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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal I'm that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for day Edith State? Is that? Woo whoom? And Dan and.

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Speaker 2: Tie welcome back to the solid Burbo boys and girls.

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Speaker 2: My name is Ty hilde Brand. I'm joined as always

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Speaker 2: if I'm a good friend and colleague can co host

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Speaker 2: many years. Way over there, beautiful New York City. It's sunny, Dan,

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm in the audio mausoleum, which is now ventilated,

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Speaker 1: and I'm wearing short sleeves here today. Ty Ok, I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing a polo shirt. I feel good. I went to

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Speaker 1: the gym this morning. Do you ever work out in

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Speaker 2: I used to try doing it in the mornings, but

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Speaker 2: I'm more of an afterwork kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing the aftercak thing now because when I

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Speaker 1: can get inspired in the mornings, yeah, I feel wonderful. Also,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting married in two months, Ty, so it's time

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Speaker 1: to get swollen. So now what are you doing at

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Speaker 1: the gym? Are you doing weight?

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Speaker 2: So? Trying to slim down? To fit into the suit

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Speaker 2: you haven't bought yet. What's your strategy here?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I just stand in the corner and creep on people. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what I do. Now, I will because I still

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Speaker 1: But at the gym, I'll do some bike stuff. I

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Speaker 1: just started doing. I don't know what they're called. Tie

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Speaker 1: those rope things that the sort of lasso rope things

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, like that Jesse Palmer did it like Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: They're like they're these ropes that are attached to the

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Speaker 1: ground basically, and they're like fifteen feet long. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: you sort of whip them like you are, you know,

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Speaker 1: heading out west in a covered wagon. That's a tough

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Speaker 1: tough workout right there, I tell you. Tie. My core

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Speaker 1: has been better, but it's improving, all right. How you doing? Tire?

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Speaker 2: Your sleeve short? My sleeves are short. I'm wearing the

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Speaker 2: custom uniform of the solid Verble my Haines white T shirt.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: But I too have gone to the gym, though I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing the rope thing. Spring has sprung Dan, it

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Speaker 2: has indeed, and with that in mind.

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Speaker 1: We've got we've got a little bit of a what

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Speaker 1: is this a spring show, a spring forecast, We're calling

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Speaker 1: it spring forecast. You are a big You're a weather buff, right,

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Speaker 1: Love weather? Yeah, love your weather, Love your dopplers? Do

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Speaker 1: you like? Do you have a preferred model? The European

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Speaker 2: Okay, sure, I've I've got several weather apps on on

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Speaker 2: the phone. Usually go on number one Weather dot Com

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Speaker 1: But I also have the hyperlocal look.

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Speaker 2: That you can get for three ninety nine or two

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Speaker 1: For Dark sky I was gonna say that's if you're

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Speaker 1: tell you you'll get an alert on your phone and it's

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Speaker 1: very ominous. It's gonna rain in four minutes where you.

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Speaker 2: Are, and it's usually pretty accurate. I am in the

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Speaker 2: market though, for a new weather app. Okay, this isn't

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Speaker 2: an I'm in the market for a new weather app

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Speaker 2: because I thoroughly believe that they've screwed up the Weather

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Speaker 2: nowhere on the football side, mind you. But no, that's

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Speaker 2: has any suggestions, soliverble at gmail dot com let us know.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of going nowhere on the football side, it's time

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Speaker 1: to talk spring football and Baylor. Okay, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what school I felt needed to be trolled and roasted whatever,

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Speaker 1: but so tell them what we're gonna do here, Ty,

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Speaker 1: This is sort of I wouldn't say it's thrown together.

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Speaker 2: Depending right exactly, depending on your perspective. It's either the

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, ty nobody pres better than

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Speaker 2: That's right, baby, it is the pre pre preseason. We're

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Speaker 2: It speaks to the appetite. It speaks to the appetite.

