2: favorite at that game. But where here's where being accountable

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Speaker 2: can be hell for certain people. These I believe based

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Speaker 2: on my research, are Gino Orima quotes quote. Here at Connecticut,

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Speaker 2: we have won so much that I think we know

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Speaker 2: how to win. I think we know how to win

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Speaker 2: with class, and we know how to win with dignity.

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Speaker 2: We win with humility. That's what Oriema said after his

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Speaker 2: fifty four game win streak ended on a fourteen point

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Speaker 2: loss Friday to South Carolina, And here comes the rest

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Speaker 2: pee wee but quote the true test is how you

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Speaker 2: handle yourself in this moment, the way they were in

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Speaker 2: the locker room, how they handled the moment. I want

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Speaker 2: always for our team to be handled both moments in

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Speaker 2: exactly the same way, meaning whether you win or lose. Quote,

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Speaker 2: no one's won as much as we have, so when

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Speaker 2: you are a part of that, you have to be

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Speaker 2: gracious and you're losing. I never want to be anything

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Speaker 2: other than that and treat people with respect end quote.

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Speaker 2: Yet did Gino Orima do any of that? Did you

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Speaker 2: see that? People have bad days? And by the way Oriama,

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Speaker 2: I understand they had run into with Kim Molkey and

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Speaker 2: Muffett McGrath as well. Those just didn't happen to be

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Speaker 2: in semi final games. I get it. Coaches lose their

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Speaker 2: mind now and then they chirp at refs. They get technicals. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if Don Staley's done it too. All the good ones

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Speaker 2: have Kim Molkey, Jeff Walls, even Don Staley, Vic Schaeffer

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Speaker 2: if you're not playing the game and work on the

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Speaker 2: refs on the sidelines, then while you're maybe not doing

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Speaker 2: your job. And yes, Gino Orima has won twelve national

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Speaker 2: titles and twenty five Final four appearances, and that is

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Speaker 2: all the more reason for him to have conducted himself

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Speaker 2: much better that you know, then he has and we

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Speaker 2: get it. Dan Hurley has had some goofy. Maybe something's

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Speaker 2: in the water at Yukon. Okay. Dan Hurley, who's Oriama's

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Speaker 2: counterpart at Yukon, He's had referees where he is looked

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Speaker 2: like the crazy man. But then you know, Oriema started

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Speaker 2: to lament the disparity in foules. He had that in

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Speaker 2: game interview with Holly Row. But then he made it

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Speaker 2: personal and he said, quote this is another quote I

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Speaker 2: believe their coach referred to Don Staley rants and raives

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Speaker 2: on the sideline and calls the refereence of names. You

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Speaker 2: don't want to hear what you're talking about her for now. Again,

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Speaker 2: we come to the event with the second ticking down,

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Speaker 2: just like Isaiah Thomas did back in nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 2: in Chicago Bulls, Just like Lebron did a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, you know, they leave the court without staying

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Speaker 2: for the traditional postgame. Hand but on the way, Orima

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Speaker 2: and Staley exchange words and I understand had to be

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Speaker 2: separated by the members of their staffs. Okay, Staley kind

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Speaker 2: of looked around a confusion. Orima left the court. He

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Speaker 2: did not stay for the traditional postgame. Han Chack now

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Speaker 2: neither coach really wanted to talk about it afterward. It

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Speaker 2: was on Oriema. He's the one that should have explained it.

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Speaker 2: All he said was quote, I said what I had

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Speaker 2: to say when I asked what happened? Nothing. Nothing. That's

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Speaker 2: not good enough. If you're going to do that, and

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Speaker 2: you got twelve championships and you held yourself quote to

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Speaker 2: high standard, you got a problem. You owe the world

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Speaker 2: an explanation, You owe the one. And then he apologized

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Speaker 2: the course, the gratuitous apology. And by the way, Yukon

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Speaker 2: didn't lose because it got a job by the refs. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I realized that South Carolina went to the line sixteen

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Speaker 2: times more. Yukon lost. They couldn't handle South Carolina's defensive

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Speaker 2: pressure period. So I ask you, I ask you, should

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Speaker 2: there be some sort of punishment. I think O less

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Speaker 2: you'ld be suspended five games or something. You tell me

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Speaker 2: what you think. You can give me your thoughts. But

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Speaker 2: topic number one Geno Orema. Should he be suspended for

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Speaker 2: what he did? And you can give your thoughts about

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Speaker 2: how you know observed what happened there? Just terrible, I

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Speaker 2: really mean it. Second, do you know that nearly nine

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Speaker 2: and ten Americans believe that our tipping culture is completely

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Speaker 2: out of control. You can't go anywhere, whether it's Starbucks

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Speaker 2: or you go pick up takeout food at a restaurant,

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Speaker 2: someone's gonna put a digital screen in front of your face.

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Speaker 2: They want a tip. You see it again, takeout Kiosks.

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Speaker 2: It's guilt tipping. They call a tip creep. This is

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Speaker 2: a trend that is now causing consumer fatigue and I

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Speaker 2: think frustration among customers who believe the percentages that they

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Speaker 2: default to and pressure to tip for virtually no service. Now,

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Speaker 2: the problem is, I'm a stooge, I'm a slappy. I

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Speaker 2: always tip. My Catholic guilt kicks in. I go out

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Speaker 2: to the meal. My wife and I go out to

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Speaker 2: eat all the time. And I like fine dining and

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Speaker 2: I like you know diners too. I like the full gamut.

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Speaker 2: I always leave minimum twenty five percent. Went to an

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Speaker 2: Italian restaurant tonight. I left a little more than twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent. That's just me. I just want to, okay,

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Speaker 2: because I remember during COVID when they were told they

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Speaker 2: couldn't go home and couldn't work. That was a rough one.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough profession. It's not an easy job. The

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Speaker 2: trick is making it look easy. But this tipping culture

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Speaker 2: is out of control. When you go get a takeout

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Speaker 2: Hamburger and they shove a digital screen in front of

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Speaker 2: your face for what But I'm still I'm still slappy.

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Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on tipping culture in America. Okay,

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Speaker 2: do you have tip fatigue? Are you tipping less? Are

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Speaker 2: you avoiding businesses with aggressive just to tip options? Do

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Speaker 2: you believe that tipping has shifted from this voluntary reward

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Speaker 2: for good service and do some sort of expected demand?

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Speaker 2: Eighty three percent of consumers believe automatic service charges should

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Speaker 2: be banned, and people feel tips should be earned, not expected.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, I'm a slappy, but I think

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Speaker 2: this is silly. How far this has gone and they're

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Speaker 2: getting away with it. The truth of the matter is

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Speaker 2: you've all experienced it. It's out of control and some

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Speaker 2: consumers are pushing back. How do you feel again, are

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Speaker 2: you one of the nine to ten who believe tipping

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Speaker 2: culture is out of control? Or I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 2: maybe you work in the food service industry and you

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Speaker 2: have a different take. I want to hear it. I

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Speaker 2: want to hear what you've got to say. So you're

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Speaker 2: doing the hard work, so you know where I'm going

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Speaker 2: with that. So topic number one, gino Oriama, you heard

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Speaker 2: my rant? Should ye be suspended? I say yes, Season starts.

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Speaker 2: You can't let this go. Make them accountable. The second

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Speaker 2: topic is the tipping culture out of control, guilt, tipping,

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Speaker 2: tip creeping, high default percentage of shoving a digital screen

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Speaker 2: in front of your face. And then we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: the rant. You want a rant on the third one,

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Speaker 2: do it quickly. Maybe you feel Luca should be included

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Speaker 2: in the MVP voting something like that, or maybe you

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00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: got something that just bugging you and you want to

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Speaker 2: get it off your get it off your chest. Eight seven, seven, nine,

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Speaker 2: nine six six three sixty nine. We got geno Oriama,

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Speaker 2: sore loser, tipping culture out of control, we got the

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Speaker 2: Midnight Hour eight seven seven nine nine six six three

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Speaker 2: six nine. Keep it locks the Bernie. That's right, you

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Speaker 2: heard the man. Bernie Frowners show keeps rolling right along.

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Speaker 2: You've come to the Midnight Hour eight seven, seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine sixty six three six nine eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 2: nine on Fox. Yep, you know where I'm going, Gino Orea,

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Speaker 2: I think he deserves to be suspended next year for

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Speaker 2: what he did. You heard my rant, he's tipping culture

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Speaker 2: out of control. You may have saw the visual I

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Speaker 2: posted on Twitter. Some sign from a restaurant said, polite

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Speaker 2: reminder to all customers, please do not order food. You're

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Speaker 2: not going to leave a minimum twenty five percent tip.

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Speaker 2: And then of course there's a rant. If you want

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Speaker 2: to get something off your chest, it's time for the

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Speaker 2: Midnight Hour. All right, we go back out to the

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Speaker 2: great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Were joined by Jim. Jim, you're

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Speaker 2: leading off tonight, Buddy. Let her rip.

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Speaker 7: Bernie as far as the Coach of Connecticut goes. If

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Speaker 7: you remember when he was winning all those championships with

650
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Speaker 7: Tarrasci and everything, he was beating teams by twenty twenty

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Speaker 7: five points.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you know so what coaching skills when needed back then,

653
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Speaker 3: But as the years went on, all the other programs

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Speaker 3: around the country udied him and picked a little of

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Speaker 3: this caught up to them. So now it's more even now,

656
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Speaker 3: where's your coaching skills now? Like you said, they were

657
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Speaker 3: getting pounded on defense and everything. He should have made

658
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Speaker 3: adjustments at halftime and he just couldn't do it. So

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Speaker 3: then he gets all upset because he lost to a

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Speaker 3: better team, you know, and he should get suspended for

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Speaker 3: five games and to show that he's really out there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can see a little bit of motion

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Speaker 3: during the game, but he was very articulate when he

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Speaker 3: ranted on.

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Speaker 7: Caitlin cup Box. He was just sitting there and I

666
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Speaker 7: saw a video like he's he's the god of women's

667
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Speaker 7: basketball and what I say is religion and and that

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Speaker 7: turned out to be wrong. And of course he had

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Speaker 7: all of his stars at that game, carrass you know,

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Speaker 7: all of them like to back them up because I

671
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Speaker 7: think in his mind he knew whoever won that game

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Speaker 7: was going to win the championship.

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Speaker 8: And that's probably what.

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Speaker 2: You have a really good point. Over the years, I've

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Speaker 2: often wondered, he's he really this coaching genius or he's

676
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Speaker 2: just really getting good players and he's got better athletes

677
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Speaker 2: every year, any year in and out. And I remember

678
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Speaker 2: there was one something blowing in the wind years ago,

679
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Speaker 2: mighty Beaterterson coaching an NBA team. Like what, so we're

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Speaker 2: an agreement, Jim that he deserves some kind of suspension.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about tipping culture out of control?

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Speaker 7: Burning a tipping culture. I went in to the store

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Speaker 7: the other day and they had a tip tip can

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Speaker 7: up in front of the butcher guy, you know where

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Speaker 7: you get your cut meats and everything and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: I went into a store the other day and they

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Speaker 7: have like like a buffet type of thing and you

688
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Speaker 7: do everything yourself and you get up there and you pay,

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Speaker 7: and when you put your card in, it asked you

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Speaker 7: for a tip. You know, I always thought I'm old school.

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Speaker 7: I always thought tipping was the guy a girl. You know,

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Speaker 7: it's their first job, you know, earning money, like a

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Speaker 7: lot of kids in college and stuff like that. That's

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Speaker 7: what they do to get money, you know, do whatever,

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Speaker 7: and it's about you know, helping out your fellow human being,

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Speaker 7: not just you know, giving money because the machine says

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Speaker 7: to or anything else says to So I'm all, I'm

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Speaker 7: all against that tipping culture. I think it should be.

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Speaker 3: You know, who greets you, who serves you, and if

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Speaker 3: they respect you.

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Speaker 7: And how you how you are, and that's where the

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Speaker 7: gratuity comes from, is how you are the human being

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Speaker 7: taard me and I'll pay you for.

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Speaker 2: That, you know, so good Stuff'm leading us off tonight. Yes,

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Speaker 2: nine and ten Americans believe this culture, tipping culture is

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Speaker 2: out of control. Thanks Jim Tyler and Minnesota. Welcome into

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Froutter Show.

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Speaker 9: Hey, buddy, the Gino Rima stuff like, I just think

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Speaker 9: that sour Graves he was he's never had well, he

710
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Speaker 9: always gets the best players, but they never have any

711
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Speaker 9: you know, they never have any. They've been pretty much

712
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Speaker 9: have been ahead for their whole lives. Win every game

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Speaker 9: by thirty forty fifty, Find me a game, get a

714
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Speaker 9: little bit of controversy, and Gino arny Emma could handle

715
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Speaker 9: it that, you know, when it came time to it.

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Speaker 9: So he kind of exploded. But he's not used to

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Speaker 9: that because they're always winning every game.

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Speaker 2: And he took it out on Don Staley and confronted

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Speaker 2: her and looks a bad visual my question, and I

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Speaker 2: appreciate your call. Do you think he do you think

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Speaker 2: that there should be some repercussions, like a suspension next year?

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Speaker 9: I think the way he acted there should be something.

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Speaker 9: But in the grand scheme of things, even if he

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Speaker 9: gets suspended for a game or two, what does it

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Speaker 9: really do? I do think he should get suspended for

726
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Speaker 9: at least something there, but because he overreacted like it's

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Speaker 9: a guy, it's a rich guy in the room fittioning

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Speaker 9: about Oh sorry about that effing, but it's a guy

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Speaker 9: in the room, you know, the rich guy in the

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Speaker 9: room explaining about the other peasidants that finally kept up

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Speaker 9: to him, like Carolina kept up to him. They could

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Speaker 9: and shoot, they couldn't make anything. He was frustrated they

733
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Speaker 9: couldn't get the follows, which I get if they missed

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Speaker 9: one when the jersey got tossed, fine, it's fine, whatever

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Speaker 9: that's that happens. But to blow up like that with

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Speaker 9: Holly Rohan's tough on the side, and.

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Speaker 2: Then and then and then the getting down stately facing hands.

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Speaker 2: So all right, we're an agreeing that there needs to

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Speaker 2: be some accountability. What what that will do? If he

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Speaker 2: suspended it's simple send a message. No one, no one

741
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Speaker 2: can no one. No one's gonna get away with this

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Speaker 2: uh uh tipping culture.

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Speaker 9: That's likeski complaining about something. It's like you got duke,

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Speaker 9: like you got to.

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Speaker 2: Got it, I got it, got my friend. Uh tipping culture. Uh.

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Speaker 9: I'm a bartender for seventeen years, so okay, people tip

747
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Speaker 9: me way too much, way too much.

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Speaker 2: Like so you're you're working hard, didn't drink so fast.

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Speaker 2: You have to know what the drinks. But I'm gonna

750
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Speaker 2: ask you a question. How do you feel when you

751
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Speaker 2: walk into a Chinese takeout they hand you a box

752
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Speaker 2: and a digital screen and they want a twenty five

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Speaker 2: percent tip? Or Starbucks? I just do it because I'm

754
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: a slappy How do you feel about it when you're

755
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Speaker 2: a consumer?

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Speaker 10: I feel guilty.

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Speaker 9: I want to tip more because I come from a

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Speaker 9: small towns so a lot of these people tip me

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Speaker 9: way too much. So I feel like if I go

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Speaker 9: to their businesses, I want to give them the appreciation

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Speaker 9: as well. So I feel a little guilty of over tipping, right,

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Speaker 9: you know that, And that's a weird one. But also

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Speaker 9: I work in a job where people will tip me

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Speaker 9: way too much. And I'm like, you couldn't, you shouldn't

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Speaker 9: do that, but they just like I love you by them.

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Speaker 9: They give you the money, and.

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Speaker 8: That is what it is.

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Speaker 9: But also I go to other places where I'm like,

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Speaker 9: I put it in an online order, I go there,

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Speaker 9: do I really have to tip you this much? When

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Speaker 9: really just I'm picking it up, You're just making That's That's.

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Speaker 2: Where I'm going with this. Hey, good stuff, Good stuff, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: don't be a stranger. We do this every every weekend.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your input. Tonight, James and Tacoma, Washington, welcome

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Speaker 2: into the Burning Frattle Show.

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Speaker 11: Yeah about Luka, what is Adam Shower gonna do If

777
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 11: a player plays sixty four games but then the loser

778
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Speaker 11: missed a couple of games to the birth.

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Speaker 1: Of a child.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out he's gonna file the He's going

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Speaker 2: to file the appeal by April thirteenth, I'm told, and

782
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Speaker 2: an expert that's collectively appointed by the Players Association, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: We'll hear the case. We'll hear the case. So I

784
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Speaker 2: think I think you just go ahead.

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Speaker 11: But you agree that if the rage is any player,

786
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Speaker 11: this is the game is because of the birth of

787
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Speaker 11: a child.

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Speaker 2: That shouldn't count, right, That's yeah. I think that's fair.

789
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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. And this is a new rule

790
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Speaker 2: and we'll see if these exceptions pan out. Your thoughts

791
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Speaker 2: on Geno Rama. Should he be suspended? No?

792
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Speaker 11: Because he did he did apologize, you know he did.

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Speaker 2: That was weak and you know what, Okay, fair enough James,

794
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Speaker 2: but he I don't I didn't hear him apologize to

795
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Speaker 2: on Stalely. It was one of those gratuitous and my

796
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: staff if it was a weak ass apology and it's

797
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: too little, too late to continue on.

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Speaker 12: I think it's not the culture.

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Speaker 11: One problem I have the tips is that most places

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Speaker 11: in Seattle now they push site posted it for all

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Speaker 11: all parties of six or more. There's an eighteen percent

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Speaker 11: go two d on. They added, you're still still sill

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Speaker 11: some TIFFs, All right.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a little different situation. I I I get

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Speaker 2: that that I can live with. But you take you know,

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Speaker 2: Chinese takeof food, or go get a cup of coffee

807
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Speaker 2: or like you hear Jim say, you go get a

808
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Speaker 2: cut of meat. They got a How about that? Is

809
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Speaker 2: that out of control?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Because some places in Seattle, you at size up there,

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Speaker 11: do you not, Kiff, because it's the fact they're out

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Speaker 11: charge right away because waiters out the minimum waiting to

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Speaker 11: see out now twenty three dollars in tens just an

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Speaker 11: hour in the Seattle minimum twenty three dollars. Yeah, wait,

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Speaker 11: you's to get good money now, so they're gaining Paydallas

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Speaker 11: undertee that people do not give interesting.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good call, good call James. A couple of good

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Speaker 2: things there. Appreciate it. Jeff and Denver, welcome back. And

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frowders Show.

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Speaker 8: How are you good?

822
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Speaker 7: Bernie?

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Speaker 2: So what are we going to do? Brand new? Fuller

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Speaker 2: you I've done it the last two weeks? Where you been?

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Speaker 8: I have I listened last week?

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Speaker 13: Maybe cash we did?

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Speaker 2: We did, We did it the last two weeks. Now

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Speaker 2: tonight I got a great Major League Baseball guest on

829
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Speaker 2: and we got we got important topics. It's back. It's

830
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: going to be back most few weeks until football starts.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we we did it actually the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 14: I'll try to listen a little longer, but it's touching

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Speaker 14: on the look.

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Speaker 2: It also listen on the podcast, with which Brandon will

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Speaker 2: posted at the end of the show. Go ahead, well,

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Speaker 2: touch it.

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Speaker 14: On the look at thing, that whole sixty five game thing.

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Speaker 14: I liked it for the reason that it was done

840
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Speaker 14: for this damn beload management. But the injuries right reason.

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Speaker 14: The other stuff should be set aside and taken in

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Speaker 14: regards on a separate level, because that's not well.

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Speaker 2: That part has been as long as you play eighty

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Speaker 2: five percent of the games prior to your injury. And

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Speaker 2: I gave the three criteria, but you know, we look,

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Speaker 2: Lucas case is going to be heard. You bring up

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Speaker 2: a valid point, gino O, I Ama, does he deserve

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Speaker 2: to be suspended or not?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because talk is cheap. If you're going to do that,

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Speaker 8: you can at least walk over.

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Speaker 14: I don't I don't care your attitude, I don't care

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Speaker 14: your demeanor, but at least walk over, shake the dut

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Speaker 14: hand and say all right bye. But at least walk over.

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00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 13: Don't don't pull the.

855
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 14: Lebron thing and go to the locker room with two

856
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 14: minutes left in the game.

857
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that coast Isaiah Thomas being on the Dream Team.

