WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Change of Pace?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, October thirtieth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number sixty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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<v Speaker 1>live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking Cowboys football. If you gut for forty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot to talk about today. Little stuff that we

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<v Speaker 1>that we kind of threw out yesterday that turned into

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<v Speaker 1>news last night. And oh yeah, I'd say certainly can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that I knew anything or that I don't know. Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you didn't know something. I didn't know anything going in.

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<v Speaker 1>But Paul Alexander ends up getting the acts yesterday. He

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer with the Dallas Cowboys, relieved of his

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<v Speaker 1>duties as offensive line coach, Mark Colombo promoted to the

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<v Speaker 1>new offensive line coach, and Hudson Howeck a name that

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<v Speaker 1>We've known around here for a long time. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys organization before for a pretty long stint.

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<v Speaker 1>Twice is it twice is now back in a consultant

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<v Speaker 1>type role. Big question for you guys is I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is this a good move? Is this something that's good

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys At this point, we'll find out. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>find out if if that's the the issue. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more than than just performance there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about the interview that I did

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<v Speaker 1>and sorry that I was a part of it, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just me, but um, it's that kind of attitude

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<v Speaker 1>that it was like, nothing's wrong, everything's fine, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about interviewing with Alexander and I just think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a clash of philosophy there that not just recently

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<v Speaker 1>but all year and it just it just didn't mesh.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought it would and it didn't. And you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you look at Twitter and you probably your

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter feed the same thing. Well what about Garrett, what

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<v Speaker 1>about Lenahan? Okay, you're not doing all these things. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is the best position on the team, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden they're they're underperforming what's what's changed? Frederick, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can't get him back? What's changed? Paul Alexander, Well you

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<v Speaker 1>can change that then, Like, yeah, no, I actually I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that earlier. Today is like, just spare me

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<v Speaker 1>what this means about Jason Garrett. Like, whatever your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>is about Jason Garrett, you don't fire a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>a winning person a positive winning percentage one game below

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred halfway through the season. Like nobody does that, nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>So spare me. This is a change that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know anything yesterday, or else I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been way firmer with what I said. I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I was like, I guess they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, because honestly, that's the timing that's surprising

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<v Speaker 1>to me, you know, because well, why don't you do

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<v Speaker 1>it during the actual bye week when you're supposedly self

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<v Speaker 1>outing and really evaluating. But you know, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>the team's just now getting back today. They weren't here yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday was technically part of the bye week, So I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if they kind of came to this

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion last week. And I know, and Mark might have

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<v Speaker 1>known and been preparing. There's also which I don't completely

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<v Speaker 1>buy this because Jason Garrett is a close personal friend

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<v Speaker 1>of Clayton Kershaw and Tommy LaSora. But there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>speculation that Hudson Howe lives in the LA area, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he went out there to have a chat with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I agree, like I did it over the phone exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't pick up the phone right like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. You need to go out there to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was probably more about wanting to see

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series, but he does live out there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they were in communication over the weekend, so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is probably something that they thought they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do, regardless of when they did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the timing was weird, though I would have

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<v Speaker 1>done it before the weekend. But you guys are as

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<v Speaker 1>close at team as anyone had. You guys heard anything

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<v Speaker 1>just just in conversation, and I'm not asking you to

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<v Speaker 1>divulge names or anything, but just in conversations that pointed

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<v Speaker 1>to a feeling of either discontent or just the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe they felt like they weren't getting that players

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<v Speaker 1>maybe weren't or coaches didn't feel like there was enough

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<v Speaker 1>going on there as far as what Paul Alexander was provided. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>right after he was high, right after he joined the team,

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard that some of the players were not

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<v Speaker 1>really enthused with the higher at all and didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he would really help them. Um that right there

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<v Speaker 1>is bad from the start because you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how it goes, and just just in life, if you

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<v Speaker 1>already have a bad you know, feeling about something, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to even buy in, even if you should be

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. So that was that was the first issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then even after this last game, we heard that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what they're asking them to do is not

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<v Speaker 1>the same with what they're used to. It's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a reactionary type, you know line than more of attacking.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe that's because of you know, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>changes you have at in the offensive line, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't think that they're doing the same

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<v Speaker 1>type of things. It's different philosophy in the line. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to pretend like I know the

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<v Speaker 1>ins and outs of offensive line play. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing in a football game that I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>most ignorant of, you know, in terms of like the

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<v Speaker 1>actual minutia of how you play offensive line. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do know Alexander plays more power blocking like suited for

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<v Speaker 1>big like the old school Nate Newton style of offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>This is clearly like a more you know, they played zone.