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Speaker 2: We know, if you're listening now, you've got a college

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Speaker 1: It's not a mystery episode. I'm just lazy, I can

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Speaker 2: I'm I don't find myself all that interested in Baylor

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Speaker 2: don't think you're going to see anything groundbreaking this spring,

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Speaker 2: a multi year effort in order to get Baylor back

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Speaker 2: interested to see if Baylor can treat humans all right, Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: many fronts. I don't find that I am as interested

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the quarterback battle at Florida. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: Correct. I'm thinking this is more stormy than not, and

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Speaker 1: that's not something that Florida fans want to hear. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Muschamp guys are gone, a lot of them on defense,

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since I think a Florida fan

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Speaker 2: our offensive slash quarterback situation. Maybe this gives you an

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Speaker 1: It's it's especially stormy because Florida's what won what They've

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Speaker 1: Jim mcawain, and the sense I get from Florida fans

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Speaker 1: So the expectations are obviously very high there, but there's

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Speaker 2: The division championships have felt a bit like they've fallen

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, so there's your uncertain all right, where were going?

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Speaker 1: Let's go with this one. Let's talk too hot?

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Speaker 2: Okay, too hot for podcasting, too hot for wh Okay?

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Speaker 2: Michigan is going on a field trip. Yeah, this was

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Speaker 1: Do you know about this? I know about the trip.

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Speaker 1: It's to be educational in nature, right, of course, and

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Speaker 2: Someone's gonna find a way to be outraged by this,

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Speaker 2: And some other stuff. Pr will put it spin on it.

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Speaker 1: In this, Why Rome, Why not of all the gin

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Speaker 2: He's always been good regardless of personnel, right, so it's

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Speaker 2: Daniel?

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Speaker 1: So why don't we forecast? So we've talked about new

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Speaker 2: I'm secret rerooting by the lafers Eric Cooper because his

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Speaker 1: Sure it should be noted whoever is starting at quarterback

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Speaker 2: I think they will be absolutely fine, but it's going

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Speaker 2: Did I don't know you love Zeric? I am a

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Speaker 1: Let me feel that wind. Don't feel the wind. Okay,

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Speaker 1: You just won a championship, and so you can play

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Speaker 1: my wild spring break song. Tie. That's how Clemson fings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is this under the the guys of windyness? It's

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Speaker 2: So we've got ourselves a good old fashioned QB battle

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Speaker 1: in a lot of these statistics. But that said, Sewn

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Speaker 1: so this could be a mixed bag, so much like

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Speaker 1: the day after that. Let's talk new coordinators, Ty, Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about big assistant hires. Okay, because it's been a

536
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: big spring for that. So we have the new head coaches. Yeah,

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00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in a minute, perhaps at Orgeron,

538
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: Tom Herman, Willie Tagger, PJ. Fleck, who everybody else but

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Speaker 1: Nebraska with your boy, Bob Diaco, beautiful Bob great here,

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Speaker 1: Doug Meacham in a surprise move to Kansas from TCU.

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Speaker 1: Sonny Comby owns that offense out right. Matt Lubick, who

542
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Speaker 1: was at Oregon as their offensive coordinator last year, took

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Speaker 1: three different jobs. I believe he's the receivers and passing

544
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Speaker 1: game coordinator at Washington, which I think is a really

545
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Speaker 1: really shrewd and good hire. Kevin Wilson at Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I know you're interested in discussing. Yeah, Todd Orlando throwing

547
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Speaker 1: everybody on different sides of the of the defensive alignment

548
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: at Texas as they sort of go to a new

549
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Speaker 1: kind of multiple three four type look Jetfish Ucla, Gem

550
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Speaker 1: Levitt at Oregon, Matt Canada at LSU. Yeah, come on, Ty,

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Speaker 1: who where's the passion from you with these assistants. Where's

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Speaker 1: the forecast?

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Kevin Wilson. I'm interested in Kevin Wilson. He

554
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: is someone We've had him on the show. He was

555
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: unceremoniously let go at Indiana. Now he's landed on his

556
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Speaker 2: feet at Ohio State. A good offensive mind. He's just

557
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Speaker 2: someone that I've always associated more with.

