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Speaker 1: got stuck watching a backup quarterback yesterday, you warn't alone,

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Speaker 1: and you certainly weren't warned, or can't say you weren't warned,

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Speaker 1: because we know the quarterbacks go down all the time,

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Speaker 1: and then you add in this extra regular season game

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Speaker 1: and that means more backup quarterbacks. Tyler Huntley come on down,

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Speaker 1: did an admirable job filling in for Lamar Jackson. Ravens

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Speaker 1: still lost to the Browns, Kyle Allen in Washington almost

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Speaker 1: let it come back, came up short against Dallas. The

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills all lose. Can't wait till week eighteen on

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Speaker 1: January ninth, once teams are out of the playoff picture,

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Speaker 1: going to be even quicker to pull this starter. And

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Speaker 1: all of this is a not so subtle reminder of

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Speaker 1: why teams might want to invest in a quality backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's hard enough to win with your starter, hard enough

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Speaker 1: to keep him healthy. Putting in the backup quarterback is

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Speaker 1: that challenge very few teams are able to overcome. When

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Speaker 1: you start to look at some of the surprises yesterday,

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Speaker 1: or were they surprises yesterday? Don't look now. But the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs actually have a formidable defense, Dallas a formidable defense,

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Speaker 1: Packers look great, Jack's Bill a mess, the Ravens in trouble,

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers still good. And then if you believe in moral victories,

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Speaker 1: you got one. If you're a Buffalo Bills fan. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you start to think of moral victories, moral victories

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Speaker 1: a moral victory. Oh they came back, they showed guts,

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Speaker 1: they played hard. Yeah, they're supposed to be really good.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Lions get moral victories or Jacksonville gets

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Speaker 1: a moral victory. Buffalo doesn't get a moral victory. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't get you into the playoffs. But watching yesterday, Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay looked awesome in the first half. Buffalo did come back,

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Speaker 1: certainly made it interesting going into overtime, and then Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady with the game winning touchdown, and he had this

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Speaker 1: to say, Yeah, I was trying to think haves that

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Speaker 1: ever happened before? That's right, that was in Miami too,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a it was but it was

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Speaker 1: very cool. It was very cool. I much rather not

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Speaker 1: And obviously we're playing for you know, a division championship

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Speaker 1: game winning touchdown pass is a second overtime touchdown pass.

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Speaker 1: Here's Josh Allen, the Bills quarterback. Every game is a

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Speaker 1: different situation. Sometimes you practice one thing and they can

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Speaker 1: they show something completely different. But yeah, that's something obviously

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Speaker 1: to go right off the rip and have fast starts. Again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just wasn't our favorite snap. Buffalo seven and six.

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Speaker 1: You know when you start to think about, Okay, are

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Speaker 1: they a super Bowl team? I didn't think so to

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. Look, I know we came up short, right,

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Speaker 1: credible amount of heart and guts that they show this team,

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Speaker 1: But I love how the team fought. Yeah, they're supposed

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Speaker 1: Who do you got the Bucks or the field? Well,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. But it just feels like this is about

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Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's just really important for these teams having

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Speaker 1: just makes Aaron Rodgers that much greater. And he looked,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers still owns the Chicago Bears. Yes, as a

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Speaker 1: up at the NFL owners meetings representing the Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 1: Like if he just went in there, go what are

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Speaker 1: you doing here? Um? I own the Bears. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: I'm no, no, no, the mc caskeys owned the Bears. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: updated odds here. Buccaneers are the favorites, then the Packers,

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Speaker 1: gonna say Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes are the only

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Speaker 1: make that throw. It was spectacular. And Justin Herbert is

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Speaker 1: putting up these crazy numbers. And you know, he's thrown

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Speaker 1: for thirty touchdowns now in his first two seasons. That's

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Speaker 1: of the day, that past STAD of the day, Stad

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Speaker 1: Defensive player the year. The odds are out. Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: Then it's Micah Parsons and Trayvon Diggs. Matthew Judon is

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Day was wonderful. You know when you get ten interceptions,

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Speaker 1: at investpr dot org, slash Impeller. Mclovin, what's the poll

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Speaker 1: Andre asked DPA Dan Patrick dot com the poll question.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go with mcleven Herbert versus Burrow. He got

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Speaker 1: okay with that. Yeah, mclem. Can you say that renfro

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Speaker 1: is a new you're trying to do the Raiders? No? No,

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Speaker 1: Frednikoff is the Fred bullet Nikoff of Fred bullet Nikov's.