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<v Speaker 1>They were so good at zone. That was what Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Callahan brought here, and this is a smaller, more athletic

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. I mean, Connor Williams obviously is not like

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<v Speaker 1>your prototypical NFL cart Tyrant Smith. As good as he's been,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not what you think of in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>build of a gigantic left tackle either. So it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this will help getting back to what they

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<v Speaker 1>were good at before. My only question is why they

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<v Speaker 1>do it in the first place then, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's the flip side of that coin as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get a lot better now that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the old way. Is well, why did you

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<v Speaker 1>think this higher was a good idea in the first place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that's a good point. And also

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<v Speaker 1>the same reason why you do it is the same

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<v Speaker 1>reason why you shouldn't be that excited about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I say this because you don't ever quit a job

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have something else in play. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever fire someone if you don't have someone else in play.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mark Collombo was obviously here ready to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really doubt that Mark Collombo, sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>room going God, would have done all the desk or

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<v Speaker 1>would have done I mean, maybe a couple times, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think a huge philosophy change there. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>can come in and try some new things, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily think it's going to be this complete. I

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<v Speaker 1>did talk to Nate this more because I had that

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<v Speaker 1>similar kind of question. Nate Newton, who works on Hanging

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<v Speaker 1>with the Boys. He's played line before, he's played line before.

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<v Speaker 1>It very pretty decent. Dabbing it led, He dabbled in it,

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<v Speaker 1>And my question was like, is this something we can

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<v Speaker 1>expect significant change? Like does a coach bring that much

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<v Speaker 1>to the table. He said, well, the way he views it,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks at this offensive line, he says, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the way they played under Paul Alexander was much

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<v Speaker 1>more of a passive style of offensive offensive line play. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>their their job was kind of to take a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of steps back, give ground to be able to then

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<v Speaker 1>try to adjust and react to what's coming at them.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Back when they played and even when you

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<v Speaker 1>had guys like Bill Callahan here and they were always aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>it was always about take the punch to them. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>sit back, don't give up ground at all, don't the

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<v Speaker 1>goal was never to give ground in order to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not catching guys, You're more attacking them. And so

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I if Mark Colombo, which he thinks he is,

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<v Speaker 1>if Mark Colombo is more on the side of I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be more aggressive as far as my offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line is concerned. And he starts giving them that those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of techniques and working with them on those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of techniques and really giving them the license to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more aggressive, then it could make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And it could make a big difference really quickly, because

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<v Speaker 1>these guys have done it before. Right a weekend for

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<v Speaker 1>Colombo just thought of that. I mean, he is a

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<v Speaker 1>die hard Boston Red Sox fan, like, oh is big time,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah time. Yeah. He One time on the bus

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<v Speaker 1>he just said to me, He's like, did just he

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<v Speaker 1>who's pitching to night? I'm just like, I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Pedro's on the team. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's all you know, he's just talking all

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I'm just like, okay, I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>or care, but he's really he's six eight and three

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<v Speaker 1>three twenty and so I'm just like's not through twenty anymore. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not. He's a basketball there now, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>still he's six eight, two sixties. The difference though, two

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three eight and half of me, that's that's Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 1>like six eight, two sixties Lebron. So he's a big.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big two sixties. He's probably two eighties. He's

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<v Speaker 1>probably two sixty. Then. I don't know. I would think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't have the guys weight memorized, but he's Lebron.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say two thirty. No, not at his height. He

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be a bean pole to be. Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant is two thirty and he looks like a twig.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'd say he's probably two fifty, two sixties. What

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<v Speaker 1>I would just two thirty No way, okay, whatever, all right, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>according to hist there we go. Wikipedia can trust that

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<v Speaker 1>can go change. I'll check the Lakers roster just two

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two sixty. He's a big dude. Whatever, we're sidetracked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. You're right, yeah, that saw opening nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big dude. He's kind of that jersey kept

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<v Speaker 1>he kept pull pulling it out a little bit, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So all in all, you guys don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good move for the Cowboys. It's something you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, well, we'll find out, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they get criticized for another team to make a trade,

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<v Speaker 1>like why didn't the Cowboys do that? Why didn't they

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Why didn't they go get Josh Gordon? Why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't they go get whatever? You know what, they're making moves,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're making moves for probably right now and down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. You know what if if Mark Cooper he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the receiver, the number one receiver for a

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<v Speaker 1>few years. And Mark Colombo, if things go well and

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, pick this up a little bit, he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be the offensive line coach. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of those things where it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>band aid type thing now and it might lead to

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<v Speaker 1>down the road things as well. I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a mistake to assume the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with Amari Cooper. You're crazy if you think this is

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be a magic pill that makes everything better.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a minor tweak where you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>like overhaul or give up on the season. That gives

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<v Speaker 1>you hope that they can play better. And that's they

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<v Speaker 1>only need to be a little bit better, right They

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<v Speaker 1>only you know, same thing with the receivers and only

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<v Speaker 1>need to be a little bit better to make it

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<v Speaker 1>work a lot better than it has been. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you scored two more times a game, a touchdown in

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<v Speaker 1>a field goal a game, I mean, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but I mean, you know that's that's one

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<v Speaker 1>in every half where the drive did it install? For

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the reason, you get this team ten more points

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<v Speaker 1>a game. You know they have a different record, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could say that about a lot of teams,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I think you got to apply to

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys for what they're doing here. They're not giving

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<v Speaker 1>up on the season. They know they're there. And I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Stephen Jones last week. Last thing he said

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<v Speaker 1>was I like our team. I really like our team,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we have a shot. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone and they've made some moves. I mean, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the thing overall, they're really only two

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<v Speaker 1>other areas where, at least from what you hear from

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<v Speaker 1>fans and from media, two other areas that you would

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<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys even where their problems lie. The quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>is one of them, and the offensive coordinator is another.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not changing the quarterback at this point, not right

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<v Speaker 1>now for sure, and it doesn't seem like they're They're

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<v Speaker 1>very prone right now to make a decision that would

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<v Speaker 1>change who's gonna be causing I'll call in the offensive place.