558
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Speaker 1: An air raid. Ran a wide open system at Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: ran a wide open system at Indiana, but got a

560
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Speaker 1: lot of had a lot of success on the ground,

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Speaker 1: A lot of success, Howard, Yeah, a lot of success

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Speaker 1: on the ground. I'm just curious to see what it

563
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Speaker 1: looks like. He's got JT.

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Speaker 2: Barrett, who was not exactly a notable passer a year ago,

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Speaker 2: but he's certainly got the tool set that he can

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Speaker 2: do whatever he wants, and so I think he's a

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Speaker 2: smart guy.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a good offensive mind.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see how he assembles the pieces

570
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Speaker 2: and how it relates to what we saw year ago.

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Speaker 2: What kind of fixes will he implement to try and

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Speaker 2: get more out of that passing game, to me is

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Speaker 2: the big question. So I don't know if it's wind,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's rain. Ultimately it's Ohio State, so

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Speaker 2: probably more birds singing, you know, probably more birds out

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Speaker 2: there by the end of the season. But I'm curious

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Speaker 2: to see how it starts, and hopefully hopefully the spring

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he certainly has air raid in his pedigree. I

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Speaker 1: would argue though, that his offense, especially as a coordinator

582
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Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, they were pretty balanced. You know, Sam Bradford

583
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Speaker 1: is the one that gets a sort of a lot of

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Speaker 1: the attention, but that offense in general was pretty balanced.

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Speaker 1: They put up a ton of yards, they played quickly,

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Speaker 1: and urban Meyer is somebody again, Ty, And this is

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Speaker 1: something I don't have in front of me. If you

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Speaker 1: have us at the top of your head, how many

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Speaker 1: points did Ohio States score against Clemson the biggest game

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Speaker 1: of the year. HM, that'd be zero point zero. So

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty good time to come in and say

592
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Speaker 1: things like I think we should overhaul X, Y and Z.

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Speaker 1: Now I listen. They got to the College Wall playoffs,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like it's a disaster in Columbus, but

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Speaker 1: I could see some pretty major tweaks that I'm curious

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Speaker 1: that is, I do not have that in front of me,

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Speaker 1: but interested to see if there are more manageable horizontal

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Speaker 1: rhythm to generate more second and fours. I'm curious to

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00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: that's another position group that's going through some changes. So

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Speaker 1: I am interested to see because I think we can

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Speaker 1: expect at least a somewhat new look Ohio State offense.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about that because they've got the pieces to

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Speaker 2: do whatever they want if they want to build something

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Speaker 2: really special. Kevin Wilson is probably a bright enough football

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Speaker 2: mind to do so and can really get creative if

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Speaker 2: you wants absolutely what other offensive coaching change are you

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Speaker 2: interested in outside of Ohio State?

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Speaker 1: So actually this is sort of it goes hand in

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Speaker 1: hand because I'm very curious about what USF is going

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00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: to look like with Sterlin Gilbert Sterlin Gilbert excuse me

614
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Speaker 1: running the offense like he did with Texas for Charlie

615
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Speaker 1: Strong last year. And then of course what Oregon will

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Speaker 1: look like with Willy Taggert running a what I assume

617
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: will be a very similar system to what he did

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Speaker 1: last year, without a quarterback that had the type of

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Speaker 1: Let me running that. Let me as Gulf Coast thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you about Oregon. Yes, has it calmed

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Speaker 2: Because Willi Taggert got off to a bit of a

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Speaker 2: rocky start.

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Speaker 1: Ty, we're talking about a Final four type athletic departments.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about a Final four caliber. I hope you

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Speaker 1: after the fact. But things have calmed down. It seemed

630
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: they signed a good recruiting class. They're going through I

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632
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,840
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633
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,360
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00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: which is how it probably should be at this time

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00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: of the year. So yes, things appear to be quiet

636
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: and honestly ty, this offense is pretty stacked. They return

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00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: basically everybody important. That's a great thing for a new

638
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,720
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00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: to have a quarterback with experience. I have skill talent

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Speaker 1: led by maybe now the best running back in the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve. Maybe I'm thinking missing somebody. I mean, Miles

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Speaker 1: Gaskin's really good, but Royce Young as a higher ceiling.

