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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, October thirtieth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,
Speaker 1: episode number sixty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,
Speaker 1: we're talking Cowboys football. If you gut for forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: A lot to talk about today. Little stuff that we
Speaker 1: that we kind of threw out yesterday that turned into
Speaker 1: news last night. And oh yeah, I'd say certainly can't
Speaker 1: say that I knew anything or that I don't know. Dave,
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't know something. I didn't know anything going in.
Speaker 1: But Paul Alexander ends up getting the acts yesterday. He
Speaker 1: is no longer with the Dallas Cowboys, relieved of his
Speaker 1: duties as offensive line coach, Mark Colombo promoted to the
Speaker 1: new offensive line coach, and Hudson Howeck a name that
Speaker 1: We've known around here for a long time. I've been
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys organization before for a pretty long stint.
Speaker 1: Twice is it twice is now back in a consultant
Speaker 1: type role. Big question for you guys is I guess
Speaker 1: is this a good move? Is this something that's good
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys At this point, we'll find out. We'll
Speaker 1: find out if if that's the the issue. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's more than than just performance there. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the interview that I did
Speaker 1: and sorry that I was a part of it, wasn't
Speaker 1: wasn't just me, but um, it's that kind of attitude
Speaker 1: that it was like, nothing's wrong, everything's fine, and you're
Speaker 1: talking about interviewing with Alexander and I just think it
Speaker 1: was a clash of philosophy there that not just recently
Speaker 1: but all year and it just it just didn't mesh.
Speaker 1: They thought it would and it didn't. And you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you look at Twitter and you probably your
Speaker 1: Twitter feed the same thing. Well what about Garrett, what
Speaker 1: about Lenahan? Okay, you're not doing all these things. Here
Speaker 1: is the best position on the team, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they're they're underperforming what's what's changed? Frederick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: can't get him back? What's changed? Paul Alexander, Well you
Speaker 1: can change that then, Like, yeah, no, I actually I
Speaker 1: talked about that earlier. Today is like, just spare me
Speaker 1: what this means about Jason Garrett. Like, whatever your opinion
Speaker 1: is about Jason Garrett, you don't fire a guy with
Speaker 1: a winning person a positive winning percentage one game below
Speaker 1: five hundred halfway through the season. Like nobody does that, nobody,
Speaker 1: So spare me. This is a change that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything yesterday, or else I would have
Speaker 1: been way firmer with what I said. I was. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I guess they're not going
Speaker 1: to do it, because honestly, that's the timing that's surprising
Speaker 1: to me, you know, because well, why don't you do
Speaker 1: it during the actual bye week when you're supposedly self
Speaker 1: outing and really evaluating. But you know, to be fair,
Speaker 1: the team's just now getting back today. They weren't here yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yesterday was technically part of the bye week, So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they kind of came to this
Speaker 1: conclusion last week. And I know, and Mark might have
Speaker 1: known and been preparing. There's also which I don't completely
Speaker 1: buy this because Jason Garrett is a close personal friend
Speaker 1: of Clayton Kershaw and Tommy LaSora. But there's plenty of
Speaker 1: speculation that Hudson Howe lives in the LA area, so
Speaker 1: maybe he went out there to have a chat with him.
Speaker 1: And I agree, like I did it over the phone exactly.
Speaker 1: You can't pick up the phone right like, I don't
Speaker 1: believe it. You need to go out there to do that.
Speaker 1: I think it was probably more about wanting to see
Speaker 1: the World Series, but he does live out there. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they were in communication over the weekend, so I
Speaker 1: feel like this is probably something that they thought they
Speaker 1: were going to do, regardless of when they did it.
Speaker 1: I thought the timing was weird, though I would have
Speaker 1: done it before the weekend. But you guys are as
Speaker 1: close at team as anyone had. You guys heard anything
Speaker 1: just just in conversation, and I'm not asking you to
Speaker 1: divulge names or anything, but just in conversations that pointed
Speaker 1: to a feeling of either discontent or just the fact
Speaker 1: that maybe they felt like they weren't getting that players
Speaker 1: maybe weren't or coaches didn't feel like there was enough
Speaker 1: going on there as far as what Paul Alexander was provided. Yes,
Speaker 1: right after he was high, right after he joined the team,
Speaker 1: I had heard that some of the players were not
Speaker 1: really enthused with the higher at all and didn't know
Speaker 1: if he would really help them. Um that right there
Speaker 1: is bad from the start because you know, you know
Speaker 1: how it goes, and just just in life, if you
Speaker 1: already have a bad you know, feeling about something, it's
Speaker 1: hard to even buy in, even if you should be
Speaker 1: doing that. So that was that was the first issue.
Speaker 1: And then then even after this last game, we heard that,
Speaker 1: you know, what they're asking them to do is not
Speaker 1: the same with what they're used to. It's more of
Speaker 1: a reactionary type, you know line than more of attacking.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's because of you know, some of the
Speaker 1: changes you have at in the offensive line, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I don't think that they're doing the same
Speaker 1: type of things. It's different philosophy in the line. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to pretend like I know the
Speaker 1: ins and outs of offensive line play. It might be
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in a football game that I'm the
Speaker 1: most ignorant of, you know, in terms of like the
Speaker 1: actual minutia of how you play offensive line. But I
Speaker 1: do know Alexander plays more power blocking like suited for
Speaker 1: big like the old school Nate Newton style of offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: This is clearly like a more you know, they played zone.
