WEBVTT - Top Gangster Rap Album's Ever 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.639 Jiah. You know what it is right now, you tune 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.080 in to The American Chronicles, the new podcast where my 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.160 boy still and Soaring Baker. You got your boy big 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:15.680 Oho right here. What's cracking fellas man on this episode. Man, 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.360 we gonna get stuff kicked off. And we kind of 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.040 had a little bit of controversy already, you know what 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.400 I'm saying. But Big Old to saying, we're gonna keep 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.239 a gangster. So that's what we're gonna do. We will 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.160 keep a gangster exactly. We're gonna do what we gotta do. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.400 You know, new podcast. You know we're gonna try to 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.040 bring all kind of elements to the table. You know, 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.360 I know people you know wondering about the Gangster Chronicles. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.080 You know, uh, we're still on that, you know, shout 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.280 out to my boy James. We still got that rolling. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.400 But we want to bring something different to the table. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.000 You know, the whole wide world of spectrum. You know, 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.360 not just about the Street Tales or whatever, but you 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.840 know interest that you know different people might want to have, 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.080 you know, as far as you know the Street Tales music, 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.920 you know, move vs. Uh, all types of genres here. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.080 You know what I'm saying, so and bringing you know, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.919 our boys soaring Baker Man journalistic extraordinary. Yes, yes, I'm 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.199 glad to be here man author, I know eight since 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.560 the nineties and still know from I guess close to 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.760 a decade now. So I'm glad to be part of 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.480 the team. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. Man. You 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.280 know one thing we was gonna talk about, and I 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.119 don't think it's a definitive answer to this, we said 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.520 we're gonna do the top three gainst the rap albums 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.479 of all time, Street albums of all time. That's gonna 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.560 be hard, bro. I think it's making five. We could 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.200 go to fire, you can get you canna do your 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.040 top five or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Uh, 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.880 And this is like, you know, this is our personal opinions. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.880 So you know it might be something different that you 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.800 might see, but this is coming from the spectrum of 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.760 what we have experienced over these decades of being involved 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.480 in hip hop and music, and so we just want 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.960 to get it. Uh, you know our outlook. Everybody puts 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.960 up their top five, top ten's, top fifties, whatever. You know, 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.680 some people might be on there that you might not like. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.400 Some people might you know, So this is just our 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.079 general intake of what we feel is, are you know, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.840 uh addition to that you feel me? Yeah? For sure? 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.720 So who gonna kick it off first? Who gonna kick 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.799 off the top five? One? You go? Still ship man, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.280 y'all just put me on the hot seat, right it seat. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.760 You just met to tell what you what you think 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.560 your preference from when the day you started listening to 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.520 hip hop or gangster music or whatever. We'll keep it 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.000 in that, and then you started listening to the street music. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.400 You know, what do you feel up to? Now? Is 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:47.320 your top five in street related tales? All right, here 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:51.600 we go, And this is in no particular order. I 0:02:51.880 --> 0:03:00.480 cube America's most wanted music to drive by those boys 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:06.640 gripping on another level, funck man, This is are iced 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:15.200 T six's Ryan Pays, I gotta land see. This is 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:20.200 fucking tough man. This is fucking tough man. M scar 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.080 Face And this is what I'm had the problem because 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:24.640 I already got to get a boys in there, but 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.840 don got scar Face in there too for Last of 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:36.760 a Dying Breeze. Yeah, and I and I explained each 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.080 one of my picks. If if I can I think 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.880 for me with America's most wanted for where we use 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.680 at in the country at the time, because that was 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.280 when conscious rap was real big. You know, everybody was 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.960 walking around with the medallions on and everything. You remember, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.680 you'll remember that era right where everybody's walking around with 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.840 the American you know, but the African medallions on everything 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.080 like that. I think you bought that same energy. It 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.520 was with a twist. It was like from a hood perspective. Yeah, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:09.240 I think two men growing up in Maryland, Yes, But 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.560 I think for us one of the biggest things I 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.400 remember me and my friends talking about was we all 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.680 knew all the rappers in the n w A were 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.719 phenomenal artists, but we didn't understand that Cube was that good. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.320 So for us, for us, it was the streets talking 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.360 of like, yo, do you hear Ice Cube and he's like, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.520 fuck you Ice Cube. We were like what does he say? 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.640 Like this is crazy and we had no idea that 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.960 he was that good because Rand killed Straight Compton, you know, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.240 Dre was incredible on Straight Compton. They brought so much 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.239 too easy does it and w ain't Aposse. It wasn't 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.640 just because of Cube, it was all of them. So 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:52.560 we just didn't for us. We didn't understand that significance 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.000 in Maryland, and I just I'll never forget you know, 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.040 the brother you love to hate kicking off the album, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.960 and my boy, one of my boys, just kept being like, 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.000 I can't believe he said cue because we didn't know 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.920 the inner workings and why he left. We just do 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:08.760 he left and he had beef, but we didn't know 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.960 what it was. And I was just mind blowing to 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.600 all of us. Everyone that listened to the album loved it. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.840 We were just thrown off. Man. It was crazy and 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:20.960 that's what I'm saying, That's what it was with me. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.040 And plus he was fresh off the heels, like you said, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:29.040 of leaving n w A yeah, and it was like 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.880 you wanted to see what he was gonna say and 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.960 what it was. And I just remember riding down the 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.320 street and Cleveland listening to that whole album. Same thing 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.880 with Music to drive By. Music to Drive By just 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.360 really just took me to a different place. And I 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.919 think because Eight's background sonically was so different, you know, 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.000 from the West Coast during that time, he was hearing 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.159 a lot of fun you feel what I'm saying. And 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.520 I always like to tell people that aid is almost 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:58.280 like the Isaac Hayes against the Wrap to me, yeah, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.360 you feel what I'm saying, he's the I said, he 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.040 it's against the rep And it was kind of just 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.760 like it didn't. That's when it was like with me 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.000 because if I'm correct me if I'm wrong, that was 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:08.919 the Compass Most Wanted the album. It wasn't an m 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.760 C eight album, but eight was the only dude on 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:16.479 their repping, and that was Scarface Starface and it was 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.440 kind of like, Okay, where are the other dudes? That 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:23.560 is that his name to Compass Most Wanted? Well, you know, um, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.960 well we started back you know, see if w it 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:35.120 was me Chill you know, uh cat name and um 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.200 you just do a little you know, trying to do 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.880 a little demo tape. You know, I was whatever. But 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.160 as they went on, um, you know, Chill you know 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.560 had the kind of couple runnings you know with the 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.080 with the boys. Um, so he had to go do 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:56.039 some time. That's for um. I just continued on instead 0:06:56.080 --> 0:07:01.800 of going a solo artist at the time, I just 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.760 kept on with the Counten's Most Wanted name, even though 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.640 it was just me Rhynman. On the next three projects, 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:14.400 I just kept to seem w name uh, and it 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.480 wasn't up until I got ready to do we come strapped. 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.840 It's when Stoney decided to have me just go it 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:28.040 as a solo artist instead of CMW. Thus is how 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.920 you got m C a feature in the concertence most 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:36.120 Wanted on my first solo project. So that's how that happened. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.840 But I just felt, you know, in the beginning, I 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.760 didn't feel like I should go to just MC eight. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.080 You get me. We had already had a platform for 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.480 a comptence most Wanted because of the first album and 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.640 one time gal for them upping that record, you know, 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.400 selling about two hundred and fifty thousand companies back in 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:03.120 fucking n So we just stuck with it. You fail me, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.760 yeah for sure. And it was a classic album because 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.560 eight albums always reminded me of movies and did a 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.160 lot of albums during that time period. They just had 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.720 this really just like cinematic field where you would turn 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.600 stuff over from the beginning and you wouldn't stop to 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.360 the end. It wasn't no skipping, no tracks. You was 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.000 just kind of listened to it. It It was like watching 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.000 the movie kind of and it was cool, you know 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.600 what I'm saying it was just real dope, you know 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.600 what I'm saying. Hey, But but Music to Drive By 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.079 and straight well really all three conference most one of 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.240 the albums of the era. To steal his point, there's 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.920 no skips. And that's one of the things I always 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.160 go back and forth between if I like straight checking them, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:48.520 more Music to drive By more, but um, the the 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:53.840 force and the menace of the production, especially on Music 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.640 to Drive By, it's just phenomenal, And I just think 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.880 straight checking them because I don't dance and some of 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:04.520 the other songs that a little more. Always I was always, 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:09.160 you know, I tried to be a little differently, you know. Um, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.000 that's why I did songs like I Don't Dance or 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:17.120 you know, can I Kill It? Or you know, just 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:22.000 songs that were different than the usual, you know, right, 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:26.679 songs that were different than the usual. Hey man, you know, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:32.280 hood niggas, pistols, police, dope selling, you know. So, I 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.360 you know, I was just an I wanted to be 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.760 an artist first, even though from Compton in the neighborhood 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.720 and all of that, Um, I want to be an 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.960 artist or rapper first. So I felt, you know, having 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.560 songs like the Ducks sick, I give up nothing, give 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.640 it up. Uh, you know, final chapter, you get me 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.880 songs like that, uh, straight checking them. I don't dance, uh, 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.760 you know, songs that that third of way from just 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:07.400 the typical Hey low wider Dayton's pistol and exactly. So, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.480 you know, I always try to be different. It's straight 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.400 away from what everybody else was doing as far as 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.079 thanks to Rap was concerned. You know, I think that's 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.400 why you remain one of the best artists of all 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.240 time from the genre there is. It is what it 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.400 is man, you know, so and I never could play 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.880 whatever it is up or down. You know. It's just, 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.080 you know, I felt like I've done a a sort 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.600 of contribution to hip hop as far as the West 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.559 Coast is concerned, and my relationships that I've had with 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.520 niggas on the East Coast, you know, puts me in 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.200 the position to where I'm still you know, the garner 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.520 a little respect from dudes, you know, and said that's 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.439 much appreciated. Yeah, speaking of the East Coast, one thing 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.520 I did want to bring up was, even though this 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:57.000 is definitely not a gangster rap album, I just remember 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.000 this was right around that's time. I was starting to 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.640 really get into rap as a young young man or 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.240 young youth as the wild would say. But the Run DMC, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.400 the first album the Streets of our area of Maryland 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.680 d C. That that album, it's self titled album that 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.520 had everything on fire Man because you had how this crew, 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.280 you had Sucker MCS. You know, it was like that 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.280 album to me as I was starting to understand rap 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.120 and get into it, really, I started saying, like, wait 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.080 a minute, this is what people are feeling in a 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.319 different way than I think what I was starting to 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.840 understand about people like Curtis Blow and loved his songs, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.160 but they felt Run d m C in a different 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.640 way to me, uh what I was seeing. And that 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.320 was the first one that I remember as I looked 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.120 back that had that kind of different element and different 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.160 field because Sucker m sees was so hard and so 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.560 stripped down and so angry. You know, that element, I 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.840 guess you could say that was on street Ship. You 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:08.040 didn't me because you said they had wraps like Sucker MCS. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:14.160 They had shipped like hard Times and ship Man, come 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.640 on man, you know, and then they would go to 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.240 songs like rock Box or or you know, ship like that. 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:25.520 But they was our first you know, element of street too, 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.520 because you know that Motherfucker's been had a flashy outfits 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.640 that Motherfucker's was used to niggas was in jeans and 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.560 fucking you know, pimp chaps and motherfucking leather coats and ship. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.800 They represented the block and the hood and ship. You know, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.160 you might have didn't hear tales of an actual yeah 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:48.000 HOMEI got you know, the homie wind popto was drug selling, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.160 but they had a way of describing hood tales and 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.319 shipped to niggers coming from that era, you know what 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.400 I'm saying, So I guess you could say that too. Yeah, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.000 hard times and it's like that in particular off that album. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.080 Those two were the quote like eight saying. They weren't like, oh, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.600 I'm on the block slanging or doing whatever, but they 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.920 were also like talking about things in a way we 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.160 saw maybe with the message and different things that had 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:18.640 come out before it, but this was much more like sonically, especially, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.560 I think it matched the force and the energy and 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.760 kind of the anger at times that Run and DMC had, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.640 But the beats were so hard and so stripped down 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.240 that it was just like you know, you could feel 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.440 when they said hard times where it's like that, you know, 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.240 that's just the way exactly. I always kind of looked 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.600 at that. It's like the message kind of they took 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.680 the chorus of the message and kind of played off 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.439 it because it's like a jungle. Sometimes it's like that, 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.880 and that's the way it is exactly they described in 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:53.040 the term still can you hear this snoring in the background, 0:13:54.960 --> 0:14:00.240 I'm just saying, can you pick? Are you hearing it? Ah? 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:05.200 Because this this nigga loud is hell over here? Who 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:13.840 is it? Oh? Man? He's knocked the funk out? I 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.160 can't you know what I did here? A little something 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:20.840 the background snoring like a grown ass motherfucking man who 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.320 had had like fifteen shots last night or some liquor, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.200 and he just laid up shut off the eighth store 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.680 over there over the front the weed he probably got 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:37.760 stop stopping that nigga told out album wake up? Hey, 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:46.240 So my um, you want to finish describing your picks? Still? Yeah, 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.480 let me go back because I'm going to kind of playoffs. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.760 So it's Run DMC. Is the first Run DMC album? 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.480 One of your picks? So yeah, that would be one 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.400 of mine. Because mine I have being that I'm not 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:01.040 from l A. And being that I also I have 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:05.920 different entry points too, because what I was around and 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.440 what I saw, like for instance, America's Most Wanted of 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.200 course is one of the best albums of all time 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.320 as his music to drive by, But to me they 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.120 meant a lot. But to what was going on around 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.240 me in Maryland when I would go or be in 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.040 Baltimore or be in d C. Neither one of those 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:26.000 two albums like are gonna say what my five would 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.720 be at least four when I was a kid, because 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.920 to me, part of the reason why I think I 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.320 had my careers because I could feel what eight was 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.160 saying in such a way that the first time I 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.720 ever met Snoop back in like ninety whenever I met Snoop, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.280 he was like, I was asking about King T and 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:44.880 Above the Law. He's like, oh, what part of l 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.640 A are you from. I was like, I'm not from 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:48.800 l A. I'm from Maryland, man, And he was blown 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.080 away that to me, that music meant so much to 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.040 me that I was asking him, Oh, Snoop, did this 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.120 influence you or did you do this or do because 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.480 of Above the Law or because of King T. But 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.920 that's how I felt the music. But what I'm talking 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.200 about the street effect, I'm gonna talk about more what 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.680 I saw or my friends, or the cities. When I 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.560 would go in the Baltimore, I go into d C. 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.480 What I would see or here playing out of cars 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.560 when I go to play basketball, when we were being 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.880 a tournament or something. You know. Well, that's why these 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.160 lists are always subjective versus being objective, because it's just 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.520 our own personal opinions and what we feel. And it's like, 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.160 you know, you named run DMC. I'm Richie from Cleveland, 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.960 but I've been out in California since eighty seven. So 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.960 my next pick, which was the Ghetto Boys gripping on 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:42.400 another level that very much qualifies as against the rap 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.520 album because there was three dudes from Houston, Texas talking ship. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.960 First of all, it was a fucking I remember the 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.480 original Ghetto Boys when it was Um Prince, Johnny C 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.920 and m Ready Red. So we went from having the 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.720 car free records to where when they brought Willie d 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.280 N and Scarface went from being DJ Action the Scarface, 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.800 there was just some rapping motherfucker's and they was all 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.359 so different. Willie deep was like the big country dude. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.280 There was like a city dude to talk a bunch 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.040 of ships. There was really what people's ass in the streets. 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.480 And you heard about these fights that he made got 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.520 in because I heard about him with somebody's ass from 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.120 east side of Cleveland before the end store. Well he's 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.240 a he's a real boxer though too. On top of 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.879 all that, yeah, yeah, we all got swabbos, you know, 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.399 so we all got squabbles. And then it was just 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.399 the misied man. And then it was the ship they 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.320 was talking about like it was almost kind of like 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.679 they were part gangster rap, part horror Corgan's they were 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.240 talking about, you know, slicing women up. Like those records 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.879 couldn't have got made today and instinctive as area we're 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.520 here right now, those records would have been banned for sure, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.960 a whole lot of them. And so that's why I 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.200 picked the Ghetto Boys. I think they brought something new. