WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Previewing The 2022 NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Mick

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<v Speaker 1>shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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<v Speaker 1>official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola. Oh what a big day? This is?

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<v Speaker 1>How big of a day is it? Mickey Spagnola, Baseball's

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<v Speaker 1>opening tiger teed off this morning and and he parked

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<v Speaker 1>the first hole he did. He did it that And

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<v Speaker 1>we are now how many weeks away? Three? Three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>away from day one of the twenty twenty two National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League Draft. This is Mick Shots. Bill Jones on

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<v Speaker 1>the line, you take it too long? Bill? Whose voice is, hey, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not here, you're you're your third out of mind?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right? Who is that? Bill Jones? Mickey Spagnola inside

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<v Speaker 1>the s WBC podcast studio and on the s WBC

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<v Speaker 1>phone line is Everson Walls. Hello, you know you mis me?

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<v Speaker 1>You know you missed me. I miss you guys too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say it, man, I'm man enough to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I had stuff for you, but now I

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<v Speaker 1>got to keep it for another week. Oh cool. Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You can stew on that, you can grant when I

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<v Speaker 1>get back. No, you're gonna stew on it because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not telling you what I had for you. It's but

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<v Speaker 1>I have something for Bill. By the way, we have

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<v Speaker 1>our Dallas Cowboys Official twenty twenty two Draft Guide. You

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<v Speaker 1>think there's more information inside than the Green Green, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to find out. You don't have any pictures

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<v Speaker 1>in your No, there's no no pictures in my big

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<v Speaker 1>green notebook. Yeah, but his handwriting is way better than

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<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna be reading in print. I don't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem. That's why the Big Green Notebook cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be published. I'm the only person who can read the

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<v Speaker 1>handwriting inside it. So some type of a William hieroglyphics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right, that's exactly right. So it's the

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<v Speaker 1>official twenty twenty two Dallas Cowboys Draft Guide right here.

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<v Speaker 1>And where can we find these drafts? Well, you would ask, ye,

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<v Speaker 1>got that information somewhere here in all my notes. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So if you would like one, Uh, you can find

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<v Speaker 1>the direct link for the digital issue. Uh boy, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a long deal. You can go to twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>Draft guide. It seems long. I mean, come on, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>So you can get it on email, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and on the web. And he comes up as b

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<v Speaker 1>I dot l y slash twenty twenty two draft guide.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you it was involved. Okay, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>do that? All right? So our visit Dallas Cowboys dot

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<v Speaker 1>com slash star. Okay, Mickey's had his time ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>How are things going with you? Everything is great, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been extremely busy, and I think also I

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<v Speaker 1>almost thought I had, as the young people say, the VID,

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<v Speaker 1>the vid. Yes, that's what they called. You got the VID? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not. But now I actually took the test

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. I was kind of nervous though I had

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<v Speaker 1>been down for the cow far about a week strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, so much better. Nown back on the

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<v Speaker 1>road and take care of it. All right, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you, Mickey? I'm good, rare to go, rare

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<v Speaker 1>to go, twenty one days away from that. Excited about

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<v Speaker 1>all these moves that are happening here behind the scenes. Yeah. Absolutely. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the visits started this week, that's right. Uh. They did

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Day on Friday, and this week they started

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<v Speaker 1>their thirty National Visits. Guys been coming in daily, so

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<v Speaker 1>have you I've been able to eyeball any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, whatever they're doing, it's inside the Ford Center

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<v Speaker 1>or it's in the other wing over there. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're allowed on the other side. You need to go

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<v Speaker 1>just walk around and see. Yeah, well you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I had, but you have you haven't looked inside the

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<v Speaker 1>big green notebook, and so you wouldn't know anybody if

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<v Speaker 1>you saw anyway, right, I don't know they have the pictures. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't walk around with the d That's what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the pictures are for. In the draft guide.

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey's walking around the Star with this week with this

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<v Speaker 1>draft guide, and he's trying to match up pictures. There's

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Burkes, wide receiver Arkansas. There he is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Fag used to really be the in the know. He's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gotten demoted, you know, as the cowboy picking

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<v Speaker 1>or the concerned. So he's just like sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>outside there. William h starting to get in. It's okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, Well, what do you want to know. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got twenty one names here that are supposed to visit

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<v Speaker 1>or have visited Oh, well, what do you You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what you can tell what I have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>tell buy those names in the past, because there have

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<v Speaker 1>been years where the Cowboys don't draft off those visits,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are a number of years where they have

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<v Speaker 1>drafted players who visited. Uh, I kind of look at

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I haven't gone back and researched

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<v Speaker 1>it to see if after the fact, if this is

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<v Speaker 1>the way the draft played out for but you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get a feel for positions that they might

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<v Speaker 1>be looking at, which at what at what time during

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. You know, because a lot of those wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers that they've had in here our first round prospects,

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<v Speaker 1>which tells you that they could draft a wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round in that right, So you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>they don't necessarily lean towards a particular position of who

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<v Speaker 1>comes to visit, you know, I'm saying they you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get a feel that what they're thinking pre drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>It all changes once once the draft starts and your

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<v Speaker 1>guy gets taken in the first round. Uh. You know, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you've got a number of wide receivers that

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<v Speaker 1>are projected as first or second round picks, who are

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<v Speaker 1>making visits. Then you got a pretty good feel that

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<v Speaker 1>they if they like those guys and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that come to visit their question marks about him,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the reason they brought them in for visits.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to find out more about him. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>that necessarily that they liked the guy. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>that they've got He's a suspect as much as a prospect,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can know. So what you're trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben William here on mix shot is that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are looking to draft the wide receivers. Are we going

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<v Speaker 1>public with that right now? That you're saying, well, they

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<v Speaker 1>need to. You know when they went public with that

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<v Speaker 1>when they led him Cooper went to Brown. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you that two weeks ago, and you kept

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<v Speaker 1>wanting an offensive guard. I'm sticking to that, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So here, this is an unofficial list, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>projecting guys that either we're going to visit or have visited.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got three wide receivers coming in and this is

