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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are war Room for in center, news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in for School, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliot and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: good morning from everybody here at the draft show. We're

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Speaker 1: here at the SWBC Mortgage Studios. Brian brought us Dan Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, Kitt Garrison, Executive Producing. Uh, it is uh

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Speaker 1: combine e for us. Will you leave tonight? Yep. I

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Speaker 1: fled India tonight and David and myself why didn't we

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Speaker 1: do that? I don't know, because now we gotta get

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Speaker 1: up at four thirty in the morning to catch its

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Speaker 1: flock flight. It's okay. You like that though, like I

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Speaker 1: do the old man and you I do. You dig

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Speaker 1: getting up as early as humanly possible. I do. I enjoy,

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Speaker 1: like to enjoy trying to see you'll make it to

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Speaker 1: the airport on time. Oh, I'll be there to test

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Speaker 1: with bells on. It's a test, David. You need to

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Speaker 1: kind of be ready to roll. I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: been the first one there the last two years or

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Speaker 1: was it last year where I think I kind of you,

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Speaker 1: kind of you and kids? Ye, Ken squeaked on Yeah,

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Speaker 1: yet seconds before I think Ki had a strange look

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Speaker 1: on his face when he was the last one honest

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Speaker 1: at the door behind. When you get there two hours

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Speaker 1: early and still don't make it, yeah, that was the

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Speaker 1: security line. I wasn't need to figure out the shorter

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Speaker 1: security line. I get there four hours early. We've we've

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Speaker 1: still haven't done our tsa pre check. You need to

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Speaker 1: go a little further up. Don't always go to the

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Speaker 1: one school further all right, we'll figure it out. We'll

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Speaker 1: be there, I know you will. We'll be there looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that. It is, like I said, a combine week.

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Speaker 1: So I do want to get into some combine. Uh

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Speaker 1: some dudes, some don't, some good, some bad. Some help

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Speaker 1: me Dane Brugler, Yeah, this is the big combine preview.

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Speaker 1: Try to set the stage so you know what you're

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Speaker 1: looking for with respect, and let's just get right into it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think most people know what the combine is,

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Speaker 1: but really you can when you think about a break

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Speaker 1: up in the four different categories. You have your medicals,

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Speaker 1: which are the most important by far. That's why the

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Speaker 1: combine was created back in the eighties. It was so

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Speaker 1: you know, these prospects wouldn't have to go city to city, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting looked at by a doctor here, doctor there,

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Speaker 1: Mr here. I did just do it one central location,

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Speaker 1: It's true and India. A big reason they do it

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Speaker 1: in India is because of the amount of medical equipment

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Speaker 1: within a you know, a mile radius, so it is.

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Speaker 1: It is one of the great cities ever. The combine

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Speaker 1: was invented. Indie was invented for this combine. Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean Indie is a is a great town to begin with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the way that they're the way the hotel situation,

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Speaker 1: well it's convention center, yes, the walking ability, the hotels,

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Speaker 1: bring a massive amount of people to one central location

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Speaker 1: and make it work as smoothly as they do. Right,

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis is a perfect city even in the winter and

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Speaker 1: there exactly. And not to mention, they've been doing it

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Speaker 1: there so long they've almost got it down to a science.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the few cities in this

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Speaker 1: and I'll find any ef I know where everything is.

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Speaker 1: I've been going there since ninety two. Find your way

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Speaker 1: to the webber grew I know exactly. Saturday night, eight pm.

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Speaker 1: really the pretzel rules. I'm gonna eat so many pretzel rules.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, but no, but the central the fact of

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Speaker 1: the medical right, that's first and foremost, what's most important.

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Speaker 1: That's why the combines created, and that's that's what matters

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Speaker 1: the most. Number Two, the interviews. Yeah, a chance for coaches,

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Speaker 1: general managers, scouts to go in one of these guys. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and this is for a lot of these players the

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Speaker 1: for general managers, head coaches, especially with these juniors, guys

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Speaker 1: A chance to put numbers to that, to compare and

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Speaker 1: a chance to kind of cross check yourself. And then

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Speaker 1: exact height, weight, length, hand size, wingspan, everything else. All

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Speaker 1: the measurements on these players, especially the juniors. A lot

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Speaker 1: of the seniors we have numbers from either from the

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Speaker 1: with the underclassman guys that we don't have exact measurements

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Speaker 1: on a chance to do with the combine. So brief

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Speaker 1: four categories, and we'll start by kind of going through

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Speaker 1: Where he would go and stuff. But the combine again

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Speaker 1: brings everybody together. They interview the coaches, the general manager,

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Speaker 1: and of all the categories, how would you do that? All? Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's and let's include your fifth category in the team interview.

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Speaker 1: So that's just part of it, right exactly, so we

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Speaker 1: can talk about it. So let's do the four categories.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the medical and let's talk about a

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Speaker 1: few players that they need a good week and Indie

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Speaker 1: want to focus in on a little bit on the interview.

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Speaker 1: I respect to the thing I think that you said

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Speaker 1: medical Now the interview, I orton give me some guys

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Speaker 1: that you know, Hey, we always hear the whispers. I

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Speaker 1: always hear the whispers from the guys saying Dany Burgley

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Speaker 1: will tweet out there something very cryptic. One day at

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Speaker 1: the draft, he'll go hearing that Baker Mayfield is impressing.

