1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of individuals out there that's saying, don't 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: nobody feel street no more? And every time they give 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: me an example, they talking about somebody that's ramping on beats. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: I think the general public does not understand the graduation 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: process from people that come from the inner city. You 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: graduate from a street nigga's a stab you in the 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: back with a smile on their face. See. I learned 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: this when I got in the game. The first thing 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: they teach you soon you cross over in the industry 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: is how to play dodgeball with your people. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: Especially people that were close to me. And I'll explain so, 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: like you know, when those type of things happen, people run. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: They don't care what happened. They don't care. They's like, 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: save yourself. Yeah, you know. So I partners, you know, 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: after deals with because my guy from m vmha, man, 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: this is coming and I can't get rid of it. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: I can't take a settlement. 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: And while I do understand why distance itself from Diddy, 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I do understand and see why some people had that 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: conversation under their breath, like whatever happened to Jay and Diddy? 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Because jay Z goes from gangster rap, street rap New 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: York B boy type dude till he pops up in 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: a shiny suit. Now, if I'm Diddy, I'm saying, that's 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: my game. Z pop out in the shiny suit. If 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm Diddy and I look at him, now, I'm mad 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: at you because that game unlocked your next level. You 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: got that level of game from me. I ain't saying 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: come out and support me. Just don't say nothing. 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: What does it mean to you to be at the 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: helm of the cultural events so important as it's the 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: Super Bowl? 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: I think everyone should should experience music in his totality, 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: and for a lot of years there was only one 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: side of music that was being represented. 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I disagree with putting a dish record, calling Drake 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: a PDF on the main stage or have ad it 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: have fun. 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: It's almost like on just me by the way they 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: drag everybody in there, like everyone's part of this conspiracy 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: to undermine Drake. 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: I guess it's something that mainstream doesn't know about. You 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: and jay Z have different avenues to amplify that, and 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you sacrifice one of ours. You 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: don't sacrifice one of your own to push battling up 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: a little bit sacrifice one of our biggest artists. Maybe 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: when jay Z looks at Coach, he says, yeah, that's 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: not one ours, and you're welcome to us up there, podcast. 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: I am big on your active and attractive host for 49 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: another episode of the Fast Grown Podcast. Ah man, it's 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: been a minute. It's been a minute. I'll be honest. 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: I was floating around the idea of cutting down on 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: doing solo podcasts, but there was an overwhelming request that 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: I get back in, so I'm gonna give it, give 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: it another goal. You know, the business can sustain with 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: me dealing with my Patreon people and with us dealing 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: with the interview side of the business also, I think, 57 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: because I can always fall back on the strength what 58 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm really trying to do, Just to give y'all some 59 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: insight on even why the decision is being floated around. 60 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: It's a number of things, right, some things behind the scenes, 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: some things in front of the camera. But what I'm 62 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: trying to do as it pertains to a business for 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: me and particularly is I'm positioning myself to require more 64 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: from the interview side of the business. Somewhere in that, 65 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: I guess there's some space in room. And why I'm 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: capable of saying that. Sometimes I feel it's undervalue, and 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: then I look myself in the mirror and say, look 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: where you came from. You did that from doing solo 69 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: episode like I for the most part, I really got 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: rich and got on and got my notoriety from solo episodes. 71 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: I was the first podcast that approached the market podcast 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: market without a co host. That was none be for me. 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: And so when you go and do through the record 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: books and you pay attention to that, and I came out, 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: I was on fire man. I had so much to 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: say and was filled with so much and today we're 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna get into some of it. And this is why 78 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying about the universe right, it's completely perfect because 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: while I'm floating that idea around, right and for me 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: to justify it, and because I don't give up on things, 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: and I don't even view it as a give up, 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: because I would have viewed it as yo. 83 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: Loan. 84 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: What you're doing is you're forcing the interview side of 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: the business to keep up, because when I get into 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: those conversations, I can always talk about yo. We also 87 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: got the solo side of the business, like loun can 88 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: go out on his own and do three hundred thousand 89 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: with no guests. So pitch, if we scale that up 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: and he does that two or three four times a week, 91 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: and then we get consistent with that, and then the 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: audience is waiting on that, and we can have a 93 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: show that's doing five six seven million a week just 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: with him solo, nobody else over. He lows right. So 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: from a business perspective, it makes sense to double down 96 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: on that. And so that's my thought process. But at 97 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: the same time, you got to remember, as a businessman, 98 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: I have an entire payroll. I got a staff that 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: I pay that is only there to strengthen the interview 100 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: side of the business. And of course you know some 101 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: of the administrative things on the backside. But while this 102 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: is going on, and while I'm flowing these ideas around, 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Jay Z comes out with an interview. I said, see, 104 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: this is what I love about the universe. It'll answer 105 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: you if you're paying attention, if you're listening, if you're looking, 106 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: if you're alert. I call it bluetooth mold. There's so 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: much I can talk, like, I got so much to 108 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: talk about, Like even right now, we got to deal 109 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: with the fact that there's a lot of individuals out 110 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: there that saying, don't nobody feel street niggas no more? 111 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: And every time they give me an example, they talking 112 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: about some nigga that's ramping on beats. I think the 113 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: general public does not understand the graduation process from people 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: that come from the inner city. You graduate from a 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: street nigga. Today we're gonna get into some of this. 116 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Of course, you know, I don't take notes. I go 117 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: straight off the top of the head. I think that 118 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: speaks to our ability to survive man in deep waters, 119 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: with anybody, with any one of these gentlemen. And I 120 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: thank y'all for being here today. Come to patreon dot 121 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: com to support me. Right now, be a really great 122 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: time to support me, because as I look around, you know, 123 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know how to feel about a 124 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: lot of these individuals. And then I got to talk 125 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: about Rolloh and Thug and baby and all these different things, 126 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: right wood and all this shit. See one thing, you 127 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: gotta know, I'm extremely intelligent, and I hate to be 128 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: vain and say that, but somebody got to say it. 129 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Somebody gotta say it. See sometime I look around like, 130 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: ain't nobody somebody gotta say it. Even the motherfuckers you 131 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: think know it. I know you niggas know it. Somebody 132 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: gotta say it, though I ain't gonna be afraid to 133 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: say it. I stand on business. I'm too smart to 134 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: be bitter. But one of the more hurtful things I'm 135 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: seeing lately, Like I'm seeing a lot of things happening, 136 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: but it's a few things I'm gonna speak to today, And 137 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: so as I look around at the game, I'm looking 138 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: for other than me. I'm like, yo, if I don't 139 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: say nothing like these niggas all say it right, Like 140 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: these boys that get it done right, they'll be able 141 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: to say it right. They'll be able to put it together. 142 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: They'll keeep it right. We all big dogs, right. I 143 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: never hear it. What is it someone that can articulate 144 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: the intricate details to pathway, what it takes to navigate 145 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: those shallow waters that we call the ghetto, that y'all 146 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: call the inner city, that I can identify with, but 147 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I escaped. It's a movement that eighty percent and I 148 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 1: being charitable, eighty percent of black men and black boys 149 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: getting identified with it, even if they haven't lived it. 150 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: They got a cousin that did they got an auntie? 