Speaker 1: They were so good at zone. That was what Bill
Speaker 1: Callahan brought here, and this is a smaller, more athletic
Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean, Connor Williams obviously is not like
Speaker 1: your prototypical NFL cart Tyrant Smith. As good as he's been,
Speaker 1: he's not what you think of in terms of the
Speaker 1: build of a gigantic left tackle either. So it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think this will help getting back to what they
Speaker 1: were good at before. My only question is why they
Speaker 1: do it in the first place then, And I think
Speaker 1: you know that's the flip side of that coin as well.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a lot better now that we're going
Speaker 1: back to the old way. Is well, why did you
Speaker 1: think this higher was a good idea in the first place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that's a good point. And also
Speaker 1: the same reason why you do it is the same
Speaker 1: reason why you shouldn't be that excited about it. And
Speaker 1: I say this because you don't ever quit a job
Speaker 1: if you don't have something else in play. You don't
Speaker 1: ever fire someone if you don't have someone else in play.
Speaker 1: And Mark Collombo was obviously here ready to do that.
Speaker 1: But I really doubt that Mark Collombo, sitting in the
Speaker 1: room going God, would have done all the desk or
Speaker 1: would have done I mean, maybe a couple times, but
Speaker 1: I don't think a huge philosophy change there. Yes, he
Speaker 1: can come in and try some new things, but I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think it's going to be this complete. I
Speaker 1: did talk to Nate this more because I had that
Speaker 1: similar kind of question. Nate Newton, who works on Hanging
Speaker 1: with the Boys. He's played line before, he's played line before.
Speaker 1: It very pretty decent. Dabbing it led, He dabbled in it,
Speaker 1: And my question was like, is this something we can
Speaker 1: expect significant change? Like does a coach bring that much
Speaker 1: to the table. He said, well, the way he views it,
Speaker 1: he looks at this offensive line, he says, I think
Speaker 1: that the way they played under Paul Alexander was much
Speaker 1: more of a passive style of offensive offensive line play. Basically,
Speaker 1: their their job was kind of to take a couple
Speaker 1: of steps back, give ground to be able to then
Speaker 1: try to adjust and react to what's coming at them.
Speaker 1: He said, Back when they played and even when you
Speaker 1: had guys like Bill Callahan here and they were always aggressive,
Speaker 1: it was always about take the punch to them. Don't
Speaker 1: sit back, don't give up ground at all, don't the
Speaker 1: goal was never to give ground in order to do anything.
Speaker 1: You're not catching guys, You're more attacking them. And so
Speaker 1: he says, I if Mark Colombo, which he thinks he is,
Speaker 1: if Mark Colombo is more on the side of I
Speaker 1: want to be more aggressive as far as my offensive
Speaker 1: line is concerned. And he starts giving them that those
Speaker 1: kinds of techniques and working with them on those kind
Speaker 1: of techniques and really giving them the license to be
Speaker 1: a lot more aggressive, then it could make a big difference.
Speaker 1: And it could make a big difference really quickly, because
Speaker 1: these guys have done it before. Right a weekend for
Speaker 1: Colombo just thought of that. I mean, he is a
Speaker 1: die hard Boston Red Sox fan, like, oh is big time,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah time. Yeah. He One time on the bus
Speaker 1: he just said to me, He's like, did just he
Speaker 1: who's pitching to night? I'm just like, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't think Pedro's on the team. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, he's all you know, he's just talking all
Speaker 1: about it. I'm just like, okay, I don't really know
Speaker 1: or care, but he's really he's six eight and three
Speaker 1: three twenty and so I'm just like's not through twenty anymore. Now,
Speaker 1: he's not. He's a basketball there now, I mean he's
Speaker 1: still he's six eight, two sixties. The difference though, two
Speaker 1: sixty three eight and half of me, that's that's Lebron James,
Speaker 1: like six eight, two sixties Lebron. So he's a big.
Speaker 1: He's a big two sixties. He's probably two eighties. He's
Speaker 1: probably two sixty. Then. I don't know. I would think
Speaker 1: maybe I don't have the guys weight memorized, but he's Lebron.
Speaker 1: Let's say two thirty. No, not at his height. He
Speaker 1: would have to be a bean pole to be. Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant is two thirty and he looks like a twig.
Speaker 1: Now I'd say he's probably two fifty, two sixties. What
Speaker 1: I would just two thirty No way, okay, whatever, all right, anyway,
Speaker 1: according to hist there we go. Wikipedia can trust that
Speaker 1: can go change. I'll check the Lakers roster just two
Speaker 1: fifty two sixty. He's a big dude. Whatever, we're sidetracked,
Speaker 1: you know what. You're right, yeah, that saw opening nineties.
Speaker 1: He's a big dude. He's kind of that jersey kept
Speaker 1: he kept pull pulling it out a little bit, all right.
Speaker 1: So all in all, you guys don't think this is
Speaker 1: a good move for the Cowboys. It's something you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, well, we'll find out, but I mean
Speaker 1: they get criticized for another team to make a trade,
Speaker 1: like why didn't the Cowboys do that? Why didn't they
Speaker 1: do that? Why didn't they go get Josh Gordon? Why
Speaker 1: didn't they go get whatever? You know what, they're making moves,
Speaker 1: and they're making moves for probably right now and down
Speaker 1: the road. You know what if if Mark Cooper he's
Speaker 1: gonna be the receiver, the number one receiver for a
Speaker 1: few years. And Mark Colombo, if things go well and
Speaker 1: they you know, pick this up a little bit, he's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be the offensive line coach. So this is
Speaker 1: this is one of those things where it's it's a
Speaker 1: band aid type thing now and it might lead to
Speaker 1: down the road things as well. I just I think
Speaker 1: it would be a mistake to assume the same thing
Speaker 1: with Amari Cooper. You're crazy if you think this is
Speaker 1: just going to be a magic pill that makes everything better.