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<v Speaker 1>only twenty one of the thirty. They can bring in

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<v Speaker 1>three wide receivers, three defensive tackles, two guards, a center,

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<v Speaker 1>and three tight ends by the way one offensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're announcing they need a tied in. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they already said they needed. They also announced that they

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<v Speaker 1>need a kicker Blake Jarwin. Blake Jarwin got hurt and

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<v Speaker 1>then Blake Jarwin got released, and so I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty easy. There are no surprises on this list. No,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at positions speaking, all you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do is just follow along with who's left the team

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<v Speaker 1>and look at my shopping list, and there are vacancies

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<v Speaker 1>shot there products that still need to be purchased. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a little bit of a research here and

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<v Speaker 1>went and looked in the NFL where the money is

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<v Speaker 1>going per position? Okay, And I've always said in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>if you need answers, you follow the money, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so they had. I saw a list the average pay

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<v Speaker 1>of the top five guys at certain positions. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the highest paid position is quarterback, right, Well, the next

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<v Speaker 1>highest paid position wide receiver. So in the pecking order

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<v Speaker 1>of importance, the NFL teams think that the wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>position is worth spending the next amount of money on

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<v Speaker 1>average salary. When did you do your research the other day?

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<v Speaker 1>The other day? So it wasn't yesterday after Stefon Diggs

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<v Speaker 1>signed his contry. Well, I think was already in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Stefan was already in there. Yes, okay, twenty six million

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<v Speaker 1>and this was what there basis. I was just gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was done before Stefan Diggs agreed to his

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<v Speaker 1>contract extension, the money for wide receivers just went up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is this is what their average of their

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<v Speaker 1>contracts is. Okay, and the top five receivers Tyree Kill, Hopkins, Digs,

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Julio, Julio, Julio Jones. Uh, and my handwriting so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't read what the other one is? Twenty eight million?

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have that? Oh? Um, come on, hey, he's

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<v Speaker 1>making twenty eight million a year. Who did you mention? Hill, Hopkins, Digs,

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<v Speaker 1>Julio Jones, Adams and Adams. I can read your legal pan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even looking at their average average their average

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<v Speaker 1>salaries together the five twenty six point seven million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the most most expensive to lease, the way

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<v Speaker 1>you most expensive. DeVante went from the record breakers right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll topped them and then yeah, he's been topped

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. That's my point. Yeah, he's been topped like

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<v Speaker 1>four more times. Whoever signs last usually tops, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then if from Stefan's not on that list, no, Diggs,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh you did say you did say twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six million a year? All right, So so that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that is extremely revealing. I've really I'm kind of surprised

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<v Speaker 1>about that and so disappointed. Got well, running back is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be now back? Are they just gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like deal, go kickers? You know what I mean? I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even bother them. Okay, but let's look at that, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because I need to. And the next two, the next

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<v Speaker 1>two offensive tackles they have twenty one point four million

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<v Speaker 1>the top five, and defensive vans twenty one million, guards

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen point two million. And this can tell you right now, five,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you right now, the only thing cheaper than

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<v Speaker 1>the running back is going to be defensive back. What

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<v Speaker 1>do I tell you? How much do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>bet it's gonna be running back to the bottom. And

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<v Speaker 1>defensive backs on top of running back, cornerbacks are around

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen okay, nineteen million the top five top So that

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<v Speaker 1>just gives you a little bit of idea of who's

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid in this league. Well, and it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>on the Diggs contract, with the amount of money they're

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<v Speaker 1>paying for the wide receiver, they've already dealt the money

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<v Speaker 1>for Josh Allen, the quarterback whose cap hit this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I just called it up. He's at thirty nine million

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<v Speaker 1>this year, forty one million next year, fifty one million

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<v Speaker 1>the following year. Are his cap hits on his contract

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<v Speaker 1>that he signed. Right, Davante Adams is with a veteran

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback who doesn't make that money with that car now,

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<v Speaker 1>but he Green Bay could not keep him because of

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of money they're paying their quarterback, Tyreek Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City got rid of him because they've got two,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, salary cap issues themselves, and he was towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of his deal. And so you're either you're

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<v Speaker 1>making on a lot of these teams, you're making choices. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo has made a choice. They're gonna go ahead. They're

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<v Speaker 1>paying their quarterback and they're paying wide receiver top dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're going to take away from some other position

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. Okay, Kansas City has made a decision

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<v Speaker 1>where they got their quarterback, They're gonna do whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>can at wide receiver, and they're paying They're playing Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Jones a ton of money defensive tackle and others on

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<v Speaker 1>their team, and so you can't pay every position top dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>So the top five quarterbacks their average their contracts Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million, Watson forty six, Mahomes forty five, Alan forty three,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dak Prescott forty And the only one of those

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks who has a wide receiver on that list is

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<v Speaker 1>josh Allen Buffalo. I was just gonna say that it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like all of them had to sacrifice someone for that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, which which then explains why the Cowboys made

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<v Speaker 1>the decision they made on Amari Cooper. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they they got to be right on this that

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty million or the sixteen million they gained on

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<v Speaker 1>the cap was more important than having Amari Cooper back

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<v Speaker 1>on the team. So they made they made to me,

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<v Speaker 1>they made a talent evaluation that his base salary exceeded

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<v Speaker 1>what his production is projected to be in their eyes. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they got to be right because now they got to

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<v Speaker 1>replace him. And that's why I keep saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in either first or second round, got to have a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver, because right now, who are your top three?

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<v Speaker 1>Assuming Gallop misses the first two three four games. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me let's I'll throw this out at you two and Everson.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the wide receiver room and we're Cede Lamb. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the players that were in that wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver room last year, I'm ARII Cooper obviously the veteran guy.

0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.200
<v Speaker 1>He's the leader of that group. Ceedee Lamb in his

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<v Speaker 1>second year last year, Michael Gallop in his fourth year.