151 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: That did? They gotta you dig? So we're dealing with 152 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: resources for the boots on the ground. And that, my friend, 153 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: has been the thing that has frustrated me the most 154 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: about this game, because I'm thinking about them like, yo, loan, 155 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: you got in, you got rich. Everything's going great, the 156 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: business is booming, your overhead is low. You just did this, 157 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: that and the third you just cast out on. You're 158 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: doing tremendous. What's the problem. And I took a look 159 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: at myself because I take hard looks at myself here 160 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: and that I do inventory, personal inventory, And I said, 161 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: you know what it is? Long there you go, trying 162 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: to help everybody. You're looking at the game and you're saying, 163 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: oh fuck, that's the fucking dot. There you go. They're 164 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: looking at it as entertainment, still loan. They ain't looking 165 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: at it as the pathway. They ain't looking at it 166 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: as the resources loan. That's the problem. Sometimes I look 167 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: at all these niggas, they fighting and boxing and laughing 168 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: and joking, and I say, God, why I can't get 169 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: on the mic and play God? Why when I come 170 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: I gotta always be a minister Lord? Why I can't 171 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: get on the mic and just get on here, keep 172 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: kidding cock card and laid back like Joe Button. Why 173 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: don't get them kind of I've been cursed with being 174 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: able to see the other side. So while they looking 175 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: at this shit it's just random interviews and random people speaking, 176 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: I look at it as this is a rare opportunity 177 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: to pass down information that to people that you may 178 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: never encounter but can help a bunch of motherfuckers. And 179 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: how do I know Because I got what I got 180 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: only because Niggas was so forthcoming in the early years 181 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: while they was working it out, it was beautiful. The 182 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: CEA go broke and come out and speaker. I mean 183 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: that right now and so and he said, this family 184 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: and trying to fit what's going on. I'm trying, Nigga, 185 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: I know, I'm what the and so for him to 186 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: work that out in real time in front of us, 187 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: us creators, it gave us a handbook. It gave us insight, 188 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: It was introspective, it was real value. See, I'm from 189 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: the golden age of content and I'm having trouble adjusting. 190 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I come from the age when you see an interview 191 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: and it come out and you say, you know, what 192 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: oh shit, J just sat down. Nigga is right here. 193 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: Nigga companies get started based on these interviews. Bills get restruction. 194 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Conversations are different. Friend, leverage is found from some of 195 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: these motherfucking interviews, Nigga. And I said, that's the difference. 196 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: I look at it like a handbook. I'm looking at 197 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: it like when we when we talking to each other, Nigga, 198 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: we talking to some of these people. And so that's 199 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: why I'm saying, number one, they can't respect this kind 200 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: of game. It's too high level, it's too potent. The 201 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: soda don't even do nothing to it. You can cut 202 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: this shit. Ain't nothing going on. This is really potent 203 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: shit that I got going on. So number one, it's 204 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: the spirit of Tupac when they know I can speak 205 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: that hustle of shit. I can't live it no more, Nigga. 206 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm too important, and so you ain't gonna be able 207 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: to trick me into living it. I got off on 208 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: a tangent. You know the funny thing about the game 209 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: when I first got in, and I'm still passionate, but 210 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: I get it. I get how niggas get a few 211 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: dollars and say, man, fuck out there fighting for this shit. Nigga, 212 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: I got what I'm a half nigga. This shit here 213 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: old it. I ain't finna keep fighting for this shit. 214 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: You know, in this game, it teaches you a lot 215 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: of things. The thing about how it teaches you is 216 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: the impressive thing. It's not in the traditional format. Niggas 217 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: will stab you in the back with a smile on 218 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: their face. It's like a new little twist st on it. 219 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: You know. 220 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: They'll pencil whip you, they have dinner with your mother, 221 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: They'll promise you and your family things, and then disappear 222 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: on you and think there's no calmer retribution. One of 223 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: the more uncomfortable things for people like me in particular, 224 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: the ones that can't be changed by the game. It's 225 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: that as you get old, see you still biting with 226 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: your teeth faint. You understand what I'm saying. I come 227 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: from a game. It's what we do. You dig what 228 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, nigga might come spend a fifty 229 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: witch and then soon you take man that niggas selling 230 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: bad work. Shit ain't no good man the here, you 231 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we come from a place 232 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: where business was never personal and so I won't say 233 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: this game is much different in that aspect, but I 234 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: do know that it's a sad day when a hustler 235 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: or a real one, he been biting at it so 236 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: long and fighting back so long, and fighting at it 237 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: so long and keeping it real so long that he 238 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: just lay on down. Fucking fuck all this keeping it 239 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: real shit, nigga fuck all love. That's one thing this 240 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: game try to teach you how to do. Say br 241 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: you already got it, laid on down family, Fuck them niggas, 242 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: all that helping niggas, all that looking back, man, it 243 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: costs you more than it here. Niggas that go out 244 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: and start really campaigning about fuck them niggas after they 245 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: done got rich, run your whole campaign on I fuck 246 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: with us and it's about us get rich. And then 247 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: it turned in to fuck them nigga us because it 248 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: costs them too much to help. Now it's inconvenience, and 249 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: when you get rich, everything is about convenience. Even when 250 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: these niggas speak up for black people, it's quite convenient 251 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: at the times that they come out and speak because 252 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: if niggas was truly big, homeis we in the South 253 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: right now? We need an emergency meeting. But it's our 254 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: peons in position. Too many niggas with egos. I'm always 255 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: tell you to take care of yourself. I ain't gonna 256 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: never holler. Just fuck them niggas, because I understand the pathway, 257 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: the small percentage of us that's even gonna make it 258 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: through them all fucking cross the border over here into 259 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: this other little area where you can make money and 260 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: do some legal shit. Nigga. That's like crossing the border 261 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: for an immigrant. And so I can't see myself cutting 262 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: the board off, But I watch these bitch ass niggas 263 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: run around and get money, and the first thing they 264 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: do is cut the boarder off. Damn homie, how many 265 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Lamborghinis you need? We all got money, Nigga. Ain't gonna 266 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: shut these folks lights off. If anything, I'm gonna say, 267 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it in the I'm gonna leave it 268 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: in the books. I'm gonna leave it on the pause. 269 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it in the interviews. Go get it, 270 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: young nigga. That's how I'm coming. I'm gonna every time 271 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I speak Die Jessey, go get it, young nigga. I 272 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: can't talk to everybody I'm an old man. I been 273 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: gnawing at this motherfucking life all along. I can't talk 274 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: to everybody. I'm gonna leave it in the interviews. It's 275 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: in there. How I done, it is in there. I 276 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: ain't like these niggas. How I done, it is in there. 277 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: Go get it, young nigga. Mindset is in there, you 278 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: understand me. And so these niggas have tucked the ball 279 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: and gone home with they ball. See, I learned this 280 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: when I got in the game. The first thing they 281 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: teach you soon you cross over in the dustry is 282 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: how to play dodgeball with your people. You ever shoot 283 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: one of these bitch ass niggas a DM and I 284 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: all sadden, Oh, he don't even check dms no more, 285 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: don't it. What he's wont for you to do is 286 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: is play into it is say ay you a bitch 287 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: ass nigga. My nigga, Oh damn, what happened? Bride didn't 288 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: even see it? Now here we is. Now we in 289 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: this weird place. You have grown men playing mind games 290 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: because the industry has taught these niggas. Some of these 291 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: niggas been in the industry since they were fifteen seventeen. 292 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: These little Boys is fucked up, man. These little boys 293 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: like little girls. They done taught these niggas how to 294 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: play dodgeball. I was asking myself what to make a 295 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: nigga operate with such low integrity. It's because they've been 296 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: in the industry too long. In the industry, you wor 297 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: it ain't your word. The sales ain't even to say else. 298 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: The company ain't worth what it's worth seeing business. They 299 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: have what's called evaluation. They put a ten multiple on 300 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: it without even seeing the money. All this shit is 301 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: just in the air. We didn't come from that. But 302 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: once you spend enough time across the border, you start 303 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: to pick up on the accent. And so sometimes you'll 304 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: deal with these niggas with subpart celebrity status, not saying 305 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: to myself, you know, always looking at the camera, run 306 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: and j Cole's situation and came run filed the lawsuit, 307 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: and I was saying to myself, you know what, maybe 308 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: you know that, maybe that's the wrong thing to do, right, 309 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: And then I got to thinking, look how these rap 310 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: guys played my guy, the ones I really fuck with them. 311 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: I fuck with them. They know who they But a 312 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of these rap niggas in this industry, they weird 313 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: niggas home. It's almost like that intentionally try to anger 314 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: you and then call you emotional. It's almost like some 315 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: low level game they running. And so if I would 316 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: have took that to an even higher level, I would 317 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: have said, Yo, you know, maybe they understand what I 318 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: unders which is what that anger poisons you. Nigga. You 319 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: can't get angry. Don't get angry at the bitch ass niggas. 320 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Identify these niggas, Diagnose these niggas. You understand me, and 321 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: get away from these niggas. But do not get angry 322 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: at these niggas, because angry poisons you, nigga, and we 323 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: on the journey. I'm gonna get rich no matter who 324 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: answer they phone. If niggas don't call me, don't answer 325 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: their phone, don't pick up a text, if niggas don't 326 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: answer DM, I'm gonna get rich no matter what. It's 327 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: a call into the universe from happy meal to half 328 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: a meal. The first thing that'll happen when you encounter 329 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: a man with low character who has made a way 330 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: for himself in a game and been blessed by God 331 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: to participate in the industry that has now made him wealthy. 