Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal I'm that for me. I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for day Edith State? Is that? Woo whoom? And Dan and.
Speaker 2: Tie welcome back to the solid Burbo boys and girls.
Speaker 2: My name is Ty hilde Brand. I'm joined as always
Speaker 2: if I'm a good friend and colleague can co host
Speaker 2: many years. Way over there, beautiful New York City. It's sunny, Dan,
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm in the audio mausoleum, which is now ventilated,
Speaker 1: and I'm wearing short sleeves here today. Ty Ok, I'm
Speaker 1: wearing a polo shirt. I feel good. I went to
Speaker 1: the gym this morning. Do you ever work out in
Speaker 1: the mornings before work?
Speaker 2: I used to try doing it in the mornings, but
Speaker 2: I'm more of an afterwork kind of guy.
Speaker 1: I've been doing the aftercak thing now because when I
Speaker 1: can get inspired in the mornings, yeah, I feel wonderful. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm getting married in two months, Ty, so it's time
Speaker 1: to get swollen. So now what are you doing at
Speaker 1: the gym? Are you doing weight?
Speaker 2: So? Trying to slim down? To fit into the suit
Speaker 2: you haven't bought yet. What's your strategy here?
Speaker 1: Oh, I just stand in the corner and creep on people. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I do. Now, I will because I still
Speaker 1: have a bad foot. I do run when it's nice outside.
Speaker 1: But at the gym, I'll do some bike stuff. I
Speaker 1: do some weights. I do a couple of machines I
Speaker 1: just started doing. I don't know what they're called. Tie
Speaker 1: those rope things that the sort of lasso rope things
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, like that Jesse Palmer did it like Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: They're like they're these ropes that are attached to the
Speaker 1: ground basically, and they're like fifteen feet long. Okay, and
Speaker 1: you sort of whip them like you are, you know,
Speaker 1: heading out west in a covered wagon. That's a tough
Speaker 1: tough workout right there, I tell you. Tie. My core
Speaker 1: has been better, but it's improving, all right. How you doing? Tire?
Speaker 2: Your sleeve short? My sleeves are short. I'm wearing the
Speaker 2: custom uniform of the solid Verble my Haines white T shirt.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: But I too have gone to the gym, though I'm
Speaker 2: not doing the rope thing. Spring has sprung Dan, it
Speaker 2: has indeed, and with that in mind.
Speaker 1: We've got we've got a little bit of a what
Speaker 1: is this a spring show, a spring forecast, We're calling
Speaker 1: it spring forecast. You are a big You're a weather buff, right,
Speaker 1: Love weather? Yeah, love your weather, Love your dopplers? Do
Speaker 1: you like? Do you have a preferred model? The European
Speaker 1: the nam I'm more of a European guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, I've I've got several weather apps on on
Speaker 2: the phone. Usually go on number one Weather dot Com
Speaker 2: app just for the for the quick glance at what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: But I also have the hyperlocal look.
Speaker 2: That you can get for three ninety nine or two
Speaker 2: ninety nine whatever they're charging now.
Speaker 1: For Dark sky I was gonna say that's if you're
Speaker 1: into weather, you gotta go Dark Skies because they'll just
Speaker 1: tell you you'll get an alert on your phone and it's
Speaker 1: very ominous. It's gonna rain in four minutes where you.
Speaker 2: Are, and it's usually pretty accurate. I am in the
Speaker 2: market though, for a new weather app. Okay, this isn't
Speaker 2: an I'm in the market for a new weather app
Speaker 2: because I thoroughly believe that they've screwed up the Weather
Speaker 2: dot Com app they've hadded too many graphics and tried
Speaker 2: to turn into like a social thing. This is going
Speaker 2: nowhere on the football side, mind you. But no, that's
Speaker 2: all just expressing my discontent with where they've gone with
Speaker 2: the weather dot com app. So if anyone out there
Speaker 2: has any suggestions, soliverble at gmail dot com let us know.
Speaker 1: Speaking of going nowhere on the football side, it's time
Speaker 1: to talk spring football and Baylor. Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: what school I felt needed to be trolled and roasted whatever,
Speaker 1: but so tell them what we're gonna do here, Ty,
Speaker 1: This is sort of I wouldn't say it's thrown together.
Speaker 1: We've done some prep work, but we have a spring
Speaker 1: forecast and there's not a ton that anybody can glean
Speaker 1: from spring football. But it's kind of cool to see
Speaker 1: the rhythms that new coaches, new quarterbacks, new players, new freshmen,
Speaker 1: new whatever, new systems, whatever, get thrown into the mix
Speaker 1: during the springtime, and it's just sort of an installation process.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you see position changes. You know, wide receivers
Speaker 1: become safeties, quarterbacks become safeties. Basically, it's figuring out who's
Speaker 1: going to become a safety in the fall and it's
Speaker 1: kind of interesting on a number of levels. So I
Speaker 1: think we're going to go across college football and forecast
Speaker 1: a little bit and decide how stormy things are getting
Speaker 1: out of school, if the birds are chirping, if they
Speaker 1: deserve just excellent spring break music, and we'll go across
Speaker 1: the sport and really make some snap judgments based on
Speaker 1: very little in the way of fact. It's a conjecture episode.
Speaker 2: Depending right exactly, depending on your perspective. It's either the
Speaker 2: post postseason or the pre pre pre pre preseason.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, ty nobody pres better than
Speaker 1: tie and down.
Speaker 2: That's right, baby, it is the pre pre preseason. We're
Speaker 2: all start for content as a whole. I think we're
Speaker 2: in agreement that people read way too much into spring
Speaker 2: football and spring storylines. But that being said, it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean they're not interesting. There is some interesting stuff here.
Speaker 2: It speaks to the appetite. It speaks to the appetite.
Speaker 2: We know, if you're listening now, you've got a college
Speaker 2: fooble appetite. And so we've got a bunch of things.
Speaker 2: I actually have no idea what you've got on your list.
Speaker 2: I think I tipped my hand a little bit and
Speaker 2: showed you what I was.