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Speaker 1: You know, we always get that. We'll always get that

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Speaker 1: him or him or Gil Brandt, one of those guys

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Speaker 1: will throw out something hearing that interviews didn't go well

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Speaker 1: for Yeah, but fill in the blank. Plan to throw

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Speaker 1: us a nugget. Yeah, this is the lying season. But

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Speaker 1: you know, try to try to swim through the lies

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Speaker 1: and figure out what's what's truth and talk to the

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Speaker 1: right guys. Yeah, I know who's lying to you. That's

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Speaker 1: the that's the key, right. And so with these interviews,

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Speaker 1: obviously it's not similar to the medicals. It's based on

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Speaker 1: what we hear. You know, we're not in the room.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna there's no coverage of that except for

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Speaker 1: when the players do talk to the media. But a

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Speaker 1: few players that need to impress in the interview portion

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Speaker 1: start with quarterbacks. Josh Rosen, a guy we mentioned with

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Speaker 1: the medical plenty of questions about his personality, is fit,

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Speaker 1: whether his arrogance will fit in an NFL locker room,

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Speaker 1: is he coachable? You know, this is a guy who

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Speaker 1: believes he's the smartest person in the room, and that's

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Speaker 1: just not always gonna work. Yeah, in every situation, so

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Speaker 1: how he and you know, he should be himself, but

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Speaker 1: at the same time, and he's a dial it back

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Speaker 1: a little bit when he's in these interviews with owners

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Speaker 1: or general managers or head coaches and come off a

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Speaker 1: little more humble, come off a little more coachable. And

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Speaker 1: we'll see if he's able to do that. I could

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Speaker 1: say he needs to be humble and sit down. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you know who I think he is throwing the ball.

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Speaker 1: I always say this, I think Matt Ryan. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: kind OF's got that the way he's built, that kind

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Speaker 1: of slim, you know, moving around the pocket a little bit,

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Speaker 1: makes makes some incredible throws, and then he'll make he'll

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Speaker 1: just get sacked and you're like, oh what I think

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Speaker 1: you see a little Matt Ryan. You see it Eli Man? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two guys that went to the Super Bowl. Sureli won

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Speaker 1: two of himself. Sure guys that are I don't mean

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Speaker 1: that in a slam. I mean I mean that is

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Speaker 1: because Matt Ryan, I think is a pretty damn was

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Speaker 1: it League MVP? Yeah? Absolutely, But I think when you

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Speaker 1: watch this guy throw the football, he's the guy and

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Speaker 1: maybe has something to do with the I know Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan's two, this guy's three. It has something to do

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Speaker 1: maybe the narrow number, the narrow number on the body

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Speaker 1: and the way he kind of throws the ball. But

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. Do you think that? Do you

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Speaker 1: think that that general managers try and try and make

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Speaker 1: an abrasive conversation with him. See if you to see

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Speaker 1: if he'll come out and be absolutely you know, I would,

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Speaker 1: I'd challenge him. You beat him, I would. I would

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Speaker 1: challenge him. I'd see how much he really wants to

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Speaker 1: fight me. I get what you're saying, and he does

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Speaker 1: come across his arrogant but like I almost I want

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Speaker 1: that in my quarterback to a degree. And that's that

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Speaker 1: is the fine line that you have to figure out.

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Speaker 1: And this is where the general manager and scouts have

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Speaker 1: to put, you know, become a psychologist almost to figure

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Speaker 1: out what's going on. I have a plan to talk

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Speaker 1: to him, I think, oh ye, absolutely, yeah, you have

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Speaker 1: a little plan, like, hey, let's piss this guy off. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see if we can do it. You

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Speaker 1: have to kind of challenge him based on you know,

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Speaker 1: why don't you love football? You know that question stings

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Speaker 1: right and kind of go into it with you know,

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Speaker 1: because he's an intellectual guy. He's a very he doesn't

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Speaker 1: you know, he likes to think things through. He's a

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Speaker 1: problem solvere with his mind, so he'll challenge everything that

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Speaker 1: you say. Yeah, let me let me give you an example.

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Speaker 1: If you've ever watched Gruden's football camp, quarterback camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are the kinds of questions that scouts and general

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Speaker 1: managers ask these players, except on a different except at

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Speaker 1: different positions. And I'm sure and they're probably a little

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Speaker 1: more harsh. I mean, grudendals a back a little he

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Speaker 1: does a back a little bit. But but you get

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Speaker 1: the idea of that kind of what were you thinking here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you try and see where the guy's demeanor

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Speaker 1: really is. Is he is? He does it bother him

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Speaker 1: when he gets criticized? Can he take You have an

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Speaker 1: idea if a guy could take hard coaching or not,

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Speaker 1: what is he gonna throws her Eiver's under the bus? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna throw his left tack. You know, coach Moore

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Speaker 1: really didn't have a very good plan for us at UCLA, right,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, Jim Moore has

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Speaker 1: a lot of friends in the National Football League. He

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Speaker 1: needs to be a little careful about who he says

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Speaker 1: that because I don't there's not gonna be any question

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Speaker 1: about his intelligence. No, I mean, I'm not worried about

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Speaker 1: his ability to you know, his recall. I'm not worried

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Speaker 1: about that, just more his his demeanor and how that's

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Speaker 1: going to play in the huddle. Are my veterans in

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Speaker 1: the locker room gonna, you know, look to this guy.

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Speaker 1: I say, Okay, this guy's a leader. That's the big

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Speaker 1: disconnect with with Rosen right now. So the combines are

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Speaker 1: gonna be huge for him. But stick with quarterback Mayfield. Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: there you go, guy that you know we saw the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, but he still has plenty more questions to answer,

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Speaker 1: and he'll do it the combine. A couple of wide

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Speaker 1: receivers say something about Baker Mayfield. I think when it's

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Speaker 1: all said and done, he's gonna be the one guy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that might be a couple of it's maybe Griffin

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Speaker 1: from UCF that when they when they interview him with

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Speaker 1: teams in that's where we're gonna get the jil Brandt tweet, hum,

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Speaker 1: everybody's falling in love with Baker may I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say everybody's falling. Hope. We don't mean that in a

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Speaker 1: bad way because I think, oh, that's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: it'll be. He will be the one guy that everybody