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.719 It was like a new experience, right and again another 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.479 visual group because if you noticed during that time period, 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.639 a lot of songs didn't have looks on them. It 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.280 would be just kind of the instrumental ride for about 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.840 twenty thirty seconds you know what I mean, almost to 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.320 give your brain kind of trying to reflect on the 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.040 ship you just heard for the past minute, and it 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:15.600 was just real visual. Now my other one Ice Tea 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.560 was like my introduction to West Coast rap. I remember 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.439 when I first heard six in the Morning. I was 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.960 in the projects in Cleveland, the project Homeboy. You know, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:27.880 you got the homie in the hood that knows every 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.240 rap from everywhere. He got every tape of ells, he 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.320 got instants burned outside his crib. He just know everything 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.320 and helps to know about hip hop, and he always 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.160 got weeds. So I went over to Homie Ice Mike. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.679 Shout out to Homie Ice Mike. I went over to 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.760 his crib, and I remember everybody was standing around like 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.159 we was all kids too, man, And we heard the 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.560 poem that Ice t had at the beginning of the song, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.120 the child was born in the East, one day into 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.480 the West. He moved and all that ship and he 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.880 had the music in the background. Then when a magnificent 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:01.919 rhyme around the eel be designer if they ask you 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.119 if from death, it was just so it was like, God, 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.920 damn this ship as hard as a motherfucker. And that's 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.760 when they was kind of like doing it pit rock 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.480 guitars over the eight away drums and all that ship. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.400 And then when six in the morning came me and 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.479 he told this story. It was so motherfucking just like 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.760 it was so visual. And that was around the time 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.239 the movie Colors that came out and all that, and 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.200 I was going to the West Coast that year. That's 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.639 when I was coming up to play football, and so 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.919 all the homies kept telling me, man, you sure you 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:32.919 want to be out there with them crips, them crypts 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.440 is real dangerous. Man. I didn't know what the funding 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.520 crip war blood was. So when I came out here, 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.720 I'm the lone beach. I had a red Ohio state 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.359 sweat shirt on and I was walking to the burger spot. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.920 There was a dude in the wheelchair and another Summonian 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.000 dude named Joker pulled up on me that was like, Cuz, 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.640 what did you were you from? Cuz? And I said Ohio. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.800 They said, oh, you're trying to be funny to do 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.680 in the wheelchair like wrapped the strip, like the strip 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.359 up under the blanket in his lap. And I was like, man, no, 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.960 I'm from Ohio. And they started laughing, they said, because 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.480 really from Ohio, they deliver see your driver's license, because 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.880 and I pulled out my I d right to see 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.640 it Ohio, so I gotta pass right and start hanging 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.639 out with them due. So that's when I started getting 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.719 to understanding of what the Crypts and the Blufs was. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:28.960 But Ice gave a very very visual reputation representation of 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:34.840 what Los Angeles, California was at that time. Yeah, I 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.280 got the I got the privilege of being able to 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.159 see eight and Iced Tea perform earlier this year, and 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.199 I was like eight. I was like, I gotta sit 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.240 in the crowd this time because I haven't seen I 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.760 was like, i'ven't seen iceed Tea performing in person in 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:50.879 a long time. So I was like, I gotta be 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.680 in the crowd because it's such a different experience from 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.120 being on the side of the stage of backstage. And 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:58.520 thanks for the shout out again on that eight because 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.000 because I was for a long way eight, I was 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:02.880 with fishing with Laman and my wife and we were 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:06.359 like eight sauce rapping. But I was like, man, but Ice, 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.879 I think Iced Tea really as time goes on, because 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:15.320 he's such a prominent actor. People forget and Pitchman for 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:19.399 doing all his commercials, but they forget what he gave 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.679 the Rat and what he still gives the Rat. And 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.879 I think that's one of the biggest travesties. So I 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.240 think it's important Steal that you're bringing that up because 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.520 you know Ryan Pay's power. You know ice Burg all 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:35.240 these albums o G. They're phenomenal and his stories. The 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.639 great thing about to me, the best gangster rap is 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.240 something that eight did, something that iceed T did, schooly 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.120 D did it too. But all the great artists, ice Cube, 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.440 like we talked about earlier, they showed you to the 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.640 cons of the game too. It wasn't just like, oh 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.440 I'm the man, I'm getting all this stuff. It was 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.840 about getting locked up. It was about their problems and 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.600 how people the collateral damage that comes with the life. 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.439 And Iced Tea, I think was one of the best 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.399 and first people to do that on such a big scale. 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.640 And Ron Pays. You know, it's definitely wonder them because 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.440 he's running from the police. First thing, police at my door, 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.600 so we already know that's a second line. Yeah, for Shure, 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:19.560 and you know, going back to eight, it was so 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:24.080 hard for me not to put We come strapped in there. 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.239 You feel what I mean? And it was like, you know, 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:32.040 you're trying to do this stuff is you? It's all subjective, 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:33.760 but you want to be as a you don't want 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.399 to miss nothing. You feel what I'm saying that. They 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.119 almost feel like a travesty not to include that album 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.400 because he's another one that gave you the pitfalls eight 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.160 don't been burned on songs. It ain't just been about 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.280 him getting shot. He's been that. Gonna cut STDs on songs, 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.320 don't cut std fun with the herd rad bitch of 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:58.040 this ship. He don't got jack before. He don't. You don't, 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:04.000 you don't got arrested. My tails are. I just try 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:07.280 to tell a motherfucker like you know, a lot of niggas, 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:11.480 you know, want to be the victorious. You know, I 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:15.520 sold a hundred thousand birds and I'm bawling, and you 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.159 know I'm there or I'm not. I've always liked the 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.160 educator nigga on the pitfalls of being in the neighborhood 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.640 because everything is not glorious. You get me. Yeah, there's 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:29.280 some niggas who's ball and ship, but they eventually get popped, 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:34.000 sent up, go to the beds, get jack, come invaded, killed, whatever. 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.360 So I just always wanted to tell niggas the pitfalls 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.359 of being from the neighborhood. Yeah, we loved it, you 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.840 get me. Wasn't trade it for nothing. You give me. 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.480 If I had to go back and do it all 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.879 over again, nigga still do it all over again, ragging 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.399 the back pockets, strapping the motherfucking under the seat, getting 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:58.040 jacked by the police every day. But you know, there 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:02.040 was always a motherfucking there was always an insight to it, 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.000 you nit me, because I always went to jail, or 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.320 always got busted with a gun in my car, or 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:13.760 got shot at it or you really you didnt me. 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:18.080 So even though it was glorious to a nigga, we 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:21.200 still had to, you know, go through those pitfalls of 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.800 being from the neighborhood. And that's what I wanted to 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.280 tell in my chails. I didn't just wanted to glorify. 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:30.200 Everybody had low riders and banging, and we were the 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.640 strong power and ruthy win. Don't tell a nigga like, yeah, 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.240 the homie went to jail for life, or the homie 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.840 got chilled, or hey, I got a question for you 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.679 on that exact point, because I noticed from listening to 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:46.199 your music since the beginning, since the Comptent compilation. But 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:50.439 my question is, why do you think because you, in 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.679 particular and the other great artists we mentioned have done that, 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.320 why do you think so many people don't acknowledge that 0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:00.439 or pay attention to it when they talk about Comptence 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.720 most wanted the gangster rap that it's always so much 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.520 of the glorifying or the negativity. They don't look at 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.640 the fact that no MC is telling you all these 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.680 bad things that happened to him, that he's seen bad happen, 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.240 Like why do they not? Because to me I always 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:19.560 saw that. I always was like whoa, I guess um 0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.840 because I just fell into that motherfucking category of being 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.440 a gangster net from Compton. You get me And to 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:32.600 others who were against that, um you, they never want 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.480 to recognize you know, like you always see the bad. 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.040 You will never see a motherfucker give back to the 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.960 neighborhood or when they go out and by turkeys or 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:46.000 do little ship for the schools or whatever. Um I was. 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.480 It was just the category of being against the rapper 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.720 and Compton's most wanted And I think that's what had 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.000 a lot of effect on it. When you heard the 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.879 word Compton and you looked at the videos and you 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.520 saw them, you know, the imagery and magazines or whatever. 