1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Jiah. You know what it is right now, you tune 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: in to The American Chronicles, the new podcast where my 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: boy still and Soaring Baker. You got your boy big 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Oho right here. What's cracking fellas man on this episode. Man, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: we gonna get stuff kicked off. And we kind of 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: had a little bit of controversy already, you know what 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But Big Old to saying, we're gonna keep 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: a gangster. So that's what we're gonna do. We will 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: keep a gangster exactly. We're gonna do what we gotta do. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: You know, new podcast. You know we're gonna try to 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: bring all kind of elements to the table. You know, 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: I know people you know wondering about the Gangster Chronicles. 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, uh, we're still on that, you know, shout 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: out to my boy James. We still got that rolling. 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: But we want to bring something different to the table. 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, the whole wide world of spectrum. You know, 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: not just about the Street Tales or whatever, but you 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: know interest that you know different people might want to have, 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, as far as you know the Street Tales music, 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, move vs. Uh, all types of genres here. 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so and bringing you know, 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 1: our boys soaring Baker Man journalistic extraordinary. Yes, yes, I'm 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: glad to be here man author, I know eight since 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: the nineties and still know from I guess close to 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: a decade now. So I'm glad to be part of 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: the team. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. Man. You 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: know one thing we was gonna talk about, and I 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: don't think it's a definitive answer to this, we said 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna do the top three gainst the rap albums 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: of all time, Street albums of all time. That's gonna 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: be hard, bro. I think it's making five. We could 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: go to fire, you can get you canna do your 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: top five or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Uh, 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: And this is like, you know, this is our personal opinions. 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: So you know it might be something different that you 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: might see, but this is coming from the spectrum of 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: what we have experienced over these decades of being involved 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: in hip hop and music, and so we just want 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: to get it. Uh, you know our outlook. Everybody puts 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: up their top five, top ten's, top fifties, whatever. You know, 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: some people might be on there that you might not like. 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Some people might you know, So this is just our 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: general intake of what we feel is, are you know, 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: uh addition to that you feel me? Yeah? For sure? 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: So who gonna kick it off first? Who gonna kick 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: off the top five? One? You go? Still ship man, 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: y'all just put me on the hot seat, right it seat. 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: You just met to tell what you what you think 49 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: your preference from when the day you started listening to 50 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: hip hop or gangster music or whatever. We'll keep it 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: in that, and then you started listening to the street music. 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, what do you feel up to? Now? Is 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: your top five in street related tales? All right, here 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: we go, And this is in no particular order. I 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: cube America's most wanted music to drive by those boys 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: gripping on another level, funck man, This is are iced 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: T six's Ryan Pays, I gotta land see. This is 58 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: fucking tough man. This is fucking tough man. M scar 59 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Face And this is what I'm had the problem because 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: I already got to get a boys in there, but 61 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: don got scar Face in there too for Last of 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: a Dying Breeze. Yeah, and I and I explained each 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: one of my picks. If if I can I think 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: for me with America's most wanted for where we use 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: at in the country at the time, because that was 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: when conscious rap was real big. You know, everybody was 67 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: walking around with the medallions on and everything. You remember, 68 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: you'll remember that era right where everybody's walking around with 69 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: the American you know, but the African medallions on everything 70 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: like that. I think you bought that same energy. It 71 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: was with a twist. It was like from a hood perspective. Yeah, 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I think two men growing up in Maryland, Yes, But 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I think for us one of the biggest things I 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: remember me and my friends talking about was we all 75 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: knew all the rappers in the n w A were 76 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: phenomenal artists, but we didn't understand that Cube was that good. 77 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: So for us, for us, it was the streets talking 78 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: of like, yo, do you hear Ice Cube and he's like, 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: fuck you Ice Cube. We were like what does he say? 80 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: Like this is crazy and we had no idea that 81 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: he was that good because Rand killed Straight Compton, you know, 82 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Dre was incredible on Straight Compton. They brought so much 83 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: too easy does it and w ain't Aposse. It wasn't 84 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: just because of Cube, it was all of them. So 85 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: we just didn't for us. We didn't understand that significance 86 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: in Maryland, and I just I'll never forget you know, 87 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: the brother you love to hate kicking off the album, 88 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: and my boy, one of my boys, just kept being like, 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: I can't believe he said cue because we didn't know 90 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: the inner workings and why he left. We just do 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: he left and he had beef, but we didn't know 92 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: what it was. And I was just mind blowing to 93 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: all of us. Everyone that listened to the album loved it. 94 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: We were just thrown off. Man. It was crazy and 95 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, That's what it was with me. 96 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: And plus he was fresh off the heels, like you said, 97 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: of leaving n w A yeah, and it was like 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: you wanted to see what he was gonna say and 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: what it was. And I just remember riding down the 100 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: street and Cleveland listening to that whole album. Same thing 101 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: with Music to drive By. Music to Drive By just 102 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: really just took me to a different place. And I 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: think because Eight's background sonically was so different, you know, 104 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: from the West Coast during that time, he was hearing 105 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: a lot of fun you feel what I'm saying. And 106 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: I always like to tell people that aid is almost 107 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: like the Isaac Hayes against the Wrap to me, yeah, 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying, he's the I said, he 109 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: it's against the rep And it was kind of just 110 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: like it didn't. That's when it was like with me 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: because if I'm correct me if I'm wrong, that was 112 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: the Compass Most Wanted the album. It wasn't an m 113 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: C eight album, but eight was the only dude on 114 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: their repping, and that was Scarface Starface and it was 115 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, where are the other dudes? That 116 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: is that his name to Compass Most Wanted? Well, you know, um, 117 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: well we started back you know, see if w it 118 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: was me Chill you know, uh cat name and um 119 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: you just do a little you know, trying to do 120 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: a little demo tape. You know, I was whatever. But 121 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: as they went on, um, you know, Chill you know 122 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: had the kind of couple runnings you know with the 123 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: with the boys. Um, so he had to go do 124 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: some time. That's for um. I just continued on instead 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: of going a solo artist at the time, I just 126 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: kept on with the Counten's Most Wanted name, even though 127 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: it was just me Rhynman. On the next three projects, 128 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: I just kept to seem w name uh, and it 129 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: wasn't up until I got ready to do we come strapped. 130 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: It's when Stoney decided to have me just go it 131 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: as a solo artist instead of CMW. Thus is how 132 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: you got m C a feature in the concertence most 133 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Wanted on my first solo project. So that's how that happened. 134 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: But I just felt, you know, in the beginning, I 135 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: didn't feel like I should go to just MC eight. 136 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: You get me. We had already had a platform for 137 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: a comptence most Wanted because of the first album and 138 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: one time gal for them upping that record, you know, 139 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: selling about two hundred and fifty thousand companies back in 140 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: fucking n So we just stuck with it. You fail me, 141 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: yeah for sure. And it was a classic album because 142 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: eight albums always reminded me of movies and did a 143 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: lot of albums during that time period. They just had 144 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: this really just like cinematic field where you would turn 145 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: stuff over from the beginning and you wouldn't stop to 146 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: the end. It wasn't no skipping, no tracks. You was 147 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: just kind of listened to it. It It was like watching 148 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: the movie kind of and it was cool, you know 149 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying it was just real dope, you know 150 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Hey, But but Music to Drive By 151 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: and straight well really all three conference most one of 152 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: the albums of the era. To steal his point, there's 153 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: no skips. And that's one of the things I always 154 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: go back and forth between if I like straight checking them, 155 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: more Music to drive By more, but um, the the 156 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: force and the menace of the production, especially on Music 157 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: to Drive By, it's just phenomenal, And I just think 158 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: straight checking them because I don't dance and some of 159 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: the other songs that a little more. Always I was always, 160 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, I tried to be a little differently, you know. Um, 161 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: that's why I did songs like I Don't Dance or 162 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, can I Kill It? Or you know, just 163 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: songs that were different than the usual, you know, right, 164 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: songs that were different than the usual. Hey man, you know, 165 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: hood niggas, pistols, police, dope selling, you