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Speaker 1: coming out of the interview that exactly well, I wish

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Speaker 1: I had a pick, I wish I could pick a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and that Baker Mayfield will be that guy. With what

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Speaker 1: Dave was saying about you want your quarterback to be

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Speaker 1: a little arrogant, Yeah, I think that's where Mayfield will

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Speaker 1: come off as arrogant, but in the competitive type of way,

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Speaker 1: right where Rosen doesn't always come off and you know,

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Speaker 1: he comes off arrogant like you know, I'm smarter than

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Speaker 1: you type of way, and so that that will be

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Speaker 1: a key distinction for and if I'm smart, if I'm

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Speaker 1: a team, I'm doing their interviews, I'm doing all these

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Speaker 1: quarterback interviews. I'm gonna trying to line them up back

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Speaker 1: to back to back. Oh, no doubt, man, You've got

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Speaker 1: a plan that is exactly what you do. Yeah, here,

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Speaker 1: these guys want absolutely other You ask similar questions to

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Speaker 1: a few of them. Can I ask you a question,

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Speaker 1: how would you think you handled interviewed for Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 1: Do you ask him about the Bill Polian stuff. Do

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Speaker 1: you say, you know, ell yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's people that don't think you could play quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: What do you say to that? What if I okay,

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Speaker 1: what if we bring you to our facility as a

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Speaker 1: workout and we asked you to run some routes? What

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Speaker 1: would your response be? There? You go, you know, are

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Speaker 1: you open to it? Are you? I mean, because you're

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Speaker 1: baiting him to see if you'll say, Hey, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna be a team player, do whatever I want

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Speaker 1: to do or see whatever I can. But but but

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Speaker 1: I don't want him to say that. I want him

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Speaker 1: say him. Did you see what Daniel j Well, great point.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Lamar's response to that? So Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: was like, if anybody sir, yeah, he was like, if

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Speaker 1: anybody says He's like he's talking to Lamar hypothetically. He's like,

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Speaker 1: if anybody asks you to play wide receiver, you say,

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Speaker 1: I look forward to playing against you. And Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: I think it was last night or maybe two days

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Speaker 1: ago quote tweeted him and was like hell, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly love that. Yeah, it's one thing for Denard

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Speaker 1: Robinson when he's coming out of mission again for him

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Speaker 1: to be open minded to or Pat White out of

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Speaker 1: West Virginia open minded for playing another position for Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to hear all right. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you really want me to, you know, work out

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Speaker 1: what receiver, I'll do it. No. I want him to

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Speaker 1: tell me it convinced me. I don't need convincing, but

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Speaker 1: I want him to still convince me that he's a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the right mentality from the go

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Speaker 1: into interviews with Yeah, I agree with you on that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: some other guys, Uh, what if his quarterbacks are fascinating

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Speaker 1: by the way to talk to What about the receiver?

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Speaker 1: I know you really liked from Florida Antonio Kallaway Halloway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gave him a top three round grade. I have

589
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: him right now as I look at my board. Brian, Uh,

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Speaker 1: don't do that to me, David, I got him in

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Speaker 1: the third round. Yeah. And this is a guy who

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Speaker 1: why do you always fall in love with like the

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Speaker 1: questionable guys the gun Runners? Yeah? Why, this guy's more

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Speaker 1: to gun runner. He's he's actually got kicked off because

595
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Speaker 1: he stole. He didn't play at all last year. This

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Speaker 1: was this guy was in the middle of the credit

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Speaker 1: card credit card fraud. Yeah, and this and this was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, this isn't strike one. This is like straight

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Speaker 1: four for him, which is why Brian loves him. It's like,

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Speaker 1: give me the bad give me the bad guy. Brian's

601
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: not wrong about his ability. He's just very unreliable. Brian's

602
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: never wrong about these ability well, and unfortunate about the

603
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Speaker 1: gun Runner guys, He's never wrong about their Sorry, Hey,

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Speaker 1: my apologies. I know it's very sensitive. I shouldn't say

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Speaker 1: the word. I shouldn't use the word gun runner. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a draft clear, it's I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: it is it is. I'm thinking of guys that are

608
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Speaker 1: pirates and sure, you know guys. Yeah, I'm thinking about

609
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: those guys. Unfortunately, a lot of times. Sorry, I mean

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to anybody out there. I think I think

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Speaker 1: I'm in a draft room here. I'm sorry. A lot

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Speaker 1: of times. You know, these guys that are uber talented,

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Speaker 1: they've never been told no in their lives. They've got

614
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Speaker 1: some character issues, and Antonio County it's one of them.

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Speaker 1: Some really some of the really good players. This kid

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Speaker 1: that's talent is clearly there. Yeah. I might have him

617
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Speaker 1: low on talent to be in the third round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but Dane's absolutely right. If he's on people's boards, this

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Speaker 1: is one of me. These guys, you have to have

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Speaker 1: a strong general manager to come in and say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna take this guy and the guy Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: now that guy Cleveland, now that general Magic Cleveland is

623
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Speaker 1: not afraid to John Dorsey's not afraid to take some

624
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Speaker 1: not afraid to take a risk. A popular comparison with

625
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Speaker 1: Colloboy is gonna be Tyreek Hill. Yeah exactly. Different issues, Yeah,

626
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Speaker 1: but different issues, but the same type of why did

627
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Speaker 1: you take this guy fast? He's not Tyrek Hill fast,

628
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: but he's a big time athlete, big time. You watch

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Speaker 1: him play, he makes some Remember I remember him from UF.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not his ability. My last memory of

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Speaker 1: him from UF is watching a fumble or watching a

632
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Speaker 1: punt yeah inside the five yard line? Just yeah, what

633
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Speaker 1: are you doing? Yeah, Like he's just so unreliable off

634
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Speaker 1: the field, but the athleticism is off the chart. He's

635
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Speaker 1: one of those guys you watch him play and he's

636
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Speaker 1: hard to tackle because he's always he's got the Dez

637
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: Bryant spin around. Just he's trying to fight for yard.