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:05.399 A lot of people didn't get that. Um. They just 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.600 saw you know, niggas and khaki suits with with raiders 0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:14.280 caps on and talking about Compton and drive by killings 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.760 and Ship. But they never wanted to analyze that. A 0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:22.080 lot of the Ship that I told was the pitfalls 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.399 of it. You get me, You you sucked with a 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.760 hood rack, you got burnt. Uh, you did a drive by, 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:34.440 You go to prison, You get me. Uh. Niggas come 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:39.600 through and catch you slipping, you die, you get me? Uh. 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.159 That was my tails. It wasn't like nigga. We was 0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.120 at the park today having a ball and the picnic 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.960 and everybody was barbecuing and drinking forties and Ship. I 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:54.000 couldn't tell them stories because Ship, when we go to 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.879 the park and have a barbecue, somebody comes through and 0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:01.560 blast that motherfucker, or the police end up jacking everybody, 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.160 and somebody end up going to jail, or we all 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:08.360 go to jail. So I would tell you that progress 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.199 you give me, but some people, you know, didn't recognize it. 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.280 Some people did, and some people would give me, you know, 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.560 props for um. I think I've seen something not too 0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.959 long ago where somebody was talking about that. You know, 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:26.800 how up as, these classified gangster rappers influenced the youth 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.360 of today. And it's our fault because niggas is going 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.400 out killing everybody and doing ship. And I would tell 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.640 motherfucker's you know, I never glorified the hood like that, 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.280 you know, And then I saw somebody would say, well, 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.760 eight would tell the pitfalls of it. Eight would never 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.080 glorify being from the neighborhood, even though he was from 0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.959 the neighborhood. He would always tell you at the end 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.320 of his songs, the homely got killed, they ended up 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.719 going to prison for life or you know, that was 0:27:55.760 --> 0:28:00.359 the scenario. And that's the real life outlook, you know, 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.960 on a lot of us who came from the neighborhood, 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.919 you know, not being rappers ship. You know, before I 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.959 was rapping, I was just a regularized kid running around 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.240 Jane Banning and we went to jail every other day 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.959 for lortering Bonice come through, pick us up, drive us around, 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.960 throw us in the motherfuckerselves. Niggas come through blasting. We're 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.000 on the corner every day, six seven niggas trying to tell, 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.399 you know, to one car just to make ends me 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.360 because when you go home, you get me. You know, 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.840 when you're living in poverty and minds are struggling and 0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.959 ship like that, you gotta tell them tales man, because 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.880 you gotta let motherfucker's know that. You know, the pitchfalls 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.600 are being from the neighborhood is not all glorified. So 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.520 that was just something I always wanted to do as 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:51.720 far as my contribution. Some people recognize that, some people didn't. Yeah, well, 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:55.680 you know what. Eight was great at the introspective stuff 0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.120 in It's a song. I gotta give Iced Tea some credit. 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.760 On Dog Really Had Me. It was the first song 0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:05.120 I heard about prison. They're really Scared the funk out 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:06.640 of Me on the O G album. It was on 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.760 the original Gamester album The Tower, when of the greatest 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:14.360 fucking rap songs ever fucking wrote you know Where. He 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.560 was like, I'm rolling up in a big gray bust 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.280 and I'm shackled down myself though that's who I trust. 0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.120 The minute I arrived. Some sucking gout hit shank ten 0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.360 times behind some bullshit. It was just a real ship. 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.760 Like when he said that ship I stuck, I stuck 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.560 with twice in the nick and lefting they in the yard. 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.920 I was like, oh, this ship hard is a motherfucker. 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.959 I used to it's the hardest motherfucker ever. And they 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:39.000 get paid and niggas got and we got you know, 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.440 band or whatever, because but niggas was just telling tales 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.920 from from from situations you did me, because the ship 0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.880 was really happy, man, you get me. It was niggas 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.080 getting stuck on the prison yard. You get me killed, 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.600 niggas be on that bus shackled like man out of 0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.520 fucked up. Man, you gave me. It's it's it's it's 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.320 real hard life and some people don't understand it. And 0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.440 the way for us to express it. What's the rap 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:10.480 music you did me had? Also, the music had like 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:16.080 the Halloween type of music from them. Yeah, And it 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.600 just scares you because man, when I heard that ricking, 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.360 you gotta remember I'm old now, but I was young 0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.080 at that time. We was younger at that time. When 0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:25.880 I heard it, I was like, oh my god, man, 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:30.640 that's also remember two Similarly, the moment I feared by 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:36.000 slick Rick exactly whoa whoa? I only I don't want 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.840 no part of that. Yeah, it was and slick Rick. 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.440 You know what, man. And that's the thing about gamester rapper. 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:46.400 I think sometimes some artists like to me, cougie rappers 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.320 against rapper. To me, carriss one is against rapper. To me, 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:54.120 justice is against rapper. To me, school he is against rapper. 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.000 It's not just the West Coast thing or here. You 0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:00.560 could be for wherever. If you tell me, you know, 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.480 you gotta be. Because even though they didn't talk blood 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.320 and crypt ship, that was the introduction. Do you know 0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.800 what I'm saying? The East Coast? To me, those those 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:14.520 were niggas that I bumped, you know, faithfully, because that 0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:20.240 was as a young motherfucker getting introduced to kid pop um. 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.320 Them niggas represented the streets. You give me school. Listen 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.680 to this in eight six, This is what school, he said. 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:30.160 Part side my placing home. The PSK gangsters like the 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.880 room Sheba in her hand, thirty two on her socks, 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:38.400 protecting our turf like it was Fort Knox. That's her ship. Yeah, 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.880 here's my gang, here's our corner. And if you come around. 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:47.040 We got something for you. That's dang banging all day 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.680 and that was eighty six so like and that's on 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.640 the park Side five too. That want to listen to 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.960 that song, But like I remember hearing that and in Maryland. 0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.400 Thankfully I didn't grow up in a super crazy area anything, 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.320 but it was only one or two. It wasn't that 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:06.000 far away. But we didn't have it. We had more 0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.240 crews and neighborhoods and stuff like that in Baltimore, DC 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.760 or places I would go, but it wasn't like you 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.320 don't come on fifty two and Parkside like school. He 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.560 made me believe, you know, I'm not going to Philly. 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.040 If I go to Philly, I do not want to 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.360 end up on fifty two Street and park Side Avenue. 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.680 I do not want to go you know, you know 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.280 you being from that part of the country. Man, kick 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.880 your top five. Kick your top five right now. I'm 0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.920 interested to hear with this. This is hard given how 0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.600 we kind of change what it is. So remember but 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.040 the five I think impacted what I saw a different 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.920 times in my life of the streets per se was 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.320 the running m C Publican Demia takes the Nation of 0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.560 millions to hold us back straight out of Compton, n 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:56.840 w A. And then I gotta say, uh, the chronic 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:02.880 and ghet O D by Master P. Okay, that's interesting 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.840 that I can. I can see that Dom Ghetto D 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.280 is the only one I was in college. I had 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.800 graduated from college when that came out, but I went 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:19.040 to college in Ohio. It's Cincinnati A Xavier. Yeah, I can. Oh, 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:23.360 my god. I had seen him at Dayton, Ohio perform 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.320 during like the ice Cream Man error or something, and 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.280 I was like, who is this dude, Mr P And 0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.560 why is he performing in Dayton, Ohio. I didn't believe 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.200 he would be able to have a show there at 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.960 that time, but it was sold out and people with 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.400 daan't Ohio it would go on nuts and as both 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.800 y'all know, that's Roger and Zapp, that's that's you know, 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:47.240 they got the music there. So the Ghetto D album 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.840 not only was it affecting all over the country, which 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.520 I hadn't seen yet because we didn't go I only 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.640 went on two vacations my whole life as a kid. 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.040 We weren't like traveling around the world or anything. I 0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:02.080 was pretty much in Maryland, so I didn't see other 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.840 parts of the country until I went to college. But 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:08.960 I'll did they know how to show? And then also 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.719 I used to study Billboard every week religiously. And I 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.359 remember when Ghetto D and eight. You remember this, When 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.719 the album would come out rarely, but sometimes it would 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.880 chart the week before because the mom and pops and 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.600 the other stores would sell the illegally quote unquote before 0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.279 it came out. Now, the thing I'll never forget about 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.360 master p with Ghetto D and this let me know 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.759 the streets or into it. It charted at like a 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.600 hundred sixty eight of all albums before it was even out, 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.919 so that many people were buying it before it even 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.200 was legally for sale, that it made the top two 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:51.240 D not a rap of music. And I just remember, 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.120 like in Maryland people were loving it, and Ohio people 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.760 were loving it. And I had started traveling for writing, 0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.640 you know, thankfully my career had started taking off, so 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:01.560 I was going to different cities. I was going to 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.600 the South, I was coming to l A. I was 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.840 in New York all the time, and I just remember 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:12.279 I I had never experienced anything like Ghetto D, where 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.480 it seemed like the whole country was like Ryan for 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:19.239 this dude, and then that album just blew up, so 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:23.600 that one, that one, it was just crazy to see 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.839 that in real time and being able to travel. So 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.520 I gotta say, Ghetto d Uh is one of them. Man. 