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<v Speaker 1>And just knowing the personalities involved there, Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>who when you project forward this coming season in the

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<v Speaker 1>next year, who is the leader of that Who would

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<v Speaker 1>who would have been the leader of that locker room

0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.560
<v Speaker 1>or of that room, the wide receiver room one more

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<v Speaker 1>time today, Like if they'd kept a mari Cooper. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if they'd kept a Mariy Cooper in that room, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's as long as he's with the team, he's still

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<v Speaker 1>the leader of that group. Correct. Okay, if it kept Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Ceedee Lamb, you got Michael Gallup. Okay, where

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<v Speaker 1>were the projections as far as growth, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>being a leader on the team for a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Ceedee Lamb or for a guy like Michael Gallup, and

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<v Speaker 1>is that growth stunted if you have I'm talking away

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<v Speaker 1>from Obviously the number one thing is the production on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, but there are some other intangibles that go

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<v Speaker 1>into this too, in the making of the culture of

0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:54.320
<v Speaker 1>your football team. And I don't know that necessarily you

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<v Speaker 1>don't see very many teams that have two wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>that are the lead dogs. You know, they're there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lead dog in a wide receiver room. You know. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean in the room or on the field. I

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<v Speaker 1>got disagree, God disagree. Look at Tampa before god one

0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.400
<v Speaker 1>got hurt, right, And let's say, look at Tampa while

0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown was there as well. And I'm talking, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking as far as a leader, not not production, but

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<v Speaker 1>as this is the guy that's that's looked up to

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<v Speaker 1>in the room, as he sets the tone for the room. Well, initially,

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<v Speaker 1>before I heard whatever I've heard from this past season,

0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I would have said that Marty Cooper would have been

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be that silent leader and Ceedee Lamb, because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a lot more versatile, would be the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>he would just really uh let him take that load,

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<v Speaker 1>the verbal load you know what I mean, And I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, based on rumors, that's not how Cooper wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to play it. But before this past year, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have said, uh, CD would be easily being a guy

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Anna and from a personality standpoint, with Cooper gone,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that CD's got the personality to be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that everybody fouls. Michael Michael Gallup is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of quiet, right, and so just and I hadn't met

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. I just listened to his interview, But James

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<v Speaker 1>Washington might be the most veteran personality wise guy to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lead the room. If you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Gallop hardly played what two years in a row. At

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<v Speaker 1>least Washington has played off four years. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>now he's got to make his way. You're a newcomer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of mine your business until things start cooking

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But I just think CDs kind of he's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of quiet. He I can't remember who said it.

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<v Speaker 1>It might have been McCarthy said, we got the quietest

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver room I've ever been around. Me. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are just boisterous. Me me, me, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Would you have thought that about CD

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Um, Well, I think no, I understand where Mickey's

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<v Speaker 1>coming from on that. He's not He's not the Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Irvin type, you know, raw raw type guy. I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe. But I really thought that CD would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, coming up this year. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's where That's what I'm getting at, is maybe now

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<v Speaker 1>he can grow into that role, you know, more so

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<v Speaker 1>whereas before he's always going to um, he would follow,

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<v Speaker 1>follow whatever, you know, because because because Amari is the

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<v Speaker 1>leader in the room, because he's got the skins on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall. So I think I think his productivity and

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility is going to lead forward probably about another twenty

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you on that. And and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy pointed out that with Amari gone, his opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>are going to increase, and what they're hoping is the

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<v Speaker 1>production increases along with it. And by the way, what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done in his first two years, no other Cowboy

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver is done. If you look at the production,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of catches, he's got more catches in two

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<v Speaker 1>years than any other Cowboy receivers had in their first

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<v Speaker 1>two years. And that's that's after having a being part

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<v Speaker 1>of a squad that really, like you said, could you

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<v Speaker 1>always did doubt his potential of the target. And then

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<v Speaker 1>and the other point that McCarthy made is now he's

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<v Speaker 1>the flanker, which that's the position where normally the ball

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<v Speaker 1>was going to the first look and then the outside

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<v Speaker 1>guy and then the inside guy. And he played a

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<v Speaker 1>lot inside. Yeah, I also see a lot of him

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<v Speaker 1>in back in the backfield. Again, I think that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a steady diet of that in specially key situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to really pick up the usage

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<v Speaker 1>of him. I'll see you land. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>James Washington hasn't lost a step, you know he's got

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<v Speaker 1>that potential. Also, they didn't use him in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if he has, even if he had lost

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<v Speaker 1>the step, but he's still fast, right, and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>reason why he hadn't lost a step. He's twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Yeah, you know. And the thing, the thing

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<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh, we saw Pittsburgh play the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years and the quarterback could not throw the ball deep

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<v Speaker 1>and so and that I wouldn't imagine that probably went

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<v Speaker 1>into the decision making process that the Cowboys said when

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<v Speaker 1>they were looking at James Washington, what he can do

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<v Speaker 1>for this offs the deep threat because he's home cooking, right,

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<v Speaker 1>home cooking. Yeah, he's from West Texas. Yeah, there you go, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola. The only news of this week. Keyan O'Neil. Yeah, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Cowboys had much interest in bringing

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<v Speaker 1>him back, and Keyan O'Neil did not have interest in

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<v Speaker 1>playing the same position and he played last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>so now he's a Tampa Bay buccaneer as a safety safety. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they said you're a safety here. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that look the Cowboys the way that I think

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<v Speaker 1>they looked at it is the spot his role and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody mentioned it, either Stephen or Jerry uh that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got Jabril Cox to kind of fill that role

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<v Speaker 1>as a nickel U linebacker to go with Parsons and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got vander Ish uh so, I think. And then

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<v Speaker 1>also the way they used Jay Ryan Curse started reducing

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<v Speaker 1>the snaps that Neil got on the nickel, So they

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<v Speaker 1>valued Curse getting him back, I think more so than

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<v Speaker 1>keeping Neil as a true safety since they tried to