332 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: The first thing you'll hear him say, and if he 333 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: says this, you know he has low character, is he'll 334 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: try to convince you to don't help nobody else, save 335 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: yourself and get the fuck as far as you can. 336 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: And as much as I feel him, the message is 337 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: much more complicated. I think there's a very low chance 338 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: that this gentleman have any type of understanding about how 339 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: loaded that that phrase is. So I won't give him 340 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt that he's putting down some 341 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: high level game. I think they'll be speaking to his heart, 342 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: and so they effectively try to teach you how to 343 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: play dodgeball with your people, get you some money, get on, 344 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: get away from your people. Be safe. I'm gonna tell 345 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: you to be safe. I'm gonna tell you to be careful, 346 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: but I want your heart clean. I left the ghetto unscale. 347 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't hate the ghetto like these gentlemen. A lot 348 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: of these boys was kicked around in the ghetto. A 349 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: lot of these boys been jacked and beat up and 350 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: robbed and shot. And you understand me, there's a process. 351 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: Respect the process, but don't follow these building old niggas. 352 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this jay Z interview for people who 353 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: don't know. Jay Z popped out, It's having two shows 354 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: in Yankee Stadium, It's doing a bunch of press. This 355 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: is the twenty fifth year for reasonable doubt. I'm sorry, 356 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: this is the thirtieth year. I believe for reasonable down 357 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: in twenty fifth year for blueprint or vice versus. I'm sorry, 358 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: y'all can in fact check me on that jay Z's 359 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: coming out and speaking to the people. I think it's 360 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: valuable when people like him come out and today I 361 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: want to have a conversation about some of the things 362 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: surrounding it before we even get into the interview. I 363 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: think jay Z said some things that for me was interesting. 364 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: He came out and he said, you know what, played 365 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: a lot of defense last year twenty twenty six is 366 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: our offense. And I've been screaming at the people. If 367 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: you find yourself on defense, you haven't lost, but you're losing. 368 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: I can't see why they got send my bad. Ain't 369 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: tell them folks sending my bag. If you find yourself 370 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: on defense, you have not lost, but you're losing. You 371 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: got to be able to do both. There's a time 372 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to play defense, but you have to 373 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: get back on offense as quick as possible. Like you 374 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: be under attack, you know, online, under attack, online under attack. 375 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, anybody attacking you online. You know, you got 376 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: to really understand what you're dealing with. You got to know. See, 377 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: we come from the ghetto. When you really come from 378 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: the inner city and you done had any kind of money, 379 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, Niggas want to spit in your food. Niggas 380 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: want to spend in your food, homie, because they can't 381 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: stop the plate from coming now. They can't stop a 382 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: nigga from putting something on the plate now, so at 383 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: bench they want to spend in your food. You understand. 384 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: Fuck with how you get money, getting away with how 385 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: you get money. You understand me. Look like you're getting 386 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: more than me. I'm a hater bit on their shit, 387 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: you understand me. That's called spinning in a nigga food. 388 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: You don't never validate no niggas trying to spin in 389 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: your food and let that angle poison you. Picture that nigga. 390 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: Picture me letting anger pois in me? You boys, is 391 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: in hell hating on niggas. Man, Come on, man, picture 392 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: me letting that anger poison me. Boys, Please, you understand me. 393 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: Let's look at a little bit of this Jay Z interview. Man, 394 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: he sat down with GQ. Man, I'm good to hear 395 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: from j I like to hear from my graates. I 396 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: like to hear from the people with the information. We're 397 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna get into some of that. 398 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: Pay attention, cause my pocket is always it's like with 399 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: a foot over the over the thing anyway, it's always 400 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: hanging to the last moment, and it's like huh, because 401 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: sometimes I try to fit a lot of words into 402 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: like a small space then that last word, just like 403 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: just like get in the door, sticking with a written testimony. 404 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: You have a couple of verses on there that I 405 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: really like because they kind of speak to what's going 406 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 3: on with you in a broader sense in the culture. 407 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: Like on Universal Soldier. 408 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: I think it is when you said that you don't 409 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 3: keep the same energy for the DuPonts and the CARNEGIESE. 410 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 3: So I wanted you to talk a little bit about 411 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: this idea of like like you said earlier, like the 412 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: things that you do for the culture, the ways that 413 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: you put on the ways that you try to protect 414 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 3: and move forward, but kind of the pushback that you 415 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: get sometimes about like people throw capitalists at you in 416 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: a derogatory sense. 417 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in that very specifically. The only thing 418 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: I heard coming up was the American dream until we 419 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: started being successful and it was like, wait a minute, 420 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: you're selling out because you're making money. That was the 421 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: first thing that was put on musicians. People had this 422 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: a law for the struggling artists. That's a my game 423 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: what we would call back in the day for technology. 424 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: It was like, no, I'm not going for that, Like, no, no, 425 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: I make art first, and then I made sure that 426 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm compensated for my art. I didn't take advantage. I didn't. 427 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: I didn't get here by taking advantage of people. I 428 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: ain't taking no one, no one. That's not my reputation. 429 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: That's not what I do. I didn't get here by 430 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: taking advantage of people or taking advantage of you know, 431 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: the loopholes in the system, or some wrinkle in like 432 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: a capitalist structure. That structure exists, you know, and I 433 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: just see the world for what it is, not for 434 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: what I want it to be. I'm a realist, not 435 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: an ideal it's not idealistic. People speak about the world 436 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: how they want to see it. You're never gonna win 437 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: like that. 438 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 3: He said something just now though about you pushing independence right, 439 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: kind of like in the spirit of prints when you 440 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: embody that, do you feel like you are kind of 441 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: setting a mold or leading a charge for like what 442 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 3: the successful black man is allowed to do and breaking 443 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: breaking these spaces, breaking these confines. 444 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I even want you to take that out of 445 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: your vocabulary. Take what allowed? You know what I'm saying, 446 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: We're not allowed to do anything. You know, in order 447 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: for someone to allow you, they have to have authority 448 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: over you. No one has authority over us. We exist 449 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: like everyone else here. No one can allow us to 450 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: do anything. But that question comes, that word comes from 451 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: a real space, and I want to eliminate all those 452 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: type of words for us. Yes, So the answer to 453 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: that is yes. 454 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: When you're on a mission to eliminate words like allow, 455 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: like you said, do you feel like that makes you 456 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: a target? 457 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes from like. 458 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: It's been thirty minutes right here, But I'm gonna move home, 459 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Salute JA and salute Phraser right because I'm gonna say 460 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: some things in this part that you know, hopefully Phraser 461 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: don't take away. I think he's great. I think he 462 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: did a tremendous job with this. Of course, I'm gonna 463 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: say some things this episode that you know could be 464 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: framed in a way, but hopefully we have high level 465 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: individuals taking a look at the part in what I'm 466 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: saying and we can digest it for the information that 467 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put out there and not some like 468 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: hit piece or attack on any other creator in the space. 469 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Identify that I have an issue that I'm dealing with 470 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: as it pertains to I feel as though we're running 471 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: out of time with some of the people that had 472 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: some of the great information as it pertains to the 473 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: music industry entertaining business, doing business at a high level 474 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: from a certain vantage point, and so I oftentimes request 475 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: a little more insight from those gentlemen, with all due respect. 476 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: But I can spend thirty minutes right here talking about 477 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: him and Kanye when you hear him say something like that, 478 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: like that wor hold on you that word allowed. We're 479 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna get rid of Yay does that as well? Now? 480 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Am I saying Jay is copy and Yate? Of course not, 481 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: low level idiot, you bumped your head. I'm saying, once 482 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: you raise this vibration to a certain level. It changes 483 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: the way you view things. It's a universal outlook. Sometimes 484 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: it may feel familia, but it speaks to us still 485 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: being on the same waveing. And so when you niggas 486 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: do your little podcast out there, I wish some way 487 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: it can have a water mark on it inspired by 488 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: the minister pay attention. 489 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, one hundred percent. What's 490 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: what's the nipsey day? Pray for me, y'all one, damn 491 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: gonna have to pay for these thoughts. Real niggas is extinct. 492 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: It ain't safe for me, my dog. They are real 493 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: fucking lyrics. 