WEBVTT - Draft Show: 2018 NFL Combine Preview

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are war Room for in center, news and draft analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in for School, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliot and now

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<v Speaker 1>your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning from everybody here at the draft show. We're

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<v Speaker 1>here at the SWBC Mortgage Studios. Brian brought us Dan Brugler,

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<v Speaker 1>David Hellman, Kitt Garrison, Executive Producing. Uh, it is uh

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<v Speaker 1>combine e for us. Will you leave tonight? Yep. I

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<v Speaker 1>fled India tonight and David and myself why didn't we

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<v Speaker 1>do that? I don't know, because now we gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>up at four thirty in the morning to catch its

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<v Speaker 1>flock flight. It's okay. You like that though, like I

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<v Speaker 1>do the old man and you I do. You dig

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<v Speaker 1>getting up as early as humanly possible. I do. I enjoy,

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<v Speaker 1>like to enjoy trying to see you'll make it to

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<v Speaker 1>the airport on time. Oh, I'll be there to test

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<v Speaker 1>with bells on. It's a test, David. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of be ready to roll. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been the first one there the last two years or

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<v Speaker 1>was it last year where I think I kind of you,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you and kids? Ye, Ken squeaked on Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yet seconds before I think Ki had a strange look

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<v Speaker 1>on his face when he was the last one honest

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<v Speaker 1>at the door behind. When you get there two hours

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<v Speaker 1>early and still don't make it, yeah, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>security line. I wasn't need to figure out the shorter

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<v Speaker 1>security line. I get there four hours early. We've we've

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<v Speaker 1>still haven't done our tsa pre check. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>go a little further up. Don't always go to the

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<v Speaker 1>one school further all right, we'll figure it out. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be there, I know you will. We'll be there looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to that. It is, like I said, a combine week.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do want to get into some combine. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>some dudes, some don't, some good, some bad. Some help

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<v Speaker 1>me Dane Brugler, Yeah, this is the big combine preview.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to set the stage so you know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for with respect, and let's just get right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think most people know what the combine is,

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<v Speaker 1>but really you can when you think about a break

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<v Speaker 1>up in the four different categories. You have your medicals,

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<v Speaker 1>which are the most important by far. That's why the

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<v Speaker 1>combine was created back in the eighties. It was so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these prospects wouldn't have to go city to city, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting looked at by a doctor here, doctor there,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr here. I did just do it one central location,

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<v Speaker 1>It's true and India. A big reason they do it

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<v Speaker 1>in India is because of the amount of medical equipment

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<v Speaker 1>within a you know, a mile radius, so it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one of the great cities ever. The combine

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<v Speaker 1>was invented. Indie was invented for this combine. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Indie is a is a great town to begin with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the way that they're the way the hotel situation,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's convention center, yes, the walking ability, the hotels,

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<v Speaker 1>the hospitals, the workout facility, everything that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a massive amount of people to one central location

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<v Speaker 1>and make it work as smoothly as they do. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis is a perfect city even in the winter and

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<v Speaker 1>there exactly. And not to mention, they've been doing it

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<v Speaker 1>there so long they've almost got it down to a science.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's one of the few cities in this

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<v Speaker 1>country that you can drop me in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll find any ef I know where everything is.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been going there since ninety two. Find your way

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<v Speaker 1>to the webber grew I know exactly. Saturday night, eight pm.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you're canned chicken. You're canned chicken. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they have at this time. I will be

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<v Speaker 1>really the pretzel rules. I'm gonna eat so many pretzel rules.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, but no, but the central the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>the medical right, that's first and foremost, what's most important.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why the combines created, and that's that's what matters

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<v Speaker 1>the most. Number Two, the interviews. Yeah, a chance for coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>general managers, scouts to go in one of these guys. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is for a lot of these players the

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<v Speaker 1>first impression the scouts have been on the road. But

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<v Speaker 1>for general managers, head coaches, especially with these juniors, guys

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<v Speaker 1>that weren't at the Senior Bowl, guys weren't at during

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the All Star circuit. Chance to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>with them, we watch tape together. You know, Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what kind of technique us in here? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>name of this play? Run them through the tape, run

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<v Speaker 1>them through you know, whiteboard, different things like that, find

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<v Speaker 1>out more about who they are as a person, their personality.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really a chance to make a great first impression

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<v Speaker 1>with the head decision makers of each team. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the third would be the sexy part of

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<v Speaker 1>the event, which is the forty yard dash, the agility drills,

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<v Speaker 1>the positional drills, what we see on the field, A

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<v Speaker 1>chance for the players to put quantitative data next to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the you know, the tape tape, what scouts

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<v Speaker 1>have been looking at for the last eight nine months.

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<v Speaker 1>A chance to put numbers to that, to compare and

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<v Speaker 1>contrast these guys, which you know we can overrate at times,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the end of the day, it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>way to kind of cross check what you see on tape,

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<v Speaker 1>A chance to okay, well, this guy ran four five five,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was more of a four four or

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<v Speaker 1>five bright athlete speed in the forty yard dash, so

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to kind of cross check yourself. And then

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<v Speaker 1>of course, fourth would be the measurements. Chance to get

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<v Speaker 1>exact height, weight, length, hand size, wingspan, everything else. All

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<v Speaker 1>the measurements on these players, especially the juniors. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the seniors we have numbers from either from the

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<v Speaker 1>spring right and then y'all Star circuit, but then also

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<v Speaker 1>with the underclassman guys that we don't have exact measurements

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<v Speaker 1>on a chance to do with the combine. So brief

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<v Speaker 1>four categories, and we'll start by kind of going through

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<v Speaker 1>each category and who are important names to watching. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me add a fifth category and I'll let you

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<v Speaker 1>comment it real quick. I want to get back, but

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<v Speaker 1>let me add the fifth category. The element that we're

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the media side of it, which become

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<v Speaker 1>a firestorm. Yes, yeah, you know, I mean you get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you get some guys that you get some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these players, they bring them through, they put

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<v Speaker 1>them at the pod. There's been there's been times where

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<v Speaker 1>I remember with golf, the quarterback, the rams and how

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<v Speaker 1>the small hand size. As questions came from the media,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot of back and forth. There a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions about medical I remember Jalen Smith, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions about his knee what and he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to answer that. They just kept firing questions

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<v Speaker 1>at him, you know. And so there's that fit. There's

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<v Speaker 1>that fifth element that's really not club level, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is part of what the players have to go through now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it yeah, I mean it can it does. It

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<v Speaker 1>can give you some some fun insight into these guys

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<v Speaker 1>and like what their makeup is and how well they

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<v Speaker 1>handle that some, I mean so many of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>If you play at even a moderately large college program,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you should be used to that by now.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, like I mean, Jared Goff was like mad,

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<v Speaker 1>he was mad. Yeah, it's fun and I've uh in

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<v Speaker 1>a weird I was so impressed rested by Joey Bosa

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<v Speaker 1>when he went through all that, which like he was

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<v Speaker 1>goofy and like he didn't have like that polot, like

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<v Speaker 1>that professional polish, but like he just handled it with