Speaker 1: It's not a mystery episode. I'm just lazy, I can
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now. So we got some
Speaker 1: sound clips, We've got some topics in front of us here,
Speaker 1: things that we're interested in following now spring storylines, Dan,
Speaker 1: why don't you? Why don't you kick off our spring
Speaker 1: forecast here? All right, let's let's start with some stormy
Speaker 1: weather tie because I want a happy ending. Okay, I
Speaker 1: understand how that sounds. That's that's that's extra stormy. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: it is extra stormy. Let's first talk about teams that
Speaker 1: go into the spring with some tumult, with some questions
Speaker 1: that it doesn't look great. And right now, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: exceedingly curious about Baylor because I'm sort of rooting for
Speaker 1: Matt Rule because I really like what he did at
Speaker 1: Temple and Philadelphia and the Owls. But they are overhauling
Speaker 1: scheme with not that many players, right, they are gonna
Speaker 1: move towards a more power spread. I know there was
Speaker 1: a higher away from Chip Kelly's staff when he was
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers, but like what what Matt
Speaker 1: Rule and the Owls did last year at Temple they're
Speaker 1: going to rely on power running, although they will spread
Speaker 1: out and perhaps rely on some quarterback mobility. But the
Speaker 1: numbers are not great and in a big twelve that
Speaker 1: is sort of uncertain. It would have been a very
Speaker 1: good year for Baylor to sort of see consistency. So
Speaker 1: I am I am down right now on Baylor in
Speaker 1: the short term, but curious to see what the new
Speaker 1: look offense starts to look like in Waco. I agree
Speaker 1: and disagree. Okay, why is that?
Speaker 2: I'm I don't find myself all that interested in Baylor
Speaker 2: right now? Okay, I'm curious to see what the new
Speaker 2: direction is, curious to see what Matt Rule does, what
Speaker 2: he installs, how he tries to move that program forward,
Speaker 2: what they do on offense, blah blah blah. Right, the
Speaker 2: reason I'm not interested is because they gave him a
Speaker 2: seven year contract. Even they will acknowledge he needs some
Speaker 2: runway to rebuild what has gone south at Baylor. I
Speaker 2: don't think you're going to see anything groundbreaking this spring,
Speaker 2: maybe even this season. I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: a multi year effort in order to get Baylor back
Speaker 2: to the promised Land. So for me, I might be
Speaker 2: more interested at this time next year, to see the
Speaker 2: foundation that he's built, to see now how he tries
Speaker 2: to get them to the next gear. I am most
Speaker 2: interested to see if Baylor can treat humans all right, Absolutely,
Speaker 2: that's what I would love to absolutely Baylor. So that
Speaker 2: the sound clip is accurate, I agree with you on
Speaker 2: many fronts. I don't find that I am as interested
Speaker 2: as you might be. Do you have a stormy situation.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the quarterback battle at Florida. Oh, I
Speaker 2: have that down here as well. I just want to
Speaker 2: know if this is going to happen or not. For
Speaker 2: Jim mcelwaine, he was an offensive guy at Alabama. He
Speaker 2: did a pretty good job, right, He did a pretty
Speaker 2: good job of Colorado State on offense. That's really been
Speaker 2: the one missing piece when he came over. He took
Speaker 2: over for wilmust Champ, and they didn't have a reliable
Speaker 2: quarterback situation, or just a reliable offense situation. We haven't
Speaker 2: seen that yet. We thought we might see it with
Speaker 2: Will Greer, but that went south in a hurry, and
Speaker 2: since then they've kind of been stumbling over themselves trying
Speaker 2: to figure out where to go next. And they had
Speaker 2: that Treon Harris experiment, which no one felt good about,
Speaker 2: but they were relegated into against their will. Now it's
Speaker 2: going to be who Felippe Franks, Kyle Traust. Both those
Speaker 2: guys are young, and even if they have the best
Speaker 2: offensive scheme in the world, there are going to be
Speaker 2: some growing pains.
Speaker 1: Correct. I'm thinking this is more stormy than not, and
Speaker 1: that's not something that Florida fans want to hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Muschamp guys are gone, a lot of them on defense,
Speaker 1: and even if the quarterback situation improved where it was
Speaker 1: last year and the injury problems dissolve and go away.
Speaker 1: Felibey Franks has a big Army's physically impressive. I think
Speaker 1: he's something like six five big dude. The offensive line
Speaker 1: not great last year. Need to take a few steps forward.
Speaker 1: And who is actually catching the ball for Florida? Even
Speaker 1: if this quarterback whoever it is, turns out to be good,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, there's there's what's it's Tyree Cleveland is
Speaker 1: one of the big hopes. But the numbers, the thin
Speaker 1: nature of that Florida receiving core is pretty scary at
Speaker 1: this point. And I know recruiting had an uptick this
Speaker 1: year for Florida. Mcawayne close strong, but the amount of
Speaker 1: certainty in Gainesville is even lower than usual, which is
Speaker 1: saying a lot considering the tumultuous nature. And maybe that's
Speaker 1: a good thing for him. I don't know. Maybe he
Speaker 1: gets a pass because fans are going to be able
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that up front. But it's been a while,
Speaker 1: that's the point.
Speaker 2: It's been a while since I think a Florida fan
Speaker 2: could look at you and say, I feel good about
Speaker 2: our offensive slash quarterback situation. Maybe this gives you an
Speaker 2: opportunity to start fresh, to build from the ground up.
Speaker 2: I think that's your best hope. But best case scenario
Speaker 2: is a fair amount of growing pains. And so for me,
Speaker 2: that's that's a stormy situation.
Speaker 1: It's it's especially stormy because Florida's what won what They've
Speaker 1: won the East two years in a row now under
Speaker 1: Jim mcawain, and the sense I get from Florida fans
Speaker 1: are sort of just like they're fine with mclwaan, but
Speaker 1: not like the craziest, which is very strange to say
Speaker 1: when you win a division two straight years in a row.
Speaker 1: So the expectations are obviously very high there, but there's
Speaker 1: there's secret unease, I would say with mcawayne among the
Speaker 1: Gator faith.
Speaker 2: The division championships have felt a bit like they've fallen
Speaker 2: off the back of a truck.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, so there's your uncertain all right, where were going?
Speaker 1: Next to you? What's what's the forecast? Dan? Do you
Speaker 1: know what? You have a Michigan thing down here? I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's necessarily stormy. It might be a little
Speaker 1: bit windy. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not what's that indy? Okay? I got I have some
Speaker 1: very specific forecasts. Oh what do you have for Michigan?
Speaker 1: Let's go with this one. Let's talk too hot?
Speaker 2: Okay, too hot for podcasting, too hot for wh Okay?
Speaker 1: What do you got?
Speaker 2: Michigan is going on a field trip. Yeah, this was
Speaker 2: very hot a year ago. Just talk to coaches in
Speaker 2: the SEC. Michigan has now decided that it's going to
Speaker 2: take a euro trip in place of going down to
Speaker 2: Florida for spring break, They're going to Rome, Dan, Yes,
Speaker 2: have you heard about this?
Speaker 1: Do you know about this? I know about the trip.
Speaker 1: It's to be educational in nature, right, of course, and
Speaker 1: when did do you know the exact dates this is happening?
Speaker 1: And I will I read the end of April. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I will be in Rome the very pretty much the
Speaker 1: very beginning of June as part of my honeymoon. Without
Speaker 1: being so I would, I will miss the very educational
Speaker 1: Michigan trip to Rome, which by the way, I'm in
Speaker 1: favor of. Yes see, that's my thing.