858
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: Promise me, I'll tell you that. I'll five time. I'll

859
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: tell the story on the air later. And he did

860
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: it in ninety one he walked off against the Bulls. Jeff,

861
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: one of your thoughts is tipping culture out of control?

862
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,479
Speaker 14: Absolutely, that is just I think I can say as

863
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 14: a nine on the radio.

864
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah you can. That is just.

865
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 8: That is just stupid.

866
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 14: Like when you at the at the games, the person

867
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 14: is there all.

868
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: That's another thing. Yes, oh my god. I went to

869
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: several minor league good call. I went to several minor

870
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: league baseball games last year in multiple major league games

871
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 2: around this. You walk up, I'll take a hot dog

872
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: and a coke or whatever. They hint it to you,

873
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: and they want to tip there and I do it

874
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: like a stooge. Continue on.

875
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 14: All they do is turn around, grab a beer and

876
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 14: put it on the counter.

877
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: That's not right. A plus good stuff.

878
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 14: When you you I was a beer vendor for like

879
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 14: fifteen years at the stadium. I'm the one that's like

880
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 14: cold beer here.

881
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 15: So I'm humping the.

882
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 14: Beer seventy five eighty pound tub humping the beer up

883
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 14: and down the stairs. Yeah, I'm doing something for you.

884
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 8: So a tip is you know, I.

885
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: Can accept that you're making a trip to somebody's seat

886
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: so they don't have to get out of their seat.

887
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: That's fair. I got no beef for that hit.

888
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 14: A tip should be rewarded for service, not expected for

889
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 14: doing nothing. And some of these things they won't even accept.

890
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 14: You try to hit zero and they won't even accept it.

891
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: I'll be damn. I haven't had the guts to do that.

892
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

893
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 8: Might have to try that.

894
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Well, all right, Yeah, good stuff, Jeff, appreciate you, man,

895
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 2: Spock Sweed. Here we go.

896
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 15: Hey, Bernie, how are you doing, Sarah?

897
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: I think I'm doing pretty well?

898
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 15: All right? Then, well, you know, I was going to

899
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 15: spare your audience my usual crap, but I'm a moss

900
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 15: to a flame. Man. I can't help but call in,

901
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 15: all right. I think it's good, just so anyway, So yeah,

902
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 15: Gino sore loser. He's supposed to be a professional. He's

903
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 15: supposed to, you know, be an embodiment of the game.

904
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 15: I think that, you know, he could use some suspension.

905
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 15: And what he really needed to do is going to

906
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 15: redemption tool or or at a very leashed joined tiger

907
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 15: woods in his rehab area and go to Switzerland or

908
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 15: whatever it is. And rehab is secret.

909
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Amption, Gino? Or can you imagine Dido Oriema with any

910
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: kind of contrition oh gosh, get your order. If that happens,

911
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: I mean, the apocalypse is upon us. I think he

912
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: deserves to be suspended. Send him asy, You're.

913
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 15: Not above the lost bud, No not, No, he's got

914
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 15: some gonna have to have some Coili was involved if

915
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 15: that's the case.

916
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I can't get behind illegal drug use. But

917
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not normally an agreeable guy spock.

918
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 15: Normally in Switzerland it might be legal. Who knows anyway. Yeah,

919
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 15: tipping culture, yes, it is indeed out of control, and

920
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 15: I and I control it by having a lot of

921
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 15: ones in my wallet. So I do overtip to the

922
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 15: people that I know, I like to right to overtip

923
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 15: the people that that I normally frequent, you know, wan

924
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 15: with the elks. I'll pay thirty percent, and I'll do

925
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 15: what I need to do. If I'm on a pizza

926
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 15: place and they throw some at me, I'll put I'll

927
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 15: hit zero, and then I'll put a couple of bucks

928
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 15: that I think is appropriate into the deal, so I

929
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 15: I will tip in cash instead of hit the little

930
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 15: buttons and stuff.

931
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's out of control, but you'll take it

932
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 2: on an individual basis, which I think most reasonable people do.

933
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so.

934
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: I mean, like, if you're going to a drive through

935
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: coailude place and they hand you your quailage, are you

936
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 2: gonna tip battery?

937
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 15: Oh gosh, if they give me an extra coylude, I'm

938
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 15: giving him twenty bucks.

939
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: Well see then see then they're going to see it coming,

940
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna do it.

941
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 15: Well, then I have to have my twenty bucks. And

942
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 15: that's for sure, right all right? Any remember anybody remember

943
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 15: the Fraser episode when he said, here's your potential tip,

944
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 15: and I'll add moreny to it if you please me,

945
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 15: and I'll take money away from if you don't.

946
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, see I don't. I gotta tell you. I was

947
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: getting out of a New York cab once with a

948
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: buddy of mine named Pete who had the balls with

949
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: a burglar, and we pull up and we start to

950
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: get out of the cab and the cab he turns

951
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: around to Pete and says, you're gonna give me a tip.

952
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, here's your tip, buy IBM stock loser.

953
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: And I'm like, whoa, whoa, this is one hundred years

954
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: ago before the stupidity happened. I can't do that, man,

955
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: I can't you know, I can't do that, but I

956
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 2: do look askance when I go into a place and

957
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: you know, to get a takeout hot dog and they

958
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: and they want a tip. So that's just me. You

959
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 2: got the last word. Go ahead quick.

960
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 15: If it was twenty fourteen, I'd tell him to buy bitcoin.

961
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 15: But you know that that ship is oh my anyway.

962
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 2: All right, spot, good stuff is always, buddy. You enjoy

963
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: your evening, Tony in Miami. How you been, Tony?

964
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 16: Hey, Bernie, this is only in a solo call, just

965
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 16: to wish you happy Easter.

966
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 11: And I'm gonna keep the sport.

967
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: It's light.

968
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 16: I don't have anything on GINO. I do have a solution.

969
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 16: I like what the last caller said.

970
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 8: I was going to mention that too. You do control.

971
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 16: What's happening when you have cash, and I'm saying you can.

972
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 16: You can even pay it down here. There's a lot

973
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 16: of people that are adding in, whether it be fifteen,

974
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,959
Speaker 16: twenty five, thirty percent, and a lot of the guys

975
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 16: are drinking. And then there's another thing that is an

976
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 16: open line where they're not they're they're kind of kind

977
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 16: of you.

978
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 11: Know, get a double tip.

979
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 16: There's also extra fees, especially on the beach. So at

980
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 16: the end of the day, it's like, you want to

981
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 16: support these guys, but it's begetting so corrupt and they're

982
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 16: all closing.

983
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 8: There's all a.

984
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: Good word and you know what, I think people hold

985
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: that thought, Tony, because people have good intent. I think now,

986
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: my wife and I travel a lot, we fly a lot,

987
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: we check in our look at jetside. Why don you

988
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: men get the same guy and he picks up our luggage.

989
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 2: I get him ten bucks every time grabbing our luggage,

990
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: doing the whole deal. You know, he never makes you weight.

991
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: He's asked. I'm quite sure a couple of times my

992
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: luggage might have been over the weight limit. He just

993
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: looked right past it, right whatever. And they're not asking

994
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: for tips, but they're doing They're working their butt off

995
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: in the hot sun here, So you're right. I think

996
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: you're right. You want to be reasonable when it warrants,

997
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: and you do want to help people. It's Americans inclination.

998
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: But when you put up signs like I shared or

999
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: on Twitter, go ahead, Tony, continue on.

1000
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 16: No, no, no, I think you're you're beyond the classy guy.

1001
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 16: I wish I had you know ten percent of what

1002
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 16: your capacity is to do. I just you got to

1003
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 16: understand those too, please burning like the other calls that

1004
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 16: have cash, because I know, guys, look you, I've worked

1005
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 16: when I was younger, but the weights run now they're

1006
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 16: not even getting that money. And the guy was right,

1007
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 16: you fold up, you know, whether it's singles of five

1008
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 16: or ten, and you give it right to the gentleman

1009
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 16: or lady and say that's for you.

1010
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 6: And that that's kind of time to be Yes, yes,

1011
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 6: that's that's kind of how to be done.

1012
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 16: And and I'll leave if anyone has, you know, real

1013
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 16: money out there listening.

1014
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 9: This is the resolution.

1015
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 16: I used to live in Japan when I was young,

1016
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 16: you know, like before.

1017
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: Middle school, they considered an insult.

1018
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 16: Well, here's here's how things go there.

1019
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 11: This is what unless America.

1020
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 16: I don't think we're going to be going back to

1021
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 16: Sweet Caroline in the summer of eighty nine anymore, or

1022
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 16: drinks some fifty seventy five cents and everyone's just kind

1023
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 16: of jolly and everything's affordable unless that day happens, I

1024
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 16: don't know.

1025
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: But for moving forward, I think.

1026
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 16: To keep establishments open and you know, for a decent

1027
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 16: amount of time. I really believe that would do what

1028
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 16: the Japanese do, which is so much more honest.

1029
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 11: Have everything in.

1030
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 16: The price up front completely and if you if you're

1031
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 16: not sure, you just go home and cook, go home

1032
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 16: and drink. Dude, just go home, don't do it. And

1033
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 16: that's how it is in a lot of parts of Japan.

1034
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 16: But it's more honest, and the people that serve there

1035
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 16: serve because it's in their soul.

1036
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 11: It's a part of what they are, and it's out.

1037
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 16: Of honor, and so there's so much more honor and something.

1038
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 16: Even if it says forty four dollars for a burger

1039
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 16: in Tokyo, it's that's what it is. It's not this

1040
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 16: tax and this you know this and all these fees,

1041
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 16: and there's no one guilting you. You just get excellent everything.

1042
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 16: And it's just from top to bottom. It's so much

1043
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 16: more of a fine tune run machine than the insanity

1044
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 16: we've gotten here, especially the last seven eight years.

1045
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Tony, Appreciate you man, joy your weekend. Happy

1046
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: Easter to you as well. And I use the word guilt,

1047
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: and I think that's what they're playing upon people, guilt,

1048
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: and I kind of think it works with me. But

1049
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: I want to be generous. Done well in this life.

1050
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: I want to give back. I think you know. I'll

1051
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: tell you real quickie out there. If you're a food server,

1052
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: you want to get a good tip. Refill their drink

1053
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: before they ever have to ask for it. That's a

1054
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: metaphor pay attention to the order. My wife and I

1055
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: went to this pizza place that's a ten restaurant. I

1056
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: got the Saint pizza I always get. I always ask

1057
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: for extra sauce. I'll pay extra for it. I know

1058
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: if they're paying attention. Sometimes the waiter or waitress will

1059
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: come back. I didn't get my extra sauce or whatever.

1060
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: I always tip this place really good. They never mess

1061
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 2: it up, so for what it's worth. Okay, good start

1062
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: so far. Art in Arizona, Obi in Los Angeles, Andrew

1063
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: and Bakersfield, Damien in Omaha, Nebraska. You're up next. Hang tight.

1064
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate your patience. I want to hear from all

1065
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: of you. Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six six three

1066
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: sixty nine and the men that hour is off and

1067
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: run it. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're come to you live

1068
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: for the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back in the Bernie Fratto Show, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. The Man that Hour continues back out to

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Speaker 2: the phone lines. Art in Arizona joins our thanks for

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Speaker 2: your patience. Welcome in.

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Speaker 8: O can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, we can hear you.

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Speaker 9: Hey, you knowing Bernie.

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Speaker 8: Great shows, longtime listener, first time called.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in. Don't be a stranger.

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Speaker 8: But oh no, if I'm listening, I don't have to call.

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Speaker 8: But you know, r arman. He needed he should be

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Speaker 8: as handed himself. I'm gonna hit you with this, Bernie.

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Speaker 17: Did he ever do that?

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Speaker 8: What pass on it?

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Speaker 2: I don't recall he I'm one hundred percent on I

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Speaker 2: will just say this. He shouldn't do that against anybody.

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Speaker 2: And I'm one hundred percent on Don Staley's side.

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Speaker 8: She didn't do that, but this had that was totally disrespectful.

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Speaker 8: You got our coach, man, Yeah you did. Let's just

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Speaker 8: get that went out the way.

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Speaker 2: I believe I said it earlier in my commentary. Continue

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Speaker 2: on and.

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Speaker 8: Let's sten to you. But I'm giving you my time,

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Speaker 8: many a few beers.

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Speaker 17: I'm in the garage getting ready to get East. I'm

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Speaker 17: smoking turkey wings on the smoker. I'm getting ready for

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Speaker 17: easther matter of fact, have because it used to where

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Speaker 17: you at. But hear me out, that's totally disrespectful. He's

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Speaker 17: just suspending himself. You got out, coach. But you know

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Speaker 17: this day and age, Bernie, women equality, I guess they

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Speaker 17: call it right.

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Speaker 8: You can't disrespect women. Man.

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Speaker 2: He disrespected her and he disrespected the game, period. And

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Speaker 2: I'm sick of the guy. I'm sick of high here's

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Speaker 2: my thought. I'm gonna let you continue. Are if they

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Speaker 2: don't suspend in their enabling his behavior. Continue on.

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Speaker 8: But you know that's why you can't coach male like

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Speaker 8: you know you No, he ain't nobody gonna respect them

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Speaker 8: do no, no, not no males. But I'm not gonna

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Speaker 8: go that way. But you have to respect women, especially

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Speaker 8: this day and age. Dude, you can't do that. And

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Speaker 8: I got one of my daughters. She got an offer

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Speaker 8: from Yukon. She didn't want to go because she's I

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Speaker 8: don't like m right. I couldn't say nothing if she

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Speaker 8: went to us. He I'm not gonna call her name.

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Speaker 8: I'm not gonna say nothing. But she stopped playing sports

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Speaker 8: and she got her physics degree, so we're gonna leave

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Speaker 8: it at that.

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Speaker 17: You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: All right, good stuff? Continue on. I want to get

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Speaker 2: to all the callers. What are your thoughts in the

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Speaker 2: tipping culture?

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Speaker 8: Art the tip stuff? I'm cod cash, I'm delivering man,

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Speaker 8: but if your service is superb, don't even worry about it.

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Speaker 8: I'm a black.

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Speaker 2: Part's all good. I'm talking about with your show for

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Speaker 2: a takeout Chinese food and with a good continue on.

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Speaker 2: You know where I'm going.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm not gonna pay no no, whatever they call

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Speaker 8: that up.

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Speaker 18: Man.

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Speaker 8: No, I'm gonna pay you for the food if I

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Speaker 8: walked up and guard it myself.

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Speaker 2: That's what's happening on the hit me out Burning.

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Speaker 7: I don't have to worry.

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Speaker 8: About that kind of stuff because I'll cook it at home.

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Speaker 8: I'll tip myself, and I'm gonna leave you with that

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Speaker 8: brand show. Have a blessed easter man, and you do

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Speaker 8: a wonderful job.

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Speaker 16: Man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for all the kind words. Happy easier to

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Speaker 2: you art, Thanks for checking in. You brought us some

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01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: good points. And I maybe shame on me. I didn't

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Speaker 2: even go about around the disrespecting women angle, and it's

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Speaker 2: a very real one, and I think he brings up

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Speaker 2: a very a very valid point. I'm mad at Geno

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Speaker 2: oriama uh Obi in Los Angeles. Welcome into the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle Show.

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Speaker 8: Good evening, mister Fred. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Good? How are you fine?

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Happy Eastern you. I actually am a ukond

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Speaker 8: of alumni. I actually was there eighty five when Gino

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Speaker 8: first got there.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 8: So he's always he's always been like this, and he's

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Speaker 8: gotten away with it because he wins, and when he

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Speaker 8: loses he usually is a little bit more. He's actually

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Speaker 8: always been like this, it's just that now it's the

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Speaker 8: stage is really big and he looked really bad, and

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Speaker 8: so it makes him really bad. As far as suspension goes,

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Speaker 8: I don't know, because we don't want to over highlight

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Speaker 8: his poor behavior by suspending him, because that would then

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Speaker 8: would then focus more about the behavior. We'd have to

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Speaker 8: look back at that.

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Speaker 2: You think about that, Obi, it's a it's a double

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Speaker 2: edged sword. Is if you don't do anything, aren't you

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Speaker 2: essentially enabling his behavior?

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Speaker 8: True? True, But on the other end, if you do

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Speaker 8: do something, you then highlighting that behavior. So it's a

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Speaker 8: hard call. It really is. He is he is getting

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Speaker 8: his just rewards because everybody's talking about how poorly he reacts.

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Speaker 2: Fair.

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Speaker 8: Fair, So that's that's fair. But again, you know, like

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Speaker 8: I said, I was there when he first started, so.

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Speaker 2: This is no Yeah, I am aware, this is not

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Speaker 2: This is very well within his persona and this is

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Speaker 2: how he rolls. So you were an agreement on that one.

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Speaker 8: As far as the typic culture goes, So I'm with

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Speaker 8: you in terms of like when you do like takeout

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Speaker 8: and you're like, it's it's basically take out and he's

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Speaker 8: still asking for you know, anywhere from twenty two to

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Speaker 8: you know, anywhere from eighteen to twenty two percent. That's

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Speaker 8: kind of ridiculous. I have been doing, just like a

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Speaker 8: lot of your other callers do. I tipping cash to

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Speaker 8: the person who's actually serving me, who's you know, bringing

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Speaker 8: the food and so on. So I'll do that, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: you know, I overtip because as a black person, we

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Speaker 8: get looked upon as poor tippers, so we a lot

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Speaker 8: of times get bad service. So I try to overcompensate

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Speaker 8: so we get better service. So the next person who

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Speaker 8: comes after me, who happens to be black or hispanic

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Speaker 8: or minority doesn't get treated poorly. And there has been

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Speaker 8: a rumor that black people don't tip, so we get

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Speaker 8: bad service. So that's why I overtip.

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Speaker 2: I overtip as well. And whatever people's reasons are, I'm

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Speaker 2: for I've never worked in the industry, so I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's generous. I almost think it's kind

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Speaker 2: of a form of tiding. You don't know that person

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Speaker 2: maybe be supporting three kids. You don't know their personal situation,

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Speaker 2: their health situation. It's a tough job.

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Speaker 8: Continue on, Yes, and the one last thing I wanted

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Speaker 8: to add, I wanted to rant a little bit about

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Speaker 8: the basketball. What's it called the lack of playtime. So

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Speaker 8: my feeling is is that we're not doing enough to

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Speaker 8: talk about the owners and coach years to tell these

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Speaker 8: guys not to play. When I played sports, I did

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Speaker 8: what my coach told me to. So if I told

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Speaker 8: told me I'm not going to play, I wasn't playing.

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Speaker 8: That's that's that. And I think a lot of times,

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Speaker 8: and I'm sure the NBA is trying to address this,

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Speaker 8: but as far as a little manager goes, a lot

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Speaker 8: of it is the ownership is saying to the players

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Speaker 8: they're not.

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Speaker 2: Playing that that's been the golden state excuse.

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Speaker 8: Yes, right, they have like we'll say, well, I'm not

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Speaker 8: playing them because.

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Speaker 2: We're potential future injury from through fatigue.

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Speaker 8: But we want we make money when we go to

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Speaker 8: the playoffs, so if we lose a game in December,

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Speaker 8: it's not as important to making sure we make the

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Speaker 8: playoffs in April. So I think a lot of this.

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Speaker 8: As much as we are mad at the players, we

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Speaker 8: also have to look at the coaches and the organization

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Speaker 8: for doing the part of it's.

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Speaker 2: Part of it, though, all right, appreciate joby ju, your holiday,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for calling in. Don't be a stranger. Andrew

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Speaker 2: in Bakersfield, welcome back in. How are you.

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Speaker 8: Hello?

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Speaker 18: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: I can hear you? Now, go ahead, Andrew, all.

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Speaker 18: Right, I would say Geno or ari Emma. I never

1242
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 18: really liked him, but I think it needs to be

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01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 18: seen whether or not, not that it matters really, but

1244
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 18: just to know whether or not the other coach shook

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01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 18: his hand in the beginning, just to know. But I

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01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 18: don't think he should be suspended. I think he should

1247
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 18: be fined.

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01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: Is that something Anything's possible. I don't expect it. I

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 2: just think there should be some measure of a penance,

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01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: because otherwise you're just enabling this behavior. Okay, And I

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 2: don't care if his excuse that allegedly she didn't shake

1252
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: his hand before the game, he wouldn't have acted that

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01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: way if they don't won continue on.

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Speaker 18: Okay, but you still should know whether or not it happened,

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 18: just to know.

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Speaker 8: But I think, well, where we.