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<v Speaker 1>like this goofy ease. That was just really impressive. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of just you know, dirt off his shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>He seemed like he just walked off a beach somewhere surfing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, just that's the meaner his his tones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with it, but it is fascinating because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they go through a lot of media training and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, but during interviews with teams, they need to

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<v Speaker 1>be open as as as possible as I can. But

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<v Speaker 1>with the media, you had to be even just a

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<v Speaker 1>little guarded about what you say. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember it was it two years ago when with the

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<v Speaker 1>Old miss players with Laramy Tunsel outed one of the

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<v Speaker 1>other guys, yeah about oh man, Yeah, Kim dic all

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<v Speaker 1>his questions were about like jumping off of the balcony

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<v Speaker 1>all this other stuff. So you have to you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be open, but you want to you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little guardard as well. And it's just all

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<v Speaker 1>part of the media parts. So yeah, that's no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point to add it to the week

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<v Speaker 1>that these players have to you know, part of the

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<v Speaker 1>gauntlet they have to go through. I think another interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing for us, and it's not so much for the

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<v Speaker 1>players and stuff. What I enjoy the combine is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we bump into people that we know professionally

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<v Speaker 1>have friendships with. You know, you might go around the

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<v Speaker 1>corner and talk to somebody that you know you hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>seen in a while and get a you know, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking a lot of questions last year about

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon, you know, and we and we, you and I,

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<v Speaker 1>we all had our back and forth about Joe Mixon.

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<v Speaker 1>Where he would go and stuff. But the combine again

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<v Speaker 1>brings everybody together. They interview the coaches, the general manager,

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach, general managers, club presidents, people who get

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<v Speaker 1>up there who are responsible for their team, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of learn a little bit about that and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe when you get them off on the side. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested now that John Gruden's back in the mix, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gonna be interested in going and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him and kind of get his perspective on some

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<v Speaker 1>of these players. I mean, I know he's already dove

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<v Speaker 1>into a little bit of what they're gonna do and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, kind of get his idea. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing the great thing about the combine. It does

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<v Speaker 1>get everybody to get Okay, with all that being said, though,

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<v Speaker 1>go through and kind of give me an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>how you want to break this thing down. How how

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to how would you going in approach

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<v Speaker 1>and of all the categories, how would you do that? All? Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's and let's include your fifth category in the team interview.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's just part of it, right exactly, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about it. So let's do the four categories.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the medical and let's talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>few players that they need a good week and Indie

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<v Speaker 1>when I go through that, uh yeah, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>to do over three hundred MRIs they have to do

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<v Speaker 1>so it's quick and yeah. I remember last year with

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<v Speaker 1>Ruben Foster that was not good. A little bit quick enough,

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<v Speaker 1>not quick enough. Yeah, I mean it goes deep into

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<v Speaker 1>the night. It's a grueling process that really test your patients.

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<v Speaker 1>But a few guys that we need to I I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Josh Rosen to me, one of the first guys

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to mind, missed second half of last year

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<v Speaker 1>with the race shoulder injury. Uh he and then he

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<v Speaker 1>missed couple of games his past year with concussion. Durability wise,

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<v Speaker 1>and he worries long term with him. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of his evaluation along with I mean

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<v Speaker 1>when we talked about Josh Rosen here when we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the interview process as well. But for the quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Rosen one of the best in his class. Durability

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<v Speaker 1>a question mark. The running backs, you know, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>get beat up. They do. Nick Chubb. Chub had that

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury as a sophomore. Absolutely, what's going on there?

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<v Speaker 1>Is any long term effects. I mean we mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>any last show. JG I E. That was an issue

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<v Speaker 1>with him. He fell to the fifth round. Chubb the

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<v Speaker 1>second round talent. Could he slip a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>of any questions with the knee? Carrie on Johnson his

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder he got pulled up quite a bit. Sure, did

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Walton, a guy we both like. We do like

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Walton almost all the season with the Miamile by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm right, I'm sorry, Yeah, with the right

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<v Speaker 1>ankle injury. Anything worried about with the right ankle. So

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs, we know, those guys get beat up.

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<v Speaker 1>Something to watch there. Um, And it's it's quite a

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<v Speaker 1>crew too, you know, because everybody you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not it's there's a couple of the first round guys

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about. It's I'll be interested to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>some scouts general managers and kind of what order they

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<v Speaker 1>see these guys. Yeah, well you know, yeah past years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where exactly ranked with a zeke with the

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<v Speaker 1>right because see there's like you know, Ronald Jones from USC.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he's really second on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people's boards. I wonder if it's if guys that's Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all these names of guys, well, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the order, but depending on who you talk to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you got some people who have one first round running back,

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<v Speaker 1>oh sure. And then I mean I've I've heard as

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<v Speaker 1>many as like three or four first round grades on

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<v Speaker 1>running backs, spending on how you feel about guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Guys and Jones. But it goes back to the combined

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<v Speaker 1>in again. You know, the medical questions a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>some of these top guys have, Yeah, might keep people

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<v Speaker 1>away from maybe taking them a little bit earlier than

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<v Speaker 1>we might thinks. Being one of them, Yeah, he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got banged up with the knee in the or

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<v Speaker 1>was it fall camp, right, and I kind of plagued

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit his final year in an LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, absolutely, with these running backs and the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers. Anthony Miller, a player we've talked about from Memphis,

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis right, player we talked about maybe could be on

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys radar on Day two, had the foot issue

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<v Speaker 1>in the bowl game, his final game as a collegiate player.

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<v Speaker 1>Was out for the Senior Bowl. Everyone's kind of been

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<v Speaker 1>hush hush on the severity of the injury. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to affect him moving forward? We need to get

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<v Speaker 1>an update on Anthony Miller. That would be big for

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<v Speaker 1>his draft status. Yeah, I'll tell you what I got

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<v Speaker 1>him like as a second round guy right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>but then again, it's in that second round where we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the gallop from Colorado State, Uh, you know Washington,

0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.640
<v Speaker 1>James Washington from Oklahoma State. I mean, I'm no closer

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<v Speaker 1>right now to sorting those guys out. My I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have it. I think Miller's I think Miller's a

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a player. I think he's a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a player. But again, if it comes back when you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me my doctor's saying, well, Brian, hey, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be this is long term, this is gonna be you

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<v Speaker 1>know now now does he is he still? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>still in the mix with those guys kind And that

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to like what an event the combine has become.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the teams are going to get this information

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<v Speaker 1>and make decisions off it anyway, But like the media

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<v Speaker 1>and public perception is such a big part of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like ten years ago, nobody's nobody outside the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>front offices, is talking about Anthony Miller's injury. But now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like and and players have like strategies of like

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<v Speaker 1>how they address it, how much they're talking, no, say

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to get a question or two. Oh absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and like and you gotta be we should ask it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this happens every year there. I mean, you've

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<v Speaker 1>brought up Jalen Smith, Miles Jack As another guy was Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there was somebody last year too that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drawn or um John Ross was a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries in his history. He had a bad first

