1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:26,468 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Yeah, we're live in New York City, 3 00:00:26,468 --> 00:00:27,908 Speaker 1: as we all took in that game up in New 4 00:00:27,948 --> 00:00:30,548 Speaker 1: England last night. It's Tuesday morning, October twenty fifth. I'm 5 00:00:30,628 --> 00:00:33,628 Speaker 1: Jamie Yurtle, foul MP, Peter Schrager, Jason mccordy, your friends 6 00:00:33,628 --> 00:00:35,428 Speaker 1: at the breakfast table, here to break it all down. 7 00:00:35,508 --> 00:00:39,028 Speaker 1: Your favorite teams will get to everyone's good and bads. 8 00:00:39,868 --> 00:00:42,468 Speaker 1: The Bears that feel good for that one, The Patriots 9 00:00:42,508 --> 00:00:47,028 Speaker 1: not so much. New England, the Northeast football. We've had 10 00:00:47,068 --> 00:00:49,228 Speaker 1: a lot about that, and there's different directions teams are 11 00:00:49,268 --> 00:00:51,228 Speaker 1: going in right now, Peter, There's they're one that excites 12 00:00:51,228 --> 00:00:52,548 Speaker 1: you the most up here and now. I mean, I 13 00:00:52,628 --> 00:00:54,508 Speaker 1: think the New York City situation right now at the 14 00:00:54,548 --> 00:00:56,308 Speaker 1: Giants and the Jets is feeling good and everyone's waiting 15 00:00:56,308 --> 00:00:58,148 Speaker 1: for their shoot to drop. But meanwhile they're five and 16 00:00:58,188 --> 00:01:00,548 Speaker 1: two and six and one. Go up to Foxborough they're 17 00:01:00,548 --> 00:01:02,268 Speaker 1: three and four, then right, and then the Pack. I 18 00:01:02,268 --> 00:01:04,868 Speaker 1: am sorry, this is a changing of the tides in 19 00:01:04,908 --> 00:01:07,668 Speaker 1: the NFL. Let's hang in the NFC East of articular. 20 00:01:07,708 --> 00:01:09,188 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about one of those New York teams. 21 00:01:09,228 --> 00:01:12,428 Speaker 1: Time for the lead block. Here's a look at something 22 00:01:12,468 --> 00:01:15,268 Speaker 1: that we should consider the best division in the NFL. 23 00:01:15,348 --> 00:01:17,188 Speaker 1: We just certainly didn't see this coming, but the Eagles 24 00:01:17,228 --> 00:01:20,188 Speaker 1: sit atop the NFC East after a week seven by 25 00:01:20,348 --> 00:01:24,148 Speaker 1: which had them watching their three divisional foes all tally wins. 26 00:01:24,228 --> 00:01:27,788 Speaker 1: Washington knocks out Free Bay, the Giants edge out the Jaguars, 27 00:01:27,788 --> 00:01:30,988 Speaker 1: and DAK was back to take down Detroit. While it 28 00:01:30,988 --> 00:01:33,748 Speaker 1: wasn't pretty, head coach Mike Parthy still was happy about 29 00:01:33,748 --> 00:01:39,508 Speaker 1: that win. After the game, Hey, all to see great win. 30 00:01:39,628 --> 00:01:43,548 Speaker 1: May hey third quarter quarter? Yeah? So hey, big plays, 31 00:01:43,988 --> 00:01:46,828 Speaker 1: great job. When do you get after the football? Sweet 32 00:01:46,828 --> 00:01:49,388 Speaker 1: all the way through? Hey, join this day and join 33 00:01:49,468 --> 00:01:51,188 Speaker 1: this one man Bay. Let's get in tomorrow. Let's clean 34 00:01:51,228 --> 00:01:52,788 Speaker 1: it up, make sure we continue to get better each 35 00:01:52,788 --> 00:01:54,508 Speaker 1: and every day. Go grind on three wat two three 36 00:01:54,548 --> 00:01:59,788 Speaker 1: guard two three grind grind Indeed that they did, Dak 37 00:01:59,788 --> 00:02:02,548 Speaker 1: prescott the Cowboys. It'll take that and probably a little 38 00:02:02,548 --> 00:02:05,348 Speaker 1: bit more to take the NFC East clutch away from 39 00:02:05,348 --> 00:02:08,108 Speaker 1: the Eagles and their talents they set atop the division. 40 00:02:08,588 --> 00:02:11,068 Speaker 1: From their perch, there's a lot of bird analogies right there. 41 00:02:11,148 --> 00:02:12,908 Speaker 1: Right right off the top of the show. Which of 42 00:02:12,988 --> 00:02:17,348 Speaker 1: these teams Commanders, Giants, Cowboys should the Eagles want to 43 00:02:17,388 --> 00:02:19,548 Speaker 1: face the least? Right now? Who are they? Who are 44 00:02:19,548 --> 00:02:25,708 Speaker 1: they balking at? Peter um bird analogy? Bird analogy? Unicorn? 45 00:02:26,188 --> 00:02:32,868 Speaker 1: That's not a birdie a flamingo? Call what McCall a McCall. 46 00:02:32,948 --> 00:02:35,548 Speaker 1: I've ever seen real passenger pigeon. They're extinct as a 47 00:02:35,548 --> 00:02:38,148 Speaker 1: pretty unique right, let's go with the McCall. I don't 48 00:02:38,188 --> 00:02:40,828 Speaker 1: know if that is Oh yeah, we don't do those 49 00:02:40,828 --> 00:02:43,908 Speaker 1: in my house. I go Feter McCall. Micah Parsons is 50 00:02:43,948 --> 00:02:47,508 Speaker 1: the McCall of the NFL, and that's who I at 51 00:02:47,588 --> 00:02:49,828 Speaker 1: least want to see these one of one. And I 52 00:02:49,868 --> 00:02:53,068 Speaker 1: think as this season goes on and the Giants continue 53 00:02:53,108 --> 00:02:56,028 Speaker 1: to stack wins and the Commanders are now suddenly hot 54 00:02:56,068 --> 00:02:57,748 Speaker 1: with two wins in a row and seem to have 55 00:02:57,788 --> 00:03:00,068 Speaker 1: a little bit of a groove going, this is going 56 00:03:00,108 --> 00:03:02,388 Speaker 1: to be the guy. And I said this two weeks 57 00:03:02,388 --> 00:03:04,268 Speaker 1: ago and got killed for it on Twitter. I'm gonna 58 00:03:04,268 --> 00:03:08,708 Speaker 1: say again, all right, as we're entering week eight with 59 00:03:08,868 --> 00:03:14,628 Speaker 1: the NFL's MVP conversation pretty wide open. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, 60 00:03:14,868 --> 00:03:18,468 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I still think there's a window for Michael 61 00:03:18,468 --> 00:03:20,828 Speaker 1: Parsons to be the first defensive player to win MVP 62 00:03:20,908 --> 00:03:24,788 Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty six. They've got a primetime schedule coming up, 63 00:03:24,828 --> 00:03:27,148 Speaker 1: a big slate. They've also got a Thanksgiving Day game 64 00:03:27,188 --> 00:03:30,468 Speaker 1: against the rival Giants. They've got a Christmas Eve game 65 00:03:30,628 --> 00:03:34,668 Speaker 1: against the rival Cowboys, arrival Eagles where it's gonna be 66 00:03:34,748 --> 00:03:38,028 Speaker 1: in Dallas. Michael Parsons has been blowing up games since 67 00:03:38,148 --> 00:03:40,428 Speaker 1: day one of this season, to the point where I 68 00:03:40,468 --> 00:03:42,588 Speaker 1: think every single time he steps on the field, he 69 00:03:42,748 --> 00:03:46,188 Speaker 1: is the best player in football. Lane Johnson went down 70 00:03:46,188 --> 00:03:48,428 Speaker 1: in the second half of that game against the Eagles 71 00:03:48,428 --> 00:03:50,828 Speaker 1: a few Sunday nights ago, and it was like the 72 00:03:50,908 --> 00:03:54,148 Speaker 1: game totally changed, and Michael Parsons was everywhere. He was 73 00:03:54,188 --> 00:03:57,508 Speaker 1: in coverage talking trash, mcdallas Goddard, he was blowing up plays, 74 00:03:57,588 --> 00:03:59,428 Speaker 1: and he was all in the face of Jalen Hurts. 75 00:03:59,748 --> 00:04:02,188 Speaker 1: I think Michael Parsons is the guy I least want 76 00:04:02,228 --> 00:04:05,548 Speaker 1: to see if I am a Philadelphia Eagles fan, a 77 00:04:05,588 --> 00:04:08,748 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles coach, or a Philadelphia Eagles player. And I'll 78 00:04:08,748 --> 00:04:11,388 Speaker 1: say it again in Week eight, call me crazy. I 79 00:04:11,428 --> 00:04:13,628 Speaker 1: think when we check back in Christmas Eve, when they 80 00:04:13,628 --> 00:04:15,668 Speaker 1: play the Eagles in the late part of the season 81 00:04:15,708 --> 00:04:19,388 Speaker 1: Week sixteen, Week seventeen, Week eighteen, Michael Parsons will be 82 00:04:19,428 --> 00:04:22,868 Speaker 1: as much a part of the MVP conversation as Jalen Hurts, 83 00:04:23,108 --> 00:04:25,868 Speaker 1: as Patrick Mahomes, as Josh Allen, and as Joe Burrow. 