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01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: Are hearing that there's not a lot of there's evidence

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01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: to the cond Oh, so that's what we're hearing. But

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Speaker 2: I that's all I can say.

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Speaker 19: On that.

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Speaker 18: Go ahead, Okay, the tipping culture I could see before,

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Speaker 18: and I was a server at I started as a

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Speaker 18: busboy and then I was a server at a spyglass

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01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 18: restaurant in Shell Beach. Do you know where that is? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 18: Okay, it's right when you come into Shellbach from sam

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01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 18: Luisivisco area. But I don't know what that means. I

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 18: appreciated a good tip one time when I was out

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 18: of Denny's, I left a fifty dollars bill, and so

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Speaker 18: I'm like you, I like to tip good because generosity

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01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 18: will come back to you probably possibly.

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 2: Usually it does. You don't get with that in mind,

1273
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 2: but usually it does. And look, I help a legitimate aspect.

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01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: Did you go out for dining and someone's working, and

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: a lot of time it's a team effort. Absolutely tip

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01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: and BJ and you know what, I just go while

1277
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: I got your stand the line. I discovered something about

1278
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: twenty years ago that back then he'd be like fifty

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: percent twenty percent. I don't know what the norm is.

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Speaker 2: I tip what I tip. But if you go out

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: for typical meals like sixty bucks, let's say, well, you

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01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 2: want to tip twenty percent that's twelve bucks. You tip

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent, that's fifteen for three more bucks. And

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Speaker 2: I've always believed that the server knows the percentage in

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Speaker 2: their head. For three more bucks, you make someone happy

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Speaker 2: and typically I'll leave it round up. All right, I

1287
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Speaker 2: got to wrap this up and you go ahead.

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Speaker 18: Okay. My last thing is a rant for Luca. I

1289
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 18: think that you can probably play soccer. I played defender,

1290
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 18: and there's a term called shepherding. Why don't you apply

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 18: some some tactics from soccer and just do drills where

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 18: you go line to line and you bend down and

1293
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 18: you touch the line with your hand at the same

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01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 18: time as you touch it with your foot, and I

1295
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 18: bet a lot of these injuries not happened.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, buddy, we'll see you take it

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Speaker 2: under advisement. Thanks as always, Andrew. Squeeze one more in here,

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Speaker 2: Damien and Omaha, welcome in.

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Speaker 12: Hello.

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Speaker 19: How are you doing?

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Speaker 17: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Sir? Go ahead? All right.

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Speaker 20: So first, Geno, I don't think you can suspend them

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01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 20: just because the simple facts of where you going to

1305
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 20: draw the line with coaches getting into arguments and suspending people.

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01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 20: So hopefully what's gonna happen is people are gonna seize

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01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 20: behavior and be like, I don't want to play for

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01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 20: that guy. And I'm thinking this is actually going to

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Speaker 20: affect his recruiting coming up soon.

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Speaker 2: So that's my hopefully. I don't think it could it

1311
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 2: could You never know. I hear you tipping culture, Damien.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? Is it out of ConTroll?

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Speaker 20: So I've been in the I've been in the hospitality

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Speaker 20: industry for three years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're mad.

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01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 10: At the wrong people.

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01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 20: So what the companies that build these credit card machines

1318
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 20: for these takeout and I'm just strictly talking about takeout

1319
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 20: and pickup, they discovered that when you tip, you and

1320
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Speaker 20: cree stim out of that bill and they can charge

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01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 20: these restaurant companies more money. So that is why it's

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01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 20: on there. It's from that standpoint of it. It's not

1323
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 20: the companies coming up saying, hey, tip us. These companies

1324
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 20: that make these machines and the credit cards, they've discovered

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01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 20: that the higher their bill is, they can charge these

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01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 20: restaurants more money. That's why some companies will say if

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Speaker 20: you pay with ashes this amount, if you pay with

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Speaker 20: cards this amount, because they're trying to upset that up.

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 20: Well that's the reason for that, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's some damn good insight, and I appreciate that, Damien

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01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: and I I don't know if anybody's mad or who

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: they're mad at. I just think they're the public, by

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Speaker 2: and large is reacting to what's been a sea change.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, thanks a lot, Damien. Coming up, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: wrap it up with Christopher, Rick, Marcel and Kevin. I

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Speaker 2: want to get to all of you. Keep it locked.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on.

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Speaker 1: Fox, you're listening to Fox Sports, or back.

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 2: In the Bernie Fraudle Show that midnight hour continues. We

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01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: got four callers left. I want to get to all

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01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: of them. Christopher and London, welcome back in How are

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01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 2: you this good?

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01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 13: In the evening surgerod Morning from a frosty London.

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01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 11: I just wanted to start by this.

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01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 13: I lived in Michigan. I saw what happened with the

1346
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 13: Red Wings when.

1347
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 17: They had.

1348
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 13: Likenvcock and how he dictated things. I lived in Connecticut.

1349
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 13: I watched how you know Oriama deals with things. So

1350
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 13: let's take a look at the reality of sports today.

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01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 13: The issue that comes in today is it's dictated by

1352
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 13: how profits are margined. Now they spend the action.

1353
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 10: But does that? Does that?

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01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 18: Does that?

1355
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 2: I wish I wish you'd call earlier in the show

1356
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,560
Speaker 2: so we'd have time to go down this road. I

1357
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: just want to know. Do you think he deserves to

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: be suspended.

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Speaker 13: One thousand percent? That's the only way that they're going

1360
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 13: to enforce the ability to have the NCAA thank you,

1361
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 13: it's going to stop and it's going to start.

1362
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: How I feel number telling me go ahead?

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, you have been to Europe. You insult people when

1364
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 13: you tip in Europe.

1365
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 2: You know I've been there.

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01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 13: People expected. The issue comes into play is I tip

1367
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 13: based on my service, not based on the organization I

1368
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 13: get good service being a blind person. I tip well

1369
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 13: to my drivers on you Uber listed right shaares. I

1370
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 13: tip well to restaurants and help read the menu to me.

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 13: If I get poor service, you get a poor tip.

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Speaker 13: I get poor food. You get a poor tip. You

1373
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 13: treat me like crap, you get a poor tip. You

1374
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 13: have to justify yourself what you're doing in Europe. As

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01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 13: I've traveled around, you start tipping, they will look at

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01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 13: you oddly and you will poor food.

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Speaker 2: YEP, Hey, listen, Christopher, I wish you had more time.

1378
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: You're welcome to revisit this in the future. I want

1379
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: to get to the other calls. But thank you Rick

1380
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: and Louisiana, and welcome back in Buddy letter rip. Oh right,

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Speaker 2: how are you, Bernie good? Sir? You good?

1382
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, doing well. I just want to stay with the

1383
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 8: Geno album. Know about him getting suspended, but I think

1384
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 8: if you hit him in the pockets, that'll that'll set

1385
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 8: the come for not just him, but others and you know,

1386
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 8: show they don't need to show a little sportsmanship. As

1387
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 8: far as the tipping, I try to be consistent when

1388
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 8: I go out, and especially if I'm going to the

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 8: same restaurant on a regular basis. One thing I've been

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01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 8: on both sides of it. Early in my career, I

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01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 8: was a waiter and I saw.

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01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: Some things too.

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Speaker 8: And I do know one thing that workers do not

1394
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 8: forget you if you if they served you and served

1395
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 8: you and you don't give them a tip, they don't

1396
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 8: forget you. And one thing I don't do. I mean

1397
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 8: I tip because I think that's just the right thing

1398
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 8: to do because that they're part of their salary. But

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01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 8: the other thing is is that I don't want to

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01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 8: get a special sauce on my SI.

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Speaker 2: I've always wanted. Hey, Rick, I wish I wish we

1402
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: had more time, Pal, I got to get through the colors.

1403
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: But listen, you brought up a great point. Thanks Rick.

1404
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 2: I've always wondered if servers remember you, so if you

1405
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 2: tip well they remember you, or if someone doesn't tip

1406
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: you just pointed that out, Marcel and Kansas City welcome in.

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01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 8: All right, what's up? This is actually cut?

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01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, sir, go ahead, continue on, Pal, No.

1409
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 12: No, no, I actually said my.

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: Birth and I so should Gino be suspended? Your thoughts.

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01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 12: Only, it's going to take money out of this pocket?

1412
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: We Yeah, I would say it's suspended without pay if

1413
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 2: he's suspended, but I just don't think he can let

1414
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: it go if it's.

1415
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 7: Going to be.

1416
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 12: But I do believe the best thing to do is

1417
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 12: to you know what you always do the people do

1418
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 12: in power.

1419
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: Hey, money, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair. Your thoughts on, uh,

1420
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 2: it's tipping culture out of control of Marcell or I'm

1421
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 2: sorry I called you the wrong name again.

1422
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 12: I can't believe the hipping is out of our culture

1423
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 12: because I know, I happen to be the great aggress

1424
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 12: of a railroad. What they did and how shipping became

1425
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 12: comments because the Europeans coming up there and they would see, all.

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01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 2: Right too, do me a favor? Call in again? Would

1427
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: we do this earlier in the show. I want to

1428
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 2: hear more from you, but I don't want to leave

1429
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: the last guy short. So we get everybody. Thank you, sir,

1430
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 2: appreciate your thoughts. Kevin and Idaho wrap us up tonight.

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01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 21: Hey, how you doing so?

1432
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 8: So here's here's what we got.

1433
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 21: I'm thinking if the NFL imposed the same thing as

1434
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 21: what the NBA is doing right now, guys like Deefon

1435
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 21: Diggs and Antonio Camarte, if they took a game off,

1436
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 21: they'd only be, you know, to be thirty or forty

1437
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 21: percent of the season right there, and you know, you

1438
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 21: get a maintenance day and next thing you know, they're

1439
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 21: only playing half the season. So I mean, they're never

1440
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 21: gonna figure it out if they get a day off

1441
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 21: for every.

1442
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 8: Time they have a kid.

1443
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: Well, look, well that's fair. But the NBA is different

1444
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: because they played any two games and the little management

1445
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: things that drives people nuts. That that's what that was

1446
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: born of and we'll see. We're going to report on him.

1447
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 2: Lke will have his day in court, as it were,

1448
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 2: GINO or are to be suspended.

1449
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 15: Well, here's the thing.

1450
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 21: I'd rather go here. I know you're saying, you got

1451
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 21: very easy, very easy. Back back to the blind guy.

1452
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 21: If he's been paying the same price at the subway

1453
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 21: for the last twenty years and all of a sudden

1454
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 21: he has to pay another twenty five percented tip, what

1455
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 21: service is he getting he's getting this?

1456
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: That's where we're going with this. You nailed right, you

1457
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 2: nailed it. That's where we're going with this. Should GINO

1458
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: be suspended, I don't know.

1459
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 13: I don't know.

1460
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 21: We'll I would probably say yes, but we'll see what

1461
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 21: happens there.

1462
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: Kevin, I wish we had more time for you. You

1463
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: were waited patiently online and I appreciate it. Please try

1464
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: to call an earlier when we do this. I hate

1465
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: to cut anybody short, but I got deadlines to meet here,

1466
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 2: and so that's what that's what happens. So we find

1467
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: ourselves in a situation where not everybody feels the same

1468
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,919
Speaker 2: way I feel about GINO, but tipping some good comments

1469
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: coming up. We switched to the NBA lots happen. Yep,

1470
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: you heard the man. The Bernie Fowlers show rolls on.

1471
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: Thanks so much to all the callers in the minute hour.

1472
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I couldn't give you quite as much

1473
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: air time as you deserve. Please call back again and

1474
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 2: we'll get that worked out. Sometimes the topics themselves get

1475
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: a little meaty, like they were tonight, and we do

1476
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: the best weekend and I appreciate everybody took the time

1477
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: to call. You were outstanding. All right, So more news

1478
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 2: in the NBA this week, and it just seems to

1479
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 2: pile up on top of each other. It's that time,

1480
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 2: all right. Welcome in, Mark Mendina. So we begin with

1481
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: the obvious. The Lakers, Mark get a double whammy. Let's

1482
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: take them one at a time. Luca the severity of

1483
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 2: his and when can we really expect him back?

1484
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 22: Yeah, Luca, doctors great to left hamstring strain. I talked

1485
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 22: to a few doctors outside of the Lakers, and they

1486
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 22: to me that timetable is usually four to six weeks.

1487
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 22: So when you look at the counter of that, that

1488
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 22: means that the best case scenario, most likely scenarios, he's back.

1489
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 22: If the Lakers are in the second round, and that's

1490
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 22: obviously a huge eff with Austin Reeves. It's same sort

1491
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 22: of timetable. So I think moving forward, the Lakers are

1492
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 22: in the playoffs, the seedings still in flux. They could

1493
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 22: be third or fourth seed. I don't think they'll lose

1494
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 22: home court advantage, but obviously when you lose your top

1495
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 22: two players, you know it goes out saying they have

1496
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 22: no shot winning championship. But now their playoffs ceiling is

1497
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 22: pretty short.

1498
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know how I feel.

1499
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 8: I did.

1500
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 2: They weren't going to win a championship. They're two and

1501
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: twelve in the last three years, and I don't know

1502
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: how this year was really going to be any different

1503
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 2: if you saw that game against Oklahoma City. But be

1504
01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: that as it made. There's an angle here that I

1505
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: want to pursue because now it's back to being Lebron's team,

1506
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: and how much of what took place and what might

1507
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: transpire here in the new year term might effect whether

1508
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: Lebron is really back as a Laker next year or

1509
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 2: do those things correlate.

1510
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 22: I think everything correlates. I think the complicated thing with

1511
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 22: Lebron in his futures, there's so many variables you know,

1512
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 22: it's his health, it's his performance, it's how the team is.

1513
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 22: You know, I think if I had to guess that

1514
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 22: these injuries don't help. But at the same time, you know,

1515
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 22: I'm seeing the Lakers play Cleveland. I know this is

1516
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 22: with Luca and Austin, but Cleveland seems to be like

1517
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 22: a hot mess with that team, and I don't see

1518
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 22: outside of that any other team he joins, because I'm thinking, well,

1519
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 22: what's the point if he goes to Golden State and

1520
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 22: he has that cool moment with Steph Curry that he

1521
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 22: did in the Olympics, I don't think it does anything

1522
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 22: for him, Like he's not going to get credit if

1523
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 22: they win, but all certainly get criticism if they lose.

1524
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 22: So I think in the short term with the playoffs,

1525
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 22: I think the very interesting irony here is that Lebron

1526
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 22: is obviously had a body of work and very comfortable

1527
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 22: in high stakes playoffs games being the number one guy,

1528
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 22: but the context is completely different. He's forty one years old,

1529
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 22: twenty third season. He's healthy now, but you don't know

1530
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 22: how that's going to play through a growing first round

1531
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 22: playoffs series and without Luca. Doctor Johnson reeves you miss

1532
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 22: a lot of scoring punch, and I do stress that

1533
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 22: they played really good basketball this fast march beyond them,

1534
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 22: DeAndre Aiden's finally buying into his role and they're actually

1535
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 22: being a good defensive team. But it was all tied

1536
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 22: to how well Luca and Austin played. And so I think,

1537
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 22: obviously Lebron has the muscle, memory and the wherewithal to

1538
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 22: be the number one guy, but everything else around him

1539
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 22: is going to be a lot more flawed and a

1540
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 22: lot less margin for air, so it's going to be challenging.

1541
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 2: Again, I stick to my I can't prove it now,

1542
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: but I said it last year and the year before,

1543
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: you know, going nowhere. I mean, look, don't look now,

1544
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: but Houston's won five in a row. They don't look

1545
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: that bad. I don't think they're beating Denver. They're sure

1546
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,799
Speaker 2: as that wouldn't beat at Oklahoma City or San Antonio.

1547
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: And I don't even know that they'd beat in Minnesota.

1548
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: But that's a superfluous argument now because I can't prove

1549
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: it because we're not gonna have Luca or Austin leaf

1550
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: for the first round. It doesn't appear to be that way.

1551
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 2: I just think Lebron wants to stay in LA and

1552
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: he's gonna finagle it any way he can. I could

1553
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 2: be wrong. I don't have any proof what percentage chance

1554
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: will leave it there is Lebron back with the Lakers

1555
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: next year.

1556
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 22: I can't really put a percentage because all this stuff's

1557
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 22: very fluid, But I will say this, Like two months ago,

1558
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 22: I thought it seemed inevitable. The time has run his

1559
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 22: course and both sides are gonna say, you know, goodbye

1560
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 22: after the season. I think that's shanged here, and I

1561
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 22: don't know if that means he's tilting the scale toward

1562
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 22: the Lake curse. But it's not out of the realm

1563
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 22: of possibility. But you know, there's just too many moving

1564
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 22: parts to put a percentage on it. I think the

1565
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 22: interesting thing with this Lakers playoffs is that clearly we're

1566
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 22: all on the same page. That championship thing that's completely

1567
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 22: out the window. It's challenging first round, but their first

1568
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 22: round matchups. I know the Rockets, Yeah they're five game

1569
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 22: winning streak, but I think they're kind of fools. Gold

1570
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 22: Kevin Durant is still playing at all time level, but

1571
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 22: I'm pretty skeptical on those on their young guys and

1572
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 22: how consistent they are. The Minnesota Timberwolves. Yeah, they had

1573
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 22: the Lakers number last year, but I think they've been

1574
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 22: more inconsistent this season. The Nuggets are the team that's

1575
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 22: the real deal. But I think mathematically it seems pretty

1576
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 22: likely that they're not going to face the Lakers in

1577
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 22: the first round, but they're now i think, eclipsing the

1578
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 22: Lakers for third in the West. As far as you know,

1579
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 22: how good they are, So I think before these injuries,

1580
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 22: it wasn't ever enough to seriously challenge San Antonio or

1581
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 22: Oklahoma City barring major injury. But I think it was

1582
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 22: pretty clear that they're a lot better team. They could

1583
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 22: at least make a competitive second round series, and now

1584
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 22: it just seems too much to ask. And the last

1585
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 22: thing I'll point out here is I did talk to

1586
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 22: doctors about Luca's injury. This is before Austin's injury, but

1587
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 22: they said, like, the timetable is aligned for him to

1588
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 22: come back in the play in the playoffs in the

1589
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 22: second round, and if they're able to escape the first round, okay,

1590
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 22: like this is an injury that you can heal pretty

1591
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 22: well if you do it correctly. But with Austin, now

1592
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 22: that completely changes the dynamic here.

1593
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: Well, if you've got Luca and Lebron that are both

1594
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Hall of famers and they're complaining they don't have Austin,

1595
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure I don't want to go down

1596
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,839
Speaker 2: this rabbit hole. But if you watch the game against

1597
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City where they they haunted Luca, he looked like

1598
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: a guy in the mall parking loft couldn't find his car.

1599
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: It was not funny. I'll just leave it there. The

1600
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 2: games are going to be de saided on the floor.

1601
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: Let's you see what happens. Uh. Meanwhile, Jannis is furious

1602
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 2: and now they I understand the league is investigating his

1603
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 2: injury in the air quotes and apparently the relationship with

1604
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 2: Milwaukee's really in the toilet. Now, Uh, what are your

1605
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: thoughts on that?

1606
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's really sad it's gotten to this point because

1607
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 22: I mean, the NBA is an investigation still ongoing, but

1608
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 22: I think it was telling that, you know, the League

1609
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 22: office had said that, you know, they already determined that

1610
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 22: the Bucks had scheduled Giannis to do some three or

1611
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 22: three scrimmages last week as part of his return to

1612
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 22: play process, and Giannis declined to participate. So you know,

1613
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 22: Jannis is giving all these interviews, rattling his sabers, saying, hey,

1614
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 22: I want to play. I want to play well if

1615
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 22: you do, like go through the recovery process here, and

1616
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 22: I'm not naive, Like clearly the Bucks aren't in the

1617
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,560
Speaker 22: position of wanting to win games or out of the playoffs.

1618
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 22: They want to maximize their draft pick. But Giannis has

1619
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 22: an actual injury. It's a calf injury, and these calf

1620
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 22: injuries are very delicate. And so just because you say, oh,

1621
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 22: I'm ready to play well, if they're clearing you for

1622
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 22: three on them, three scrimmaging and you say, no, okay,

1623
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 22: you don't really have a case here. So what really matters, though,

1624
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 22: is clearly the relationships fractured and it's inevitable he's going

1625
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 22: to be dealt. But there is all I also want

1626
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 22: to be surprised. I don't think this is going to happen, Bernie,

1627
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,879
Speaker 22: but I also want to be surprised if Jannis blinks,

1628
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 22: because he's clearly trying to set it up that I

1629
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 22: don't want to be the bad guy. I know their

1630
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 22: choice but to ask out. But he's eligible for an

1631
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 22: extension October, and he's never turned down an extension, so

1632
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 22: we'll wait and see. I think he will be trade

1633
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 22: this offseason because now there's gonna be more bidders. There's

1634
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 22: gonna be more draft picks being dangled before the draft.