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<v Speaker 1>year or two he did. But it's just it's fascinating that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you've got those problems in your past,

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've got to have a strategy for how you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to approach it because it's such a visible event

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<v Speaker 1>now as opposed to ten fifteen years ago, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>some teams asking you about your injury history. It's way

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. And we're sitting in the Hoosier Dome

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<v Speaker 1>looking around thinking they'll never have this on TV. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a kidding me shows what you know exactly? I know

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<v Speaker 1>was what mid nineties, Yeah, I mean nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there thinking and I'm talking about who's your

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<v Speaker 1>dome or the RCA Dome. It was before there was

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<v Speaker 1>a Hoosier Dome when it started, then it went RCA

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<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, and then again there were like ten

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<v Speaker 1>twelve guys covering this thing. Now, now you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>Brian brought us getting mad at everybody in the convention center.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been with Goose Gosselin before when yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just furious that all these people encroached on his territory. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just yeah, we'll get into it. But yeah, ten

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<v Speaker 1>it used to just be still walk hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of scouts all week. I used to walk

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<v Speaker 1>out of the holiday in there where the players stayed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would walk with Goose for maybe four blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did that with everybody. He would find somebody

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd walk four blocks, walk back, walk four blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>walk back. But it was ten twelve guys covering the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. And then where it was word like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the media's outside. Well, now the media's outside across the

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<v Speaker 1>street in the convention center about three thousand deep. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. Okay, next category you want to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get into, well, a few more medical guys. Yeah, Harold Andrey, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he didn't have the senior year we expected

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<v Speaker 1>from Boston College. First run pass rusher. But what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with his ankle, the lower body? Anything to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about moving forward? H Kimoko Terray Terray, Oh, my guy

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<v Speaker 1>from Rutgers, from Rutgers who I really like him a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know? With that athletics and he just

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<v Speaker 1>looks good on tape physically looks good because he's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy that played basketball in high school, didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>football until his senior year, and he blew up as

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman. Then he had some shoulder issues sophomore junior year,

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<v Speaker 1>played well as a senior. But any long termission? Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Shepherd from Fort Hay State that hand broke the

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<v Speaker 1>hand a senior ball Senior Bowl. Good player there too. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely a few guys at linebacker. One of our favorites,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Sitchy, linebacker from Wisconsin, Huge Wisconsin. Yeah, hasn't played

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<v Speaker 1>since October of two, un sixteen. Yeah, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think about him? We watched him the other day. I

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<v Speaker 1>like him a lot. I liked him before we watched

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<v Speaker 1>Like we watched him together. But okay, but I like

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<v Speaker 1>him as a player, Like I mean, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I said this last week. I comparisons are

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous whatever. Like he reminds me of Borland, Like he's Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a smart that was my pet cat from several

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Concussion got him. He's a smart, physical player,

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<v Speaker 1>like he'd typical Wisconsin guy. Like he's not gonna wow

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<v Speaker 1>you with like this insane athleticism, but he's just always

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<v Speaker 1>in the right spot. Yeah, I hope the medical is

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<v Speaker 1>good on him. A few more. Linebacker shaun Dion Hamilton

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<v Speaker 1>from Alabama. Guy's really talented, but back to back years

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<v Speaker 1>he's had a season ending injuries to his right knee.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what's going on with that? Um? Dear clear? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>corner Gayer Alexander had his knee issue this year, missed

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<v Speaker 1>a good portion. Yeah, second round pick though in my

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<v Speaker 1>opinion there, I think he's a first rounder myself. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're both high and I'm Derwin James, a guy we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about at length. Uh, a guy we don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we'll make it to nineteen, but you never know. Missed

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<v Speaker 1>all of tens and sixteen or most of Jens sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>with was it the achilles so or no a miniscan miniscus? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so what is going on with the knee? And because

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<v Speaker 1>he showed rust this year? But was it more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mental and more conditioning or is there something you have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about with him? So there are plenty more

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<v Speaker 1>guys with medical issues, but those are just a few

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<v Speaker 1>of the top ones. Okay, well we'll do this. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a break, and my god, once again, twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>where'd it go? I wish it happened to be in

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<v Speaker 1>school like this flies? Does it flies? We'll take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to get into the Twitter on the twenty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can back it up, back it up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then I do want to get in that. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do a little more though, let's do can it come back?

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<v Speaker 1>Come back with a little bit of I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get some more of this combined discussion being it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be there tomorrow, are starting tomorrow, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come back. We'll hit the Twitter questions at the

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Dan, getting back into the into now, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to focus in on a little bit on the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect to the thing I think that you said

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<v Speaker 1>medical Now the interview, I orton give me some guys

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we always get that. We'll always get that

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<v Speaker 1>him or him or Gil Brandt, one of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>will throw out something hearing that interviews didn't go well

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<v Speaker 1>for Yeah, but fill in the blank. Plan to throw

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<v Speaker 1>us a nugget. Yeah, this is the lying season. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, try to try to swim through the lies

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<v Speaker 1>and figure out what's what's truth and talk to the

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<v Speaker 1>right guys. Yeah, I know who's lying to you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the that's the key, right. And so with these interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it's not similar to the medicals. It's based on

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<v Speaker 1>what we hear. You know, we're not in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna there's no coverage of that except for

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<v Speaker 1>when the players do talk to the media. But a

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<v Speaker 1>few players that need to impress in the interview portion

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<v Speaker 1>start with quarterbacks. Josh Rosen, a guy we mentioned with

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<v Speaker 1>the medical plenty of questions about his personality, is fit,

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<v Speaker 1>whether his arrogance will fit in an NFL locker room,

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.399
<v Speaker 1>is he coachable? You know, this is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>believes he's the smartest person in the room, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just not always gonna work. Yeah, in every situation, so

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>how he and you know, he should be himself, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, and he's a dial it back

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit when he's in these interviews with owners

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<v Speaker 1>or general managers or head coaches and come off a

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<v Speaker 1>little more humble, come off a little more coachable. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see if he's able to do that. I could

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<v Speaker 1>say he needs to be humble and sit down. Maybe

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you know who I think he is throwing the ball.

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I always say this, I think Matt Ryan. Yeah, he

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>kind OF's got that the way he's built, that kind

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of slim, you know, moving around the pocket a little bit,

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.880
<v Speaker 1>makes makes some incredible throws, and then he'll make he'll

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>just get sacked and you're like, oh what I think

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you see a little Matt Ryan. You see it Eli Man? Yeah,

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>two guys that went to the Super Bowl. Sureli won

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>two of himself. Sure guys that are I don't mean

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that in a slam. I mean I mean that is

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 1>because Matt Ryan, I think is a pretty damn was

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 1>it League MVP? Yeah? Absolutely, But I think when you

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 1>watch this guy throw the football, he's the guy and

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe has something to do with the I know Matt

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Ryan's two, this guy's three. It has something to do

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the narrow number, the narrow number on the body

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>and the way he kind of throws the ball. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. Do you think that? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that that general managers try and try and make

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<v Speaker 1>an abrasive conversation with him. See if you to see

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>if he'll come out and be absolutely you know, I would,

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I'd challenge him. You beat him, I would. I would

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.919
<v Speaker 1>challenge him. I'd see how much he really wants to

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>fight me. I get what you're saying, and he does

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>come across his arrogant but like I almost I want

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that in my quarterback to a degree. And that's that

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.120
<v Speaker 1>is the fine line that you have to figure out.