84 00:04:25,868 --> 00:04:27,588 Speaker 1: And yes, I put Joe Burrow in there because he's 85 00:04:27,628 --> 00:04:30,588 Speaker 1: now throwing for four eighty one and three touchdowns. Michael 86 00:04:30,588 --> 00:04:32,508 Speaker 1: Parsons is a unicorn. He has a MC call. I 87 00:04:32,508 --> 00:04:33,908 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm a call is. I just the 88 00:04:33,948 --> 00:04:36,108 Speaker 1: city did it in my brain? Didn't exists? I'm hoping 89 00:04:36,108 --> 00:04:38,548 Speaker 1: it does. It does exist. It's an actual type of birth, 90 00:04:38,628 --> 00:04:42,708 Speaker 1: not as a character in a movie. So Michael Parsons 91 00:04:42,868 --> 00:04:46,388 Speaker 1: is a unicorn and a McCall as, just like Peter said. 92 00:04:46,588 --> 00:04:49,628 Speaker 1: And it's hard to argue against that because Parsons with 93 00:04:49,788 --> 00:04:54,148 Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense has been quietly amazing. But for me, 94 00:04:54,228 --> 00:04:56,228 Speaker 1: it's still the Cowboys. But I want to talk about 95 00:04:56,268 --> 00:04:59,908 Speaker 1: another guy. Yes, Dak Prescott's back. Tony Poller has been explosive. 96 00:04:59,908 --> 00:05:03,588 Speaker 1: He's been fun to watch. Ezekiel Elliott, let's give him 97 00:05:03,628 --> 00:05:06,868 Speaker 1: some love. All in the preseason, everybody was talking about Zinkiel. 98 00:05:06,868 --> 00:05:09,868 Speaker 1: You're making all this money. He doesn't look as explosive. 99 00:05:10,068 --> 00:05:11,828 Speaker 1: What is he gonna do? What is he gonna be? 100 00:05:12,028 --> 00:05:14,268 Speaker 1: We saw him last Sunday Night, that the last time 101 00:05:14,308 --> 00:05:16,628 Speaker 1: they played that week six Sunday Night game. He was 102 00:05:16,668 --> 00:05:19,748 Speaker 1: averaging over six yards a carry, scoring a touchdown, and 103 00:05:19,788 --> 00:05:22,308 Speaker 1: he really kept them in that game. And over his 104 00:05:22,388 --> 00:05:25,228 Speaker 1: last four games against the Eagles, four hundred and thirty 105 00:05:25,228 --> 00:05:28,108 Speaker 1: one scrimmash yards and three touchdowns. This is a guy 106 00:05:28,148 --> 00:05:30,668 Speaker 1: with Dad just coming back, He's gonna continue to get 107 00:05:30,708 --> 00:05:33,548 Speaker 1: things going. By time they faced this Eagles team, if 108 00:05:33,548 --> 00:05:36,748 Speaker 1: they can have Ezekiel, Elliott rolling, Tony Pollo rolling, and 109 00:05:36,908 --> 00:05:40,228 Speaker 1: Dad can get comfortable, Dallas can be a scary team. 110 00:05:40,228 --> 00:05:43,068 Speaker 1: Mixed in with how well they played on the defensive 111 00:05:43,068 --> 00:05:44,868 Speaker 1: side of the ball. So when you look at this 112 00:05:44,908 --> 00:05:48,468 Speaker 1: Eagles team standing undefeated and they're looking down on the division, 113 00:05:48,468 --> 00:05:50,188 Speaker 1: if there's one team I say, hey, I would love 114 00:05:50,228 --> 00:05:52,908 Speaker 1: to stay clear of them, it's this Dallas Cowboys team. 115 00:05:52,948 --> 00:05:56,148 Speaker 1: They found a way to win games without their franchise quarterback. 116 00:05:56,388 --> 00:05:58,588 Speaker 1: And now they're getting him back. He's gonna be getting 117 00:05:58,588 --> 00:06:00,788 Speaker 1: healthy and they figured out the form a little win. 118 00:06:00,908 --> 00:06:03,228 Speaker 1: As I've said many times on this show, they're gonna 119 00:06:03,228 --> 00:06:05,348 Speaker 1: be a scary team to play again. They are scary, 120 00:06:05,388 --> 00:06:07,708 Speaker 1: and you know what else is scary beaks and talents. 121 00:06:08,588 --> 00:06:10,588 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking birds. Jamie got to start on the 122 00:06:10,588 --> 00:06:13,228 Speaker 1: bird thing. So I'm thinking eagles. What are the naturally 123 00:06:13,228 --> 00:06:17,548 Speaker 1: occurring enemies or predators of bald eagles in the wild? 124 00:06:17,628 --> 00:06:20,228 Speaker 1: All right, So nobody's really going after them because they're 125 00:06:20,268 --> 00:06:21,868 Speaker 1: up here. At what they do though, and this is 126 00:06:21,908 --> 00:06:24,188 Speaker 1: really dirty? Is they you know, they go after the eggs, 127 00:06:24,388 --> 00:06:27,348 Speaker 1: and it's in its raccoons and it's bears. Here we go, right, 128 00:06:27,388 --> 00:06:28,908 Speaker 1: So what's the real enemy of a bald eagle? I 129 00:06:28,908 --> 00:06:31,268 Speaker 1: would say communism, But also if you look it up 130 00:06:31,308 --> 00:06:35,068 Speaker 1: like the it's us, it's human beings, the deforestation, Peter, 131 00:06:35,148 --> 00:06:38,508 Speaker 1: the expansion in the mirror. Sometimes you look right here 132 00:06:38,508 --> 00:06:40,148 Speaker 1: in the mirror. That was one of a different direct peiod. 133 00:06:40,148 --> 00:06:44,188 Speaker 1: I got heavy human beings. Human beings would be, of course, cowboys. 134 00:06:44,228 --> 00:06:46,708 Speaker 1: They don't have to be giant ones. Okay, they don't 135 00:06:46,748 --> 00:06:48,948 Speaker 1: have to be the commanders. They're just riding their horse 136 00:06:48,988 --> 00:06:51,148 Speaker 1: and they got a lasso. It's the cowboys and the 137 00:06:51,428 --> 00:06:53,708 Speaker 1: stats speak for themselves. Eagles are having a great season. 138 00:06:53,788 --> 00:06:56,308 Speaker 1: Every Eagles fan knows there's something beneath the surface, and 139 00:06:56,348 --> 00:06:59,348 Speaker 1: it's this. Is that the Dak Prescott Cowboys. Guys, it's 140 00:06:59,388 --> 00:07:01,988 Speaker 1: not good, all right? You want you lost this year 141 00:07:01,988 --> 00:07:04,748 Speaker 1: it's it's Cooper Rush. And then last year is this awful? 142 00:07:04,828 --> 00:07:07,548 Speaker 1: You got destroyed. Once you got to straight again, you 143 00:07:07,588 --> 00:07:09,868 Speaker 1: go back to It's not been losses to the Cowboys. 144 00:07:09,908 --> 00:07:12,868 Speaker 1: It's been blowouts. It's been bad. And so I feel 145 00:07:12,868 --> 00:07:14,508 Speaker 1: like it's a little bit of a record scratch for 146 00:07:14,548 --> 00:07:17,628 Speaker 1: the Eagles and that we're enjoying this amazing season, but 147 00:07:17,668 --> 00:07:19,948 Speaker 1: we can't beat the team that we hate the most. 148 00:07:20,268 --> 00:07:22,588 Speaker 1: We need to beat Dallas. It's kind of like it's 149 00:07:22,628 --> 00:07:24,468 Speaker 1: the fly in the ointment of this and that's another 150 00:07:24,508 --> 00:07:27,628 Speaker 1: thing that flies. Um. I think it's Dallas. I really do, 151 00:07:27,868 --> 00:07:30,388 Speaker 1: because the Micael Parsons things. Sure, but if like it 152 00:07:30,508 --> 00:07:32,468 Speaker 1: put it this way, if Dallas were to beat Philly, 153 00:07:32,508 --> 00:07:34,428 Speaker 1: I don't care if Philly is undefeated. It feels like 154 00:07:34,428 --> 00:07:36,508 Speaker 1: it feels like three losses, like we can't even take 155 00:07:36,508 --> 00:07:38,148 Speaker 1: care of our own neighborhood. We're gonna win the whole 156 00:07:38,188 --> 00:07:39,788 Speaker 1: NSC in the Super Bow We're gonna go to Arizona 157 00:07:39,828 --> 00:07:41,548 Speaker 1: and play the Bills in the Super Bowl. No, you 158 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:44,348 Speaker 1: gotta beat Dallas in your own division. They're taking your 159 00:07:44,348 --> 00:07:47,388 Speaker 1: eggs from the nest. Jamie, that's what's happening. Um, bigot, 160 00:07:47,788 --> 00:07:50,788 Speaker 1: We're gonna a bird rabbit hole. Now we have to 161 00:07:50,788 --> 00:07:56,188 Speaker 1: do whatever, biggest. Yeah, but that's you were just speaking 162 00:07:56,188 --> 00:08:02,948 Speaker 1: to the Austrasig. They don't fly the most giant bird ever. 163 00:08:03,868 --> 00:08:07,868 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I had to pivot around the table, 164 00:08:07,908 --> 00:08:10,588 Speaker 1: I know. To me him, this is very much more. 165 00:08:10,708 --> 00:08:13,268 Speaker 1: This isn't stat related, This isn't excess nose. This is 166 00:08:13,308 --> 00:08:17,308 Speaker 1: like headline story direction, if you will. Because right now 167 00:08:17,308 --> 00:08:20,188 Speaker 1: the New York Giants are rolling. New York City feels great. 