1635
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 22: But I think that Giannis is doing this to set

1636
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 22: the narrative that, hey, I'm not the bad guy here.

1637
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 22: I wanted to play. I want to compete for my teammates,

1638
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 22: but the Bucks didn't allow me. But the NBA is

1639
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 22: kind of exposing that isn't entirely accurate.

1640
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 2: Any truth to the rumor that the Golden State Warriors

1641
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:29,879
Speaker 2: will make overtures toward.

1642
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 22: Giannis, Well, for sure, they'll make overtures, but they made

1643
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 22: overtures in February before the trade deadline and the Bucks

1644
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 22: weren't interested. So what's going to change. I think there's

1645
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 22: going to be more bidders. Maybe there's more draft picks

1646
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 22: that the Warriors can package. You know, regardless of what

1647
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 22: what Mike Dunleavy say publicly after the trade deadline, it's

1648
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 22: clear that Draymond Green or Jimmy Butler is going to

1649
01:29:56,120 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 22: have to be part of that deal. But I there

1650
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 22: also might be better, better offers available, whether it's with

1651
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 22: the Knicks, whether it's with the Lakers. That just happened

1652
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 22: when you have a full off season of negotiating as

1653
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 22: well as draft picks being available, because that's just the

1654
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 22: nature of negotiations lean into the draft.

1655
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 2: One last thing about Luca. I think he has a

1656
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 2: valid case with the NBA for the anyway circumstances clause

1657
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: whatever they call it, to be eligible to be voted

1658
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: for m v P. I guess the case will be

1659
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 2: heard between the thirteenth and fifteen, as long as he

1660
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 2: files it. You think Luca prevails, Well.

1661
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 22: I don't think he was gonna win MVP regardless. I

1662
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 22: think it's gonna be Shay giligis Alexander. I would have

1663
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 22: put him third behind Shay. But the larger point, yeah,

1664
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 22: I think that they will rule in his favor for

1665
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 22: all NBA because that's another thing. The sixty five game

1666
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 22: rule isn't just about you know, m VP or Defensive Player.

1667
01:30:58,479 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: Of the Year award.

1668
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 22: It's all NBA and Luca is literally playing sixty four games.

1669
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 22: So to doc, hey, you miss one game. You know,

1670
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 22: he's had some injuries, but not major and some of

1671
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 22: the games that he missed was because you know, the

1672
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 22: birth of his daughter, and you could give an excuse

1673
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 22: for that because that's a huge moment and very very important.

1674
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 22: So yeah, I think the NBA will rule in the favor.

1675
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 22: But frankly, Kate cutting him should get the same treatment

1676
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 22: because he's on the borderline too. And this show is

1677
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 22: that the sixty five game rules flawed. And I'm not

1678
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 22: saying this to you know, cast any like empathy for players,

1679
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 22: like there should have been a better management with making

1680
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 22: players more consistently available. But the NBA, you know, over

1681
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 22: over course corrected. They didn't need to give guidelines to

1682
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 22: voters like Bill Walton is literally the only player that

1683
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 22: was ever vote MVP that played under sixty five games

1684
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 22: in an a two game season. All the other players

1685
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 22: it was because of lockout seasons or this season was

1686
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 22: an eighty two game season. So yeah, Adam Silver, I

1687
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 22: think last month said they're keeping the sixty five game role.

1688
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 22: I think they're going to change that moving forward.

1689
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 2: All right. Last thing, Adam Silver I believe has put

1690
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,560
Speaker 2: forth what he believes are aggressive anti tanking measures. I

1691
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: don't know of any of them. I know what they

1692
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 2: all are. I'm not going to list them. Pick which

1693
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: one you think they'll adopt. You think any of them

1694
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 2: will work.

1695
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 22: Well, what they're showing now isn't going to work. I

1696
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,560
Speaker 22: mean you can dock draft picks, but you know, I

1697
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 22: think teams just you look at that as the cost

1698
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 22: of doing business. Right, it's the same thing as tamper

1699
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 22: and a slap on the wrist. I think really the

1700
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 22: only thing that solves is they abolish the draft, treat

1701
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 22: drafts as free agency. I mean, we're already opening up

1702
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 22: the can of worms with nil that. Just adapt and

1703
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 22: do all that and allow teams that are actually bad

1704
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 22: to have a tool to help them rebuild. And you

1705
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 22: don't allow teams to have repeat lottery picks, and that'll

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01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 22: I think, help at least mitigate it. So I don't

1707
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 22: know if the NBA will actually do that, but that's

1708
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 22: the easy solution.

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01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking the two year record tracking has some area,

1710
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 2: But if you look at this list, I think they're

1711
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: they're grabbing his straws. I think they're just spitting cheese

1712
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: was into the wind. I don't know. There's always going

1713
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 2: to be workarounds, just my opinion.

1714
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 22: Yeah, there's always going to be a workaround, But like

1715
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 22: with anything, it's always about trying to find a new

1716
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,839
Speaker 22: proposal that at least reduces the severity of the problem.

1717
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 22: And I don't think what I've seen really does fair.

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01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, We'll see you man.

1719
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:40,799
Speaker 22: Predy appreciate you as always.

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01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: All right, So coming up, you know, one of my

1721
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 2: callers brought up Tiger Woods. It's why I love them

1722
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,600
Speaker 2: in that hour. Our callers are thoughtful and they go

1723
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 2: with several angles. And he might have been brought up

1724
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: tongue in cheek. But you know what's interesting, they keep

1725
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 2: covering this story. Nick Faldo, the Great Nick Faldo, Cirin

1726
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: neck Faldo had some very scathing remarks on his judgment

1727
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 2: of Tiger Woods, and he was in a Telegram article

1728
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 2: I want to share with you because I cannot recall

1729
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 2: ever in thirty years anybody speaking this kind of ill

1730
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 2: will against Tiger Woods in public. You are going to

1731
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 2: want to hear it. By the way, with the iHeartRadio app,

1732
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: you can stream this wherever you happen to be. Catch

1733
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 2: us at all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live

1734
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven and the new and improved iHeartRadio app.

1735
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 2: Just heard Fox Sports Radio in the app to stream

1736
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 2: us live all day every day. Be sure to select

1737
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in the

1738
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app, so we'll always pop up at the

1739
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 2: top of the screen.

1740
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 8: Coming up.

1741
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 2: The Bernie Fradle Show continues. Keep it locked. It is

1742
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fradle Show.

1743
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1744
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 2: We're back in the Bernie Frata Show. Fox Sports Radio.

1745
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 2: Take up to three m Pacific, six am Eastern. I

1746
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 2: want to remind folks for the best pregame show every weekend,

1747
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 2: be sure to turn into Fox Sports Radio's Countdown presented

1748
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 2: by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday morning. Sunday morning feature

1749
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm man Bill Krackman from nine am to noon Eastern

1750
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: six to nine Pacific, will count you down to all

1751
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,839
Speaker 2: the biggest games of the weekend. Tune into Countdown presented

1752
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 2: by BETMGM, every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on

1753
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio App. I wasn't sure

1754
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 2: that the Tiger Woods story would have this much legs.

1755
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: It continues to be covered in fits and starts all

1756
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 2: week by the media and not just sports channels, and

1757
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see cause I think people have

1758
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: their limits, and I was surprised to see what Nick

1759
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 2: Faldos said. And I'm just gonna read you the quotes

1760
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,839
Speaker 2: from a Telegram article written by a gentleman named James Corrigan.

1761
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 2: This is what sir Nick Faldo had to say about

1762
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods and his recent indiscretion. As it were, quote

1763
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods should not be welcomed back with open arms.

1764
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 2: The Englishman also believes that the Englishman meaning Nick Faldo,

1765
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 2: he believes that the fifteen time major winner quote should

1766
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 2: not be welcomed back. He's perturbed by the manner in

1767
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 2: which Goal's authorities responded. Now Augusta National set out a

1768
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: similarly fawning statement after revealing Woods had withdrawn from next

1769
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 2: week's Masters, and they seemingly brushed it under the carpet.

1770
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 2: Nick Foulder didn't like this. He said, the tour will

1771
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: look after him, they always have done. But then you've

1772
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,799
Speaker 2: got Jack Nicholas saying it is tarnished the entire sport.

1773
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 2: There has to be some accountability. That's what I said

1774
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 2: about Gina Oriema for what he did in front of

1775
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: God and everybody in a semi final game, after making

1776
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,759
Speaker 2: statements about how you got to you win with dignity

1777
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 2: lose with class. He didn't do that, okay, But here's

1778
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 2: where Faldo kicked it into high gear. Believing there should

1779
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 2: be some sort of recrimination from within this sport of

1780
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 2: golf VSA v. Tiger Woods. He said, quote, our sport

1781
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:21,919
Speaker 2: is based on discipline. You rule yourself, you police yourself.

1782
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 2: I would have thought that the PGA Tour behind closed

1783
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 2: doors must be very disappointed. They paid Tiger tens of

1784
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: millions to be on the course and off the course

1785
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,679
Speaker 2: with his business role he got as chairman and player

1786
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 2: of the Player Driven Futures Competition Committee. Quote he has

1787
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 2: only finished nine tournaments in the last nine years, or

1788
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 2: checked that five years. Nine tournaments in the last five years.

1789
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 2: Yet they feel he is the future on the golf

1790
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 2: course and the future of the decision making. And they

1791
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 2: must say, quote, oh boy, what do we get out

1792
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 2: of that. In the normal walk of life, there would

1793
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: be some accountability. He's not wrong, he's not wrong. I

1794
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: don't know what's gonna happen with Tiger Woods. And I

1795
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 2: got to tell you by saying that he needs help,

1796
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: and I guess he's going out of the country. He's

1797
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 2: you know, it's a quite it's a tacit admission that

1798
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 2: there was something going on that day and the substances,

1799
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 2: even though he wouldn't. I think his lawyers have a

1800
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 2: little bit more of a battle now than I would

1801
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 2: have originally originally thought. And you know, I again, we

1802
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 2: rehash this last week, so I don't need to revisit it.

1803
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 2: But I would just say, you know, fool me once,

1804
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 2: shame on you fool me four times? Well, you know

1805
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 2: or that I'm going with that, it's been a it's

1806
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 2: been a rough week. Look La fans before Luca got hurt,

1807
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 2: and I genuinely was looking forward to seeing what the

1808
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 2: Lakers could do with Luca and Lebron and Austin Reeves

1809
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 2: and I will just you could run back the tape,

1810
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 2: find the podcast. I said they wouldn't do it anything

1811
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year they lost to Minnesota. They did

1812
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 2: not look good doing it. The last three years, we

1813
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 2: have the same hope and optimism. They're two and twelve

1814
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 2: in the last three years, and I don't think it

1815
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 2: would have been any different this year. That's just how

1816
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 2: I feel based on what I've seen. The playoffs are

1817
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 2: a far different animal, and you got three guys on

1818
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 2: the floor. If getting significant minutes and none of them

1819
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: can really play defense. But be that as it may,

1820
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 2: and I think Luca deserves to have an opportunity to

1821
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 2: be eligible for the All NBA team. I believe that.

1822
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 2: And I said earlier in the show, you know, LA

1823
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 2: fans were rejoicing. Only two players in NBA history have

1824
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 2: scored more than six hundred points in a month of March.

1825
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 2: The first Michael Jeffrey Jordan back in nineteen eighty seven

1826
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 2: March scored six hundred and seventy six points that month.

1827
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Luca scored six hundred points March of twenty twenty six.

1828
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 2: By the way, even Kobe never did that. He scored

1829
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 2: five hundred and seventy eight points in March of twenty

1830
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 2: oh six. And you may have heard me sing the

1831
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 2: praises the Dodgers. Money can't buy a pennant, It can't.

1832
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 2: It's been tried. Only the Dodgers seem to have cornered

1833
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 2: the market on that. I know it leaves people ticked off.

1834
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: They're out of the gate in a huge way. And

1835
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 2: how about shoheo tani is John Facenda, God rest his soul.

1836
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 2: The voice of NFL Films used to like to say

1837
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 2: if he was talking about Joey Atani, he would say

1838
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 2: he is to drain the vocabulary of superlatives. And Shoey

1839
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:35,839
Speaker 2: has two Major League Baseball leading strenks right now, anybody

1840
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,799
Speaker 2: talk about this. As a hitter, he's got the longest

1841
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 2: current regular season on base streak of thirty six games.

1842
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 2: As a pitcher, show hey, the longest current regular season

1843
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 2: scoreless any streak twenty two in the third innings. Both

1844
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 2: of those belong to the city of Los Angeles, and

1845
01:40:56,600 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 2: I think they must be happy they do. I want

1846
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 2: to read a tweet from Purito here. Prito, Danny, longtime listener,

1847
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 2: appreciate you. He says, you haven't shared yet. But I

1848
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 2: agree with Faldo. Tiger has ran to rehab every time,

1849
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 2: trying to avoid consequences, not for actual help. And his

1850
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 2: whole act about calling Trump as a low key bully

1851
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: tactor to the officers Bush League. He's lucky he hasn't

1852
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,639
Speaker 2: killed anyone yet. He's not wrong. Prito is not wrong.

1853
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 2: Take this. Let's be honest. Here that situation back in

1854
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, he almost lost his leg. Look at

1855
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 2: the car. It was mangled. And again, this isn't the

1856
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: first time. So you heard what you heard what? Actually

1857
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 2: he sent a tweet before I read Nick Fellow's comments,

1858
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 2: but he was kind of prescient. That's where Faldo Falo

1859
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 2: was going. And again I want to reiterate my thoughts. First,

1860
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,560
Speaker 2: Luca now reeves. I get it. This was supposed to

1861
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 2: be a different year. That is bovine scatology. If you

1862
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 2: just simply watched the Lakers, how far off course they

1863
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 2: were against Oklahoma City they lost. They could have lost

1864
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 2: that game by eighty points. And the way this team

1865
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 2: is constructed, you've got two Hall of famers, once past

1866
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 2: his prime, even though he can put up numbers, and

1867
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 2: he wants to stay around and be part of the spotlight.

1868
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 2: I think that's only his only motivation. And I know

1869
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 2: it's against a lot of practice psychology without a license,

1870
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 2: but that's simply how I feel about that. So prove

1871
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 2: me wrong. Prove me wrong, go out and beat somebody

1872
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. You're two and twelve in the last

1873
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 2: three years. Hey, guess what two weeks for Thursday, we

1874
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 2: got this little thing called the NFL Draft. Who bettered

1875
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 2: awigh In Now not sure if he's including it in

1876
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 2: this week's feature, but pretty soon, some of these big

1877
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:51,799
Speaker 2: names you've been hearing are going to be on NFL

1878
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 2: rosters and perhaps on your fantasy roster count September. Remember,

1879
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 2: the future always has a way of arriving at a schedule.

1880
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 2: Once we've had the draft in the NFL, things really

1881
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 2: start to pick up steam. Signed up for Brandon's Fantasy Files.

1882
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:14,919
Speaker 6: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football

1883
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 6: segment are got one gone?

1884
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 23: What is up everybody? And yes, Bernie, we are going

1885
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 23: to be talking about the NFL Draft exclusively today in

1886
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,480
Speaker 23: Fantasy Files because a lot of these prospects will possibly

1887
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 23: be on your rosters this upcoming season, or if you

1888
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 23: have a dynasty league, maybe a little sooner, depending on

1889
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 23: when you have the dynasty draft. Now, I wanted to

1890
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 23: dedicate this segment today to best fits and worst fits

1891
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 23: for these prospects that I think are entirely known by

1892
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,560
Speaker 23: a lot of the fantasy public. And these are the

1893
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 23: top prospects at the playmaker positions for this NFL draft.

1894
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 23: And we'll start with Denzel Boston and I think the

1895
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 23: best fit is the Patriots. His last name is Boston

1896
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 23: for gosh sake, right, Like, this guy is built to

1897
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 23: play in New England. I think he's gonna fall, and

1898
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 23: if he falls past the forty nine Ers, I think

1899
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 23: he goes to the Patriots at thirty one. Drake May

1900
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,680
Speaker 23: needs a wide receiver one. I don't think he has that,

1901
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 23: And maybe they still have that deal that they claim

1902
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 23: some sources claimer in place post June first, so the

1903
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 23: Eagles can save some money for aj Brown. But even

1904
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 23: if that's the case, Denzel Boston's a perfect fifty to

1905
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 23: fifty ball guy, contested catch guy for Drake May, and

1906
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 23: the forty nine Ers would only be a perfect fit

1907
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 23: because Mike Evans is there, and who's even calm to

1908
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 23: Mike Evans. Worst fits would be the Browns and the Jets,

1909
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 23: and I'm sorry you're gonna hear those two teams a

1910
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:39,600
Speaker 23: lot on this list, no quarterback typically means not a

1911
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 23: great fit for a wide receiver. Now there's only a

1912
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 23: few wide receivers that it really doesn't matter where they go,

1913
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 23: but it always matters a little bit, like Cleveland doesn't

1914
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 23: have a quarterback. I don't care how much you like

1915
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 23: Shador Sanders. He had the worst season statistically in a

1916
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 23: long time for quarterbacks, and I get he was thrown

1917
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 23: into an unfortunate and really not a situation that was

1918
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 23: helpful for him, But he still had Harold Fan and

1919
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 23: junior at Quinn John Judkins touring the end of the year.

1920
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 23: He still held the ball for twenty to five seconds,

1921
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 23: it seemed like every single play before going through his reads.

1922
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 23: So yes, I don't think Shador Sanders is the answer,

1923
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 23: and I do also want to see another season for

1924
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 23: him Jets. Obviously Geno Smith is not the answer. So

1925
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 23: you're gonna hear those two teams a lot throughout the segment.

1926
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 23: Let's get to Casey concept. She and I think the

1927
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 23: best fits are the forty nine ers for one reason,

1928
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 23: kick returner and the forty nine ers lost sky More.

1929
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 23: They need a kick returner and a punt returner, but

1930
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:31,600
Speaker 23: that's not who you're spending your first round pick on.

1931
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 23: He's also a yards after catch guy who can fit

1932
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 23: the Brandon ayukroll that they're ultimately gonna lose. They're gonna

1933
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 23: they're holding on brand and I trying to get a

1934
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,560
Speaker 23: seven round pick from the Commanders, but they're ultimately not

1935
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 23: going to mend things with Brandon Ayuk. This is a

1936
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 23: guy who can fill his role and also provide some

1937
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 23: versatility by returning kicks. Steelers is another good fit for him,

1938
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 23: just because they lost to Austin And I think they

1939
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,560
Speaker 23: could use a receiver like Concept Shean to kind of

1940
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 23: fill that yards after catch slot receiver role.

1941
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: He could do that.

1942
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 23: Worst fits again Jets Browns, But I'm als still gonna

1943
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 23: the Bills. They have too many yak guys already. They

1944
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 23: just traded for DJ Moore. They don't need another small

1945
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 23: receiver like Casey Concept shown to just do yak stuff

1946
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 23: for Joe Brady's fascination on yards after catch types of receivers.

1947
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 23: They need a really a true X receiver like Boston.

1948
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 23: They didn't hit on Ken Coleman, And no, Boston is

1949
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 23: not Kean Coleman. He's ten times better than Coleman ever

1950
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 23: was as a prospect. Mackay Lemon best fits Rams and Chiefs.

1951
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 23: Why two elite quarterbacks. Rams perfect fit along alongside pookinakoy

1952
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 23: He's a proven blocker, plays a lot like pukin Akua

1953
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 23: in terms from the slot. But Puka was used on

1954
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 23: the outside and the slot all over the place, right,

1955
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,879
Speaker 23: So having another slot guy like McKay lemon isn't.

1956
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 2: The end of the world.

1957
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 23: You can always move Pooka outside. They've utilized him in

1958
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 23: multiple situations in their scheme. Chiefs is another good fit

1959
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 23: simply because of Patrick Mahomes and just what they do

1960
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 23: with the yards after catch stuff. If for she Rice,

1961
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 23: I know the stuff came out that he's not going

1962
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 23: to be disciplined for the new incident, regardless, he's still

1963
01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 23: a good fit.