494 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 3: You just come back to that a lot in the 495 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: last few years, Like the more I revealed me, the 496 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: more they will kill me. 497 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: Stuff like that, who when you say they like who 498 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: is that? Whatever? The threat to However, the system is 499 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: set up to keep things at status quo and keep 500 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: us in the position of using words like allaw so 501 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: anyone that that's culpable and creating the system that we 502 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 2: operate under that stay. Yeah, that's day. And it actually 503 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: goes beyond color because I've been counted that a lot, 504 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: but counted that a lot where it was just like, Okay, 505 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: this successful black man make it. Let me go to him, yeah, 506 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 2: and for help and they're like, we don't fuck with 507 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: no rabbit shit. Oh wow, not like out like that, 508 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: but yeah, you know that's the energy, like the energy, 509 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 2: it's like you see the energy. Yeah, you know. 510 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: I was thinking about how you described last year as 511 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: being angry, and for the first time in a while, 512 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: I wondered what it felt like to be pulled back 513 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: into that feeling and how you pulled yourself out or 514 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: how you leaned on the people around you. 515 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been saying to put y'all needed the people 516 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: around me more than ever because usually when I have 517 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: that feeling, I would just make music and it's be therapeutic. 518 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: I want to get to the point where jay Z 519 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: spoke about putting Kendrick Lamar on the main stage. If 520 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: you're in this industry or just a fan of music, 521 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: you've heard that there's a lot of people that's on 522 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: Drake's side as it pertains to media outlets, Twitter pages 523 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: of what have you, communities and redditors that they now 524 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: have a disdain for jay Z, some of that they 525 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: believe him to feel a way about Drake. He gets 526 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: into why he chose to put Kendrick on the main 527 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: stage while Kendrick was dissing Drake, calling him a PDF 528 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, pay attention to this. 529 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: I think that was the right choice as a rapper 530 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: first and foremost, and being one of the pillows. 531 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: Heavy and I don't know how to make music that's 532 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: not reflective of how I'm feeling at the moment. It 533 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: would have been fiery, would but I don't know. I 534 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: don't know. I feel I'm all harmed and good, you 535 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know, because you know, 536 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: I have a lot of like scratch ideas and they're 537 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: like all bad. To be honest with it, bad, it's 538 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: just like all bad. 539 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: The streets really wanted you on that Cliff album. 540 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was close. I was close. 541 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: There's another spot where I think that was kind of 542 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: a missed opportunity. And again, Fraser did a great job. 543 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: Bad this can mean a lot. I didn't take this 544 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: to mean bad as it pertains to the lyrics didn't 545 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: come together in the way that I wanted them to. 546 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: I took it bad. Like the things I'm gonna say 547 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: about the people, the things I may uncover, the things 548 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: I may address, and the way I may address them 549 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: may cost me more than it's worth. The juice ain't 550 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: worth to squeak. And so there's again that this is 551 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And again, if you listen to the 552 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: earlier part of this podcast, what you're dealing with is 553 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 1: I am from the golden age of content creation, and 554 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: so I come in the game high level potent. I 555 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: understand the levels that these interviews, in these talks with 556 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: some of the most powerful people in our culture, can 557 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: take our culture as it pertains suggest these conversations, I've 558 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: built seven figure businesses off of these interviews. You're looking 559 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: at the product of black men coming out speaking about 560 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: business and not just having their contracts, just leaving kibbles 561 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: and bits out there. The ones of us that seeking 562 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: will find it. We'll put it together. I'll get a 563 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: book from Jay and a book from Ya, and Ross 564 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: may say an accountant, and Shannon may slip up and say, 565 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: who handle is digital? You understand, I may start building 566 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: a company based off niggas is just feeling good? And 567 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Kanye dropped five names in his breakfast club men, wh 568 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: why these people owed the company? And what is that? 569 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: What's as wow? Wow? 570 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: Right? 571 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: So we learn things from these I look at these 572 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: interviews completely different, and so part of it is that, 573 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: And then part of the selfish side of me, right 574 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: is like when we hear from our people, even though 575 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: we got to share some of these gentlemen, but when 576 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: we hear from them, he speak to us, speak to 577 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: the hustlers, speak to the hustlers. Like a lot of 578 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: y'all be getting that confused too, just because some of 579 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 1: my hustler alumni is rappers and CEOs, just because some 580 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: of my hustler alumni made a rap that the point 581 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: rappers try to take them like, now this is a rapper. No, 582 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: they hustlers. Speak to the hustlers. When you come out, 583 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: speak to the hustlers. Nigga, he's gonna carry us another 584 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: five years. Boy, we're trying to figure it out what's gone. 585 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: And when everybody is quiet, that's how you have the charlatans. 586 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: Because what happens is when you make the prototype of 587 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: the man with all the money, all the information, and 588 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: all the resources, he never say nothing. He never helped nobody, 589 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: and he never he's never outward with any information. Now, 590 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: these niggas can masquerade like they've done as much as 591 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: you like they have as much information as you because 592 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: if we both quiet, you don't know who know what 593 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: when you gotta come out and start talking about the business, right. 594 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: It's just that level of exposure helps us develop. Otherwise 595 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: we're developing in the dog and that's a skill set 596 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of us have it. And I'm not 597 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: saying leave everything. I'm not saying the things that need 598 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: to be patting it for your family, things that may 599 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: be exclusive to your lineage. I'm saying just some of 600 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: the information the mindset to grind the grit to understanding 601 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: what is the language? What are they saying? Like I 602 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: was telling niggas that these podcast deals, now, if you 603 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: got a large audience, there's a trick down in these 604 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: podcast deals. Sometimes you hear Joe Budden speak about what's 605 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: called a quote unquote hosting fee. It came out of nowhere. 606 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: And so again you have to understand we need to 607 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: hear from some of these gentlemen. But at this particular point, 608 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: I would a drill den on the back. What do 609 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: you mean bad? What do you mean by that? But 610 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: salute the phrase again, no disrespect. You did a tremendous job. 611 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: I really say that sincerely, and I don't usually say that, 612 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not overcompensating. I'm saying that from a general standpoint. Again, 613 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm selfish. Speak to the hustlers because Nigga, the hustlers 614 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: is all you had at first. I know we shame you. 615 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: Make them pay, but speak to us, nigga. 616 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: I think that the first thing that I say it 617 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: has to be saved from me can be like I 618 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: don't want to be so rigid with it though, I'm 619 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: gonna keep that open. I'm gonna take that back. But 620 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: at that moment, at that moment, I was like, yeah, 621 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: I want to do something, but in order for me 622 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: to move forward, I gotta get this shit out. I 623 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: gotta get it out. 624 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 3: I'm talking about putting on for the culture. What does 625 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: it mean to you to be at the helm of 626 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: the cultural events so important as. 627 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: It's the Super Bowl? I think everyone should should experience 628 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: music in totality, And for a lot of years there 629 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: was only one side of music that was being represented. Yeah, 630 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: and we got the opportunity to to to create a 631 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: more balanced idea of what popular music is today. I'm 632 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 2: not going out on a limb. The most famous people 633 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: know what statistically supported. It's like, I'm not like I 634 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: didn't pick like the indie artists that I really like 635 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 2: from Portland the number one stream artists in the world. 636 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: It's crazy that I think last year was still like 637 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 3: the first solo rap ack, which is crazy to say 638 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: that last. 639 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 2: Year was that was it a hard one to get 640 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 2: across the board, not without conversations that was like dated. Yeah, 641 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you said the Status Show, 642 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: Kendrick broke the audience record. It's not a rocket science. 643 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: It's like, this is the music of our time and 644 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: it should be represented on the biggest stage because these 645 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: are some of them. I'm not saying they're the only 646 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: artists right. Obviously other artists are be offended, but I 647 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 2: think that was the right choice. 648 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 3: As a rapper first and foremost, and being one of 649 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: the pillars of very rare. I would have to imagine 650 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: that you had a special kick out of watching that 651 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: show though, in particular, Yeah, for sure. 652 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought it was brave. I thought that 653 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: he did was brave and it speaks to who he 654 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: is as a as a performer. He could have made 655 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: it a little easy on thisself, just esthetically and with no, no, No. 656 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: Esthetically was beautiful was for Awless, the artistic choice to 657 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: play the new album the new album was a choice 658 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: and brave in front of that big of an audience, 659 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: because even if ten million people know some of these songs, 660 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: it's one hundred and twenty million people. That's like, what 661 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: is he doing? And as an artist to stand up 662 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: there and do it and complete your vision was like 663 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: I had to. I had to tip my hat to 664 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 2: like I have a high respect for him already, but 665 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: like even more my respect was like he really, he's 666 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: really about what he say he's about. 