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 1>And this is where the general manager and scouts have

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<v Speaker 1>to put, you know, become a psychologist almost to figure

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>out what's going on. I have a plan to talk

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to him, I think, oh ye, absolutely, yeah, you have

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.199
<v Speaker 1>a little plan, like, hey, let's piss this guy off. Well,

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you see if we can do it. You

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of challenge him based on you know,

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 1>why don't you love football? You know that question stings

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.119
<v Speaker 1>right and kind of go into it with you know,

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>because he's an intellectual guy. He's a very he doesn't

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, he likes to think things through. He's a

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>problem solvere with his mind, so he'll challenge everything that

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you say. Yeah, let me let me give you an example.

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>If you've ever watched Gruden's football camp, quarterback camp. Yeah,

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>those are the kinds of questions that scouts and general

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.919
<v Speaker 1>managers ask these players, except on a different except at

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>different positions. And I'm sure and they're probably a little

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 1>more harsh. I mean, grudendals a back a little he

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>does a back a little bit. But but you get

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the idea of that kind of what were you thinking here? Yeah,

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, you try and see where the guy's demeanor

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>really is. Is he is? He does it bother him

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 1>when he gets criticized? Can he take You have an

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.719
<v Speaker 1>idea if a guy could take hard coaching or not,

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>what is he gonna throws her Eiver's under the bus? Yeah,

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna throw his left tack. You know, coach Moore

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>really didn't have a very good plan for us at UCLA, right,

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, you know, Jim Moore has

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of friends in the National Football League. He

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>needs to be a little careful about who he says

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that because I don't there's not gonna be any question

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>about his intelligence. No, I mean, I'm not worried about

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>his ability to you know, his recall. I'm not worried

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>about that, just more his his demeanor and how that's

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>going to play in the huddle. Are my veterans in

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the locker room gonna, you know, look to this guy.

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I say, Okay, this guy's a leader. That's the big

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>disconnect with with Rosen right now. So the combines are

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be huge for him. But stick with quarterback Mayfield. Mayfield,

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>there you go, guy that you know we saw the

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl, but he still has plenty more questions to answer,

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and he'll do it the combine. A couple of wide

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>receivers say something about Baker Mayfield. I think when it's

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>all said and done, he's gonna be the one guy.

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that might be a couple of it's maybe Griffin

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>from UCF that when they when they interview him with

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>teams in that's where we're gonna get the jil Brandt tweet, hum,

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody's falling in love with Baker may I was gonna

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>say everybody's falling. Hope. We don't mean that in a

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>bad way because I think, oh, that's what I'm saying,

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 1>it'll be. He will be the one guy that everybody

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the interview that exactly well, I wish

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I had a pick, I wish I could pick a quarterback,

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and that Baker Mayfield will be that guy. With what

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Dave was saying about you want your quarterback to be

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a little arrogant, Yeah, I think that's where Mayfield will

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 1>come off as arrogant, but in the competitive type of way,

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>right where Rosen doesn't always come off and you know,

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>he comes off arrogant like you know, I'm smarter than

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 1>you type of way, and so that that will be

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a key distinction for and if I'm smart, if I'm

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>a team, I'm doing their interviews, I'm doing all these

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.120
<v Speaker 1>quarterback interviews. I'm gonna trying to line them up back

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to back to back. Oh, no doubt, man, You've got

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a plan that is exactly what you do. Yeah, here,

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.679
<v Speaker 1>these guys want absolutely other You ask similar questions to

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>a few of them. Can I ask you a question,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>how would you think you handled interviewed for Lamar Jackson?

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you ask him about the Bill Polian stuff. Do

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you say, you know, ell yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>There's people that don't think you could play quarterback, right,

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>What do you say to that? What if I okay,

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 1>what if we bring you to our facility as a

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>workout and we asked you to run some routes? What

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>would your response be? There? You go, you know, are

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you open to it? Are you? I mean, because you're

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>baiting him to see if you'll say, Hey, I'm I'm

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>just gonna be a team player, do whatever I want

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to do or see whatever I can. But but but

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want him to say that. I want him

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>say him. Did you see what Daniel j Well, great point.

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Did you see Lamar's response to that? So Daniel Jeremiah

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>was like, if anybody sir, yeah, he was like, if

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>anybody says He's like he's talking to Lamar hypothetically. He's like,

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>if anybody asks you to play wide receiver, you say,

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to playing against you. And Lamar Jackson

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it was last night or maybe two days

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>ago quote tweeted him and was like hell, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly love that. Yeah, it's one thing for Denard

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Robinson when he's coming out of mission again for him

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to be open minded to or Pat White out of

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia open minded for playing another position for Lamar Jackson.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want to hear all right. You know,

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>if you really want me to, you know, work out

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>what receiver, I'll do it. No. I want him to

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>tell me it convinced me. I don't need convincing, but

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I want him to still convince me that he's a quarterback.

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the right mentality from the go

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>into interviews with Yeah, I agree with you on that. Okay,

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>some other guys, Uh, what if his quarterbacks are fascinating

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way to talk to What about the receiver?

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I know you really liked from Florida Antonio Kallaway Halloway, Yeah,

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you gave him a top three round grade. I have

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>him right now as I look at my board. Brian, Uh,

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>don't do that to me, David, I got him in

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the third round. Yeah. And this is a guy who

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>why do you always fall in love with like the

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>questionable guys the gun Runners? Yeah? Why, this guy's more

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to gun runner. He's he's actually got kicked off because

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>he stole. He didn't play at all last year. This

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>was this guy was in the middle of the credit

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>card credit card fraud. Yeah, and this and this was like,

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, this isn't strike one. This is like straight

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>four for him, which is why Brian loves him. It's like,

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>give me the bad give me the bad guy. Brian's

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>not wrong about his ability. He's just very unreliable. Brian's

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>never wrong about these ability well, and unfortunate about the

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>gun Runner guys, He's never wrong about their Sorry, Hey,

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>my apologies. I know it's very sensitive. I shouldn't say

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the word. I shouldn't use the word gun runner. I'm sorry.

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a it's a draft clear, it's I'm sorry,

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it is it is. I'm thinking of guys that are

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>pirates and sure, you know guys. Yeah, I'm thinking about

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>those guys. Unfortunately, a lot of times. Sorry, I mean

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>no disrespect to anybody out there. I think I think

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a draft room here. I'm sorry. A lot

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>of times. You know, these guys that are uber talented,

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>they've never been told no in their lives. They've got

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>some character issues, and Antonio County it's one of them.

