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Speaker 3: How are you what a night of baseball, What a

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Speaker 3: night at baseball?

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Speaker 4: Say that again?

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Speaker 3: The best Jonason inspired me.

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Speaker 5: You know, once he kind of called out the fact

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Speaker 5: that he's like, yeah, you know baseball, it's been awesome.

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Speaker 5: I was like, maybe I'll watch a little bit with

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Speaker 5: the girls. Man, they were into it, they were excited.

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Speaker 5: I uh, I forgot my uh my mother in law

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Speaker 5: is gonna be in talent. She's a huge Boston Red

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Speaker 5: Sox fan. So it was kind of nice seeing the

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Speaker 5: Yankees extended a little further.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, little gouge there, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: You know, where did the Red Sox fall in the

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Speaker 2: pecking order of their sports loyalty to Boston?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 5: I think there's somewhere below the Bruins and Pats, though,

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Speaker 5: but they're higher than the Celtics, So I think it's

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Speaker 5: like probably Pats, Bruins, Red Sox, Celtics.

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Speaker 3: I think, although the Red Socks of Broads could be close.

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Speaker 2: I just I think that uh this and it'll never happened.

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Speaker 2: And I made the comment to you yesterday, but the

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Speaker 2: best of three element to the wild card round in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, Oh, it's awesome. It's awesome because right out

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Speaker 2: of the gate you lose one, you're on like you

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Speaker 2: are on the brink from the get go, and in

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Speaker 2: the NBA and in the NBA you don't have any

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Speaker 2: of that stuff. It's not to pick on the NBA

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Speaker 2: because the past postseason was was fun. There was a

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Speaker 2: lot of exciting moments, a lot of exciting games, like

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Speaker 2: all of that. We got we got our Game seven's

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Speaker 2: all of that. But there's just too much of ah, whatever,

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Speaker 2: We'll get the next one. And in baseball you can't,

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Speaker 2: like you have to get that one otherwise your your

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Speaker 2: back is against the wall and you're you're fighting for

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Speaker 2: survival ever after that moving forward.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's right, You're right, and the atmosphere

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Speaker 3: is fantastic too. What's wrong, Sticks.

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Speaker 6: Well, what's up with your cubs? I mean, we're putting

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Speaker 6: we're putting teams on the brink of.

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Speaker 2: On the brink.

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Speaker 6: We're putting teams in order of importance. How high are

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Speaker 6: they on your list and how quickly are they hitting.

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Speaker 2: Home on the brink? And uh and probably today that

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Speaker 2: today will probably be that that'll probably do it based

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Speaker 2: on their history. But yeah, they got another game to

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Speaker 2: play with and now you've got three game threes coming

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Speaker 2: up later and it's winner go home for all those teams.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Dodgers Red Series whatever that was, that

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Speaker 3: Happy to be there. And then and you look at

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Speaker 3: that game. They were up early, weren't.

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Speaker 2: They was like to nothing, they were two nothing on

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Speaker 2: their bullpen is just leaky legal. What was the payroll

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Speaker 4: Can they win it with a league? What a leaky

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Speaker 4: There and being part of the community.

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Speaker 6: And I just could remember the Rizzo years when I

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Speaker 6: and as good as our bullpen was, they couldn't get

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Speaker 6: And anyway, Yeah, so while I am not a big

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Speaker 6: yesterday and I was watching. But it's weird because you know,

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Speaker 6: Like I could see like some of them, the one

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Speaker 6: Maybe it was a fast one though it was It

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Speaker 6: And you know that was really it. And you know,

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Speaker 6: some of the people they're just not they're not made

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Speaker 6: from from this this earth, like Judge is not.

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Speaker 6: He's pretty half cyborg too, like he's a He's a

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Speaker 4: I watched, but it.

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Speaker 6: Just doesn't like really like doing analysis work or like

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Speaker 6: would I ever call a baseball game or be a

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Speaker 4: I guess I leave that to you guys.