667 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 668 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to ask you this only as a participant, 669 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: and you don't have to, you know, I have to 670 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 3: get a disclaimer for her. I'm just saying, as someone 671 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: who was part of probably the genre's biggest rabbief go 672 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: until now, as a spectator, what did you think of 673 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four back and forth between him and Drake? 674 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a nancer. You're not gonna like Okay, Well, 675 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're gonna like us. That's presumptuous. 676 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: I think that Look, there was four pillars of hip hop. 677 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: There are four pillars of hip hop right break dancing, 678 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 2: and it's graffiti, live DJing and battling. Yep, break dancers, 679 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: not at the forefront end rap anymore. It was actually 680 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: an Olympics sport. That's dead. Graffiti beautiful you know in 681 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: certain places, even in like you know, major art and 682 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 2: like Keith hern and Bosquiot. Actually the street artist took 683 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 2: it to the next level. It's not part of hip 684 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: hop DJing. The DJ was in the forefront. It was 685 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 2: Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Eric B and Rock Kim. 686 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: You don't even know the DJ for a calf of 687 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: the artists anymore. Who's Drake DJ? I have no idea, Okay, 688 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you that no longer exists and the 689 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 2: last pillar is battling. We love the excitement and I 690 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: love the the sparring and the music you get. But 691 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: in this day and age, it's so much negative stuff 692 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: that comes with it. They almost wish it didn't happen. Really, yeah, 693 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: because it's almost like it's a final thing. Now. People 694 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: that like Kendrick hate trade no matter what he makes, 695 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: no matter what he says, and it goes far too 696 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: it's like attack on his character and his thing. And 697 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: and it's like, I don't know if I love that. 698 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's helpful to our growth with 699 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 2: the fallout lands, especially on like you know, on social media, 700 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: which takes place every day, and now you have these 701 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: pods of cult the standing Armies. Yeah, and it's like 702 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 2: it's too far. It's like bringing people kids in it. 703 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: And it's like I don't like that, you know, And 704 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 2: maybe I've grown in a space that is probably you know, 705 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: I sound like the old God Wagon and things, but 706 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: I think we can achieve the same thing as far 707 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 2: as like sparring with music, with collaborations more so than 708 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 2: breaking the whole thing apart. It could stand it before 709 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: because there was no social media and it was no thing, 710 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: and you know, you had to it was fun and 711 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: then you moved on. Right now, I don't know if 712 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 2: it could stand it with the technology that we have, 713 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 2: because it takes up so much occident, it takes up 714 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: so much oxygen. And now it's just like every day 715 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: they're just trying to still talking about it. It's not 716 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: just talking about it, not like yo, this song, I 717 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: like this. It was like trying to tear down the 718 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: people life. It's like trying to, you know, let this 719 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: guy's marriage or this guy's relationship with his child, and 720 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know, man, I don't know if 721 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's worship at this at this point, 722 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's interesting. Again, I love the idea 723 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: that we got so much music and such just a 724 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 2: short period of time, great music, just everything around. It 725 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: was just like, man, it's like taking us a couple 726 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 2: of steps back and we've just grown so much that 727 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if I guess I'm wouna say it. 728 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: I don't know if battling needs to be part of 729 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: the culture anymore interesting. I hate that I have this 730 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: point of view. I do because I know what it 731 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: sounds like, I know what it feels like. I hate it. 732 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 2: It's just how I. 733 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 3: Feel, even kind of extended to you, right because people 734 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: made it a personal thing that you chose Kendrick for 735 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. It's like, oh, man, he's choosing the 736 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 3: side and he's putting and he's not like. 737 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 2: I don't what do I have to do with that. 738 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: I chose the guy that was having a monster year. 739 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 2: I think it was the right choice, or it wasn't. 740 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: In some sort of alliance to a battle. What I 741 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: care about them? To guys battling like like got to 742 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 2: do with me? Or have ad it? Have fun? It's 743 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: almost like not on just me, by the way they 744 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 2: drag everybody in it, like everyone's part of this conspiracy 745 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: to undermine Drake. I guess, but like what the fuck? 746 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 2: Like what I fucking jay z or due respect to him, 747 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 2: fucking ole dude respectfully or like for what to what end? 748 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: It couldn't be Like these guys just don't like each other, 749 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: and I think they haven't liked each other for a 750 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: long time before you had anything to do with it. Wow, 751 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: I think this has been brewing, just like me and 752 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: NAS was brewing. It didn't happen at the summer Jam. 753 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 2: That happened that Lex and TV sets the minimum, whatever 754 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: it was, it was a whole bunch of stuff leading 755 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 2: up to that point. Slugs in your hat or was 756 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: selecting your hand. It was a bunch of like little 757 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: things that led up to that point, and then when 758 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: it happened, happened. I actually regret that because I really 759 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: like not it's a really nice guy. But also to your. 760 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 3: Point, like I remember I was like ten or eleven. 761 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 3: When that happened, I was, well, I was on your 762 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 3: side clearly, but my position was I can't go. 763 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: So a lot to unpack there, just to do some 764 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: content setting. Jay Z basically just say yo yo, I 765 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: think battling. This is already a very important distinction because 766 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: he didn't say battle rapping quote unquote, but of course 767 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: it could be took that way again. This is why 768 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: when Jay comes out, you have to be extremely clear, 769 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: you have to be extremely informative, you have to be like, 770 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: it's so much riding on it. I guess that's what 771 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying as well, like we got to hear from 772 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: these guys more. And I know it costs a lot. 773 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: I know, coming out and speaking it's like, damn, what 774 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: kind of request is that? But it's like this, for 775 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: the race. Trust what I'm saying. I'm off the highest level. 776 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: I come through the ghetto, no scratches, no blemishes, no 777 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: mustard on my jacket, off the highest level. I'm ordained. 778 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: I've been placed here, right. So I'm saying this you 779 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: you people have to hear what I'm saying, put it 780 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: in the interviews, and trust me. Hundreds of years trust me. 781 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: So we got to hear from these guys more. I understand. 782 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: I understand the trade off. I understand it because then 783 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: its climate and the way that culture works and how 784 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 1: and how culture matures. The behaviors of yesterday can become 785 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: penalized in the future. That's also why is rewarding the 786 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: state quiet, because what I exposed about my process now 787 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: maybe can come and hurt me in the future. I 788 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: get all of that. I think the race overrides that. Now, 789 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: let's address the fact that Jay said battling is detrimental 790 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: to the coach at this point. Number one, I think 791 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: if we're gonna act like jay Z is a part 792 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: of the conspiracy with Drake, you're gonna have to show 793 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: me some signs again of the human behavior. I'm an expert. 794 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: I'm an expert, And so when you hear someone even 795 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 1: some of this is Drake. Some of this is Drake pity. 796 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: And I hate to put it like that, but some 797 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: of him talking this battle shit shouldn't be it's Drake pity. 798 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: I hate to put it like that because I fuck 799 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: with Drake, but some of that is that. And so 800 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: for y'all to tell me he got a black heart 801 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: for Drake, I don't think he has those kind of 802 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: sentiments because battle rap ain't really hurting now, nigga, but Drake, 803 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: and so this is a window into his soul, you 804 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: understand me. Two, I disagree with putting a dish record 805 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: calling Drake a PDF on the main stage as it 806 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: pertains to the super Bowl. Up until this point, I 807 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: still believe it's unfounded claims. That's number one and number two, 808 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: if you call yourself as jay Z, then remember Phils, 809 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: I never really heard you use that. That's another thing again, 810 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: I can spend an high on this. This is the 811 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: highest level. I ain't really never heard Jake pull that 812 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: card out. He ain't never really had to pull that. 813 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm jay Z called out. Got to pull that motherfucker 814 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 1: out on the Drake toppy. He never had to pull 815 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: that motherfucker out. Drake better take heed to that. Yeah, Now, 816 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: look at what a nigga using when they dealing with 817 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: your name. Now, the words, the body language. Look at 818 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: how you understand. But he's an expert, and so also, 819 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't want it to be confused at me saying 820 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: that I don't think Not like Us should be played 821 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 1: or some of those records should be played I don't 822 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: need that to be confused with me saying that Kendrick 823 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: Lamar is not deserving for the opportunity. Those are two 824 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: different conversations. The conversation I'm having is jay Z him 825 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: being jay Z, which again I've never heard him pull 826 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: that card out. He pulled it out as it pertains 827 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 1: to Drake. But you being jay Z, if you call 828 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: yourself want to empower, break dance and battling out, you 829 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: can go in power smack you arel. I ain't saw 830 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: jay Z do nothing for smack them. I ain't saw 831 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: none of you niggas a fuck with battle rap in 832 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: no kind of way. And there's a way to enhance 833 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: battle rap, as jay Z matter of fact, just you 834 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: saying that may do something for a company, even though 835 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: that jay Z is worried about battling disappearing or it 836 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: may hurt it. I'm not sure it may have some 837 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: sort of reaction. Again, when these kind of individuals talk, 838 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: when the pillars of our culture speak, it moves the needle. 