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<v Speaker 1>But they addressed the offensive line, which has been a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and they addressed their ability to run the ball, which

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<v Speaker 1>is now being hampered because they're not getting anything on

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<v Speaker 1>the passing game by bringing in Amari Cooper. So, at

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<v Speaker 1>least from that standpoint, the things that most people think

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<v Speaker 1>are the issues, they've addressed a couple of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that makes a difference for the other two that

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<v Speaker 1>they did not address. Maybe according to some people sufficiently,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take our first break when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna finally get to the topic of change. Is

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<v Speaker 1>something we're carrying over from last week Paul Alexander obviously

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<v Speaker 1>was a big change. We have a few others and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw out to you guys, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>This is the second segment of The Break live from

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<v Speaker 1>the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>Talking Change. Cowboys make a big move yesterday and make

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<v Speaker 1>a big move last week. A couple of big moves. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about a couple of other moves that

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<v Speaker 1>could Some of them could be big, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>could be small. But just things that we think are

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna say possibilities, but just things that

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<v Speaker 1>exist out in the ether that could be possible changes

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys could make here coming off there bye

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<v Speaker 1>week that may or may not be able to help them.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, we talked about a couple We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>changing the offensive play caller from Lenahan to Garrett. We

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<v Speaker 1>also talked about Lyle to guard and Connor Williams to

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<v Speaker 1>write tackle. So let's get into a couple of these

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<v Speaker 1>other ones. Let's mover to the defensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one I'm gonna throw at you guys before

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<v Speaker 1>you say that, I just want to say this, if

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know this, but if you're gonna change

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<v Speaker 1>the old line, coach, I mean, Colombo could be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here thinking that that's exactly what they need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I doubt I doubt that we'll see Collins flipping

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<v Speaker 1>with with Connor Williams. But when you are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a change, he's he's the new coach. He's got to

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<v Speaker 1>do something different here. So I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>we see something. It could be a philosophy change. I

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<v Speaker 1>doubt it's that, but I'm just saying before we just

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<v Speaker 1>completely we addressed it last week. Things have changed. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to do something. But I would guess. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's I was joking about that on Twitter yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>That for me would be as easy as just being like,

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<v Speaker 1>close those playbooks we gave you in April. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing that stuff anymore, and there's your philosophy change right there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just that's true. Maybe mean he was here for

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<v Speaker 1>the he's been here. He's been here since sixteen he

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<v Speaker 1>was I mean, he's been around here. He knows he's

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<v Speaker 1>been here longer than that. But he's been part of

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line room for the last two years. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the other part to be factored in here

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<v Speaker 1>is he is a former offensive lineman of former offensive

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<v Speaker 1>lineman here. I think sometimes when you're coaching what you played,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a level of empathy, so you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking a guy to do a certain thing. They

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<v Speaker 1>brought this up. I thought it was a really great point.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, there's some games you get into or the

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<v Speaker 1>guy you're playing against technique. It's nice staff technique, and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to always emphasize technique, but there's some dog

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<v Speaker 1>fights you get in where it's just like keep your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback clean. And a guy that's played the position will

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<v Speaker 1>have that level of empathy to not hound on a

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<v Speaker 1>guy when he's on the sideline if his technique isn't right,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's keeping the guy off his quarterback and say,

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing what you're doing. We'll figure it out next week. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only that, but this guy Colombo played the

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<v Speaker 1>game like a street fight every single snap, like he

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<v Speaker 1>played it that way, right, So maybe maybe if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in your rookies ear about technique technique technique on the sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that does more damage to him than by than

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, look, man, right now, you need to survive

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<v Speaker 1>this game, keep him off your quarterback, figure it out right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so maybe him being a former offensive line helps

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<v Speaker 1>with that kind of communication that helps your offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>play a little better in game. I'm interested to see

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<v Speaker 1>what this does for Lyle Collins. I mean, Tyron Smith

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<v Speaker 1>is Tyron Smith, like I have a hard time believe

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<v Speaker 1>in like he was gonna do. He's gonna do what's

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<v Speaker 1>been working for him. I would assume, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the All Pros and the Pro Bowls to go

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<v Speaker 1>along with that to where kind of like Zach Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>he almost functions independent of scheme in my opinion. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but Lyle Collins is still a young, developing guy. How

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<v Speaker 1>much did this new philosophy that Paul Alexander brought in