168 00:08:20,468 --> 00:08:24,748 Speaker 1: New York is back. According to one Peter Schreeger, very 169 00:08:24,828 --> 00:08:27,588 Speaker 1: much behind the wheels of sa Quon Barkley. He is 170 00:08:27,628 --> 00:08:30,388 Speaker 1: the ostrich of the Giants office. Daniel Jones spectacular too, 171 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:32,548 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but here hang with me. Here 172 00:08:32,828 --> 00:08:34,868 Speaker 1: you have sa Quon Barkley and he is the headline 173 00:08:34,908 --> 00:08:37,348 Speaker 1: for this Giants team. He is the story. If they 174 00:08:37,388 --> 00:08:39,868 Speaker 1: go on and say Quan is he proclaimed it in August. 175 00:08:39,908 --> 00:08:42,188 Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna go crazy. I'm gonna show everybody 176 00:08:42,188 --> 00:08:44,628 Speaker 1: what I've done with some expletives mixed in there. This 177 00:08:44,748 --> 00:08:47,588 Speaker 1: is his season? Whose season is it for the Eagles. 178 00:08:47,668 --> 00:08:49,908 Speaker 1: Let's look at some options here, okay? Because if sa 179 00:08:50,068 --> 00:08:52,868 Speaker 1: Quan is the guy, we'll hang with him, all right? 180 00:08:53,068 --> 00:08:55,948 Speaker 1: Is it? Jaalin hurts very much in the MVP conversation? 181 00:08:56,628 --> 00:08:58,548 Speaker 1: Change it? Who is the other option here? He got 182 00:08:58,548 --> 00:09:01,948 Speaker 1: a J Brown? That would be another option. He feels 183 00:09:01,948 --> 00:09:04,508 Speaker 1: like he was wronged in his departure from Tennessee. He 184 00:09:04,508 --> 00:09:07,668 Speaker 1: gets traded Philadelphia. Can he prove himself as wide receiver 185 00:09:07,788 --> 00:09:09,468 Speaker 1: one on a team that could go to the Super Bowl? 186 00:09:09,668 --> 00:09:12,388 Speaker 1: Still saw barclay on that's I rule it all right? 187 00:09:12,468 --> 00:09:15,628 Speaker 1: The one name big play Slay is he gonna get 188 00:09:15,668 --> 00:09:17,788 Speaker 1: the best of the Giants when they play each other. 189 00:09:18,188 --> 00:09:20,668 Speaker 1: And then there's this guy roll it. What are we 190 00:09:20,708 --> 00:09:23,708 Speaker 1: gonna look at here? Is it? Oh? Myness? Who is 191 00:09:23,748 --> 00:09:27,748 Speaker 1: the Chester in disguise? Oh Kelsey? That says I don't 192 00:09:27,788 --> 00:09:30,548 Speaker 1: care about what I wear to a game. I'm not 193 00:09:30,628 --> 00:09:33,508 Speaker 1: about my brother's fashion sense, but I do care what 194 00:09:33,588 --> 00:09:37,188 Speaker 1: I wear a Super Bowl parade. These two will come 195 00:09:37,228 --> 00:09:39,468 Speaker 1: to clash, and it to me, it becomes a question 196 00:09:39,508 --> 00:09:42,388 Speaker 1: of the Giants has such a feel good thing going 197 00:09:42,508 --> 00:09:44,628 Speaker 1: right now that they feel like the one that could 198 00:09:44,708 --> 00:09:48,108 Speaker 1: ruin the parade, feeling that Philadelphia literally as a whole 199 00:09:48,148 --> 00:09:51,068 Speaker 1: town right now shout out, Philly's going to the World Series. 200 00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:53,388 Speaker 1: I want to say a Super Bowl that Giants feel 201 00:09:53,388 --> 00:09:55,588 Speaker 1: like the one feel good storyline that could kind of 202 00:09:55,588 --> 00:10:07,308 Speaker 1: win it for Philadelphia does feel very good. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. 203 00:10:07,748 --> 00:10:09,588 Speaker 1: Jamie asked a great question. We're doing a bird theme 204 00:10:09,588 --> 00:10:11,428 Speaker 1: for Power rankings. No, we're not. Time to check out 205 00:10:11,468 --> 00:10:13,268 Speaker 1: the Power rankings by Dan has Us ahead of weekend. 206 00:10:13,268 --> 00:10:15,348 Speaker 1: We always do a theme. Earlier in the show, the 207 00:10:15,388 --> 00:10:17,708 Speaker 1: anger run Sceptor went to the Titans actually on the 208 00:10:17,708 --> 00:10:20,908 Speaker 1: strength of a moving hug between Mike Vrabel and Ben Jones, 209 00:10:20,908 --> 00:10:22,588 Speaker 1: who was happy runs for a little moment. So we're 210 00:10:22,588 --> 00:10:27,348 Speaker 1: gonna do a theme of memorable cinematic hugs with the 211 00:10:27,588 --> 00:10:30,948 Speaker 1: Forest and Jenny Division big old hug of the Washington monument. 212 00:10:30,948 --> 00:10:33,028 Speaker 1: My thoughts on jennior Well documentary. You probably grabbed his 213 00:10:33,028 --> 00:10:35,788 Speaker 1: wallet while they were hugging thirty two. The Houston Texans 214 00:10:36,028 --> 00:10:38,428 Speaker 1: the worst team down on the bottom, right, The Lions 215 00:10:38,428 --> 00:10:40,868 Speaker 1: just can't get a win, and then the Panthers destroy 216 00:10:40,948 --> 00:10:43,388 Speaker 1: the Bucks and their reward as they climb up to thirty. 217 00:10:43,668 --> 00:10:46,588 Speaker 1: Moving on to the Michael and Fredo Hug Division, the 218 00:10:46,628 --> 00:10:49,188 Speaker 1: true end of brotherly love, a harbinger for things to come. 219 00:10:49,348 --> 00:10:53,388 Speaker 1: Upper left corner, New England Patriots lost last night, seventeen bucks. 220 00:10:53,628 --> 00:10:56,308 Speaker 1: These are just the middling teams. Cardinals at twenty. Behind 221 00:10:56,308 --> 00:10:58,908 Speaker 1: those teams interesting and then the Falcons kind of broke 222 00:10:58,948 --> 00:11:00,708 Speaker 1: my heart last week, got smashed by the Bengals. But 223 00:11:00,748 --> 00:11:03,348 Speaker 1: we move on to the Willie Walker and Charlie Buckett 224 00:11:03,388 --> 00:11:05,948 Speaker 1: on the Great Glass Elevation Hug. Finally the Buckets get 225 00:11:05,988 --> 00:11:07,348 Speaker 1: to move out of that shack and his mom can 226 00:11:07,428 --> 00:11:09,788 Speaker 1: stop working double shifts at the laundry. On the left, 227 00:11:10,108 --> 00:11:13,228 Speaker 1: the Titans because we're gonna have let us soup, and 228 00:11:13,308 --> 00:11:16,388 Speaker 1: the Titans at number nine, the Jets at ten. The 229 00:11:16,468 --> 00:11:19,108 Speaker 1: Jets are in the top ten. It's so exciting. The 230 00:11:19,228 --> 00:11:21,548 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs just kind of hanging around at eleven. 231 00:11:21,628 --> 00:11:23,588 Speaker 1: The Niners raiders on and out and on. But we 232 00:11:23,668 --> 00:11:26,388 Speaker 1: move so the number one, the Rocky and Apollo on 233 00:11:26,428 --> 00:11:28,428 Speaker 1: the beach in the short shorts and the high socks 234 00:11:28,468 --> 00:11:31,508 Speaker 1: jumping around getting their shoes wet in rocky three Buffalo 235 00:11:31,508 --> 00:11:34,468 Speaker 1: Bill's best team in the land, according to Dan hands Us. 236 00:11:34,468 --> 00:11:39,388 Speaker 1: Then Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, four Bengals are back at five 237 00:11:39,508 --> 00:11:42,308 Speaker 1: those in New York Football Giants six Vikings off of 238 00:11:42,348 --> 00:11:45,508 Speaker 1: buy it's the only one loss to the number two seed. There, 239 00:11:45,588 --> 00:11:48,588 Speaker 1: the Eagles, and then finally the Baltimore Ravens. Hanging out around, 240 00:11:48,788 --> 00:11:51,268 Speaker 1: hanging out around. Let's go in. He's always hanging around, 241 00:11:51,268 --> 00:11:52,868 Speaker 1: ready to talk power workings, the man behind the power 242 00:11:53,028 --> 00:11:56,188 Speaker 1: Daniel hands us, what's up? Dan, Hey, what's up? First 243 00:11:56,188 --> 00:11:59,828 Speaker 1: of all, I'm scrambling to google bird analogies and trying 244 00:11:59,828 --> 00:12:01,548 Speaker 1: to come up something. And then you go up the Hugs. 245 00:12:02,068 --> 00:12:04,508 Speaker 1: Did you did you not mention Andy and Red on 246 00:12:04,548 --> 00:12:10,348 Speaker 1: the beach and Shawshank Pretty pretty good? That's all right. 247 00:12:10,388 --> 00:12:12,748 Speaker 1: They're rounded up the next day and deported back to Maine. 