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Speaker 6: And I've enjoyed listening to the commentary of family family

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Speaker 6: rankings of teams and and and you know, wild cards

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Speaker 6: and how interesting they are and and what led to

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Speaker 6: me jumping in, which was bulletin bull pen discussion. So

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Speaker 6: thanks for that, guys. Listen, I'm I'm happy to be

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Speaker 6: a part of them.

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Speaker 2: If there's a if you can sense the stress level

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Speaker 2: of the fans in the stadium and it comes through

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Speaker 2: on the television, I think that's good television. It's why

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Speaker 2: It's why the Penn State organ game was great television,

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Speaker 2: because you could tell the intensity. It's why fantastic stressure.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's always a good comparison when when it comes

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Speaker 6: my way and it didn't come out the way it

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Speaker 6: being a sore sore winner right now had we won

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Speaker 6: that game. I feel like football Jesus didn't want us

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Speaker 6: to win because of the type of person I would

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Speaker 6: be on this show.

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Speaker 4: To you both, you're spiteful.

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Speaker 3: Why is that? I mean, aren't you there would be

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Speaker 3: the most mature.

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Speaker 5: I'm from Pittsburgh, right, But like even what I was like, Hey,

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Speaker 5: take Oregon in three and a half, You're like two

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Speaker 5: orchard saw and I was like, oh, well, I mean

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame beat him so bad that Sam Pittman got fired.

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Speaker 6: It's like, geez, do you have as many We don't

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Speaker 6: have as many losses as Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Though I understand that.

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Speaker 5: But my season, I'm just by the end of the season,

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Speaker 5: it's gonna look exactly the same.

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Speaker 4: Buddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, hey, don't.

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Speaker 6: Buddy me when we're talking about Penn State. All right,

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Speaker 6: hey buddy, you don't, buddy. We are bros, but but don't.

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Speaker 6: But you know, buddy, when my brother used to do

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Speaker 6: is uh, what what is that on the side of

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Speaker 6: your your your your stomach, your what's on the side

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Speaker 6: your liver bleak? The oblique?

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Speaker 4: Is that what it's?

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Speaker 3: Liver shot?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, liver shot, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Buddy was the dismissive term that would get you going.

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Speaker 6: That My brother would hit me with, Hey, buddy, not

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Speaker 6: pal like chill buddy, not Jerko.

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Speaker 7: My buddy, buddy, my buddy, right right, he's going to go,

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Speaker 7: my buddy, buddy, my buddy, buddy, you.

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Speaker 2: Have any loser kids actually asked for this when they

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Speaker 2: were younger. Okay, I don't have any real friends. Can

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Speaker 2: I get it? Can I get a stuffed animal that

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Speaker 2: looks like a human? What a bunch of loser?

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Speaker 3: Are those cabbage Patch kids?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Like they look like it a little bit though, look

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Speaker 3: Because something about the way cabbage Patch kids smelled.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, really I want to sniff one right now.

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Speaker 6: Back to grown man talking and then like mouth buddy,

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Speaker 6: yeah yeah, but bud, like we we we're going forehead

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Speaker 6: to forehead on Buddy, like hey, buddy, like whatever you say, buddy,

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Speaker 6: And then when pow, when pal come out, then you

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Speaker 6: knew it was it was time to touch.

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Speaker 4: We was going to touch gloves. You know what about Chief?

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Speaker 3: If someone's like all right, Chief, that's fun, how do

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Speaker 3: you take that one?

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Speaker 6: I feel like Chief was like respectful, like hey chief,

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Speaker 6: host hoss Chief. Those were like kind of like endearing

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Speaker 6: terms like you're a bad what about you know?

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Speaker 3: B u? B Bub?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, bub is kind of like indifferent. You're not really important,

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Speaker 6: but you're not really like being slighted either, like hey, bub,

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Speaker 6: like you know.

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Speaker 3: What about watch it bub Yeah, watch.