Speaker 2: Someone's gonna find a way to be outraged by this,
Speaker 2: and it's fine. People are gonna cite like some schools
Speaker 2: are haves and others are have nots.
Speaker 1: I don't care about that. This to me is a
Speaker 1: cool thing. I'm interested in it because it's it's it's
Speaker 1: odd m hm college football Rome, Okay, that's a weird pairing.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do, as I understand it, a week of
Speaker 1: practice over there. They're gonna see some sites, They're gonna
Speaker 1: do some charitable deeds and visit an orphanage.
Speaker 2: And some other stuff. Pr will put it spin on it.
Speaker 2: They'll make it sound educational and charitable and all that.
Speaker 2: The reason that I am most interested.
Speaker 1: In this, Why Rome, Why not of all the gin
Speaker 1: joints in all the world, In ancient city. They picked
Speaker 1: me to eat really well. Have you been to Rome.
Speaker 1: I've not been to Rome. No. It's supposedly pretty dirty
Speaker 1: and it's enormous and sprawling, but I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: eating well. The pizza crust is supposedly very thin, not
Speaker 1: a fresh ingredients tie lot. It ancient wonders to absorb.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited, and I imagine Michigan people are as well.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely it's an odd pairing to me, like LSU
Speaker 1: going to lambeau Field to play Wisconsin. Oh, it's a
Speaker 1: perfect or Mississippi State going a U Mass last year.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel like it quite matches up.
Speaker 2: I'm not at all outraged by the fact that they're
Speaker 2: going and other schools might not be able to afford it,
Speaker 2: and I am, even though I'm a little bit over
Speaker 2: horbaughed at this point. I am excited for the guaranteed
Speaker 2: picture that you're gonna get of Harbaugh wearing a fanny
Speaker 2: pack or doing something very touristy or immature in Rome.
Speaker 2: Because you know that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I will I will give mister Howbaugh credit for this.
Speaker 1: I think he went away from Dockers. Did you see this.
Speaker 1: It's autia right, it is a slim fit. I believe Lululemon. Okay,
Speaker 1: with Breathless Wonder, we update you on Jim Harbaugh's pantaloons
Speaker 1: that it looks good, Ty, I'm telling you. I mean
Speaker 1: you've lived this firsthand. You go, slim fit. Things are
Speaker 1: looking things looking up. So I'm down good decision making
Speaker 1: early on in the spring. And here's the other thing
Speaker 1: about Michigan that to me makes them a little bit
Speaker 1: windy in the spring, and not necessarily windy in a
Speaker 1: bad way. But I feel like we could be getting
Speaker 1: you know, Mother Nature could be blowing in some changes today. Okay,
Speaker 1: And so I was I go into my trailer voice,
Speaker 1: what was that? Okay, mother Nature? Yeah, come on at WSBM.
Speaker 1: So we have a quarterback situation that is less than
Speaker 1: up in the air, but it's a little bit crazier
Speaker 1: than solidified. Right with the way Wilton Space finished the season,
Speaker 1: I feel like there is going to be more open competition.
Speaker 1: That has led on. Definitely, the offensive line is being rebuilt.
Speaker 1: They're still sort of playing running back by committee. The
Speaker 1: big two receivers and Jake but are gone. That's Amri
Speaker 1: Darbo and Jahu Chessen, the secondary is being rebuilt, a
Speaker 1: lot of big losses up front. Taco Charlton could be
Speaker 1: first second round pick. So I'm wondering, especially now also
Speaker 1: that coupled with the loss of I believe Jed Fish,
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach and whatever passing game coordinator he moves
Speaker 1: on to UCLA. I wonder if there is an element
Speaker 1: of how Jim Harbaugh transformed in a number of ways
Speaker 1: with Colin Kaepernick over Alex Smith when given that opportunity,
Speaker 1: I wonder, I still think the focus will be on power.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be on big offensive linemen,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of that man ball focus. But I
Speaker 1: wonder if it looks the same. I wonder if they
Speaker 1: go a little bit more power, spread that to make
Speaker 1: things potentially a little bit easier for the young talent
Speaker 1: in ann Arbor. I just I wonder if there is
Speaker 1: somewhat of a transformation. It's what Pep Hamilton coming in
Speaker 1: now from after he was fired from the Colts, and
Speaker 1: you know he goes back with Harbaugh to Stanford. I
Speaker 1: wonder if there is some of the latter Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: elements without the having to focus on making big reads
Speaker 1: I just I'd be curious, and I think it'd be
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing.
Speaker 2: He's always been good regardless of personnel, right, so it's
Speaker 2: not a stretch to say that, yeah, he could pull
Speaker 2: the same trick in Michigan. There is some turnover at Michigan.
Speaker 2: It will be an interesting year to follow, to say
Speaker 2: the least. But they're going to Rome, which I think
Speaker 2: is cool. All the other stuff about Michigan football is valid,
Speaker 2: but going to Rome is a different kind of story,
Speaker 2: and I expect that we're going to get some cool
Speaker 2: social media tales that come out of that one.
Speaker 1: Some pump yoores. Absolutely all right, what's our next forecast?
Speaker 2: Daniel?
Speaker 1: So why don't we forecast? So we've talked about new
Speaker 1: qbs in the past in terms of the transfer guys,
Speaker 1: so Jared Stidham, Will Greer, Blake Barnett. We've talked about
Speaker 1: who is the other one in our forestome Oh, Kyle Allen,
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen. It doesn't appear that the huge name now
Speaker 1: eligible quarterback in the Big twelve will actually play significant
Speaker 1: time this year barring an injury. I of course speak
Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray at Oklahoma, but he is a spring
Speaker 1: game All Star. What I am curious though, a couple
Speaker 1: of other names that are coming in as new quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in big spots, and I imagine you have this as well.
Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant at Clemson. He is the odds on favorite
Speaker 1: at the moment, I think to win the job out
Speaker 1: just because he seems like the incumbent and not the incumbent,
Speaker 1: but the incumbent backup to sort of ascend to that level.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in Clemson perhaps not keeping the train
Speaker 1: rolling to the College Football Playoff, but Kelly Bryant being
Speaker 1: in the system long enough and the coach is being
Speaker 1: familiar enough with him to look good in the spring
Speaker 1: and solidify his role. Or do you think it's more
Speaker 1: open than anticipated.
Speaker 2: I'm secret rerooting by the lafers Eric Cooper because his
Speaker 2: name is Xeric Zeric, of course, but you're right, the
Speaker 2: odds on favorite is probably Kelly Bryan at this point.
Speaker 2: Hunter Johnson a name people are excited about. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure how this translates, and I have faith that they
Speaker 2: have recruited talent regardless of whether it's Brian or Johnson.