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Speaker 1: Fred Bulikoff was a guy from Florida State now the

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Speaker 1: best receiver in college football. The award is name after

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Speaker 1: Fred Bulletnikoff. And Fred looked like he weighed about one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds, never wore big pads if he

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Speaker 1: even wore pads, and had a ton of stick him

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Speaker 1: and he had a single face mask bar and he

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Speaker 1: caught everything thrown his way, probably because he had stick

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Speaker 1: him all over him. But he you know, they had

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Speaker 1: a formidable passing attack, and uh, Freddie was a wonderful

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. He might have been the first possession wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: The the the slot guy, the guy, the white guy.

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Speaker 1: You go, I don't think he can beat us. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's dangerous. And then you look up and

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Speaker 1: you go, I think he had ten catches. Yeah. Play.

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Speaker 1: I found an old picture of fred Bulitnikoff, and it

439
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Speaker 1: looks like he rolled through the mud before the game.

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Speaker 1: He's got stick him all up and down, from his

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Speaker 1: hands to his elbows. He's got it on his hips,

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Speaker 1: like for bonus, stick him to gear up there in

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Speaker 1: the game. It's fascinating. I thought one day he would

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Speaker 1: just stick to another player and then they, you know,

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Speaker 1: like velcro, they'd have to prime off of somebody. Yes,

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Speaker 1: mclub about Lester Hayes, Like he didn't even turn his

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Speaker 1: back and would just stick to his the back of

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Speaker 1: his jersey. Yeah, I loved I loved those Raiders. And

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Speaker 1: then they came out with the gloves and they got

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Speaker 1: rid of stick him. Lester Hayes number thirty seven, Freddie

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Speaker 1: Bulitnikoff number twenty five. Now, those Raiders can intimidate you

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Speaker 1: because they were really, really good. Yes MC, Could you

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Speaker 1: ever have a team like that in today's sports world?

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't allow couldn't. I mean, who's a bully anymore?

455
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Speaker 1: Jack Tatum. Jack Tatum couldn't play now, they wouldn't let him.

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Speaker 1: The way he played now, you could say he would change.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if all those Raiders could have changed,

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Speaker 1: because that's just who they were, how they played. Yeah, mclub.

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Speaker 1: What about that coach Artchell who wore like a cast?

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Speaker 1: Or was it Artchell who had an actual cast on

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Speaker 1: his hand that he'd hit people in the head with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Gene Upshaw. Here's Burrow versus Herbert first twenty

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Speaker 1: three games. Herbert a better winning percentage, but you would

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Speaker 1: expect that passing attempts Herbert one hundred more completion percentage.

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Speaker 1: They're about the same yards because of the more games.

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Speaker 1: Herbert has more games. Quarterback raiding Herbert ninety eight point five,

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Speaker 1: Burrow is ninety five point three. But you know, but

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Speaker 1: Burrow got injured. They're close than they are, and Burrow

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Speaker 1: is playing on a team that's not as talented as

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Plus, when you come back from knee surgery

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Speaker 1: and you're a quarterback and when you plant like you're

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Speaker 1: always thinking of that consciously. Subconsciously, you know that feeling

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Speaker 1: of somebody around your legs, and that can be disconcerting.

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Speaker 1: And and Joe Burrows had to come back from that surgery.

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Speaker 1: And then the fact that you're a quarterback. But he's fun.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's confident. He borders on cocky, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's fun to see when these guys produced that way.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys have that false bravado, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you how great I am. How about

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Speaker 1: you show me how great you are, then you can

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Speaker 1: tell me how great. We do it in reverse order.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll get to phone calls here. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Army Navy boys in the back. Some of the guys

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Speaker 1: in the back, Mario Dylan and Ray the Intern went

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Speaker 1: to Army Navy, and Dylan had money on the game.

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Speaker 1: He took Navy, and Navy surprised Army. There nice little

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Speaker 1: comeback there. So some interesting football, the Heisman trophy ceremony

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Speaker 1: and there was no drama there. Still don't know about

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett if he's going to play in the Peach Bowl.