Speaker 1: But it's a minor tweak where you don't have to
Speaker 1: like overhaul or give up on the season. That gives
Speaker 1: you hope that they can play better. And that's they
Speaker 1: only need to be a little bit better, right They
Speaker 1: only you know, same thing with the receivers and only
Speaker 1: need to be a little bit better to make it
Speaker 1: work a lot better than it has been. So if
Speaker 1: you scored two more times a game, a touchdown in
Speaker 1: a field goal a game, I mean, and that's that's
Speaker 1: a lot, but I mean, you know that's that's one
Speaker 1: in every half where the drive did it install? For
Speaker 1: whatever the reason, you get this team ten more points
Speaker 1: a game. You know they have a different record, And
Speaker 1: you know, you could say that about a lot of teams,
Speaker 1: but I think I think you got to apply to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for what they're doing here. They're not giving
Speaker 1: up on the season. They know they're there. And I
Speaker 1: talked to Stephen Jones last week. Last thing he said
Speaker 1: was I like our team. I really like our team,
Speaker 1: and I think we have a shot. So you know,
Speaker 1: they've gone and they've made some moves. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you look at the thing overall, they're really only two
Speaker 1: other areas where, at least from what you hear from
Speaker 1: fans and from media, two other areas that you would
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys even where their problems lie. The quarterback
Speaker 1: is one of them, and the offensive coordinator is another.
Speaker 1: They're not changing the quarterback at this point, not right
Speaker 1: now for sure, and it doesn't seem like they're They're
Speaker 1: very prone right now to make a decision that would
Speaker 1: change who's gonna be causing I'll call in the offensive place.
Speaker 1: But they addressed the offensive line, which has been a problem,
Speaker 1: and they addressed their ability to run the ball, which
Speaker 1: is now being hampered because they're not getting anything on
Speaker 1: the passing game by bringing in Amari Cooper. So, at
Speaker 1: least from that standpoint, the things that most people think
Speaker 1: are the issues, they've addressed a couple of them, and
Speaker 1: hopefully that makes a difference for the other two that
Speaker 1: they did not address. Maybe according to some people sufficiently,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our first break when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna finally get to the topic of change. Is
Speaker 1: something we're carrying over from last week Paul Alexander obviously
Speaker 1: was a big change. We have a few others and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out to you guys, and I want
Speaker 1: to get your opinions on whether you think that their
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Speaker 1: This is the second segment of The Break live from
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Talking Change. Cowboys make a big move yesterday and make
Speaker 1: a big move last week. A couple of big moves. Here,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a couple of other moves that
Speaker 1: could Some of them could be big, some of them
Speaker 1: could be small. But just things that we think are
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say possibilities, but just things that
Speaker 1: exist out in the ether that could be possible changes
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys could make here coming off there bye
Speaker 1: week that may or may not be able to help them.
Speaker 1: Last week, we talked about a couple We talked about
Speaker 1: changing the offensive play caller from Lenahan to Garrett. We
Speaker 1: also talked about Lyle to guard and Connor Williams to
Speaker 1: write tackle. So let's get into a couple of these
Speaker 1: other ones. Let's mover to the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: The first one I'm gonna throw at you guys before
Speaker 1: you say that, I just want to say this, if
Speaker 1: and I don't know this, but if you're gonna change
Speaker 1: the old line, coach, I mean, Colombo could be sitting
Speaker 1: here thinking that that's exactly what they need to do.
Speaker 1: So I doubt I doubt that we'll see Collins flipping
Speaker 1: with with Connor Williams. But when you are talking about
Speaker 1: a change, he's he's the new coach. He's got to
Speaker 1: do something different here. So I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: we see something. It could be a philosophy change. I
Speaker 1: doubt it's that, but I'm just saying before we just
Speaker 1: completely we addressed it last week. Things have changed. Now
Speaker 1: he's got to do something. But I would guess. I
Speaker 1: mean that's I was joking about that on Twitter yesterday.
Speaker 1: That for me would be as easy as just being like,
Speaker 1: close those playbooks we gave you in April. We're not
Speaker 1: doing that stuff anymore, and there's your philosophy change right there.
Speaker 1: I'm just that's true. Maybe mean he was here for
Speaker 1: the he's been here. He's been here since sixteen he
Speaker 1: was I mean, he's been around here. He knows he's
Speaker 1: been here longer than that. But he's been part of
Speaker 1: the offensive line room for the last two years. And
Speaker 1: I think the other part to be factored in here
Speaker 1: is he is a former offensive lineman of former offensive
Speaker 1: lineman here. I think sometimes when you're coaching what you played,
Speaker 1: there is a level of empathy, so you know when
Speaker 1: you're asking a guy to do a certain thing. They
Speaker 1: brought this up. I thought it was a really great point.
Speaker 1: He said, there's some games you get into or the
Speaker 1: guy you're playing against technique. It's nice staff technique, and
Speaker 1: you want to always emphasize technique, but there's some dog
Speaker 1: fights you get in where it's just like keep your
Speaker 1: quarterback clean. And a guy that's played the position will
Speaker 1: have that level of empathy to not hound on a
Speaker 1: guy when he's on the sideline if his technique isn't right,
Speaker 1: but he's keeping the guy off his quarterback and say,
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. We'll figure it out next week. Right.