638
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Speaker 1: I just want to point this out, like our guy

639
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: LSU's DJ Chark maybe a little inconsistent, good character, Brian

640
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: doesn't like him. This guy very inconsistent, bad character, not

641
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: from LSU, and Brian's just like give him, give them

642
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: to me. I love this guy. I want him. Well.

643
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: One thing I do want to mention is remember last

644
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: year with I'm just saying, Joe Mixon, You're not wrong.

645
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon wasn't at the combine. Yeah, I've been in

646
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: that rule. Yeah they got rid of it, didn't they. Well,

647
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: nothing's been said publicly about are there any guys, any

648
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: high profile guy he's there that criteria? But wasn't it.

649
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was any like anything felony related. I thought,

650
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Speaker 1: I am pretty I could think it was more about

651
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: domestic think it was more about domestic viole okay. I

652
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: thought that they included it for any like assault or

653
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: any you know, like and there's a few guys in this.

654
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm fairly I'm fairly certain that it was just DV

655
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: or like that type of stuff, which in my there

656
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: was another guy that wasn't invited that it wasn't just mixing. No,

657
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: it's mixing, and uh, I can't blanket right now, but yeah,

658
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: there was two notables, but this year we don't have that.

659
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: And I thought it was more it was domestic violence,

660
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: but I thought it also included assault too. You might

661
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: be right. I just remember they put a big emphasis

662
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: on DV right. Yeah, as far as I know, there

663
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: aren't any big time pro x who have that. No,

664
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was a bad rule, but

665
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: it's good that you know, we don't have that issue

666
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: this year. Getting back to the interviews, arden Key speaking

667
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: of lsu Hey a guy who have fun with that

668
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: big time combine for him on it during drills and

669
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: then also during interviews the medicals as well. It's going

670
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: on the shoulder, the knee, the back of the finger.

671
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: So but the interviews football passion, Yeah, you're gonna put

672
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: the work in to reach your potential. Yeah, teams are

673
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to try and figure this guy out because

674
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: he's a first round talent all day. I don't know

675
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: if he's gonna go there. He is going to get

676
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: compared to Randy Gregory. Yeah, it will and you know

677
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: what good or bad he is going to get compared

678
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: to Randy Gregory. Fun, fun little anecdote. I was talking

679
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: draft with somebody over on the important side of the

680
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: building the other day and arden Key came up, and

681
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm basically forget about that

682
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: guy because there's so many red flags that I just like,

683
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to even think about him. And he was like,

684
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: trust me, I haven't forgotten about him. Like I think

685
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: this is gonna be big for him, Like what kind

686
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: of shape he's in, how he performs, how his interviews go.

687
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if he nails it, arden Key, yeah, Like

688
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: if he has a great combine, I think you'll see

689
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: him talked about as like a you know, a first

690
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: round like like he's kind of the forgotten talent because

691
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: there's so much unknown stuff there, but he could he's

692
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of he's almost like Ruben Foster of this draft,

693
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: a guy that you I think, if everything was clean,

694
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: a top ten player possibly, but because there's so many questions,

695
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: he could easily fall to the end of the first

696
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: round or even into the second because of you have

697
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: questions up and down. I mean, you wouldn't he come

698
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: came back to LSU this year after his four month

699
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: leave of absence. Yeah, he had a rebirth quote unquote,

700
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: um went in great shape, but that's it. He was

701
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: overweight and yes he had the shoulder surgery. Shoulder surgeries

702
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: don't mean that you can't run yea and work out

703
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: and you know, keep off the bad weight. Just plenty

704
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: of questions with this guy. But like if he just

705
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: if he you know, when you write you're like guys

706
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: who won the combine story. Yeah, if he's one of them,

707
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: then I think he'll shoot back into the first round conversation,

708
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: which like I feel like he's he's not as talked

709
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: about as he would be if there weren't so many

710
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: questions marks, right, who takes the chance on him? Well,

711
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm doing him. I do release my updated mock draft

712
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: today and working on it, working on it over the weekend.

713
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: I came this close to putting arden Key New England,

714
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: New England at thirty one. Uh that you know, if

715
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: his interview goes well, New England, the medicals check out.

716
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: New England does not draft like the rest of us.

717
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: They don't have no no, no, I mean this in

718
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: a way, they don't care now they will they have

719
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: they have that luxury. They will look. I'll tell you

720
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: what they will do though, They will take some mock

721
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: drafts and see where guys rank. You know they will.

722
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: They will put them in order of how many times

723
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: a guy appeared at what spots. Yeah, I think a

724
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: lot of teams will do it with but you know

725
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: they don't. But they do. They do not care one

726
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: bit what anybody says. That they're on their own. They're

727
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: on their own mission. There two more guys real quick,

728
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah for the interviews. Two corners. Mike Hues from Central Florida.

729
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: There you go at that incident as a freshman, that

730
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: where he left North Carolina first round player Duco last

731
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: year showed up at UCF absolutely as a first round

732
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: player on the field. And then Holton Hill corner from Texas.

733
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: First of all, that guy has the drug test at

734
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: the combine. That's step number one. And then it's just

735
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: the interviews and him holding up. He's a another good player. Yeah,

736
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean second round, probably a second round town. Here.

737
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm liking guys and her thieves. I guess I'm a

738
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: white white collar criminal guy, am I You're just you

739
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 1: just like the like you're like, everybody likes a bad

740
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: boy like you. Holton Hill is a good football player.