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Some really some of the really good players. This kid

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that's talent is clearly there. Yeah. I might have him

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>low on talent to be in the third round. Yeah,

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>but Dane's absolutely right. If he's on people's boards, this

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is one of me. These guys, you have to have

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>a strong general manager to come in and say, you

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>know what, we're gonna take this guy and the guy Cleveland,

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>now that guy Cleveland, now that general Magic Cleveland is

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>not afraid to John Dorsey's not afraid to take some

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>not afraid to take a risk. A popular comparison with

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Colloboy is gonna be Tyreek Hill. Yeah exactly. Different issues, Yeah,

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>but different issues, but the same type of why did

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you take this guy fast? He's not Tyrek Hill fast,

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>but he's a big time athlete, big time. You watch

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>him play, he makes some Remember I remember him from UF.

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's not his ability. My last memory of

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>him from UF is watching a fumble or watching a

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>punt yeah inside the five yard line? Just yeah, what

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Yeah, Like he's just so unreliable off

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the field, but the athleticism is off the chart. He's

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys you watch him play and he's

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>hard to tackle because he's always he's got the Dez

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Bryant spin around. Just he's trying to fight for yard.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I just want to point this out, like our guy

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>LSU's DJ Chark maybe a little inconsistent, good character, Brian

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like him. This guy very inconsistent, bad character, not

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>from LSU, and Brian's just like give him, give them

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to me. I love this guy. I want him. Well.

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>One thing I do want to mention is remember last

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>year with I'm just saying, Joe Mixon, You're not wrong.

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon wasn't at the combine. Yeah, I've been in

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that rule. Yeah they got rid of it, didn't they. Well,

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>nothing's been said publicly about are there any guys, any

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>high profile guy he's there that criteria? But wasn't it.

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was any like anything felony related. I thought,

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I am pretty I could think it was more about

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>domestic think it was more about domestic viole okay. I

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>thought that they included it for any like assault or

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>any you know, like and there's a few guys in this.

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm fairly I'm fairly certain that it was just DV

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>or like that type of stuff, which in my there

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>was another guy that wasn't invited that it wasn't just mixing. No,

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it's mixing, and uh, I can't blanket right now, but yeah,

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>there was two notables, but this year we don't have that.

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was more it was domestic violence,

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>but I thought it also included assault too. You might

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>be right. I just remember they put a big emphasis

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.479
<v Speaker 1>on DV right. Yeah, as far as I know, there

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>aren't any big time pro x who have that. No,

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was it was a bad rule, but

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it's good that you know, we don't have that issue

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>this year. Getting back to the interviews, arden Key speaking

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of lsu Hey a guy who have fun with that

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>big time combine for him on it during drills and

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>then also during interviews the medicals as well. It's going

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>on the shoulder, the knee, the back of the finger.

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>So but the interviews football passion, Yeah, you're gonna put

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the work in to reach your potential. Yeah, teams are

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to try and figure this guy out because

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a first round talent all day. I don't know

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>if he's gonna go there. He is going to get

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>compared to Randy Gregory. Yeah, it will and you know

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.479
<v Speaker 1>what good or bad he is going to get compared

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to Randy Gregory. Fun, fun little anecdote. I was talking

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>draft with somebody over on the important side of the

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>building the other day and arden Key came up, and

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, I'm basically forget about that

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>guy because there's so many red flags that I just like,

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid to even think about him. And he was like,

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>trust me, I haven't forgotten about him. Like I think

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be big for him, Like what kind

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of shape he's in, how he performs, how his interviews go.

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if he nails it, arden Key, yeah, Like

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>if he has a great combine, I think you'll see

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>him talked about as like a you know, a first

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>round like like he's kind of the forgotten talent because

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>there's so much unknown stuff there, but he could he's

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of he's almost like Ruben Foster of this draft,

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a guy that you I think, if everything was clean,

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>a top ten player possibly, but because there's so many questions,

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>he could easily fall to the end of the first

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>round or even into the second because of you have

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>questions up and down. I mean, you wouldn't he come

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>came back to LSU this year after his four month

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>leave of absence. Yeah, he had a rebirth quote unquote,

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>um went in great shape, but that's it. He was

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>overweight and yes he had the shoulder surgery. Shoulder surgeries

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>don't mean that you can't run yea and work out

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, keep off the bad weight. Just plenty

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of questions with this guy. But like if he just

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>if he you know, when you write you're like guys

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>who won the combine story. Yeah, if he's one of them,

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>then I think he'll shoot back into the first round conversation,

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>which like I feel like he's he's not as talked

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 1>about as he would be if there weren't so many

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>questions marks, right, who takes the chance on him? Well,

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing him. I do release my updated mock draft

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>today and working on it, working on it over the weekend.

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I came this close to putting arden Key New England,

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>New England at thirty one. Uh that you know, if

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>his interview goes well, New England, the medicals check out.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>New England does not draft like the rest of us.

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>They don't have no no, no, I mean this in

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>a way, they don't care now they will they have

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>they have that luxury. They will look. I'll tell you

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>what they will do though, They will take some mock

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>drafts and see where guys rank. You know they will.

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 1>They will put them in order of how many times

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>a guy appeared at what spots. Yeah, I think a

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of teams will do it with but you know

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 1>they don't. But they do. They do not care one

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>bit what anybody says. That they're on their own. They're

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>on their own mission. There two more guys real quick,

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for the interviews. Two corners. Mike Hues from Central Florida.

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>There you go at that incident as a freshman, that

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.479
<v Speaker 1>where he left North Carolina first round player Duco last

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>year showed up at UCF absolutely as a first round

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>player on the field. And then Holton Hill corner from Texas.

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 1>First of all, that guy has the drug test at

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the combine. That's step number one. And then it's just

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>the interviews and him holding up. He's a another good player. Yeah,

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean second round, probably a second round town. Here.

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm liking guys and her thieves. I guess I'm a

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>white white collar criminal guy, am I You're just you

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.439
<v Speaker 1>just like the like you're like, everybody likes a bad

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>boy like you. Holton Hill is a good football player.

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>You just want you want the satisfaction of taking the

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>risk and having it payoff rather than just taking this. Yeah,

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I'm doing radio, rather than just taking

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the safe player. Yeah, I risk reward. I fight. I

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 1>fight for the I fight for the bad guy as

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.439
<v Speaker 1>you were a bad guy too. Oh, I mean there's

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's I go back. I laugh about John Gruden.

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Remember Derek Alexander. Yeah, yeah, you guys don't like him. Kids,

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>he's getting a drinking brod them. That was Gruden when

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Derrick Alexander wide receiver Cleveland took him right, Yeah, yeah,

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>everybody we were just there was, oh you know this guy. No,

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't want him wrong, don't want him wrong, don't

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>want him Ron got a drinking problem. No, Gruden, I'm not.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about Derek Alexander? Well, you know, Ron,

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I really liked the guy, got him a first round

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>grade on him. Ben he's getting a drinking him. Oh

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 1>my god, this is so many drops right now. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see heard that story so many times,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but this is the first time I think on air

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 1>and I've heard it. Yeah, but that's true. Scouts getting there,

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>they start killing these kids. I mean, it's just it's

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it's and then next thing you know, the coaches come

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in and there and the coaches are just seeing football players.