Speaker 1: And not only that, but this guy Colombo played the
Speaker 1: game like a street fight every single snap, like he
Speaker 1: played it that way, right, So maybe maybe if you're
Speaker 1: in your rookies ear about technique technique technique on the sideline,
Speaker 1: maybe that does more damage to him than by than
Speaker 1: just saying, look, man, right now, you need to survive
Speaker 1: this game, keep him off your quarterback, figure it out right,
Speaker 1: And so maybe him being a former offensive line helps
Speaker 1: with that kind of communication that helps your offensive line
Speaker 1: play a little better in game. I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: what this does for Lyle Collins. I mean, Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: is Tyron Smith, like I have a hard time believe
Speaker 1: in like he was gonna do. He's gonna do what's
Speaker 1: been working for him. I would assume, you know, he's
Speaker 1: got the All Pros and the Pro Bowls to go
Speaker 1: along with that to where kind of like Zach Martin,
Speaker 1: he almost functions independent of scheme in my opinion. You know,
Speaker 1: but Lyle Collins is still a young, developing guy. How
Speaker 1: much did this new philosophy that Paul Alexander brought in
Speaker 1: hurt him? And how quickly can he get away from
Speaker 1: it if that is what was hurting his game? I
Speaker 1: don't know. And the fact that he's still developing is
Speaker 1: what makes that interesting. So I mean, it would be
Speaker 1: fascinating if he just shoots right back up to where
Speaker 1: he was in December of last year, that would be
Speaker 1: very telling. But I feel like it'll be a little
Speaker 1: easier said than done. Yeah, And that also when you
Speaker 1: say it that it made me think of another point
Speaker 1: for Connor Williams, that does this throw him off? Like
Speaker 1: we don't consume it and consider that part, But when
Speaker 1: you put a different person in his ear mid season
Speaker 1: as a young guy just learning the NFL ropes, does
Speaker 1: that throw him off now because he's now thinking too
Speaker 1: much because maybe what he's being told now is different
Speaker 1: than what he's been told And maybe, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things the factor in here, and we
Speaker 1: won't know until we actually see it in practice and
Speaker 1: see them play, see if they get better over these
Speaker 1: next few weeks. And that's I wouldn't assume that they're
Speaker 1: just going to magically be the Great Wall of Dallas,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's probably going to be a
Speaker 1: mixed bag at least at first. All right, I'll give
Speaker 1: you this next change. It's on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball Byron Jones. He's been really good by some estimates,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking him at some of the sites that
Speaker 1: actually rate players at different positions based upon their play.
Speaker 1: I know, as of a couple weeks ago, he was
Speaker 1: the highest rated cornerback in the NFL. Now take that
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, because there are a lot
Speaker 1: of factors into that. But it doesn't seem like defenses
Speaker 1: are necessarily throwing at him as frequently as they're throwing
Speaker 1: at other guys in the Cowboys secondary. That being said,
Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys should consider the possibility of
Speaker 1: taking Byron Jones in each week, maybe traveling him with
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver from the other team, so it
Speaker 1: forces teams to make a decision, are you going to
Speaker 1: avoid throwing at him if that's what's actually happening, and
Speaker 1: that means you got to avoid your best wide receiver
Speaker 1: or do that? Does that force him into throwing at
Speaker 1: Byron Jones and maybe give Byron Jones a few more
Speaker 1: opportunities to make some plays on the ball. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it in all weeks. I don't think you need
Speaker 1: to do it this week against Tennessee. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: you've got Atlanta coming up in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: and that they've got a clear cut number one, so
Speaker 1: maybe you try it. Then that's also, by the way,
Speaker 1: big and long, right, so that may help having Byron
Speaker 1: who's also very long. Yeah. You know the thing about
Speaker 1: it though, and I always said this about players, that
Speaker 1: you know, when a guy travels, it's also the other
Speaker 1: guy has to travel as well. So is he capable
Speaker 1: of doing that? Is that you know Cheeto? If Cheeto
Speaker 1: capable of playing both sides as well, it's not just
Speaker 1: one guy, And then are you going to help him?
Speaker 1: And you just have to change the way you want
Speaker 1: to play thing on defense. I'm not saying you don't
Speaker 1: do it. I think you probably picked your spots at
Speaker 1: times when you want to do it. And I think
Speaker 1: that they have done that. Actually, when who was it
Speaker 1: they played when they played um? It seems like a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when when they played somebody that
Speaker 1: they put him on UM they played Jacksonville. Wouldn't mean
Speaker 1: anybody for Jacksonville. I remember we talked about this. It
Speaker 1: was like a tight end or something like that. We
Speaker 1: talked about when he's over there, Byron Jones should be
Speaker 1: playing against him, and he was I can't remember who
Speaker 1: it was though, who was before Detroit, Seattle? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm drawing a big blank. I just remember talking about
Speaker 1: I would put Byron on this guy, and then that's
Speaker 1: actually kind of what they did. I can't remember who
Speaker 1: it was though. Rod Marinelli and Christopher Shard both are
Speaker 1: not known for doing that. Like Rod's always true. I
Speaker 1: thought Christmas, I thought when Chris was with Richard, Sherman
Speaker 1: never left the left side and Seattle, really I thought
Speaker 1: he did travel. He's not a traveling cornerback. Okay, He's
Speaker 1: like I mean, Jason Garrett loves to say that when
Speaker 1: they play those cover three schemes. This is paraphrasing. It's
Speaker 1: like they're gonna do what they what they do. They're
Speaker 1: gonna play their guys where they play them and demand
Speaker 1: that you beat him. Sherman and I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: when Sherman was really at the peak of his powers
Speaker 1: in like twenty thirteen fourteen, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: debate about like him and Patrick Peterson, like, oh, Peterson
Speaker 1: travels and he'll take the best guy, and Sherman just
Speaker 1: stays on the left side. So clearly Sherman's not as
Speaker 1: good and blah blah blah. That's not what cover three
Speaker 1: schemes typically do. And Rod Marinelli is notorious for you know,
Speaker 1: he just wants to execute what he wants to do
Speaker 1: well rather than mix and match and switch it all up. So,
Speaker 1: regardless of what I think, I would be pretty surprised
Speaker 1: if they started doing that, especially since what they've been
Speaker 1: doing has worked way more often than it hasn't. All right,
Speaker 1: let's stick with the cornerbacks. Let's talk about Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. I think he's kind of been up and
Speaker 1: down this year. I mean, you guys can give your
Speaker 1: own assessment of how you think he's played. But I
Speaker 1: do wonder if there's a possibility at some point the
Speaker 1: Cowboys consider putting Jordan Lewis in that spot as the
Speaker 1: as the as the starting slot corner for the team
Speaker 1: or the guy that comes in as the third corner
Speaker 1: in those situations, What do you guys think? I just
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, they drafted him to kind
Speaker 1: of get on the field, Jordan Lewis and play. He's
Speaker 1: got the body type you would think to play inside.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why he didn't beat out Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: I mean, he kind of plays on the outside, and
Speaker 1: so when he plays when Lewis is an outside corner
Speaker 1: and he's smaller than that, he's gonna be limited. I
Speaker 1: think he's had the opportunity to be an inside a
Speaker 1: slot guy and he doesn't do it as well as Brown.