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<v Speaker 1>play him at linebacker. Yeah, I kind of. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of made reference to that a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>So stop trying to steal my thumb to the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already kind of attached on that, all right. But

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<v Speaker 1>uh but he actually said Keanu that he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>play which position, safety safety. I can't see him being

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<v Speaker 1>a I can't see that. I can't see that. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you guys see that as a strong safety? Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different. Now, that's different. I mean that's what that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's saying, strong safety. Okay. Well yeah, no, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what he's been. He's not taking your spot on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still coming bad, guys, I'm not here working out right.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I also saw that Taco

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<v Speaker 1>showed up again. That's right, the Saints. Yeah. When I

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<v Speaker 1>talked Taco, Charlton uh signed with the new Orleans Saints

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, a signing that should have happened on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that? I could even touch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It took like it took like three seconds for Vicky

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<v Speaker 1>a register in Vicky's mind. But anyway, Yeah, you got

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<v Speaker 1>me though, Taco Tuesday. Taco Tuesday. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that they eat a lot of tacos in New Orleans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Todd Bowls thinks thinks a lot of Kean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they probably had an opening and the

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<v Speaker 1>price and his deal was he was on a one

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<v Speaker 1>year like five. It wasn't a two year deal that voided.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's got some dead money this year because they

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<v Speaker 1>gave him a little bit of a signing bonus. So

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>there's a I think maybe a million or so U

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<v Speaker 1>that had to go into the cap this year. His

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, his money last year was more

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<v Speaker 1>than what jay Ron's money was last year. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I mean. Yes, yes, yes, so, meaning that

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>his price tag was going to even though he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the same stats here as jay Ron did. Jay

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Ron obviously had a better season stats wise, Keanu Neil's

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<v Speaker 1>price tag was still where he wanted it to be

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and absolutely so. Yeah, it was so the market

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<v Speaker 1>was not there for Keyoni. Yeah, that was another one

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<v Speaker 1>they lost that they weren't going to bring back. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep reading the Cowboys loss Connor Williams and Lale Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't bringing Connor Williams back, right, And it was

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>their choice to get rid of Lale Collins. I would

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>say they weren't bringing Lale Collins back either, right exactly

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>because they would have been. I mean, they couldn't trade there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're taking a bigger hit on Lale Collins as far

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<v Speaker 1>as their money situation goes. But it was there. It's

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>their choice, their choice. Yeah, that's why I said where

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<v Speaker 1>I started with this with Amari, those are two more

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<v Speaker 1>they better be right, like you better be able to

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<v Speaker 1>replace them with somebody that could at least play as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So they made the decision on Lele Collins that for

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<v Speaker 1>what he was going to cost, they were better off

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>with Terrence Steele starting at right tackle. Okay, so by

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>by them getting rid of Lyle Colin and Connor william

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>So what do what do the tea leaves say about that?

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>People somewhere in the first two rounds they need an

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman. I think I wasn't. I wasn't that far off.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm tipped around off then in regard so

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>salary cap guru, how are they sitting at the cap

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>right now? Um, they're fine, And they don't get Lele

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Collins based salary until June one, right, so, but they

0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>do have dead money for him this year and next year.

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's five this year, eight next year. So

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>reading the tea leaves I expect a veteran interior offensive

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>lineman to be signed yes free agency at some point,

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>and it might it might be before the draft, it

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>might be after the draft. I was going to say,

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>at one point, you do you think that's going to happen.

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I think like tight end, it might look

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>at it and say, okay, let's see what we get

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and then what we can do after the draft. But

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I think to not cause yourself to reach at the

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>guard position, you bring in a veteran beforehand, somebody on

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a one year deal, no more than two years, that

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>is capable of starting, but doesn't have to start. If

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you get somebody that beats them out, and you don't

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>have to follow the money and say well, we paid

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>them all this, he's got to start. See. I think

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that there there are probably two three veteran offensive line

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>interior offensive linemen out there in free agency that Joe

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Philbin likes, and there may be at different price rangers

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>right now. And it may be if one of those

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>guys has an offer from another team before the draft

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and they and they say, Okay, we like him this much.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to cost us that much. We'll go

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>ahead and make this signing before the draft. They could,

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>they would do it. But if they're good, okay, go

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>sign with Green Bay or wherever you know. Right, we'll

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>wait and there may be somebody at a higher price

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>range that they see what they're doing at the draft,

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>what they're able to get at the draft. If they're

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>not able to fill that position in the draft, then

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>they go get that guy after the draft. So look

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>at what they did at defensive end. They brought in

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Dante Fowler on a one year deal, not costing him

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>much at all. So you that doesn't preclude you from

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>drafting a defensive end. So to me, when they get

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to twenty four and if they're not moving around wide receiver,

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>defensive end, offensive lineman. I think those three positions at

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>this point have to be their priority. Depending on the

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>talent is what is their bigger need on the offensive

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>line in the draft, which I'm talking if I have

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>my druthers. My druthers are an offensive tackle who can

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>play guard and eventually move to tackle in a year

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>or two if I need it. And again that's why

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I did the little thing on following the money. You know,

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the difference between what guards get played and what offensive

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>tackles get paid is significantly different, five million dollars different

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>in the average. So that tells you where the value is.

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>So to me and I keep seeing the center thing.

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If the guy is a can he

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>play guard or center? Most of them can, or I

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>mean most of them. You if you're not playing, I

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>mean you're you're you're not the same player, but you

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>can fill in and you know, and they can live with.

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>He's under size, I would say he's a center. I

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>mean he's under three hundred pounds, right, and so that's

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>very small what I read about, it's small for a

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>center with that he had trouble with big defensive tackles. Well,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>are you going to bring him you're already got that.

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You got that at at center already, right, So don't

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>bring in another guy that's going to have the same thing.

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>You know everybody's talking about. Way he was the Rimmington

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Award winner, well so was Beadih by the way, and

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>he's only played two seasons and he started full time one.

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So to me, I'm willing to give him some leeway

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>as another year as the starter. But I gotta find in.