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>They're watching the tent. They're going, I don't know what's

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't Hey, it's like us when we sit down

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and watch and we can't figure out why why. You know,

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>we're doing the draft. We're Day three and like, dang,

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>give me your three best guys on the board. And

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>he's got a second round grade on a guy. Yeah,

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and you're sitting there going, wait a minute, the medical problem,

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 1>red flag alcoholism. Every freaking year, it happens. Yeah, every year.

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Every year, it happens. Every year. You got one more guy.

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>That's it for interte trying to do the athlete everyone

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>to do. Yeah, let's do that. Let's do well when

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>we come back, let's hit the athletes. We'll do that.

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>That would be a good one to do. And then

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll do some twitter on the twenty then I promise

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.720
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<v Speaker 1>for being out there with us and hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>us on the podcast. However, you're getting this live later,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, hopefully. Again We're always about trying to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate and educate. We're gonna be from the combine. We'll

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>be with you. We haven't got the times yet. When

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<v Speaker 1>we will be, it'll probably be more after the in

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<v Speaker 1>the evening live stuff because we've got stuff all day

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 1>assigned barely late if I yeah, yeah, six o'clock ish, Yeah,

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's in where hour ahead, So we're in the

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Eastern time zone there. Yeah, I believe we are. I

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>believe we are so yeah, but I'll figure that out. No, No,

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.479
<v Speaker 1>we'll figure out Yeah, thank you Miles, but we will

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Eastern time zone I believe once again. But yeah, where

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>we will get the times, we'll tweet those out, we'll

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>let everybody know when we're doing. But we're going to

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:00.959
<v Speaker 1>be trying to be consistent about that. Shows coming off

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday Thursday. Damn it, Dane, He's right, Wednesday, Thursday,

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>fright Eastern time zone. Right. It's almost like he's gone

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>to this thing thirty times. Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I actually can't get right. And I can find restaurants

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>for you there by the way, I did say two

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>reservations already made. But just let Dane finish this. I am,

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I am, but but draft show Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and we'll get you the time. Go ahead, Dan finished,

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:28.720
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's move to athletic. You know the sexy

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>part of the combine, or as some people call it,

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the underwear Olympics. Yep. But as one of my mentors,

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Cio Brocado said, if you got dressed a soul, you

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>don't value the combine. You just don't know how to

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>properly use it. And that's what we're gonna. Got a

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of numbers from the agility drills and a few

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>guys that need to perform well. I'bout Courtland Sutton, wide

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>receiver from SMU. Absolutely a player who is a power

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>forward on the football field, big athletic. He's fluid, he

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>can make easy adjustments on the ball, how asked is he?

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, you know, And I think a

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>bigger worries the route running and he just needs to

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>become more polished player. And it's a guy who's recruited

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>as a safety when he went to SMU, so and

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a big jump from the SMU offense

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to whatever team he ends up with. But just how

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 1>fast is he? If he runs under a four, five, five,

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I call out a win. Yeah, he's in the first

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>round up. Yeah, yeah, But if he's a four or five,

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 1>eight or higher, then that's when we're thinking probably somewhere

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>in the top sixty. And it's amazing that a couple

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>tents of a second can matter that much what they do,

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>but they will. James Washington kind of similar, a guy

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that did well the Senior Bowl, had an illustrious career

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>at Oklahoma State. Is he a four four guy? Four

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 1>five guy? You know, it's kind of hard to judge

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>his speed. We see a separation there down the field,

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and we see that, but it's against big twelve corners. Yeah,

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>it's free access. Playing in the big twelve takes it

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>tough to gauge speed sometimes what DJ Chark, a guy

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned earlier, and I've said this before in past shows.

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>If he hits that four three one fourth too, like

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Will Fuller, could he vault up and possibly sneak enough

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>late first round teams looking for that speed. I think

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 1>it's possible. You can't rule it out. Um, who else

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about? Orlando Brown? Oklahoma, Oklahoma? Heavy feet,

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 1>we know that, but offensive tackle Oklahoma, right, Dad with

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>zeus right, not your typical left tackle. He's a big plotter,

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>but he still has to test relatively well. Yeah, he

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 1>can be average, he just can't be below average. Yeah,

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 1>the film will be interesting because the film is I

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 1>think is good. The athlete, I mean you're gonna see

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>him is. He's not gonna move with any a lot

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 1>of grace. He's one I struggle with because I just

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to tackle with heavy feet. Now he's

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.359
<v Speaker 1>able to compensate in ways, but I just go back

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to I do not want to tackle with heavy feet,

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and so it's he's a tough one to figure out.

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully Combine will help us with that evaluation. Going over

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the defensive side of the ball. Hercules mad offa a

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>player who is a question about him. He's position confusion

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot, a man without a home. Yeah. He lined

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.280
<v Speaker 1>up as an interior pass rusher for at Washington State

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and he won because of that first step, initial burst

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 1>where he's able to attack gaps and pretty much end

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>up in the backfield before the quarterback and running back

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.320
<v Speaker 1>can do anything about it. How is he going to

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>look during you know, rushing off the edge? Can he bend?

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Can he drop in space? There are plenty of questions

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>about hercules made Offa. If he performs well to combine,

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he locks himself up in you know, the

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 1>top sixty picks. He's that type of performer. But if

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't perform well, then the questions just are illuminated

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>even more about okay, what position is transition? Yeah, so

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions about mad Offa. Uh Chemiko Terrey

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>guy we talked about with medicals athleticism matter. Vitea can

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the three forty pound or get under five flat in

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the forty I think Vitevea is gonna put on a

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 1>show with what he does. That's amazing. Really it's uh

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>don Terry Poe. He waited in at three forty six

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I think, and he ran a four nine eight and

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that put him. I think he was drafted like twelfth

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>overall by the Chiefs. Vita Vee is gonna be a

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of these one techniques are gonna

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>are gonna put on a show. I don't think he's

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the only one, you know. I think there's some of

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>these guys we've got so not those guys. I mean

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 1>they got like five one two on so not run.

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's some guys net in the drown. Paine's

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 1>a good as exactly. There might be some guys that

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>hit right below five or right at it on some

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>of these forty yard dash. These guys, they're freaks. Absolutely.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Lorenzo Carter, Georgia linebacker. He's gonna test really well, probably

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>over forty in the vert fast, the change of directions easy.

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>But another guy, where do you play him? Exactly? What's

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 1>is he? I don't think he's a passed rush I

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>think he's strong enough. I don't know the powers a

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher. Can he drop and does he have the

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 1>instincts to play in space? A lot of questions about

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Lorenzo Carter, but I don't think there'll be any question

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 1>about his athleticism. And then we get to the corners

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.879
<v Speaker 1>where a lot of these guys are gonna just test

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>off the charts. Denzel Ward h Dante Jackson from LSU

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>might pick for the fastest forty this ship Jackson, Yeah,

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 1>fastest forty. He might hit the four twos. He's a

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>big time athlete. Record center. Oh what's his name? Ross?