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Speaker 1: From what I'm told he's not. But yeah, Bryce Young, congratulations,

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Speaker 1: he would probably be a source of mind. Said that

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Speaker 1: if Bryce Young was coming out this year, he can't

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Speaker 1: until after next year, he'd be the number one quarterback

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Speaker 1: and didn't know if he'd be the number one pick

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Speaker 1: because he's a little undersized, and to which I said,

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Speaker 1: haven't we learned our lesson with the Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's not six to four. He's really good and has

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Speaker 1: probably looked at as maybe better than TWA, which I

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Speaker 1: found kind of interesting. Yeah, mccleman, I watched a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the ceremony. It was in that room that

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Speaker 1: we were in before the Emmy's at the Time Order Center.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone recognize it. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: before I can recognize defeat? Yes, yeah, yes, I know

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Speaker 1: it's at the Lincoln Center, the like Jazz Center or

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Speaker 1: Jazz Room or something like that. But yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: where we got beat. Oh. I didn't mean to bring

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Speaker 1: that up, but it also Bryce Harper had a really

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Speaker 1: cool affit. I think he went turtleneck with a black jacket.

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Speaker 1: He looked it was different. It wasn't like traditional affit. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a crushed velvet black jacket with a black turtleneck, not

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Speaker 1: like Fritzie's turtleneck. Moll. It was very nice though lovely.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Alright, let's start with phone calls best

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Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend. Um Michael in Missouri. Hey Mike,

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey Michael? Five eleven one

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Speaker 1: eight The best. The best of the weekend was the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs dominating the Raiders after they stomped on the Arrowhead.

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Speaker 1: And my worst of the weekend was I walked a

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Speaker 1: ten dollars bet to my brother on the Bears game.

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00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: I had the Bears and ten points and they choked

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Speaker 1: it in the second half. They looked at least interesting. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's where you have a moral victory. Buffalo Bills can't

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Speaker 1: have a moral victory. If you're a Bears fan, you

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Speaker 1: can have a moral victory. You're not going to get

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Speaker 1: a real victory against Aaron Rodgers, so you might as

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Speaker 1: well take a moral victory and say, you know, at

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Speaker 1: least we are entertaining. Plus, it's a standalone game, and

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Speaker 1: that's where normally it would be. The Bears are horrible. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Bears aren't very good, and Justin Fields has to

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Speaker 1: use every ounces athleticism to stay alive. But they I

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Speaker 1: think they got the Packers attention, which I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that they were going to last night. It was fun,

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Speaker 1: it was it was at least entertaining. James in Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Hi James, welcome back. Oh, good morning, gentlemen. Happy Monday. Man.

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Speaker 1: We are Washington. Oh. Man, they had a real shot, man,

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Speaker 1: so that my worst is going to the game, man,

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Speaker 1: and just being around being in the Dallas home game. Man,

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Speaker 1: it was like coys fans. Man. I couldn't believe it. Man,

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00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: it was everywhere I looked. It was maybe little and great.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on? But my best, man,

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Speaker 1: my mother, Man, Rachel. She's seventy five years old. Man,

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Speaker 1: she's been a Cowboys fan since the nineteen sixties. She

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Speaker 1: was telling me about how Lansley would go up and

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Speaker 1: down the sidelines with a scour and never smile no

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Speaker 1: matter what, and talking about Roger stall back on the

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Speaker 1: way and a Smith, her best, her favorite player all time.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's tough as the Redskins man hearing it.

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Speaker 1: But I love that she had such a great time

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Speaker 1: at her first game. So it was a great time. Man.

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00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: They went the opportunity going forward. They still control their destiny.

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Speaker 1: Four to go. We'll see what happens. But in the end, man,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's the Packers and the Bucks and

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00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Man. One of those three are gonna take it.

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Speaker 1: You guys have a great one. Man. We are Washington,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, James. I love that James's mom has been

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan since the six sixties. But James is

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Speaker 1: a diehard Washington fan. How does that happen in the household?

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Speaker 1: Like what happens? Probably Washington wins a few Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: and you go, I like Washington here because there's no

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Speaker 1: reason to be a Washington fan the last twenty years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pulling Fritzie And when did that transition happen that you

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Speaker 1: would go to a game in DC and be eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of Cowboys fans. And those days of Dallas against

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Speaker 1: Washington were amazing. I can't imagine with the Hogs and

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Speaker 1: everything would be a bunch of Dallas fans in there.