know. So, I 166 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, I was just an I wanted to be 167 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: an artist first, even though from Compton in the neighborhood 168 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: and all of that, Um, I want to be an 169 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: artist or rapper first. So I felt, you know, having 170 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: songs like the Ducks sick, I give up nothing, give 171 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: it up. Uh, you know, final chapter, you get me 172 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: songs like that, uh, straight checking them. I don't dance, uh, 173 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, songs that that third of way from just 174 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: the typical Hey low wider Dayton's pistol and exactly. So, 175 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, I always try to be different. It's straight 176 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: away from what everybody else was doing as far as 177 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: thanks to Rap was concerned. You know, I think that's 178 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: why you remain one of the best artists of all 179 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: time from the genre there is. It is what it 180 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: is man, you know, so and I never could play 181 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: whatever it is up or down. You know. It's just, 182 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, I felt like I've done a a sort 183 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: of contribution to hip hop as far as the West 184 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: Coast is concerned, and my relationships that I've had with 185 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: niggas on the East Coast, you know, puts me in 186 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: the position to where I'm still you know, the garner 187 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: a little respect from dudes, you know, and said that's 188 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: much appreciated. Yeah, speaking of the East Coast, one thing 189 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: I did want to bring up was, even though this 190 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: is definitely not a gangster rap album, I just remember 191 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: this was right around that's time. I was starting to 192 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: really get into rap as a young young man or 193 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: young youth as the wild would say. But the Run DMC, 194 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: the first album the Streets of our area of Maryland 195 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: d C. That that album, it's self titled album that 196 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: had everything on fire Man because you had how this crew, 197 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: you had Sucker MCS. You know, it was like that 198 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: album to me as I was starting to understand rap 199 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: and get into it, really, I started saying, like, wait 200 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: a minute, this is what people are feeling in a 201 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: different way than I think what I was starting to 202 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: understand about people like Curtis Blow and loved his songs, 203 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: but they felt Run d m C in a different 204 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: way to me, uh what I was seeing. And that 205 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: was the first one that I remember as I looked 206 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: back that had that kind of different element and different 207 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: field because Sucker m sees was so hard and so 208 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: stripped down and so angry. You know, that element, I 209 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: guess you could say that was on street Ship. You 210 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: didn't me because you said they had wraps like Sucker MCS. 211 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: They had shipped like hard Times and ship Man, come 212 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: on man, you know, and then they would go to 213 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: songs like rock Box or or you know, ship like that. 214 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: But they was our first you know, element of street too, 215 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: because you know that Motherfucker's been had a flashy outfits 216 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: that Motherfucker's was used to niggas was in jeans and 217 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: fucking you know, pimp chaps and motherfucking leather coats and ship. 218 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: They represented the block and the hood and ship. You know, 219 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: you might have didn't hear tales of an actual yeah 220 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: HOMEI got you know, the homie wind popto was drug selling, 221 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: but they had a way of describing hood tales and 222 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: shipped to niggers coming from that era, you know what 223 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, So I guess you could say that too. Yeah, 224 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: hard times and it's like that in particular off that album. 225 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: Those two were the quote like eight saying. They weren't like, oh, 226 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm on the block slanging or doing whatever, but they 227 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: were also like talking about things in a way we 228 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: saw maybe with the message and different things that had 229 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: come out before it, but this was much more like sonically, especially, 230 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: I think it matched the force and the energy and 231 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: kind of the anger at times that Run and DMC had, 232 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: But the beats were so hard and so stripped down 233 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: that it was just like you know, you could feel 234 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: when they said hard times where it's like that, you know, 235 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: that's just the way exactly. I always kind of looked 236 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: at that. It's like the message kind of they took 237 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: the chorus of the message and kind of played off 238 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: it because it's like a jungle. Sometimes it's like that, 239 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: and that's the way it is exactly they described in 240 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: the term still can you hear this snoring in the background, 241 00:13:54,960 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, can you pick? Are you hearing it? Ah? 242 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: Because this this nigga loud is hell over here? Who 243 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: is it? Oh? Man? He's knocked the funk out? I 244 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: can't you know what I did here? A little something 245 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: the background snoring like a grown ass motherfucking man who 246 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: had had like fifteen shots last night or some liquor, 247 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: and he just laid up shut off the eighth store 248 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: over there over the front the weed he probably got 249 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: stop stopping that nigga told out album wake up? Hey, 250 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: So my um, you want to finish describing your picks? Still? Yeah, 251 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: let me go back because I'm going to kind of playoffs. 252 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: So it's Run DMC. Is the first Run DMC album? 253 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: One of your picks? So yeah, that would be one 254 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: of mine. Because mine I have being that I'm not 255 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: from l A. And being that I also I have 256 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: different entry points too, because what I was around and 257 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: what I saw, like for instance, America's Most Wanted of 258 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: course is one of the best albums of all time 259 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: as his music to drive by, But to me they 260 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: meant a lot. But to what was going on around 261 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: me in Maryland when I would go or be in 262 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Baltimore or be in d C. Neither one of those 263 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: two albums like are gonna say what my five would 264 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: be at least four when I was a kid, because 265 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: to me, part of the reason why I think I 266 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: had my careers because I could feel what eight was 267 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: saying in such a way that the first time I 268 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: ever met Snoop back in like ninety whenever I met Snoop, 269 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: he was like, I was asking about King T and 270 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Above the Law. He's like, oh, what part of l 271 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: A are you from. I was like, I'm not from 272 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: l A. I'm from Maryland, man, And he was blown 273 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: away that to me, that music meant so much to 274 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: me that I was asking him, Oh, Snoop, did this 275 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: influence you or did you do this or do because 276 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: of Above the Law or because of King T. But 277 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: that's how I felt the music. But what I'm talking 278 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: about the street effect, I'm gonna talk about more what 279 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: I saw or my friends, or the cities. When I 280 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: would go in the Baltimore, I go into d C. 281 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: What I would see or here playing out of cars 282 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: when I go to play basketball, when we were being 283 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: a tournament or something. You know. Well, that's why these 284 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: lists are always subjective versus being objective, because it's just 285 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: our own personal opinions and what we feel. And it's like, 286 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, you named run DMC. I'm Richie from Cleveland, 287 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: but I've been out in California since eighty seven. So 288 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: my next pick, which was the Ghetto Boys gripping on 289 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: another level that very much qualifies as against the rap 290 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: album because there was three dudes from Houston, Texas talking ship. 291 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: First of all, it was a fucking I remember the 292 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: original Ghetto Boys when it was Um Prince, Johnny C 293 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: and m Ready Red. So we went from having the 294 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: car free records to where when they brought Willie d 295 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: N and Scarface went from being DJ Action the Scarface, 296 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: there was just some rapping motherfucker's and they was all 297 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: so different. Willie deep was like the big country dude. 298 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: There was like a city dude to talk a bunch 299 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: of ships. There was really what people's ass in the streets. 300 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: And you heard about these fights that he made got 301 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: in because I heard about him with somebody's ass from 302 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: east side of Cleveland before the end store. Well he's 303 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: a he's a real boxer though too. On top of 304 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: all that, yeah, yeah, we all got swabbos, you know, 305 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: so we all got squabbles. And then it was just 306 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: the misied man. And then it was the ship they 307 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: was talking about like it was almost kind of like 308 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: they were part gangster rap, part horror Corgan's they were 309 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, slicing women up. Like those records 310 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: couldn't have got made today and instinctive as area we're 311 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: here right now, those records would have been banned for sure, 312 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: a whole lot of them. And so that's why I 313 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: picked the Ghetto Boys. I think they brought something new. 314 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: It was like a new experience, right and again another 315 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: visual group because if you noticed during that time period, 316 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: a lot of songs didn't have looks on them. It 317 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: would be just kind of the instrumental ride for about 318 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: twenty thirty seconds you know what I mean, almost to 319 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: give your brain kind of trying to reflect on the 320 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: ship you just heard for the past minute, and it 321 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: was just real visual. Now my other one Ice Tea 322 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: was like my introduction to West Coast rap. I remember 323 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: when I first heard six in the Morning. I was 324 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: in the projects in Cleveland, the project Homeboy. You know, 325 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: you got the homie in the hood that knows every 326 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: rap from everywhere. He got every