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Last year? Yeah, four one seven. I think it hit

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 1>four two one, didn't I don't remember. Yeah, it was

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>four two one. I don't think you'll get that, but

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>four twos is definitely possible. Tony Brown LSU fans in here,

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Tony Brown corner from Alabama, same type of deal. He's

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a track athlete. He's gonna test really well. And then

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Derwin James. Uh, guy, we expect to Durwin James tests

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>real well. You just kiss him goodbye. He's gonna blow up. Yeah,

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna do it. If you're a Cowboy fan, you

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 1>need Durwin James just to flop. That would be nice.

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.959
<v Speaker 1>I think most Cowboys fans have accepted the fact that

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.439
<v Speaker 1>he's probably not gonna be there at nineteen. But yeah,

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I think the combine is only going to Malie Cooker

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to be there either right, keep reminding that

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:03.919
<v Speaker 1>let me dream, Yeah, let me dream. Let me all right, Dane,

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. I appreciate that. Again. Combine all

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>this week Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Dane, part of all

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that will be there for we all week with the interviews,

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>content writing about guys every day. Dave, Okay, we got

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>about ten minutes to go. We can hit a little

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Twitter on the twenty. Yeah, we do this every year,

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's important, especially for a combine preview.

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Dustin just wants a refresher on what drills matter for

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>which position. So you know your your three cone matters,

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>your pass rushers and that type of stuff. I think

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 1>three cone matters for every position. I do too. It's

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that the short shuttle mentioned Ceo Bracado earlier. He created

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the three cone. It just it helps judge a player

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 1>in space, it helps their change direction and maybe besides quarterback,

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to see how you know, are they stiff?

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's no escaping the three cone drill and

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the shuttles. Uh. If you're a stiff athlete, Yeah, you

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>won't survive the Oh no, you you will, you will,

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you will know a lot. You will you will get

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:04.320
<v Speaker 1>exposed if you cannot turn and or you cannot bend

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 1>and turn and have any lateral agility that the three

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 1>cone will kill you. The forty yard dash matters for

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a receiver, I mean in corner. I mean cornerback is

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the stopwatch position because your draft grade and evaluation will

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>matter a lot based on how you perform in the

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>forty yard dash and some of the other agility drills.

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>For pass rushers, I want to know ten yards split, Yeah,

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>what's that initial explosion off the line vertical? Do you

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 1>have that lower body explosion? Same with the offensive line

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>offensive defensive line too. I think that people like to

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:40.320
<v Speaker 1>see defensive lining with that ten You know, remember Tom Coughlin,

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 1>He'll be down there time and at the tense. I

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>mean that's important to those guys, that initial burst off

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the off the line there. Absolutely. Yeah, Kevin wants to

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>know what position group do you think will perform the

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>best overall. You know we're dis gushing about the defensive

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>tackles or somebody else. I would lean towards the corners

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 1>because I think they're gonna be blazing. I think Dante

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Jackson could get in the four twos. I think Denzel Ward,

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State corner is gonna be in the four threes.

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Tony Brown I mentioned, so I think a lot of

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 1>corners are gonna run really well. But yeah, we mentioned

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.879
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackles, really athletic group. Nathan Shephard, a guy from

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Ford Haye State who we mentioned. I think he's gonna

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.919
<v Speaker 1>put on a show with what he can do. Big

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle, who older prospect, long journey, but here he

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 1>is on the NFL's doorstep. I think he's gonna have

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a good week in Indianapolis. What about the tight ends, Yeah,

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>well you see, I mean maybe it's a maybe. Some

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 1>some athletic guys got Hurst. I finished hurst tape over

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the weekend. Put a kind of an exclamation point on

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.839
<v Speaker 1>his profile, his report. My comparison for him, I think

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you see a lot of Travis Kelsey in his game.

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>There you go, I think, and Travis Kelsey's thank you

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>very much watching the draft show, folks. He's a top

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 1>five tight end league. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I

0:49:56.040 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>mean I think that this if you look at Hurst, Godert, yeah,

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and then then Andrews, you know, we'll see. I mean,

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be some guy. I don't know if Andrews

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>will test. I mean, I think he's a four seven

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>nine guy on the but maybe run better than that.

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.280
<v Speaker 1>But you'll see some guys that I have a feeling

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Aikins from Central for I mean he's I know, he's

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a former. I'm just about athletic ability and stuff like

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna jump out of the gym exactly there. There

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.839
<v Speaker 1>might be that that that might be a group when

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it's all said and done. You don't normally pay attention

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 1>to tight ends, but this might be a group that's

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 1>worth paying to take. I think the tight end that

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.399
<v Speaker 1>won't test well, it's gonna be Troy fu Mngali and

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>he might be the forgotten guy. And that someone's gonna

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 1>get a good player on draft. That Lee Washington, Washington. Yeah,

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Disley from Washington. Another one. I mean, you love that guy.

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I watched him like, yes, not a week ago, and

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you won't shut up him. No, But I'm talking about

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>an inline player. Say he's a better blocker than receiver.

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a big man. Okay, he runs

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.359
<v Speaker 1>crossing rounds all day, get it. But I'll tell you what.

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>You put him at wing, you put him in line.

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:00.760
<v Speaker 1>You put him on the move. This guy, it's moved

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.919
<v Speaker 1>on defensive ends. I mean he will hold the point,

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>he will wash. Guy's a road greater he is. That's

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>exactly what he is. If you want to if you

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>want one of those blocking tight ends, I wouldn't be

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>surprised that you would ahead of Fumagali as far as

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 1>as far as like a blocking guy, think you will. Yeah,

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Nathaniel wants to know. He wants a prediction on who

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you think is gonna be the biggest overall standout. Is

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it gonna be a lesser known name who puts himself

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>on the radar like Byron Jones did, Or is it

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a guy that you know, like a Derwin

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 1>James who was already a well established guy. About Davenport

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 1>from Yea, Yeah, Marcus Davenport, Marcus Davinest. Well, you know

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:41.839
<v Speaker 1>a guy that looks like a defensive end. I think

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 1>he'll test really well. I agree about Daniels the center

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>from Iowa. Yeah, another guy will probably test well. And

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you watch the drills, he will look so much smoother

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:53.360
<v Speaker 1>than everyone else. By the way, he was number twenty

0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:56.919
<v Speaker 1>overall in my my mock draft to the Lions. A guy,

0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I got him too low and I got him in

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the second round. Uh, I think he's a first round.

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:03.319
<v Speaker 1>He's got to be a first round. I'm gonna miss

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that one up and still time. I guess he played

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 1>guard and tackle as a freshman, so I think there

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.760
<v Speaker 1>is some versatility there. Went back and watched that tape,

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Christian Kirk. Yeah, you think he's gonna test that well?

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he could see. There's some people who don't

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.239
<v Speaker 1>think he will. I don't know if he's I think

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I think his speed wise will be okay. I think

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.399
<v Speaker 1>he'll be like the chility stuff. You don't Yeah, I don't.

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Is he as sudden for the shuttle drills.