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.719 So you got Ghetto d Master, P Run DMC, what 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.640 was your other? What was your other? Three takes the 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:42.359 Nation of Millions, the holest back Uh straight Compton by 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.960 w A and then the Chronic by Dr Dre And 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.040 I can go through all five or how y'all want 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.560 to do it, but man, what I want to come 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:55.719 back to this is the big debate right here. The 0:35:55.840 --> 0:36:01.000 Chronic is probably the greatest rap album of all times. 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:05.239 The biggest debate no between that in way because you 0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:10.719 gotta go an impact right without in w A L 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:15.520 the Chronic might not be shipped well. One of the 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:20.440 things that I noticed and from for me and my 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.440 area in Maryland, that straight out Compton did that was 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.480 very different was and it started really what easy does it? 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.239 Because that came out first, But I never forget. I 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.440 was in uh home economics or wood shop class in 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.680 middle school and this white boy who I had never 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:43.760 heard talk about rap, ever, I had everything. This dude 0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.480 came up to me with the Easy Does It on 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.479 cassette and he was like, Yo, we heard this ship Sore. 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.759 I was like, yeah, I love easy Man. He goes, man, 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.719 this is this is amazing. And the thing that I 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.760 noticed was that the white kids that had heard Rapper 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.799 did or whatever, for whatever reason Easy Does It in 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.879 Strail Compton, but more Strail Compton, even though it came 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:10.480 out later, that really changed them for whatever reason, to 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.200 get into wrap in a way I had not because 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:17.000 this is so I've been listening to rap all day, 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.160 every day for three or four years at that time, 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.320 but that album all these white dudes at my school 0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.600 because I basically only had black people to talk to 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.160 in my school that love rap because no one else 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.440 did at that time. And as y'all know, that changed 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.000 a little bit later, you know, until where it was 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.440 like so many white people like rap, but not in 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.600 my In my school, it was unusual until and it 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.640 was something about Easy Does It and some about Strail 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.440 Compton in eighty nine where they were like, oh, we 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.520 can listen to this or in a different way because 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:57.000 running m C. I think, at least in my experience, 0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.320 it was more they liked Walked This Way. Didn't like 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.840 Running MC. They like that song for whatever reason too. 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.319 They weren't listening to the Sucker mcs. They weren't listening 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.680 to the Hard Times or it's like that, you know, 0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.920 even though those are huge songs, it was more we like, 0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:14.640 they're like more of the poppy stuff because you know, 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.520 Walked this Way it was a big song. That was 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.439 the Aerosmith cross over. It was just a big record 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.480 cause I remember me being in the highway at that 0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.600 time at all. It's kind of like places that I 0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:26.520 hung out with my white friends, like you know, the 0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:28.760 road with skating rink and all that and those little 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.799 shitty gloves. They're back in the house. They would just 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.840 play that song and that was them playing rap. And 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.480 then eventually it became like with Tone Low, that's the 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.399 same type of records, like you know with Tone Look, 0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.160 which interested enough. Tone Look was the first person game 0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:46.080 banging on wats but made the least games to rap music, 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:50.239 but was the biggest creep out there. Tone Yeah, Look, 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.200 Tone Look made the pop made pop music, you feel 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.040 what I'm saying. He made pop music, but he was 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:57.840 a gamester to dude, and I think that was the 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.960 thing in that era, I think with eight and them 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.799 did because it was some really regional good. It was 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.880 some good regional gates to wrap in the nineties like 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.120 nineties nine, like you had cats like the Dayton family. 0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.680 You had top authority, and if you went to Ohio, 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:17.560 if you were in Ohio, Indianapolis, you know, in Ohio, 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:22.080 Indiana or Michigan, you would have swerping down. Top authority 0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:26.160 was platinum for the Dayton family because every truck that 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.400 drove by was them dudes, and it was like that 0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:32.320 was day comptence most wanted. And they see what I'm saying, 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.239 that was their version. Everybody had their own version of 0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.880 in dethituate around the country and it made it some 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.239 pretty dope hip hop. And during that time you can 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:45.800 kind of fall off your bid and see thirty thousand records. Remember, 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.080 of course eight knows. But that's why I'm bringing up 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.640 the same thing with the MC breeding DFC, because exactly 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:57.040 DFC was huge to man, especially huge I had to 0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.040 benefit and part of the reason why I wanted to 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.280 go to Ohio was to get to see a different 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:03.799 part of the country. So when I did go to 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.200 college and I was able to go to Cleveland and 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.600 Columbus and Dayton and Cincinnati and Lexington and Louisville and 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.120 all these places because all the people in my school 0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:13.680 were from there. So I'd be like, hey, can I 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:14.920 go hold with you for the weekend? I want to 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.120 see what it's like. And I got to do all that. 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.279 That's where I gained a deeper appreciation. And even people 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.520 in the South like April and MJ. G were huge 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.319 and Cincinnati, so it's like, you know, you just see 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.400 and hear all these different things when you're able to 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.480 get around. And that's why to me that ghetto d 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:37.680 by Master P was such a not only because I 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.400 agree everything is still saying, but I also think the 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.880 Master P was times a thousand. You know. It's just 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.480 a different level of the games. Yeah know, because you 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.280 got to see it there see. And don't get me wrong, 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.879 I'm a master P fan. I think you can't help 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.200 but love what his movement was. You know, he's a 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.880 dude that came because he wasn't necessarily the best rapper 0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.640 in the world, but just his hustle and his driving, 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.839 his determination kind of makes you want to want see 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:06.640 the motherfucker win. You know what I'm saying, and he 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.719 did his ship. You know, I just think it was 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.279 a lot of um. I just think as far as 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.520 independence go, during that time, it was a lot of 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:19.760 great independent albums too that may not necessarily be worthy 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.080 of that top five spot or whatever like that. But 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.640 then something you may talk to somebody that's from Cleveland, Ohio, 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.560 from Detroit, Michigan, and they may swear, but down the 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.600 day the Dayton Family got the best gamester Rap album 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.560 of all time, and some of that ship may be 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:37.480 valid that they may have valid opinions. I think they 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.080 got valid points. But I think as far as now man, 0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.319 I think that air makes that are so specialist that 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:49.640 people actually it was a method behind the madness. People 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.520 was actually talking about sit gamester Rap made some of 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.600 the best political statements and songs, you know what I'm saying, 0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:59.120 Like Ice Cue with Black Career, You know what I'm saying, 0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:00.960 A song that couldn't be made the day because it 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:03.759 would be mr It would be looked at as um 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.080 anti Semitic and all kinds of other stuff. You know 0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:09.279 what I mean, Right, we would be looked at in 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.399 a certain way. But they actually made statements back then. 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.840 It just wasn't about senseless violence. It was all like 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.720 a method behind the madness. And today man versus today 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.280 to where you get a dude to sell like A said, 0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.880 a million bricks, he is sell a million killer Grahams. 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.640 And he got away because his girlfriend was in there 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.240 at fans or whatever. He was sucking her or whatever. 