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<v Speaker 1>hurt him? And how quickly can he get away from

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<v Speaker 1>it if that is what was hurting his game? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. And the fact that he's still developing is

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<v Speaker 1>what makes that interesting. So I mean, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating if he just shoots right back up to where

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<v Speaker 1>he was in December of last year, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>very telling. But I feel like it'll be a little

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<v Speaker 1>easier said than done. Yeah, And that also when you

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<v Speaker 1>say it that it made me think of another point

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<v Speaker 1>for Connor Williams, that does this throw him off? Like

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<v Speaker 1>we don't consume it and consider that part, But when

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<v Speaker 1>you put a different person in his ear mid season

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<v Speaker 1>as a young guy just learning the NFL ropes, does

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<v Speaker 1>that throw him off now because he's now thinking too

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<v Speaker 1>much because maybe what he's being told now is different

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<v Speaker 1>than what he's been told And maybe, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things the factor in here, and we

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<v Speaker 1>won't know until we actually see it in practice and

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<v Speaker 1>see them play, see if they get better over these

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<v Speaker 1>next few weeks. And that's I wouldn't assume that they're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to magically be the Great Wall of Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's probably going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>mixed bag at least at first. All right, I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you this next change. It's on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball Byron Jones. He's been really good by some estimates,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking him at some of the sites that

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<v Speaker 1>actually rate players at different positions based upon their play.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, as of a couple weeks ago, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the highest rated cornerback in the NFL. Now take that

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<v Speaker 1>with a grain of salt, because there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of factors into that. But it doesn't seem like defenses

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<v Speaker 1>are necessarily throwing at him as frequently as they're throwing

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<v Speaker 1>at other guys in the Cowboys secondary. That being said,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think the Cowboys should consider the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>taking Byron Jones in each week, maybe traveling him with

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<v Speaker 1>the best wide receiver from the other team, so it

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<v Speaker 1>forces teams to make a decision, are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid throwing at him if that's what's actually happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>that means you got to avoid your best wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>or do that? Does that force him into throwing at

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Jones and maybe give Byron Jones a few more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities to make some plays on the ball. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it in all weeks. I don't think you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do it this week against Tennessee. You know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Atlanta coming up in a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and that they've got a clear cut number one, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you try it. Then that's also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>big and long, right, so that may help having Byron

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<v Speaker 1>who's also very long. Yeah. You know the thing about

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<v Speaker 1>it though, and I always said this about players, that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when a guy travels, it's also the other

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<v Speaker 1>guy has to travel as well. So is he capable

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<v Speaker 1>of doing that? Is that you know Cheeto? If Cheeto

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<v Speaker 1>capable of playing both sides as well, it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>one guy, And then are you going to help him?

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<v Speaker 1>And you just have to change the way you want

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<v Speaker 1>to play thing on defense. I'm not saying you don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I think you probably picked your spots at

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<v Speaker 1>times when you want to do it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they have done that. Actually, when who was it

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<v Speaker 1>they played when they played um? It seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago when when they played somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>they put him on UM they played Jacksonville. Wouldn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>anybody for Jacksonville. I remember we talked about this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a tight end or something like that. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about when he's over there, Byron Jones should be

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<v Speaker 1>playing against him, and he was I can't remember who

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<v Speaker 1>it was though, who was before Detroit, Seattle? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drawing a big blank. I just remember talking about

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<v Speaker 1>I would put Byron on this guy, and then that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually kind of what they did. I can't remember who

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<v Speaker 1>it was though. Rod Marinelli and Christopher Shard both are

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<v Speaker 1>not known for doing that. Like Rod's always true. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Christmas, I thought when Chris was with Richard, Sherman

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<v Speaker 1>never left the left side and Seattle, really I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he did travel. He's not a traveling cornerback. Okay, He's

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, Jason Garrett loves to say that when

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<v Speaker 1>they play those cover three schemes. This is paraphrasing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna do what they what they do. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play their guys where they play them and demand

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<v Speaker 1>that you beat him. Sherman and I remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when Sherman was really at the peak of his powers

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>in like twenty thirteen fourteen, there was a lot of

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 1>debate about like him and Patrick Peterson, like, oh, Peterson

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:17.879
<v Speaker 1>travels and he'll take the best guy, and Sherman just

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:19.920
<v Speaker 1>stays on the left side. So clearly Sherman's not as

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<v Speaker 1>good and blah blah blah. That's not what cover three

0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.280
<v Speaker 1>schemes typically do. And Rod Marinelli is notorious for you know,

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>he just wants to execute what he wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>well rather than mix and match and switch it all up. So,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what I think, I would be pretty surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if they started doing that, especially since what they've been

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 1>doing has worked way more often than it hasn't. All right,

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.240
<v Speaker 1>let's stick with the cornerbacks. Let's talk about Anthony Brown.