643
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Speaker 1: I think, so Oregon's in a good place. Curious to

644
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: sy just what that offense looks like if they're looking

645
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: like that Baylor sort of Clemson hybrid that you know

646
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: a lot of heavy rpo stuff that USF was running

647
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: last year, and what Quentin Flowers is able to do

648
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: as a production machine for USF without Willie Tagger running

649
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: the show. All right, so we're playing birds here, let's

650
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: play some birds. I think a very yeah, yeah, absolutely

651
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: very peaceful Dan. Yeah, we've got I mean the ducks

652
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: are birds. Bulls are you know, near birds sometimes? So yeah,

653
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: I feel good. But on that same note, ty, yeah,

654
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: we've got Ed Oorsron defensive background hiring, I think a

655
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: very highly thought of offensive coordinator in Matt Canada. Correct,

656
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: we have Tom Herman going to be running his system

657
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: in Texas. We have PJ. Fleck who comes from an

658
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: offensive background, looks like he's going to be opening things

659
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: up from Minnesota. Any head coach offensive coordinator? You have

660
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: UCLA I think going to stay sort of pro style

661
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: with Jed Fish after their pro style experiment last year

662
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: failed in a big way. What intrigues you in terms

663
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: of new looks this spring offensively?

664
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: I think I'm most interested in Matt Canada at LSU. Okay,

665
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: LSU has been an offense in need of overhaul for

666
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: a while, and Matt Cannon as a guy who comes

667
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: in with much acclaim did wonders and his previous stop obviously,

668
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: and I just want to know what it's going to

669
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: look like. I'm not here to make any predictions. I'm

670
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: not here to really even make any forecasts. I don't

671
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: know insufficient data here, okay to make a forecast. But

672
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: for me, this has always been a situation where there's

673
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: a ton of talent and they've just needed a renovation

674
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: of sorts to get this thing jump started.

675
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Wendy birds singing, what are we thinking? I think I'm

676
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: gonna play two at once. There's writing sideways. Okay, I

677
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: mean that feels right, you know, maybe it feels like

678
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: the right reaction. Maybe some growing pains and then a

679
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: beautiful rainbow followed by birds chirping. But the end, I

680
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: don't know if we have a shovel pass sound effect. Now,

681
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: if we did, that would be extremely appropriate. Let's stay

682
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: in the sec west tide because there's been some movement

683
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: in shuffling. Brian, I don't even know he pronounced it.

684
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: I'll find out of it. Actually, Dabble day Bole the

685
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: new Alabama defensive coordinator, relieving long tenured, grizzled tied veteran

686
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian after he coached for but a game in

687
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: the National Championship Game in Lane Kiffin, so he comes

688
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: over from the Pats. I believe he was an old

689
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: Nick saban Ga at Michigan State, and they also have

690
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: I believe it so like Mike Loxley has been promoted.

691
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: He's a receiver's coach and probably has some sort of

692
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: assistant head coach title. And they hired I believe it's

693
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: two new secret assistants. What do they call it, They

694
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: call analysts. They're secret assistants Chris Wanky and Dan Werner

695
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: who engineered some really good old miss offenses, especially over

696
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: especially over Alabama. They put up like forty points each time.

697
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: So Alabama, you're feeling good. You feel like it's just

698
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: too much attrition too often they return Jalen Hurts. They

699
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: obviously are as talented or more talented that literally everybody,

700
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: is it too much being thrown at this team too quickly?

701
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: How could you ever feel anything other than the hots

702
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: for Alabama? I know, you know things are great until

703
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: they're not.

704
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: This would be like, let's say, an eighty percent chance

705
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: of it being mostly sonny okay, is a twenty percent

706
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: chance that maybe it could go off the rails.

707
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: There's some NFL stink coming in pop.

708
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Up thunderstorm, isolated thunderstorm, if you want to use the

709
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: official weather speak. But it's Alabama. There's so much talent there.