0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.759 He got away in the helicopter. He wait, you see 0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.880 what I'm saying exactly like you're saying. Still, how many 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.360 damn helicopters are there in reality? Exactly? Man, So you 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.319 know you got motherfucker's But all these tales, and I 0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.040 always remember that this is just entertainment at the end 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.520 of the day. It's entertainment. But I still think the 0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.560 ship meant a little bit more back then. Well, I 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.080 think too. And eight let me ask you this eight 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:57.600 building off what's steel saying? I remember it seemed to 0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.880 me and when I was starting to get into writing 0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:02.919 and the interview artists, it also seemed like the things 0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:07.960 switched from being great or being respected for your work 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.320 too in the mid to late nineties, I think it 0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.959 changed into the quote unquote the hustle or I'm gonna 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.560 get paid off of this. Did you see a switch 0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:21.680 yourself artistically, of course it is, but I want to 0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.040 see from eight from the artistic side what he saw 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:29.320 as his career progressed of that if at all. Um, 0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:35.640 Basically it started the era of you know, like you said, 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:40.160 it started that era of I'm a hustler, Um, I'm 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:45.440 I'm I'm gonna get mine. Um. It changed to more 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.640 of about you know, what I can gather as far 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:54.000 as you know, uh, the glitz and glamor of hip hop. 0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:58.040 You get me. Uh, Nigga started to speak more on 0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:03.400 their wealth and and the ship that they could accumulate 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:08.879 as to when I first started, Uh, it was more 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:13.239 about your lyricism and if you can capture niggas with 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.640 your word play and what you had to say, you 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:21.799 get me. Thus, niggas like fucking uh ice Q, and 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.719 then niggas like ll Ale or early Nads or you know, 0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:30.320 just the whole rap scene in general. You know, Um, 0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.160 you have to be respected for your four what you 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.200 brought as far as what you had to say to 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:40.240 a motherfucker you know, Um, you gotta tell me something 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.680 as to you know, that error changed them to more 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:48.320 of you know, uh, you know the glitch, the glamour, 0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:55.040 the money, you know, the jury, the flossiness, the cars um. 0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:59.240 To me, it just changed the aspect of of being 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:04.680 a truan see and it got away from um, you know, 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:12.600 trying to capture motherfucker's with songs. Asked too, let's just 0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:15.239 do a lot of hookie ship and get people to 0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:21.480 sing alone. And and and it was you know, not 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.360 to say that anything was bad with the hustle and 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:29.719 wanting to you know, show your wealth or whatever. But 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.640 I didn't come from that era to get me. I 0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:36.240 came from the era of being humble and just trying 0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.400 to get on and trying to make a way of 0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:43.759 getting out of the hood because of of of the 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:47.040 mishaps of which you might fall into. You get me 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:52.080 going to prison, getting killed, you know, mama struggling, you 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:55.479 got you know, baby mama, and ship like that. So 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.719 it was more about us trying to express what was 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.520 going on with us in the neighborhoods and trying to 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.719 make a way out of being stuck in fucking shit. 0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:10.720 You get me as opposed to no, I'm a rapper 0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.800 about nigga, you know, I'm a rapper about my lexus 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:17.640 in my chain and my bank account and you know, 0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.920 you know what I bought today and ship like that. 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.480 So it just changed a little bit of the dynamic 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.560 of hip hop for us who were brought up on 0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:30.640 You know, nigga, you you got a rap to get 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.400 in this ship you give me. I don't give a 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.239 funk about how much money you've got for you. You 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:39.239 better know how to wrap or how you ain't gonna 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.000 you ain't gonna make it. You feel me, So I'm 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:45.279 gonna tell you I love Mr P. I love Mr 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.600 P bought all these records, but openly that's why Master 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:50.799 people weren't around that long, because he wasn't as good 0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:53.600 of a rapper, and that was his whole thing, Um 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:57.920 was I'm not a wrapper, I'm a hustle. And I 0:46:58.000 --> 0:46:59.560 was cool with that. It was cool he could tell 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.719 you so off the p this is not no this 0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:05.319 at all. That man made fool cool money. Mr Pe 0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.520 made stupid money, and he paid the way for a 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.880 lot of other people to have careers. He was a 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.799 great businessman. Even today he's still making moves. Mass be 0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:17.759 up there and everything from corn flakes, shoes cereal dog 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:23.239 like hustler, Donna hustle, right, my nigga know how to 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:26.320 hustle the games, and I don't think he was ever 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:32.000 on the on the motherfucking uh, the assumption of I'm 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:35.040 gonna be a fucking ice cube or a fucking Tupac. 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:41.000 You didn't know, motherfucker, where I'm from. We got certain 0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:45.840 phrases and certain ways we do ship, certain ways we hustle, 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:52.200 and I'm a motherfucking I'm gonna serve that you get me. 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:56.080 I'm gonna serve up with my people like and he 0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:59.960 knew you get me. It was smart because ain't nobody 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:04.400 was pushing for what they was doing, and he decided, 0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.360 fuck that, I'm gonna push my own ship. You feel me, 0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:11.040 and I'm and no, I ain't. I ain't gotta be 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:15.239 the best motherfucking lyricists. He made away because it's all 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:17.720 kind of motherfucker's that's selling a lot of records dogs, 0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:22.040 not just like Gucci man. You got cats like Gucci man. 0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.319 You got a whole bunch of these motherfucker's that's out there. 0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.239 Made a lot of money. They sell the records. I'm 0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:29.680 not gonna lie. Some of the records is jamming everything 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:34.279 I know. The cater to my customers that's the hustle mentality. 0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:39.320 Cater to your customers and then let everybody else fall along. 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.480 But I'm gonna serve up my customers what they want 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:46.560 from where I'm from, and then that's just just gonna 0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:50.960 fluctuate to other motherfucking places. You get me, because eventually 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.200 they're gonna like my ship or whoever whoever. They're gonna 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.000 take my ship over here, and somebody over there gonna 0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.439 like it, and then one person over here gonna take 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.719 my ship. But right now, I'm gonna concentrate and cater 0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.759 to my customers. You get me. And that's how I'm 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:09.399 gonna build my foundation by supporting my customers. And that's 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.320 how the niggas got to win. They didn't worry about 0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:15.720 the niggas who felt like you gotta be a lyrical 0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.839 genius or whatever, because where I'm from, the niggas talk 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.719 like this and they hustle like this. So let me 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:26.200 cater to them and bring and push that ship, and 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.600 then everything else will follow. And it did, it did, 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:33.160 It definitely did. And that's why I too remember two 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.279 with Master P. I think he was one of He 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:38.200 wasn't the first, but I remember he did it on 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.200 every album, and on several songs. Remember at the end 0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.040 of the songs he shout out since each shout out 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.759 like fifty cities, and he shouted out the cities that 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:51.200 didn't get didn't have either a big rap scene or 0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.480 that is being c markets. So like, you know, I'm 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:58.040 shouting out Louis, I'm shouting out Cincinnati. I'm shouting out exactly, 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:01.480 shouting out loss of Vegas or whatever it was. But 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:05.000 he did that religiously and I think that really affected 0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:08.880 people because I know in Ohio when I was in college, 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:13.239 that mattered to them so much because in Cincinnati they 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.040 didn't have that big rap scene. You know. So when 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:19.479 someone's shouting out with Cincinnati, Ohio on a song, whoa 0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:21.600 what is this? Let me ride with this dude? And 0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:24.719 it worked. Yeah, it work big time. And you know 0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:26.759 somebody else and I ain't trying to get too much 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:31.640 off your list. But we talked about quality, right lyricism 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.319 and beat selection and all that stuff that just goes 0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:36.719 into making a great artist, right because at the end 0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:39.799 of the day, it was entertainment. You know. It's just 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:41.400 like if Ronald Schwartz and I could go out and 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.480 shoot fifty people in the movie. We don't believe that 0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:45.920 movie was real. It was just great entertainment for that 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.160 hour or two hours we was in the theater. Right, 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:52.680 So you look at a cat like Rick Ross, for example, 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:57.280 Rick Ross is a bad motherfucker. He's a bad boy, 0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:04.520 dope as lyrics, got prop possibly top five as far 0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:07.120 as beat selection, as far as you know, crafting songs 0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:11.920 and putting stuff together. Ross makes some fireship. But is 0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:15.799 it believable or is it even about that? It was 0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:17.839 it just you know, because it's all entertainment and I'm 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:21.560 not knocking them, but I'm just asking that question is 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.799 should we judge these artists on basis of them being 0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:27.560 how authentic they are or are they making the best 0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:33.160 piece of art? Well, um, I mean to me, this 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.160 makes sense what I'm saying. I mean, I get what 0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:38.800 I mean, I get what you I mean. But it 0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:44.640 all is, it's all in the imagination of what a 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:47.920 motherfucker feel he wants to do with making a song. 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.920 Because I don't necessarily have to be speaking on me, 0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:56.120 you get me. I could just be making this song 0:51:56.280 --> 0:52:00.479 in general, because this is the perception I get from 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:04.000 what I see or what I spee over that happens. 0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:09.240 You get me, uh am I the nigga shipping thirty 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:13.360 keys across the motherfuckering whatever I could be or I 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:16.839 could not be, you get me. But the perception is, 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:19.800 this is the song that I want to make because 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:23.720 I know a lot of motherfucker's bill in that area. 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.680 You get me. There's a lot of niggas on the 0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:31.120 streets who knows what I'm speaking on and if I 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:34.719 want to have treat credibility, because that's the direction I'm 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:38.200 going with my music and my image. I'm not going, 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:41.840 uh you know, I'm not going to common route or 0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.400 the tribe called quest route or the L. L. Cool 0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:49.920 J Route. I'm going the route of the inner city 0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:53.319 nigga coming from poverty who have hustled his way up 0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:58.280 to whatever. So this could be the perception, Like I said, 0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:02.160 could it beat me? You never know. But what I'm 0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:04.080 trying to do is I'm just trying to make a 0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:06.799 song and paying the story for niggas that might be 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:11.240 in this ship or niggas who feel they like music. 