248 00:12:13,148 --> 00:12:16,388 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers, added Christian McCaffrey. Hope is a 249 00:12:16,388 --> 00:12:19,068 Speaker 1: wonderful thing. Dan. It's certainly the power ranking world. But 250 00:12:19,108 --> 00:12:22,068 Speaker 1: his performance. McCaffrey's was not the most notable aspect of 251 00:12:22,068 --> 00:12:24,388 Speaker 1: their game against the Chiefs. As a teleprompter says, here 252 00:12:24,468 --> 00:12:26,228 Speaker 1: what stood out to you about the forty nine Ers 253 00:12:26,228 --> 00:12:29,788 Speaker 1: lost in Kansas City. Dan, Yeah, I mean it stood 254 00:12:29,788 --> 00:12:32,868 Speaker 1: out that McCaffrey's there. It looks right, the number twenty three, 255 00:12:32,908 --> 00:12:36,788 Speaker 1: I'm already used to it. But they could not keep 256 00:12:36,828 --> 00:12:39,668 Speaker 1: pace there on offense when you got a juggernaut in 257 00:12:39,708 --> 00:12:42,388 Speaker 1: their building there, the Chiefs just started scoring touchdowns and 258 00:12:42,668 --> 00:12:45,228 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers were asked the match and said 259 00:12:45,228 --> 00:12:47,308 Speaker 1: they were kicking field goals and Jimmy G was thrown 260 00:12:47,348 --> 00:12:50,308 Speaker 1: a horrendous end zone interception that changed that game at 261 00:12:50,348 --> 00:12:52,468 Speaker 1: the end of the half. So we know their defense 262 00:12:52,588 --> 00:12:55,308 Speaker 1: is compromised right now by injury. So you give them 263 00:12:55,308 --> 00:12:57,428 Speaker 1: a little bit of a pass for not being able 264 00:12:57,428 --> 00:12:59,628 Speaker 1: to shut down the homes. Few teams can right now. 265 00:13:00,108 --> 00:13:03,148 Speaker 1: But you just have concerns if a shootout breaks out 266 00:13:03,628 --> 00:13:06,108 Speaker 1: the Jimmy G instead of Trey Lance and everything that 267 00:13:06,148 --> 00:13:08,388 Speaker 1: goes with it. Even with McCaffrey, are they built to 268 00:13:08,388 --> 00:13:11,028 Speaker 1: win a game when they have to score thirty points. 269 00:13:11,068 --> 00:13:12,788 Speaker 1: We kind of got to see it, and we haven't yet. 270 00:13:14,588 --> 00:13:18,388 Speaker 1: So Dan, two future Halliday quarterbacks, two teams struggling to 271 00:13:18,508 --> 00:13:21,148 Speaker 1: end their losing streaks. Is there a possibility that both 272 00:13:21,148 --> 00:13:23,348 Speaker 1: the Hackers and the Buccaneers could be ranked in the 273 00:13:23,548 --> 00:13:26,948 Speaker 1: twenties in the Forest and Jenny Division. If they both 274 00:13:26,988 --> 00:13:31,068 Speaker 1: suffer losses again this week, it's certainly possible. I mean, 275 00:13:31,628 --> 00:13:36,388 Speaker 1: they're both in primetime Tampa against Baltimore, Buffalo and Green Bay. 276 00:13:36,468 --> 00:13:39,708 Speaker 1: And you know, Jamie, I feel like this Tom Brady 277 00:13:39,708 --> 00:13:43,308 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers disappointment thing going on this year has 278 00:13:43,308 --> 00:13:46,228 Speaker 1: been destabilizing, not just to the Power rankings but the 279 00:13:46,228 --> 00:13:49,588 Speaker 1: whole of the NFL. And it's hard to kind of 280 00:13:49,628 --> 00:13:51,628 Speaker 1: make sense of it, but you watch it week after 281 00:13:51,708 --> 00:13:54,188 Speaker 1: week and it doesn't feel like a fluke. It really 282 00:13:54,188 --> 00:13:57,508 Speaker 1: does feel like offenses that are stuck in more than 283 00:13:57,548 --> 00:14:00,508 Speaker 1: a rut, just fundamentally some issues here. So yes, I 284 00:14:00,588 --> 00:14:03,908 Speaker 1: think if they suffer lopsided losses against two teams that 285 00:14:04,428 --> 00:14:06,828 Speaker 1: I have hired them in the power rankings, they won't 286 00:14:06,908 --> 00:14:10,068 Speaker 1: crater unless they completely get their doors blown off. But yeah, 287 00:14:10,068 --> 00:14:13,268 Speaker 1: they'll dip into the twenties more than likely. And it's 288 00:14:13,308 --> 00:14:16,108 Speaker 1: just one of the more shocking subplots of the season, 289 00:14:16,228 --> 00:14:19,148 Speaker 1: both in the real NFL and in the fake power rankings. 290 00:14:19,228 --> 00:14:21,388 Speaker 1: They're not fake, they're the only real power rankings there are. 291 00:14:21,508 --> 00:14:23,948 Speaker 1: And you know what, everyone that thinks they have them, 292 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:30,588 Speaker 1: but never mind, keep going because those dams are sliding. 293 00:14:30,668 --> 00:14:32,988 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are rising up. They're up to number four, 294 00:14:33,468 --> 00:14:36,548 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott return. They got to win. What makes you 295 00:14:36,628 --> 00:14:38,948 Speaker 1: so confident that just Cowboy teams is still gonna ros 296 00:14:40,428 --> 00:14:44,748 Speaker 1: Devin Michael Parsons is a maccaw. That's a bird, I think, 297 00:14:45,548 --> 00:14:48,708 Speaker 1: And I think that is the key to all of 298 00:14:48,708 --> 00:14:52,628 Speaker 1: this is their defense. Because in past years, and this 299 00:14:52,708 --> 00:14:54,748 Speaker 1: is all the way going back to the Roma era, 300 00:14:55,148 --> 00:14:57,588 Speaker 1: they would have a high, you know, flying offense and 301 00:14:57,628 --> 00:14:59,948 Speaker 1: then you'd wonder, well, it's just going to travel to January, 302 00:14:59,948 --> 00:15:02,668 Speaker 1: and sometimes it did and sometimes it didn't, but ultimately 303 00:15:02,708 --> 00:15:05,068 Speaker 1: they would fall short of their goal. But this is 304 00:15:05,068 --> 00:15:07,988 Speaker 1: such a well balanced team that it does feel like 305 00:15:08,028 --> 00:15:11,468 Speaker 1: a team that's built to both make the playoffs, maybe 306 00:15:11,468 --> 00:15:13,908 Speaker 1: take the NFC East and make a deep run. I'd 307 00:15:13,908 --> 00:15:16,028 Speaker 1: like that. The running game. It's no longer you know, 308 00:15:16,148 --> 00:15:18,548 Speaker 1: talking about whether Zeke Ellie deserves to have a big role. No, 309 00:15:18,708 --> 00:15:21,268 Speaker 1: He's part of the offense and he has his role, 310 00:15:22,108 --> 00:15:24,628 Speaker 1: and Tony Pollard has his role, and Dak's only going 311 00:15:24,668 --> 00:15:26,628 Speaker 1: to get better. And then when you factor in what 312 00:15:26,668 --> 00:15:29,788 Speaker 1: the defense does week after week, this is a well balanced, 313 00:15:29,988 --> 00:15:32,628 Speaker 1: well coached team Mike McCarthy, give him, Mike McCarthy some 314 00:15:32,748 --> 00:15:35,268 Speaker 1: love that he doesn't get enough. He does deserve some love. 315 00:15:35,468 --> 00:15:38,668 Speaker 1: He deserves the love. I'm gonna combine everything here. Okay, 316 00:15:38,708 --> 00:15:41,228 Speaker 1: you're a resident Jets fan at a NFL network, you 317 00:15:41,308 --> 00:15:44,108 Speaker 1: bleed Jets green, you've been through it, and we're talking 318 00:15:44,148 --> 00:15:46,788 Speaker 1: about hugs. I'm gonna go to Robin Williams as Professor 319 00:15:46,868 --> 00:15:51,428 Speaker 1: McGuire with will hunting hugging him. It's not your fault. 320 00:15:52,868 --> 00:15:55,308 Speaker 1: That's me to you right now, Dan, after this Bruce 321 00:15:55,388 --> 00:15:57,988 Speaker 1: Hall news and the Vera Tucker news. It's not your fault. 322 00:15:58,428 --> 00:16:01,308 Speaker 1: It's not your fault. Very meaningful moving scene, and I 323 00:16:01,308 --> 00:16:02,948 Speaker 1: feel like that way with all the Jet fans right now, 324 00:16:02,988 --> 00:16:04,748 Speaker 1: just I want to embrace them. It's not you. I 325 00:16:04,748 --> 00:16:08,108 Speaker 1: promise it's not your fault. What's your mental state as 326 00:16:08,188 --> 00:16:10,468 Speaker 1: a Jets fan? Even though on the top ten of 327 00:16:10,468 --> 00:16:13,788 Speaker 1: the power rankings, you know this one hurt when Tom 328 00:16:13,788 --> 00:16:17,428 Speaker 1: Pellicero dropped that news yesterday. Don't you do this to me, Peter, 329 00:16:17,588 --> 00:16:22,908 Speaker 1: not you two, not you two. It's not good. I'm 330 00:16:22,988 --> 00:16:26,348 Speaker 1: really the Jam James Jobameson pickup was good and Joe 331 00:16:26,428 --> 00:16:29,188 Speaker 1: Douglas if he calls you on the phone. Other gems 332 00:16:29,228 --> 00:16:32,268 Speaker 1: hang up. But I can't help but think that this 333 00:16:32,668 --> 00:16:34,748 Speaker 1: kind of lowered the ceiling a little bit for the Jets. 334 00:16:34,748 --> 00:16:37,748 Speaker 1: It feels like anything as possible. I felt like it 335 00:16:37,788 --> 00:16:40,708 Speaker 1: was anything was possible in this wide open NFL landscape. 