710
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: You've got a true freshman quarterback from a year ago

711
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: now a year older. You've got all sorts of talent

712
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: around him. I don't care if there is attrition. Nick

713
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: Saban goes like five deep at every.

714
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Position, mostly Sonny. I feel pretty good. I would say,

715
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean attritionan ultimately will and Alabama, even though Nick

716
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Saban is a cyborg. I am confident in saying it

717
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: won't be Nick Saban's coaching ability. It will just be

718
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: inconsistency in the people around. So I don't think it's

719
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: going to be this seat.

720
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: But do you think that Alabama will end quote unquote

721
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: at any point during the Saban era?

722
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: No, I think Saban is the ultimate and attrition.

723
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I think that's what it's

724
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: going to take in order for the end to occur.

725
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: He's going to need to leave because he's got this

726
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: thing going at a million miles an hour at this point.

727
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: PJ. Fleck, do you think that sort of thing because

728
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: he is along with Tom Herman and I don't say

729
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: this in any sort of derogatory way, pejorative way they're

730
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: buying guys. The success that they had is not necessarily

731
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: rooted in scheme, even though as we've seen, Minnesota moved

732
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: the ball really nicely last year, turned teams over at

733
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: a crazy rate, didn't turn themselves over, didn't turn over

734
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 1: the ball themselves, and Houston, led by their defense, led

735
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: by the weekend and week out efforts defensively offensively, some

736
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: lackadaisical results because of injuries. But do you feel good

737
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: about PJ. Fleck getting quick buy in starting this spring

738
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: quick buy in?

739
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, he's that's very good. He's very good at

740
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: building excitement. That's part of his brand, the whole row

741
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: of the boat thing that's coming with him, Okay, coming

742
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: with him from his previous stop. So I think he'll

743
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: get buying the I'm gonna repackage this and throw it

744
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: back at you.

745
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

746
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: Of these two situations, which one has the highest chance

747
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: for tumultuous weather? Tom Herman at Texas PJ. Fleck at

748
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: Minnesota is one.

749
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: Of these teams in the Big ten West? Correct one

750
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: is yes, So I would say probably Minnesota is clear sailing,

751
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: all things considered, in the short term, just because the

752
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: attention is much brighter on the forty acres. So totally.

753
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: Tom tom Herman brings in his staff was a ga

754
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: for Texas. He is relatively speaking local. This is a

755
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: place that has been in need of an overhaul since

756
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: twenty ten, pretty much, Charlie Strong. You know, for every

757
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: step he took forward, maybe took half a step back,

758
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: just because you got three years, you should be beating

759
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: you should beating Kansas by the end of it. And

760
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: there's just so much more attention. So I think the

761
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: possibility for more tumultuousness in Minnesota did not end the

762
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: year in a particularly good way human wise. No, no,

763
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: but at this point I think it's still you know,

764
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Texas has the higher ceiling in the lower floor. I

765
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: think you're right on the money.

766
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: Honestly, so much attention on Texas that even if it

767
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: takes Tom Herman a little while longer to build this

768
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: thing up, there will be people who are impatient, who

769
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: aren't willing to wait. I think he will pay almost dividends,

770
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: but that remains to be seen.

771
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: There have been some rumors that they've reached out to

772
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: my boy malik'sayer. This is true.

773
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: Some LEAK'SAIIR versus Shane Buschelle could be an interesting side show,

774
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: but we'll see. I think I think both will have

775
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: positive impacts on their situation. I think PJ. Fleck will

776
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: get a much much longer leash. Obviously he's at Minnesota

777
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: where there aren't traditionally very high football expectations. Certainly Tom

778
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: Herman is going to be under the microscope from day one.

779
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: What do you want to see or hear from either

780
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: of these programs? This spring like news has come out

781
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: of Texas, like Malik Jefferson is moving to outside linebacker,

782
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: Breckenhager is moving to I think middle linebacker from defensive end.

783
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of corners moving to safety.