Speaker 1: So if they want to try it again, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I think he's playing with more confidence now. I was
Speaker 1: talking about Lewis. This might be a good time to
Speaker 1: try it. But I know that it's been their preference
Speaker 1: to have those three guys as the cornerbacks, and it
Speaker 1: didn't happen in training camp, and so if he's better now,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I mean, I know that they tried
Speaker 1: and it hasn't worked. I'm gonna do my best key impression.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize how. I haven't looked at it
Speaker 1: since the bye week. Dallas is third against the pass.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Ken, I appreciate that. And was
Speaker 1: it actually Kin? Don't you know that that's that's Mickey?
Speaker 1: I remember I was on the show when he did Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. Sorry, they're third in they're third in the
Speaker 1: league against the pass? Like what why are you trying
Speaker 1: to make all these drastic changes? Like they have four
Speaker 1: he does they have two? Are they have two above
Speaker 1: average cornerbacks. I'm trying. I'm trying to get through this, y'all.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go. They have two above average cornerbacks
Speaker 1: and they are third and fourth cornerbacks. Haven't been as
Speaker 1: good as you would hope, but they're still probably above
Speaker 1: average league average wise. Um. And you know, even when
Speaker 1: when Jordan Lewis kind of got this break, I even
Speaker 1: asked him, I was like, has it been hard to
Speaker 1: sit back and play like two snaps? And he's you know,
Speaker 1: christ Shard called him their relief pitcher. Like you need
Speaker 1: a guy like that, You need a guy who can
Speaker 1: come off and play when he needs to. And so
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown hasn't been great. Jordan Lewis has also had
Speaker 1: his slip ups. Like whatever, I'm not I don't care
Speaker 1: about switching it up. Like the result overall has been very,
Speaker 1: very good, so drastic changes don't seem like they're needed.
Speaker 1: You feel the same about the safety position, Like I
Speaker 1: know at the beginning of the season we were talking
Speaker 1: a lot about Earl Thomas. But at this point, do
Speaker 1: you feel like the safety position has hindered this defense
Speaker 1: or do you feel like it's all kind of shakes,
Speaker 1: it's all kind of leveled out, and they're playing within
Speaker 1: the context of the overall defense, and that's been good.
Speaker 1: I think it's been pretty good. But if you look
Speaker 1: at who they've played, even the games that they've lost,
Speaker 1: I mean Russell, Russell Wilson, I mean Alex Smith, they've
Speaker 1: been tested a little bit down the field, especially in
Speaker 1: Seattle they gave up a touchdown, but they haven't been
Speaker 1: tested a lot. And I think that when you go
Speaker 1: up against Atlanta, maybe even Philly with Carson Wentz, you know,
Speaker 1: New Orleans is coming, I mean, they're gonna get tests
Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah, definitely. I mean, and really Indianapolis, take
Speaker 1: a look at what they're doing. They're throwing the ball around.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So I just feel like they haven't really
Speaker 1: been tested a whole lot. They've been playing okay, but
Speaker 1: they hadn't been a whole lot of those shootout games.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting point because you even think about a
Speaker 1: team like Tampa Bay have a Bay could throw it around,
Speaker 1: especially now they're going back to Fitzpatrick. They were slinging
Speaker 1: it around the beginning of season. So you've got a
Speaker 1: lot of teams coming up here down the final stretch
Speaker 1: of the season, during the second half of seasons, that
Speaker 1: are going to throw the ball a lot. That's not
Speaker 1: gonna help him much. I mean, what do you mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think Fitzpatrick. He reminds me of other backup
Speaker 1: quarterbacks over the years for the Cowboys. When he comes in,
Speaker 1: things are okay. But when you really scheme and game
Speaker 1: playing him. Yeah, let's be clear. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 1: about to change the fortune. What I am saying, though,
Speaker 1: is he will throw the ball, and he will throw
Speaker 1: the ball down field. Might not even be the quarterback.
Speaker 1: By December twenty third, he might be the quarterback again.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, exactly. The safeties have not been as bad
Speaker 1: as I thought they were, but I yeah, I tend
Speaker 1: to lean more toward thinking it's just favorable matchups at
Speaker 1: this point because they I did the numbers on this
Speaker 1: earlier in the season, Like, they've given up almost as
Speaker 1: many chunk touchdowns so far this season they did all
Speaker 1: of the years where they've been playoff contenders, you know,
Speaker 1: two against Detroit, one against Seattle. Safety. I know Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown misplayed the ball to DeAndre Hopkins in that game,
Speaker 1: but mistackle by Xavier Woods is what allowed it to
Speaker 1: get them into field goal range. So no, it hasn't
Speaker 1: been great. The thing with that is what can you do?