839 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: And so what I'm saying is is that the battle 840 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: rap aspect of it, you could address that in a 841 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 1: different way. If you believe that battling is becoming extinct 842 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: and maybe it is a lost art or it is 843 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: something that mainstream doesn't know about. You as jay Z 844 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: have different avenues to amplify that. And I'm not sure 845 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: that you sacrifice one of ours. You don't sacrifice one 846 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: of your own to push battling up a little bit, 847 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: sacrifice one of our biggest artists, right, And that's what 848 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying as a big homie calling. And this is 849 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: why people start to think, well, maybe it's vindictive, like 850 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: tell me okay, so now down to okay. Yeah, he's 851 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: the biggest streaming artist. Great, so he gets the opportunity. 852 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: I think the conversation is why is he speaking about 853 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: pdf fiul about another rap artist. We all come from 854 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 1: the rap community, y'all split it down with the street shit. 855 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: Y'all know miss me with the street taught you niggas 856 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: ain't hit nobody, done nothing yet. I'm waiting. I'm still wondering. 857 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: We gonna get into this aight and ros state and 858 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: the money come up missing. You niggas ain't moving y'all, 859 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: miss me because I'm sick of I get it though. 860 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: You niggas on probation, parole and all kinds of shit, 861 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: it's scared right there. Somebody got the go though at 862 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: some point because the squabs is pushing the line back 863 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: to this though, I disagree with the idea of you 864 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: putting it on the main stage so all people can 865 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: see it again, especially in particular that facet of it 866 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: as it pertains to unfounded claims calling somebody a PDF file. 867 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: I just think that that's a reach if you're asking 868 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: me respectfully, because again, never did nothing for smack ur l. 869 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: You're never empowered better rep at all, And so I 870 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: think the larger conversation is YO again again, My standpoint 871 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: is you don't do that. My standpoint is, okay, even 872 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: if Kendrick does get the Super Bowl in that moment, 873 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he can subtly do certain little things. And 874 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: maybe they call that subtle, I don't know, but for me, 875 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: it's like, yo, let's not do that. Let's not sacrifice 876 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: one of our own. I guess the bigger conversation is 877 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: maybe jay Z doesn't view Drake as one of our own. 878 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: Maybe when jay Z looks at Coach he says, yeah, 879 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: that's not one ours, because I doubt he would have 880 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: let him do that to anybody else. Now that's a conversation. 881 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: Right if that was another artist and not Drake, do 882 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: you let him do that? Unfounded claims one of our 883 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: biggest artists gonna hurt our market share when the super Bowl? 884 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that a hurt rep as a whole? The super Bowl? 885 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: Is there the opportunity to perform on the super Bowl 886 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: for hip hop act is supposed to elevate the market, 887 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: supposed to take rap mainstream, not sacrifice one of ours. 888 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. For me, I think that's 889 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: a conversation to be had. Jay also talking about the 890 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: presence of other faces of the business diminishing, and you know, 891 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I just think that he's too influential. 892 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: He's the person you already got it. Whatever you want 893 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: to see popping, you can get popping. And that's four 894 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: or five people down the line in your crew. You 895 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: can just say, hey, make sure y'all do something for 896 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: battle Rap, like make sure battle Rap or Battling doesn't disappear, Like, hey, yo, 897 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: make sure those podcast guys, those three or four do like, 898 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: make sure somebody make sure that they Nobody in these 899 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 1: games is looking out for nobody. I'm telling y'all like 900 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: it it's spooky out here. If you're a young nigga 901 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: trying to get in, it's spooky out here. Head up, 902 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: chest out, let's look at a little more of it. 903 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 2: However, the system is set up to keep things at 904 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: status quo last few years, like the more I reveal me, 905 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 2: the more they will kill me. Stuff like that. When 906 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 2: you say, they like who is that? Whatever? The threat to. However, 907 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 2: the system is set up to keep things at status 908 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 2: quo and keep us in a position of using words 909 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 2: like a lot. So anyone that's culpable in creating the 910 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 2: system that we operate under that stay. Yeah, that's day. 911 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 2: And it actually goes beyond color because I've been counted 912 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 2: that a lot, but counted that a lot where it 913 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 2: was just like, okay, this is tessful black man. They 914 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 2: get let me go to him and for help, and 915 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 2: they're like you don't fuck with no rabbit shits. Oh wow, 916 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,399 Speaker 2: not like out like that. But yeah, you know it's 917 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 2: the energy, like the energy. It's like you you see 918 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 2: the energy. 919 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also important. And again that's what I'm saying. 920 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: These people don't say anything. It's all energy. It's like 921 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: it's it's I'm telling y'all is weird. It's all energy. 922 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: They don't say nothing, and that's how a lot of 923 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: these niggas end up in these sexual assault cases because 924 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: ain't nobody in this game talking. They just is doing 925 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: some weird energy shit. Oh the energy is right, All 926 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: the energy is not right. Move while you're messing up 927 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: the energy. That way, they can always ruin it without 928 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: an explanation. Energy is the explanation. But yeah, now you 929 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: see how he picking it up. So one of the 930 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: things they teach you how to do in this game 931 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: is pick up on shit. As soon as you get in, 932 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: they teach you how to play dodgeball with your people 933 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: and teach you how to pick up on Oh, they 934 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: ain't really fucking with it, but you do not let 935 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 1: anger poise in you. They'll try to shift, blame whatever. 936 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: Don't let the angle poise in you. But I just 937 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: thought that was important. Pay attention. I'm gonna stop stopping it. 938 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: I know y'all want to see it in full, so 939 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna now watch another part of the jay Z 940 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: interview with GQ and Fraser, which did an amazing job. 941 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: Pay attention. 942 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 3: I was thinking about how you described last year as 943 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 3: being angry and for the first time in a while. Yeah, 944 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 3: I wondered what it felt like to be pulled back 945 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 3: into that feeling and how you pulled yourself out or 946 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 3: how you leaned on the people around you. 947 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been saying to put y'all needed to people 948 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: around me more than ever, because usually when I have 949 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: that feeling, I would just make music and therapeutic. I'll 950 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: be able to I'll blow it out, yeah, and that 951 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 2: would be like, you know, I'll move on. I had 952 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 2: to sit in that for a long time, and luckily 953 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 2: I had that and right again, I've built this, uh, 954 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 2: this circle that's really safe for me of people that 955 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 2: really love me, not using me, and like you know, 956 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 2: really care for my best interests. So I was able 957 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 2: to have that in the time, you know, the most 958 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 2: crucial time for me, especially people that were close to me. 959 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 2: And I'll explain so, like you know, when those type 960 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 2: of things happen, people run, they don't care what happened, 961 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 2: they don't care. It's like save yourself, you know. So 962 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 2: I have partners, you know, I've got big deals with 963 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 2: I called my guy from LVM, hey man, this is 964 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 2: coming and I can't get rid of it. I can't 965 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 2: take a settlement. It ain't in my DNA. First the 966 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 2: first of all. For first I can tell my wife 967 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: that's just back up like it ain't even in me. 968 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 2: I can't. I couldn't do. I know what this is 969 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 2: gonna be, the way that this is going to bring 970 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 2: on our family, I can't do it. The makeup my 971 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: my I would I would die. It would have been cheaper, 972 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 2: of yes, cheaper, quicker, move on with your life. It 973 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 2: was like a testament because people know me like I 974 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 2: know who you are, and that's impossible, and not only 975 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: not only are we standing by you, but what do 976 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 2: you need? Yeah? 977 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: What did you kind of I think that's powerful that 978 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: he has that stance. Number one. Let me, I definitely 979 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: want to come in and appreciate the fact that Jay 980 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 1: has that type of warrior spirit, in particular coming from 981 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: the inner city. I keep telling y'all, see, I take 982 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: jay Z as part of the hustler community. Y'all take 983 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: him as part of the rapper community. Of course, we 984 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: run the hustler community. I don't know what, like were 985 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: talking to hustlers all Let old like in some of 986 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 1: my guys rappers, we fuck with them bars too, We 987 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: don't fuck with our rappers though, But the hustler community. Man, 988 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: come on, man, I take jay Z as part of 989 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 1: the hustler community. The high levels. You know what I'm saying. 