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>If somebody's better than Connor McGovern, then I got to

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>find somebody that can play guard. But I just don't

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>want a guard guard. I want a tackle who can

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>play guard because I need him. Sort of the way

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Lele Collins did at the beginning of his career, the

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>way Flozell Adams did the beginning of his career, the

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>way Solomon Page did at the beginning of his career.

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>These guys went inside before they went outside, and they

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>were extremely inexperienced as well. If you look at it right,

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 1>you're exactly at the end of the season, big time

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>we're getting You know I was fussing about it, isn't it.

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>We know, poor man Rush giving us credit a pressure,

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>consistent pressure, especially towards the lady. Part of the season

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>where we really needed them to come through and give

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>us some time and give us that luxury of even

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>mclock and I advantage. We just never could do that.

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>And seeing the other thing that stuck out to me,

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm probably going to write about it tomorrow in

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>my column is Stephen Jones. When he was talking about

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>drafting offensive linemen, and I can't remember if I mentioned

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>this last week or not, so stop me if I did.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>He pointed out that it's very difficult these days to

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>project college offensive linemen into the NFL because of the

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>way college offenses are run. And so to me, that

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>would give you pause because they're not running the football

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in college. They're basically throwing almost every down. And when

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I start reading about some of this stuff, these guys

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 1>are good pass blockers, but they're weak against in run blocking.

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 1>So when he said that, to me, that almost seems

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to give him pause on taking a first round offensive

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>lineman and maybe waiting to the second round. So if

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work out, your loss is not as big

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>as failing. I mean, think about all the offensive tackles

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that have failed lately in the first round. Right, there's

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys that they drafted and they haven't

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>done anything. And it's because the game is so different

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line, even a few experienced offensive lineman

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>themselves tackles. I was I was disappointed with the signing

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>of when Kansas City picked up the guy with the

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>brown and they that's the left tackle. Remember after the

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl when Tample just really rough shot over the

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>whole offensive line. Yeah, because it was all backups, right, Yeah, Well,

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he did much better. Uh, I think

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>they signed Uh, I can't. I just can't remember that.

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.439
<v Speaker 1>It was that they signed a Brown and they brought

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>him in at the free the signing the next year,

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 1>um to help protect my homes backside. It didn't. I

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>don't think it wasn't much Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown, good piece.

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Sooner which, by the way, speaking of the Sooner, I

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>see that on this list I found online of people

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>visiting here. Yeah, Perry on Winfree. Oh really, yes, I

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>would love him on this team. That tells you a lot.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Talk to him about who that was the guy we

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>saw last week this highlight filed when he made that tackle?

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Was it last week here? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? It was

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>with us? Yeah, right, that was on the Blitz. It

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>was on the Blitz. Yeah. Perry On Winfrey, defensive lineman

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>from Oklahoma. He was a Senior Bowl MVP. He he

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>just ate everybody up at the Senior Bowl. I mean

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:02.240
<v Speaker 1>in workouts, drills, one on ones, in the game everything.

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he had a couple of sacks in the game.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:09.479
<v Speaker 1>And it's a testament to why I'm elated that there's

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a new coaching staff at Oklahoma because they didn't they

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't even use this guy like they making a tackle.

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>First round talent and go ahead, I was gonna say.

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>They showed him making a tackle when we were taping

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and he comes out of nowhere and just it was

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>like a mack truck ran into this guy. And I'm

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>going that had to And I asked Bill, I go

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>where did he played linebacker? And he goes, no, he's

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a defensive tackle. I think I saw that, guys, I

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 1>think I saw and I think he had a really

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>good Pro Day workout. Also, by the way, well he's

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that you know if he if

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>he actually hits you, actually like flight you and half

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>if he goes he is he's a decleaner. He is

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>there you go there. He's six or two hundred ninety

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>pounds with thirty five thirty five inch arms. Ran at

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>two hundred ninety pounds, ran a four eight nine forty

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>with a one sixty eight ten yards split. Last year

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>at Oklahoma and eleven games, he had eleven tackles for

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>loss in five and a half sacks twenty twenty nine games,

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>only half a sack, which is to my point. That

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to my point, okay, why aren't they using this guy?

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>He was a juco transfer from Iowa Western Community College

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>his first two years of college, but he was anyway,

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>so he's kind of a late bloomer type there, but

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>only twenty one years old. He didn't turn twenty two

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>until August. And this guy, he will not only light

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 1>up a running back or a quarterback, he will light

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>up a room too. He's got that kind of a

0:39:54.719 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>personality where he is really fun. I mean, his enthusiast

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>climbed up. You know, Daniel Jeremiah has him as his

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>forty fifth ranked player in the draft, So that's middle

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>of the second round. Hold it right there, Y gil

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Brandt just came out with his top one hundred and

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 1>he had him forty eight Okay, so middle of the

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>second round is what they're saying. And so we'll see

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Gil's description of him was another big defensive lineman with

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>good speed. Mentioned the four point eight ninety Winfrey finished

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>second among sooners and tackles for a losses eleven, and

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:43.240
<v Speaker 1>third in sacks with five and a half. So anyway,

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>when I saw his name come up on that list,

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I've gone, yeah, bring that guy on. All right, So defensive, Okay,

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have drafted the last couple of years. Well,

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Neville Gallimore out of Oklahoma two years ago in the

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>third round, last year in the third round, OsO Digga Zua.

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>And they are three technique types. Okay, So where does

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Winfrey fit in then? Well, I bet he could play

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>at that size, he'd be a nice one technique and

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>they kind of played both of them kind of the same.

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got I think he's got enough athleticism

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>he could actually play a strong side defensive end kind

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>in a run situation whatever, in slide inside as well.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he's I think there's probably from five technique

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>to zero technique. He could play all along the defensive

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.919
<v Speaker 1>line myself at that size and the way he ran

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the same answer I did when I

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.919
<v Speaker 1>was promoting Parsons and somebody asked me where does he play?