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Speaker 1: But Dallas is like a college team. Pittsburgh's like a

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Speaker 1: college team. Green Bay is like a college team. They

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Speaker 1: travel when they come to town, you know they're in town. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: palling I went my first time when I lived on Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I went to an Arizona Cardinals game back when they

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Speaker 1: played at Sundevil in Tempee, and a lot of the

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Speaker 1: locals didn't want to go and sit in a heat

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Speaker 1: on those ten seats and it was a Cowboys game.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it it was. It had to be

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Speaker 1: ninety percent. It felt like it was ninety percent Cowboys.

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00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a college team as well. They're just raiders

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Speaker 1: or a college team, or at least they used to

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Speaker 1: be that. They travel and it's always impressive when you'll

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Speaker 1: listen to a game and you'll hear what you think

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Speaker 1: is the home fans and you realize that's the road fans.

580
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: They're making more noise, they take over, they'd like come in.

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Speaker 1: It's a swarm. They get the tickets and they make

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Speaker 1: it a home game for them. All Right, More phone calls,

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Speaker 1: best and worst to the weekend coming up. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: coming up next hour, we'll talk a little bit more

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Speaker 1: about what's going on with Jacksonville with Urban Meyer and

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Speaker 1: does he want to stay in the NFL. Also, is

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Speaker 1: there a chance that Ryan Day, the Ohio State head coach,

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00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: could be in play for the Chicago Bears. I have

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Speaker 1: that for you coming up as well. Take a break

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Speaker 1: to Perriman. The seven hundredth of Brady's career, including the postseason,

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Speaker 1: is tenth straight win over Buffalo. That's somebody who can

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Speaker 1: pretty good, that's pretty good. They could end up thirteen wins.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe they run the table here getting

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Speaker 1: The Ravens aren't playing well. Don't know how healthy their

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Speaker 1: quarterback is. They got Green Bay at Cincinnati, the Rams

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. So Cincinnati and Pittsburgh all trying to chase

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Ravens, can you win two out of four?

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough, That'll be dicey. There feels like

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Speaker 1: the sky is falling on urban Meyer. They got shut out.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you win a couple of games, it cools,

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Speaker 1: you know, cools things down a little bit. But it's

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00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: starting to heat up a little bit more. Now there's

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Speaker 1: a report that urban Meyer called out his assistant coaches

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Speaker 1: and yeah, he's arguing with a wide receiver. Here is

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer on the leaks coming out of Jacksonville. What's

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00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: the answer, start leaking information or some nonsense. No, that's nonsense,

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Speaker 1: that's garbage, that's you know, that's once again, I've been

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Speaker 1: very blessed. I'm not really dealt with that. I'm not

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Speaker 1: dealt with Well, did you hear what he said? What? No,

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Speaker 1: Let's improve on offense and get our quarterback in a

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Speaker 1: position to be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother

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00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: said or someone said, someone said, that will occupy very

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Speaker 1: little my time. And if if there is a source.

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Speaker 1: That source is unemployed. I mean within seconds if there's

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Speaker 1: some source that's doing it. Okay. The reason why he's

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00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: never faced this before is because he's never been a

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Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL. You know, when you're at

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: Utah or Florida, Ohio State players probably aren't saying anything.

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: They don't want to jeopardize their status there, their scholarship

656
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: there in the NFL. The play don't care. These players

657
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: make more than you do. Some of them, they don't care.

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00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: And he's never been part of a losing system here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a great coach. He's a great college coach.

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Speaker 1: You know when he controls everything. You know, these players listen.

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00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: They have to listen. But there's gonna be people who

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Speaker 1: are gonna talk are They're gonna be people inside who

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00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: don't like him. People are rubbed the wrong way. Like

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Speaker 1: you were great in college. This is the NFL. These

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Speaker 1: college kids they can't complain. NFL players they can complain.

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Speaker 1: And then you wonder how patient would you be if

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Speaker 1: you're Shod Khan and the Jags, because urban, what are you?