tape of ells, he 327 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: got instants burned outside his crib. He just know everything 328 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: and helps to know about hip hop, and he always 329 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: got weeds. So I went over to Homie Ice Mike. 330 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: Shout out to Homie Ice Mike. I went over to 331 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: his crib, and I remember everybody was standing around like 332 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: we was all kids too, man, And we heard the 333 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: poem that Ice t had at the beginning of the song, 334 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: the child was born in the East, one day into 335 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: the West. He moved and all that ship and he 336 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: had the music in the background. Then when a magnificent 337 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: rhyme around the eel be designer if they ask you 338 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: if from death, it was just so it was like, God, 339 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: damn this ship as hard as a motherfucker. And that's 340 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: when they was kind of like doing it pit rock 341 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: guitars over the eight away drums and all that ship. 342 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: And then when six in the morning came me and 343 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: he told this story. It was so motherfucking just like 344 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: it was so visual. And that was around the time 345 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 1: the movie Colors that came out and all that, and 346 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: I was going to the West Coast that year. That's 347 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: when I was coming up to play football, and so 348 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: all the homies kept telling me, man, you sure you 349 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: want to be out there with them crips, them crypts 350 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: is real dangerous. Man. I didn't know what the funding 351 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: crip war blood was. So when I came out here, 352 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm the lone beach. I had a red Ohio state 353 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: sweat shirt on and I was walking to the burger spot. 354 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: There was a dude in the wheelchair and another Summonian 355 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: dude named Joker pulled up on me that was like, Cuz, 356 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: what did you were you from? Cuz? And I said Ohio. 357 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: They said, oh, you're trying to be funny to do 358 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: in the wheelchair like wrapped the strip, like the strip 359 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: up under the blanket in his lap. And I was like, man, no, 360 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm from Ohio. And they started laughing, they said, because 361 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: really from Ohio, they deliver see your driver's license, because 362 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: and I pulled out my I d right to see 363 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: it Ohio, so I gotta pass right and start hanging 364 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: out with them due. So that's when I started getting 365 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: to understanding of what the Crypts and the Blufs was. 366 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: But Ice gave a very very visual reputation representation of 367 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: what Los Angeles, California was at that time. Yeah, I 368 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: got the I got the privilege of being able to 369 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: see eight and Iced Tea perform earlier this year, and 370 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: I was like eight. I was like, I gotta sit 371 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: in the crowd this time because I haven't seen I 372 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: was like, i'ven't seen iceed Tea performing in person in 373 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: a long time. So I was like, I gotta be 374 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: in the crowd because it's such a different experience from 375 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: being on the side of the stage of backstage. And 376 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: thanks for the shout out again on that eight because 377 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: because I was for a long way eight, I was 378 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: with fishing with Laman and my wife and we were 379 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: like eight sauce rapping. But I was like, man, but Ice, 380 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: I think Iced Tea really as time goes on, because 381 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: he's such a prominent actor. People forget and Pitchman for 382 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: doing all his commercials, but they forget what he gave 383 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: the Rat and what he still gives the Rat. And 384 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest travesties. So I 385 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: think it's important Steal that you're bringing that up because 386 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: you know Ryan Pay's power. You know ice Burg all 387 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: these albums o G. They're phenomenal and his stories. The 388 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: great thing about to me, the best gangster rap is 389 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: something that eight did, something that iceed T did, schooly 390 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: D did it too. But all the great artists, ice Cube, 391 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, they showed you to the 392 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: cons of the game too. It wasn't just like, oh 393 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm the man, I'm getting all this stuff. It was 394 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: about getting locked up. It was about their problems and 395 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: how people the collateral damage that comes with the life. 396 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: And Iced Tea, I think was one of the best 397 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: and first people to do that on such a big scale. 398 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: And Ron Pays. You know, it's definitely wonder them because 399 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: he's running from the police. First thing, police at my door, 400 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: so we already know that's a second line. Yeah, for Shure, 401 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: and you know, going back to eight, it was so 402 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: hard for me not to put We come strapped in there. 403 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 1: You feel what I mean? And it was like, you know, 404 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to do this stuff is you? It's all subjective, 405 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: but you want to be as a you don't want 406 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: to miss nothing. You feel what I'm saying that. They 407 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: almost feel like a travesty not to include that album 408 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: because he's another one that gave you the pitfalls eight 409 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: don't been burned on songs. It ain't just been about 410 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: him getting shot. He's been that. Gonna cut STDs on songs, 411 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: don't cut std fun with the herd rad bitch of 412 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: this ship. He don't got jack before. He don't. You don't, 413 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: you don't got arrested. My tails are. I just try 414 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: to tell a motherfucker like you know, a lot of niggas, 415 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, want to be the victorious. You know, I 416 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: sold a hundred thousand birds and I'm bawling, and you 417 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: know I'm there or I'm not. I've always liked the 418 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: educator nigga on the pitfalls of being in the neighborhood 419 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: because everything is not glorious. You get me. Yeah, there's 420 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: some niggas who's ball and ship, but they eventually get popped, 421 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: sent up, go to the beds, get jack, come invaded, killed, whatever. 422 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: So I just always wanted to tell niggas the pitfalls 423 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: of being from the neighborhood. Yeah, we loved it, you 424 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: get me. Wasn't trade it for nothing. You give me. 425 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: If I had to go back and do it all 426 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: over again, nigga still do it all over again, ragging 427 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: the back pockets, strapping the motherfucking under the seat, getting 428 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: jacked by the police every day. But you know, there 429 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: was always a motherfucking there was always an insight to it, 430 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: you nit me, because I always went to jail, or 431 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: always got busted with a gun in my car, or 432 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: got shot at it or you really you didnt me. 433 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: So even though it was glorious to a nigga, we 434 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: still had to, you know, go through those pitfalls of 435 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: being from the neighborhood. And that's what I wanted to 436 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: tell in my chails. I didn't just wanted to glorify. 437 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Everybody had low riders and banging, and we were the 438 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: strong power and ruthy win. Don't tell a nigga like, yeah, 439 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: the homie went to jail for life, or the homie 440 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: got chilled, or hey, I got a question for you 441 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: on that exact point, because I noticed from listening to 442 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: your music since the beginning, since the Comptent compilation. But 443 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: my question is, why do you think because you, in 444 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: particular and the other great artists we mentioned have done that, 445 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: why do you think so many people don't acknowledge that 446 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: or pay attention to it when they talk about Comptence 447 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: most wanted the gangster rap that it's always so much 448 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: of the glorifying or the negativity. They don't look at 449 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: the fact that no MC is telling you all these 450 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: bad things that happened to him, that he's seen bad happen, 451 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: Like why do they not? Because to me I always 452 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: saw that. I always was like whoa, I guess um 453 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: because I just fell into that motherfucking category of being 454 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: a gangster net from Compton. You get me And to 455 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: others who were against that, um you, they never want 456 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: to recognize you know, like you always see the bad. 457 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: You will never see a motherfucker give back to the 458 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: neighborhood or when they go out and by turkeys or 459 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: do little ship for the schools or whatever. Um I was. 460 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: It was just the category of being against the rapper 461 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: and Compton's most wanted And I think that's what had 462 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: a lot of effect on it. When you heard the 463 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: word Compton and you looked at the videos and you 464 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: saw them, you know, the imagery and magazines or whatever. 