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>And I said, on the field. Just put him out there,

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.839
<v Speaker 1>let's go. You know, when we were at our best,

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>though we have looked like a bunch of hybrids out there.

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, we were at our bet Uh that worked

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>for so a certain situations. It's good for you. So

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to start running the ball. You know, obviously

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>we started getting isolatedn't that's where you you know, your

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>your words reigned true spec Nola. You know, yeah, but

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>then you got a three hundred pounds out that. Yeah,

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, all right, and you're basically you were right

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in the end. You were right because all of those

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 1>guys that we had on that line, they never could

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>stand up to the pounding that the eventual you know,

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>kings late in the season. So we've we've mentioned the

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>importance of a wide receiver. We've mentioned the importance of

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>an offensive lightman by the way, for sure bringing in uh.

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>They brought in uh Trey Line Burke of Arkansas the

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver, and also Chris is an alive UH. He

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>came in also for a visit and with offensive guards

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Kenyon Green and Zion Johnson Boston College. I believe it is.

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:13.280
<v Speaker 1>And they did bring in Jordan Davis, the defensive tackle

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>from Georgia who basically disrupted that game. Right, Oh wellie,

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>he ran forty eight two six six three. I got

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>him down with a four seven eight at the combine.

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Davis, Okay, four seven eight was his best. Yeah,

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, get this, Everson, This guy, Jordan Davis,

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>number ninety nine for Georgia, first team All American and

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Daniel Jeremiah has him as the number

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:44.959
<v Speaker 1>one defensive tackle and number seventeen overall. All right, six six,

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>three hundred forty one pounds and ran a four seven

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>eight forty three hundred and forty one pounds. I ran

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a four seven eight with a thirty two vertical and

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a ten three broad. Jem, I thought I should somebody

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>somebody wrote it by him. Yeah, at three forty one.

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know what he's played at three to sixty. Okay,

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you this. You look at that

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Georgia defense and Kirby Smarts defense was so good. Hey,

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>that was that was lunch back, all right. They not

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>only have Jordan Davis as an interior guy. But Devonte Wyatt,

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>right is another guy who I love, and he's gotten

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>this Gil Brandt list too. Right, and Devonte Wyatt Jordan

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Davis number ninety nine, Davonte Wyatt number ninety five, and

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah's got him listed as the number two defensive tackle,

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 1>number twenty nine overall. He ran a four to seven

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>seven at three hundred four pounds, and he had twenty

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>seven quarterback hits, thirty nine tackles, seven tackles for loss

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>in fourteen games at Georgia this year. All right. Then

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>they've also got Treyvon Walker, who number forty four, who's

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>probably going to be the second pick in the draft

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>as an edge. He's sixty five, two hundred and seventy

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>pounds and he they reused him at Georgia all along

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the defensive line. He played on the edge. There are

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>times where he ran. He played as a nose as well. Um,

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, And then it gotten to Kobe Dean, the

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 1>linebacker who if if if teams valued line inside linebackers more,

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>he would be up there in the top half of

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the first round. I mean, he may be the best

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 1>player on the team all right. But you look at

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the Georgia defense and I go back to the Cowboys

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>teams of the nineties. What was the strength of the

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys defenses in the nineties, Mickey, The defensive lineman, position,

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 1>what positions? What what position group? Was the best on

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>that defense? Tea line? Because they can rotate exactly. So

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>why is that? Why is that, George? Why was that

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Georgia defense so good? It's what they had up front

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>on that defensive line. Does that translate anymore with the

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>NFL out? I believe it. I believe it does, especially

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>when you can get big guys to move like that

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have to be just two down lineman,

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to come out on nickel. You leave

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>them on the field and you don't get pushed around,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we can go back and and remember that,

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know this defense was not solidified last year. I mean,

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 1>they got room to grow. So you'd be fine with

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 1>drafting number ninety nine, Jordan Davis, number twenty four overall

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>or number ninety five. Devanty I no. Number eight. Perry

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>On Winfrey, Yes, number eight. He ever said he wore eight.

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why I thought it was. I just thought I

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>just thought he looks you know, it makes them look small.

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>It's really weird. Just bring me a player, you know,

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and don't get carried away with this position. I'm yeah,

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you're talking my language. Right. There's enough knee on this team.

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.880
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0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.520
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0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>phone lines work outside of Eversin's lot, if weally you

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:41.680
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0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:43.840
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0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>have Jasmine Jasmine sitting in for Chris Beam this week.

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>And what's that phone number again at eight eight eight

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>five five two two nine seven. For those of us

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 1>who are slow, say it again eight eight eight five

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:02.240
<v Speaker 1>five two two nine seven eight five five still works

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>with Troy Aikman and Star like Leroy Jorde, We'll go,

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Leroy Jordan King, We'll go. So twenty two ninety seven,

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>what do you want to go with? You want to?

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's there's there's a couple of twenty two.

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Bob he's a Rimmett. Yeah, okay, And then are you

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 1>going with ninety seven? Uh, come on Jones, right, Jimmy Jones.

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Jones, Jimmy Jones, or Leroy Glover, Jason Hatcher, Jason Hatcher. There, Oh,

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>there you go, there you go. So so everything's going

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:44.800
<v Speaker 1>with Jason Hatcher. So um by the way, Uh, I

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 1>looked at some of the top signings the Cowboys had

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Lawrence being not in this group. Okay, that was

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 1>one they had to get done, right. Uh. Jerry Jones

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>said that was a pri already bringing back to Marcus Lawrence.

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:08.319
<v Speaker 1>And they did so and save money against the cap.

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 1>They saved thirteen million dollars against the cap. The way

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>they structured his contract and the reason he did it,

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:22.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody says he took a pay cut. Basically, they guaranteed

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>him thirty million dollars more than he had guaranteed on

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:35.240
<v Speaker 1>his original previous contract, and the thing was worth thirty million,

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 1>so they basically guaranteed he was out of guarantees on

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>his other contract. So that's what enticed him to sign

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the deal that he did. But I looked at they

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:55.399
<v Speaker 1>ended up bringing back eight guys and in no particular order.