990 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: The higher ups. You understand me. It's up there podcasting, 991 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: the higher ups, you understand me. I feel as though 992 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: he wanted us as far as like the guys that 993 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: come through the inner city figured it out, navigate it. 994 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: I beat this, I beat that game. Universe open up, 995 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: how go that way? How bless this person? How get blessed? 996 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: How bless this person? Get blessed? Blessed these Yeah, bless 997 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: this situation. Get this. You understand what I'm saying. I 998 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: feel as though we navigate at a high level. But 999 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: I do want to come in and appreciate the fact 1000 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: that you know, like you said, you know what I'm saying, 1001 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 1: it wasn't in his DNA to take a settlement. I 1002 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: think that speaks to his character, his integrity, how far 1003 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: he's willing to go. And I also think that it's 1004 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: virtue signaling. I also think that it's putting people on 1005 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,359 Speaker 1: notice that, Yo, the way you took Diddy down gonna 1006 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 1: be a little different than taking me down. There's also 1007 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: another conversation to be had here as it pertains to 1008 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: jay Z going through that cause it's like, Yo, you 1009 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: gotta now have this conversation with Beyonce, who ain't done nothing, 1010 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: your family and your kids, who ain't done nothing. You 1011 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: ain't really done nothing. But I take the hit. I'm 1012 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: a man. But they built something too. Surely been building 1013 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: something for twenty years too. I'm talking about squeaky clean shit. 1014 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Short is the biggest on this side. 1015 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm the biggest on that side. But she's hulled without me. 1016 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: But us together is another be right. But I never 1017 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: thought that they'll come along and try to spit in 1018 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: my food. You gotta always remember, my nigga, no matter 1019 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: how far you go. That's why I'm trying to tell you, 1020 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: gotta build this shit up. No matter how far you go, 1021 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: they'll try to figure a way to get it done. 1022 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: They can't stop the plate. You can't stop me from 1023 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: putting something on my table. The next best thing they 1024 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: can do is pause in the plate. I've dealt with 1025 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: it all my life. I'm gonna get me some money 1026 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: without you niggas, you ain't gonna be able to pause 1027 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: in my plate, And if I catch you trying to 1028 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: pouse in my plate, I'm gonna deal with you like 1029 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: you you understand me. But coming out the rap community 1030 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: in the nineties, it was a group of us. We 1031 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: made it, we navigated through, but now we on everybody 1032 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: target list. Now, baby, had you not been with me, 1033 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: you will never be going through this. But now it's 1034 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of us. If you made it through the 1035 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: nineties and you got to this level, you got a 1036 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 1: target on your back. You better be squeaky clean, or 1037 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: you better uncoveraged. You better than figure something out because 1038 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: it's going down. I just so happened to be married 1039 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 1: with a Beyonce an icon, and now I gotta tell 1040 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: her it's some long nights because they saw what happened 1041 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: to did it? Beyonce know that things have been uncovered 1042 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: that she may not know about Jay, And of course 1043 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm not alluding to it being anything like that. But 1044 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: there's things that happened in the nineties. There's things the 1045 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: rap game and rap videos and and all this shit 1046 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: used to call for that was unacceptable, but people would 1047 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 1: do anything not to disrupt the money. Black people had 1048 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: never seen money like this without a ball in their 1049 00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: hand without putting the number on their back, that black 1050 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: people had never seen money like this. Whatever, need to 1051 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: have it. Don't disrupt the money. Sometimes they're playing to 1052 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: a nigga horny. Sometimes they're appeased. A nigga that's sitting 1053 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: here and he want to be freaked all goddamn day. Whatever, 1054 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: don't disrupt the money. He won't coke, Get him coke. 1055 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: He want women, get him women. Whatever. Don't disrupt the money. 1056 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: And we ain't never saw money coming in like this. 1057 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 1: Don't make it acceptable. I'm telling you the environment and 1058 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: atmosphere in the nineties and now they holding people accountable 1059 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 1: to Now. Jay Z made it through, made a lot 1060 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 1: of money. He got to have that conversation with Beyonce. 1061 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: I know that's a heavy conversation. I know that's a 1062 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: heavy conversation. The only thing I will say, and of 1063 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: course I'm gonna have the conversation, because of course I 1064 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: have these conversations. Hopefully at the level that people are 1065 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: understanding that it's information based and trying to pour something 1066 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 1: into the culture. The only thing I will say is 1067 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: the way that jay Z ideaify how important it was 1068 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 1: for people not to give up on him. And while 1069 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: I do understand why he distance itself from Diddy, I 1070 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: do understand and see why some people have that conversation 1071 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 1: under their breath, like whatever happened to Jay and Diddy? 1072 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: And these are two different gentlemen. I want to be 1073 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: clean put that on the record, But for the sake 1074 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 1: of the conversation, I do won't examine if me, if 1075 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm Diddy, because that's what makes my podcast the greatest 1076 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: podcast on earth, is that I don't speak like these 1077 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: I speak from the vantage point of inno scenario and 1078 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: getting out of it some kind of way or dealing 1079 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: with it head up, chess stot, That's how I view it. 1080 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: And so if I'm Diddy and I look at j 1081 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: and as I'm going through that, he's a powerful man 1082 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: and he comes out in public a distance itself from me, 1083 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: how do I feel now? On one side, I say, Yo, 1084 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: he should have done that, he should have distanced itself. 1085 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: It's hot right now, he's even in the street. You 1086 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 1: get a little warm, and you come to a nigga 1087 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: trap house. You the police. You ain't brought the police, 1088 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: but you the police. You know, you warm while you 1089 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: over here, you get arrested. Don't come around til you 1090 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: figure out cool off. A lot of you boys get arrested. 1091 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: Pop right back up. And so these is this is 1092 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: questionable behavior. And so if I'm Diddy and I'm looking 1093 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: at Jay and I say, damn, he dis is itself. Nah, nigga, 1094 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 1: he posed to That's on one end. On the other end, 1095 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: coming from New York, you gotta remember Tupac was in 1096 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: a scenario where he was, like I mean, he was 1097 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: a force to be reckoned with the business. Was in 1098 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: a very interesting scenario when Park was alive because all 1099 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: of the big dogs up north they felt this, They 1100 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 1: felt him like he was really he was shooting at 1101 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: all of them. Far as like he were punching at him. 1102 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: He was hitting at him. That's why me and jay 1103 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: Z need to have it. I'm talking. I want to 1104 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: talk about Park. Let's get into some of that Park shit, 1105 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: not even the no fucking up his legacy, But I 1106 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: really want to know like the vibes, you know what 1107 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like how you felt cause he was trying 1108 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 1: to cut you down on your way in. I know, 1109 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: you leaving the streets trying to figure it out. You 1110 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 1: got POC cutting at you, you understand, but you deal 1111 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 1: with the early nineties and you and if I'm didding 1112 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Jay and I'm saying, you know 1113 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: what one of the things did he found out? And 1114 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: I think Quincy, of one of those gentlemen, was so 1115 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: kind and lett him be a mentee. And he figured 1116 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: out to remake records and take records that I already 1117 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: had fan bases and speed them up. And because see 1118 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: they could not deal with parc rap for rap a 1119 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: nigga better come with some Ronald Eisley type shit or 1120 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: something like that. Fucking with Park back then, he was 1121 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: smashing shit. If you don't come with those records with 1122 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: these fingerprint on him, like if Biggie didn't have did he, 1123 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: then I think we look at it a different situation. 1124 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: And I say that respectfully bigger in his legacy because 1125 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: he was a phenomenal artist. But when we talk about 1126 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: the ability to compete with Tupac Shi Cool with just raps, 1127 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: it would have been a problem. You needed to go 1128 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: and get some older records. And again did he had 1129 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: learned this from the Mary Jays and doing some of 1130 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,439 Speaker 1: those R and B shit, So he brought that over 1131 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 1: to bigger, and that helped make him palatable to compete 1132 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: with Pok because if he would have stayed rugged, he 1133 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: didn't have a chance. The thug life thing was like, 1134 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: come on, Biggie didn't have nothing like thug life at all. 1135 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: He couldn't even articulate hisself in a way like some 1136 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 1: of us who yeah, respectfully though, because Biggie again legendary status. 1137 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: I got a lot of love and respect for what 1138 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: he'd done in the game. But did he had figured 1139 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,439 Speaker 1: something out? Then he figured out how to make hip 1140 01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: hop more palatable. And if I'm Diddy going through what 1141 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,439 Speaker 1: I'm going through, and I heard jay Z dis is itself, listen, 1142 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: I understand it because I've heard Diddy distance hisself from niggas. 