336 00:16:40,948 --> 00:16:43,268 Speaker 1: Why not us? I know, obviously the Chiefs and Bills 337 00:16:43,348 --> 00:16:44,948 Speaker 1: are the cream of the crop, but the Jets were 338 00:16:45,028 --> 00:16:47,988 Speaker 1: kind of right there potentially if some things clicked, and 339 00:16:48,028 --> 00:16:49,748 Speaker 1: I think it does put a little ceiling because it's 340 00:16:49,788 --> 00:16:51,388 Speaker 1: not just Breeze Hall, who I think was going to 341 00:16:51,428 --> 00:16:53,988 Speaker 1: be the offensive rookie of the year. Elijah Verry Tucker 342 00:16:54,068 --> 00:16:56,268 Speaker 1: going out for the year is such a huge loss 343 00:16:56,308 --> 00:16:58,068 Speaker 1: to that offensive line. It's going to put a lot 344 00:16:58,068 --> 00:17:00,908 Speaker 1: of pressure on Zach Wilson now, who every Jet fan 345 00:17:01,428 --> 00:17:04,188 Speaker 1: is optimistic and feeling great right now about the team 346 00:17:04,188 --> 00:17:07,988 Speaker 1: finally being relevant again. But we all see what's going on, 347 00:17:08,108 --> 00:17:10,068 Speaker 1: and we see that Wilson looks a little lost the 348 00:17:10,148 --> 00:17:13,348 Speaker 1: last two weeks. There's some mark sanchaesi and vibes dating 349 00:17:13,388 --> 00:17:16,268 Speaker 1: back to two thousand and nine. I'm just very concerned. 350 00:17:16,588 --> 00:17:18,668 Speaker 1: I'm very concerned Wilson's not going to be up to 351 00:17:18,708 --> 00:17:20,668 Speaker 1: the test, especially now that Moore is probably gonna be 352 00:17:20,708 --> 00:17:22,828 Speaker 1: put on his plate if the Jets really are the 353 00:17:22,868 --> 00:17:26,388 Speaker 1: real deal. Dan, someday we're gonna show up for the 354 00:17:26,388 --> 00:17:29,068 Speaker 1: Power Rankings and you're just gonna be gone. No goodbye, 355 00:17:29,348 --> 00:17:31,908 Speaker 1: no see you later, You're just gone. In the meantime, 356 00:17:31,948 --> 00:17:33,868 Speaker 1: you're sure to check out NFL Power Rankings, presented by 357 00:17:33,948 --> 00:17:37,148 Speaker 1: Energizer every Tuesday on NFL dot com. Dan likes his 358 00:17:37,268 --> 00:17:40,108 Speaker 1: rock bands like his orange juice with some pulp. Thank you, Dan, 359 00:17:40,148 --> 00:17:47,388 Speaker 1: we love you. Thank you. Not a Patriots talk here 360 00:17:47,428 --> 00:17:49,708 Speaker 1: on the show. A lot of Patriots quarterback talk on 361 00:17:49,748 --> 00:17:53,068 Speaker 1: the show this morning. Were now welcome a man who 362 00:17:53,108 --> 00:17:55,868 Speaker 1: knows that position and that team all too well. Let's 363 00:17:55,868 --> 00:17:59,828 Speaker 1: welcome in three time Super Bowl winner, mister Scott pol 364 00:18:01,388 --> 00:18:06,388 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, greetings from Austin, Texas. It looks 365 00:18:06,388 --> 00:18:08,188 Speaker 1: like you're there, hook them horns. But let's go up 366 00:18:08,228 --> 00:18:11,228 Speaker 1: to Foxborough last night where we had this situation where 367 00:18:11,228 --> 00:18:13,988 Speaker 1: Belichick starts Mac Jones, he gets three series, he put 368 00:18:13,988 --> 00:18:18,188 Speaker 1: back in zappy. We might have a little quarterback thing 369 00:18:18,228 --> 00:18:20,788 Speaker 1: going on. Your initial reaction watching this from afar with 370 00:18:20,868 --> 00:18:24,348 Speaker 1: an organization you know so well, well, First the quarterback thing, 371 00:18:24,628 --> 00:18:26,668 Speaker 1: Bill said after the game that he had this plan, 372 00:18:26,868 --> 00:18:28,828 Speaker 1: and I think the plan was probably and this is 373 00:18:28,868 --> 00:18:31,468 Speaker 1: me guessing that if Mac didn't look like Mac, he 374 00:18:31,548 --> 00:18:33,708 Speaker 1: was going to make the switch. And very early out 375 00:18:33,708 --> 00:18:36,068 Speaker 1: of the gate, Mac didn't look like Mac. He made 376 00:18:36,068 --> 00:18:38,668 Speaker 1: this switch because he thought that because what Zappy had 377 00:18:38,668 --> 00:18:41,268 Speaker 1: done would give them the best chance to win. And 378 00:18:41,308 --> 00:18:44,108 Speaker 1: that's all the Bill cares about. That is his job. 379 00:18:44,188 --> 00:18:46,388 Speaker 1: He has to focus on. What he cares about is 380 00:18:46,388 --> 00:18:48,348 Speaker 1: winning the game and who gives him the best chance 381 00:18:48,388 --> 00:18:49,948 Speaker 1: to win the game, and that's what they did. The 382 00:18:49,988 --> 00:18:52,148 Speaker 1: part that shocked me though, was the way that the 383 00:18:52,188 --> 00:18:55,028 Speaker 1: Patriots defense didn't play. I mean the Bears came in 384 00:18:55,068 --> 00:18:57,228 Speaker 1: and rolled for two hundred and forty three yards rushing 385 00:18:57,508 --> 00:18:59,268 Speaker 1: the way they did it with the quarterback, I don't 386 00:18:59,308 --> 00:19:02,548 Speaker 1: think anyone was anticipating that, But kudos to the Bears 387 00:19:02,548 --> 00:19:04,268 Speaker 1: and the way that they did things. They did a 388 00:19:05,028 --> 00:19:07,508 Speaker 1: great job. We can let you finish your point where 389 00:19:07,548 --> 00:19:08,788 Speaker 1: we could talk Brady, where do you want to go 390 00:19:08,828 --> 00:19:12,388 Speaker 1: at this? Guys, I've never seen Brady Scott look like this. 391 00:19:12,468 --> 00:19:15,508 Speaker 1: Take them wherever you want. Yeah, I'll just say this again. 392 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:18,148 Speaker 1: What I was thinking about the Patriots is historically what 393 00:19:18,188 --> 00:19:20,548 Speaker 1: they've been able to compliment a young quarterback with is 394 00:19:20,548 --> 00:19:23,468 Speaker 1: a really strong defense. They didn't have that last night. 395 00:19:23,508 --> 00:19:26,908 Speaker 1: That's how they win games. And to Chicago's point, you know, 396 00:19:27,028 --> 00:19:29,228 Speaker 1: the other thing that happens with backup quarterbacks is it 397 00:19:29,228 --> 00:19:31,628 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of film eventually to see what 398 00:19:31,668 --> 00:19:34,708 Speaker 1: the kryptonite is for a young quarterback. The Bears found 399 00:19:34,748 --> 00:19:36,868 Speaker 1: and part of what they found was getting their hands 400 00:19:36,908 --> 00:19:39,508 Speaker 1: up and batting the ball. That was a real problem 401 00:19:39,508 --> 00:19:42,268 Speaker 1: because Zappi is not a big guy, so getting in 402 00:19:42,268 --> 00:19:44,828 Speaker 1: those vision lanes was a problem. So the Patriots will 403 00:19:44,828 --> 00:19:47,308 Speaker 1: now have to be the spy versus spy, fighting the 404 00:19:47,348 --> 00:19:50,548 Speaker 1: counter to what they can do. I like it. Yeah, 405 00:19:50,548 --> 00:19:52,308 Speaker 1: we'll see if they're able to figure it out. But 406 00:19:52,748 --> 00:19:54,988 Speaker 1: down in San Francisco to forty nine, ers made a 407 00:19:55,068 --> 00:19:58,388 Speaker 1: big trade, given up four draft picks for Christian McCaffrey 408 00:19:58,508 --> 00:20:00,748 Speaker 1: as a player. We look at these trays. You welcome 409 00:20:00,788 --> 00:20:03,188 Speaker 1: new players, you're excite it. But for you on that 410 00:20:03,308 --> 00:20:05,948 Speaker 1: manager side or draft picks, do you think the forty 411 00:20:06,028 --> 00:20:08,708 Speaker 1: nine is looked down McCaffrey as the player that could 412 00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:11,828 Speaker 1: give them the edge to win the division. Jason, I 413 00:20:11,868 --> 00:20:14,508 Speaker 1: think that they're seeing a division that's a little vulnerable 414 00:20:14,548 --> 00:20:16,588 Speaker 1: this year, and they know that they have a window 415 00:20:16,628 --> 00:20:19,788 Speaker 1: of opportunity right This is becoming a big thing in 416 00:20:19,828 --> 00:20:22,468 Speaker 1: the NFL netwhere teams see opportunity and they're trying to 417 00:20:22,548 --> 00:20:25,988 Speaker 1: jump through windows to make sure that they secure the 418 00:20:26,068 --> 00:20:27,988 Speaker 1: opportunity that might be in hand. And I think that's 419 00:20:27,988 --> 00:20:30,388 Speaker 1: in San Francisco Seas a couple of years ago, they 420 00:20:30,428 --> 00:20:33,268 Speaker 1: had this dominant defense that they weren't able to compliment 421 00:20:33,548 --> 00:20:37,188 Speaker 1: with a terrific offense. Getting Christian McCaffrey and using him 422 00:20:37,188 --> 00:20:41,228 Speaker 1: the