0:51:56.000 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Dalton Schultz counts in there, okay, and his cap pit

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.320
<v Speaker 1>for the franchise tag, which still can be adjusted, was

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 1>ten point nine million. Then they also brought back Layton

0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 1>vandrus Dorrence Armstrong. They signed h James Washing to the

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 1>veteran exception deal, brought back Jay Ron Curse, They signed

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Dante Fowler, Brian Anger, and brought back Carlos Watkins on

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the veteran exception. So if you add up those eight

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>cap hits, they ended up with eight guys for a

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 1>total of twenty six point three million dollars. So that's

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:40.359
<v Speaker 1>people said, what did they do in free agency? Well,

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what they did in free agency. Now did you

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:47.720
<v Speaker 1>include Watkins on that? Carlos Watkins? Noah Brown? I didn't.

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 1>I um and so nine guys and you just add

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 1>another million dollars to it? Yeah, I did, say Jay run.

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 1>So here we're Chip McQuaid. You have to have a

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 1>long snip. I know I didn't include I took the

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>eight guys that I thought were important that they brought you.

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You don't think LP was important for seventeen years here

0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:17.439
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Okay, I didn't throw that one in there,

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Jake McQuay. Uh Ever, and if I had put him

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>in there. Everybody goes, well, it makes it would make

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it a nice even ten ten. Why why you stop

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.399
<v Speaker 1>at eight? Right? Okay? And ten? And it would add

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:34.360
<v Speaker 1>another two million, okay, right, okay, So the most expensive

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:38.399
<v Speaker 1>one obviously Sprinkle cap hit. No, he doesn't make my list.

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, why not? Because he's on the team. It's

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.359
<v Speaker 1>another veteran. I mean, you got you need a third

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 1>tight end, right, He ain't gonna be the third tight end?

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Third tight ends in the draft? You don't think so?

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I think there would be a third tight end. Yeah, okay,

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 1>So anyone's between Sprinkle and McEwen for the third tight end.

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>The most defensive cap hit of all those guys they

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>signed other than Schultz was jay Ron Curse at three

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>point seven two million, and then Armstrong at three point

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:16.480
<v Speaker 1>three eight million, and the rest of it. They just

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of nibbled against the cap, bringing guys in in

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 1>necessary spots. Where does Michael Gallup fit into this equation?

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:32.360
<v Speaker 1>He he was a necessity. They don't fit the narrative.

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to show what they did with some of

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>these guys and how they spent their money, like basically

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>eight guys, you know, and everybody's like, well, why didn't

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 1>they signed Bobby Wagner. Well he was five years fifty

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 1>million with a five year, five million dollars signing bonus

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and twenty million dollars gart Well, okay, so there it

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>is there, it is right there. Do you want Bobby

0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Wagner at five years fifty million or do you want

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallop at five years fifty seven million? Right? And

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. Yeah, So there there's yeah, and

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallops what twenty six? This guy's going to be

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty two the end of June. And basically, if you

0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 1>look at his contract the way it's structured, they can

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>get they can turn it into a three year, twenty

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>eight and a half million dollar deal and get out

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 1>of it after three years with two million of dead money.

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.239
<v Speaker 1>And you're right, Bobby Wagner's a Hall of Famer. And

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.879
<v Speaker 1>if Bobby Wagner were twenty six or even twenty eight,

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>then yet you would take Bobby Wagner. But you wouldn't

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.280
<v Speaker 1>have been able to get him at twenty eight because

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Seattle would have kept him. Yeah, so he's averaging nine

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and a half million a year plus plus he's got

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>incentives that he can make and and earn another million

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 1>a year each year in incentives. So just to show

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you when see why didn't they signed Bobby Wagner, Well,

0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 1>they basically signed eight guys and it didn't cost him

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that much. All right, Before we go, I want to

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>ask Everson, Hey, what do you Everson? What do you

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 1>think you know? Tyron Matthew visited the Saints this past week? Okay,

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>what do you think of Tyron Matthew as a cowboy?

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>If he fits salary wise, if he came here on

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a you know, economical deal one year, seven million something

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:25.440
<v Speaker 1>like that, I would I would like that because he's

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 1>that guy that can make those he could decipher those

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>plays that in that key situation you say, you know what,

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 1>this is why we bought him here for that moment

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 1>right there. You see. I think he would be one

0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of those vestans that could play solid all year long

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and if he had, if he had to, he would

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:51.920
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what the what the opposition is gonna run

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 1>before they run. It's a lot like U ty Law.

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you know when he went to the Patriots US

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot like I did when I went to the

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Giant is nothing can substitute someone who's still capable and

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 1>yet has that experience hell varn Miller and for the round.

0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:15.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, when it was time, he stepped up and

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>did what he was supposed to do it and did

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>what he was brought there for. Okay, and be great.

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Everson didn't get seven million when he went to the Giants.

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 1>It was it was more like seventy thousand. You know,

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:33.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody asked me that question. I go, yeah, just how

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>much does he want? You know, how how much does

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it take to get him? And he's getting up in

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:42.240
<v Speaker 1>age now, isn't he? And now, like Bill was saying,

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 1>one of you guys just said, doesn't one year so

0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:48.439
<v Speaker 1>much something millions offer? But look at uh barn Miller

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 1>end up getting like six years and Bobby Wagon. I'm sorry,

0:57:56.640 --> 0:58:00.919
<v Speaker 1>I did not see that coming for guys who's still

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>are still good. But dang, that is a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a good luck with that, you know they

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<v Speaker 1>ain't good luck. Okay. So then as far as what Matthew,

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<v Speaker 1>where Matthew fits into this defense? You've got you've got

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<v Speaker 1>at Safety, You've got Curse, and you've got Malie Cooker,

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and you've got Donovan Wilson, Demante Kazy has not signed anywhere,

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and so that there's a vacancy there at your in

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<v Speaker 1>your safety room. Kean O'Neill has left. Obviously he was