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Speaker 1: Two and eleven? Jimmy Johnson was one in fifteen. Two

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Speaker 1: years later, team win eleven and five made the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Three years later they won the Super Bowl. But here's

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Speaker 1: the difference. Jimmy Johnson was an unbelievably bright college and

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Speaker 1: pro coach and as a GM, I mean, he pulled

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Speaker 1: off the deal that made the Cowboys reinvented the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: He traded herschel Walker. He also created a system for

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Speaker 1: the draft, putting points at you know, you trade up

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00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: or you trade down, and you accumulate certain points and

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Speaker 1: that tells you you know the value of a player

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Speaker 1: or a draft pick. Jimmy Johnson redefined the NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: I have confidence in that because Jimmy was a great

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Speaker 1: He was a motivator, he was a brilliant mind. But

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Speaker 1: he also had that ability to be a great GM.

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Speaker 1: And that's the difference. Urban Meyer, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: he is an assessing talent because at Ohio State or Florida,

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Speaker 1: you just say, hey, you want to come and play

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State or Florida. Hey you want to play

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Speaker 1: for a national title? Come on in. That's a little

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Speaker 1: bit it easier. Now you're in Jacksonville, are you going

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00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: to get free agents who want to go there because

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Speaker 1: of you? No? Are you going to be able to

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Speaker 1: outsmart people in the draft, maybe, but can you make trades.

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Speaker 1: That's what Jimmy was brilliant at and I can make

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Speaker 1: that parallel go well. Troy Aikman was oh and eleven

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Speaker 1: as a starter, nine touchdowns eighteen interceptions. Two years later

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Speaker 1: he made the Pro Bowl. Okay is Trevor Lawrence Troy Aikman.

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Speaker 1: I don't know number one overall picks first names begin

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Speaker 1: with a T other than that, I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, Jimmy Johnson's one of the brightest minds in

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Speaker 1: the history of the NFL in my opinion. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Urban Meyer is that kind of guy. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he has attention to detail. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he has patience. You want ownership to have patience.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Urban has patience. And you're calling

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Speaker 1: out your assistant coaches and yes, things are going to

704
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: get out because they're gonna be people who want you out,

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Speaker 1: who don't like you. But now you're gonna go and

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Speaker 1: try to find people and fire them. I remember when

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Speaker 1: the Mothership said that they were like, all this stuff

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Speaker 1: was being leaked to the media, and they said Oh,

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Speaker 1: if we find out who's leaking this, we're gonna fire you. Well,

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Speaker 1: then they found out some of the people leaking, nobody

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Speaker 1: got fired. They're not firing anybody. If anybody talks to

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Speaker 1: the media, we're gonna fire you, all right, Yes, Todd,

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Speaker 1: you wonder if Urban Meyer is angry with the source

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Speaker 1: because he's making up things or is he angry because

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Speaker 1: it right? Is lea legitimate things that he said or

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Speaker 1: did that's really upset? Well, what would bother you more

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Speaker 1: that he lied about it or that the guy's accurate.

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00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: It's kind of dead on here. Yes. Urban Meyers hit

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Speaker 1: this point though, that almost no matter what he does

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Speaker 1: is going to be criticized unless he's starts winning. Unless

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Speaker 1: he starts winning, yeah, then it's like Brian Kelly, now

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Speaker 1: that he's at LSU, it doesn't matter what he does.

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, did you hear did you see this?

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Speaker 1: Did you see the dance video with Brian Kelly with

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Speaker 1: his new quarterback recruit. Actually, we'll show that to you

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Speaker 1: coming up. Not suitable for kids. You know that he

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Speaker 1: does his southern accent, you know, and as a friend

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Speaker 1: of mine said, well, he did coach in South Bend

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Speaker 1: and I said, okay, all right, fair enough. But he

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Speaker 1: does a dance video. You know, when you have the

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Speaker 1: old white guy at the at the reception dance and

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Speaker 1: I know this quite well, where you're going, it's not good. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's okay when there's fifty people on the dance floor,

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Speaker 1: but when it's you and your quarterback and you're dancing

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Speaker 1: cheek to cheek and I'm not talking about your faces.

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Speaker 1: You you got cheek to cheek and you're dancing, and

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Speaker 1: I go, no, like, what happened? I can't Brian Kelly

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Speaker 1: didn't need to reinvent himself. It's it's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what happened. He's dancing with a recruit and somebody, probably

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Speaker 1: you know, some twenty year old is saying, hey, coach,

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Speaker 1: this would be great TikTok man, you're gonna put this

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Speaker 1: It's gonna go viral? One hour of the books, two

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