Speaker 2: They have done so well over the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: both on the recruiting trail and on the field that
Speaker 2: they're going to be fine. Long term, they will be fine.
Speaker 2: I'm just not sure if they're going to live up
Speaker 2: to quite the standard they've set for themselves the last
Speaker 2: couple of years. And that, to me, I think is
Speaker 2: what I am most curious about. To what degree can
Speaker 2: they move forward in a post to Shaan Watson reality.
Speaker 1: Sure it should be noted whoever is starting at quarterback
Speaker 1: will not have Mike Williams. I don't believe. We'll have
Speaker 1: our Tavis Scott's and we'll have Hunter renfro, We'll have
Speaker 1: Deon Kane, Mary McLeod. So weapons certainly there. Defensively, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of big losses up front, but Dexter Lawrence
Speaker 1: people already talking about him as you know, a top one,
Speaker 1: two three pick and next year's draft. Up front, Cordray Tankers,
Speaker 1: Lee's gone, so rebuilding a number of key spots. So
Speaker 1: even if Kelly Bryant is good but not great, I
Speaker 1: think it would be fair to say, and this is
Speaker 1: sort of previewing the season, curious to see what the
Speaker 1: just quarterback battle looks like this spring, because I imagine,
Speaker 1: you know, even with some thin defensive line issues in
Speaker 1: the middle. I think they're going to be fine. And listen,
Speaker 1: Brent Vnnables is still calling place.
Speaker 2: I think they will be absolutely fine, but it's going
Speaker 2: to be a different look on offense. And let's be honest,
Speaker 2: Deshan Watson won a lot of games for him. Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: you want a lot of games for him? Can you
Speaker 2: count on Kelly Bryant or Hunter Johnson.
Speaker 1: Or Zick Cooper?
Speaker 2: Did I don't know you love Zeric? I am a
Speaker 2: Zerch fan. Yeah, okay, but I mean I just I
Speaker 2: don't know what I don't know. Can we count on
Speaker 2: any of these guys? We haven't seen enough of them
Speaker 2: to know anything?
Speaker 1: Right, All right, Okay, don'll be fine. How do we
Speaker 1: want to classify that? Uh? I think things are gonna
Speaker 1: be a little bit windy, but that's okay, go windy.
Speaker 1: Let me feel that wind. Don't feel the wind. Okay,
Speaker 1: it builds. But I will say this, ty, no matter
Speaker 1: what happens this year, I think they're gonna be. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's good, a lot of windy. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be very hat There's a calming hangover effect that even
Speaker 1: when you're not the greatest after you win a championship.
Speaker 1: You just won a championship, and so you can play
Speaker 1: my wild spring break song. Tie. That's how Clemson fings.
Speaker 1: That's how clems and fans are feeling on the inside. Tie.
Speaker 2: All right, let me let me hold off on that one.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Auburn quarterback battle first.
Speaker 1: Okay, is this under the the guys of windyness? It's
Speaker 1: windy Uh, it's also it's rain in sideways. True.
Speaker 2: So we've got ourselves a good old fashioned QB battle
Speaker 2: at Auburn right now. Sean White a name everyone's familiar with,
Speaker 2: Woody Barrett, Malik Willis and oh, Jared Stidham.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shawn White broke an arm. I think you're not
Speaker 1: playing in the spring. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Are we gonna see Jared Stidham? And is he going
Speaker 2: to take the baton once and for all from Shawn White?
Speaker 2: Sewn White was better than I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people realized last year. He completed sixty four percent of
Speaker 2: his passes in eleven games. That is not bad, but
Speaker 2: it's the wrong stat and that's the problem. He had
Speaker 2: just fifty five rushing attempts one hundred and sixty three
Speaker 2: yards rushing all last season. Dan, this is not the
Speaker 2: Gus malzani in offense that we grew accustomed to under
Speaker 2: Cam Newton, even under Nick Marshall. There's a different system
Speaker 2: that they've been running, and it feels to me like
Speaker 2: a bit of an identity crisis. Is Stidham takes the reins,
Speaker 2: what does the offense look like? Because I think he's
Speaker 2: a better runner, and he might be a better thrower
Speaker 2: than Shawn White, but he's certainly not Nick Marshall or
Speaker 2: Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've seen that happy media and
Speaker 1: yet from gusmells on. So that's why I'm curious. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm inclined to say wind Well. First of all,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily put a ton of stock in quarterback
Speaker 1: rushing numbers because of the sack factor that that's included
Speaker 1: in a lot of these statistics. But that said, Sewn
Speaker 1: White beat up certainly was a disappointed disappointment. Had some
Speaker 1: big moments though as well for the Tigers. Here's the
Speaker 1: good news, if not great news for Auburn. They hired
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator who was going to bring new
Speaker 1: things that have succeeded at multiple places in Chip Lindsay
Speaker 1: that I think very well. With Jared Stidham's ability, I
Speaker 1: think they're going to be a little bit more downfield.
Speaker 1: I think they are going to be a bit more
Speaker 1: organized and utilize some of Chip Lindsay's ideas. Who was
Speaker 1: at Arizona State for a year before that. I believe
Speaker 1: he was at Southern Miss and well regarded and has
Speaker 1: a good reputation down there. I would imagine, especially with
Speaker 1: time to sort of look at Stidham's game tape and
Speaker 1: sort of figure them out, and you know, Jared didn't play,
Speaker 1: Jared stidm didn't play last year for his junior college,
Speaker 1: that the offense will be formatted pretty well for him
Speaker 1: from the onset because it would be hard to imagine
Speaker 1: that a player of his caliber is going to come
Speaker 1: in and sit behind anybody. So I think they're in
Speaker 1: a good place. They've got good offensive skill talent, but
Speaker 1: not where it's been these past few years. But if
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Speaker 1: so this could be a mixed bag, so much like
Speaker 1: spring rain one day, Wendy the next, sunshine birds chirpin
Speaker 1: the day after that. Let's talk new coordinators, Ty, Let's
Speaker 1: talk about big assistant hires. Okay, because it's been a
Speaker 1: big spring for that. So we have the new head coaches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in a minute, perhaps at Orgeron,
Speaker 1: Tom Herman, Willie Tagger, PJ. Fleck, who everybody else but
Speaker 1: Nebraska with your boy, Bob Diaco, beautiful Bob great here,
Speaker 1: Doug Meacham in a surprise move to Kansas from TCU.
Speaker 1: Sonny Comby owns that offense out right. Matt Lubick, who
Speaker 1: was at Oregon as their offensive coordinator last year, took
Speaker 1: three different jobs. I believe he's the receivers and passing
Speaker 1: game coordinator at Washington, which I think is a really
Speaker 1: really shrewd and good hire. Kevin Wilson at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I know you're interested in discussing. Yeah, Todd Orlando throwing
Speaker 1: everybody on different sides of the of the defensive alignment
Speaker 1: at Texas as they sort of go to a new
Speaker 1: kind of multiple three four type look Jetfish Ucla, Gem
Speaker 1: Levitt at Oregon, Matt Canada at LSU. Yeah, come on, Ty,
Speaker 1: who where's the passion from you with these assistants. Where's
Speaker 1: the forecast?