741
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: You just want you want the satisfaction of taking the

742
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: risk and having it payoff rather than just taking this. Yeah,

743
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm doing radio, rather than just taking

744
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: the safe player. Yeah, I risk reward. I fight. I

745
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: fight for the I fight for the bad guy as

746
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: you were a bad guy too. Oh, I mean there's

747
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I go back. I laugh about John Gruden.

748
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: Remember Derek Alexander. Yeah, yeah, you guys don't like him. Kids,

749
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: he's getting a drinking brod them. That was Gruden when

750
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Derrick Alexander wide receiver Cleveland took him right, Yeah, yeah,

751
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: everybody we were just there was, oh you know this guy. No,

752
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: you don't want him wrong, don't want him wrong, don't

753
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: want him Ron got a drinking problem. No, Gruden, I'm not.

754
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: What do you think about Derek Alexander? Well, you know, Ron,

755
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: I really liked the guy, got him a first round

756
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: grade on him. Ben he's getting a drinking him. Oh

757
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: my god, this is so many drops right now. Yeah, yeah,

758
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see heard that story so many times,

759
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: but this is the first time I think on air

760
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: and I've heard it. Yeah, but that's true. Scouts getting there,

761
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: they start killing these kids. I mean, it's just it's

762
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: it's and then next thing you know, the coaches come

763
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: in and there and the coaches are just seeing football players.

764
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: They're watching the tent. They're going, I don't know what's

765
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't Hey, it's like us when we sit down

766
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: and watch and we can't figure out why why. You know,

767
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: we're doing the draft. We're Day three and like, dang,

768
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: give me your three best guys on the board. And

769
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: he's got a second round grade on a guy. Yeah,

770
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there going, wait a minute, the medical problem,

771
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: red flag alcoholism. Every freaking year, it happens. Yeah, every year.

772
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: Every year, it happens. Every year. You got one more guy.

773
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: That's it for interte trying to do the athlete everyone

774
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, let's do that. Let's do well when

775
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: we come back, let's hit the athletes. We'll do that.

776
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: That would be a good one to do. And then

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00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: we'll do some twitter on the twenty then I promise

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00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,720
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Speaker 1: us on the podcast. However, you're getting this live later,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, hopefully. Again We're always about trying to

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Speaker 1: investigate and educate. We're gonna be from the combine. We'll

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Speaker 1: be with you. We haven't got the times yet. When

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Speaker 1: we will be, it'll probably be more after the in

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Speaker 1: assigned barely late if I yeah, yeah, six o'clock ish, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's in where hour ahead, So we're in the

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Speaker 1: Eastern time zone there. Yeah, I believe we are. I

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Speaker 1: we'll figure out Yeah, thank you Miles, but we will

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Speaker 1: Eastern time zone I believe once again. But yeah, where

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Speaker 1: we will get the times, we'll tweet those out, we'll

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Speaker 1: let everybody know when we're doing. But we're going to

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Speaker 1: be trying to be consistent about that. Shows coming off

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday Thursday. Damn it, Dane, He's right, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: fright Eastern time zone. Right. It's almost like he's gone

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Speaker 1: to this thing thirty times. Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing

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843
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Speaker 1: for you there by the way, I did say two

844
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: reservations already made. But just let Dane finish this. I am,

845
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: I am, but but draft show Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

846
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: and we'll get you the time. Go ahead, Dan finished,

847
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: all right, let's move to athletic. You know the sexy

848
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: part of the combine, or as some people call it,

849
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: the underwear Olympics. Yep. But as one of my mentors,

850
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: Cio Brocado said, if you got dressed a soul, you

851
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: don't value the combine. You just don't know how to

852
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: properly use it. And that's what we're gonna. Got a

853
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: lot of numbers from the agility drills and a few

854
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: guys that need to perform well. I'bout Courtland Sutton, wide

855
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: receiver from SMU. Absolutely a player who is a power

856
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: forward on the football field, big athletic. He's fluid, he

857
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: can make easy adjustments on the ball, how asked is he?

858
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: That's a good question, you know, And I think a

859
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: bigger worries the route running and he just needs to

860
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: become more polished player. And it's a guy who's recruited

861
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: as a safety when he went to SMU, so and

862
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a big jump from the SMU offense

863
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: to whatever team he ends up with. But just how

864
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: fast is he? If he runs under a four, five, five,

865
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: I call out a win. Yeah, he's in the first

866
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: round up. Yeah, yeah, But if he's a four or five,

867
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: eight or higher, then that's when we're thinking probably somewhere

868
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: in the top sixty. And it's amazing that a couple

869
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: tents of a second can matter that much what they do,

870
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: but they will. James Washington kind of similar, a guy

871
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: that did well the Senior Bowl, had an illustrious career

872
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State. Is he a four four guy? Four

873
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: five guy? You know, it's kind of hard to judge

874
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: his speed. We see a separation there down the field,

875
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: and we see that, but it's against big twelve corners. Yeah,

876
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: it's free access. Playing in the big twelve takes it

877
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: tough to gauge speed sometimes what DJ Chark, a guy

878
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, and I've said this before in past shows.

879
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: If he hits that four three one fourth too, like

880
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, could he vault up and possibly sneak enough

881
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: late first round teams looking for that speed. I think

882
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: it's possible. You can't rule it out. Um, who else

883
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: going to talk about? Orlando Brown? Oklahoma, Oklahoma? Heavy feet,

884
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: we know that, but offensive tackle Oklahoma, right, Dad with

885
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: zeus right, not your typical left tackle. He's a big plotter,

886
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: but he still has to test relatively well. Yeah, he

887
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: can be average, he just can't be below average. Yeah,

888
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: the film will be interesting because the film is I

889
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: think is good. The athlete, I mean you're gonna see

890
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: him is. He's not gonna move with any a lot

891
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: of grace. He's one I struggle with because I just

892
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to tackle with heavy feet. Now he's

893
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: able to compensate in ways, but I just go back

894
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: to I do not want to tackle with heavy feet,

895
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: and so it's he's a tough one to figure out.