Speaker 1: And that was always That's always been my problem with
Speaker 1: the safety thing is they didn't really give themselves a
Speaker 1: lot of options as far as fixing it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got what you got three hours still the trade
Speaker 1: deadline and your first round picks gone, like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what they're supposed to do. So Xavier Woods and
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath have been fine and they're probably just gonna
Speaker 1: have to hope it stays that way. Would you trade
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick to Seattle to get to get
Speaker 1: the rights for all at this point? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money in your cap for a
Speaker 1: guy that's not playing. But I mean they got the money, No,
Speaker 1: why not? I don't. I don't think Seattle would do
Speaker 1: it for at this They're gonna get nothing from him,
Speaker 1: that's I think them so, and he can they can't
Speaker 1: play now anyone and especially as a matter of comp's
Speaker 1: gonna be better than the seventh round that they would
Speaker 1: get in the trade match. The comping, No, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do for a guy that can't play who if he
Speaker 1: wants to be here, which he says he does, let
Speaker 1: him be a free agent and then let him come here.
Speaker 1: You don't have to give up anything. And they're not
Speaker 1: gonna not gonna play him this year, so they're not
Speaker 1: gonna franchise a thirty year old. You have the ability,
Speaker 1: you would have the ability to resign him first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what I'm saying is if if as he says,
Speaker 1: he wants to come here, it's very clear he's not
Speaker 1: going to be in Seattle, so he will be a
Speaker 1: free agent most and most likely, if he's a free
Speaker 1: agent and he wants to come here, you have to
Speaker 1: give up nothing, and you're basically just you give him
Speaker 1: a contract that makes sense, that he likes, you like,
Speaker 1: and he's here coming off an injury at thirty or
Speaker 1: thirty one, and we've seen what the NFL thinks of
Speaker 1: safeties in the last two years. He'll probably will be
Speaker 1: in like a tyro in Matthew situation where a couple
Speaker 1: of years, he'll year he's on Matthews on a one
Speaker 1: year I know, but yeah, one or two years and
Speaker 1: he'll have you know, he'll have ten or fifteen offers
Speaker 1: and he can take the one he wants, So no,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up anything for him at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and move on to actually's sick,
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Speaker 1: get to change, Nick, give us a little message here, Hey,
Speaker 1: you need to go to the Star today. Five o'clock
Speaker 1: in the five to seven. There's two shows out there,
Speaker 1: two live shows, one of them being the Cowboys Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: I'll be on that one today. Dave will be on there,
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. It will be in the Ford Center. In
Speaker 1: the Ford Center, it'll be in that whole area over there,
Speaker 1: you know, throw the ball around. But six o'clock hour,
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Speaker 1: is free. Get there. They'll sign some autographs. I believe
Speaker 1: they'll do a little bit autograph signing. Did you really
Speaker 1: just say that I think they will, right, I think
Speaker 1: that's some of you would say. I just think like,
Speaker 1: let's hold off on saying that they do they sign on.
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Speaker 1: some pictures, there'll be some great shows, great commentaries. If
Speaker 1: you've never been able to hear those two together, it
Speaker 1: should be good commenties like we're gonna be the pregame
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Speaker 1: think you will be leaving at five fifty, Like all right,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any more about Dave has
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Speaker 1: beat the traffic wells on the Happy Hour today Again,
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour day you and Nate's on there. So it's
Speaker 1: really like hanging with the boys. We'll just be hanging
Speaker 1: with the boys to wow. Yeah, you're right, that's okay.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna have food? I'd be awesome and I
Speaker 1: don't think so not because we're in the Ford Center,
Speaker 1: so that food of hot ducks good point. So maybe
Speaker 1: I should go and get you got some hot dogs
Speaker 1: and bring them over. Hey, does that work? I thought
Speaker 1: I exacted? Okay, yeah, okay, I thought this was the
Speaker 1: happy hour you drink beer and food an happy hour.
Speaker 1: But that's you're right, depends on what happy hour you
Speaker 1: going to. It's fine, all right, this is not a
Speaker 1: food happy hour, okay, or a drink happy hour. Sounds awesome,
Speaker 1: It does sound awesome. Great, all right, all right, let's
Speaker 1: jump back here. We got a couple more I wanted
Speaker 1: to hit you guys with a couple more changes, Dave,
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna love this one. Who how about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys use more ten personnel versus eleven personnel? Now
Speaker 1: that they have this new great wide receiving option in
Speaker 1: the building. And Jeff Swain injured last game, maybe he's out.
Speaker 1: I think finally, maybe we see a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a difference to ten verses eleven. Why would you
Speaker 1: bring this up? Why would you do this to me?
Speaker 1: I just I know how much you love it. The
Speaker 1: answers no, Actually the answer is no you shouldn't or
Speaker 1: no they won't. They won't like But that's there are
Speaker 1: two questions here. But should they? And then well they
Speaker 1: that's I can talk to him. I'm blue in the
Speaker 1: face about all the reasons why I think they should,
Speaker 1: But who cares if they're not going to do. That's
Speaker 1: why people tune in, because they do care about your opinion.
Speaker 1: You're paid to be an analyst. I would love it,
Speaker 1: I think, especially when you add Amari Cooper to this group.
Speaker 1: Like your tight ends. Jeff Swam has played, he has
Speaker 1: played admirably. I think that's the word I would use.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been great, but admirably. But tight end is
Speaker 1: still a weak point on this roster. Jeff Swam might
Speaker 1: not also be able to even play in this game
Speaker 1: depending on his knee. So between Cooper, Beasley, Gallop, and
Speaker 1: I would throw in Alan Hearns. I think you've got
Speaker 1: four pretty capable wide receivers. You got one of the
Speaker 1: best running backs in the game. I would love to
Speaker 1: make defenses have to go small to defend you and
Speaker 1: exploit that mismatch. I don't think the Cowboys will do it,
Speaker 1: though I clearly agree. I think we when we say
Speaker 1: it all the time about offensive lineman, get your best
Speaker 1: guys out on the field, you know, and I think
Speaker 1: it should be the same here. I mean, when you're
Speaker 1: looking at the tight end position. Those guys are listed
Speaker 1: as tight ends, but they're not. They don't really help
Speaker 1: you that much. It's not like you have this great
Speaker 1: advantage of them blocking. You know, if you had complete
Speaker 1: tight ends like Gronk is, like Witten was, then yeah,
Speaker 1: you can do everything that you want to do with them.