Speaker 2: You mentioned Kevin Wilson. I'm interested in Kevin Wilson. He
Speaker 2: is someone We've had him on the show. He was
Speaker 2: unceremoniously let go at Indiana. Now he's landed on his
Speaker 2: feet at Ohio State. A good offensive mind. He's just
Speaker 2: someone that I've always associated more with.
Speaker 1: An air raid. Ran a wide open system at Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: ran a wide open system at Indiana, but got a
Speaker 1: lot of had a lot of success on the ground,
Speaker 1: A lot of success, Howard, Yeah, a lot of success
Speaker 1: on the ground. I'm just curious to see what it
Speaker 1: looks like. He's got JT.
Speaker 2: Barrett, who was not exactly a notable passer a year ago,
Speaker 2: but he's certainly got the tool set that he can
Speaker 2: do whatever he wants, and so I think he's a
Speaker 2: smart guy.
Speaker 1: I think he's a good offensive mind.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see how he assembles the pieces
Speaker 2: and how it relates to what we saw year ago.
Speaker 2: What kind of fixes will he implement to try and
Speaker 2: get more out of that passing game, to me is
Speaker 2: the big question. So I don't know if it's wind,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's rain. Ultimately it's Ohio State, so
Speaker 2: probably more birds singing, you know, probably more birds out
Speaker 2: there by the end of the season. But I'm curious
Speaker 2: to see how it starts, and hopefully hopefully the spring
Speaker 2: game and some of the spring practice reports will give
Speaker 2: us more of an indication as to what's to come there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he certainly has air raid in his pedigree. I
Speaker 1: would argue though, that his offense, especially as a coordinator
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, they were pretty balanced. You know, Sam Bradford
Speaker 1: is the one that gets a sort of a lot of
Speaker 1: the attention, but that offense in general was pretty balanced.
Speaker 1: They put up a ton of yards, they played quickly,
Speaker 1: and urban Meyer is somebody again, Ty, And this is
Speaker 1: something I don't have in front of me. If you
Speaker 1: have us at the top of your head, how many
Speaker 1: points did Ohio States score against Clemson the biggest game
Speaker 1: of the year. HM, that'd be zero point zero. So
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good time to come in and say
Speaker 1: things like I think we should overhaul X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: Now I listen. They got to the College Wall playoffs,
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's a disaster in Columbus, but
Speaker 1: I could see some pretty major tweaks that I'm curious
Speaker 1: to look at in the Ohio State spring game whenever
Speaker 1: that is, I do not have that in front of me,
Speaker 1: but interested to see if there are more manageable horizontal
Speaker 1: passes for J. T. Barrett to get things in a
Speaker 1: rhythm to generate more second and fours. I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see the running back alignments, how they use receivers, because again,
Speaker 1: that's another position group that's going through some changes. So
Speaker 1: I am interested to see because I think we can
Speaker 1: expect at least a somewhat new look Ohio State offense.
Speaker 2: I'm excited about that because they've got the pieces to
Speaker 2: do whatever they want if they want to build something
Speaker 2: really special. Kevin Wilson is probably a bright enough football
Speaker 2: mind to do so and can really get creative if
Speaker 2: you wants absolutely what other offensive coaching change are you
Speaker 2: interested in outside of Ohio State?
Speaker 1: So actually this is sort of it goes hand in
Speaker 1: hand because I'm very curious about what USF is going
Speaker 1: to look like with Sterlin Gilbert Sterlin Gilbert excuse me
Speaker 1: running the offense like he did with Texas for Charlie
Speaker 1: Strong last year. And then of course what Oregon will
Speaker 1: look like with Willy Taggert running a what I assume
Speaker 1: will be a very similar system to what he did
Speaker 1: last year, without a quarterback that had the type of
Speaker 1: mobility that Quintin Flowers had, but still a successful quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let me running that. Let me as Gulf Coast thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me ask you about Oregon. Yes, has it calmed
Speaker 1: down out there?
Speaker 2: Because Willi Taggert got off to a bit of a
Speaker 2: rocky start.
Speaker 1: Ty, we're talking about a Final four type athletic departments.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a Final four caliber. I hope you
Speaker 1: listened to this before Final four happens, or something good
Speaker 1: happens to the final four and you listen to it
Speaker 1: after the fact. But things have calmed down. It seemed
Speaker 1: they signed a good recruiting class. They're going through I
Speaker 1: think workouts right now. Spring practice starts in I don't
Speaker 1: know a week or ten days or so, and I
Speaker 1: think the news coming out of Eugene is basketball and minimal,
Speaker 1: which is how it probably should be at this time
Speaker 1: of the year. So yes, things appear to be quiet
Speaker 1: and honestly ty, this offense is pretty stacked. They return
Speaker 1: basically everybody important. That's a great thing for a new
Speaker 1: coach with an offensive background looking to be wide open
Speaker 1: to have a quarterback with experience. I have skill talent
Speaker 1: led by maybe now the best running back in the
Speaker 1: Pac twelve. Maybe I'm thinking missing somebody. I mean, Miles
Speaker 1: Gaskin's really good, but Royce Young as a higher ceiling.
Speaker 1: I think, so Oregon's in a good place. Curious to
Speaker 1: sy just what that offense looks like if they're looking
Speaker 1: like that Baylor sort of Clemson hybrid that you know
Speaker 1: a lot of heavy rpo stuff that USF was running
Speaker 1: last year, and what Quentin Flowers is able to do
Speaker 1: as a production machine for USF without Willie Tagger running
Speaker 1: the show. All right, so we're playing birds here, let's
Speaker 1: play some birds. I think a very yeah, yeah, absolutely
Speaker 1: very peaceful Dan. Yeah, we've got I mean the ducks
Speaker 1: are birds. Bulls are you know, near birds sometimes? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel good. But on that same note, ty, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got Ed Oorsron defensive background hiring, I think a
Speaker 1: very highly thought of offensive coordinator in Matt Canada. Correct,
Speaker 1: we have Tom Herman going to be running his system
Speaker 1: in Texas. We have PJ. Fleck who comes from an
Speaker 1: offensive background, looks like he's going to be opening things
Speaker 1: up from Minnesota. Any head coach offensive coordinator? You have
Speaker 1: UCLA I think going to stay sort of pro style
Speaker 1: with Jed Fish after their pro style experiment last year
Speaker 1: failed in a big way. What intrigues you in terms
Speaker 1: of new looks this spring offensively?