784
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, spring is all about figuring out who's

785
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: now moving to safety. That's all it is. So what

786
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: actual not necessarily progress, but what just update would you

787
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: like on the Texas and Minnesota program.

788
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: I want to see and hear more operational details from

789
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: Tom Herman. I want I ripped up the carpet at

790
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: Texas tie right. I want to hear how they're going

791
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: to change the scheme, even if we don't see it

792
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: on the field in any kind of spring game capacity.

793
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: I want to hear about changes that they're making. I

794
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: want to hear about a plan that he has to

795
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: try and move things forward. What are you going to

796
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: do x y Z. Because we've had him on our

797
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: show in the spring and he was very good at

798
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: doing that. I'd like to hear what his plan is

799
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 2: to try and put things in a better spot at Texas.

800
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: On the Minnesota side, I think I just want to

801
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: hear about more of the buy in, you know. I

802
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: want to hear about enthusiasm and confidence among the team

803
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: that they can now take this program to the next level,

804
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: because it's going to look different from the way it

805
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: did a year ago. I want to just hear that

806
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: people are buying in, that people are excited, and that

807
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: his brand PJ Flex brand of enthusiasm he's translating to

808
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: another program.

809
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: I think that's that's realistic. I do want to talk

810
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: about I think I just have one more thing on

811
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: my list and I'm somewhat interested in. I want to

812
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: talk about l Ko. You know who l Ko is.

813
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: Enlighten me, Mike Elko, l ko new defensive coordinator, Notre Dame.

814
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: I mean I Brandon Wimbush, new quarterback. He's the guy.

815
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: I don't think that's there's a debate at this point, right, No,

816
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Wimbusch is the guy. The offense. It's what Memphis

817
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator came over. Yep, Chip Long comes over. They

818
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: should have at least a more organized offensive identity this

819
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: coming season, and I think Brian Kelly has sort of

820
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: delegated everything. So defensively was where there were a number

821
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: of issues early on last year. So gone BVG attacking

822
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: aggressive mentality here, the running of four two. They're running

823
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: sort of that like hybrid type system with the rover.

824
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: Are you bullish on one? Notre Dame taking a step

825
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: forward in the spring in terms of, hey, this is

826
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: a new defense we're running, and we have the personnel

827
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: to run this defense and to like actually able to

828
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: execute a good, new, fun, fast defense in the fall. Well,

829
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: the thing is they've got a ton of talent. El

830
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: Kale Lko's got a ton of talent.

831
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Dan.

832
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

833
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: One of the stories that gave me hope was it

834
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: was just recently and I forget the publication, but I

835
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: read a story recently about just some of the little

836
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: things that he is demanding of the defensive personnel, and

837
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: there was a quote about you know him, him making

838
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: sure that defensive players sprint to and past a cone.

839
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's implying that there are no shortcuts with

840
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: That's the most spring headline totally ever. I love that

841
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: you can only read that in the springtime. But the

842
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: implication is that you're not cutting corners now. So you're right,

843
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: it's a spring headline. Yes, am I confident in it.

844
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm more confident in Elko than I was in Brian

845
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: Van Gorder, I'll tell you that much. But I need

846
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: to see more of a product on the field to

847
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: see how that personnel performs when it's put in different situations.

848
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: So I'm cautiously optimistic.

849
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Okay. I wish we had a spring fantasy things draft,

850
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: not that we need more things to keep track of,

851
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: but one of my favorite things when a new coach

852
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: is hired and they start doing workouts and they start

853
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: doing spring practice, the stories that trickle out of like

854
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: what was that previous staff even doing? Yeah, what they

855
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: call that weightlifting? What were they even thinking? I love

856
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: the subtle jabs at previous regimes, that new code they

857
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: have to do it. That is just like a thing,

858
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: just like, you have to get an enthusiastic, galvanized fan base.

859
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: You have to convince them that the solution is that, oh,

860
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: these excellent players just weren't trained properly, and we've got

861
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: the guys to come in and really whip them into shape.