896
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: Hopefully Combine will help us with that evaluation. Going over

897
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Hercules mad offa a

898
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: player who is a question about him. He's position confusion

899
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: a lot, a man without a home. Yeah. He lined

900
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: up as an interior pass rusher for at Washington State

901
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: and he won because of that first step, initial burst

902
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: where he's able to attack gaps and pretty much end

903
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: up in the backfield before the quarterback and running back

904
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: can do anything about it. How is he going to

905
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: look during you know, rushing off the edge? Can he bend?

906
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Can he drop in space? There are plenty of questions

907
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: about hercules made Offa. If he performs well to combine,

908
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: I think he locks himself up in you know, the

909
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: top sixty picks. He's that type of performer. But if

910
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't perform well, then the questions just are illuminated

911
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: even more about okay, what position is transition? Yeah, so

912
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: a lot of questions about mad Offa. Uh Chemiko Terrey

913
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: guy we talked about with medicals athleticism matter. Vitea can

914
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: the three forty pound or get under five flat in

915
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: the forty I think Vitevea is gonna put on a

916
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: show with what he does. That's amazing. Really it's uh

917
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: don Terry Poe. He waited in at three forty six

918
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: I think, and he ran a four nine eight and

919
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: that put him. I think he was drafted like twelfth

920
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: overall by the Chiefs. Vita Vee is gonna be a

921
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these one techniques are gonna

922
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: are gonna put on a show. I don't think he's

923
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: the only one, you know. I think there's some of

924
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: these guys we've got so not those guys. I mean

925
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: they got like five one two on so not run.

926
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean there's some guys net in the drown. Paine's

927
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: a good as exactly. There might be some guys that

928
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: hit right below five or right at it on some

929
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: of these forty yard dash. These guys, they're freaks. Absolutely.

930
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter, Georgia linebacker. He's gonna test really well, probably

931
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: over forty in the vert fast, the change of directions easy.

932
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: But another guy, where do you play him? Exactly? What's

933
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: is he? I don't think he's a passed rush I

934
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: think he's strong enough. I don't know the powers a

935
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Can he drop and does he have the

936
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: instincts to play in space? A lot of questions about

937
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter, but I don't think there'll be any question

938
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: about his athleticism. And then we get to the corners

939
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: where a lot of these guys are gonna just test

940
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: off the charts. Denzel Ward h Dante Jackson from LSU

941
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: might pick for the fastest forty this ship Jackson, Yeah,

942
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: fastest forty. He might hit the four twos. He's a

943
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: big time athlete. Record center. Oh what's his name? Ross?

944
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: Last year? Yeah, four one seven. I think it hit

945
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: four two one, didn't I don't remember. Yeah, it was

946
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: four two one. I don't think you'll get that, but

947
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: four twos is definitely possible. Tony Brown LSU fans in here,

948
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: Tony Brown corner from Alabama, same type of deal. He's

949
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: a track athlete. He's gonna test really well. And then

950
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: Derwin James. Uh, guy, we expect to Durwin James tests

951
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: real well. You just kiss him goodbye. He's gonna blow up. Yeah,

952
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. If you're a Cowboy fan, you

953
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: need Durwin James just to flop. That would be nice.

954
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 1: I think most Cowboys fans have accepted the fact that

955
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna be there at nineteen. But yeah,

956
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I think the combine is only going to Malie Cooker

957
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be there either right, keep reminding that

958
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: let me dream, Yeah, let me dream. Let me all right, Dane,

959
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I appreciate that. Again. Combine all

960
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: this week Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Dane, part of all

961
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: that will be there for we all week with the interviews,

962
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: content writing about guys every day. Dave, Okay, we got

963
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: about ten minutes to go. We can hit a little

964
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty. Yeah, we do this every year,

965
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: but I think it's important, especially for a combine preview.

966
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: Dustin just wants a refresher on what drills matter for

967
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: which position. So you know your your three cone matters,

968
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: your pass rushers and that type of stuff. I think

969
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: three cone matters for every position. I do too. It's

970
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: that the short shuttle mentioned Ceo Bracado earlier. He created

971
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: the three cone. It just it helps judge a player

972
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: in space, it helps their change direction and maybe besides quarterback,

973
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: I want to see how you know, are they stiff?

974
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean there's no escaping the three cone drill and

975
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: the shuttles. Uh. If you're a stiff athlete, Yeah, you

976
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: won't survive the Oh no, you you will, you will,

977
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: you will know a lot. You will you will get

978
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: exposed if you cannot turn and or you cannot bend

979
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: and turn and have any lateral agility that the three

980
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: cone will kill you. The forty yard dash matters for

981
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: a receiver, I mean in corner. I mean cornerback is

982
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: the stopwatch position because your draft grade and evaluation will

983
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: matter a lot based on how you perform in the

984
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: forty yard dash and some of the other agility drills.

985
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: For pass rushers, I want to know ten yards split, Yeah,

986
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: what's that initial explosion off the line vertical? Do you

987
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: have that lower body explosion? Same with the offensive line

988
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: offensive defensive line too. I think that people like to

989
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: see defensive lining with that ten You know, remember Tom Coughlin,

990
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: He'll be down there time and at the tense. I

991
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: mean that's important to those guys, that initial burst off

992
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: the off the line there. Absolutely. Yeah, Kevin wants to

993
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: know what position group do you think will perform the

994
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: best overall. You know we're dis gushing about the defensive

995
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: tackles or somebody else. I would lean towards the corners

996
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna be blazing. I think Dante

997
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: Jackson could get in the four twos. I think Denzel Ward,

998
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: Ohio State corner is gonna be in the four threes.