Speaker 2: I think I'm most interested in Matt Canada at LSU. Okay,
Speaker 2: LSU has been an offense in need of overhaul for
Speaker 2: a while, and Matt Cannon as a guy who comes
Speaker 2: in with much acclaim did wonders and his previous stop obviously,
Speaker 2: and I just want to know what it's going to
Speaker 2: look like. I'm not here to make any predictions. I'm
Speaker 2: not here to really even make any forecasts. I don't
Speaker 2: know insufficient data here, okay to make a forecast. But
Speaker 2: for me, this has always been a situation where there's
Speaker 2: a ton of talent and they've just needed a renovation
Speaker 2: of sorts to get this thing jump started.
Speaker 1: Wendy birds singing, what are we thinking? I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play two at once. There's writing sideways. Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean that feels right, you know, maybe it feels like
Speaker 1: the right reaction. Maybe some growing pains and then a
Speaker 1: beautiful rainbow followed by birds chirping. But the end, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we have a shovel pass sound effect. Now,
Speaker 1: if we did, that would be extremely appropriate. Let's stay
Speaker 1: in the sec west tide because there's been some movement
Speaker 1: in shuffling. Brian, I don't even know he pronounced it.
Speaker 1: I'll find out of it. Actually, Dabble day Bole the
Speaker 1: new Alabama defensive coordinator, relieving long tenured, grizzled tied veteran
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian after he coached for but a game in
Speaker 1: the National Championship Game in Lane Kiffin, so he comes
Speaker 1: over from the Pats. I believe he was an old
Speaker 1: Nick saban Ga at Michigan State, and they also have
Speaker 1: I believe it so like Mike Loxley has been promoted.
Speaker 1: He's a receiver's coach and probably has some sort of
Speaker 1: assistant head coach title. And they hired I believe it's
Speaker 1: two new secret assistants. What do they call it, They
Speaker 1: call analysts. They're secret assistants Chris Wanky and Dan Werner
Speaker 1: who engineered some really good old miss offenses, especially over
Speaker 1: especially over Alabama. They put up like forty points each time.
Speaker 1: So Alabama, you're feeling good. You feel like it's just
Speaker 1: too much attrition too often they return Jalen Hurts. They
Speaker 1: obviously are as talented or more talented that literally everybody,
Speaker 1: is it too much being thrown at this team too quickly?
Speaker 1: How could you ever feel anything other than the hots
Speaker 1: for Alabama? I know, you know things are great until
Speaker 1: they're not.
Speaker 2: This would be like, let's say, an eighty percent chance
Speaker 2: of it being mostly sonny okay, is a twenty percent
Speaker 2: chance that maybe it could go off the rails.
Speaker 1: There's some NFL stink coming in pop.
Speaker 2: Up thunderstorm, isolated thunderstorm, if you want to use the
Speaker 2: official weather speak. But it's Alabama. There's so much talent there.
Speaker 2: You've got a true freshman quarterback from a year ago
Speaker 2: now a year older. You've got all sorts of talent
Speaker 2: around him. I don't care if there is attrition. Nick
Speaker 2: Saban goes like five deep at every.
Speaker 1: Position, mostly Sonny. I feel pretty good. I would say,
Speaker 1: I mean attritionan ultimately will and Alabama, even though Nick
Speaker 1: Saban is a cyborg. I am confident in saying it
Speaker 1: won't be Nick Saban's coaching ability. It will just be
Speaker 1: inconsistency in the people around. So I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to be this seat.
Speaker 2: But do you think that Alabama will end quote unquote
Speaker 2: at any point during the Saban era?
Speaker 1: No, I think Saban is the ultimate and attrition.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I think that's what it's
Speaker 2: going to take in order for the end to occur.
Speaker 2: He's going to need to leave because he's got this
Speaker 2: thing going at a million miles an hour at this point.
Speaker 1: PJ. Fleck, do you think that sort of thing because
Speaker 1: he is along with Tom Herman and I don't say
Speaker 1: this in any sort of derogatory way, pejorative way they're
Speaker 1: buying guys. The success that they had is not necessarily
Speaker 1: rooted in scheme, even though as we've seen, Minnesota moved
Speaker 1: the ball really nicely last year, turned teams over at
Speaker 1: a crazy rate, didn't turn themselves over, didn't turn over
Speaker 1: the ball themselves, and Houston, led by their defense, led
Speaker 1: by the weekend and week out efforts defensively offensively, some
Speaker 1: lackadaisical results because of injuries. But do you feel good
Speaker 1: about PJ. Fleck getting quick buy in starting this spring
Speaker 1: quick buy in?
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, he's that's very good. He's very good at
Speaker 2: building excitement. That's part of his brand, the whole row
Speaker 2: of the boat thing that's coming with him, Okay, coming
Speaker 2: with him from his previous stop. So I think he'll
Speaker 2: get buying the I'm gonna repackage this and throw it
Speaker 2: back at you.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Of these two situations, which one has the highest chance
Speaker 2: for tumultuous weather? Tom Herman at Texas PJ. Fleck at
Speaker 2: Minnesota is one.
Speaker 1: Of these teams in the Big ten West? Correct one
Speaker 1: is yes, So I would say probably Minnesota is clear sailing,
Speaker 1: all things considered, in the short term, just because the
Speaker 1: attention is much brighter on the forty acres. So totally.
Speaker 1: Tom tom Herman brings in his staff was a ga
Speaker 1: for Texas. He is relatively speaking local. This is a
Speaker 1: place that has been in need of an overhaul since
Speaker 1: twenty ten, pretty much, Charlie Strong. You know, for every
Speaker 1: step he took forward, maybe took half a step back,
Speaker 1: just because you got three years, you should be beating
Speaker 1: you should beating Kansas by the end of it. And
Speaker 1: there's just so much more attention. So I think the
Speaker 1: possibility for more tumultuousness in Minnesota did not end the
Speaker 1: year in a particularly good way human wise. No, no,
Speaker 1: but at this point I think it's still you know,
Speaker 1: Texas has the higher ceiling in the lower floor. I
Speaker 1: think you're right on the money.
Speaker 2: Honestly, so much attention on Texas that even if it
Speaker 2: takes Tom Herman a little while longer to build this
Speaker 2: thing up, there will be people who are impatient, who
Speaker 2: aren't willing to wait. I think he will pay almost dividends,
Speaker 2: but that remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: There have been some rumors that they've reached out to
Speaker 1: my boy malik'sayer. This is true.
Speaker 2: Some LEAK'SAIIR versus Shane Buschelle could be an interesting side show,
Speaker 2: but we'll see. I think I think both will have
Speaker 2: positive impacts on their situation. I think PJ. Fleck will
Speaker 2: get a much much longer leash. Obviously he's at Minnesota
Speaker 2: where there aren't traditionally very high football expectations. Certainly Tom
Speaker 2: Herman is going to be under the microscope from day one.