0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown. I think he's kind of been up and

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<v Speaker 1>down this year. I mean, you guys can give your

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<v Speaker 1>own assessment of how you think he's played. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do wonder if there's a possibility at some point the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys consider putting Jordan Lewis in that spot as the

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<v Speaker 1>as the as the starting slot corner for the team

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<v Speaker 1>or the guy that comes in as the third corner

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<v Speaker 1>in those situations, What do you guys think? I just

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, they drafted him to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get on the field, Jordan Lewis and play. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got the body type you would think to play inside.

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>There's a reason why he didn't beat out Anthony Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he kind of plays on the outside, and

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<v Speaker 1>so when he plays when Lewis is an outside corner

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.159
<v Speaker 1>and he's smaller than that, he's gonna be limited. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's had the opportunity to be an inside a

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<v Speaker 1>slot guy and he doesn't do it as well as Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they want to try it again, that's fine.

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he's playing with more confidence now. I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Lewis. This might be a good time to

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<v Speaker 1>try it. But I know that it's been their preference

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<v Speaker 1>to have those three guys as the cornerbacks, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen in training camp, and so if he's better now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. But I mean, I know that they tried

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<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't worked. I'm gonna do my best key impression.

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even realize how. I haven't looked at it

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>since the bye week. Dallas is third against the pass.

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that, Ken, I appreciate that. And was

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 1>it actually Kin? Don't you know that that's that's Mickey?

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.479
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was on the show when he did Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Sorry, they're third in they're third in the

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<v Speaker 1>league against the pass? Like what why are you trying

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 1>to make all these drastic changes? Like they have four

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he does they have two? Are they have two above

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<v Speaker 1>average cornerbacks. I'm trying. I'm trying to get through this, y'all.

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go. They have two above average cornerbacks

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and they are third and fourth cornerbacks. Haven't been as

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<v Speaker 1>good as you would hope, but they're still probably above

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.919
<v Speaker 1>average league average wise. Um. And you know, even when

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 1>when Jordan Lewis kind of got this break, I even

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>asked him, I was like, has it been hard to

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and play like two snaps? And he's you know,

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>christ Shard called him their relief pitcher. Like you need

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy like that, You need a guy who can

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<v Speaker 1>come off and play when he needs to. And so

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown hasn't been great. Jordan Lewis has also had

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<v Speaker 1>his slip ups. Like whatever, I'm not I don't care

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>about switching it up. Like the result overall has been very,

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<v Speaker 1>very good, so drastic changes don't seem like they're needed.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel the same about the safety position, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>know at the beginning of the season we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about Earl Thomas. But at this point, do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like the safety position has hindered this defense

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>or do you feel like it's all kind of shakes,

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it's all kind of leveled out, and they're playing within

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<v Speaker 1>the context of the overall defense, and that's been good.

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's been pretty good. But if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at who they've played, even the games that they've lost,

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean Russell, Russell Wilson, I mean Alex Smith, they've

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<v Speaker 1>been tested a little bit down the field, especially in

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Seattle they gave up a touchdown, but they haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>tested a lot. And I think that when you go

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<v Speaker 1>up against Atlanta, maybe even Philly with Carson Wentz, you know,

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans is coming, I mean, they're gonna get tests

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>coming up. Yeah, definitely. I mean, and really Indianapolis, take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at what they're doing. They're throwing the ball around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. So I just feel like they haven't really

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>been tested a whole lot. They've been playing okay, but

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>they hadn't been a whole lot of those shootout games.

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting point because you even think about a

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<v Speaker 1>team like Tampa Bay have a Bay could throw it around,

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>especially now they're going back to Fitzpatrick. They were slinging

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it around the beginning of season. So you've got a

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of teams coming up here down the final stretch

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of the season, during the second half of seasons, that

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>are going to throw the ball a lot. That's not

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna help him much. I mean, what do you mean,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Fitzpatrick. He reminds me of other backup

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks over the years for the Cowboys. When he comes in,

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>things are okay. But when you really scheme and game

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>playing him. Yeah, let's be clear. I'm not saying they're

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>about to change the fortune. What I am saying, though,

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>is he will throw the ball, and he will throw

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball down field. Might not even be the quarterback.

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>By December twenty third, he might be the quarterback again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, exactly. The safeties have not been as bad

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 1>as I thought they were, but I yeah, I tend

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to lean more toward thinking it's just favorable matchups at

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>this point because they I did the numbers on this

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the season, Like, they've given up almost as

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>many chunk touchdowns so far this season they did all

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>of the years where they've been playoff contenders, you know,

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>two against Detroit, one against Seattle. Safety. I know Anthony

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Brown misplayed the ball to DeAndre Hopkins in that game,

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>but mistackle by Xavier Woods is what allowed it to

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>get them into field goal range. So no, it hasn't

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.640
<v Speaker 1>been great. The thing with that is what can you do?