1964
01:46:58,600 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 7: There.

1965
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 23: Worst fits jets Rave, Why the Ravens, Well, they have

1966
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 23: Za Flowers. Kay Lemon is not a vertical threat. He

1967
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 23: is a slot receiver. They have Za Flowers, they do

1968
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 23: not need mkay Lemon. So let's go to Carnal Tate

1969
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 23: and the best fit is the Ravens because they don't

1970
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 23: have that. You could argue they've never had a vertical

1971
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 23: threat at wide receiver for Lamar Jackson that was any good.

1972
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 23: So Carnal Tait is a perfect fit. So you could

1973
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 23: stop throwing fifteen yard route like passes to Zay Flowers right.

1974
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 23: Worst fits would be Commanders and Chiefs. I just don't

1975
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 23: like Carnal Tate's fit alongside Xavier Worthy and Rashid Rice

1976
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 23: personally in that offense, you can use Worthy as a

1977
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 23: vertical threat and the Commanders. I just don't like his

1978
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 23: fit alongside Terry McLaurin. Let's get to Jeremiah Love, Chiefs, Giants, Commanders.

1979
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 23: I think all are great fits. He's going to one

1980
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 23: of those teams. I don't think the Titans are at

1981
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 23: play there at four, unless Dallas jumps him to take

1982
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 23: David Bailey at three, which has been talked about. That's

1983
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 23: a whole separate conversation. But I do think the worst

1984
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 23: fits would be Titans in Miami, obviously because Devon a

1985
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 23: chance there and his teammate from Notre Dame, Jendarien Price

1986
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 23: best fit as the Seahawks. I think that's who they're

1987
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 23: going to target in round two. It's looking like only

1988
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 23: one running back's gonna go a Round one, but remember

1989
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 23: Bucky Irvin in the past went round three after not

1990
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 23: having a great Pro day. I'm not saying Price didn't

1991
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 23: have a great Pro day, but I'm just saying it.

1992
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:13,560
Speaker 23: You don't have to be round one to be a

1993
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 23: star in fantasy football, right and Omar Cooper Junior will

1994
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 23: end here before we get into this again next week.

1995
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 23: Steelers forty nine, Ers, Bills all great fits just because

1996
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 23: he can do so much great footwork can be utilized

1997
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 23: all across the field. As a yak guy in the

1998
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 23: backfield worst fits though. Cowboys don't think about taking a

1999
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,560
Speaker 23: wide receiver. You need defense. Everybody knows it, and the

2000
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 23: Jets for obvious reasons, no quarterback back to you, Bertie.

2001
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 23: I'm Brandon Deutsch. You can find me at BSD takes

2002
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 23: on X and Brandon S Deutsch on TikTok.

2003
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 2: Good stuff. On Denzel Boston. I think Newinga could really

2004
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 2: use him, especially in cool weather. He lit it up

2005
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 2: at Washington. Then he's a big receiver with an attitude

2006
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: and so, and I agree with your assessment on shudor

2007
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 2: one percent. You know who Cam wore, Cam Newton, by

2008
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 2: the way, I like cam Ward. Look that Cam Newton

2009
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 2: had to throw to his rookie year. Okay, yes, he

2010
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 2: had a Steve Smith who all commanded double teams and

2011
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 2: he had a rookie in I believe gre greg Olsen

2012
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: got Brandon LaFell and a bunch of no names and

2013
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 2: he still lit it up. So you know, you could

2014
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,560
Speaker 2: give shoodor Jerry Rice. I'm not. I'm not buying the

2015
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 2: whole act anymore. And I've given I've given enough minutia

2016
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 2: about that. All right, good stuff. The draft is two

2017
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 2: weeks from Thursday. I know Brandon has some really good

2018
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 2: stuff on that coming up. The ABS system, Okay, now

2019
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't want any you know, I'd like to get

2020
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Mike Greenberg in a room and debate him. He is

2021
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 2: oozes with a self a grand divesment about if you disagree, well,

2022
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:53,640
Speaker 2: you're traditionalists. No. No. Over the years, I've enjoyed the

2023
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 2: evolution DH Dome stadiums. After turf wild Card playoffs night

2024
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: Baseball at Wrigley I got. I think to pitch clock

2025
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 2: is good, bigger basis, no big deal of shift band.

2026
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 2: I hate the ghost runner. Baseball is a thinking man's game.

2027
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 2: You know, advanced scouting and knowing your opponent's tendencies is huge.

2028
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 2: Same with knowing a play DUNP player. Okay, I get

2029
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 2: that ABS has captured the imagination of fans everywhere. But

2030
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 2: is this turning the game into a game show circus

2031
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 2: or is it actual strategy. I'm gonna give my thoughts

2032
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 2: on the ABS system in Major League Baseball coming up.

2033
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,880
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2040
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2041
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2042
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2047
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 2: Before I get to my thoughts on the ABS system,

2048
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 2: which I get kind of makes for good TV, digress

2049
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 2: for just a second. I got a tweet from monkey Biz.

2050
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 2: Doug in South Korea said, living and working here in

2051
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 2: South Korea, just like Tony said, there is no tipping

2052
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 2: and the prices are upfront with excellute service and pride.

2053
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 2: That was from our midnight hour. We talked about the

2054
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 2: tipping culture being out of control. You you know, order

2055
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 2: takeout and they put the digital thing in front of

2056
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: your face. You get where I'm going with at so

2057
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 2: want to include as much input from the folks as possible. Look,

2058
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 2: let's talk about the ABS system, because eighty five percent

2059
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 2: of people love it. I'm not against evolution in baseball.

2060
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 2: So when you know, people like Mike Greenberg come out

2061
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: and say traditionalists hate this, he can go kick rocks.

2062
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 2: So I'm not really sure how he defines traditionalists. But

2063
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 2: I've been around this game a long time and I've enjoyed.

2064
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 2: I've said the evolution of the dh Dome, stadiums, AstroTurf,

2065
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 2: wild Card playoffs, night Baseball at Wrigley. Okay, I've always said,

2066
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 2: just don't mess with sixty feet six inches and ninety

2067
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 2: feet between the bases right to the pitchclock. I think

2068
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 2: it's good, bigger bases. No problem with that shift band.

2069
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 2: You want to do that, Okay, hitter got to keep

2070
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 2: one foot in the batter's box. Now I hate the

2071
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 2: extra innings ghost runner because baseball is a thinking man's game.

2072
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 2: And my beef with the ABS is teams advanced scout

2073
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 2: like crazy. They know hitters tendencies, they know defensive tennancies,

2074
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 2: they know umpires tendencies, knowing your opponent's tendencies is huge,

2075
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 2: same with the player umpire. Now I get it that

2076
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 2: ABS has captured the imagination of fans, But I ask you,

2077
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 2: is this turning baseball into a game show circus or

2078
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 2: is there real actual strategy here? Now human umpires make

2079
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 2: the actual calls, but you can trigger an instant technological

2080
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:29,560
Speaker 2: review you get you have. Everybody starts the game with

2081
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 2: two and you can be wrong twice and that's it.

2082
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 2: You're done with your challenges. But if you keep getting

2083
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,599
Speaker 2: them right, hell, you can challenge with all you want right,

2084
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 2: you retain your challenges if you're successful. That's what That's

2085
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: why I call it like a game show. I got

2086
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 2: to thinking about this. I think there are some teams

2087
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 2: maybe it's starting to happen now that figure out it

2088
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 2: may not be so smart to challenge early in the

2089
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 2: game when you might want that challenge later when it matters. Like,

2090
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,680
Speaker 2: you know, if you're trying to tie a ball game

2091
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 2: with men in scoring position, you're down a run and

2092
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 2: someone gets wrung up on a bad third strike, call

2093
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarbro, who I think is one of the best

2094
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 2: players in baseball. Obviously, I saw one of his bats

2095
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 2: about ten days ago. It was like the third inning.

2096
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 2: I believe he challenged a strike two call and he

2097
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 2: was wrong. It got overturned, so they lost the challenge.

2098
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 2: And then the very next pitch, it was worthy challenge

2099
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 2: because it looked a little low, but sure enough, the

2100
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 2: baseball was barely touching the box, the strike zone box.

2101
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 2: That's you know that the computer relies on, the eagle

2102
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 2: relies on if it's just barely touching. It's just like

2103
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 2: if the basketball, you know, offensive goaltending. If the ball

2104
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 2: is just touching the rim but hanging off and you

2105
01:54:56,560 --> 01:55:01,839
Speaker 2: touch it, you're screwed. So the very next Kyle Schworber

2106
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 2: was rung up, punched out on a pitch. It really

2107
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 2: did look low and he was on it. He couldn't

2108
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 2: challenge it. There were at challenges, so he challenged it

2109
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 2: on two strikes. I don't know why you would challenge

2110
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 2: early in the game because there's so much more baseball.

2111
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 2: You can't win a game in the third inning, and

2112
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 2: typically you can't lose it in the third inning.

2113
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 12: It can't.

2114
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 2: But let's not split hairs here. But when you get

2115
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 2: to the seventh, eight to ninth, when baseball becomes so

2116
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 2: much more specialized and especially the ninth when you know,

2117
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 2: darn well it's hardest for the pitcher to get those

2118
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 2: last three outs. Maybe you need to push one run across.

2119
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 2: You don't know. You let the game dictate. But I

2120
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 2: would only want to challenge on a third strike. That's

2121
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 2: just me. And if there were men in scoring position,

2122
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: and you know, I think right now it's pretty preparent

2123
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 2: to me that the catcher should really be the only

2124
01:55:53,120 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 2: one to challenge, you know, the pitch, because they're receiving

2125
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 2: one hundred pitches every game and they have to have

2126
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 2: that perspective in getting a feel what the umpire tenancies are.

2127
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 2: And when I look at that box, how do we

2128
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 2: know that's even accurate? That artificial box? You can question

2129
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 2: that as well, right But the game show factor teams

2130
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 2: are learning that not all challenges are equal. Again, they're

2131
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 2: giving us statistical models that's suggest challenging early in an

2132
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 2: inning with multiple runners on base, well, that provides the

2133
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 2: highest positive run value, but it's a very small sample size,

2134
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 2: whereas challenging with two ouss often less viable unless it

2135
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 2: prevents an inning ending strikeout. Well, hell yeah, that would

2136
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 2: be more valuable in my opinion. You got to put

2137
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 2: the ball in play, and if you're wrung up on

2138
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 2: a bad pitch that you couldn't hit with the canoe paddle,

2139
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 2: it could happen. I know, Angel Hernanez isn't working anymore,

2140
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 2: but look, ABS uses this hawkeye camera to track the

2141
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 2: ball's path through a two D zone. So one of

2142
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 2: the things this does take away is traditional framing from

2143
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 2: a catcher. I don't know a pitcher that doesn't like

2144
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 2: a catcher who is good at framing. It gives you

2145
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 2: an opportunity again, baseball, so the thinking man's game to

2146
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:20,879
Speaker 2: potentially fool an umpire. Now that's becoming far less relevant

2147
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 2: in these high leverage spots where challenge is available. The

2148
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 2: only good thing I like about is there's a two

2149
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 2: second rule. Challenges must be made within roughly two seconds

2150
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 2: of the umpire's call. This prevents from the bench and

2151
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 2: all this data analysis to influence a decision and study.

2152
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 2: So this is forcing players in the heat of the

2153
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 2: moment within two seconds to rely purely on instinct and

2154
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 2: their internal feel for the strike zone. What we're finding

2155
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 2: is a lot of the better hitters in the game

2156
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 2: might just know the strike zone better than umpires. Well

2157
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 2: they should because they're paid to hit. Okay, again, back

2158
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 2: to the game show aspect, it's almost like wants to

2159
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 2: be a millionaire? Do you save your challenge? Do you

2160
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 2: save your lifeline? Because now we're finding teams maybe need

2161
01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 2: to do some late hoard, late game hoarding. Keep at

2162
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 2: least one challenge for the eighth or ninth inning. That's

2163
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 2: going to be critical for high leverage game over scenarios.

2164
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 2: All right. By the way, hitters now have to adjust

2165
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 2: to high breaking balls that nick the top of the zone.

2166
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 2: What looks high to the human eye is now a

2167
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 2: strike to Abs. Well, if I will take the human

2168
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 2: eye over Abs anytime, do you want Abs to fly

2169
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 2: an airplane? Now? Major League Baseball has banned tools like

2170
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 2: the green card system, which the Brewers tried it to

2171
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 2: prevent the bench from signal League players win the challenge.

2172
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 2: One good thing about the rule is you get to extreenings,

2173
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 2: you get a reset, you get one challenge, perenting if

2174
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 2: you're already out of challenges, okay, I will. And apparently

2175
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 2: League Baseball they're trying to, you know, prevent people from

2176
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:08,160
Speaker 2: doing workarounds and cheating. They're delaying all broadcasting game day

2177
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 2: pitch tracking data by you know, ten seconds or so.

2178
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 2: That will ensure players can't get outside help before the

2179
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 2: two second window closes. So look, and we're gonna talk

2180
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 2: to Larry Sorenson about this. He pitched in the Major

2181
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 2: League for ten years, one ninety three games. He retired

2182
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 2: nine straight men in the All Star Game. He threw strikes.

2183
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 2: He knows what a strike looks like. I'm guessing he

2184
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 2: probably likes it. But we're gonna get his thoughts. We're

2185
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 2: gonna get his thoughts on it. But I really take

2186
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 2: on brage with if someone says, well, you're just a traditionalist. No,

2187
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:43,840
Speaker 2: I take a you know, I take it as it comes.

2188
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 2: I've said it again, I'll say it again.

2189
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 8: D H.

2190
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:50,480
Speaker 2: I was okay with it. Dome stadiums, AstroTurf, wild Card playoffs,

2191
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 2: night Baseball at Wrigley, the pitch clock, bigger basis, the

2192
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 2: shift band, although I thought was stupid because if you

2193
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 2: want to compromise your defense because someone's stubbor, but they've

2194
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 2: been doing that since Ted Win playing. So the long

2195
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 2: and the short of it is, by the way, monkey

2196
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 2: bizdug another good tweet here, who certified to adjust standardizer

2197
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:12,480
Speaker 2: check abs against the set standard that's the thing. I

2198
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 2: don't know if there is a set standard. They want

2199
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 2: to sell us that there is, but I am not

2200
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:19,760
Speaker 2: so sure. But we'll dive into this coming up. Look

2201
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 2: it's here to stay, and I'll tell you this. It's

2202
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:25,360
Speaker 2: a precursor to where they're going to call every pitch.

2203
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 2: The Empire will stand there, but he'll be there, Stu

2204
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 2: Je only keep a lock. You listening to the Bernie

2205
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:32,080
Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox Foorth. It's right, you heard the man.

2206
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 2: The Bernie Fraddle Show keeps rolling right along. We'll take

2207
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 2: you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. Let's

2208
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 2: shift our attention to baseball. The season is well underway

2209
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:45,879
Speaker 2: with lots of storylines already. It's welcome in our baseball

2210
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 2: on Saturder. And you know, in the history of Major

2211
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:52,000
Speaker 2: League Baseball, twenty two thousand people have played Major League Baseball,

2212
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:54,840
Speaker 2: but only one retired nine in a row in a

2213
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball All Star Game, including four Hall of Famers.

2214
02:00:58,600 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 2: I think he think knows a thing or two about

2215
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 2: throwing strikes as welcome in. Larry Sorenson, Hey, Larry, I

2216
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:04,440
Speaker 2: appreciate you getting up early. Man.

2217
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 10: Bernie, how are you doing?

2218
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 18: Thank you.

2219
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 2: So I want to dive right into this ABS thing,

2220
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 2: which is really sort of the headliner of the season

2221
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 2: so far, before I get into specific questions. Now, give

2222
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 2: me your overall take on at pros and cons and

2223
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 2: if you like it.

2224
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 19: Oh, that's a great question. I think the jury is

2225
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 19: still out as much as anything. And I know that's

2226
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 19: pretty noncommittal, in a little bit weak, but I think

2227
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 19: that it's not interfering with the flow of the game.

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02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 2: I really like that.

2229
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 19: I think we're seeing more pitches overturns than I thought

2230
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 19: we would. I thought the percentages would be a little

2231
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 19: bit different. That's been a little bit surprising to me

2232
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 19: because I had a chance in the college getting to

2233
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 19: see some of the scores of umpires, and there were

2234
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 19: a lot of umpires that were getting ninety plus percent

2235
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:54,200
Speaker 19: on their game notes for a day. It's all involved

2236
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 19: in So think about it, Bernie.

2237
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 8: You know how hard it is to get You've been

2238
02:01:58,000 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 8: in the box.

2239
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:01,160
Speaker 19: Looking at guys throwing non five with the ball moving

2240
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 19: two different directions.

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02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 10: Well, it's just as hard to umpire as it is

2242
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 10: to hit it.

2243
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:10,560
Speaker 2: I could agree more. And I'm concerned about the integrity

2244
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 2: of the strike zone box that little box they put

2245
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 2: up there. What are your thoughts on that?

2246
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:18,640
Speaker 19: You know, I don't think that the first one was right,

2247
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 19: and I'm not entirely sure that they've got around. I

2248
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:22,840
Speaker 19: think the one that we all got so used to

2249
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 19: watching and taking for granted as the end all be

2250
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 19: all with that box that we saw on TV, there's

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02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 19: a lot of things that can affect that. And I

2252
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 19: didn't believe in that one, and that was proven to

2253
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 19: be true that it wasn't entirely accurate. And again I'm

2254
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 19: going to withhold judgment on the new one. But I

2255
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 19: think they've made the system better. I think they're closer.

2256
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 19: I'm not sure we've got the final product yet.

2257
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 2: No, it's well said. I think you're spot on, And

2258
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 2: part of it is team strategy. Why would you Why

2259
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,520
Speaker 2: would you engage in a challenge early in a game?

2260
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 2: And if it's not a third strike punch out, why

2261
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:59,240
Speaker 2: would you do it any other time? Maybe I can

2262
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 2: learn something here, but it seems like you want to

2263
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 2: do it in a high laverorage situation. It might cost

2264
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 2: your runs with men in scoring position. What are your

2265
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:07,080
Speaker 2: thoughts it's.

2266
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 19: Like withholding good time out till the end of the game.

2267
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:12,880
Speaker 19: I agree with you one thousand percent that why waste

2268
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 19: one early and cost yourself something when it's not in

2269
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 19: a crucial situation.

2270
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 10: Unless you're trying to prove something to the umpire.

2271
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 19: I think that there's still also a lot of experimenting

2272
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 19: going on by the players that are trying to find

2273
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 19: some things out. How and the teams, you know, what

2274
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 19: is the best strategy, How do we use this to

2275
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:34,360
Speaker 19: the best effect that we possibly can? And I think

2276
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 19: that it's going to take a while for it. Like

2277
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:39,720
Speaker 19: anything else new in the game of baseball, it's going

2278
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 19: to take a while for itself to settle out.

2279
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 2: But there's one aspect of this that concerns me a little.

2280
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:48,320
Speaker 2: We both agree baseball is a thinking man's game, and

2281
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 2: you won ninety three games in the big least. You

2282
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 2: don't do that without preparation. No one hitters tendencies, no

2283
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 2: umpires tendencies. And I'm sure you love a good catcher

2284
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 2: who knows how to frame and maybe full an umpire.

2285
02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 2: It seems like we're taking some of that element out

2286
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:03,960
Speaker 2: of the game. That's the part I don't like your thoughts.

2287
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 19: Well, I think that the few amount of times that

2288
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 19: you can use it has a little bit of an

2289
02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 19: effect on that because I think you still use the

2290
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:13,919
Speaker 19: catcher's ability to frame.

2291
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 10: The ball for the majority of the time.

2292
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 19: You know, we're only talking about a couple of appeals

2293
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:21,120
Speaker 19: per game, so you still have to do the work

2294
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 19: the rest of the time. And you know, as you say,

2295
02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 19: all the time, by any games in baseball is a

2296
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:28,720
Speaker 19: game of repetition. And so the fact that you're throwing

2297
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:31,920
Speaker 19: a couple of hundred pitches on each side during the

2298
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 19: course of the.

2299
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 10: Game, but you can only use a couple of appeals, I.

2300
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 19: Think still makes those other factors important, still makes trying

2301
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 19: to steal a strike importance, still makes the way that

2302
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 19: you receive a ball important to the way that the

2303
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:46,000
Speaker 19: game is played.

2304
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:49,920
Speaker 2: So I want to make sure I'm not wrong on this.