Speaker 1: What do you want to see or hear from either
Speaker 1: of these programs? This spring like news has come out
Speaker 1: of Texas, like Malik Jefferson is moving to outside linebacker,
Speaker 1: Breckenhager is moving to I think middle linebacker from defensive end.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of corners moving to safety.
Speaker 1: Like I said, spring is all about figuring out who's
Speaker 1: now moving to safety. That's all it is. So what
Speaker 1: actual not necessarily progress, but what just update would you
Speaker 1: like on the Texas and Minnesota program.
Speaker 2: I want to see and hear more operational details from
Speaker 2: Tom Herman. I want I ripped up the carpet at
Speaker 2: Texas tie right. I want to hear how they're going
Speaker 2: to change the scheme, even if we don't see it
Speaker 2: on the field in any kind of spring game capacity.
Speaker 2: I want to hear about changes that they're making. I
Speaker 2: want to hear about a plan that he has to
Speaker 2: try and move things forward. What are you going to
Speaker 2: do x y Z. Because we've had him on our
Speaker 2: show in the spring and he was very good at
Speaker 2: doing that. I'd like to hear what his plan is
Speaker 2: to try and put things in a better spot at Texas.
Speaker 2: On the Minnesota side, I think I just want to
Speaker 2: hear about more of the buy in, you know. I
Speaker 2: want to hear about enthusiasm and confidence among the team
Speaker 2: that they can now take this program to the next level,
Speaker 2: because it's going to look different from the way it
Speaker 2: did a year ago. I want to just hear that
Speaker 2: people are buying in, that people are excited, and that
Speaker 2: his brand PJ Flex brand of enthusiasm he's translating to
Speaker 2: another program.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's realistic. I do want to talk
Speaker 1: about I think I just have one more thing on
Speaker 1: my list and I'm somewhat interested in. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about l Ko. You know who l Ko is.
Speaker 1: Enlighten me, Mike Elko, l ko new defensive coordinator, Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: I mean I Brandon Wimbush, new quarterback. He's the guy.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's there's a debate at this point, right, No,
Speaker 1: Brandon Wimbusch is the guy. The offense. It's what Memphis
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator came over. Yep, Chip Long comes over. They
Speaker 1: should have at least a more organized offensive identity this
Speaker 1: coming season, and I think Brian Kelly has sort of
Speaker 1: delegated everything. So defensively was where there were a number
Speaker 1: of issues early on last year. So gone BVG attacking
Speaker 1: aggressive mentality here, the running of four two. They're running
Speaker 1: sort of that like hybrid type system with the rover.
Speaker 1: Are you bullish on one? Notre Dame taking a step
Speaker 1: forward in the spring in terms of, hey, this is
Speaker 1: a new defense we're running, and we have the personnel
Speaker 1: to run this defense and to like actually able to
Speaker 1: execute a good, new, fun, fast defense in the fall. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is they've got a ton of talent. El
Speaker 1: Kale Lko's got a ton of talent.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the stories that gave me hope was it
Speaker 2: was just recently and I forget the publication, but I
Speaker 2: read a story recently about just some of the little
Speaker 2: things that he is demanding of the defensive personnel, and
Speaker 2: there was a quote about you know him, him making
Speaker 2: sure that defensive players sprint to and past a cone.
Speaker 2: You know, it's implying that there are no shortcuts with
Speaker 2: That's the most spring headline totally ever. I love that
Speaker 2: you can only read that in the springtime. But the
Speaker 2: implication is that you're not cutting corners now. So you're right,
Speaker 2: it's a spring headline. Yes, am I confident in it.
Speaker 2: I'm more confident in Elko than I was in Brian
Speaker 2: Van Gorder, I'll tell you that much. But I need
Speaker 2: to see more of a product on the field to
Speaker 2: see how that personnel performs when it's put in different situations.
Speaker 2: So I'm cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 1: Okay. I wish we had a spring fantasy things draft,
Speaker 1: not that we need more things to keep track of,
Speaker 1: but one of my favorite things when a new coach
Speaker 1: is hired and they start doing workouts and they start
Speaker 1: doing spring practice, the stories that trickle out of like
Speaker 1: what was that previous staff even doing? Yeah, what they
Speaker 1: call that weightlifting? What were they even thinking? I love
Speaker 1: the subtle jabs at previous regimes, that new code they
Speaker 1: have to do it. That is just like a thing,
Speaker 1: just like, you have to get an enthusiastic, galvanized fan base.
Speaker 1: You have to convince them that the solution is that, oh,
Speaker 1: these excellent players just weren't trained properly, and we've got
Speaker 1: the guys to come in and really whip them into shape.
Speaker 1: This weird subtweeting that goes on, I'm with you, absolutely
Speaker 1: there is always that, like we changed the weightlifting routine entirely. Oh,
Speaker 1: we have these new drills these players aren't even used
Speaker 1: to in the gym doing reps with the players. The
Speaker 1: players for the first they're throwing up ty. They're being
Speaker 1: worked so hard like they've never been worked before. It's
Speaker 1: my favorite thing that all of a sudden, this new
Speaker 1: coaching staff comes in and these are the masters of
Speaker 1: football training. It's great because the previous staff said the
Speaker 1: same thing about the previous staff. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about Mike Elko from the outside looking in good? I
Speaker 1: think they add an element. Listen, if you're succeeding on
Speaker 1: defense at wake Forest, and yes, wake Forest has gotten
Speaker 1: better in no small part because of the job that
Speaker 1: the coaches did bringing them to a competitive place. Mike
Speaker 1: Elco ran a good defense. It seems everybody has high
Speaker 1: praise for Elco as a you know, his former players
Speaker 1: and former assistants, or at least the ones that aren't
Speaker 1: selling out game plans to opponents. I'm always impressed when
Speaker 1: somebody is able to win at a small place when
Speaker 1: the sort of chips are stacked against them, like is
Speaker 1: the case at Wake Forest a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: So that is an impressive pedigree when you're able to
Speaker 1: succeed on that level. And now that he has better players,
Speaker 1: objectively better players, I would imagine if he is able
Speaker 1: to organize his assistance and you know, keep everything in mind,
Speaker 1: given the challenges at Notre Dame, with it being a
Speaker 1: much bigger place, I'm optimistic. You know, Notre Dame is
Speaker 1: probably too talented to go got hold on. I'm looking
Speaker 1: up their twenty sixteen record. They're too talent did to
Speaker 1: have a losing record again, So I am optimistic that
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's defense will improve.
Speaker 2: All right, let's play birds just to make me feel
Speaker 2: better about things, absolutely, ty.
Speaker 1: Final question, Yeah, please, do you have a spring love story,
Speaker 1: because that is what is in the air in the spring.