Speaker 1: But just having Sholts out there and having Jarwin out
Speaker 1: there doesn't mean hey, they can go deep or they
Speaker 1: can stay in and block. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1: They're not they're not at that level yet. So I
Speaker 1: think your best guys or those receivers he just mentioned,
Speaker 1: you have Zeke in there, you spread them out, you
Speaker 1: can run the ball. I like it. And that's something
Speaker 1: I asked Jason Garrett about this personally, and it goes
Speaker 1: back to what I said about Rob Marinelli and Christopher
Speaker 1: shard Is, like, well, you know, if something's not working,
Speaker 1: if if if your tight ends aren't playing as well
Speaker 1: as you'd like and they're not blocking as well as
Speaker 1: you like, you have two choices between you switch it
Speaker 1: up and do stuff like play more ten personnel because
Speaker 1: that suits your strengths more, or do you just try
Speaker 1: to make it work with what you want to do
Speaker 1: and hope that the time on task gets them better,
Speaker 1: and that's all around. That is typically the Cowboys strategy
Speaker 1: is we gotta work harder at what we want to
Speaker 1: do rather than we've got to change and do something else.
Speaker 1: We can say whatever we want to, but we know
Speaker 1: that that the that drafting players buys them at an
Speaker 1: opportunity to stay here longer. Um. And I think that
Speaker 1: the draft drafting Schultz has really kind of affected them
Speaker 1: to the point where they have to keep them. They
Speaker 1: almostly they almost have to play him a lot, and
Speaker 1: he's not ready and you're not going to give up
Speaker 1: on him, but he hasn't really done a whole lot
Speaker 1: for you to to justify him being out there. They
Speaker 1: still like something. They like the size of Jarwin. That's
Speaker 1: really all that there is to like right now about him.
Speaker 1: Um And maybe you know potential and then you got Rico.
Speaker 1: You got potential there and his size. It's just it's
Speaker 1: just a bunch of different things to sort of like.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's nobody's really worthy of saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I need to put them out there and play. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's a position they need to address something now.
Speaker 1: I mean today, real a teaser for tomorrow show because
Speaker 1: I don't want to give it away, but I'm been
Speaker 1: doing some research about personnel groupings because the Titans are
Speaker 1: very similar to the Cowboys in the way they like
Speaker 1: to play offense. I was surprised, like damn near, like
Speaker 1: nobody in the NFL really uses ten personnel more than
Speaker 1: as like an occasional gimmick, which I thought was kind
Speaker 1: of weird, Like I thought there would at least be
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a team in the league that
Speaker 1: uses it more than ten percent of the time, So
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm wrong, And I would say eleven is
Speaker 1: probably eleven is a forty percent of the offense across
Speaker 1: the board. Eleven is everybody's favorite, and actually, which finds
Speaker 1: something you're good at doing and doing. The Rams run
Speaker 1: eleven like ninety six percent of the time. I would
Speaker 1: imagine the Lions do it a lot too, the Lions. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think the Lions run ten more than anybody else,
Speaker 1: which but they run eleven most of the time as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway, so it's interesting to see, you know, how
Speaker 1: NFL teams value that stuff, And like I said, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: just for Jerry Madeline out there, who might be, you know, listening,
Speaker 1: Just real quick, ten and eleven, So it's real quick
Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know Jerry Madelon, he's
Speaker 1: a guy that helps make sure our guys are developing
Speaker 1: as on air person it is always tell this. Make
Speaker 1: sure you tell everybody what you're talking. It's about it's football.
Speaker 1: It's football speak specifically for the sake of football seak. Like,
Speaker 1: you could just say three receiver, four receiver, but it
Speaker 1: makes you sound smarter if you say ten and eleven personnel.
Speaker 1: So the first number is run. First numbers running back,
Speaker 1: second numbers tight end. So then you just surmise what
Speaker 1: the receiver and then the receivers are a given because
Speaker 1: there's only so many guys left on the field. So
Speaker 1: if you're running eleven personnel, that's one receiver, one running back,
Speaker 1: one tight end, which leads three receivers. Ten personnel is
Speaker 1: one running back and no tight ends, which is four receivers.
Speaker 1: Thirteen personnel would be one running back and three tight ends, twelve, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: That's worth the mickey. Get ready because we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: a lot about twelve and thirteen personnel tomorrow when we
Speaker 1: talk about the Titans, So I do a lot of that,
Speaker 1: a lot of that. Okay, anyway, So actually sticking with
Speaker 1: tight end, that's actually the last question I have for you, guys.
Speaker 1: Let's assume, for the sake of this conversation that Jeff
Speaker 1: Swiam does not play this week. Would you guys consider
Speaker 1: the possibility of either making him the starter or giving
Speaker 1: him the majority of the reps a tight end one
Speaker 1: reco gap. Yeah. I think I think when he comes
Speaker 1: down to I think we said this last week. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he will probably be the starter. I think
Speaker 1: he's the best blocker you've got right now. He's not
Speaker 1: the best route runner, but I think he can make
Speaker 1: some plays down the field. I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: he does start. And I'm not just saying start the
Speaker 1: game because they go with twelve or thirteen. I mean
Speaker 1: I actually start. So it wouldn't surprise me at all
Speaker 1: if he did. That. Give him my choices, Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: we kind of limited on where you are right now,
Speaker 1: and that's right now. I'm watching the practice reports starting
Speaker 1: on Thursday to see what Swain's doing. Jerry Jones said
Speaker 1: this morning that they feel good that he Gregory and
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin are the two guys he mentioned. Tavon's out
Speaker 1: and then Gregory's a guy to watch. But I don't
Speaker 1: think he mentioned Swains, so maybe there's a chance he
Speaker 1: could be ready to go. It's something to watch. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's unavailable, bull, why not? I mean,
Speaker 1: I have not seen anything from Blake Jarwin that gets
Speaker 1: me excited. And then Dalton Schultz obviously is a working
Speaker 1: ProRes So yeah, Rico time, let's go. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get your phone call from Chris and Connecticut. Chris, what up? Hey, guys?