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Speaker 6: It bub Like it's not intimidating in any way. It

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Speaker 6: doesn't make you feel, it doesn't incite any emotions. Nothing

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Speaker 6: comes from bub, you know, nothing, but buddy. Buddy is

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Speaker 6: like kind of dismissive. It is kind of dismissive. And

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Speaker 6: if you're dismissing me, I'm going to want to fight you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just fiteful that I saw those skinny arms you've got.

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Speaker 6: I've always been skinny, bruh, except my belly in my face.

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Speaker 3: Drink there's there's probably some other people who could use

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Speaker 2: On the shot.

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Speaker 4: I think we're too soon.

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Speaker 6: I'm not like Bruno. Like I'm not. I'm not like

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Speaker 2: Hey Larry Holmes, underrated boxer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're working muscles. I will jab the hell out

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Speaker 2: Now, not to uh not to deter from you know,

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Speaker 2: back to Brady's thoughts on Tribe time. Game three Tigers

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Speaker 2: Guardians coming up.

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Speaker 3: Electric at three years atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm uh no, do you have Do you have

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Speaker 2: any guardians gears it all the Indian stuff anymore?

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Speaker 5: I don't have one thing that says guardians on it. Look,

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Speaker 5: I was never whatever what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all I know is there will be enough juice

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Speaker 3: All right, That's all I know.

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Speaker 5: But here I'm not gonna try to break down the

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Speaker 5: so no one cares. What what? There is this conspiracy

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Speaker 5: theory out there is someone said to me, They're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: just how major League Baseball wanted it all game threes?

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Speaker 5: And I was like, well, okay, not all. Like obviously

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Speaker 5: that hoping that it gets to three games and that

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Speaker 5: best of is.

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Speaker 3: So they can make back their money. That's what it

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Speaker 5: I just there's like this conspiracy theory floating around there

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Speaker 5: online of like, first off, why are you complaining it's awesome?

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Speaker 5: Like these are going to game threes. It's more intense.

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Speaker 5: It's like, how is major League Baseball catching this stray

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Speaker 2: And also, if you look at the matchups, Cleveland Detroit

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Speaker 2: know each other and they're in the same division. They've

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Speaker 2: Boston and New York know each other, and the Cubs

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Speaker 2: and Padres have almost the identical record. It's not that

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Speaker 2: far fetched to think, oh, they might have split the

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Speaker 2: these other games, like yeah, it's the play it's the

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Speaker 2: an eight in the NBA and you're like, all right,

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Speaker 2: this is a waste of time, Like that's that's not

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Speaker 2: what this is. And that's why the MLB postseason is

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Speaker 2: in my mind better than the NBA playoffs, and fan

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Speaker 2: boys can argue against that. They all they wanted, just

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Speaker 2: not the case.

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Speaker 6: Is the SE in the logo from the old logos

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Speaker 4: Is it new? Is the C new or has it

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Speaker 2: Time all the Guardians.

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Speaker 6: I know that the Guardians is different, and I know

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Speaker 6: had to change the Guardian and it looks similar still

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Speaker 6: the same. It does look similar, but they had I.

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Speaker 4: Think there's like two or three different seas.

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Speaker 2: You believe you're not going to find a lot you're

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. It's it was their way around

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: The the old sea was like the top of it

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Speaker 6: It's pointed, but that's not they didn't have that in

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Speaker 5: Look, yeah, the old sea was just like rounded at

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 6: I feel like then they should use the old sea

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Speaker 6: swag man.

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Speaker 4: Like that's what I think the problem.

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Speaker 6: I mean sometimes like because you know, Washington didn't have

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Speaker 6: But you couldn't get away with the R because the

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: So but you guys got to see for Cleveland, I

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Speaker 6: use that old seed, like I would have never changed

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Speaker 4: Why change the sea? Well, just keep the sea the same.

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Speaker 2: Most of the old stuff as Chief Wahoo, which.