862
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: This weird subtweeting that goes on, I'm with you, absolutely

863
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: there is always that, like we changed the weightlifting routine entirely. Oh,

864
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: we have these new drills these players aren't even used

865
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: to in the gym doing reps with the players. The

866
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: players for the first they're throwing up ty. They're being

867
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: worked so hard like they've never been worked before. It's

868
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: my favorite thing that all of a sudden, this new

869
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: coaching staff comes in and these are the masters of

870
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: football training. It's great because the previous staff said the

871
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: same thing about the previous staff. How do you feel

872
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: about Mike Elko from the outside looking in good? I

873
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: think they add an element. Listen, if you're succeeding on

874
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: defense at wake Forest, and yes, wake Forest has gotten

875
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: better in no small part because of the job that

876
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: the coaches did bringing them to a competitive place. Mike

877
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: Elco ran a good defense. It seems everybody has high

878
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: praise for Elco as a you know, his former players

879
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: and former assistants, or at least the ones that aren't

880
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: selling out game plans to opponents. I'm always impressed when

881
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: somebody is able to win at a small place when

882
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: the sort of chips are stacked against them, like is

883
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: the case at Wake Forest a lot of the time.

884
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: So that is an impressive pedigree when you're able to

885
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: succeed on that level. And now that he has better players,

886
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: objectively better players, I would imagine if he is able

887
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: to organize his assistance and you know, keep everything in mind,

888
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: given the challenges at Notre Dame, with it being a

889
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: much bigger place, I'm optimistic. You know, Notre Dame is

890
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: probably too talented to go got hold on. I'm looking

891
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: up their twenty sixteen record. They're too talent did to

892
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: have a losing record again, So I am optimistic that

893
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's defense will improve.

894
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's play birds just to make me feel

895
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: better about things, absolutely, ty.

896
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: Final question, Yeah, please, do you have a spring love story,

897
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: because that is what is in the air in the spring.

898
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: A spring. When did you start dating the solid wife?

899
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: What time of year summer? It was it was summer love, okay,

900
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: Mine was the end of summer. But I've my high

901
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: school girlfriend was a spring love story tie okay, and

902
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: that is that's an intense kind of love tie that

903
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: high school.

904
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: Well, since we're talking about spring, yeah, and since we

905
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: do have a spring break song here, which you wanted

906
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: me to play earlier, and I didn't. Do you have

907
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: any good spring break stories?

908
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: So I don't in terms of me. But I watched

909
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of MTV spring break tie. I watched the

910
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: spring Breakhouse. You know, all of a sudden, they you know,

911
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Eminem would be rapping on stage, and I like, God,

912
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: how old must I have been? I'm thirteen, ten twelve,

913
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: you know this special area of oh that sounded weird,

914
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: the special area of your life. And so I never

915
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: actually went to like Pana what is it, Panama Beach,

916
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: Panama City, Panama City, Daytona Beach, Cancun, Cabo. I never

917
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: did that spring break in like high school or college.

918
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: But I would watch that on MTV and think to myself, Man,

919
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: this must be the height of life. Yeah, this must

920
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: be Look at all these girls and bikinis and dudes

921
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: just like bouncing beach balls. I don't know. It's just

922
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: looked like the best possible time to be had was

923
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: at spring break. And then as soon as I got

924
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to spring break, I emphatically decided,

925
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent not doing this. I'm going

926
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: to spring training. I went to the my junior year.

927
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I was almost part of what I would very

928
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: generously refer to as an international crime.

929
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: You know me, I mean, I'm a rebel against the law, right,

930
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: But did you smuggle something?

931
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: We were at this port Lukaya, I believe it was

932
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: called in the Bahamas. It was right on, right on,

933
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: like a harbor or a port where ships would come in,

934
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: and there was one boat outside our window. That one night,

935
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: we decided to go and just talk to the owners

936
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: of the boat.

937
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: The foul play spelled.

938
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: Fowl e for you, an Oregon Ducks fan, you might

939
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: appreciate that we just decided to get talking to the

940
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: owners of the boat. Have they invited us on the boat,

941
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: had a couple of drinks. Shortly thereafter, someone else who

942
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: was part of that crew came running back from one

943
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: of the night clubs.