465 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't get that. Um. They just 466 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: saw you know, niggas and khaki suits with with raiders 467 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: caps on and talking about Compton and drive by killings 468 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: and Ship. But they never wanted to analyze that. A 469 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: lot of the Ship that I told was the pitfalls 470 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: of it. You get me, You you sucked with a 471 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: hood rack, you got burnt. Uh, you did a drive by, 472 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: You go to prison, You get me. Uh. Niggas come 473 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: through and catch you slipping, you die, you get me? Uh. 474 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: That was my tails. It wasn't like nigga. We was 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: at the park today having a ball and the picnic 476 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: and everybody was barbecuing and drinking forties and Ship. I 477 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: couldn't tell them stories because Ship, when we go to 478 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: the park and have a barbecue, somebody comes through and 479 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: blast that motherfucker, or the police end up jacking everybody, 480 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: and somebody end up going to jail, or we all 481 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: go to jail. So I would tell you that progress 482 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: you give me, but some people, you know, didn't recognize it. 483 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: Some people did, and some people would give me, you know, 484 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: props for um. I think I've seen something not too 485 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: long ago where somebody was talking about that. You know, 486 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: how up as, these classified gangster rappers influenced the youth 487 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: of today. And it's our fault because niggas is going 488 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: out killing everybody and doing ship. And I would tell 489 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: motherfucker's you know, I never glorified the hood like that, 490 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, And then I saw somebody would say, well, 491 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: eight would tell the pitfalls of it. Eight would never 492 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: glorify being from the neighborhood, even though he was from 493 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. He would always tell you at the end 494 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: of his songs, the homely got killed, they ended up 495 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: going to prison for life or you know, that was 496 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: the scenario. And that's the real life outlook, you know, 497 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: on a lot of us who came from the neighborhood, 498 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: you know, not being rappers ship. You know, before I 499 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: was rapping, I was just a regularized kid running around 500 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Jane Banning and we went to jail every other day 501 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: for lortering Bonice come through, pick us up, drive us around, 502 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: throw us in the motherfuckerselves. Niggas come through blasting. We're 503 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: on the corner every day, six seven niggas trying to tell, 504 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: you know, to one car just to make ends me 505 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: because when you go home, you get me. You know, 506 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: when you're living in poverty and minds are struggling and 507 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 1: ship like that, you gotta tell them tales man, because 508 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: you gotta let motherfucker's know that. You know, the pitchfalls 509 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: are being from the neighborhood is not all glorified. So 510 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: that was just something I always wanted to do as 511 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: far as my contribution. Some people recognize that, some people didn't. Yeah, well, 512 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: you know what. Eight was great at the introspective stuff 513 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: in It's a song. I gotta give Iced Tea some credit. 514 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: On Dog Really Had Me. It was the first song 515 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I heard about prison. They're really Scared the funk out 516 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: of Me on the O G album. It was on 517 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: the original Gamester album The Tower, when of the greatest 518 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: fucking rap songs ever fucking wrote you know Where. He 519 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: was like, I'm rolling up in a big gray bust 520 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: and I'm shackled down myself though that's who I trust. 521 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: The minute I arrived. Some sucking gout hit shank ten 522 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: times behind some bullshit. It was just a real ship. 523 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: Like when he said that ship I stuck, I stuck 524 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: with twice in the nick and lefting they in the yard. 525 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this ship hard is a motherfucker. 526 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: I used to it's the hardest motherfucker ever. And they 527 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: get paid and niggas got and we got you know, 528 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: band or whatever, because but niggas was just telling tales 529 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: from from from situations you did me, because the ship 530 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: was really happy, man, you get me. It was niggas 531 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: getting stuck on the prison yard. You get me killed, 532 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: niggas be on that bus shackled like man out of 533 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: fucked up. Man, you gave me. It's it's it's it's 534 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: real hard life and some people don't understand it. And 535 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: the way for us to express it. What's the rap 536 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: music you did me had? Also, the music had like 537 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: the Halloween type of music from them. Yeah, And it 538 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: just scares you because man, when I heard that ricking, 539 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: you gotta remember I'm old now, but I was young 540 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: at that time. We was younger at that time. When 541 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: I heard it, I was like, oh my god, man, 542 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: that's also remember two Similarly, the moment I feared by 543 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: slick Rick exactly whoa whoa? I only I don't want 544 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: no part of that. Yeah, it was and slick Rick. 545 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: You know what, man. And that's the thing about gamester rapper. 546 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: I think sometimes some artists like to me, cougie rappers 547 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: against rapper. To me, carriss one is against rapper. To me, 548 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: justice is against rapper. To me, school he is against rapper. 549 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: It's not just the West Coast thing or here. You 550 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: could be for wherever. If you tell me, you know, 551 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: you gotta be. Because even though they didn't talk blood 552 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: and crypt ship, that was the introduction. Do you know 553 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? The East Coast? To me, those those 554 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: were niggas that I bumped, you know, faithfully, because that 555 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: was as a young motherfucker getting introduced to kid pop um. 556 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: Them niggas represented the streets. You give me school. Listen 557 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: to this in eight six, This is what school, he said. 558 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Part side my placing home. The PSK gangsters like the 559 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: room Sheba in her hand, thirty two on her socks, 560 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: protecting our turf like it was Fort Knox. That's her ship. Yeah, 561 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: here's my gang, here's our corner. And if you come around. 562 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: We got something for you. That's dang banging all day 563 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: and that was eighty six so like and that's on 564 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: the park Side five too. That want to listen to 565 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: that song, But like I remember hearing that and in Maryland. 566 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Thankfully I didn't grow up in a super crazy area anything, 567 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: but it was only one or two. It wasn't that 568 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: far away. But we didn't have it. We had more 569 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: crews and neighborhoods and stuff like that in Baltimore, DC 570 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: or places I would go, but it wasn't like you 571 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: don't come on fifty two and Parkside like school. He 572 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: made me believe, you know, I'm not going to Philly. 573 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: If I go to Philly, I do not want to 574 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: end up on fifty two Street and park Side Avenue. 575 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: I do not want to go you know, you know 576 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: you being from that part of the country. Man, kick 577 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: your top five. Kick your top five right now. I'm 578 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: interested to hear with this. This is hard given how 579 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: we kind of change what it is. So remember but 580 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: the five I think impacted what I saw a different 581 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: times in my life of the streets per se was 582 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: the running m C Publican Demia takes the Nation of 583 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: millions to hold us back straight out of Compton, n 584 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: w A. And then I gotta say, uh, the chronic 585 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: and ghet O D by Master P. Okay, that's interesting 586 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: that I can. I can see that Dom Ghetto D 587 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: is the only one I was in college. I had 588 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: graduated from college when that came out, but I went 589 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: to college in Ohio. It's Cincinnati A Xavier. Yeah, I can. Oh, 590 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: my god. I had seen him at Dayton, Ohio perform 591 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: during like the ice Cream Man error or something, and 592 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: I was like, who is this dude, Mr P And 593 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: why is he performing in Dayton, Ohio. I didn't believe 594 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: he would be able to have a show there at 595 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: that time, but it was sold out and people with 596 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: daan't Ohio it would go on nuts and as both 597 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: y'all know, that's Roger and Zapp, that's that's you know, 598 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: they got the music there. So the Ghetto D album 599 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: not only was it affecting all over the country, which 600 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen yet because we didn't go I only 601 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: went on two vacations my whole life as a kid. 602 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: We weren't like traveling around the world or anything. I 603 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: was pretty much in Maryland, so I didn't see other 604 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: parts of the country until I went to college. But 605 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: I'll did they know how to show? And then also 606 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: I used to study Billboard every week religiously. And I 607 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: remember when Ghetto D and eight. You remember this, When 608 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: the album would come out rarely, but sometimes it would 609 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: chart the week before because the mom and pops and 610 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: the other stores would sell the illegally quote unquote before 611 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: it came out. Now, the thing I'll never forget about 612 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: master p with Ghetto D and this let me know 613 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: the streets or into it. It charted at like a 614 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: hundred sixty eight of all albums before it was even out, 615 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: so that many people were buying it before it even 616 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: was legally for sale, that it made the top two 617 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: D not a rap of music. And I just remember, 618 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: like in Maryland people were loving it, and Ohio people 619 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: were loving it. And I had started traveling for writing, 620 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, thankfully my career had started taking off, so 621 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: I was going to different cities. I was going to 622 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: the South, I was coming to l A. I was 623 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: in New York all the time, and I just remember 624 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: I I had never experienced anything like Ghetto D, where 625 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: it seemed like the whole country was like Ryan for 626 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: this dude, and then that album just blew up, so 627 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: that one, that one, it was just crazy to see 628 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: that in real time and being able to travel. So 629 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: I gotta say, Ghetto d Uh is one of them. Man. 630 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: So you got Ghetto d Master, P Run DMC, what 631 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: was your other? What was your other? Three takes the 632 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: Nation of Millions, the holest back Uh straight Compton by 633 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: w A and then the Chronic by Dr Dre And 634 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: I can go through all five or how y'all want 635 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: to do it, but man, what I want to come 636 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: back to this is the big debate right here. The 637 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: Chronic is probably the greatest rap album of all times. 