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Speaker 4: Was you know, the vintette. But the sea doesn't, I know,

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Speaker 6: And that gives you an opportunity to still kind of

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Cleveland, speaking of the Browns, they made a

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Speaker 2: decision yesterday at quarterback. Joe Flacco has been benched. Dylan

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Speaker 2: Gabriel is going to be the starter, with Joe Flacco

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Speaker 2: being number two on the depth chart and Shador Sanders

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Speaker 10: From the second he's been here, he's been working very hard,

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Speaker 10: practice this whole season. He's been learning how to get

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Speaker 10: and what that looks like as a backup and obviously

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Speaker 4: And they're talking about Dylan Gabriel right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's talking about Yeah, Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think you was talking about?

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Speaker 6: Well, I was just making sure that the audience out

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Speaker 6: there understood that, because it's like, wait, is he telling you?

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Speaker 3: I know you're trying to do it's a social.

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Speaker 4: Hype him up at all. I'm not trying it's a

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Speaker 6: What is the biggest headlines? The biggest headlines when you

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Speaker 6: type in Browns, the first thing you should see come up.

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Speaker 6: ESPN pundits give Shador Sanders advice, Joe Flacco blindsided by benching,

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Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel, Chador Sanders facing questions goes full full. Mine

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Speaker 6: Brown's quarterback tiers, evaluating forty one starters from Cleveland since

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Speaker 6: ninety nine. Two out of the fore headlines that pop

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Speaker 6: I'm not trying to hype it up. I'm just telling

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Speaker 2: I asked the question because I felt like, we'll.

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Speaker 5: Talk about why we're talking about him today, because we

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Speaker 5: that's why we're talking about it today. We're not talking

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Speaker 3: Is that fair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Was there any conversation at all about being number two

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Speaker 3: Sure my focus is on this game, Joseph back up?

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Speaker 5: Just accurately describe what he did, because I don't think

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Speaker 3: The door stood there in front.

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Speaker 5: that was said on ESPN and by someone who's taken

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Speaker 5: a lot of uh, a lot of hot takes so

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Speaker 5: far this year.

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Speaker 3: Do we have the sound for Rex Ryan?

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Speaker 11: An outstanding coach, all right, but why the hell isn't

447
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 11: he putting should or Sanders. We're all waiting to see

448
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 11: this Shud or Sanders be the guy or Gabriel whatever.

449
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 11: Something's missing, something's missing with this kid. This kid talks

450
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Speaker 11: he runs his mouth like he's a I could be

451
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Speaker 11: a starting quarterback with his arms crossed like this. Get

452
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Speaker 11: your ass in the front row and study and do

453
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Speaker 11: all that. If I know, the whole league knows, quit

454
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Speaker 11: being an embarrassment that way. You got the talent to

455
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Speaker 11: be the quarterback you should be you should be embarrassed

456
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Speaker 11: that you're not the quarterback now.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So supposedly this is why he didn't say anything, and

459
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Speaker 5: this is why he did what he did, which was

460
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Speaker 5: just incredibly odd.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't even know what to make of that.

462
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Speaker 5: It comes off as very immature as a response, even

463
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Speaker 5: if it was to Rex Ryan bizarre. I mean, I've

464
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Speaker 5: never seen a player handle things like that before.

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Speaker 2: There's kind of cringey, kind of all that.

466
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Speaker 6: My old thing on Dad, get out a dude in

467
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Speaker 6: Cleveland reporter, didn't he like bathe him?

468
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Speaker 4: And after they won the.

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Speaker 2: That was Cleveland as Oh that was Tim Tim McCarver, yeah,

470
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Speaker 2: the uh yeah, the broadcaster. I I don't I look

471
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Speaker 2: at it like this. If should or obviously once would

472
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Speaker 2: love to be the starter. He would love to be

473
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Speaker 2: the guy that is starting for the Browns this weekend

474
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Speaker 2: and moving forward and my old thought on it, just

475
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Speaker 2: in general NFL or anything. If you want the job

476
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Speaker 2: and you don't have the job, then your job is

477
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Speaker 2: to show why you should be the guy who does.

478
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Speaker 2: And he's done everything the opposite to where Kevin Stefanski's

479
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Speaker 2: having to answer questions about, hey, you know, Shador says

480
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Speaker 2: he's ready to start, it's a okay, Well, I think

481
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Speaker 2: all of our young guys feel like they're ready to start.