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>And that was always That's always been my problem with

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.199
<v Speaker 1>the safety thing is they didn't really give themselves a

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of options as far as fixing it. I mean,

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 1>you got what you got three hours still the trade

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>deadline and your first round picks gone, like, I don't

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>know what they're supposed to do. So Xavier Woods and

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Heath have been fine and they're probably just gonna

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>have to hope it stays that way. Would you trade

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<v Speaker 1>a seventh round pick to Seattle to get to get

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the rights for all at this point? Yeah, I mean

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of money in your cap for a

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>guy that's not playing. But I mean they got the money, No,

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>why not? I don't. I don't think Seattle would do

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>it for at this They're gonna get nothing from him,

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>that's I think them so, and he can they can't

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>play now anyone and especially as a matter of comp's

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be better than the seventh round that they would

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.719
<v Speaker 1>get in the trade match. The comping, No, I wouldn't

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>do for a guy that can't play who if he

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>wants to be here, which he says he does, let

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 1>him be a free agent and then let him come here.

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to give up anything. And they're not

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna not gonna play him this year, so they're not

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna franchise a thirty year old. You have the ability,

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you would have the ability to resign him first. Yeah,

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>but what I'm saying is if if as he says,

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>he wants to come here, it's very clear he's not

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be in Seattle, so he will be a

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>free agent most and most likely, if he's a free

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 1>agent and he wants to come here, you have to

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>give up nothing, and you're basically just you give him

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>a contract that makes sense, that he likes, you like,

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>and he's here coming off an injury at thirty or

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.679
<v Speaker 1>thirty one, and we've seen what the NFL thinks of

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>safeties in the last two years. He'll probably will be

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<v Speaker 1>in like a tyro in Matthew situation where a couple

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.479
<v Speaker 1>of years, he'll year he's on Matthews on a one

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>year I know, but yeah, one or two years and

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>he'll have you know, he'll have ten or fifteen offers

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>and he can take the one he wants, So no,

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not giving up anything for him at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>just say that I think they will, right, I think

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that's some of you would say. I just think like,

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>let's hold off on saying that they do they sign on.

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:06.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think it might be a raffle.

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>They signed some some stuff. I mean, you may not

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>be able to get it right there. But I know

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that they'll sign some stuff. It may not be maybe

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>it's available to you, but right there. But but the

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>good thing is you'll be out there. You both get

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>some pictures, there'll be some great shows, great commentaries. If

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you've never been able to hear those two together, it

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>should be good commenties like we're gonna be the pregame

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>show to that at So there's lots of good, good

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>programming going on in addition to just being QB one

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and RB one of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, I don't

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>think you will be leaving at five fifty, Like all right,

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear any more about Dave has

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to say. We saw it, Nick and Dave. So let's

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.719
<v Speaker 1>beat the traffic wells on the Happy Hour today Again,

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it's myself, Dave, Shannon, Girls, Kurt Daniels. We're making this

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Happy Hour day you and Nate's on there. So it's

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>really like hanging with the boys. We'll just be hanging

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>with the boys to wow. Yeah, you're right, that's okay.

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna have food? I'd be awesome and I

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think so not because we're in the Ford Center,

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>so that food of hot ducks good point. So maybe

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I should go and get you got some hot dogs

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and bring them over. Hey, does that work? I thought

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I exacted? Okay, yeah, okay, I thought this was the

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>happy hour you drink beer and food an happy hour.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's you're right, depends on what happy hour you

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>going to. It's fine, all right, this is not a

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>food happy hour, okay, or a drink happy hour. Sounds awesome,

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>It does sound awesome. Great, all right, all right, let's

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>jump back here. We got a couple more I wanted

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to hit you guys with a couple more changes, Dave,

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I know you're gonna love this one. Who how about

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.479
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys use more ten personnel versus eleven personnel? Now

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that they have this new great wide receiving option in

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the building. And Jeff Swain injured last game, maybe he's out.

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I think finally, maybe we see a little bit more

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>of a difference to ten verses eleven. Why would you

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>bring this up? Why would you do this to me?

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I just I know how much you love it. The

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>answers no, Actually the answer is no you shouldn't or

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>no they won't. They won't like But that's there are

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.479
<v Speaker 1>two questions here. But should they? And then well they

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that's I can talk to him. I'm blue in the

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>face about all the reasons why I think they should,

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>But who cares if they're not going to do. That's

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>why people tune in, because they do care about your opinion.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>You're paid to be an analyst. I would love it,

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, especially when you add Amari Cooper to this group.

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Like your tight ends. Jeff Swam has played, he has

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 1>played admirably. I think that's the word I would use.

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been great, but admirably. But tight end is

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>still a weak point on this roster. Jeff Swam might

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>not also be able to even play in this game

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>depending on his knee. So between Cooper, Beasley, Gallop, and

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I would throw in Alan Hearns. I think you've got

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>four pretty capable wide receivers. You got one of the

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>best running backs in the game. I would love to

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>make defenses have to go small to defend you and

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>exploit that mismatch. I don't think the Cowboys will do it,

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>though I clearly agree. I think we when we say

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>it all the time about offensive lineman, get your best

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>guys out on the field, you know, and I think

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it should be the same here. I mean, when you're

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>looking at the tight end position. Those guys are listed

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>as tight ends, but they're not. They don't really help

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 1>you that much. It's not like you have this great

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>advantage of them blocking. You know, if you had complete

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>tight ends like Gronk is, like Witten was, then yeah,

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>you can do everything that you want to do with them.