Speaker 1: He speak with you? You too. I wanted to say,
Speaker 1: I really this is listening for a very long time,
Speaker 1: and really enjoy your objectivity and really appreciate that. Thank
Speaker 1: you your insight. Um, there's about thirty things I could
Speaker 1: questions I could ask you, but I got a limited
Speaker 1: to one right, So, UM, at this point in time,
Speaker 1: I guess my question for you is um, And it's
Speaker 1: partly a statement, is that you know my frustration with
Speaker 1: the with Lenahan and Garret and that just are they
Speaker 1: are they stubborn or are they just incapable of making
Speaker 1: I mean, not only can they not make real time adjustments.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem during the game, but even at halftime,
Speaker 1: it seems they're always getting out coached. It was the
Speaker 1: same scripts almost every game second half of the season
Speaker 1: last year, where they get scored on right before halftime
Speaker 1: kick off the ball because they were so stubborn they
Speaker 1: wouldn't never defer. It took them a year to finally
Speaker 1: stop doing that and then get scored on and you know,
Speaker 1: the game flips like in a two to three minute
Speaker 1: time frame. It seemed like you just over and over
Speaker 1: and over again last year or so. I guess that's
Speaker 1: my question is why are they not They don't seem
Speaker 1: to be able to make those those adjustments during the game,
Speaker 1: just kind of like they have the game plan, seems
Speaker 1: like they stick with it and this is what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. It's just seem very frustrating as a fan.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks, thanks, I don't I can't disagree. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think there are stubborn I think a lot of coaches.
Speaker 1: Most coaches are stubborn because that's they're at this point
Speaker 1: because they believe in what they believe and they're here
Speaker 1: and they and you know, they're always kind of like
Speaker 1: I'm more smarter than you type stuff. Adjustments in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they hadn't been great adjustments from game to game. We've
Speaker 1: seen that. We've seen when everyone starts saying, why don't
Speaker 1: they throw a deep? Well, watch this, We'll throw a DP.
Speaker 1: Why don't they use tavon more? Watch this? Why why
Speaker 1: don't you run dack Moore? Watch this? But then they
Speaker 1: don't carry it over? Um, well, not only that, and
Speaker 1: then I agree with you, but like when they do
Speaker 1: it too, they act like that, well that's what we
Speaker 1: were going to do all along, Like what are you talking? Like,
Speaker 1: what what do you mean? Like, no, we don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to ye. Definitely a stubbornness. And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's just them in the league. I think I think
Speaker 1: other teams do it. But I think you're the NFL.
Speaker 1: And but you're right about last year. I mean, they
Speaker 1: just weren't. It took them a while. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's stubbornness is the right word about not
Speaker 1: taking the ball. I think it took them a reality
Speaker 1: check to realize we're our offense is not the best
Speaker 1: thing we do. We don't just line up and run
Speaker 1: you over like we did two years ago when Dak
Speaker 1: was a rookie, it didn't matter. We'll be in Lambeau Field,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're taking the ball, we're going down, we're
Speaker 1: gonna score. Watch this And they and they didn't set
Speaker 1: the whole tone. It took them a whole year to
Speaker 1: realize we don't do that anymore. We're punting from the
Speaker 1: twenty two yard line. And now they'll get the ball
Speaker 1: to start the you know, they get the ball at
Speaker 1: midfield and to start the third quarter. This isn't working well.
Speaker 1: And stubborn too. I mean, I've always gotten the vibe
Speaker 1: basically the whole time I've worked here, Like they think
Speaker 1: they're the smartest guys in the room, and I mean
Speaker 1: they know more about football than I do, for sure.
Speaker 1: But you know, and I think you see it reflected
Speaker 1: in stuff all over, not even just on the field.
Speaker 1: But they hire Paul Alexander, which we just tall, you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't really fit what they're used to doing. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: anybody can coach this offensive line doesn't look like it
Speaker 1: right now. Well, we don't need a badass wide receiver,
Speaker 1: like these guys are good enough. This is what Dak
Speaker 1: friendly looks like that wasn't really right either, and so
Speaker 1: you can call it stubbornness. I think the word arrogance
Speaker 1: applies in a lot of areas as well, and sometimes
Speaker 1: they're right. To be fair, I mean, the Dan Bailey
Speaker 1: decision worked out pretty well. Right. There's another one too
Speaker 1: that I oh. I mean, hey, you know, Josh, Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon got dis by the Patriots last night, you know,
Speaker 1: after three weeks being so they're not they're not always wrong,
Speaker 1: but I think I think that they can be stubborn
Speaker 1: and arrogant and it can lead them in the wrong
Speaker 1: direction on a lot of occasions. I've always thought next
Speaker 1: man up as an arrogant phrase if you really go
Speaker 1: buy it, if you just say, you know what, Tyron's out,
Speaker 1: Chiles Green's in, next man up, let's go do it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't work that way. He needs help. He's not Tyrren
Speaker 1: Smith where he would be starting. So don't treat him
Speaker 1: like the next guy. You could say that to him.
Speaker 1: It's a great poster. Yeah, you can, you t shirt
Speaker 1: all that, but you know, they spent three and a
Speaker 1: half quarters with you know, Dad got sacked what's fourteen
Speaker 1: times or whatever it was. Before you realize you're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, this isn't working, So the next man
Speaker 1: up didn't work because he didn't come up. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: appreciate you join us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll talk
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