482
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Speaker 2: And he turns into a min yesterday when there's a

483
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Speaker 2: decision made at quarterback. The whole thing's just odd, and

484
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Speaker 2: I don't know why. How could you think that that

485
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Speaker 2: would get you closer to an opportunity to be somebody

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Speaker 2: that they trust. And maybe this is part of the

487
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Speaker 2: reason why some of the stuff came out in the draft.

488
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Speaker 2: Why Brian Daball was like yeah, like he wasn't prepared

489
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Speaker 2: and then he got upset when I called him out

490
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Speaker 2: because you know, he didn't know certain things, and like,

491
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Speaker 2: all these stories start to add up and you look

492
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Speaker 2: at it and go, why would they Why would Kevin Stefanski,

493
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Speaker 2: whose job might be on the line, trust his fate

494
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Speaker 2: with the Browns on somebody who you know, turns into

495
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Speaker 2: a mine when people ask him about the quarterback situation

496
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Speaker 2: there for five minutes or whatever. It was just strange.

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Speaker 4: Man oh man, go ahead, Q you want it, you

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Speaker 4: have it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, well, I've already said my part. I mean,

500
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Speaker 5: like I said, I've never seen anything like this before.

501
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Speaker 5: And this isn't like an exclusive thing to the Browns.

502
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Speaker 5: I just I think it's an incredibly immature way of

503
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Speaker 5: handling the media for as media, as savvy as he

504
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Speaker 5: is and and the family is.

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Speaker 3: For that matter. You know, you know he's been taught

506
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Speaker 3: and raised different and so's it's one of those moments

507
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Speaker 3: where you know, he like he's a rookie, He's gonna

508
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Speaker 3: make mistakes. This to me is a mistake.

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Speaker 5: It's not how you you know, handle criticism from Rex Ryan.

510
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Speaker 5: And the other thing is is like he's always putting

511
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Speaker 5: out this like I don't listen to the criticism.

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Speaker 3: I don't listen to any of that.

513
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Speaker 5: I don't belie so well, yeah you do, because you

514
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Speaker 5: just did one of the most bizarre things we have

515
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Speaker 5: ever seen as now a professional athlete in the NFL,

516
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Speaker 5: and it's only creating more stir like not for what

517
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Speaker 5: you're doing in practice or playing like one of the

518
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Speaker 5: things that we heard about Jackson Dart with the Giants organization,

519
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Speaker 5: and Breer said this, and I had reached out to

520
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Speaker 5: Dable and talked to some of the people in the

521
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Speaker 5: organization and this is like earlier on a camp and

522
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Speaker 5: they're like, yeah, we feel like this thing is like

523
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Speaker 5: he's writing like more ready than we thought, Like he's

524
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Speaker 5: more ready to take over and be the guy than

525
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Speaker 5: we thought. But we're gonna kind of stick with the

526
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Speaker 5: plan and see how this thing goes. And so when

527
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Speaker 5: you see Jackson Dart succeed and they even didn't light

528
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Speaker 5: the world on fire, but they gotta win, then that

529
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Speaker 5: was a change. And then you watch how he handles

530
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Speaker 5: the press, you watch how he handles everything. You're like, Okay,

531
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Speaker 5: that guy seems like he's ready for it. Does this

532
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Speaker 5: make anyone feel like Shadoor Sanders is ready to take

533
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Speaker 5: over the Rains be the starting quarterback? Like it leaves

534
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Speaker 5: me to think that if you're not gonna listen to

535
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Speaker 5: a guy like Rex Ryan, who's probably hearing from people

536
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Speaker 5: inside the Browns organization because there's always leaks there that

537
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Speaker 5: whatever he's doing or whatever they've seen, you know, seen

538
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 5: heard that he's not ready, Like he's trying to give

539
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 5: a little bit of advice here, Like I know it

540
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Speaker 5: comes off as him being critical or you know, providing criticism,

541
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Speaker 5: but the reality is he's trying to get you to