944
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: He had been in a fight. There was an angry mob.

945
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, an angry mob of people chasing behind

946
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: him like that scene out of Happy Gilmore. And if

947
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: it weren't for the Bohemian police, uh huh, the gentlemen

948
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: who were actually steering the boat would have moved port

949
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: to a different island. I was mortified, Dan, Yeah, absolutely,

950
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: I was on the boat for multiple hours waiting for

951
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: the crowd to disperse. I like that a last I

952
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: got off without being in a different country, a different island,

953
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: or getting my head beaten in Wow, the foul play.

954
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: Good story. I kind of have an idea for a

955
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: secret verbal around this. Okay, we haven't done this in

956
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: a long time, all layers. I'm looking for a good recipient.

957
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: But does an MTV Now show they have like a

958
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: separate channel where they show literally everything that was shown

959
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: in like a certain year, So they'll start like they're

960
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: just gonna air nineteen ninety seven and its entirety for

961
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: a full year, like the commercials, the shows everything, the

962
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: news breaks. I believe it do. So hypothetically, one could

963
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: come across this channel, see an MTV spring break and

964
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: spot a sports writer in the crowd. Okay, correct, that's

965
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: I like where you're going with this. So we have

966
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: to figure out somebody that would be in like their

967
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: thirties probably okay, late thirties. I don't know. It could

968
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: be Spencer Hall, it could be something along there. They're like,

969
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was just flipping the channels and

970
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: saw you on MTV spring break at like a kid

971
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: rock show. I like where you're going with this, Dan,

972
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: And do you have a recipient Ralph Russo? No, No, okay,

973
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: the little kid from Sports Illustrated for Kids, who's at

974
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. Dan, how about Martin Rickman? Ooh, I

975
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: like this our old pal Martin. We've not gotten him yet,

976
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: have we? This is true, No, we have not. I

977
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: don't think we have. We take it advantage of our

978
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: position so often that I have no idea what we do.

979
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: So he's up rocks correct, up rocks sports editor. He's wonderful.

980
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: He's one of the nicest humans that exist. Martin Rickman.

981
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: If you are still listening to the show, this is

982
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: the part of the show that we normally do during

983
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: the season. It's called the secret verbal. We want you

984
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: to tweet at Martin very politely, at Martin Rickman r

985
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: C K M A N SO M A R T

986
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: I N R I C K M A N Martin Rickman,

987
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: just as it sounds.

988
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: The least phonetically challenged handle. Absolutely we'll ever give out.

989
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: Tweet at Martin Rickman. Hey, I was just let me

990
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: look at the what the station is called. It's like

991
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: MTV Classic or something like that. Yeah, MTV Classic. Hey

992
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: was just flipping and went to MTV Classic and spotted

993
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: you or saw you, you know at the spring break house,

994
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, at a kid rock show whatever. Just really

995
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: going for it, just getting down, just.

996
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: Having about year two thousand and seven. Let's see kid

997
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: Rock spring Break, kid Rock, MTV spring Break. It would

998
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: have been Yeah, he did BA with Deba in God,

999
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: it looks like nineteen ninety nine, so you went to

1000
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: do nineteen ninety nine. That might be a little early

1001
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: for Martin. No, that's the point that everybody is just

1002
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: over and over, So just tweet him plainly. Do not

1003
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: make reference to the solid verbal, do not make reference

1004
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: with a hashtag with anything, so there's no tracing it

1005
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: back to us. Tweeted Martin Rickman, Hey was just flipping

1006
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: to MTV Classic and saw you during the kid Rock

1007
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: show at MTV spring Break. So wild hopeball as well,

1008
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: something like that. Just you spotted Martin while watching MTV

1009
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: Classic at the Kid Rock Show at Spring Break nineteen

1010
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: ninety nine. There it is Dan, I like it. Okay,

1011
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,800
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Speaker 2: Hope you have a sunny week and weekend and we'll

1023
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,160
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1024
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:35,840
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