2305
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 2: I think every teams go ahead, Larry, that would be

2306
02:04:55,720 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 2: a first you being wrong. Here's where I was going

2307
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 2: with that. So I believe every team is gifted to

2308
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 2: challenges to start the game. You only allowed to be

2309
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 2: wrong twice, but as long as you keep getting them right,

2310
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 2: you can keep challenging. Is that not the case? I

2311
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 2: kind of like your idea where you only get to period.

2312
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 19: Well, that's the way I understand it as well, And

2313
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 19: I've got no problem with continuing if you're right, And

2314
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 19: I'll tell you why, because I know the way that

2315
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,480
Speaker 19: I felt as a pitcher, that I knew the strike

2316
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:30,880
Speaker 19: zone and had a really good idea. But I also

2317
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:33,720
Speaker 19: knew that I wore contact lenses in my foot yard

2318
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:37,160
Speaker 19: very severely when my foot hit the ground and then

2319
02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:40,080
Speaker 19: I had my follow through, so my head was moving,

2320
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:42,120
Speaker 19: and so I didn't get as good a look at

2321
02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:44,680
Speaker 19: the ball as sometimes a hitter in the umpire drew

2322
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 19: either and you're on a windy day out in San

2323
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 19: Francisco or a rainy day someplace, or you know, it's

2324
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 19: hard for the picture to understand exactly where his strike

2325
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 19: zone is as well. And I don't think that the

2326
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,280
Speaker 19: players are correct one hundred percent of the time either,

2327
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 19: So I don't think that we can assume that the

2328
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:06,960
Speaker 19: players always know. Again, the ball's moving ninety five ninety

2329
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:11,000
Speaker 19: seven miles per hour in two different directions, and where

2330
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:14,160
Speaker 19: is it crossing the plate? And you know, in the

2331
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 19: plate seventeen inches wide, so it's really really can be

2332
02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:21,480
Speaker 19: a difficult thing. And guys, you know, when you're barely

2333
02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,920
Speaker 19: scraping that little box that they put up. It's a

2334
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 19: pretty fine measurement.

2335
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 2: Especially if there's twilight, shadows, a bad hitting background, too

2336
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:37,200
Speaker 2: much sun. Yeah, it all factors in well.

2337
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 19: And you think about you think about it. You know

2338
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 19: again it comes and as baseball very frequently does, things

2339
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 19: are it's more than a century old. You're trying to

2340
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:50,600
Speaker 19: square a round objects up with a round bat and

2341
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:53,200
Speaker 19: trying to square it up. You know, it's a difficult

2342
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 19: thing to do. And if you're a dime off on

2343
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 19: the sweet spot of.

2344
02:06:56,360 --> 02:06:58,800
Speaker 10: The bat, you're getting a pop up for a round ball.

2345
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 2: So it's a tough thing to do. One of the

2346
02:07:01,360 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 2: most astude adages in baseball. You fail seven times again,

2347
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 2: you check out. You fail seven times out of ten.

2348
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:10,080
Speaker 2: You might get Hall of Fame votes. You got eight

2349
02:07:10,120 --> 02:07:12,600
Speaker 2: times out of ten. You're talking on I'm talking on

2350
02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 2: the radio. Anyway, you brought up something because you threw

2351
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 2: to Buck Martinez, who was one of the brightest catchers

2352
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:21,480
Speaker 2: to play the game. I have a chance to talk

2353
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:23,920
Speaker 2: to Buck many times. You threw to him anytimes. We're

2354
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:26,880
Speaker 2: finding catchers are becoming cool to chief of challenges because

2355
02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 2: they're seeing one hundred pitches a game. I think that

2356
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 2: part's good. Would you have deferred to Buck on a

2357
02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:34,440
Speaker 2: challenge if they had it back when you were playing?

2358
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:38,840
Speaker 19: I certainly the Buck Martinis on everything during the course

2359
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 19: of the game, and that was one of the reasons

2360
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 19: I had the you know, the limited success that I

2361
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 19: did was because he took a lot of the thinking

2362
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 19: part out of it for me. Bernie, and I told

2363
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:50,880
Speaker 19: you this story before, but I would throw eight change

2364
02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 19: ups a game just so that the advanced scout from

2365
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:56,440
Speaker 19: the other team would go back to his team and

2366
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 19: write in his report, will throw a change up to

2367
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,120
Speaker 19: a right hand or all the left hander, And that

2368
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 19: got the hitter thinking about three pitches instead of just

2369
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 19: the two pitches that I wanted to get him out with.

2370
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 19: Because I was a thinker, slighter change guy, and I

2371
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 19: just wanted to have it the report that I had

2372
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:13,320
Speaker 19: it and would throw it, and so I'd go along,

2373
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:14,960
Speaker 19: you know, and it would come to a spot where

2374
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 19: I knew it wasn't gonna hurt me. I didn't care

2375
02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 19: if it was a ball or if it was a strike,

2376
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:20,160
Speaker 19: or what it was going to do. I just wanted

2377
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 19: to throw it to show up and I'd look in

2378
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 19: and I'd say, well, I'll get a fool almost here,

2379
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:27,920
Speaker 19: and I'd look in and sure enough he's wiggling his fingers.

2380
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:29,280
Speaker 10: Saw him for a change up, you know.

2381
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:32,280
Speaker 19: So he was a bright guy. Just retired broadcast. He's

2382
02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 19: been the Blue Jays broadcaster forever. It seems like after

2383
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 19: being their manager and chatting with him recently we were

2384
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 19: going to have we were going to have breakfast, and

2385
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 19: then they retired the same day.

2386
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 2: He's great. He's a great guy. Great guy he was.

2387
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:49,000
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you right now a little inside baseball stuff.

2388
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,320
Speaker 2: If you got a hit her thinking you've already won, Larry,

2389
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 2: you can't hit and thinke it. He just can't do it,

2390
02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 2: all right. One last question on this well, one last

2391
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 2: question on this subject. I believe I'll defer to you

2392
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 2: that this is basically going to be a precursor and

2393
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:08,480
Speaker 2: it's just a matter of time before you have an

2394
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 2: umpire standing back there like a cigar store Indian, but

2395
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 2: a robot umpire whatever you call this, hawkeye whatever, is

2396
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:16,680
Speaker 2: going to tell him to call a ball or a strike,

2397
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:21,720
Speaker 2: and every pitch is going to be dictated by this system.

2398
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 2: Is this a precursor to that?

2399
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 19: I think the possibility is there I really hope that

2400
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 19: it doesn't because I still love the human element of

2401
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 19: the game, you know, I still like the fact that

2402
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:39,720
Speaker 19: an umpire gets makes the fall at home Steve Anna

2403
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 19: to see if it's right or not, both on the

2404
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:45,160
Speaker 19: on the actual play and on the pitch, and we

2405
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 19: get another look at it. But it amazes me how

2406
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:51,320
Speaker 19: many times they do get it right. I think one

2407
02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 19: of the you know, one of the great things about

2408
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,880
Speaker 19: it is that no matter what the umpires say, the

2409
02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 19: fan is still going to have their own interpretation. Look

2410
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:04,640
Speaker 19: at the comments on social media sometimes when they put

2411
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:07,840
Speaker 19: up a place safer out, you know, and look at

2412
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 19: people interpret it, and you get fifty to fifty depending

2413
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 19: on whether you're a fan of a home team or

2414
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 19: you're not a fan of the home team.

2415
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 10: So that on thement's always going to.

2416
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:17,360
Speaker 8: Be there too.

2417
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm in agreement. I hope they keep this wards at

2418
02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 2: and again, I still think it's a thinking man's game,

2419
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:28,400
Speaker 2: and people, Larry, you knew not to doubt my mind.

2420
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 2: You knew umpires tendencies. Some guys saw the little pitch,

2421
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 2: some guys did, and some guys are you know, carrying

2422
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:36,720
Speaker 2: a little more weight than other guys. Et cetera, based

2423
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:39,200
Speaker 2: on their body type, whether they set up behind the

2424
02:10:39,240 --> 02:10:41,720
Speaker 2: plate where you get all that, and I just I

2425
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 2: hate to see that go. We get the last word

2426
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:43,400
Speaker 2: on that.

2427
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:49,000
Speaker 19: Let's see right at the end of at the start

2428
02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 19: of my career was when they still had the outside protectors.

2429
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:56,480
Speaker 19: Oh remember that protect goodness, Yes, I think people don't

2430
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 19: remember those. A lot of people don't remember those. When

2431
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 19: they had the outside productor is a big thing that

2432
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:05,320
Speaker 19: they had the lug around that interfered with everything, which

2433
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:07,320
Speaker 19: was really interesting. And then they went to the test

2434
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 19: detectors like the catcher where which was much better for

2435
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 19: the game. But yeah, we had an umpire we called

2436
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:20,160
Speaker 19: rough guess because rhyme's just his name. And I'll let

2437
02:11:20,200 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 19: you figure out what I get figure it out.

2438
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:24,200
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna I'm knocking out the guy. I'm

2439
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 2: not going out the guy. But you had big guys

2440
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:27,480
Speaker 2: like John McSherry.

2441
02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:32,480
Speaker 19: Look the problem was a great, excellent umpire.

2442
02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 2: And a great banquet speaker too. But the thing is

2443
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:37,480
Speaker 2: you're right about that giant and I bet you on

2444
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:39,600
Speaker 2: some levels an amateur ball they might still use it.

2445
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 2: Maybe not, but I would just say this that truly

2446
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:47,720
Speaker 2: inhibited an umpire's vision, but so and so does a catcher,

2447
02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 2: and so does the various lighting. Would you agree, Larry,

2448
02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:53,640
Speaker 2: you hit sixty at bats to the big leagues it's

2449
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:55,360
Speaker 2: easier to hit at night than during the day. Right,

2450
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:56,760
Speaker 2: you see the ball better night? Is that fair?

2451
02:11:57,680 --> 02:11:58,320
Speaker 19: Absolutely?

2452
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:01,600
Speaker 2: I agree with that, So that that factors into hold

2453
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:04,040
Speaker 2: this whole thing as well, seeing it and hell with

2454
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:06,600
Speaker 2: the damn robots. All right, I want to talk about

2455
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 2: this because it is a story, and I know you'll

2456
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 2: be objective and fair. Tony Vatello took over for the

2457
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:16,320
Speaker 2: Giants this year. He's an interesting interview. There're three and

2458
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 2: six means nothing. I think you got to give at

2459
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:20,120
Speaker 2: least forty to fifty games to see what they look like.

2460
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:26,600
Speaker 2: But you were part of multiple organizations, solid organizations, the Oklonas,

2461
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:29,560
Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Cardinals, the Milwaukee Brewers. How would you

2462
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:31,280
Speaker 2: violencely felt? And I know you played for one of

2463
02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 2: the great college coaches of all time and will be benedict.

2464
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:37,240
Speaker 2: But the professional, the major league game, it's so much different.

2465
02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:39,959
Speaker 2: How do you feel of a guy walks into the clubhouse,

2466
02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:43,560
Speaker 2: what does he have to do to win over that clubhouse? Well?

2467
02:12:43,640 --> 02:12:46,000
Speaker 19: I'm not sure how objective and fair I can be

2468
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:48,560
Speaker 19: about it, because there's a small history there, but from

2469
02:12:48,640 --> 02:12:49,880
Speaker 19: the regional's a couple of years.

2470
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:52,160
Speaker 10: Putting that aside.

2471
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 19: Putting that aside, I think the thing that I think

2472
02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:59,040
Speaker 19: about the game of baseball is it's a game of endurance, right,

2473
02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:02,200
Speaker 19: one hundred and sixty two times in about one hundred

2474
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,520
Speaker 19: and ninety two in about one hundred and ninety days,

2475
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 19: you have to go.

2476
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:08,560
Speaker 10: Out there and play, Okay, So it's a grind.

2477
02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:13,040
Speaker 19: And I don't believe you can get into an emotional

2478
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:15,520
Speaker 19: roller coaster every single day.

2479
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:17,440
Speaker 8: I just don't think you can do it.

2480
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:19,360
Speaker 10: I don't think you can play at one.

2481
02:13:19,360 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 19: Hundred percent of your mental capacity every single day. I

2482
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 19: don't think anybody in any job anywhere can go in

2483
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 19: every day and say, boy, I really was at one

2484
02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:31,760
Speaker 19: hundred percent mentally sharp and physically start today. It just

2485
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 19: doesn't happen. It's too much of a grind. And I

2486
02:13:34,480 --> 02:13:37,280
Speaker 19: think that what Tony Battello tries to bring in is

2487
02:13:37,400 --> 02:13:39,720
Speaker 19: that let's go get one for the different guys and

2488
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:42,840
Speaker 19: you know, rah rah rah. And I don't believe that

2489
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:44,480
Speaker 19: you can do that, and I think that's going to

2490
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:49,360
Speaker 19: wear the players down after a while, different series, World series, playoffs,

2491
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:53,560
Speaker 19: you know, things in that nature. When you're playing five

2492
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:57,240
Speaker 19: games in a week in the playoffs, that's a different story.

2493
02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:00,200
Speaker 10: Then you can bank on that emotion. And the other

2494
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:01,720
Speaker 10: factor is the.

2495
02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:05,840
Speaker 19: Emotion sometimes can hurt you just as much in baseball

2496
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:07,600
Speaker 19: and in basketball, come to think of.

2497
02:14:07,600 --> 02:14:10,360
Speaker 8: It, but it can hurt you just more.

2498
02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:11,800
Speaker 19: In baseball because.

2499
02:14:11,560 --> 02:14:14,360
Speaker 10: The harder you try to throw, the softer you do,

2500
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:17,240
Speaker 10: the harder you try to swing, the more.

2501
02:14:17,080 --> 02:14:20,360
Speaker 19: You disrupt your swing. So sometimes letting that emotion take

2502
02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:24,040
Speaker 19: over in key situations can hurt you as much as

2503
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 19: it helps you.

2504
02:14:24,920 --> 02:14:26,800
Speaker 2: I might not have brought the subject up tonight, but

2505
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 2: after the Giants started going too, he had a new

2506
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:31,760
Speaker 2: Rockney speech. I just don't know how that's going to

2507
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:33,680
Speaker 2: play at a major league clubhouse, with all due.

2508
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:37,240
Speaker 19: Respect, And you can't come up with fifty or sixty

2509
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:40,120
Speaker 19: new Rockney speech is a year and expect it to

2510
02:14:40,240 --> 02:14:45,680
Speaker 19: have any effect. Yet, you know, it's like cursing. If

2511
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:48,360
Speaker 19: every other words an fbomb, using an F bomb doesn't

2512
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:49,360
Speaker 19: mean anything.

2513
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:52,320
Speaker 2: It loses effectiveness. Yeah, very very true. Well, I hear

2514
02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:55,040
Speaker 2: there's good news. He's instituting something. When they win, they

2515
02:14:55,080 --> 02:14:56,920
Speaker 2: get a snow colne after the game. But maybe that'll

2516
02:14:56,960 --> 02:15:00,320
Speaker 2: work all right, you know, I gotta have a smart ass, Larry.

2517
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:05,160
Speaker 2: This last subject really looking forward to you diving into,

2518
02:15:06,240 --> 02:15:10,200
Speaker 2: because there is this overarching cloud. We now find out

2519
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:13,680
Speaker 2: that the Major League Baseball Players Association, which as you know,

2520
02:15:13,800 --> 02:15:15,840
Speaker 2: you were a player rep you were part of it

2521
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:17,720
Speaker 2: in eighty one, and then the four day deal in

2522
02:15:17,800 --> 02:15:22,960
Speaker 2: eighty five, it's lookingomymous when you hear that the union

2523
02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:27,320
Speaker 2: has accumulated a five hundred and nineteen million dollar war chest.

2524
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:29,640
Speaker 2: What are the odds, I don't mean to put a

2525
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:31,160
Speaker 2: gun to your head, what are the odds that there

2526
02:15:31,240 --> 02:15:34,520
Speaker 2: is some sort of work stoppage either heading into twenty

2527
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:37,400
Speaker 2: seven or maybe even before this season ends.

2528
02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:40,520
Speaker 19: Well, I think there's a really really good chance we're

2529
02:15:40,520 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 19: going to have some kind of a work stoppage. And

2530
02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 19: I'm not sure which party is going to be responsible

2531
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:47,040
Speaker 19: for it, but I think that there's a very very

2532
02:15:47,080 --> 02:15:48,720
Speaker 19: good chance that we will have some kind of a

2533
02:15:48,760 --> 02:15:50,400
Speaker 19: work stoppage. And you hate to see it.

2534
02:15:50,480 --> 02:15:51,480
Speaker 8: It's not good for the game.

2535
02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:53,240
Speaker 10: It's not good for the players, it's not good for

2536
02:15:53,320 --> 02:15:53,839
Speaker 10: the owners.

2537
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:54,320
Speaker 2: Both.

2538
02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:57,800
Speaker 19: Everybody loses. When you have that kind of a situation.

2539
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:01,760
Speaker 19: The great thing about it is that fans are resilient

2540
02:16:02,120 --> 02:16:04,920
Speaker 19: and fans will come back. And you, yes, you will

2541
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:07,800
Speaker 19: lose some, no question about that. But I think that

2542
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 19: it's a very low percentage because people love the game.

2543
02:16:11,200 --> 02:16:14,760
Speaker 19: People love watching the game and getting excited about it

2544
02:16:14,840 --> 02:16:18,120
Speaker 19: and cheering for their home team, and the fans will

2545
02:16:18,200 --> 02:16:18,640
Speaker 19: come back.

2546
02:16:18,720 --> 02:16:21,600
Speaker 10: And that's probably not the right way to look at it.

2547
02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:24,960
Speaker 19: But it's too great a game to not continue and

2548
02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:26,880
Speaker 19: not go on. And I hate the fact that I

2549
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,520
Speaker 19: believe it's going to happen. That money goes in a

2550
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:31,360
Speaker 19: hurry too. By the way, and by the way, it

2551
02:16:31,480 --> 02:16:34,120
Speaker 19: has always been there for the players. You know, They've

2552
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:36,840
Speaker 19: always had a ward Chester reserve. That's been one of

2553
02:16:36,879 --> 02:16:39,920
Speaker 19: the strengths of the union as well, is that the players.

2554
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:42,680
Speaker 8: Know the union will be there for them and they've been.

2555
02:16:42,640 --> 02:16:43,440
Speaker 7: Able to count on that.

2556
02:16:44,200 --> 02:16:46,360
Speaker 2: I agree with all everything you just said. The question

2557
02:16:46,480 --> 02:16:49,600
Speaker 2: I have is how delusional is this group of owners.

2558
02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:52,840
Speaker 2: It's a different group than nineteen ninety four. Do they

2559
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:55,640
Speaker 2: really think the players would bend the need to a

2560
02:16:55,720 --> 02:16:58,240
Speaker 2: salary cap? I can't see ever happening, but they may

2561
02:16:58,320 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 2: believe that is the truth to that.

2562
02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 19: I think they're fooling themselves if they believe that. And

2563
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:06,640
Speaker 19: I think the other thing that's hurting the owners is

2564
02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:09,400
Speaker 19: that we're starting to see the values of the teams

2565
02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:12,040
Speaker 19: when they're being sold and they're being turned over a

2566
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:13,959
Speaker 19: little bit more rapidly. But when you see the pod

2567
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:16,720
Speaker 19: Raids estimated to have a value of three point two

2568
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:20,360
Speaker 19: billion dollars, it's a little bit difficult to say, well,

2569
02:17:20,440 --> 02:17:22,400
Speaker 19: to you, why aren't you spending more to win more?

2570
02:17:22,879 --> 02:17:23,040
Speaker 8: You know?

2571
02:17:23,320 --> 02:17:24,920
Speaker 10: And how do you spend more if you've got to

2572
02:17:24,959 --> 02:17:25,480
Speaker 10: salary that.

2573
02:17:26,040 --> 02:17:26,800
Speaker 8: So I think the.

2574
02:17:26,879 --> 02:17:31,800
Speaker 19: Fans believe that the owners rightly or wrongly, fairly or unfairly.

2575
02:17:32,360 --> 02:17:35,480
Speaker 19: I think the fans and players believe the owners have

2576
02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:37,640
Speaker 19: unlimited resources.

2577
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:38,240
Speaker 8: To be able to use it.

2578
02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:40,760
Speaker 19: And there's too many times when they have shown that.

2579
02:17:41,200 --> 02:17:44,160
Speaker 19: And when you have organizations like the Dodgers coming out

2580
02:17:44,480 --> 02:17:46,119
Speaker 19: with deferred payments, that's.