542
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Speaker 5: be the guy that Cleveland's hoping you'll be. You say

543
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Speaker 5: you are. I think a lot of people are hoping

544
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Speaker 5: you'll be. And so if you don't want to, you know,

545
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 5: listen to that and take that as like, all right,

546
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 5: maybe I need to look in the mirror. Maybe I'm

547
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 5: not doing something the right way. But instead that's your response,

548
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Speaker 5: I don't know like that, That to me leads me

549
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Speaker 5: to think that when he does get the play and

550
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Speaker 5: things don't go well.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think he's gonna blame? Then who do

552
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Speaker 3: you think he's gonna point the finger at?

553
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Speaker 4: He said Rex Ryan.

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Speaker 6: If I know everyone knows, that's a damning comment, Like

555
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Speaker 6: that is a that is something to really if I

556
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Speaker 6: wish the door, I wouldn't be handling it that way.

557
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Speaker 6: I'd be sitting there and I'd be thinking about it, like, man,

558
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Speaker 6: I gotta make sure I have a job. You know

559
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 6: what third string quarterbacks represent, you know what third string

560
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Speaker 6: anything represents. You're actually closer to being out the door

561
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Speaker 6: than you are in the door. Let's just be clear here, like,

562
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Speaker 6: that's that's a real You are the most expendable player

563
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Speaker 6: on a roster outside of a practice squad player, which

564
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Speaker 6: some would say third string is a practice squad player.

565
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 6: Like that's that's the reality of the position. But then

566
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Speaker 6: now what jumped out at me is again, as the

567
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Speaker 6: question was asked and Stefanski said, I'm concentrating on this game,

568
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Speaker 6: you did not because you probably at one in three

569
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Speaker 6: you would probably release Joe Flacco if you felt like

570
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Speaker 6: Shador Sanders was a legitimate option to go to as

571
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Speaker 6: a player and you would elevate him to back up.

572
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Speaker 6: You did not elevate him to back up. You kept

573
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Speaker 6: him at third string while elevating your backup to starter.

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Speaker 4: And he's a rookie.

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Speaker 6: So if you just if you take the naming rights

576
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Speaker 6: of this out of the equation and you just look

577
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Speaker 6: at this at at face value. There again, I was

578
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Speaker 6: surprised he made the team. I really was, because I

579
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Speaker 6: didn't think that they would carry all three of them,

580
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 6: and being a fifth round draft pick, I just I

581
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 6: know you get guaranteed money or you get a contract

582
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Speaker 6: out of the situation, But I just didn't think he'd

583
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Speaker 6: make the roster. As you move forward and you see

584
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Speaker 6: a team that is failing, and a failing team isn't

585
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 6: taking a more serious look and approach to how you

586
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 6: move up and elevate into the roster and how that

587
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: may play out. I think that you're now making book.

588
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 6: If I'm around the league, this is not more of

589
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 6: a personal, you know, opinion. I think it's more of

590
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 6: a general assumption and opinion as it would apply to

591
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 6: other teams, other gms. If I'm looking at how this

592
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 6: is playing out in Cleveland, he becomes a radio active player.

593
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Speaker 6: And when you look at when you look at how

594
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 6: it all played out in the draft, and how the

595
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 6: narratives were so strong towards Shador, and how the whole

596
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 6: draft was driven by Shador, and all of these storylines

597
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 6: that continue to come out. The worst thing that Shador

598
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Speaker 6: Sanders could ever do is whether for right or for wrong,

599
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 6: whether I'm gonna be me and I'm I'm a for

600
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 6: right or for wrong. The worst thing you could ever

601
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Speaker 6: do is prove any critics right in terms of how

602
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 6: you handle things. That's the worst thing that could happen

603
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 6: because now, who's gonna want to bring that type of

604
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 6: player into into their facility.

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Speaker 4: I just don't I don't know.

606
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Speaker 6: I don't know that this works out the way that

607
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 6: Shador Sanders wants it to work out. If there isn't

608
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Speaker 6: a come to Jesus moment, what come to Jesus moment

609
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 6: is you are not Dion Sanders. You are not prime time.