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:16.680 Who tells stories of the hustler, the nigga who balling, 0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:21.239 the nigga who got a hundred bitches. You're getting me in, 0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:26.239 you know, so you you can't perceive sit just like 0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:29.960 you said with a movie. And I know people uh 0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:33.439 tend to hold us to credibility a little more when 0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:37.799 speaking on records or the perception with videos or you're 0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:41.000 saying that you this person. People hold us to that 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:45.359 standard because we're making records, right, because when you're get 0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:49.560 in the studio and you're talking about you know, you know, 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:53.240 I pull out the the I pull out the pistol 0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:55.960 and a blasts and nigga and I'm miss and I'm not. 0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:02.040 That's the perception how that you've given off to the people, 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:06.080 to the that's the perception you given off. That's an 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:09.200 important point eight. And I think that's the difference is 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:13.640 that name any actor or actress you want when they're done, 0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:18.000 they're acting, and the differences that think and the problem 0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:21.279 is in rap, a lot of the rappers, not all 0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:24.440 of the courts, have always said I this is my life, 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:27.000 this is me and then when they rap about it, 0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.520 then they don't want to be accountable for it because 0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.240 but wait, it's just a song. Well no, you can't 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.919 say this is all real and this is what I've 0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:38.200 done and then run from it. Because you know, Christian 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:42.560 Belle isn't saying I'm Batman after exactly, He's not saying 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.040 I jumped off these buildings and beat up the joker 0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:48.480 and didn't like No, he's an actor. So like when 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:51.880 you hear a rapper, that's the difference. If the rapper 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.560 just said, like what Ah just said. Again, they might 0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:57.960 not listen to what eight said, but at least eight 0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:02.520 seven and the differences all these street dudes real or 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:07.680 imagined they are in this business of saying, like so 0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:09.839 many popular rappers now that have been in the game 0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:14.040 for a decade plus still rapping about selling thirty kilos 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:17.520 a month, I'm like, dude, you would be incarcerated seventeen 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:22.959 times over like no way and that in this ain't 0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:25.120 in no way of not towards if you're making the 0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.319 one to answer that right quick though. That's why I 0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:32.759 say it's a It's a line between presenting your ship 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:40.800 as as as music you get me, or or presenting 0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:46.880 your ship as yeah, I'm I'm the biggest boss and 0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:51.160 and I'm the hardest street killer, or like nigger I 0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:54.400 pulled up on the ops and I shot a nigger. 0:55:54.760 --> 0:56:01.719 You get me now? Now you got that perception from 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:08.240 the streets. Okay, okay, you oh you got that. Okay, 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:11.400 because new niggas don't want to just make music you 0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:16.480 give me, or you don't want to hypothetically say in 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:20.879 this record you get me. Oh Johnny did this or 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:25.439 Frank did this? You want to be Frank or Johnny. Right, 0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:29.319 So now that's the pitfalls of Now you see why 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:33.840 gang of motherfucker's is falling into a gang of bullshit nowadays, 0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:38.719 because oh, that's what you wanna be. You're saying you're 0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:42.360 the hardest nigga and use the fucking you're the fucking 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:48.040 killer and you're the biggest cheelo drug dealer. Okay, no problem. 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.080 Now we either gonna come Now, we're either gonna come 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:54.560 checking your door, uh, try to take your ship, or 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:58.040 you're gonna you know, that's the situation and the line 0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:04.879 between trying to just make me music for people to enjoy. Well, 0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:07.399 like they say, I was a storyteller, Yeah, I'm gonna 0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:10.560 telling your story. I'm not saying that's me. I'm just 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.839 telling you a story. I'm not saying eight jumped out 0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:18.880 the motherfucking I'm just hypothetically saying this might happen. You 0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:21.600 never see me say yeah, nigga, I jumped out the 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:25.000 bushes with the h A and are killing niggas and 0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:31.000 whatever whatever, Because that's the difference between the days of 0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:36.400 when I told stories as to now. It seems like 0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:41.200 when niggas make records, they want to glorify this position 0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:46.080 or you know, they want to glorify the the craziness 0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:49.040 of of what we used to try to keep silent. 0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:52.760 You give me how all motherfucker's know that I'm selling 0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:55.680 thirty keys? I don't want you to give me. It's 0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:59.200 like that John Gotti complex, Like I gotta let the 0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:03.200 motherfucking know, like this is me type ship, like when 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:06.520 you're supposed to be quiet about ship. But I guess 0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:10.200 that's the world of of of the difference of of 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:14.000 you know, trying to make just music and songs for 0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:18.960 people and then giving people to present perception that you 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:21.320 want to be a you know, a killer or a 0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:25.560 drug dealer or you get me yeah, and you know, 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:27.919 and put that out there to clarify something I said 0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:32.120 about Ross. The type of music Ross makes is South 0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:35.560 Miami music and the area where he comes from. You know, 0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:39.040 he's an eighties later eighties nineties guy, it was all 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.120 kind of dope deep boys down there. So I'm pretty 0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:44.120 sure he's speaking of the experience of seeing all that 0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.760 he saw down there, and he probably hustled a little bit, 0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:50.480 probably hustled a lot. We don't know. Like he said, 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:52.000 he could have been a man down there for all 0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:55.040 we know. But to the average here just listening to 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.960 that stuff, it just seems so far affected that we 0:58:58.080 --> 0:58:59.840 always have to remember. I do think that it deals 0:58:59.880 --> 0:59:02.520 in the team because it is far fast. She doesn't 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:08.680 know the real noriega. Come on, come on, come on ahead, 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:12.480 come so, I come on, man. But that was a 0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:18.080 hard ass line. You gotta be. But but I guess 0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:22.720 you would have to. I guess you would have to. Uh, 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:25.720 you know how, Like you said, movies now they make 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:29.439 movies that they go they are based off of true stories, right, 0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:32.680 and then there's movies like you said, when you see 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:36.280 a motherfucking jump out, you see it. They can jump 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:39.720 off for the building and land on his feet and 0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:43.640 kill up every alien and ship not leave with a scratch. Right, 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:47.960 You have to differentiate the truth from from the hypothetical 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:50.640 and what you sit up there and go like, man, 0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:53.960 my nigga said, you know the real Noriega. What you like? 0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:57.880 What you even contemplate that? Like? Man, he said, you 0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:01.760 know the real Noriega. Man, know the real norriea At 1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:05.880 And still my favorite movie. My favorite movie is Hollywood Shuffle. 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:10.320 I don't know if y'all remember the movie. So y'all 1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:14.000 remember this exactly what it is saying. You remember when 1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:17.160 they did sneaking in the movies and they had the 1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:21.720 Chicago Jones playing off Indiana Jones and the ed to 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:24.480 the cliff and they jump off the cliff and when 1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:28.320 they land him and his girl, he's like, yo, you're okay. 1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:30.480 She goes, yeah, just to run in my stockings and 1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:36.480 they just jump off a cliff. That's my favorite movie. 1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:41.000 So you got you as a as a man, you 1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:43.919 just got to like, you gotta really just sit there 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:47.560 and analyze and be like, Okay, that's that's that's clever 1:00:47.680 --> 1:00:49.880 ship to say. And you just have to take it 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:54.760 from there because it's been entertainment, you know, it's it's 1:00:54.800 --> 1:01:01.200 it's for it's for for nigga telling street tales and 1:01:01.280 --> 1:01:05.880 for a lot of niggas who know the real Noriega 1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:09.160 and what was behind the real Noriega. That that's a 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:12.160 that's a good ass rap line for a nigga. You 1:01:12.240 --> 1:01:15.520 get me to say that I'm a hustler and I 1:01:15.600 --> 1:01:21.760 know the real Noriega because everybody knows the story behind Noriega. 1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:23.560 You get me if you don't watch the all the 1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:27.040 drug documentaries are all the tales of the government and 1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:30.960 the drugs and all that, you know, Noriega was significant. 1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:36.000 So for rat nigga who speaking from the aspect that 1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:39.880 I come from the hustle game, you get me saying 1:01:39.880 --> 1:01:43.880 a line like Nigga, Nigga, I know the I know Noriega. 1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:48.360 Nigga that the all this nigga this thing? Did he 1:01:48.400 --> 1:01:52.200 know the real Noriega? This nigga getting bookoo dope, you 1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:58.120 get that's what's that. As an average ask nigga who 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:01.800 popping in his CD, spent to it and he owned 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:05.680 the streets hustling, he gonna be like, Yeah, that nigga, 1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:09.440 that dash you get me, and that's the effect won't 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:12.400 have you get me? He won't that effect on the 1:02:12.520 --> 1:02:15.920 nigga who out on the block every day hustling his 1:02:16.160 --> 1:02:19.360 packs and ship making his money from that, and the 1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:22.000 nigga go nigga, I'm hustling nigga. I know the real 1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:31.120 Noriaga nigga. He know he owed me a hundred favors. Hey, 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:33.520 you know the first thing they're gonna say though, really 1:02:37.040 --> 1:02:43.320 like because he already speaking in the tons of I'm 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:47.080 the hustler nigga. Nigga, I nigga, I know about key 1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:50.600 lows and work and all that. So when the nigga 1:02:50.680 --> 1:02:53.760 dot nigga, I know the real noriaga nigga, nigga owed 1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:57.120 me a hunted favors. That making nigga go, who for 1:02:57.240 --> 1:03:01.800 real nigga? That nigga danger? Did you get me to 1:03:01.960 --> 1:03:04.320 an average? And that's just a nigga listening to a song. 1:03:04.720 --> 1:03:08.200 That's the effect he wanted them to half exactly. And 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:09.960 you know what the thing about that he was like 1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:12.680 when Ross had that beet with fifty cent, you know what, 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:16.560 fifty couldn't pull it off over on him. Ross's music 1:03:16.640 --> 1:03:21.040 was immaculate. Regardless of what you said about everything, all 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.320 the other ship that came back to the music, Ross 1:03:23.400 --> 1:03:26.960 was making way better music than Like I said, Man, 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:29.800 you know, when you in this game of hip ho 1:03:29.800 --> 1:03:34.560 hop whatever, um, you know, you gotta be able to 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:38.200 craft music. You get me. It's just not about just 1:03:38.440 --> 1:03:42.040 rapping and shipped and throwing down a record and whatever. 