right way again to compliment Deebo Samuel gives them 423 00:20:41,268 --> 00:20:44,508 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get ahead in the divisions right now. 424 00:20:44,788 --> 00:20:48,588 Speaker 1: That division is pretty vulnerable, and I feel like they 425 00:20:48,628 --> 00:20:52,108 Speaker 1: are trying to prey upon the weaknesses around the division 426 00:20:52,188 --> 00:20:54,548 Speaker 1: right now to get themselves to the playoffs, to get 427 00:20:54,588 --> 00:20:57,028 Speaker 1: themselves in the termine and then maybe make a run 428 00:20:57,108 --> 00:20:59,748 Speaker 1: like some teams have done recently, by giving the draft 429 00:20:59,788 --> 00:21:03,708 Speaker 1: picks to move with a player that they know what 430 00:21:03,788 --> 00:21:08,868 Speaker 1: they are right now. And meanwhile, Christian McCaffrey leaves the 431 00:21:08,908 --> 00:21:11,068 Speaker 1: Panthers and ten minutes later they have their most impressive 432 00:21:11,108 --> 00:21:13,348 Speaker 1: win of this entire era. It was a really crazy 433 00:21:13,388 --> 00:21:16,228 Speaker 1: Sunday and that whole scenario. Last week, Scott, you told 434 00:21:16,268 --> 00:21:18,948 Speaker 1: us a lot about how an organization motivates players when 435 00:21:18,988 --> 00:21:21,148 Speaker 1: it appears they've already begun to look ahead to the 436 00:21:21,188 --> 00:21:23,068 Speaker 1: next season, and the challenge behind that. You gave all 437 00:21:23,108 --> 00:21:25,748 Speaker 1: the reasons players to still be motivated regardless of what's 438 00:21:25,748 --> 00:21:28,668 Speaker 1: going on the record column. That being said, it's very 439 00:21:28,668 --> 00:21:32,148 Speaker 1: difficult to execute. Were you surprised you had to have 440 00:21:32,148 --> 00:21:34,308 Speaker 1: been right about the Panthers went over the Bucks on Sunday. 441 00:21:35,828 --> 00:21:38,908 Speaker 1: I was surprised by the win. What I wasn't surprised 442 00:21:38,908 --> 00:21:40,748 Speaker 1: by was the way that they played and the way 443 00:21:40,788 --> 00:21:42,748 Speaker 1: that they came out. You know, there's this old saying 444 00:21:42,748 --> 00:21:44,988 Speaker 1: in the league, Kyle that you know, the guys on 445 00:21:44,988 --> 00:21:46,708 Speaker 1: the other side of the field, the coaches on the 446 00:21:46,708 --> 00:21:48,668 Speaker 1: other side of the field, they're getting paid to be 447 00:21:48,748 --> 00:21:51,548 Speaker 1: professionals too, And I think that's what happened. I think 448 00:21:51,588 --> 00:21:55,108 Speaker 1: sometimes players need to be reminded, don't feed into all 449 00:21:55,108 --> 00:21:57,868 Speaker 1: the negativity out there. Don't feed into the fact that 450 00:21:57,988 --> 00:22:00,428 Speaker 1: people think that you're not good. You're a pro player, 451 00:22:00,508 --> 00:22:02,108 Speaker 1: go out there and play. And I think that was 452 00:22:02,148 --> 00:22:05,228 Speaker 1: part of the motivation behind what happened with Carolina. They 453 00:22:05,268 --> 00:22:07,988 Speaker 1: do have some good players. They have some good players 454 00:22:07,988 --> 00:22:10,948 Speaker 1: that are good people. They came together and played really well. 455 00:22:10,948 --> 00:22:13,468 Speaker 1: It reminds me, you know, back in twenty eleven when 456 00:22:13,468 --> 00:22:15,588 Speaker 1: I was with the Kansas City Chiefs. We were not 457 00:22:15,708 --> 00:22:18,308 Speaker 1: having a good season. We were having an average season, 458 00:22:18,468 --> 00:22:20,428 Speaker 1: but we were on the cusp of still being able 459 00:22:20,468 --> 00:22:22,868 Speaker 1: to win the division. And what happened was we left 460 00:22:22,868 --> 00:22:25,348 Speaker 1: go of our head coach in the With three games left, 461 00:22:25,628 --> 00:22:28,588 Speaker 1: we face off against the thirteen and oh Green Bay Packers. 462 00:22:28,828 --> 00:22:31,068 Speaker 1: We go and beat the Packers. Now we have to 463 00:22:31,068 --> 00:22:33,108 Speaker 1: win the last two games to win back to back 464 00:22:33,148 --> 00:22:36,988 Speaker 1: AFC West Division championships. And players know everything that's on 465 00:22:37,028 --> 00:22:38,708 Speaker 1: the line. I knew it was on the line. My 466 00:22:38,788 --> 00:22:42,268 Speaker 1: job was online. The coaches did. Everyone found within themselves 467 00:22:42,308 --> 00:22:45,868 Speaker 1: to give whatever their best version of themselves was. And 468 00:22:45,908 --> 00:22:48,588 Speaker 1: I think those the Panthers did. Kudos to the Panthers 469 00:22:48,708 --> 00:22:51,988 Speaker 1: because the reality is they lost their coach, but they're 470 00:22:52,028 --> 00:22:54,468 Speaker 1: still in the mix for the NFC South championships, so 471 00:22:54,628 --> 00:22:59,068 Speaker 1: they played their butts off and kudos to them. Kudos 472 00:22:59,108 --> 00:23:01,628 Speaker 1: to them. And let's quo Daniel Jones. Let's say kudos 473 00:23:01,628 --> 00:23:04,388 Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones. When the Giants didn't extend Daniel Jones 474 00:23:04,428 --> 00:23:07,228 Speaker 1: this off season. Many thought it was a foregone conclusion 475 00:23:07,268 --> 00:23:10,148 Speaker 1: that the team would be looking elsewhere for a quarterback 476 00:23:10,148 --> 00:23:12,068 Speaker 1: in the spring. Now the Giants are six and one, 477 00:23:12,348 --> 00:23:15,108 Speaker 1: they are looking like a playoff team. Is Daniel Jones 478 00:23:15,148 --> 00:23:17,508 Speaker 1: playing himself into a long term deal with the New 479 00:23:17,548 --> 00:23:20,468 Speaker 1: York Giants? I think there's a great chance that he is. Jamie, 480 00:23:20,548 --> 00:23:22,428 Speaker 1: you know, you look at this. The Giants made a 481 00:23:22,468 --> 00:23:24,788 Speaker 1: business decision that was the right decision at the time 482 00:23:25,108 --> 00:23:27,548 Speaker 1: based on the fact that they had. Now what Daniel 483 00:23:27,588 --> 00:23:29,828 Speaker 1: Jones is showing, not only that he's playing well, but 484 00:23:29,948 --> 00:23:32,748 Speaker 1: he's developing well under Brian Dayball and that's his area 485 00:23:32,788 --> 00:23:35,308 Speaker 1: of expertise. So to me, the Giants are going to 486 00:23:35,388 --> 00:23:38,308 Speaker 1: have the ability to retain him and do things to 487 00:23:38,388 --> 00:23:41,068 Speaker 1: negotiate this contract. Daniel Jones is a smart guy. He's 488 00:23:41,148 --> 00:23:43,748 Speaker 1: mature guy. He knows that he's in a circumstance, in 489 00:23:43,788 --> 00:23:46,148 Speaker 1: a situation right now where he's got a coach that 490 00:23:46,268 --> 00:23:50,068 Speaker 1: knows him, trusts him, and can accentuate his positives and 491 00:23:50,268 --> 00:23:52,828 Speaker 1: limit his limitations. This may be, at the end of 492 00:23:52,828 --> 00:23:55,828 Speaker 1: the year, a great marriage which both sides are smart 493 00:23:55,868 --> 00:24:12,548 Speaker 1: and fair. With one another, and Jackson ballots a couple 494 00:24:12,588 --> 00:24:21,308 Speaker 1: of jacko and just deep holding along the back to 495 00:24:21,428 --> 00:24:23,428 Speaker 1: the eat. A quick pitch goes to bow trying to 496 00:24:23,428 --> 00:24:25,868 Speaker 1: get around the left side. There's too much for humanity there. 497 00:24:25,868 --> 00:24:27,468 Speaker 1: He re worse just coming back from the ride. Got 498 00:24:27,548 --> 00:24:37,428 Speaker 1: a great comeback block. Holy Toledo, who knows and our 499 00:24:37,508 --> 00:24:39,588 Speaker 1: next guest is the best selling author who knows a 500 00:24:39,588 --> 00:24:41,068 Speaker 1: little thing or two about writing some of the best 501 00:24:41,068 --> 00:24:44,068 Speaker 1: sports books the last thirty years, and he's got one 502 00:24:44,108 --> 00:24:46,148 Speaker 1: of the greatest athletes of all time in his latest. 