610
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Speaker 6: Your Shadoor, your Shadoor b Chador. Do what you need

611
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Speaker 6: to do and hope that those those efforts are good enough,

612
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Speaker 6: because even when you're good enough, the numbers game says

613
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 6: that a lot of times you're not even going to

614
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 6: get that opportunity that you thought or hoped you would get.

615
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 6: So I think he's in a tough situation here and maturity, immaturity,

616
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it, it could cost him here.

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Speaker 6: And that would be said if his actions off off

618
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Speaker 6: of the field would actually cost him an opportunity on it.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we welcome in a Thursday tradition here on

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Speaker 2: the show. He is the one and only Alber Breer,

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Speaker 2: senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. You

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Speaker 2: can get him on x at Albert Breer. And we've

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Speaker 2: got to address something that was one of the hottest

627
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Speaker 2: takes making the rounds on social media last night from

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Speaker 2: one Albert Brier. All right, so well, yeah, this was

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Speaker 2: from Albert Brier last night. In the midst of great

630
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Speaker 2: playoff baseball up and down the day, Albert Breer sends

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Speaker 2: the following quote, Wearing sliding mits has to be one

632
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Speaker 2: of the softest looks a pro athlete can have, maybe

633
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Speaker 2: the softest look. Now that you've had time to think

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Speaker 2: about that statement, any further thoughts.

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Speaker 8: Would I would like to have the opinions of the

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Speaker 8: two pro athletes that we have here with us, Jonas.

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Speaker 12: What do you think I think we don't think we

638
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Speaker 12: can contell with.

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00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: Them slider mit soft or what? What do you guys think?

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Speaker 3: Is it really necessary?

641
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's I feel like the dirt and a

642
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 5: major League baseball park has to be like some of

643
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: the best dirts you're gonna find.

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Speaker 8: What I'm saying right, I think it's to give you

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Speaker 8: the ideas that you get cleated, right, like, but I

646
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Speaker 8: mean how often?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean I.

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Speaker 12: Think every I think I think I think.

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Speaker 8: Every I think every like American kid has at one

650
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 8: point or another played baseball, right like, every American boy

651
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 8: at one point almost every had played had played baseball

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Speaker 8: growing up, especially people who are in our generation, like

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Speaker 8: we all played baseball as kids, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 12: And how often do you ever.

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Speaker 8: Remember like it being a hazard, having like here having

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Speaker 8: bare hands on the bass pass. I don't ever remember

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Speaker 8: that ever, like being a problem period?

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Speaker 3: Do you?

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Speaker 5: I guess you're also trying to navigate, move your hands

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Speaker 5: as you slide anyway, like if you're just letting it

661
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 5: flail out there to get cleted.

662
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: It just doesn't make any sense to me.

663
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: But well, some guys, actually, some guys use it to

664
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: give them.

665
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 6: They're not you're not a pro jonas he said, hold

666
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 6: on pro, hold on.

667
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: But I don't care about your whole sliding theory.

668
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: Well no, but some guys, some guys use it to

669
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: give him a little extra length on their hands so

670
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: they can get to the base sooner.

671
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: Oh god, that is that?

672
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

673
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: So are you? Are you?

674
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: Should you be considered out if he tags the tip.

675
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: No, you can't know if.

676
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 6: He tags your tip, are you out because your fingers

677
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 6: aren't there.

678
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 5: It's just just doesn't that just actually make your body

679
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: bigger to tag out?

680
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: Then get Yeah, you just got this.

681
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 5: If your theory is that it helps you get to

682
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: the bag quicker because it's you know, gonna extension of

683
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 5: your arm, it also makes bigger target.

684
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: Where are we right?

685
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 8: I mean they legitimately, they legitimately look like oven mits lvar.

686
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: What do you think?

687
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 12: It's a pretty soft look.