2581
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:47,120
Speaker 10: Starting to become a trend.

2582
02:17:47,480 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 19: Now all of a sudden, we realize they figured out

2583
02:17:49,560 --> 02:17:52,720
Speaker 19: a loophole that does make it possible to have the

2584
02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:55,760
Speaker 19: big salaries for their team, And now the fans just

2585
02:17:55,840 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 19: start believing, well, our guy is just too cheap to

2586
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:02,760
Speaker 19: dig in if she doesn't have the resources, somebody else

2587
02:18:02,879 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 19: takes the team over.

2588
02:18:04,959 --> 02:18:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just common sense everything you just said there.

2589
02:18:07,879 --> 02:18:09,840
Speaker 2: And the thing that bothers me is in this day

2590
02:18:09,879 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 2: and age, with regional national TV contracts and merchandising, every

2591
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,160
Speaker 2: team starts the season with one hundred million in the

2592
02:18:16,240 --> 02:18:19,080
Speaker 2: kiddy before selling a ticket. And there are multiple teams,

2593
02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:22,240
Speaker 2: not a few, that their payil is below a hundred million.

2594
02:18:22,280 --> 02:18:23,360
Speaker 2: And that's that's egregious.

2595
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 19: I just agree adds one thousand percent. Agree with you,

2596
02:18:26,760 --> 02:18:28,720
Speaker 19: A thousand percent agree with you if you do have

2597
02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:32,000
Speaker 19: it the I you know what happened to your competitive

2598
02:18:32,080 --> 02:18:33,040
Speaker 19: spirit as an owner?

2599
02:18:33,600 --> 02:18:33,720
Speaker 7: Right?

2600
02:18:33,800 --> 02:18:35,480
Speaker 10: You know if you're if you're not.

2601
02:18:35,640 --> 02:18:38,160
Speaker 19: Getting over money you already have in the bank before

2602
02:18:38,200 --> 02:18:40,920
Speaker 19: you before you start adding on the sideline things.

2603
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:44,200
Speaker 2: Well, the Griffith family was the last true baseball family.

2604
02:18:44,280 --> 02:18:46,560
Speaker 2: The other team it's all corporations now, all right.

2605
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:48,880
Speaker 19: I can't let you go without asking this next week

2606
02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:50,600
Speaker 19: when they walk all of them too.

2607
02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:53,680
Speaker 2: Somehow they were repetitive in the sixties. They were they

2608
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:58,119
Speaker 2: were good, you know, I don't know, maybe Halsey Halls

2609
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:02,039
Speaker 2: of well that's a different story for Larry Ken. Let

2610
02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:05,080
Speaker 2: you go without asking you Monday night, your Wolverines trying

2611
02:19:05,160 --> 02:19:07,800
Speaker 2: to do the Big ten right since two thousand, against

2612
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:12,600
Speaker 2: a team looking for their seventh championship since nineteen ninety nine.

2613
02:19:12,640 --> 02:19:13,800
Speaker 2: Do you like Michigan Monday night?

2614
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 19: I do like the Michigan But boy, that's an awful

2615
02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:19,160
Speaker 19: lot of points that they're talking about.

2616
02:19:19,320 --> 02:19:20,080
Speaker 8: Seven and a half.

2617
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:23,040
Speaker 10: That's big in it in a championship game.

2618
02:19:23,280 --> 02:19:26,440
Speaker 19: I was a little bit surprised by that. But watching

2619
02:19:26,480 --> 02:19:29,200
Speaker 19: the way that they played last night without their superstar

2620
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:32,360
Speaker 19: makes you wonder. They're pretty deep in you know. It

2621
02:19:33,240 --> 02:19:35,880
Speaker 19: goes to they talked about all the time. Nine starters

2622
02:19:36,320 --> 02:19:39,720
Speaker 19: on a basketball team. That's what makes teams win well.

2623
02:19:39,959 --> 02:19:43,320
Speaker 19: And in baseball, you don't win with twenty five. You

2624
02:19:43,400 --> 02:19:46,000
Speaker 19: win with thirty five or forty, you know, and your

2625
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:49,480
Speaker 19: superstars have their years the other people after contributing. I

2626
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:52,400
Speaker 19: think that's one of the great things Michigan's got going for. Yes,

2627
02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:54,640
Speaker 19: I do like them very much. In that game Monday night,

2628
02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:57,640
Speaker 19: they were dominant last night. They're playing their best basketball

2629
02:19:57,720 --> 02:19:59,640
Speaker 19: at the right time of the year. I think Dustin

2630
02:19:59,720 --> 02:20:01,760
Speaker 19: Mays a great coach and is going to be there

2631
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:04,640
Speaker 19: for a long time, and the program's in a pretty

2632
02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:05,520
Speaker 19: good spot right now.

2633
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:09,080
Speaker 2: Well, give it up to your alma mater college baseball

2634
02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:11,760
Speaker 2: World Series championship game or the best of three and

2635
02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:16,960
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen national championship in football, and now who you

2636
02:20:17,080 --> 02:20:19,920
Speaker 2: got a shot in basketball? Other than that, not much

2637
02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:23,240
Speaker 2: going on right Larry. I can't I can't thank you

2638
02:20:23,400 --> 02:20:27,280
Speaker 2: enough for your expertise. A thirty year broadcaster, ten years

2639
02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:28,960
Speaker 2: in the major leagues. You've been there, done that, and

2640
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:31,200
Speaker 2: you can articulate it. So I hope to get you

2641
02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:33,160
Speaker 2: on more off And I just feel guilty of getting

2642
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:35,240
Speaker 2: you up early in the morning, but I really appreciate it.

2643
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:38,360
Speaker 19: I'm awakes anyway, Bernie, pality time.

2644
02:20:38,959 --> 02:20:40,960
Speaker 2: Good good. We want to lean on you because this

2645
02:20:41,080 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 2: is going to be an interesting season and there's plenty

2646
02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:45,680
Speaker 2: of other subject matter to get to. Thanks so much, Larry. Oh,

2647
02:20:45,680 --> 02:20:47,200
Speaker 2: by the way, tell where they can find your stuff

2648
02:20:47,240 --> 02:20:49,440
Speaker 2: again on the pitch Logic Baseball.

2649
02:20:50,080 --> 02:20:51,520
Speaker 19: Hey, pitchlogic dot com.

2650
02:20:51,720 --> 02:20:52,200
Speaker 8: Check it out.

2651
02:20:52,280 --> 02:20:54,680
Speaker 19: You can get an individual player package, or you can

2652
02:20:54,680 --> 02:20:57,640
Speaker 19: get a package for your entire team or your entire facility.

2653
02:20:57,680 --> 02:21:00,280
Speaker 19: And we were talking about setchers and framing strike. I've

2654
02:21:00,320 --> 02:21:03,360
Speaker 19: got coaches that turn the camera on the catcher to

2655
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:05,480
Speaker 19: see how they're receiving the ball because they know what

2656
02:21:05,640 --> 02:21:08,280
Speaker 19: the pitch is and they see how the catcher's catching it.

2657
02:21:08,320 --> 02:21:10,400
Speaker 19: So you can do catchers drills well, but as well

2658
02:21:10,400 --> 02:21:11,599
Speaker 19: as doing pitchers.

2659
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:16,280
Speaker 2: Drills, very good soft hands help too. That those help too.

2660
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Larry, great stuff, as always, man and

2661
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:22,200
Speaker 2: Pitchlogic dot com. Please check it out. This is the

2662
02:21:22,320 --> 02:21:25,760
Speaker 2: future of baseball and I think it's a if you

2663
02:21:25,800 --> 02:21:27,680
Speaker 2: want to be better, you want to reach your ceiling,

2664
02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:30,640
Speaker 2: whatever that may be, you'd be wise to check this out. Larry, again,

2665
02:21:30,640 --> 02:21:31,560
Speaker 2: appreciate you very much.

2666
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:33,720
Speaker 19: Talk to you Sun.

2667
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:37,120
Speaker 2: All right. That's Larry Sorenzon ten. You're major leaguer, thirty

2668
02:21:37,160 --> 02:21:43,280
Speaker 2: year broadcaster Pitchlogic dot Com. Always a good, heady conversation

2669
02:21:43,840 --> 02:21:47,760
Speaker 2: about baseball. We agree baseball's a thinking man sport should

2670
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:50,760
Speaker 2: be treated as such. Coming up to Bernie frattleshow continues

2671
02:21:50,840 --> 02:21:53,280
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. This is the Bernie Frattle Show on five.

2672
02:21:53,400 --> 02:21:56,240
Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2673
02:21:56,280 --> 02:21:59,640
Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2674
02:21:59,720 --> 02:22:03,840
Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2675
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:04,640
Speaker 6: listen live.

2676
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:13,520
Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Frattle show Fox Sports Radio.

2677
02:22:14,480 --> 02:22:17,360
Speaker 2: As usual, I have about eight hours of material tonight

2678
02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:19,920
Speaker 2: we try to fit into four. One of them had

2679
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:22,760
Speaker 2: to I was I'm gonna do this in a future show.

2680
02:22:23,720 --> 02:22:25,920
Speaker 2: But we've talked in the past about the nine nine

2681
02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:29,120
Speaker 2: to nine Challenge and the Saint Louis all you can

2682
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:30,800
Speaker 2: eat and if you sit in a certain section, and

2683
02:22:31,320 --> 02:22:32,800
Speaker 2: I was going to do a thing to that. On

2684
02:22:32,920 --> 02:22:38,120
Speaker 2: exotic foods in baseball, not just in America. Were in

2685
02:22:38,200 --> 02:22:42,320
Speaker 2: Seattle late. It's not just hot dogs, crackerjacks and peanuts,

2686
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:47,760
Speaker 2: it's toasted grasshoppers. Yeah, I mean, it's there's some crazy

2687
02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:51,039
Speaker 2: stuff in San Francisco going around. But in Tokyo, by

2688
02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:52,920
Speaker 2: the way, if you're at the Tokyo Dome, which I'm

2689
02:22:52,920 --> 02:22:55,440
Speaker 2: gonna be at later in the year, they tell me

2690
02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:58,080
Speaker 2: to check out the takoyaki. You know what that is?

2691
02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:02,560
Speaker 2: Friday octopus. Yeah, they sell it at the ballpark. Yeah,

2692
02:23:02,600 --> 02:23:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get into this. You wouldn't be some with

2693
02:23:05,080 --> 02:23:07,760
Speaker 2: stuff to sell in Denmark and South Africa and Bangkok

2694
02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 2: at sporting events. You'll get a crack up. You'll love

2695
02:23:10,879 --> 02:23:13,920
Speaker 2: this segment, but I'm gonna save it for when I

2696
02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:16,959
Speaker 2: can give it its full due. Well, we're about sixty

2697
02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:21,160
Speaker 2: five days away from World Cup Soccer. Yeah, it is

2698
02:23:21,440 --> 02:23:24,440
Speaker 2: upon us, right here on our soil. US team once

2699
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:30,200
Speaker 2: again look about as sharp as a donut. Sorry, gotta

2700
02:23:30,200 --> 02:23:31,880
Speaker 2: call him as I see him. It's sign for Chris

2701
02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:32,959
Speaker 2: Perfet's World of Soccer.

2702
02:23:34,879 --> 02:23:45,480
Speaker 6: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama.

2703
02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:54,160
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of soccer.

2704
02:23:54,440 --> 02:23:56,040
Speaker 24: So unfortunately, on the world of soccer, we have to

2705
02:23:56,040 --> 02:23:59,560
Speaker 24: do a little housekeeping to start. I screwed up last

2706
02:23:59,600 --> 02:24:03,280
Speaker 24: week in talking about World Cup qualifiers. I was under

2707
02:24:03,320 --> 02:24:06,600
Speaker 24: the impression that Italy had cleared that for the first

2708
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:11,120
Speaker 24: time since twenty fourteen, that Italy would return to the

2709
02:24:11,200 --> 02:24:15,880
Speaker 24: World Cup and try to actually continue their legacy that

2710
02:24:16,040 --> 02:24:18,760
Speaker 24: is now twenty years old now of their World Cup victory.

2711
02:24:19,200 --> 02:24:19,840
Speaker 14: I was wrong.

2712
02:24:20,320 --> 02:24:22,800
Speaker 24: I had thought Northern Ireland was the one that got

2713
02:24:22,840 --> 02:24:24,960
Speaker 24: them in. I had completely forgotten that they had had

2714
02:24:25,280 --> 02:24:29,440
Speaker 24: a second game against Bosnia and Herzegovina. Now, Bosnia and

2715
02:24:29,520 --> 02:24:33,560
Speaker 24: Herzegovina should not have been much of an issue for Italy. Unfortunately,

2716
02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:37,000
Speaker 24: I remember saying the same thing when Italy had to

2717
02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:39,840
Speaker 24: play North Macedonia to get into the World Cup. One

2718
02:24:39,959 --> 02:24:43,880
Speaker 24: one went to penalties and Bosnia should lackt them on

2719
02:24:44,040 --> 02:24:48,160
Speaker 24: penalties for one. So Bosnia is in the World Cup

2720
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:53,680
Speaker 24: and Italy for the third straight, for the third straight

2721
02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:59,119
Speaker 24: World Cup is not going to participate. It is embarrassing

2722
02:24:59,240 --> 02:25:02,640
Speaker 24: for the Azuri. At this point, I once again reiterate

2723
02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:08,160
Speaker 24: bo Italy has not won a knockout round game since

2724
02:25:08,240 --> 02:25:10,640
Speaker 24: they took the Cup in two thousand and six. There

2725
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:14,320
Speaker 24: is an entire generation of Italian fans who have not

2726
02:25:14,480 --> 02:25:19,840
Speaker 24: seen their country win anything outside of maybe a group stage,

2727
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:23,879
Speaker 24: and even then that's getting old. It's really they haven't

2728
02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:25,840
Speaker 24: been to World Cup since twenty fourteen.

2729
02:25:26,320 --> 02:25:26,959
Speaker 1: It's not good.

2730
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:30,760
Speaker 24: Meanwhile, for Bosnia and Herzegovina, they celebrated in the streets.

2731
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:35,800
Speaker 24: It was miraculous scenes in Sarajevo. You should go look

2732
02:25:35,840 --> 02:25:36,160
Speaker 24: them up.

2733
02:25:36,760 --> 02:25:37,400
Speaker 4: A lot of people.

2734
02:25:37,480 --> 02:25:41,800
Speaker 24: It's a great, wonderful, wonderful story for them. For the Italians,

2735
02:25:42,120 --> 02:25:44,040
Speaker 24: it is back to figuring out what the hell has

2736
02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:47,920
Speaker 24: gone wrong with this generation, and the Italian coach Gennaro

2737
02:25:48,040 --> 02:25:51,879
Speaker 24: Gattuzo is out by quote mutual consent.

2738
02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:54,000
Speaker 1: That seems appropriate.

2739
02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:58,080
Speaker 24: If I sound disheartened, if I sound upset, it is

2740
02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:01,200
Speaker 24: because I have grown up as a fan of the Ajuri.

2741
02:26:01,800 --> 02:26:04,640
Speaker 24: I have not watched this team do anything relevant since

2742
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:08,240
Speaker 24: Francesco Toddy, my favorite player, was on the World Cup

2743
02:26:08,320 --> 02:26:11,400
Speaker 24: team over twenty years ago. And Francesco Toddy had not

2744
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:13,320
Speaker 24: been on the World Cup team for a long time.

2745
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:16,640
Speaker 24: And even before Covid he took his final farewell victory

2746
02:26:16,720 --> 02:26:19,360
Speaker 24: laps around the Stadi Olympico in Rome.

2747
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:22,039
Speaker 1: It's been a really long time.

2748
02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:25,760
Speaker 24: This is a team that won euros in twenty twenty,

2749
02:26:25,879 --> 02:26:29,120
Speaker 24: and yet even with that squad to win Euro twenty twenty,

2750
02:26:29,400 --> 02:26:33,640
Speaker 24: they did not qualify for the next World Cup. It's

2751
02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:36,920
Speaker 24: not good at all. It's really not good. Now we

2752
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:39,039
Speaker 24: have to continue on a story we did last week

2753
02:26:39,080 --> 02:26:42,240
Speaker 24: as well, which is the United States because in their

2754
02:26:42,400 --> 02:26:47,840
Speaker 24: second international friendly against a European side, Portugal. In this case,

2755
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:53,760
Speaker 24: the United States was once again completely completely outclassed in

2756
02:26:53,879 --> 02:26:58,640
Speaker 24: an embarrassing way to nil. Portugal takes that victory on

2757
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:02,800
Speaker 24: US soil in Atlanta, and credit to United States coast

2758
02:27:02,840 --> 02:27:08,080
Speaker 24: Maurcio Pochettino. Taking the chance to make a massive change

2759
02:27:08,120 --> 02:27:10,800
Speaker 24: the lineup, six changes to line up versus what he

2760
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:13,880
Speaker 24: had taken against Belgium, he put Christian Fulosic in a

2761
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:17,000
Speaker 24: central role at the top of the formation. He didn't

2762
02:27:17,040 --> 02:27:21,680
Speaker 24: help Pulisic at all. He is still in that scoring sclump.

2763
02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:24,640
Speaker 24: He is the eighth straight game for the United States

2764
02:27:24,680 --> 02:27:27,160
Speaker 24: without a goal, and he still hasn't scored a goal

2765
02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:30,840
Speaker 24: for his club team Milan since December of last year,

2766
02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:37,600
Speaker 24: so Captain America is not exactly shining. Meanwhile, Portugal was

2767
02:27:37,640 --> 02:27:41,959
Speaker 24: out without Christiano Ronaldo or Bernardo Silva, two of their

2768
02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:45,200
Speaker 24: biggest stars out there. Ronaldo is injured, Silva was not

2769
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:48,320
Speaker 24: part of the team for the March window. They still

2770
02:27:48,440 --> 02:27:52,200
Speaker 24: dominated the United States and I don't know. I think

2771
02:27:52,200 --> 02:27:54,160
Speaker 24: I was talking with one of our other producers who says,

2772
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:57,280
Speaker 24: Pochettino looks like he knows that he's a guy who

2773
02:27:57,360 --> 02:27:59,879
Speaker 24: is going to get fired at some point. I don't

2774
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:03,360
Speaker 24: think that'll happen before the World Cup, and quite frankly,

2775
02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:07,120
Speaker 24: at this point, I don't blame Bochettino as much. I

2776
02:28:07,240 --> 02:28:09,720
Speaker 24: think he's been struggling with this, but we've watched I

2777
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:12,199
Speaker 24: don't know how many coaches now struggle with this group

2778
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:15,600
Speaker 24: of American talent. That he's gotten more depth than ever,

2779
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:18,720
Speaker 24: and this is still a team that just can't get

2780
02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:21,760
Speaker 24: it done. I just don't know what's gonna happen to

2781
02:28:21,760 --> 02:28:23,680
Speaker 24: the United States come the World Cup. At this point,

2782
02:28:23,800 --> 02:28:27,080
Speaker 24: DraftKings has them at minus five seventy five to get

2783
02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:28,760
Speaker 24: out of the group stage, and I almost feel like

2784
02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:30,200
Speaker 24: taking a bet against that.

2785
02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:31,200
Speaker 1: At this point.

2786
02:28:31,720 --> 02:28:35,080
Speaker 24: It's just frustrating to watch the United States puts against

2787
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:38,440
Speaker 24: anyone outside of a CONCACAFT tournament, and I don't care

2788
02:28:38,520 --> 02:28:40,720
Speaker 24: that they do very well on a CONCACAFT tournament. It

2789
02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:44,640
Speaker 24: doesn't translate, apparently, Why doesn't it translate? Meanwhile, I look

2790
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:47,040
Speaker 24: at Mexico Mexico, and I hate to bring up the

2791
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:50,560
Speaker 24: past US generation, but this current Mexican squad has the

2792
02:28:50,720 --> 02:28:56,840
Speaker 24: same gritty, nasty attitude that that the Donovan era US

2793
02:28:56,959 --> 02:28:59,720
Speaker 24: team had. They have an US versus the world mentality.