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>But just having Sholts out there and having Jarwin out

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>there doesn't mean hey, they can go deep or they

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>can stay in and block. It doesn't work that way.

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>They're not they're not at that level yet. So I

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>think your best guys or those receivers he just mentioned,

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you have Zeke in there, you spread them out, you

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>can run the ball. I like it. And that's something

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I asked Jason Garrett about this personally, and it goes

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>back to what I said about Rob Marinelli and Christopher

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>shard Is, like, well, you know, if something's not working,

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>if if if your tight ends aren't playing as well

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>as you'd like and they're not blocking as well as

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you like, you have two choices between you switch it

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>up and do stuff like play more ten personnel because

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that suits your strengths more, or do you just try

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>to make it work with what you want to do

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and hope that the time on task gets them better,

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's all around. That is typically the Cowboys strategy

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>is we gotta work harder at what we want to

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 1>do rather than we've got to change and do something else.

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>We can say whatever we want to, but we know

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>that that the that drafting players buys them at an

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to stay here longer. Um. And I think that

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.919
<v Speaker 1>the draft drafting Schultz has really kind of affected them

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to the point where they have to keep them. They

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>almostly they almost have to play him a lot, and

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>he's not ready and you're not going to give up

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>on him, but he hasn't really done a whole lot

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.399
<v Speaker 1>for you to to justify him being out there. They

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>still like something. They like the size of Jarwin. That's

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 1>really all that there is to like right now about him.

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Um And maybe you know potential and then you got Rico.

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>You got potential there and his size. It's just it's

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of different things to sort of like.

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's nobody's really worthy of saying, oh, well,

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I need to put them out there and play. I mean,

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a position they need to address something now.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean today, real a teaser for tomorrow show because

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give it away, but I'm been

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 1>doing some research about personnel groupings because the Titans are

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>very similar to the Cowboys in the way they like

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to play offense. I was surprised, like damn near, like

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody in the NFL really uses ten personnel more than

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 1>as like an occasional gimmick, which I thought was kind

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of weird, Like I thought there would at least be

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a team in the league that

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>uses it more than ten percent of the time, So

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe I'm wrong, And I would say eleven is

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>probably eleven is a forty percent of the offense across

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the board. Eleven is everybody's favorite, and actually, which finds

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>something you're good at doing and doing. The Rams run

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>eleven like ninety six percent of the time. I would

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>imagine the Lions do it a lot too, the Lions. Actually,

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the Lions run ten more than anybody else,

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>which but they run eleven most of the time as well. Yeah,

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, so it's interesting to see, you know, how

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>NFL teams value that stuff, And like I said, I mean, hey,

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>just for Jerry Madeline out there, who might be, you know, listening,

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Just real quick, ten and eleven, So it's real quick

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>for those of you that don't know Jerry Madelon, he's

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>a guy that helps make sure our guys are developing

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>as on air person it is always tell this. Make

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>sure you tell everybody what you're talking. It's about it's football.

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>It's football speak specifically for the sake of football seak. Like,

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you could just say three receiver, four receiver, but it

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>makes you sound smarter if you say ten and eleven personnel.

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>So the first number is run. First numbers running back,

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>second numbers tight end. So then you just surmise what

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the receiver and then the receivers are a given because

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>there's only so many guys left on the field. So

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>if you're running eleven personnel, that's one receiver, one running back,

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>one tight end, which leads three receivers. Ten personnel is

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>one running back and no tight ends, which is four receivers.

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Thirteen personnel would be one running back and three tight ends, twelve, etcetera, etcetera.

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 1>That's worth the mickey. Get ready because we're gonna talk

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot about twelve and thirteen personnel tomorrow when we

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about the Titans, So I do a lot of that,

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that. Okay, anyway, So actually sticking with

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>tight end, that's actually the last question I have for you, guys.

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's assume, for the sake of this conversation that Jeff

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Swiam does not play this week. Would you guys consider

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of either making him the starter or giving

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>him the majority of the reps a tight end one

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>reco gap. Yeah. I think I think when he comes

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>down to I think we said this last week. I mean,

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I think he will probably be the starter. I think

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>he's the best blocker you've got right now. He's not

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the best route runner, but I think he can make

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>some plays down the field. I wouldn't be surprised if

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he does start. And I'm not just saying start the

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>game because they go with twelve or thirteen. I mean

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I actually start. So it wouldn't surprise me at all

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>if he did. That. Give him my choices, Yeah, seriously,

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>we kind of limited on where you are right now,

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's right now. I'm watching the practice reports starting

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday to see what Swain's doing. Jerry Jones said

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>this morning that they feel good that he Gregory and

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Tavon Austin are the two guys he mentioned. Tavon's out

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and then Gregory's a guy to watch. But I don't

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>think he mentioned Swains, so maybe there's a chance he

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>could be ready to go. It's something to watch. But yeah,

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if he's unavailable, bull, why not? I mean,

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen anything from Blake Jarwin that gets

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>me excited. And then Dalton Schultz obviously is a working

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>ProRes So yeah, Rico time, let's go. All right, let's

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>get your phone call from Chris and Connecticut. Chris, what up? Hey, guys?