1143 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: And again, this is what I mean about carma. This 1144 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: game ain't bigger than the handbook. I keep telling y'all. 1145 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: You could be successful in this game, but you're not 1146 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: bigger than the handbook. If you got sour any wing 1147 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 1: in your heart, be careful God to come at any moment, 1148 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: figure it out, fix it, and be careful who you 1149 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: do wrong. This is a word to the wise, and 1150 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: you know what thing about a word to the wise, 1151 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: A word to the wise. For a smart man is 1152 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: a blessing before a fool, it's an insult. And so 1153 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Diddy figuring out all of this with music. Jay Z 1154 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. He does not have it 1155 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 1: figured out, but he's a great rapper. Again, it's about packaging. 1156 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I keep telling y'all, even when I speak to my team, 1157 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: it's like, yo, watch you, I'm watch you speaking. I 1158 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: understand that everything is packaging because I see moves being 1159 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: made in the market that should not be made because 1160 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: it's packaging. And they'll say it's gatekeepers. No, it's packaging 1161 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: because if it's packaged right, and make it past the gate. 1162 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: If it's packaged right and make it past the gate, 1163 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: you think they checked the Bentley package. You think they 1164 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 1: checked the rolls was package. If it's packaged right to 1165 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: make it past the gate. But here's the thing. Jay 1166 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Z was trying to figure out how to get this 1167 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: thing more palatable. He gets under ditty and he figures 1168 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: it out. And I could be assuming, but I'm not. 1169 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: How do I know? Because jay Z goes from gangster rap, 1170 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: street rap, New York b boy type dude until he 1171 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: pops up in a shiny suit. Now, if I'm Diddy, 1172 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's my game. But jay Z smart enough 1173 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: to figure out, oh did it? Don't figure something out 1174 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: over there. That's how you do it. Ah. That's one 1175 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: thing about them niggas back then, they would take it 1176 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: from everybody. And that's you know what I'm saying. Part 1177 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: of the game is that jay Z pop out in 1178 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 1: the shiny shuit. If I'm Diddy and I look at him, now, 1179 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm mad at you because that game unlocked your next level. 1180 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: You got that level of game from me. I ain't 1181 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: saying come out and support me. Just don't say nothing. 1182 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: Just let it be. Just don't say nothing. And a 1183 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 1: lot of these niggas are do the front facing shit like. 1184 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: They'll come out and say shit like that and then 1185 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 1: pay for a nigga. Lord, you're send a nigga to me. 1186 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 1: You know. They trying to let you know yo. I 1187 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: had to do that on some business shit man, before 1188 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: we were getting hot. In the meetings, they start bringing 1189 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: up pictures and shit in their meetings. And if it's that, 1190 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 1: I gotta respect that. You understand what I'm saying. I 1191 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: ain't never gonna tell nobody to go down with the ship. 1192 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't even tell people to pick my bags up. 1193 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm a different spirit, you know, so when we look 1194 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: at it, it's that. But if I'm Diddy, I'm upset 1195 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: because I'm saying I unlocked your game and you got 1196 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: that game from me back then and not the suit game. 1197 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: See you stupid little balls to see a nigga in 1198 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: a suit and think, oh, she talking about what do 1199 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 1: you What do you get from Diddy a suit? Again? Man, 1200 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm only talking to our community. If you knew here, 1201 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: man and you haven't subscribed, you not on. I'm talking 1202 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: to us like we know what I'm mom. We ain't 1203 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 1: talking about no suit. We talking about infrastructure. We talking 1204 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: about approach, right, We're talking about unlocking the next level. 1205 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 1: There's things that's indicators that will be signs. And as 1206 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: much as I love this interview, that's why I had 1207 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: the critique earlier of Yo, I gotta start to be 1208 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 1: more vocal about why I'm requiring these people to talk, 1209 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 1: because what will happen is they'll disrespect my game because 1210 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: they don't know who I am, right, And so sometimes 1211 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, I gotta accept it because I shouldn't 1212 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 1: expect everybody to know me, but I expect everybody to 1213 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: respect game because I understand game run the world. It's 1214 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 1: bigger than everybody. And when I say game is knowledge 1215 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: and information rule the world, it's a universal language. I've 1216 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: been all the way, my nigga. I've been literally all 1217 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 1: the way verifiable too. Now something happened to me today, 1218 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: you'll figure it out tomorrow. It's already set up like that, verifiable. 1219 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: I've been all the way, all cross the world with 1220 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 1: this game. So I'm saying game is world wide respected. 1221 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: So I be expecting niggas to respect game. But what 1222 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,479 Speaker 1: will happen is we got two different mindsets. They think 1223 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm reaching out to shoot content. Nigga. I do a podcast, 1224 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: but I don't do no motherfucking content. When I sit down, 1225 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 1: we breaking buriers. Nigga. This is cultural infrastructure shifting. Nigga. 1226 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: Sain't no motherfucking content, And so that's what be offensive. Nigga. 1227 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: I ain't calling no niggas to come sit up and 1228 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: talk about no bull shit. We're trying to get the 1229 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 1: game to some people. My nigga navigation seeing around them, 1230 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: folks man, you post to see it on them, folks man. 1231 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: That's your legacy, because in one hundred years, how many 1232 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: times you put the ball in the hoop ain't gonna 1233 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: mean nothing. In a hundred years, how many times people 1234 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 1: played your song ain't gonna mean nothing. The reason Pocket 1235 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 1: is respected the way he's respected is because he put 1236 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: it down the way we put it down over here. 1237 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Put it in the fucking interviews. If you got it, 1238 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 1: some of y'all ain't got it. But if you don't 1239 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 1: sustain at a high level for a long time, you 1240 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,439 Speaker 1: got the information that we need you to come out 1241 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: and no disrespect the phrase. I think he did a 1242 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 1: great job with the gqu interview. Jake knows who he is. 1243 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 1: He has to be a fan. I'm not familiar with 1244 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: that relationship. But I think I'm speaking for the community 1245 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 1: of people who understands what we need from Jay to 1246 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: help the entire race. And he has the right to 1247 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do. So this is not 1248 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: a call to action. This is an observation of what's 1249 01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: going on. It's like, Yo, come speak to the hustler. 1250 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 1: It's like it's like if you were at war and 1251 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 1: you see your president on the golf court shooting content. 1252 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,439 Speaker 1: It's like, is that what y'all gonna talk like jay Yo, 1253 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,160 Speaker 1: it's niggas. That's where you was at twenty years ago. 1254 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: They there right now, Nigga. They need some information on 1255 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: their next move, and somebody got to pull it out 1256 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: for him cause he just he's just like yo, whatever 1257 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 1: they need from me, Like what up? What we're doing? 1258 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So you got the has 1259 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: it's a dance. We need some of their vibration. But 1260 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean that I feel like it's like being at 1261 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: war and you see the president at the golf course 1262 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: or something shooting content. You gotta remember the state of rap. 1263 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: This is jay. I ain't but five of them niggas 1264 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 1: think about the state of rap and all our big 1265 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 1: dogs ain't. Nobody said nothing. Sales are down, Labels are collapsing. 1266 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: Rappers are confused. Rappers are confused. The labels don't figure 1267 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: it out of way since the last time y'all niggas 1268 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: were talking contracts and value and dealing with all of 1269 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 1: this shit, these labels don't fit figured out another way 1270 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: to hide the value in the contracts that mismanage the 1271 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: funds and not tell you about Like come on, man, like, 1272 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: come on, man. The artists need this shit, and these 1273 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: are some of the only people with the info on 1274 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: their hands, and so I feel as though that we 1275 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 1: got to do a better job at pulling some of 1276 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 1: that shit out. We need more from some of our 1277 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 1: big dogs. That ain't just for jay Z. That's for 1278 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: j Prince, That's for QCP Coach K You understand, Master 1279 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 1: P James lindsay. We need our people because they the 1280 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 1: ones with the information. Yay Diddy, my guy that broke 1281 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Sexy Red Lebron James Kevin Durant, like we need these 1282 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: gentlemen like we need y'all bro one hundred percent. But 1283 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 1: for the most part, man, that was a great interview 1284 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: with jay Z. You know, I was gonna do a 1285 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,479 Speaker 1: few more topics. I think I did enough for the day. 1286 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,800 Speaker 1: I record another one of Marcus. I gotta talk about 1287 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 1: this Rollo and Young Thug and it's Adan Ross and 1288 01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Wag one hundred. As matter of fact, hit one of 1289 01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 1: these boxes right here, come to Patreon. I'm just gonna 1290 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: put it on Patreon. Part two on Patreon right now. 1291 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 1: We're finna record right now, I'm finna go all the 1292 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: way up. Matter of fact, I'm confused at how I'll 1293 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,759 Speaker 1: tell you something that i'm thinking, and I'll be completely honest. 1294 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm seriously confused at how Aida Ross is handling Blue 1295 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 1: Face and Whack one hundred, and I'm gonna show you 1296 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 1: that they've been contradicting the entire time and Aiden Ross 1297 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: was treated a certain way by another boxer. I have 1298 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 1: the video and they've scrubbed it off the internet. One 1299 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Facts come to Patreon right now.