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker slash safety here. Uh, and then yet as

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<v Speaker 1>a slot corner to be your slot corners. Jordan lewis, So, so,

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<v Speaker 1>how does how does Matthews? You know, I gotta look

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<v Speaker 1>it up here? You keep talking because he how can

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<v Speaker 1>I put it? A guy that has put it all

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>on the line, like to have a bit on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes he has taken out to hit and you could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see, uh. You know, he turns thirty in May.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an old he's an old thirty. Yeah, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>through a lot. He's been through to his credit, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you really have to draw on more of

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<v Speaker 1>your U was the word guile? Wow? No, I like

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<v Speaker 1>that word gu I l e that. You know? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do y'all play wordle? No? You know what I'm talking about? Word?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a great good word. It's a five

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<v Speaker 1>it's their five letter words. Guile would be a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>G U I l E this morning? What was the word?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what the word was. I got it

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<v Speaker 1>on the first try, well, he's bragging out himself in fact. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what No, No, here's what I do. Here's what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I do it with my daughters and my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and so my youngest daughter Jordan, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>what you do is you you you figure it out

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<v Speaker 1>and then it says how many trice it took for

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<v Speaker 1>you to to get the word right? Okay, and so

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's uh text first and it shows what her guesses were,

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<v Speaker 1>basically how many you get right in her first guest

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<v Speaker 1>And then my second oldest daughter, Jessica, she did hers well.

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<v Speaker 1>They we went on a family trip to Broken Bow, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>and they revealed what were what their first word is

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<v Speaker 1>that they use every time, Like, um, I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>what Jessica what her first word is, but uh, Jordan's

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<v Speaker 1>first word is ghost, and so I could go off

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<v Speaker 1>of I can go off of what by studying there

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on their guesses that there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times now I've been able to get it on the

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<v Speaker 1>first guess just based on what they missed whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is like talking about fantasy footthall. It's actually pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great family thing to do. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think Tiger is doing right now? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he still even part? Oh yeah, let me see what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck is going on, Tiger? That would be another

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<v Speaker 1>five letter words. Great, it would be very timely for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me suggest that to the New York Times for

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<v Speaker 1>your next work. Going back to going back to wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what about walls? Come on? Yeah, that's I've noticed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed they don't do plural like like Rhodes with

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<v Speaker 1>an S on the end of it. There, Apparently they

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<v Speaker 1>don't do they don't do plurals. So and some walls

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<v Speaker 1>walls would not qualify then. And I haven't seen a

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<v Speaker 1>proper name yet either. Yeah, what about Jonas Jones? I

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<v Speaker 1>have not. I was talking about the commercial. I got

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<v Speaker 1>one that went right over your head. All right, let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh whoa wow, tight, right, before you go on, before

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<v Speaker 1>you go on, before you go h called some people

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<v Speaker 1>at Grambling to get some information, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people down there listen to our podcast. All right, black

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<v Speaker 1>people are into that's why we need you in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Ever, since that's why that's why you're we

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<v Speaker 1>can't have you on the phone. We got to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see you in studio. So wherever you found

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<v Speaker 1>that out, make sure they know eight eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>to two night seven. Okay, So so look I brought,

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<v Speaker 1>I brought all of was it was it? What was

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<v Speaker 1>that Bakla Baklava? Remember I was in baklover, New Jersey?

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<v Speaker 1>Or uh about Buffalo? That was about bad chast I

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<v Speaker 1>told you about that place. Yeah, yeah, and people that's

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<v Speaker 1>right there, that's right. So yeah, man, that's that's only

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<v Speaker 1>because of me. Guy, Let's get that straight. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the dry Fish you were talking about Italian restaurants, Baca

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<v Speaker 1>of all. Yeah, and yes, who guess who is tied

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<v Speaker 1>for third at the Master's right now? Wow, let me

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<v Speaker 1>look at this. Through seven holes Tiger Woods is one

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<v Speaker 1>under par and he's tied for third at the Masters.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, guys, what do we do? We dare speculate?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, I heard the guys on the

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<v Speaker 1>radio and I was driving in. He hit his first

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<v Speaker 1>shot and he wasn't happy with it, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of sliced it and it wasn't on the

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<v Speaker 1>fairway and they were all going, oh god, look at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he ended up paring the hole. Right, he was

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble and he parted. He was even par after three,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I saw do we dare? Yeah? No, come

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<v Speaker 1>on now, it's a matter of this can't be real.

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<v Speaker 1>This can't be He birdied six. He birt like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like Will Smith slapping Chris Rock. It was this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is fake? Come on, the accident was fake.

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<v Speaker 1>Which Gronkowski had a funny line last night on Jimmy Kimmel. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Kimmel said something about, yeah, what's your personality? You could

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<v Speaker 1>you could host the Oscars, and he goes, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, I want to see somebody come up and

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<v Speaker 1>slap me. He goes, they ain't getting away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll meet them. He'll meet them halfway, meet them halfway.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty funny, all right, So that doesn't for

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<v Speaker 1>the special two hour version one under Now the question

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<v Speaker 1>is can he walk eighteen holes two days? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm thinking, what I'm thinking fu on these practice

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<v Speaker 1>rounds as well. Yeah, he's been really trying to yep.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So that's what you're doing for the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple hours there, Everson, keep an eye on. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I don't want Okay, that's you guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>can have it. You had to do something. You had

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<v Speaker 1>to do something I couldn't do. Hey, if I was

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA and he was playing in my tournament and

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<v Speaker 1>I knew all the eyeballs were going to be on it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, if he makes the cut, I give him

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<v Speaker 1>a golf cart. Just keep keep keep playing, just keep playing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. That does it for this edition of mix

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<v Speaker 1>Shots and more of our draft preview, and Everson is

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<v Speaker 1>going to do his research over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>next week and we'll get his take on some of

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<v Speaker 1>these draft prospects next Thursday at eleven thirty here on

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<v Speaker 1>mix Shots. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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