999
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: Tony Brown I mentioned, so I think a lot of

1000
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: corners are gonna run really well. But yeah, we mentioned

1001
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, really athletic group. Nathan Shephard, a guy from

1002
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Ford Haye State who we mentioned. I think he's gonna

1003
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: put on a show with what he can do. Big

1004
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, who older prospect, long journey, but here he

1005
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: is on the NFL's doorstep. I think he's gonna have

1006
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: a good week in Indianapolis. What about the tight ends, Yeah,

1007
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: well you see, I mean maybe it's a maybe. Some

1008
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: some athletic guys got Hurst. I finished hurst tape over

1009
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: the weekend. Put a kind of an exclamation point on

1010
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: his profile, his report. My comparison for him, I think

1011
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: you see a lot of Travis Kelsey in his game.

1012
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: There you go, I think, and Travis Kelsey's thank you

1013
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: very much watching the draft show, folks. He's a top

1014
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: five tight end league. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I

1015
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: mean I think that this if you look at Hurst, Godert, yeah,

1016
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: and then then Andrews, you know, we'll see. I mean,

1017
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some guy. I don't know if Andrews

1018
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: will test. I mean, I think he's a four seven

1019
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: nine guy on the but maybe run better than that.

1020
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: But you'll see some guys that I have a feeling

1021
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: Aikins from Central for I mean he's I know, he's

1022
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: a former. I'm just about athletic ability and stuff like

1023
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna jump out of the gym exactly there. There

1024
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: might be that that that might be a group when

1025
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: it's all said and done. You don't normally pay attention

1026
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: to tight ends, but this might be a group that's

1027
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: worth paying to take. I think the tight end that

1028
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: won't test well, it's gonna be Troy fu Mngali and

1029
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: he might be the forgotten guy. And that someone's gonna

1030
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: get a good player on draft. That Lee Washington, Washington. Yeah,

1031
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: Disley from Washington. Another one. I mean, you love that guy.

1032
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: I watched him like, yes, not a week ago, and

1033
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: you won't shut up him. No, But I'm talking about

1034
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: an inline player. Say he's a better blocker than receiver.

1035
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big man. Okay, he runs

1036
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: crossing rounds all day, get it. But I'll tell you what.

1037
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: You put him at wing, you put him in line.

1038
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: You put him on the move. This guy, it's moved

1039
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: on defensive ends. I mean he will hold the point,

1040
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: he will wash. Guy's a road greater he is. That's

1041
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: exactly what he is. If you want to if you

1042
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: want one of those blocking tight ends, I wouldn't be

1043
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: surprised that you would ahead of Fumagali as far as

1044
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: as far as like a blocking guy, think you will. Yeah,

1045
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Nathaniel wants to know. He wants a prediction on who

1046
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: you think is gonna be the biggest overall standout. Is

1047
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: it gonna be a lesser known name who puts himself

1048
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: on the radar like Byron Jones did, Or is it

1049
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that you know, like a Derwin

1050
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: James who was already a well established guy. About Davenport

1051
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: from Yea, Yeah, Marcus Davenport, Marcus Davinest. Well, you know

1052
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: a guy that looks like a defensive end. I think

1053
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: he'll test really well. I agree about Daniels the center

1054
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: from Iowa. Yeah, another guy will probably test well. And

1055
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: you watch the drills, he will look so much smoother

1056
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: than everyone else. By the way, he was number twenty

1057
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 1: overall in my my mock draft to the Lions. A guy,

1058
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: I got him too low and I got him in

1059
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: the second round. Uh, I think he's a first round.

1060
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: He's got to be a first round. I'm gonna miss

1061
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: that one up and still time. I guess he played

1062
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: guard and tackle as a freshman, so I think there

1063
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: is some versatility there. Went back and watched that tape,

1064
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: Kirk Christian Kirk. Yeah, you think he's gonna test that well?

1065
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: I think he could see. There's some people who don't

1066
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: think he will. I don't know if he's I think

1067
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: I think his speed wise will be okay. I think

1068
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: he'll be like the chility stuff. You don't Yeah, I don't.

1069
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't. Is he as sudden for the shuttle drills.

1070
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll find out. Yeah, if you're going

1071
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: to run in the low in the high four threes testing.

1072
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed that Kent Garrison is keeping up with

1073
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: all the names we're just throwing out with his with

1074
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: his good producers. Do any award winner. By the way,

1075
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: I just won't let everybody know Cayden Gates on the Okayden,

1076
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: hey use me, Hey, sorry, sorry out to Kayden in

1077
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: our TV department. He's gonna be award winning guy too.

1078
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, he's the guy came up with

1079
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: all the ideas for our little up. He's a he's

1080
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: a hustler. He has some hustle to him. Okay, speaking

1081
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: of hustlers, but we got we talked about Kirk one

1082
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: more mentions Vita Vea. I think we talked about him obviously.

1083
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: But what he's gonna do at three hundred and forty pounds,

1084
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: I think is just it's rare. He's a unicorn. Can

1085
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: you disagree with me about Armstrong from Kansas? Do you

1086
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: think he does anything? I think you'll have a solid,

1087
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: solid combine. Yeah, he's a he's a basketball player. You

1088
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: know he's he's gonna move well, he's a balanced athlete. Well,

1089
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: people start talking about him. I'm talking about who's a

1090
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: buzz guy. Give me a buzz guy that somebody will

1091
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: talk about. What's gonna hurt Dorn's Willia or Dorance Armstrong is.

1092
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he's gonna be as

1093
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: big with the measurable Yeah, I think you know that.

1094
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Okay, I think the measurables might

1095
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of quell the vibe with him. Um, but yeah,

1096
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: we always have. I mean, especially these pass rushers, Ard

1097
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: and Key. We talked about him. But that guy that

1098
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: could really make a name for himself, Josh Sweat from

1099
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: Florida State. I think he's going to put up big thing.