638 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: The biggest debate no between that in way because you 639 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: gotta go an impact right without in w A L 640 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: the Chronic might not be shipped well. One of the 641 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: things that I noticed and from for me and my 642 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: area in Maryland, that straight out Compton did that was 643 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: very different was and it started really what easy does it? 644 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: Because that came out first, But I never forget. I 645 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: was in uh home economics or wood shop class in 646 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: middle school and this white boy who I had never 647 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: heard talk about rap, ever, I had everything. This dude 648 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: came up to me with the Easy Does It on 649 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 1: cassette and he was like, Yo, we heard this ship Sore. 650 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I love easy Man. He goes, man, 651 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: this is this is amazing. And the thing that I 652 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: noticed was that the white kids that had heard Rapper 653 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: did or whatever, for whatever reason Easy Does It in 654 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: Strail Compton, but more Strail Compton, even though it came 655 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: out later, that really changed them for whatever reason, to 656 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: get into wrap in a way I had not because 657 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: this is so I've been listening to rap all day, 658 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: every day for three or four years at that time, 659 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: but that album all these white dudes at my school 660 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: because I basically only had black people to talk to 661 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: in my school that love rap because no one else 662 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: did at that time. And as y'all know, that changed 663 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: a little bit later, you know, until where it was 664 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: like so many white people like rap, but not in 665 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: my In my school, it was unusual until and it 666 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: was something about Easy Does It and some about Strail 667 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: Compton in eighty nine where they were like, oh, we 668 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: can listen to this or in a different way because 669 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: running m C. I think, at least in my experience, 670 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: it was more they liked Walked This Way. Didn't like 671 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: Running MC. They like that song for whatever reason too. 672 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: They weren't listening to the Sucker mcs. They weren't listening 673 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: to the Hard Times or it's like that, you know, 674 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: even though those are huge songs, it was more we like, 675 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: they're like more of the poppy stuff because you know, 676 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: Walked this Way it was a big song. That was 677 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: the Aerosmith cross over. It was just a big record 678 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: cause I remember me being in the highway at that 679 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: time at all. It's kind of like places that I 680 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: hung out with my white friends, like you know, the 681 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: road with skating rink and all that and those little 682 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: shitty gloves. They're back in the house. They would just 683 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: play that song and that was them playing rap. And 684 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: then eventually it became like with Tone Low, that's the 685 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: same type of records, like you know with Tone Look, 686 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: which interested enough. Tone Look was the first person game 687 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: banging on wats but made the least games to rap music, 688 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: but was the biggest creep out there. Tone Yeah, Look, 689 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: Tone Look made the pop made pop music, you feel 690 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He made pop music, but he was 691 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: a gamester to dude, and I think that was the 692 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: thing in that era, I think with eight and them 693 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: did because it was some really regional good. It was 694 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: some good regional gates to wrap in the nineties like 695 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: nineties nine, like you had cats like the Dayton family. 696 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: You had top authority, and if you went to Ohio, 697 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: if you were in Ohio, Indianapolis, you know, in Ohio, 698 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: Indiana or Michigan, you would have swerping down. Top authority 699 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: was platinum for the Dayton family because every truck that 700 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: drove by was them dudes, and it was like that 701 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: was day comptence most wanted. And they see what I'm saying, 702 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: that was their version. Everybody had their own version of 703 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: in dethituate around the country and it made it some 704 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: pretty dope hip hop. And during that time you can 705 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: kind of fall off your bid and see thirty thousand records. Remember, 706 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: of course eight knows. But that's why I'm bringing up 707 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: the same thing with the MC breeding DFC, because exactly 708 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: DFC was huge to man, especially huge I had to 709 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: benefit and part of the reason why I wanted to 710 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: go to Ohio was to get to see a different 711 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: part of the country. So when I did go to 712 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: college and I was able to go to Cleveland and 713 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: Columbus and Dayton and Cincinnati and Lexington and Louisville and 714 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: all these places because all the people in my school 715 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: were from there. So I'd be like, hey, can I 716 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: go hold with you for the weekend? I want to 717 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: see what it's like. And I got to do all that. 718 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: That's where I gained a deeper appreciation. And even people 719 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: in the South like April and MJ. G were huge 720 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati, so it's like, you know, you just see 721 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: and hear all these different things when you're able to 722 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: get around. And that's why to me that ghetto d 723 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: by Master P was such a not only because I 724 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: agree everything is still saying, but I also think the 725 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: Master P was times a thousand. You know. It's just 726 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: a different level of the games. Yeah know, because you 727 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: got to see it there see. And don't get me wrong, 728 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm a master P fan. I think you can't help 729 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: but love what his movement was. You know, he's a 730 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: dude that came because he wasn't necessarily the best rapper 731 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: in the world, but just his hustle and his driving, 732 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: his determination kind of makes you want to want see 733 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: the motherfucker win. You know what I'm saying, and he 734 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: did his ship. You know, I just think it was 735 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: a lot of um. I just think as far as 736 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: independence go, during that time, it was a lot of 737 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 1: great independent albums too that may not necessarily be worthy 738 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: of that top five spot or whatever like that. But 739 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: then something you may talk to somebody that's from Cleveland, Ohio, 740 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: from Detroit, Michigan, and they may swear, but down the 741 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: day the Dayton Family got the best gamester Rap album 742 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: of all time, and some of that ship may be 743 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: valid that they may have valid opinions. I think they 744 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: got valid points. But I think as far as now man, 745 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: I think that air makes that are so specialist that 746 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: people actually it was a method behind the madness. People 747 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: was actually talking about sit gamester Rap made some of 748 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: the best political statements and songs, you know what I'm saying, 749 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: Like Ice Cue with Black Career, You know what I'm saying, 750 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: A song that couldn't be made the day because it 751 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: would be mr It would be looked at as um 752 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: anti Semitic and all kinds of other stuff. You know 753 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: what I mean, Right, we would be looked at in 754 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: a certain way. But they actually made statements back then. 755 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: It just wasn't about senseless violence. It was all like 756 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 1: a method behind the madness. And today man versus today 757 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: to where you get a dude to sell like A said, 758 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: a million bricks, he is sell a million killer Grahams. 759 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: And he got away because his girlfriend was in there 760 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 1: at fans or whatever. He was sucking her or whatever. 761 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: He got away in the helicopter. He wait, you see 762 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying exactly like you're saying. Still, how many 763 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: damn helicopters are there in reality? Exactly? Man, So you 764 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: know you got motherfucker's But all these tales, and I 765 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: always remember that this is just entertainment at the end 766 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: of the day. It's entertainment. But I still think the 767 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: ship meant a little bit more back then. Well, I 768 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: think too. And eight let me ask you this eight 769 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: building off what's steel saying? I remember it seemed to 770 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: me and when I was starting to get into writing 771 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 1: and the interview artists, it also seemed like the things 772 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: switched from being great or being respected for your work 773 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: too in the mid to late nineties, I think it 774 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,959 Speaker 1: changed into the quote unquote the hustle or I'm gonna 775 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: get paid off of this. Did you see a switch 776 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: yourself artistically, of course it is, but I want to 777 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: see from eight from the artistic side what he saw 778 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: as his career progressed of that if at all. Um, 779 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: Basically it started the era of you know, like you said, 780 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: it started that era of I'm a hustler, Um, I'm 781 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna get mine. Um. It changed to more 782 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: of about you know, what I can gather as far 783 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: as you know, uh, the glitz and glamor of hip hop. 784 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: You get me. Uh, Nigga started to speak more on 785 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: their wealth and and the ship that they could accumulate 786 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 1: as to when I first started, Uh, it was more 787 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: about your lyricism and if you can capture niggas with 788 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: your word play and what you had to say, you 789 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: get me. Thus, niggas like fucking uh ice Q, and 790 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: then niggas like ll Ale or early Nads or you know, 791 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: just the whole rap scene in general. You know, Um, 792 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: you have to be respected for your four what you 793 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: brought as far as what you had to say to 794 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: a motherfucker you know, Um, you gotta tell me something 795 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: as to you know, that error changed them to more 796 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: of you know, uh, you know the glitch, the glamour, 797 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: the money, you know, the jury, the flossiness, the cars um. 798 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 1: To me, it just changed the aspect of of being 799 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: a truan see and it got away from um, you know, 800 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: trying to capture motherfucker's with songs. Asked too, let's just 801 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: do a lot of hookie ship and get people to 802 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: sing alone. And and and it was you know, not 803 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: to say that anything was bad with the hustle and 804 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: wanting to you know, show your wealth or whatever. But 805 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: I didn't come from that era to get me. I 806 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 1: came from the era of being humble and just trying 807 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: to get on and trying to make a way of 808 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: getting out of the hood because of of of the 809 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: mishaps of which you might fall into. You get me 810 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: going to prison, getting killed, you know, mama struggling, you 811 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,479 Speaker 1: got you know, baby mama, and ship like that. So 812 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: it was more about us trying to express what was 813 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: going on with us in the neighborhoods and trying to 814 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: make a way out of being stuck in fucking shit. 815 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 1: You get me as opposed to no, I'm a rapper 816 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: about nigga, you know, I'm a rapper about my lexus 817 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: in my chain and my bank account and you know, 818 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: you know what I bought today and ship like that. 819 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: So it just changed a little bit of the dynamic 820 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: of hip hop for us who were brought up on 821 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: You know, nigga, you you got a rap to get 822 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: in this ship you give me. I don't give a 823 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: funk about how much money you've got for you. You 824 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: better know how to wrap or how you ain't gonna 825 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna make it. You feel me, So I'm 826 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: gonna tell you I love Mr P. I love Mr 827 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: P bought all these records, but openly that's why Master 828 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: people weren't around that long, because he wasn't as good 829 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: of a rapper, and that was his whole thing, Um 830 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: was I'm not a wrapper, I'm a hustle. And I 831 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: was cool with that. It was cool he could tell 832 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: you so off the p this is not no this 833 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: at all. That man made fool cool money. Mr Pe 834 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: made stupid money, and he paid the way for a 835 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: lot of other people to have careers. He was a 836 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: great businessman. Even today he's still making moves. Mass be 837 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: up there and everything from corn flakes, shoes cereal dog 838 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: like hustler, Donna hustle, right, my nigga know how to 839 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: hustle the games, and I don't think he was ever 840 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: on the on the motherfucking uh, the assumption of I'm 841 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a fucking ice cube or a fucking Tupac. 842 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: You didn't know, motherfucker, where I'm from. We got certain 843 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: phrases and certain ways we do ship, certain ways we hustle, 844 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: and I'm a motherfucking I'm gonna serve that you get me. 845 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna serve up with my people like and he 846 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: knew you get me. It was smart because ain't nobody 847 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: was pushing for what they was doing, and he decided, 848 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: fuck that, I'm gonna push my own ship. You feel me, 849 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: and I'm and no, I ain't. I ain't gotta be 850 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: the best motherfucking lyricists. He made away because it's all 851 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of motherfucker's that's selling a lot of records dogs, 852 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: not just like Gucci man. You got cats like Gucci man. 853 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: You got a whole bunch of these motherfucker's that's out there. 854 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: Made a lot of money. They sell the records. I'm 855 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Some of the records is jamming everything 856 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: I know. The cater to my customers that's the hustle mentality. 857 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: Cater to your customers and then let everybody else fall along. 858 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna serve up my customers what they want 859 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: from where I'm from, and then that's just just gonna 860 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: fluctuate to other motherfucking places. You get me, because eventually 861 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna like my ship or whoever whoever. They're gonna 862 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: take my ship over here, and somebody over there gonna 863 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 1: like it, and then one person over here gonna take 864 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: my ship. But right now, I'm gonna concentrate and cater 865 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: to my customers. You get me. And that's how I'm 866 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna build my foundation by supporting my customers. And that's 867 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: how the niggas got to win. They didn't worry about 868 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,720 Speaker 1: the niggas who felt like you gotta be a lyrical 869 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: genius or whatever, because where I'm from, the niggas talk 870 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: like this and they hustle like this. So let me 871 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: cater to them and bring and push that ship, and 872 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: then everything else will follow. And it did, it did, 873 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: It definitely did. And that's why I too remember two 874 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: with Master P. I think he was one of He 875 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: wasn't the first, but I remember he did it on 876 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: every album, and on several songs. Remember at the end 877 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: of the songs he shout out since each shout out 878 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: like fifty cities, and he shouted out the cities that 879 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: didn't get didn't have either a big rap scene or 880 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: that is being c markets. So like, you know, I'm 881 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: shouting out Louis, I'm shouting out Cincinnati. I'm shouting out exactly, 882 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: shouting out loss of Vegas or whatever it was. But 883 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: he did that religiously and I think that really affected 884 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: people because I know in Ohio when I was in college, 885 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: that mattered to them so much because in Cincinnati they 886 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: didn't have that big rap scene. You know. So when 887 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,479 Speaker 1: someone's shouting out with Cincinnati, Ohio on a song, whoa 888 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: what is this? Let me ride with this dude? And 889 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: it worked. Yeah, it work big time. And you know 890 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: somebody else and I ain't trying to get too much 891 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: off your list. But we talked about quality, right lyricism 892 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: and beat selection and all that stuff that just goes 893 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: into making a great artist, right because at the end 894 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: of the day, it was entertainment. You know. It's just 895 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: like if Ronald Schwartz and I could go out and 896 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: shoot fifty people in the movie. We don't believe that 897 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: movie was real. It was just great entertainment for that 898 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: hour or two hours we was in the theater. Right, 899 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: So you look at a cat like Rick Ross, for example, 900 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 1: Rick Ross is a bad motherfucker. He's a bad boy, 901 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: dope as lyrics, got prop possibly top five as far 902 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: as beat selection, as far as you know, crafting songs 903 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: and putting stuff together. Ross makes some fireship. But is 904 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: it believable or is it even about that? It was 905 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: it just you know, because it's all entertainment and I'm 906 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: not knocking them, but I'm just asking that question is 907 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: should we judge these artists on basis of them being 908 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: how authentic they are or are they making the best 909 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: piece of art? Well, um, I mean to me, this 910 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: makes sense what I'm saying. I mean, I get what 911 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you I mean. But it 912 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: all is, it's all in the imagination of what a 913 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: motherfucker feel he wants to do with making a song. 914 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: Because I don't necessarily have to be speaking on me, 915 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: you get me. I could just be making this song 916 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,479 Speaker 1: in general, because this is the perception I get from 917 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: what I see or what I spee over that happens. 918 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 1: You get me, uh am I the nigga shipping thirty 919 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: keys across the motherfuckering whatever I could be or I 920 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: could not be, you get me. But the perception is, 921 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 1: this is the song that I want to make because 922 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 1: I know a lot of motherfucker's bill in that area. 923 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: You get me. There's a lot of niggas on the 924 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: streets who knows what I'm speaking on and if I 925 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: want to have treat credibility, because that's the direction I'm 926 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: going with my music and my image. I'm not going, 927 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 1: uh you know, I'm not going to common route or 928 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: the tribe called quest route or the L. L. Cool 929 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 1: J Route. I'm going the route of the inner city 930 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: nigga coming from poverty who have hustled his way up 931 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: to whatever. So this could be the perception, Like I said, 932 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: could it beat me? You never know. But what I'm 933 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: trying to do is I'm just trying to make a 934 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: song and paying the story for niggas that might be 935 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,240 Speaker 1: in this ship or niggas who feel they like music. 936 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: Who tells stories of the hustler, the nigga who balling, 937 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: the nigga who got a hundred bitches. You're getting me in, 938 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: you know, so you you can't perceive sit just like 939 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: you said with a movie. And I know people uh 940 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,439 Speaker 1: tend to hold us to credibility a little more when 941 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: speaking on records or the perception with videos or you're 942 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: saying that you this person. People hold us to that 943 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: standard because we're making records, right, because when you're get 944 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: in the studio and you're talking about you know, you know, 945 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,240 Speaker 1: I pull out the the I pull out the pistol 946 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: and a blasts and nigga and I'm miss and I'm not. 947 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: That's the perception how that you've given off to the people, 948 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: to the that's the perception you given off. That's an 949 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: important point eight. And I think that's the difference is 950 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: that name any actor or actress you want when they're done, 951 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: they're acting, and the differences that think and the problem 952 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: is in rap, a lot of the rappers, not all 953 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: of the courts, have always said I this is my life, 954 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: this is me and then when they rap about it, 955 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: then they don't want to be accountable for it because 956 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 1: but wait, it's just a song. Well no, you can't 957 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 1: say this is all real and this is what I've 958 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: done and then run from it. Because you know, Christian 959 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: Belle isn't saying I'm Batman after exactly, He's not saying 960 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: I jumped off these buildings and beat up the joker 961 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: and didn't like No, he's an actor. So like when 962 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: you hear a rapper, that's the difference. If the rapper 963 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: just said, like what Ah just said. Again, they might 964 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: not listen to what eight said, but at least eight 965 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: seven and the differences all these street dudes real or 966 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: imagined they are in this business of saying, like so 967 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 1: many popular rappers now that have been in the game 968 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: for a decade plus still rapping about selling thirty kilos 969 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: a month, I'm like, dude, you would be incarcerated seventeen 970 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,959 Speaker 1: times over like no way and that in this ain't 971 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: in no way of not towards if you're making the 972 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: one to answer that right quick though. That's why I 973 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: say it's a It's a line between presenting your ship 974 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: as as as music you get me, or or presenting 975 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 1: your ship as yeah, I'm I'm the biggest boss and 976 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: and I'm the hardest street killer, or like nigger I 977 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: pulled up on the ops and I shot a nigger. 