503 00:24:46,188 --> 00:24:49,108 Speaker 1: This book is titled The Last Folk Hero. It's the 504 00:24:49,188 --> 00:24:51,868 Speaker 1: life and myth of Bo Jackson, and this guy might 505 00:24:51,908 --> 00:24:54,268 Speaker 1: be the best sports writing scribe we have when it 506 00:24:54,308 --> 00:24:57,628 Speaker 1: comes to deep dives on professional athletes and teams. Ladies, gentlemen, 507 00:24:57,708 --> 00:25:02,748 Speaker 1: let's welcome back Jeff Pearl. Look at the shirt, Jeff. 508 00:25:02,748 --> 00:25:05,388 Speaker 1: Come on, you told me to wear the shirt, Jeff. Jeff, 509 00:25:05,508 --> 00:25:08,068 Speaker 1: knowing our show and knowing us, Jeff text me, should 510 00:25:08,068 --> 00:25:09,948 Speaker 1: I wear a tech mo bowl shot? Yeah, of course 511 00:25:09,948 --> 00:25:11,548 Speaker 1: you should wear And now we all want it. You 512 00:25:11,548 --> 00:25:15,468 Speaker 1: look like Jeff. There's an excitement and awe anytime anyone 513 00:25:15,508 --> 00:25:18,468 Speaker 1: even mentions the word Bo Jackson. You have spent months 514 00:25:18,468 --> 00:25:21,628 Speaker 1: of your life deep diving on bow Uh just take it. 515 00:25:21,748 --> 00:25:24,268 Speaker 1: Why Bo Jackson? For you personally, why did you want 516 00:25:24,268 --> 00:25:25,588 Speaker 1: to get into this story and why was this her 517 00:25:25,668 --> 00:25:27,508 Speaker 1: next big project? I mean I grew up with him 518 00:25:27,548 --> 00:25:29,468 Speaker 1: on my wall, like I literally you guys know the 519 00:25:29,468 --> 00:25:31,228 Speaker 1: post for the one like this with the bat and 520 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:33,268 Speaker 1: the shoulder pads and then the one with the different 521 00:25:33,308 --> 00:25:37,068 Speaker 1: bow character Turs. And I just I was a huge, huge, 522 00:25:37,148 --> 00:25:39,908 Speaker 1: huge bow Jackson fan, and he just the idea that 523 00:25:39,948 --> 00:25:42,508 Speaker 1: someone would play professional baby. I mean, like, you're playing 524 00:25:42,508 --> 00:25:44,548 Speaker 1: the NFL, right, it's really hard. And then you know 525 00:25:44,548 --> 00:25:46,028 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do my off season. I'm gonna or 526 00:25:46,028 --> 00:25:47,828 Speaker 1: it'sunds off season. I'm gonna play NFL in my off 527 00:25:47,868 --> 00:25:51,308 Speaker 1: season and play Major League Baseball's like, it's rights insane, right, 528 00:25:51,308 --> 00:25:53,788 Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. And being an All Star, I mean 529 00:25:53,788 --> 00:25:57,188 Speaker 1: it's it's both in both, but it's crazy, no doubt 530 00:25:57,188 --> 00:25:58,948 Speaker 1: about it. And you said you loved him. You've tweeted 531 00:25:58,948 --> 00:26:01,908 Speaker 1: out to top ten bow Jackson MoMA's number one being 532 00:26:01,988 --> 00:26:04,708 Speaker 1: in ninety one yard run in Seattle, the King don't 533 00:26:05,348 --> 00:26:07,348 Speaker 1: let's take a look and see. And then I want 534 00:26:07,388 --> 00:26:09,948 Speaker 1: you to describe why this one is your favorite moment. 535 00:26:10,108 --> 00:26:12,028 Speaker 1: Let's let's see this one right here. Let's get us 536 00:26:12,068 --> 00:26:17,468 Speaker 1: get it up and gone and bow jackin to the 537 00:26:17,628 --> 00:26:21,708 Speaker 1: twenty and out in front and only one man easily 538 00:26:22,188 --> 00:26:24,988 Speaker 1: can't run him down. He had the angle. But then 539 00:26:25,108 --> 00:26:29,988 Speaker 1: goes bow and nobody captures bow. Touchdown. He may not 540 00:26:30,068 --> 00:26:34,948 Speaker 1: stop yet. Tacoma, he's gone, Portland. He just went and 541 00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:40,228 Speaker 1: there go the raiders into flying. Come on back, guys, 542 00:26:40,308 --> 00:26:45,268 Speaker 1: Oh he was flying. Now what did you like most 543 00:26:45,268 --> 00:26:47,508 Speaker 1: about this run? And then you've interviewed you talk to 544 00:26:47,548 --> 00:26:50,108 Speaker 1: so many people, how do they describe this play? Okay? 545 00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:52,308 Speaker 1: So the a couple of crazy things. Number one. Seven 546 00:26:52,308 --> 00:26:54,508 Speaker 1: different guys had angles on bow and the last guy 547 00:26:54,548 --> 00:26:56,508 Speaker 1: you saw it was Kenny. Easily. You can make a 548 00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:59,548 Speaker 1: case the greatest safe to do that Generations Famer. If 549 00:26:59,588 --> 00:27:02,468 Speaker 1: you look, he had a clear angle gone. Bobsworth had 550 00:27:02,508 --> 00:27:05,908 Speaker 1: the side angle. God just gone gone gone. The other 551 00:27:05,948 --> 00:27:07,628 Speaker 1: guy in the in the screen is a mob Brown 552 00:27:07,668 --> 00:27:13,428 Speaker 1: who is a sprinter in college. Like nothing. I interviewed 553 00:27:13,508 --> 00:27:16,908 Speaker 1: the Dave Craig was a quarterback for the Seahawks, and 554 00:27:17,028 --> 00:27:20,348 Speaker 1: he told me he heard Bow run by from the 555 00:27:20,388 --> 00:27:21,788 Speaker 1: song but it wasn't like he heard his feet. He 556 00:27:21,868 --> 00:27:25,588 Speaker 1: just hears wow. And one of the coaches told me 557 00:27:25,628 --> 00:27:28,588 Speaker 1: that our offensive coordinator had he swears as a true 558 00:27:28,628 --> 00:27:30,668 Speaker 1: he said he had his notes with him. Bo ran 559 00:27:30,748 --> 00:27:33,708 Speaker 1: by and the note twin like that. So and the 560 00:27:33,748 --> 00:27:35,388 Speaker 1: crazy thing they don't show on the replay there that 561 00:27:35,428 --> 00:27:38,108 Speaker 1: he does if you look closely, when he comes out 562 00:27:38,148 --> 00:27:40,308 Speaker 1: of the tunnel, he throws up a ten baseball in 563 00:27:40,348 --> 00:27:42,188 Speaker 1: the air and goes like this. You really have to 564 00:27:42,188 --> 00:27:44,868 Speaker 1: look closely, but he does that. Yeah. See, that's the 565 00:27:44,908 --> 00:27:47,108 Speaker 1: stuff that we've seen that in play a thousand times. 566 00:27:47,108 --> 00:27:49,188 Speaker 1: And I don't know about the fungo moment. And that's 567 00:27:49,228 --> 00:27:51,588 Speaker 1: where the book comes in. There's so many things. Even 568 00:27:51,588 --> 00:27:54,068 Speaker 1: if you think you know the bow stuff, you don't 569 00:27:54,148 --> 00:27:57,468 Speaker 1: know Bow ironically, like it talks about how he saves 570 00:27:57,508 --> 00:28:00,028 Speaker 1: his team allegedly in a plane crash, like he stops 571 00:28:00,028 --> 00:28:02,348 Speaker 1: the plane from crash. He ran a four, one, three forty. 572 00:28:02,348 --> 00:28:04,908 Speaker 1: It's just page after page of that. Jeff, we need 573 00:28:04,948 --> 00:28:07,628 Speaker 1: to talk to though about the nineteen eighty nine NFL draft, 574 00:28:08,148 --> 00:28:11,868 Speaker 1: which is maybe the most spectacular ever. Top five picks 575 00:28:12,188 --> 00:28:17,068 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, Barry Sanders, Dion Sanders in the book. You 576 00:28:17,108 --> 00:28:20,668 Speaker 1: say Al Davis was gonna trade bow Jackson after the 577 00:28:20,708 --> 00:28:22,468 Speaker 1: eighty nine draft from one of those top five picks. 578 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,028 Speaker 1: Tell us a story and who wasn't. So this was 579 00:28:24,068 --> 00:28:27,868 Speaker 1: Tony Mandrich. Yeah, I'd been picked by the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, 580 00:28:27,908 --> 00:28:30,348 Speaker 1: the incredible bullock the cover of VS. I he might 581 00:28:30,388 --> 00:28:34,068 Speaker 1: have been performance in a handsome I think, but I 582 00:28:34,068 --> 00:28:38,028 Speaker 1: believe it was. Yeah, and Al David Manders had said, 583 00:28:38,028 --> 00:28:39,708 Speaker 1: I'm not going to signon Green Bay. I don't remember this. 584 00:28:39,708 --> 00:28:43,468 Speaker 1: He was threatening to fight Mike Tyson, fight Mike Tyson, 585 00:28:44,068 --> 00:28:45,708 Speaker 1: and he was holding out. I never want to go 586 00:28:45,748 --> 00:28:48,828 Speaker 1: to Green Bay. And now Davis loved renegades, he loved 587 00:28:48,828 --> 00:28:52,748 Speaker 1: big guys. And the weird thing about Al Davis he 588 00:28:52,748 --> 00:28:57,828 Speaker 1: he hated anyone having the spotlight but him, like his 589 00:28:57,948 --> 00:29:01,028 Speaker 1: resembment toward Marcus Allen was very real, and he hated 590 00:29:01,108 --> 00:29:03,308 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen getting the spot and he started to get 591 00:29:03,348 --> 00:29:06,508 Speaker 1: real prickly about bo Jackson given the