1100
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: I could be really wrong about him. I'm so intrigued

1101
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: by these D tackles because this is you know, y'all

1102
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: are gushing about these D tackles, but I'm sitting here

1103
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: thinking that's not a position that I really think of.

1104
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: Is like like they don't have a run. You don't

1105
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: have a run on D tackles. They might way you

1106
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: do with receivers. This one might. This might be one

1107
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: if you don't get the right guy. You're thinking, Okay,

1108
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: whoa wait, I lost that ups I lost. You know,

1109
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: that would be amazing because like I mean, I just

1110
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: I can't think of that ever happening where it's just like, okay,

1111
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: here comes the run. D tackles are flying off the board.

1112
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: We thought that was going to happen like what two

1113
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: years ago, I mean a Shawn Robinson and Jaren Reid

1114
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: and that whole group like that, But it was like

1115
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: forty one, forty eight yead it was kind of in there.

1116
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: It's yeah, but it was a little later on than

1117
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: we thought. I guess h and a d tackle we

1118
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,959
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned today. Taven Bryan from Florida. Yeah. You asked

1119
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: the defensive coaches at Florida, they'll tell you that he

1120
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: was the best athlete on the team. Yeah. So I

1121
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to test really well, and you know

1122
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: that could be the extra jolt he needs to make

1123
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: it into the first Buckeye question for you. Dane from

1124
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: John okayh Denzel Ward still a top fifteen pick if

1125
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't measure out well, he's kind of on the

1126
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: short side. We did and we didn't talk about that

1127
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: fourth category, which is the measurements, but he's one of

1128
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: the guys in that category where like if he doesn't

1129
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: hit five ten, right, five ten is kind of the

1130
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: magic number four him. What's Hurst? I mean, I'm not Hurst?

1131
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: What's uh? What's my guy? Hughes the same boat? Yeah?

1132
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Is he? What's Fitzpatrick Minka? Yeah? Is he worried about him?

1133
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: He's Oh. I'm just saying though, but sure, if you

1134
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: depend on where you're playing. He's six foot yeah, six

1135
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: foot Menka is not ye, he's a bigger dude, I

1136
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: mean at least not his And well, so what if

1137
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't hit it, or what if somebody doesn't hit it? Well,

1138
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: I think we're going into the into this combine knowing

1139
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: he's short. You know, I don't so if he comes

1140
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: in it, we're talking Ward, right, yeah, Denzel Ward. I

1141
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: think he needs to at least be close to five ten.

1142
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: If he doesn't hit five, you know, five ten, he

1143
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: needs at least be five o nine six, five o

1144
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: nine seven at least, you know, be a hair off.

1145
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: What's his reach? It does say the length we saw

1146
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: that with you know, Jordan lewis not the Taalst guy,

1147
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: but he had good length to him and Denzel, he

1148
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: needs good length because that's really the only knock against it.

1149
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: He battled Simi Cobbs. We watched that this week. Yeah, yeah,

1150
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: and at Indiana and a couple of times, a couple

1151
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: of times, but yeah, and he was down on the

1152
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: goal line down there. But I mean he'll battle, Oh yeah,

1153
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: for a shorter guy, he will battle. And they they

1154
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: moved him over there, matter of fact to cover cops

1155
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: playing the Golden Play. Devil's advocate for me, like, this

1156
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: is a guy that we widely. I mean, he's universally

1157
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: regarded as a top fifty ten, fifteen pick. Right if

1158
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't I mean, if he doesn't have that length,

1159
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have that height, what type of impact

1160
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: does it have? Well, And some teams have strict policies

1161
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to the cornerbacks, a team that this

1162
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: team used to scout for green Bay, green Bay and

1163
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: this team as well. Buckley did that. But I mean

1164
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: I can't I can't imagine him falling much further than

1165
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: like fifteen or twenty, even if he's got the knocks

1166
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: outful because we saw like Vernon Hargraves go in the

1167
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: top fifteen, a guy that wasn't the biggest at the longest.

1168
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: But you had a problem with Hardgraves, right remember that

1169
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: on the length. Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of Yeah,

1170
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: But I think Den's award. He has the athleticism the

1171
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: makeup for it, and then just to cover skills, the

1172
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: ball skills instincts. Really the only knock against him is

1173
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: the size. But the height is this problem right, well,

1174
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: and we don't know about the length. We'll find out

1175
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: about that. And see that's what Will said. Will McClay said,

1176
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: that he's not so much about high. It's not about

1177
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: the high, it's about the arm len your reach, your

1178
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: ability to disrupt the catch point. That's that's really where

1179
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: it matters, because more often than not, wide receivers are

1180
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: going to tower over corners. But if you have that

1181
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: reach to at least disrupt the catch point, that's all

1182
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: you need to do as a corner. And so for

1183
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: Denzel Award, the measurements were big for him, no doubt

1184
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: there we go. Be good to go. It's eleven o'clock.

1185
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: If y'all want to keep going, we can. Why are

1186
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: Why aren't we talking about Semi Cobbs? By the way,

1187
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Simi Cobbs. We get to the combine,

1188
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: big combine for him. Is he gonna run? Yeah? Is

1189
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: he gonna run? What's he gonna run? You got arrested

1190
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: last summer toom got some nice tape, all right? That

1191
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: went for the draft show for the day, but not

1192
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: the draft show for the week. We'll be back Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

1193
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: Saturday from the combine there in Indianapolis. We'll have everything

1194
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: covered from the morning workouts all the way through the

1195
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: evening and then talk about it at the end of

1196
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: the day. So I want to thank my Scouts, Dame Burglar,

1197
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: David Hellman, Kake Garrison, executive producer, appreciate everybody out there.

1198
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: We'll see you from Indianapolis.