2794
02:29:00,040 --> 02:29:04,280
Speaker 24: They also played Portugal and Belgium in friendlies and they

2795
02:29:04,720 --> 02:29:07,360
Speaker 24: took both them to a draw nil nil against Portugal,

2796
02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:09,280
Speaker 24: one to one against Belgium. I don't know if that

2797
02:29:09,320 --> 02:29:10,920
Speaker 24: gets you anywhere in the World Cup. They have a

2798
02:29:11,000 --> 02:29:14,560
Speaker 24: slightly tougher group, especially being paired up against Checchia, but

2799
02:29:14,760 --> 02:29:18,080
Speaker 24: at the same time, Mexico is at least resilient in

2800
02:29:18,160 --> 02:29:20,320
Speaker 24: a way that this American team is not. And I

2801
02:29:20,400 --> 02:29:23,120
Speaker 24: know that makes Americans fans rankle to hear that. And

2802
02:29:23,240 --> 02:29:25,360
Speaker 24: you want to talk about Dosa Sara all you want,

2803
02:29:25,720 --> 02:29:30,480
Speaker 24: I'm sorry, man. The scoreboard's up there right now and

2804
02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:32,560
Speaker 24: it says the US is getting its butt kicked by

2805
02:29:32,640 --> 02:29:35,760
Speaker 24: Europeans once again on their own turf. We must add

2806
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:40,480
Speaker 24: Mexico happened to play at Soldier Field against Belgium again.

2807
02:29:40,600 --> 02:29:42,560
Speaker 24: One more friendly to go at the end of May.

2808
02:29:43,040 --> 02:29:44,960
Speaker 24: And who knows, maybe Polistic will get out of its

2809
02:29:44,959 --> 02:29:47,640
Speaker 24: scoring slump, or maybe a Senegal victory will be utterly

2810
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:50,840
Speaker 24: meaningless and this United States team will still struggle in

2811
02:29:50,920 --> 02:29:52,800
Speaker 24: its group, or maybe they'll get through an easy group

2812
02:29:53,080 --> 02:29:57,240
Speaker 24: and still get just beat around in a knockout game.

2813
02:29:57,640 --> 02:30:00,560
Speaker 24: But the eternal question, as everyone parachutes in the World Cup,

2814
02:30:00,560 --> 02:30:02,120
Speaker 24: will always be ken the United States to win the

2815
02:30:02,120 --> 02:30:05,280
Speaker 24: World Cup. My answer is definitively no, not now, not

2816
02:30:05,480 --> 02:30:07,920
Speaker 24: this year, never in a million years, can they win

2817
02:30:08,240 --> 02:30:08,920
Speaker 24: the World.

2818
02:30:08,720 --> 02:30:10,040
Speaker 1: Cup on US soil.

2819
02:30:10,160 --> 02:30:10,880
Speaker 15: They can't do it.

2820
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:13,360
Speaker 1: This team stinks, They stink.

2821
02:30:13,760 --> 02:30:15,480
Speaker 24: I've been trying to be nice, I've been trying to

2822
02:30:15,480 --> 02:30:17,400
Speaker 24: give them the benefit of doubt. But at this point

2823
02:30:17,800 --> 02:30:20,360
Speaker 24: it's a rap. I'm closing the blinds. I'm not watching

2824
02:30:20,440 --> 02:30:22,960
Speaker 24: this game anymore from them. Maybe the next generation of

2825
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:25,840
Speaker 24: American players will be the greatest generation we've seen, and

2826
02:30:25,879 --> 02:30:29,000
Speaker 24: maybe they'll actually be able to deliver against some European competition.

2827
02:30:29,240 --> 02:30:31,000
Speaker 24: But that's it for the world of soccer, Bernie. We'll

2828
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:32,480
Speaker 24: see you next time. We've got a lot to talk

2829
02:30:32,520 --> 02:30:34,640
Speaker 24: about on the mess that is Liverpool next time.

2830
02:30:34,680 --> 02:30:39,480
Speaker 2: Holy Boats. Yeah, hope Spring's eternal, but not so much. Unfortunately,

2831
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:42,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't that long ago. November twenty fifth, twenty twenty two,

2832
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:44,920
Speaker 2: during the group stage of the twenty twenty two feet

2833
02:30:44,959 --> 02:30:47,760
Speaker 2: for World Cup and Cutter or Katar or however you

2834
02:30:47,800 --> 02:30:51,360
Speaker 2: want to pronounce it, we're all geeked up their game

2835
02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:53,520
Speaker 2: against England and it ended up being in a zero

2836
02:30:53,640 --> 02:30:59,080
Speaker 2: zero tie, and people were like celebrating in the US

2837
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:06,119
Speaker 2: went nowhere, there's there's there's objective truth, and there's personal feelings.

2838
02:31:06,760 --> 02:31:08,879
Speaker 2: Don't get your personal feelings in a in a wrinkle

2839
02:31:08,959 --> 02:31:11,560
Speaker 2: on this the US. Really, that's soccer just not our

2840
02:31:11,600 --> 02:31:14,240
Speaker 2: game because we don't care. We just don't care. If

2841
02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:18,680
Speaker 2: we cared, well, I think you might have a different different.

2842
02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:20,480
Speaker 2: And I don't say that we don't. I don't mean

2843
02:31:20,480 --> 02:31:23,920
Speaker 2: that we don't care. It's that the action and the

2844
02:31:24,040 --> 02:31:27,280
Speaker 2: investment and your best athletes are going to any other

2845
02:31:27,360 --> 02:31:30,840
Speaker 2: sport but soccer. And until we start getting the Adrian

2846
02:31:30,879 --> 02:31:33,480
Speaker 2: Peterson's and the Bo Jackson's of the world that want

2847
02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:36,560
Speaker 2: to play soccer, then we're not. I don't think we're

2848
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:39,840
Speaker 2: going anywhere anytime soon, but well maybe hope does Spring Eternal.

2849
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:42,320
Speaker 2: We'll find out in June. The games that we played

2850
02:31:42,360 --> 02:31:45,280
Speaker 2: on our soil. Coming up, we wrap up the show

2851
02:31:45,560 --> 02:31:48,160
Speaker 2: and we look ahead to Monday night, Yukat and Michigan.

2852
02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:50,280
Speaker 2: I'll give you the keys to the game and some

2853
02:31:50,959 --> 02:31:54,760
Speaker 2: strategic sort of matchups to look out for. I'm Bernie Fratle.

2854
02:31:54,800 --> 02:31:57,320
Speaker 2: We're coming to line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2855
02:31:57,800 --> 02:31:59,760
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to Bernie Froddle.

2856
02:32:00,640 --> 02:32:02,560
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

2857
02:32:10,520 --> 02:32:12,920
Speaker 2: All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie

2858
02:32:12,920 --> 02:32:17,280
Speaker 2: Frauter Show. Wean'll thank my producers Mark and Brandon for

2859
02:32:17,480 --> 02:32:21,240
Speaker 2: all your efforts to around the dials, keeping us glued together,

2860
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:25,680
Speaker 2: hitting all the brakes, marks all the good stuff. Callers

2861
02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:31,520
Speaker 2: you need professional producers to do a radio show, especially

2862
02:32:31,520 --> 02:32:40,440
Speaker 2: the national radio show, appreciate all the efforts. Uh Monday's game,

2863
02:32:41,280 --> 02:32:43,879
Speaker 2: as you may have heard me say in my opening monologue,

2864
02:32:44,800 --> 02:32:48,520
Speaker 2: is it not just features a clash between the two

2865
02:32:49,640 --> 02:32:51,600
Speaker 2: top seeded teams. You got to you got a one

2866
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:54,680
Speaker 2: seed and the two seed going at it. It's more

2867
02:32:54,760 --> 02:33:00,320
Speaker 2: than that. There's history here. You've got Yukon looking for

2868
02:33:00,440 --> 02:33:04,800
Speaker 2: their third national championship in four years. They're seventh since

2869
02:33:04,920 --> 02:33:08,560
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. Meanwhile, a single a Big Ten team

2870
02:33:08,920 --> 02:33:14,360
Speaker 2: hasn't won the NCAA championship in college basketball since two

2871
02:33:14,400 --> 02:33:18,520
Speaker 2: thousand when Tom Izzo in Michigan State beat Florida and

2872
02:33:19,560 --> 02:33:24,280
Speaker 2: that team with Teddy Dupe and Adonis Aslom and Mike Miller,

2873
02:33:24,320 --> 02:33:28,160
Speaker 2: et cetera. So you've got a team with Danny Hurley,

2874
02:33:29,200 --> 02:33:32,680
Speaker 2: who's the single team that's won going for their sabbath.

2875
02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:36,720
Speaker 2: They've won six in a time. An entire conference, maybe

2876
02:33:36,959 --> 02:33:40,560
Speaker 2: maybe the best basketball conference in the country, is looking

2877
02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:45,280
Speaker 2: for their first since two thousand. So if you take

2878
02:33:45,320 --> 02:33:48,600
Speaker 2: a look at this game, Michigan enters as a seven

2879
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:53,520
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite according to bet MGM, and

2880
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:58,880
Speaker 2: based on that line, they've got a seventy three percent

2881
02:33:58,959 --> 02:34:02,000
Speaker 2: chance to win. But if you don't think this Yukon

2882
02:34:02,120 --> 02:34:07,680
Speaker 2: team can't win this game, I beg to differ. I

2883
02:34:07,760 --> 02:34:12,200
Speaker 2: beg to differ. Let's start with some key matchups. You've

2884
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:15,720
Speaker 2: got a couple of a battle of the giants. Terris

2885
02:34:15,800 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 2: Reid junior for Yukon, who ironically is a transfer from Michigan.

2886
02:34:21,280 --> 02:34:25,360
Speaker 2: He started as a Michigan guy. He's been maybe the

2887
02:34:25,400 --> 02:34:28,480
Speaker 2: tournament's most dominant force on the inside, but he's going

2888
02:34:28,560 --> 02:34:31,440
Speaker 2: up against an interior with that Amra who's seven to

2889
02:34:31,560 --> 02:34:36,360
Speaker 2: three Morris Johnson Junior six'. Nine they may try to

2890
02:34:36,440 --> 02:34:39,680
Speaker 2: Wear Terris reid. Out he's averaging twenty two points a

2891
02:34:39,720 --> 02:34:44,039
Speaker 2: game and fourteen rebounds in the. Tournament but where Terrorist

2892
02:34:44,080 --> 02:34:49,760
Speaker 2: reid has really been sensational is second chance. Opportunities it's

2893
02:34:49,760 --> 02:34:53,800
Speaker 2: getting almost six offensive rebounds per. Game that's. Huge Can

2894
02:34:53,879 --> 02:34:59,600
Speaker 2: michigan neutralize? HIM i would Say Morris, johnson who's also

2895
02:34:59,640 --> 02:35:02,279
Speaker 2: a strong player on his own, Right maybe he Engages.

2896
02:35:02,360 --> 02:35:05,920
Speaker 2: Reid marri swoops in as a help side defender to

2897
02:35:06,040 --> 02:35:08,720
Speaker 2: try to block a. Shot we'll. See it's all, theoretically

2898
02:35:09,160 --> 02:35:14,800
Speaker 2: but here's where the contrast in styles really REALLY i

2899
02:35:14,920 --> 02:35:19,879
Speaker 2: think raises an. Eyebrow michigan likes to play. Fast they're

2900
02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:21,720
Speaker 2: the only team in the history of the tournament that

2901
02:35:21,800 --> 02:35:24,400
Speaker 2: scored ninety points to each of their first five. Games

2902
02:35:25,240 --> 02:35:30,200
Speaker 2: and it's not fair that the last impression that folks

2903
02:35:30,240 --> 02:35:33,320
Speaker 2: are going to have Of arizona is the fact that

2904
02:35:33,400 --> 02:35:36,119
Speaker 2: they were trailing by thirty and they never were really

2905
02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:40,600
Speaker 2: in the game and they got ridden like a. Stickhorse

2906
02:35:40,720 --> 02:35:42,720
Speaker 2: arizona was a great, team and they had a great.

2907
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:47,720
Speaker 2: Season michigan got, him but earlier in the, Year wisconsin Got.

2908
02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:52,040
Speaker 2: Michigan so to produe and so Did Duke and how

2909
02:35:52,080 --> 02:35:55,560
Speaker 2: did they do? That the commonalty in all three Of

2910
02:35:55,640 --> 02:35:58,640
Speaker 2: michigan's losses this season occurring games where they played. It

2911
02:35:59,560 --> 02:36:01,680
Speaker 2: they played game where they had sixty three or fewer.

2912
02:36:01,760 --> 02:36:05,520
Speaker 2: Possessions The michigan averages about seventy one seventy two possessions a,

2913
02:36:05,560 --> 02:36:07,800
Speaker 2: Game so if you allowed them eight or nine below their,

2914
02:36:07,800 --> 02:36:11,760
Speaker 2: average If yukon can force a slow, pace they significantly

2915
02:36:11,800 --> 02:36:15,720
Speaker 2: improve their odds of an, upset which frankly is what

2916
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:17,959
Speaker 2: they're probably going to. Do and this is just how

2917
02:36:18,440 --> 02:36:21,840
Speaker 2: this is not some you, know new fangle. Strategy Dan

2918
02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:26,320
Speaker 2: hurley prefers to deliver at half court Slugfest. Yukon they

2919
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:29,000
Speaker 2: rank three hundred and nineteenth in temple out of three

2920
02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:31,959
Speaker 2: hundred and Thirty Division one. Teams michigan ranks twenty. Second

2921
02:36:32,200 --> 02:36:36,360
Speaker 2: you say styles make, Fights, well those two styles are

2922
02:36:36,440 --> 02:36:39,720
Speaker 2: going to make this fight very. Interesting one of the

2923
02:36:39,760 --> 02:36:43,160
Speaker 2: other things we have to watch For. Michigan they're stopped

2924
02:36:43,160 --> 02:36:46,560
Speaker 2: for their star, forward their top transfer the Excel lendeborg

2925
02:36:47,480 --> 02:36:50,200
Speaker 2: to say he's hobbled as an. Understatement he had some

2926
02:36:50,400 --> 02:36:54,000
Speaker 2: sort of knee and ankle, injury left the, game came

2927
02:36:54,080 --> 02:36:56,520
Speaker 2: back in hit some. Threes how's he going to feel

2928
02:36:56,520 --> 02:37:00,720
Speaker 2: when he wakes Up sunday Or. Monday you don't. Know

2929
02:37:01,280 --> 02:37:04,400
Speaker 2: ALL i know is walking off the. Floor he was

2930
02:37:04,480 --> 02:37:07,280
Speaker 2: doing That Fred sandford walk and he didn't look. Good

2931
02:37:07,879 --> 02:37:11,520
Speaker 2: i'm sure he's gonna Play. Monday they're gonna march him out.

2932
02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:15,320
Speaker 2: There but does it limit his, Mobility, yes it's good

2933
02:37:15,320 --> 02:37:18,199
Speaker 2: to limit it his. Mobility how might that Impact michigan's

2934
02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:22,160
Speaker 2: defensive versatility and their ability to score in, transition Which

2935
02:37:22,240 --> 02:37:27,040
Speaker 2: michigan is really good is really good. At, plus let's

2936
02:37:27,080 --> 02:37:29,400
Speaker 2: not forget That lindenborg leads a team he's averaging just

2937
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:32,359
Speaker 2: under sixteen points a, game and he's a critical. Playmaker

2938
02:37:32,920 --> 02:37:34,800
Speaker 2: he plays the forward position as well as you can

2939
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:37,320
Speaker 2: play it in college, basketball and he's a future, pro

2940
02:37:37,560 --> 02:37:38,720
Speaker 2: no two ways about.

2941
02:37:38,720 --> 02:37:38,760
Speaker 19: It.

2942
02:37:39,640 --> 02:37:42,480
Speaker 2: Now both teams can shoot from the. Outside michigan is

2943
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:47,040
Speaker 2: more so Than both teams are very defensively. Oriented but

2944
02:37:47,360 --> 02:37:50,760
Speaker 2: it might come down to which team is you got

2945
02:37:50,800 --> 02:37:58,959
Speaker 2: the streaky your shooter that. Night think about. It michigan

2946
02:37:59,160 --> 02:38:02,320
Speaker 2: averages their for the. Season they're averaging eighty seven points a.

2947
02:38:02,400 --> 02:38:06,400
Speaker 2: Game that's largely because of their. Pace yukon is averaging seventy,

2948
02:38:06,440 --> 02:38:09,120
Speaker 2: seven largely because of their. Pace And yukon only gives

2949
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:13,400
Speaker 2: up sixty. Five michigan gives up sixty. NINE i don't

2950
02:38:13,440 --> 02:38:17,039
Speaker 2: know how this, correlates if it. Does this Is michigan's

2951
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:21,600
Speaker 2: eighth trip to the. Finals the only time they won

2952
02:38:21,680 --> 02:38:24,720
Speaker 2: one was in nineteen eighty nine when they BEAT. Pj

2953
02:38:24,840 --> 02:38:27,640
Speaker 2: carlssimo And Seaton. Hall you remember that's the Year Steve

2954
02:38:27,680 --> 02:38:31,520
Speaker 2: fischer took Over. Bosham beckler, SAID i want A michigan

2955
02:38:31,600 --> 02:38:37,160
Speaker 2: man Coaching, michigan and well the rest is. History, Okay

2956
02:38:38,520 --> 02:38:41,680
Speaker 2: so how Does yukon? Win maybe they got the best

2957
02:38:41,720 --> 02:38:44,240
Speaker 2: coaching staff In. AMERICA i mean they got a. Coach

2958
02:38:44,280 --> 02:38:46,840
Speaker 2: he turned down seventy million to go to The. Lakers

2959
02:38:47,080 --> 02:38:50,320
Speaker 2: you Got Alex. Carabon he's Been hurley's rock the entire.

2960
02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:52,280
Speaker 2: Time he was a freshman starter on the twenty twenty

2961
02:38:52,320 --> 02:38:55,080
Speaker 2: three national champions and by the, Way michigan's won six

2962
02:38:55,160 --> 02:38:58,160
Speaker 2: in those final, Games yukon six to. Zero they've won

2963
02:38:58,200 --> 02:39:02,199
Speaker 2: six championships since nineteen ninety nine With Jim, Calhoun Kevin

2964
02:39:02,280 --> 02:39:06,160
Speaker 2: ollie and Now Dan. Hurley Terris reid's been the best.

2965
02:39:06,200 --> 02:39:09,360
Speaker 2: Player the truth of the matter Is yukon sets up

2966
02:39:09,400 --> 02:39:11,720
Speaker 2: a maze the. Screens they have a big. Lineup they

2967
02:39:11,800 --> 02:39:14,760
Speaker 2: hold their opponents to thirty percent shooting from three point

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02:39:14,840 --> 02:39:17,720
Speaker 2: line all. Year if The wolverines are cold from deep

2969
02:39:17,760 --> 02:39:21,440
Speaker 2: and the game is close, LATE i Expect curly could

2970
02:39:22,040 --> 02:39:27,080
Speaker 2: work as late. Magic, michigan, though they are a chance

2971
02:39:27,160 --> 02:39:30,120
Speaker 2: to be an all time great college. Team they Beat

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02:39:30,160 --> 02:39:33,600
Speaker 2: San Diego state by, Forty gonzaga by, Forty auburn by.

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02:39:33,680 --> 02:39:36,959
Speaker 2: Thirty they've won multiple games by thirty points this, year

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02:39:37,240 --> 02:39:42,440
Speaker 2: games by, forty and they have average ninety points in the.

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02:39:42,560 --> 02:39:47,199
Speaker 2: PLAYOFFS i have a hard time Seeing michigan getting Beat Monday.

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02:39:47,280 --> 02:39:50,000
Speaker 2: Night but there's no way in Hell i'm laying in

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02:39:50,120 --> 02:39:53,800
Speaker 2: the seven and a half. Points michigan's transition game is

2978
02:39:53,920 --> 02:39:57,200
Speaker 2: so hard to, Stop Eliot condo's passing vision is second to,

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02:39:57,320 --> 02:39:59,600
Speaker 2: none and even a Hobbed lennenborg look pretty good in

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02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:02,080
Speaker 2: the second and. Half it just feels like it might

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02:40:02,160 --> 02:40:05,760
Speaker 2: Be michigan's. Year it just. Does But i'm not laying

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02:40:05,800 --> 02:40:09,200
Speaker 2: the seven and a half, Points so take that and

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02:40:09,320 --> 02:40:11,680
Speaker 2: do with it what you. Will it should be an

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02:40:11,720 --> 02:40:14,640
Speaker 2: epic Matchup Saturday night with history on the line either.

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02:40:15,040 --> 02:40:18,440
Speaker 2: Way no matter who wins this, game it's gonna do

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02:40:18,480 --> 02:40:21,640
Speaker 2: it for The Bernie Fratto. Show stay tuned up next

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02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:25,400
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