978 00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: You get me now? Now you got that perception from 979 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:08,240 Speaker 1: the streets. Okay, okay, you oh you got that. Okay, 980 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: because new niggas don't want to just make music you 981 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: give me, or you don't want to hypothetically say in 982 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,879 Speaker 1: this record you get me. Oh Johnny did this or 983 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 1: Frank did this? You want to be Frank or Johnny. Right, 984 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: So now that's the pitfalls of Now you see why 985 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 1: gang of motherfucker's is falling into a gang of bullshit nowadays, 986 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: because oh, that's what you wanna be. You're saying you're 987 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: the hardest nigga and use the fucking you're the fucking 988 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: killer and you're the biggest cheelo drug dealer. Okay, no problem. 989 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: Now we either gonna come Now, we're either gonna come 990 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: checking your door, uh, try to take your ship, or 991 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna you know, that's the situation and the line 992 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:04,879 Speaker 1: between trying to just make me music for people to enjoy. Well, 993 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 1: like they say, I was a storyteller, Yeah, I'm gonna 994 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: telling your story. I'm not saying that's me. I'm just 995 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 1: telling you a story. I'm not saying eight jumped out 996 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: the motherfucking I'm just hypothetically saying this might happen. You 997 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: never see me say yeah, nigga, I jumped out the 998 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: bushes with the h A and are killing niggas and 999 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: whatever whatever, Because that's the difference between the days of 1000 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: when I told stories as to now. It seems like 1001 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: when niggas make records, they want to glorify this position 1002 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: or you know, they want to glorify the the craziness 1003 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: of of what we used to try to keep silent. 1004 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: You give me how all motherfucker's know that I'm selling 1005 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: thirty keys? I don't want you to give me. It's 1006 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: like that John Gotti complex, Like I gotta let the 1007 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: motherfucking know, like this is me type ship, like when 1008 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be quiet about ship. But I guess 1009 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: that's the world of of of the difference of of 1010 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, trying to make just music and songs for 1011 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: people and then giving people to present perception that you 1012 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: want to be a you know, a killer or a 1013 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: drug dealer or you get me yeah, and you know, 1014 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,919 Speaker 1: and put that out there to clarify something I said 1015 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: about Ross. The type of music Ross makes is South 1016 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: Miami music and the area where he comes from. You know, 1017 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: he's an eighties later eighties nineties guy, it was all 1018 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: kind of dope deep boys down there. So I'm pretty 1019 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: sure he's speaking of the experience of seeing all that 1020 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: he saw down there, and he probably hustled a little bit, 1021 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: probably hustled a lot. We don't know. Like he said, 1022 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: he could have been a man down there for all 1023 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 1: we know. But to the average here just listening to 1024 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: that stuff, it just seems so far affected that we 1025 00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: always have to remember. I do think that it deals 1026 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: in the team because it is far fast. She doesn't 1027 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: know the real noriega. Come on, come on, come on ahead, 1028 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: come so, I come on, man. But that was a 1029 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: hard ass line. You gotta be. But but I guess 1030 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: you would have to. I guess you would have to. Uh, 1031 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: you know how, Like you said, movies now they make 1032 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,439 Speaker 1: movies that they go they are based off of true stories, right, 1033 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 1: and then there's movies like you said, when you see 1034 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: a motherfucking jump out, you see it. They can jump 1035 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: off for the building and land on his feet and 1036 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 1: kill up every alien and ship not leave with a scratch. Right, 1037 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: You have to differentiate the truth from from the hypothetical 1038 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 1: and what you sit up there and go like, man, 1039 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: my nigga said, you know the real Noriega. What you like? 1040 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: What you even contemplate that? Like? Man, he said, you 1041 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: know the real Noriega. Man, know the real norriea At 1042 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: And still my favorite movie. My favorite movie is Hollywood Shuffle. 1043 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all remember the movie. So y'all 1044 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: remember this exactly what it is saying. You remember when 1045 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: they did sneaking in the movies and they had the 1046 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Chicago Jones playing off Indiana Jones and the ed to 1047 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: the cliff and they jump off the cliff and when 1048 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: they land him and his girl, he's like, yo, you're okay. 1049 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, just to run in my stockings and 1050 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: they just jump off a cliff. That's my favorite movie. 1051 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: So you got you as a as a man, you 1052 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,919 Speaker 1: just got to like, you gotta really just sit there 1053 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: and analyze and be like, Okay, that's that's that's clever 1054 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: ship to say. And you just have to take it 1055 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: from there because it's been entertainment, you know, it's it's 1056 01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 1: it's for it's for for nigga telling street tales and 1057 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: for a lot of niggas who know the real Noriega 1058 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: and what was behind the real Noriega. That that's a 1059 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: that's a good ass rap line for a nigga. You 1060 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: get me to say that I'm a hustler and I 1061 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: know the real Noriega because everybody knows the story behind Noriega. 1062 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: You get me if you don't watch the all the 1063 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: drug documentaries are all the tales of the government and 1064 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 1: the drugs and all that, you know, Noriega was significant. 1065 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: So for rat nigga who speaking from the aspect that 1066 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I come from the hustle game, you get me saying 1067 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: a line like Nigga, Nigga, I know the I know Noriega. 1068 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Nigga that the all this nigga this thing? Did he 1069 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: know the real Noriega? This nigga getting bookoo dope, you 1070 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: get that's what's that. As an average ask nigga who 1071 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: popping in his CD, spent to it and he owned 1072 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the streets hustling, he gonna be like, Yeah, that nigga, 1073 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 1: that dash you get me, and that's the effect won't 1074 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: have you get me? He won't that effect on the 1075 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: nigga who out on the block every day hustling his 1076 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: packs and ship making his money from that, and the 1077 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 1: nigga go nigga, I'm hustling nigga. I know the real 1078 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Noriaga nigga. He know he owed me a hundred favors. Hey, 1079 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: you know the first thing they're gonna say though, really 1080 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: like because he already speaking in the tons of I'm 1081 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 1: the hustler nigga. Nigga, I nigga, I know about key 1082 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: lows and work and all that. So when the nigga 1083 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 1: dot nigga, I know the real noriaga nigga, nigga owed 1084 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: me a hunted favors. That making nigga go, who for 1085 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: real nigga? That nigga danger? Did you get me to 1086 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: an average? And that's just a nigga listening to a song. 1087 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: That's the effect he wanted them to half exactly. And 1088 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: you know what the thing about that he was like 1089 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: when Ross had that beet with fifty cent, you know what, 1090 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: fifty couldn't pull it off over on him. Ross's music 1091 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: was immaculate. Regardless of what you said about everything, all 1092 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: the other ship that came back to the music, Ross 1093 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 1: was making way better music than Like I said, Man, 1094 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, when you in this game of hip ho 1095 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 1: hop whatever, um, you know, you gotta be able to 1096 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: craft music. You get me. It's just not about just 1097 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: rapping and shipped and throwing down a record and whatever. 1098 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to craft songs and music. And 1099 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's fortunate that you know a lot of 1100 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 1: artists who have came along, you know, like Ross, like 1101 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, Snoop fifty Cube. You know, they have been 1102 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: able to climb to up songs that are ever lasting, 1103 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, not just over, you know, not just put 1104 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: out some ship that nigger here today and go on tomorrow. 1105 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: And so that's what that's what the nature of of 1106 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: hip hop and being great for to be in this ship, 1107 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: you have to be able to make ship like that 1108 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 1: that's decades, you know, lasting. You did me, not just 1109 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 1: to fly by night ship. So before we get out 1110 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: of your dog, because we enjoyed this conversation so much, 1111 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: we don't miss running rent at the time. Top five albums, though, 1112 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I'm gonna do my ship like this, 1113 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: my top five what were we doing? Gangster ships? Streak 1114 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Ship affected the streets. I'm gonna do this like this, 1115 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: the top five artists that affected streat Ship to me, 1116 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go school e D. I'm gonna go easy. 1117 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Totty T and I'm gonna go um 1118 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: k RST and Scott lar Rock, criminal minded, great fucking 1119 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: lists and great list, all those things, all those boar. 1120 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 1: And that's as far as my introduction to street ship. 1121 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: That's what I heard. You get me. I heard PSK 1122 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 1: banging in every hood nigga card on in l A 1123 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 1: from here to fucking New York. Okay, you heard motherfucking 1124 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 1: criminal minded South Bronx banging. That was some hood ship 1125 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: to me. You get me. Um, So those are niggas 1126 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Totty t on the West coast. As far as gangster ship, 1127 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: the batter Ram, you know, Totty t is is the 1128 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: one who introduced niggas to making street records because he 1129 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 1: used to put out T d K tapes and he 1130 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 1: used to wrap over all the motherfucking the whod need 1131 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 1: if it was who d e be? If it was 1132 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 1: fucking uh, He had a motherfucking The battle round was 1133 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: off of remember Wrapping Duke. Remember the Wrapping Dukes single. 