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:46.160 You gotta be able to craft songs and music. And 1:03:46.320 --> 1:03:49.760 you know, it's fortunate that you know a lot of 1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:54.440 artists who have came along, you know, like Ross, like 1:03:54.800 --> 1:03:58.760 you know, Snoop fifty Cube. You know, they have been 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:02.520 able to climb to up songs that are ever lasting, 1:04:02.680 --> 1:04:05.760 you know, not just over, you know, not just put 1:04:05.760 --> 1:04:08.600 out some ship that nigger here today and go on tomorrow. 1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:11.800 And so that's what that's what the nature of of 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:14.200 hip hop and being great for to be in this ship, 1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:17.040 you have to be able to make ship like that 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:21.600 that's decades, you know, lasting. You did me, not just 1:04:21.640 --> 1:04:25.080 to fly by night ship. So before we get out 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:27.560 of your dog, because we enjoyed this conversation so much, 1:04:27.600 --> 1:04:31.240 we don't miss running rent at the time. Top five albums, though, 1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:34.160 I'm gonna just I'm gonna do my ship like this, 1:04:35.000 --> 1:04:38.560 my top five what were we doing? Gangster ships? Streak 1:04:38.600 --> 1:04:43.960 Ship affected the streets. I'm gonna do this like this, 1:04:45.240 --> 1:04:51.000 the top five artists that affected streat Ship to me, 1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:59.960 I'm gonna go school e D. I'm gonna go easy. 1:05:00.640 --> 1:05:09.680 I'm gonna go Totty T and I'm gonna go um 1:05:09.920 --> 1:05:14.560 k RST and Scott lar Rock, criminal minded, great fucking 1:05:14.640 --> 1:05:19.000 lists and great list, all those things, all those boar. 1:05:19.680 --> 1:05:23.360 And that's as far as my introduction to street ship. 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:27.760 That's what I heard. You get me. I heard PSK 1:05:28.640 --> 1:05:32.240 banging in every hood nigga card on in l A 1:05:32.440 --> 1:05:37.400 from here to fucking New York. Okay, you heard motherfucking 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:43.280 criminal minded South Bronx banging. That was some hood ship 1:05:43.440 --> 1:05:47.960 to me. You get me. Um, So those are niggas 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:52.280 Totty t on the West coast. As far as gangster ship, 1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:57.920 the batter Ram, you know, Totty t is is the 1:05:57.920 --> 1:06:02.480 one who introduced niggas to making street records because he 1:06:02.600 --> 1:06:05.200 used to put out T d K tapes and he 1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:09.320 used to wrap over all the motherfucking the whod need 1:06:09.680 --> 1:06:11.680 if it was who d e be? If it was 1:06:11.760 --> 1:06:16.840 fucking uh, He had a motherfucking The battle round was 1:06:16.920 --> 1:06:20.120 off of remember Wrapping Duke. Remember the Wrapping Dukes single. 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:22.400 That was the first battle round. It was on a 1:06:22.440 --> 1:06:25.280 T d K tape and Tydt wrapped the battle raum 1:06:25.360 --> 1:06:28.840 off a wrapping Duke you give me, and that tape 1:06:29.000 --> 1:06:33.280 just floated around content He had all of like everything 1:06:33.320 --> 1:06:37.400 that was going on in the neighborhoods before Easy, before 1:06:37.600 --> 1:06:42.320 any street motherfucker I knew about. It was Todd Mixed Master, Spain, 1:06:42.720 --> 1:06:45.680 d J M. Wall all in Niggas. They had t 1:06:45.880 --> 1:06:48.800 D capes folding around and it was just nothing but 1:06:48.960 --> 1:06:52.680 hood tales. Everything was about Darryl Gates and the L 1:06:52.760 --> 1:06:56.000 A p D And the drug raids and and and 1:06:56.120 --> 1:06:58.680 the Clucks coming out at night and how they were 1:06:58.760 --> 1:07:03.280 serving in Track Park and all of your like freaks 1:07:03.280 --> 1:07:06.040 come out that night. Day song was called the Clucks 1:07:06.080 --> 1:07:08.480 come out that night and they talked about how they 1:07:08.480 --> 1:07:11.400 were serving in trig New Park and blah blah blah. 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:16.160 You know, it was extraordinary to me as a twelve 1:07:16.280 --> 1:07:19.760 year old kid walking around ride my bike in the 1:07:19.800 --> 1:07:22.280 streets to Compton, and then you go to the hood 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:25.840 and Nigga's banging his motherfucking tape on his boom box 1:07:25.880 --> 1:07:28.080 and you got this nigga wrapping over the little You 1:07:28.120 --> 1:07:30.040 remember how they used to put the little echo on 1:07:30.080 --> 1:07:32.360 the ship back in the days and ship, so you 1:07:32.440 --> 1:07:36.080 got this nigga rapping about Nigga Nigga five Old came 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:39.240 through last night. They raided and Gil Gates in the 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:42.440 battle ram over here and Nigga I'm in the hood 1:07:42.520 --> 1:07:45.560 and they talked about your neighborhood. That was gangs. That 1:07:45.600 --> 1:07:48.680 was then instroduction of street shipped to me so you know. 1:07:49.000 --> 1:07:52.760 And then going over to the East coast Krst one 1:07:52.840 --> 1:07:56.600 because him in Scotland Rock with the bridges over in 1:07:56.760 --> 1:08:01.880 South Bronx and poetry and criminal A did man. Then 1:08:01.920 --> 1:08:04.280 I had the poetry single Man and I thought that 1:08:04.360 --> 1:08:07.640 was the I thought that was the greatest ship ever made, 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:11.280 like just all these niggas, it's on some different ship. 1:08:11.440 --> 1:08:14.800 You get me. That's what I first thought. But but 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:17.599 then he has had the album cover with the guns 1:08:17.720 --> 1:08:19.800 and the ship, you know, and I'm like, oh, there's 1:08:19.840 --> 1:08:23.000 some gangster niggas. They was just from the East Coast. 1:08:23.160 --> 1:08:25.719 So that was my introduction to the East Coast street 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:29.280 ship you get me. So that's what that's what I say. 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:34.559 That's my contribution. Yeah, man, hey, you close without and 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:39.040 its intergretting you bring t t up because Todd, who 1:08:39.080 --> 1:08:41.800 don't do the interviews with nobody, has said he's coming 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:46.560 on the show. Oh that's good. Is an original, you 1:08:46.680 --> 1:08:49.320 get me. And for a lot of people who don't 1:08:49.360 --> 1:08:52.360 know about Todd, you know, he had the Battle Roum 1:08:52.560 --> 1:08:55.080 single that got picked up by Ethic that was on 1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:58.200 each first. But like I said, that ship started out 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:00.800 on the tv K take wrapping off for Rapping Duke. 1:09:01.240 --> 1:09:05.080 That rapping Duke. That's where sucking the Battle round pains from. 1:09:05.120 --> 1:09:10.000 And a lot of people they go, they jumped to 1:09:10.040 --> 1:09:13.080 the easy eating you know, because easy had you know, 1:09:13.920 --> 1:09:20.720 the world without it wouldn't be no king. But when 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:26.559 they come to Hampton, gangster rap and the motherfucking originality 1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:30.960 and the origin it started with Toddy t mixed Master 1:09:31.120 --> 1:09:38.240 Spade and just telling the tales of like growing up 1:09:38.240 --> 1:09:41.000 in the hood, you get me. And so for every 1:09:41.040 --> 1:09:45.280 motherfucking nigga who was banging in Campton or l A, 1:09:46.080 --> 1:09:49.240 you had that fucking T d K taping. You had 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:52.240 that tape and you had them strongs. What they was 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:57.599 talking about, the hoods, the selling dope, they was talking about, 1:09:57.680 --> 1:10:01.040 the hood rats and the straw b areas, they were 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:04.600 talking about the clubheads. They basically was giving you a 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:07.920 description of the city and what was going on before 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:10.439 Nigga's even made it to whack you give me, So 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:14.760 you gotta give Todd his his problems? Are you real quick? 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:19.160 You almost have to say you can almost say that 1:10:20.040 --> 1:10:25.439 T d T and Mixed Masters fade recipes are the 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:29.760 godfathers a rap in coming. Now. If now nigga's gonna 1:10:29.800 --> 1:10:34.439 dispute that, it was probably you know niggas who was 1:10:34.479 --> 1:10:40.200 putting out ship before them. But to me, that's my 1:10:40.400 --> 1:10:47.720 significance of dankster rap and my introduction to uh, you know, 1:10:48.880 --> 1:10:52.960 neighborhoods and writing on wax. Like I said, because we 1:10:53.000 --> 1:10:55.559 was just little young niggas, you get me. We were 1:10:55.600 --> 1:10:57.880 just little young niggas riding on our bikes in the 1:10:57.960 --> 1:11:01.840 hood whatever. Nobody was talking about what was going on, 1:11:02.000 --> 1:11:04.599 you get me ship that we were seeing on the regular. 1:11:05.080 --> 1:11:07.960 Because it was the ship that was going on. We 1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:12.719 didn't think that was, you know, important enough for people 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:15.120 to know about nigga. We was getting ship every night, 1:11:15.400 --> 1:11:19.000 that's not new. Niggas was getting blasted on every night 1:11:19.160 --> 1:11:22.080 and ye have niggas was selling crack pieces that if 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:25.639 you want to be you get me. So we never 1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:28.240 looked at that ship like. But when Todd put it 1:11:28.280 --> 1:11:32.200 on record and he started, you know it laid niggas 1:11:32.240 --> 1:11:36.160 feel like, oh yeah, you know Ship. This is significant 1:11:36.280 --> 1:11:39.479 because now people will get to know about really what's 1:11:39.520 --> 1:11:43.160 going on. And that's just to me how the introduction 1:11:43.240 --> 1:11:46.840 of our gangster ship from Compton started. Like, I don't 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:49.280 know who was before Todd. It could have been a 1:11:49.400 --> 1:11:53.559 plenty of few and or who knows, But to me 1:11:53.640 --> 1:11:56.479 as an eleven twilve year old, thirteen year old kid, 1:11:56.840 --> 1:12:00.240 you get me, uh, coming out of that air of 1:12:00.360 --> 1:12:04.120 being a kid, you know, watching cartoons on Saturdays and 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:08.360 ship like that too, you know, being in the backyard 1:12:08.439 --> 1:12:11.679 with niggas and they got douce deuces and niggas got 1:12:11.720 --> 1:12:14.360 forty ounces and you got a nigger on the boom 1:12:14.360 --> 1:12:17.800 box blast and Toddy t talking about watch out for 1:12:17.840 --> 1:12:21.120 the battle ram and you know, nigga's gonna come through 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:24.719 blasting and you know this how you serve a nigga 1:12:24.760 --> 1:12:27.080 and watch out for the one time and the clucks 1:12:27.120 --> 1:12:29.800 and on that. That was my mother's sucking introduction to 1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:35.000 the hood. Well, I would say, man, you know, even 1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:37.360 if it was somebody before time, they wasn't didn't had 1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:40.120 a significance yet, So to me, Todd is the godfather 1:12:42.240 --> 1:12:45.000 always recognized lin I said no disrespect to no other 1:12:45.080 --> 1:12:49.240 nigga or whatever. You know, Easy was very significant and 1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:51.920 I always, like I said, we want Easy album was 1:12:52.080 --> 1:12:56.960 very significant to you know coming up. Uh, but Totty 1:12:57.000 --> 1:13:00.320 t was you know, and and eight like we've been 1:13:00.360 --> 1:13:03.960 saying this whole show. Don't also had just say no 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:09.439 something exactly. It was always it was yeah, he could 1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:12.320 tell you I'm serving, but he was also telling you. 1:13:12.400 --> 1:13:15.160 Darrel Gates was coming with that battle ram you did me. 1:13:15.680 --> 1:13:20.160 There was no fucking positive I don't look like you 1:13:20.240 --> 1:13:22.880 get me. But then I'm gonna tell you just say 1:13:22.960 --> 1:13:25.479 no too. And on all that ship. Then I had 1:13:25.520 --> 1:13:27.400 songs like do you want to go to the liquor 1:13:27.439 --> 1:13:30.959 store and party jams and you give me? So everything 1:13:31.120 --> 1:13:34.160 wasn't always negativity, but we still got to give you 1:13:34.240 --> 1:13:37.080 that descriptive ship. You get me because like you said, 1:13:37.160 --> 1:13:39.799 so my nigga told you about how we were serving 1:13:39.920 --> 1:13:42.360 and selling. But then at the end he say, what 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:45.320 just say no to drugs because look what the funk 1:13:45.400 --> 1:13:48.040 it do to you? You give me and turn you 1:13:48.080 --> 1:13:50.960 into a cluckhead and funked up your family or at 1:13:50.960 --> 1:13:53.040 the end of the day, maybe you're going to do thirty. 1:13:53.360 --> 1:13:56.040 You get me, you're going to do thirty in the beds, 1:13:56.200 --> 1:13:58.599 So just say no at the end of the day 1:13:58.920 --> 1:14:05.080 and then you'll be like still looking at the tower. Well, man, 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:08.240 we on that note. Man, we gonna shut it down. Man, 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:12.200 we appreciate you, guys. Tune me and man, remember, subscribe 1:14:12.240 --> 1:14:15.679 to the new channel. Subscribe to the new channel. Follow 1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:18.280 us on our social media platforms. We're all trying to again, staring, 1:14:18.320 --> 1:14:20.320 trying to get popping. Like eight eight got the million 1:14:20.760 --> 1:14:24.840 million followers and all that ship in the blue, and 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:28.840 then I ain't bought no boxing, no motherfucking followers. So nigga, 1:14:28.880 --> 1:14:31.519 my ships is all authentic. I ain't paid for none. 1:14:31.640 --> 1:14:34.519 So Eight's still on eights, still on the load with 1:14:34.600 --> 1:14:37.719 the followers and ship. You see niggas with thirty million 1:14:37.800 --> 1:14:43.559 followers and eighty million followers. Man, I know you come followed, 1:14:43.680 --> 1:14:46.120 but we don't do the boxing, we don't do the 1:14:46.200 --> 1:14:48.240 pain for ship and none of that. We're trying to 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:50.559 keep it authentic here. Hey, I think they know the 1:14:50.560 --> 1:14:55.280 real Noriega, right, Yeah, don't want to know the real Noriega. 1:14:55.360 --> 1:14:58.559 They got a billion followers, man, not not me. I'm 1:14:58.600 --> 1:15:02.280 just a simplified their The man keep ussemming for sure 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:07.320 when we out of here at peace, chill H.