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We'll find out. Yeah, if you're going

0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to run in the low in the high four threes testing.

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm so impressed that Kent Garrison is keeping up with

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>all the names we're just throwing out with his with

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>his good producers. Do any award winner. By the way,

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I just won't let everybody know Cayden Gates on the Okayden,

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>hey use me, Hey, sorry, sorry out to Kayden in

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:48.919
<v Speaker 1>our TV department. He's gonna be award winning guy too.

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:50.319
<v Speaker 1>A matter of fact, he's the guy came up with

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.399
<v Speaker 1>all the ideas for our little up. He's a he's

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a hustler. He has some hustle to him. Okay, speaking

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of hustlers, but we got we talked about Kirk one

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 1>more mentions Vita Vea. I think we talked about him obviously.

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 1>But what he's gonna do at three hundred and forty pounds,

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I think is just it's rare. He's a unicorn. Can

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you disagree with me about Armstrong from Kansas? Do you

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>think he does anything? I think you'll have a solid,

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>solid combine. Yeah, he's a he's a basketball player. You

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>know he's he's gonna move well, he's a balanced athlete. Well,

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 1>people start talking about him. I'm talking about who's a

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 1>buzz guy. Give me a buzz guy that somebody will

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about. What's gonna hurt Dorn's Willia or Dorance Armstrong is.

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think he's gonna be as

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 1>big with the measurable Yeah, I think you know that.

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. Okay, I think the measurables might

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of quell the vibe with him. Um, but yeah,

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>we always have. I mean, especially these pass rushers, Ard

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and Key. We talked about him. But that guy that

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:49.400
<v Speaker 1>could really make a name for himself, Josh Sweat from

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Florida State. I think he's going to put up big thing.

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I could be really wrong about him. I'm so intrigued

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 1>by these D tackles because this is you know, y'all

0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>are gushing about these D tackles, but I'm sitting here

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:01.880
<v Speaker 1>thinking that's not a position that I really think of.

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Is like like they don't have a run. You don't

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 1>have a run on D tackles. They might way you

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<v Speaker 1>do with receivers. This one might. This might be one

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't get the right guy. You're thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa wait, I lost that ups I lost. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be amazing because like I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of that ever happening where it's just like, okay,

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.279
<v Speaker 1>here comes the run. D tackles are flying off the board.

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 1>We thought that was going to happen like what two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, I mean a Shawn Robinson and Jaren Reid

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and that whole group like that, But it was like

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<v Speaker 1>forty one, forty eight yead it was kind of in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, but it was a little later on than

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<v Speaker 1>we thought. I guess h and a d tackle we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't mentioned today. Taven Bryan from Florida. Yeah. You asked

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive coaches at Florida, they'll tell you that he

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<v Speaker 1>was the best athlete on the team. Yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to test really well, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>that could be the extra jolt he needs to make

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<v Speaker 1>it into the first Buckeye question for you. Dane from

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<v Speaker 1>John okayh Denzel Ward still a top fifteen pick if

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't measure out well, he's kind of on the

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<v Speaker 1>short side. We did and we didn't talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>fourth category, which is the measurements, but he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys in that category where like if he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>hit five ten, right, five ten is kind of the

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:10.800
<v Speaker 1>magic number four him. What's Hurst? I mean, I'm not Hurst?

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>What's uh? What's my guy? Hughes the same boat? Yeah?

0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Is he? What's Fitzpatrick Minka? Yeah? Is he worried about him?

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>He's Oh. I'm just saying though, but sure, if you

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<v Speaker 1>depend on where you're playing. He's six foot yeah, six

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 1>foot Menka is not ye, he's a bigger dude, I

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>mean at least not his And well, so what if

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't hit it, or what if somebody doesn't hit it? Well,

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I think we're going into the into this combine knowing

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 1>he's short. You know, I don't so if he comes

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 1>in it, we're talking Ward, right, yeah, Denzel Ward. I

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>think he needs to at least be close to five ten.

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't hit five, you know, five ten, he

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 1>needs at least be five o nine six, five o

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 1>nine seven at least, you know, be a hair off.

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>What's his reach? It does say the length we saw

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that with you know, Jordan lewis not the Taalst guy,

0:55:57.520 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>but he had good length to him and Denzel, he

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>needs good length because that's really the only knock against it.

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 1>He battled Simi Cobbs. We watched that this week. Yeah, yeah,

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and at Indiana and a couple of times, a couple

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:10.799
<v Speaker 1>of times, but yeah, and he was down on the

0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 1>goal line down there. But I mean he'll battle, Oh yeah,

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.359
<v Speaker 1>for a shorter guy, he will battle. And they they

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>moved him over there, matter of fact to cover cops

0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.879
<v Speaker 1>playing the Golden Play. Devil's advocate for me, like, this

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 1>is a guy that we widely. I mean, he's universally

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 1>regarded as a top fifty ten, fifteen pick. Right if

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't I mean, if he doesn't have that length,

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't have that height, what type of impact

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:34.880
<v Speaker 1>does it have? Well, And some teams have strict policies

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the cornerbacks, a team that this

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>team used to scout for green Bay, green Bay and

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 1>this team as well. Buckley did that. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't imagine him falling much further than

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:48.760
<v Speaker 1>like fifteen or twenty, even if he's got the knocks

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 1>outful because we saw like Vernon Hargraves go in the

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 1>top fifteen, a guy that wasn't the biggest at the longest.

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 1>But you had a problem with Hardgraves, right remember that

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.759
<v Speaker 1>on the length. Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of Yeah,

0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think Den's award. He has the athleticism the

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:03.480
<v Speaker 1>makeup for it, and then just to cover skills, the

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>ball skills instincts. Really the only knock against him is

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the size. But the height is this problem right, well,

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and we don't know about the length. We'll find out

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>about that. And see that's what Will said. Will McClay said,

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that he's not so much about high. It's not about

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the high, it's about the arm len your reach, your

0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 1>ability to disrupt the catch point. That's that's really where

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 1>it matters, because more often than not, wide receivers are

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 1>going to tower over corners. But if you have that

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 1>reach to at least disrupt the catch point, that's all

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 1>you need to do as a corner. And so for

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Denzel Award, the measurements were big for him, no doubt

0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:39.920
<v Speaker 1>there we go. Be good to go. It's eleven o'clock.

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 1>If y'all want to keep going, we can. Why are

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Why aren't we talking about Semi Cobbs? By the way,

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about Simi Cobbs. We get to the combine,

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.000
<v Speaker 1>big combine for him. Is he gonna run? Yeah? Is

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he gonna run? What's he gonna run? You got arrested

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 1>last summer toom got some nice tape, all right? That

0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:00.280
<v Speaker 1>went for the draft show for the day, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the draft show for the week. We'll be back Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Saturday from the combine there in Indianapolis. We'll have everything

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>covered from the morning workouts all the way through the

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.000
<v Speaker 1>evening and then talk about it at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. So I want to thank my Scouts, Dame Burglar,

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<v Speaker 1>David Hellman, Kake Garrison, executive producer, appreciate everybody out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you from Indianapolis.