spotlight. Owner. Yeah, 592 00:29:06,588 --> 00:29:08,748 Speaker 1: the owner, and one of his coaches said to me, 593 00:29:08,748 --> 00:29:11,028 Speaker 1: you said, if you think about it, almost every team 594 00:29:11,068 --> 00:29:13,548 Speaker 1: has a marquee player who you immediately think about, and 595 00:29:13,588 --> 00:29:15,028 Speaker 1: when you think of the Raiders. You think of the 596 00:29:15,028 --> 00:29:17,108 Speaker 1: Patch and you think about Davis. Maybe you think of 597 00:29:17,148 --> 00:29:19,948 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen. Maybe I don't think so you disagree. I No, 598 00:29:19,988 --> 00:29:22,468 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't think about yeah. So 599 00:29:22,548 --> 00:29:26,748 Speaker 1: he um. He called the packers and he offered bo 600 00:29:26,908 --> 00:29:29,748 Speaker 1: Jackson for the rights to Tony Manders, and the packers 601 00:29:29,788 --> 00:29:34,988 Speaker 1: said no because Tony Manders was a generational offensive linement. Wow, gosh, 602 00:29:35,508 --> 00:29:44,508 Speaker 1: it's a packer was almost Yeah, young bo Jackson backfield, 603 00:29:44,668 --> 00:29:47,468 Speaker 1: That's so cool, So many great stories in here. Um. 604 00:29:47,548 --> 00:29:49,988 Speaker 1: I just I flipped open the book and UM, I 605 00:29:50,028 --> 00:29:51,748 Speaker 1: asked you if you went to Auburn a lot and 606 00:29:51,908 --> 00:29:54,388 Speaker 1: literally a chapter twenty nine you talk about how you 607 00:29:54,388 --> 00:29:58,028 Speaker 1: interviewed twenty five college students just in this one chapter 608 00:29:58,268 --> 00:30:01,108 Speaker 1: to talk about bo Jackson. You interviewed over seven hundred 609 00:30:01,108 --> 00:30:04,868 Speaker 1: people for this book. Bo Jackson, though, was not one 610 00:30:04,868 --> 00:30:07,868 Speaker 1: of them. He declined to participate. Tell us about the 611 00:30:07,868 --> 00:30:10,548 Speaker 1: process trying to interview Bow for this piece of work. 612 00:30:10,548 --> 00:30:12,348 Speaker 1: All right, So, whenever I write a book, one of 613 00:30:12,388 --> 00:30:14,708 Speaker 1: the first things I do is I send a couple 614 00:30:14,748 --> 00:30:16,948 Speaker 1: of my books and a letter explaining what I'm doing. 615 00:30:16,988 --> 00:30:18,908 Speaker 1: And I sent it. And this is during the pandemic 616 00:30:18,908 --> 00:30:22,268 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and I'm home and phone rings and it's 617 00:30:22,308 --> 00:30:24,908 Speaker 1: an unidentified number, block number, and I answer and it's like, 618 00:30:25,148 --> 00:30:26,988 Speaker 1: mister Jeff Perlman, and I agree, Yes, he goes, this 619 00:30:27,068 --> 00:30:29,948 Speaker 1: is bo Jackson, and I knew the voice immediately. I 620 00:30:30,068 --> 00:30:32,108 Speaker 1: probably talked for a half hour, and he was driving. 621 00:30:32,108 --> 00:30:33,628 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm driving to get my wife at Chop 622 00:30:33,668 --> 00:30:35,668 Speaker 1: Salad and I decided to give you a call. And 623 00:30:35,708 --> 00:30:38,388 Speaker 1: he's like, I don't have a problem with you writing 624 00:30:38,428 --> 00:30:40,308 Speaker 1: a book, because I just don't want to be a 625 00:30:40,308 --> 00:30:42,428 Speaker 1: part of it. People approached me all the time, blah 626 00:30:42,428 --> 00:30:46,148 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. So I got really lucky. Bo 627 00:30:46,268 --> 00:30:51,468 Speaker 1: Jackson wrote an autobiography in nineteen ninety knows of course, Yeah, 628 00:30:51,588 --> 00:30:53,348 Speaker 1: of course. Dick Shapp one of the great journalists of 629 00:30:53,388 --> 00:30:56,788 Speaker 1: all time. And before Dick Chap died, he donated all 630 00:30:56,908 --> 00:31:00,588 Speaker 1: his transcripts, every interview, every audio tape to the Auburn Library. 631 00:31:01,068 --> 00:31:03,428 Speaker 1: So someone at Auburn told me about this, and I 632 00:31:03,428 --> 00:31:04,908 Speaker 1: called Auburn and they sent me I think I'd be 633 00:31:04,908 --> 00:31:07,788 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty bucks and they sent me probably 634 00:31:08,028 --> 00:31:11,268 Speaker 1: seven hundred pages of files, all the interviews, most of 635 00:31:11,268 --> 00:31:13,708 Speaker 1: it was never used in the book, so in a 636 00:31:13,708 --> 00:31:15,548 Speaker 1: lot of ways, honestly, it was like talking to twenty 637 00:31:15,588 --> 00:31:17,868 Speaker 1: eight year old Bow Jackson. It was crazy. It's one 638 00:31:17,868 --> 00:31:20,108 Speaker 1: of the great finds of my journalism career. Yeah, if 639 00:31:20,148 --> 00:31:23,988 Speaker 1: you know, Jeff, that is a treasure. That's like a 640 00:31:24,028 --> 00:31:25,708 Speaker 1: kid at the dentist office, like, oh my gosh, I 641 00:31:25,748 --> 00:31:28,108 Speaker 1: get to pick the private It's incredible, and the book 642 00:31:28,148 --> 00:31:30,588 Speaker 1: reflects it. I look not to brag. I've read the 643 00:31:30,588 --> 00:31:33,068 Speaker 1: whole book. Jeff sent me a copy and it's unbelievable 644 00:31:33,068 --> 00:31:35,308 Speaker 1: because I had Bow on my wall too, and there's 645 00:31:35,388 --> 00:31:37,588 Speaker 1: probably three hundred pages of things I didn't know in here. 646 00:31:38,148 --> 00:31:40,988 Speaker 1: Part of the theme of this is that he transcended athlete. 647 00:31:40,988 --> 00:31:43,828 Speaker 1: He even transcended superstar athlete. All the mythical stuff, the 648 00:31:43,828 --> 00:31:46,388 Speaker 1: Paul Bunyan stuff, and then the Bow knows and everything 649 00:31:46,388 --> 00:31:48,988 Speaker 1: we came to know of Boat in twenty twenty two. 650 00:31:49,308 --> 00:31:52,028 Speaker 1: Is there anything or anybody out there that he even 651 00:31:52,068 --> 00:31:55,908 Speaker 1: begins to approach what Bow Jackson represented. I'd say there 652 00:31:55,908 --> 00:31:57,548 Speaker 1: are two people who are kind of in the frame, 653 00:31:57,708 --> 00:32:01,468 Speaker 1: Shootani to a certain degree, pitching and hitting a basics, 654 00:32:01,908 --> 00:32:03,668 Speaker 1: and then I always forget his name, but the kid 655 00:32:04,388 --> 00:32:08,348 Speaker 1: askewaf phenom who's French, who's like seven two, and everyone's like, 656 00:32:08,388 --> 00:32:14,988 Speaker 1: he's no, he's gonna be the first guy in the draft. 657 00:32:15,068 --> 00:32:18,108 Speaker 1: And he jumped over that set of seats the camp. 658 00:32:18,628 --> 00:32:20,708 Speaker 1: And if you think about it, like even right now 659 00:32:20,748 --> 00:32:22,628 Speaker 1: at this table, we're all like, oh, yeah, this guy 660 00:32:22,948 --> 00:32:25,388 Speaker 1: he did and he jumped over seats. Is he be honest? No, 661 00:32:25,468 --> 00:32:27,428 Speaker 1: it's not be honest. It's this other guy. And that's 662 00:32:27,428 --> 00:32:29,548 Speaker 1: really rare in this era that we're like, yeah, it's 663 00:32:29,548 --> 00:32:32,508 Speaker 1: this guy about him and nobody has a mistique anymore. 664 00:32:32,588 --> 00:32:34,748 Speaker 1: That's the thing. There is no mistique anymore. Someone comes along, 665 00:32:35,148 --> 00:32:37,068 Speaker 1: I see a kid in high school on social media. 666 00:32:37,188 --> 00:32:39,508 Speaker 1: Bo Jackson, we didn't see any of it, you know. 667 00:32:40,108 --> 00:32:44,068 Speaker 1: Or Yeah, this guy right here, he wrote the book 668 00:32:44,108 --> 00:32:46,108 Speaker 1: that the show Winning Time is based on. If you 669 00:32:46,188 --> 00:32:49,148 Speaker 1: watch on HBO. He's written amazing books on Walter Payton. 670 00:32:49,228 --> 00:32:52,148 Speaker 1: He's written amazing books on the Shaq, Kobe Lakers, and 671 00:32:52,228 --> 00:32:55,228 Speaker 1: so much more. Guys, I cannot recommend an author more 672 00:32:55,228 --> 00:32:57,348 Speaker 1: to this guy right here, Jeff Perlman. If you love 673 00:32:57,388 --> 00:32:59,668 Speaker 1: Bo Jackson or if you don't, this is the book 674 00:32:59,668 --> 00:33:01,468 Speaker 1: that you want to read. The mystique is real. Jeff, 675 00:33:01,508 --> 00:33:03,028 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us at the Good Morning Football Take. 676 00:33:03,268 --> 00:33:03,548 Speaker 1: Thank you