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.919
<v Speaker 1>He speak with you? You too. I wanted to say,

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I really this is listening for a very long time,

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and really enjoy your objectivity and really appreciate that. Thank

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you your insight. Um, there's about thirty things I could

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>questions I could ask you, but I got a limited

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to one right, So, UM, at this point in time,

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess my question for you is um, And it's

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>partly a statement, is that you know my frustration with

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 1>the with Lenahan and Garret and that just are they

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>are they stubborn or are they just incapable of making

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not only can they not make real time adjustments.

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem during the game, but even at halftime,

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>it seems they're always getting out coached. It was the

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.240
<v Speaker 1>same scripts almost every game second half of the season

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>last year, where they get scored on right before halftime

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>kick off the ball because they were so stubborn they

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't never defer. It took them a year to finally

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>stop doing that and then get scored on and you know,

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the game flips like in a two to three minute

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>time frame. It seemed like you just over and over

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and over again last year or so. I guess that's

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>my question is why are they not They don't seem

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to be able to make those those adjustments during the game,

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like they have the game plan, seems

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>like they stick with it and this is what we're

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. It's just seem very frustrating as a fan.

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks, thanks, I don't I can't disagree. I mean,

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I think there are stubborn I think a lot of coaches.

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Most coaches are stubborn because that's they're at this point

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>because they believe in what they believe and they're here

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and they and you know, they're always kind of like

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm more smarter than you type stuff. Adjustments in the game. Yeah,

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>they hadn't been great adjustments from game to game. We've

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>seen that. We've seen when everyone starts saying, why don't

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>they throw a deep? Well, watch this, We'll throw a DP.

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Why don't they use tavon more? Watch this? Why why

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>don't you run dack Moore? Watch this? But then they

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>don't carry it over? Um, well, not only that, and

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>then I agree with you, but like when they do

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it too, they act like that, well that's what we

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>were going to do all along, Like what are you talking? Like,

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 1>what what do you mean? Like, no, we don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to ye. Definitely a stubbornness. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just them in the league. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>other teams do it. But I think you're the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>And but you're right about last year. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>just weren't. It took them a while. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's stubbornness is the right word about not

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<v Speaker 1>taking the ball. I think it took them a reality

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<v Speaker 1>check to realize we're our offense is not the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing we do. We don't just line up and run

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<v Speaker 1>you over like we did two years ago when Dak

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<v Speaker 1>was a rookie, it didn't matter. We'll be in Lambeau Field,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. We're taking the ball, we're going down, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna score. Watch this And they and they didn't set

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<v Speaker 1>the whole tone. It took them a whole year to

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<v Speaker 1>realize we don't do that anymore. We're punting from the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two yard line. And now they'll get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>to start the you know, they get the ball at

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<v Speaker 1>midfield and to start the third quarter. This isn't working well.

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<v Speaker 1>And stubborn too. I mean, I've always gotten the vibe

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<v Speaker 1>basically the whole time I've worked here, Like they think

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<v Speaker 1>they're the smartest guys in the room, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they know more about football than I do, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, and I think you see it reflected

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<v Speaker 1>in stuff all over, not even just on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>But they hire Paul Alexander, which we just tall, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really fit what they're used to doing. They're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody can coach this offensive line doesn't look like it

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Well, we don't need a badass wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>like these guys are good enough. This is what Dak

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<v Speaker 1>friendly looks like that wasn't really right either, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you can call it stubbornness. I think the word arrogance

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<v Speaker 1>applies in a lot of areas as well, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they're right. To be fair, I mean, the Dan Bailey

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<v Speaker 1>decision worked out pretty well. Right. There's another one too

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<v Speaker 1>that I oh. I mean, hey, you know, Josh, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon got dis by the Patriots last night, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after three weeks being so they're not they're not always wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I think that they can be stubborn

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<v Speaker 1>and arrogant and it can lead them in the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>direction on a lot of occasions. I've always thought next

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<v Speaker 1>man up as an arrogant phrase if you really go

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<v Speaker 1>buy it, if you just say, you know what, Tyron's out,

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<v Speaker 1>Chiles Green's in, next man up, let's go do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't work that way. He needs help. He's not Tyrren

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<v Speaker 1>Smith where he would be starting. So don't treat him

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<v Speaker 1>like the next guy. You could say that to him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great poster. Yeah, you can, you t shirt

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<v Speaker 1>all that, but you know, they spent three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half quarters with you know, Dad got sacked what's fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>times or whatever it was. Before you realize you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this isn't working, So the next man

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<v Speaker 1>up didn't work because he didn't come up. All right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you join us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>more about Cowboys versus Titan. Still then for Nick even,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Helm and I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The

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