1134 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 1: That was the first battle round. It was on a 1135 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: T d K tape and Tydt wrapped the battle raum 1136 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 1: off a wrapping Duke you give me, and that tape 1137 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: just floated around content He had all of like everything 1138 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: that was going on in the neighborhoods before Easy, before 1139 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 1: any street motherfucker I knew about. It was Todd Mixed Master, Spain, 1140 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 1: d J M. Wall all in Niggas. They had t 1141 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 1: D capes folding around and it was just nothing but 1142 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: hood tales. Everything was about Darryl Gates and the L 1143 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: A p D And the drug raids and and and 1144 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: the Clucks coming out at night and how they were 1145 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: serving in Track Park and all of your like freaks 1146 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,040 Speaker 1: come out that night. Day song was called the Clucks 1147 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: come out that night and they talked about how they 1148 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 1: were serving in trig New Park and blah blah blah. 1149 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, it was extraordinary to me as a twelve 1150 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 1: year old kid walking around ride my bike in the 1151 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 1: streets to Compton, and then you go to the hood 1152 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 1: and Nigga's banging his motherfucking tape on his boom box 1153 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 1: and you got this nigga wrapping over the little You 1154 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 1: remember how they used to put the little echo on 1155 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 1: the ship back in the days and ship, so you 1156 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: got this nigga rapping about Nigga Nigga five Old came 1157 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: through last night. They raided and Gil Gates in the 1158 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: battle ram over here and Nigga I'm in the hood 1159 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 1: and they talked about your neighborhood. That was gangs. That 1160 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: was then instroduction of street shipped to me so you know. 1161 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 1: And then going over to the East coast Krst one 1162 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: because him in Scotland Rock with the bridges over in 1163 01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 1: South Bronx and poetry and criminal A did man. Then 1164 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: I had the poetry single Man and I thought that 1165 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 1: was the I thought that was the greatest ship ever made, 1166 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: like just all these niggas, it's on some different ship. 1167 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: You get me. That's what I first thought. But but 1168 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: then he has had the album cover with the guns 1169 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 1: and the ship, you know, and I'm like, oh, there's 1170 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: some gangster niggas. They was just from the East Coast. 1171 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,719 Speaker 1: So that was my introduction to the East Coast street 1172 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 1: ship you get me. So that's what that's what I say. 1173 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: That's my contribution. Yeah, man, hey, you close without and 1174 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 1: its intergretting you bring t t up because Todd, who 1175 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: don't do the interviews with nobody, has said he's coming 1176 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:46,560 Speaker 1: on the show. Oh that's good. Is an original, you 1177 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: get me. And for a lot of people who don't 1178 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 1: know about Todd, you know, he had the Battle Roum 1179 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 1: single that got picked up by Ethic that was on 1180 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: each first. But like I said, that ship started out 1181 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: on the tv K take wrapping off for Rapping Duke. 1182 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: That rapping Duke. That's where sucking the Battle round pains from. 1183 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 1: And a lot of people they go, they jumped to 1184 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 1: the easy eating you know, because easy had you know, 1185 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 1: the world without it wouldn't be no king. But when 1186 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 1: they come to Hampton, gangster rap and the motherfucking originality 1187 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 1: and the origin it started with Toddy t mixed Master 1188 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Spade and just telling the tales of like growing up 1189 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: in the hood, you get me. And so for every 1190 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: motherfucking nigga who was banging in Campton or l A, 1191 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 1: you had that fucking T d K taping. You had 1192 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 1: that tape and you had them strongs. What they was 1193 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:57,599 Speaker 1: talking about, the hoods, the selling dope, they was talking about, 1194 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 1: the hood rats and the straw b areas, they were 1195 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,600 Speaker 1: talking about the clubheads. They basically was giving you a 1196 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 1: description of the city and what was going on before 1197 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 1: Nigga's even made it to whack you give me, So 1198 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 1: you gotta give Todd his his problems? Are you real quick? 1199 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 1: You almost have to say you can almost say that 1200 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:25,439 Speaker 1: T d T and Mixed Masters fade recipes are the 1201 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,760 Speaker 1: godfathers a rap in coming. Now. If now nigga's gonna 1202 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 1: dispute that, it was probably you know niggas who was 1203 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: putting out ship before them. But to me, that's my 1204 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 1: significance of dankster rap and my introduction to uh, you know, 1205 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 1: neighborhoods and writing on wax. Like I said, because we 1206 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 1: was just little young niggas, you get me. We were 1207 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 1: just little young niggas riding on our bikes in the 1208 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 1: hood whatever. Nobody was talking about what was going on, 1209 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,599 Speaker 1: you get me ship that we were seeing on the regular. 1210 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Because it was the ship that was going on. We 1211 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,719 Speaker 1: didn't think that was, you know, important enough for people 1212 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 1: to know about nigga. We was getting ship every night, 1213 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 1: that's not new. Niggas was getting blasted on every night 1214 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: and ye have niggas was selling crack pieces that if 1215 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 1: you want to be you get me. So we never 1216 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 1: looked at that ship like. But when Todd put it 1217 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 1: on record and he started, you know it laid niggas 1218 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 1: feel like, oh yeah, you know Ship. This is significant 1219 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: because now people will get to know about really what's 1220 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: going on. And that's just to me how the introduction 1221 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 1: of our gangster ship from Compton started. Like, I don't 1222 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 1: know who was before Todd. It could have been a 1223 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 1: plenty of few and or who knows, But to me 1224 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 1: as an eleven twilve year old, thirteen year old kid, 1225 01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 1: you get me, uh, coming out of that air of 1226 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 1: being a kid, you know, watching cartoons on Saturdays and 1227 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 1: ship like that too, you know, being in the backyard 1228 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,679 Speaker 1: with niggas and they got douce deuces and niggas got 1229 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 1: forty ounces and you got a nigger on the boom 1230 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 1: box blast and Toddy t talking about watch out for 1231 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 1: the battle ram and you know, nigga's gonna come through 1232 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,719 Speaker 1: blasting and you know this how you serve a nigga 1233 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 1: and watch out for the one time and the clucks 1234 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: and on that. That was my mother's sucking introduction to 1235 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 1: the hood. Well, I would say, man, you know, even 1236 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 1: if it was somebody before time, they wasn't didn't had 1237 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: a significance yet, So to me, Todd is the godfather 1238 01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: always recognized lin I said no disrespect to no other 1239 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 1: nigga or whatever. You know, Easy was very significant and 1240 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 1: I always, like I said, we want Easy album was 1241 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 1: very significant to you know coming up. Uh, but Totty 1242 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: t was you know, and and eight like we've been 1243 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: saying this whole show. Don't also had just say no 1244 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 1: something exactly. It was always it was yeah, he could 1245 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 1: tell you I'm serving, but he was also telling you. 1246 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: Darrel Gates was coming with that battle ram you did me. 1247 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: There was no fucking positive I don't look like you 1248 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 1: get me. But then I'm gonna tell you just say 1249 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: no too. And on all that ship. Then I had 1250 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 1: songs like do you want to go to the liquor 1251 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,959 Speaker 1: store and party jams and you give me? So everything 1252 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 1: wasn't always negativity, but we still got to give you 1253 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 1: that descriptive ship. You get me because like you said, 1254 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,799 Speaker 1: so my nigga told you about how we were serving 1255 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: and selling. But then at the end he say, what 1256 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: just say no to drugs because look what the funk 1257 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: it do to you? You give me and turn you 1258 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 1: into a cluckhead and funked up your family or at 1259 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day, maybe you're going to do thirty. 1260 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 1: You get me, you're going to do thirty in the beds, 1261 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,599 Speaker 1: So just say no at the end of the day 1262 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 1: and then you'll be like still looking at the tower. Well, man, 1263 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 1: we on that note. Man, we gonna shut it down. Man, 1264 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: we appreciate you, guys. Tune me and man, remember, subscribe 1265 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,679 Speaker 1: to the new channel. Subscribe to the new channel. Follow 1266 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 1: us on our social media platforms. We're all trying to again, staring, 1267 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 1: trying to get popping. Like eight eight got the million 1268 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 1: million followers and all that ship in the blue, and 1269 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 1: then I ain't bought no boxing, no motherfucking followers. So nigga, 1270 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: my ships is all authentic. I ain't paid for none. 1271 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 1: So Eight's still on eights, still on the load with 1272 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,719 Speaker 1: the followers and ship. You see niggas with thirty million 1273 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 1: followers and eighty million followers. Man, I know you come followed, 1274 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 1: but we don't do the boxing, we don't do the 1275 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 1: pain for ship and none of that. We're trying to 1276 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 1: keep it authentic here. Hey, I think they know the 1277 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 1: real Noriega, right, Yeah, don't want to know the real Noriega. 1278 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,559 Speaker 1: They got a billion followers, man, not not me. I'm 1279 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 1: just a simplified their The man keep ussemming for sure 1280 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: when we out of here at peace, chill H.