Speaker 1: A spring. When did you start dating the solid wife?
Speaker 1: What time of year summer? It was it was summer love, okay,
Speaker 1: Mine was the end of summer. But I've my high
Speaker 1: school girlfriend was a spring love story tie okay, and
Speaker 1: that is that's an intense kind of love tie that
Speaker 1: high school.
Speaker 2: Well, since we're talking about spring, yeah, and since we
Speaker 2: do have a spring break song here, which you wanted
Speaker 2: me to play earlier, and I didn't. Do you have
Speaker 2: any good spring break stories?
Speaker 1: So I don't in terms of me. But I watched
Speaker 1: a lot of MTV spring break tie. I watched the
Speaker 1: spring Breakhouse. You know, all of a sudden, they you know,
Speaker 1: Eminem would be rapping on stage, and I like, God,
Speaker 1: how old must I have been? I'm thirteen, ten twelve,
Speaker 1: you know this special area of oh that sounded weird,
Speaker 1: the special area of your life. And so I never
Speaker 1: actually went to like Pana what is it, Panama Beach,
Speaker 1: Panama City, Panama City, Daytona Beach, Cancun, Cabo. I never
Speaker 1: did that spring break in like high school or college.
Speaker 1: But I would watch that on MTV and think to myself, Man,
Speaker 1: this must be the height of life. Yeah, this must
Speaker 1: be Look at all these girls and bikinis and dudes
Speaker 1: just like bouncing beach balls. I don't know. It's just
Speaker 1: looked like the best possible time to be had was
Speaker 1: at spring break. And then as soon as I got
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to spring break, I emphatically decided,
Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent not doing this. I'm going
Speaker 1: to spring training. I went to the my junior year.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was almost part of what I would very
Speaker 2: generously refer to as an international crime.
Speaker 1: You know me, I mean, I'm a rebel against the law, right,
Speaker 1: But did you smuggle something?
Speaker 2: We were at this port Lukaya, I believe it was
Speaker 2: called in the Bahamas. It was right on, right on,
Speaker 2: like a harbor or a port where ships would come in,
Speaker 2: and there was one boat outside our window. That one night,
Speaker 2: we decided to go and just talk to the owners
Speaker 2: of the boat.
Speaker 1: The foul play spelled.
Speaker 2: Fowl e for you, an Oregon Ducks fan, you might
Speaker 2: appreciate that we just decided to get talking to the
Speaker 2: owners of the boat. Have they invited us on the boat,
Speaker 2: had a couple of drinks. Shortly thereafter, someone else who
Speaker 2: was part of that crew came running back from one
Speaker 2: of the night clubs.
Speaker 1: He had been in a fight. There was an angry mob.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, an angry mob of people chasing behind
Speaker 2: him like that scene out of Happy Gilmore. And if
Speaker 2: it weren't for the Bohemian police, uh huh, the gentlemen
Speaker 2: who were actually steering the boat would have moved port
Speaker 2: to a different island. I was mortified, Dan, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I was on the boat for multiple hours waiting for
Speaker 2: the crowd to disperse. I like that a last I
Speaker 2: got off without being in a different country, a different island,
Speaker 2: or getting my head beaten in Wow, the foul play.
Speaker 1: Good story. I kind of have an idea for a
Speaker 1: secret verbal around this. Okay, we haven't done this in
Speaker 1: a long time, all layers. I'm looking for a good recipient.
Speaker 1: But does an MTV Now show they have like a
Speaker 1: separate channel where they show literally everything that was shown
Speaker 1: in like a certain year, So they'll start like they're
Speaker 1: just gonna air nineteen ninety seven and its entirety for
Speaker 1: a full year, like the commercials, the shows everything, the
Speaker 1: news breaks. I believe it do. So hypothetically, one could
Speaker 1: come across this channel, see an MTV spring break and
Speaker 1: spot a sports writer in the crowd. Okay, correct, that's
Speaker 1: I like where you're going with this. So we have
Speaker 1: to figure out somebody that would be in like their
Speaker 1: thirties probably okay, late thirties. I don't know. It could
Speaker 1: be Spencer Hall, it could be something along there. They're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was just flipping the channels and
Speaker 1: saw you on MTV spring break at like a kid
Speaker 1: rock show. I like where you're going with this, Dan,
Speaker 1: And do you have a recipient Ralph Russo? No, No, okay,
Speaker 1: the little kid from Sports Illustrated for Kids, who's at
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. Dan, how about Martin Rickman? Ooh, I
Speaker 1: like this our old pal Martin. We've not gotten him yet,
Speaker 1: have we? This is true, No, we have not. I
Speaker 1: don't think we have. We take it advantage of our
Speaker 1: position so often that I have no idea what we do.
Speaker 1: So he's up rocks correct, up rocks sports editor. He's wonderful.
Speaker 1: He's one of the nicest humans that exist. Martin Rickman.
Speaker 1: If you are still listening to the show, this is
Speaker 1: the part of the show that we normally do during
Speaker 1: the season. It's called the secret verbal. We want you
Speaker 1: to tweet at Martin very politely, at Martin Rickman r
Speaker 1: C K M A N SO M A R T
Speaker 1: I N R I C K M A N Martin Rickman,
Speaker 1: just as it sounds.
Speaker 2: The least phonetically challenged handle. Absolutely we'll ever give out.
Speaker 2: Tweet at Martin Rickman. Hey, I was just let me
Speaker 2: look at the what the station is called. It's like
Speaker 2: MTV Classic or something like that. Yeah, MTV Classic. Hey
Speaker 2: was just flipping and went to MTV Classic and spotted
Speaker 2: you or saw you, you know at the spring break house,
Speaker 2: you know, at a kid rock show whatever. Just really
Speaker 2: going for it, just getting down, just.
Speaker 1: Having about year two thousand and seven. Let's see kid
Speaker 1: Rock spring Break, kid Rock, MTV spring Break. It would
Speaker 1: have been Yeah, he did BA with Deba in God,
Speaker 1: it looks like nineteen ninety nine, so you went to
Speaker 1: do nineteen ninety nine. That might be a little early
Speaker 1: for Martin. No, that's the point that everybody is just
Speaker 1: over and over, So just tweet him plainly. Do not
Speaker 1: make reference to the solid verbal, do not make reference
Speaker 1: with a hashtag with anything, so there's no tracing it
Speaker 1: back to us. Tweeted Martin Rickman, Hey was just flipping
Speaker 1: to MTV Classic and saw you during the kid Rock
Speaker 1: show at MTV spring Break. So wild hopeball as well,
Speaker 1: something like that. Just you spotted Martin while watching MTV
Speaker 1: Classic at the Kid Rock Show at Spring Break nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine. There it is Dan, I like it. Okay,
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