688
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 6: You think, I will say, considered, you know, maybe there's

689
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 6: less friction, you know, like I can recall, first of all,

690
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 6: I wasn't a good slider because I wasn't I wasn't

691
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 6: great at baseball all but but and that's hard, Like

692
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 6: that's a learned art, learning how to slide. So if

693
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 6: you're going hit first, face first and you're sliding, which

694
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 6: I would assume that that's the only time that these

695
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 6: mits would really matter, maybe it's just less friction, Like

696
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 6: you can move quicker to the bag, I would assume,

697
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 6: and and not possibly damage your hand. But like like

698
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 6: you guys are saying, I mean, it's such manicured manicured

699
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 6: dirt that that you're sliding on. I don't know that

700
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 6: it would would matter. I would assume that there's other

701
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 6: parts of you that would be you know, and at

702
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 6: risk of getting brush burns and stuff like that if

703
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 6: you slid.

704
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I don't, I don't.

705
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what the mits you know, how the

706
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 6: mits serve a real purpose? You know in this, you know,

707
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: especially if it's like at a high level. I could

708
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 6: see if it was like Little League, there.

709
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 4: Might be.

710
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 8: I almost feel it would make you slower too, like

711
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 8: just like having your hands free, like feeling if you're

712
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 8: wearing like these like frying pans, like I don't know,

713
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 8: it just feels like it would be like it would

714
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 8: make your it would make you feel slower, right, I

715
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 8: don't know.

716
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 12: Maybe I'm wrong about that part of it.

717
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: It'd probably also be hard to cons if you're trying

718
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: to do like, uh, you know, the pantomime stuff where

719
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 2: you were using your hands similar to like what should

720
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: or was.

721
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 8: Doing yesterday, right, like when you're trying to like get

722
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 8: people to understand you without speaking.

723
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was that?

724
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 4: And what about hands?

725
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 8: I mean not that I don't know, guys, it doesn't

726
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 8: feel to me like the behavior.

727
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 12: For starting quarterback.

728
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 8: That's just me.

729
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 12: It was.

730
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 8: I was that was very interesting. I guess he was.

731
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 8: He was, uh, he was. He was responding to Rex

732
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 8: Ryan and whatever Rex Ryan said on ESTM the other day,

733
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 8: which I mean, like fine, But then does that mean

734
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 8: you got rabbit ears? You know, and you're hearing everything

735
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 8: that everybody's saying about Yeah, I don't know. I just

736
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 8: like I it's it's almost hard to watch some of

737
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 8: it because it's like you're not helping yourself, dude, you

738
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like you're playing into like what

739
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 8: people are saying about you.

740
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 13: And I I don't like, Like, I think.

741
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 8: The best things you do or can do, and the

742
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 8: best things you do or the best things you.

743
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 12: Door could accomplish this year is to continue to.

744
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: Develop as a quarterback.

745
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 8: And based on everything that I know about what teams

746
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 8: you thought of him when they met with them before

747
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 8: the draft, and you know where he's been at with

748
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 8: the Browns, like and the stuff I've said to you

749
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 8: guys over the last five months.

750
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 12: You know, I just I you know.

751
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 8: He had a long way to go, you know, and

752
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 8: I think for a player like that, the best thing

753
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 8: to do is take every opportunity you have to to develop,

754
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 8: and you know, and and and blend in with your

755
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 8: teammates and and make sure that you know you're doing

756
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 8: all the right things so you're creating the right amount

757
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 8: of opportunity for yourself. And you know, when when the

758
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 8: team goes through something like you know what they're going

759
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 8: through this week, which is, you know, a pretty major

760
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 8: move when you're switching your forty year old quarterback out

761
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 8: for another rookie, feels.

762
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 12: To me like another way of bringing any attention on.

763
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 8: To yourself, you know, like should do Or gets less attention.

764
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 8: That's that's the funny thing about this is if should

765
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 8: do Or just stands in front of the microphones and

766
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 8: says like, yep, I got Dylan's back, you know, like

767
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 8: I'm I'm I'm I'm excited to see what he can

768
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 8: do out there, anything he needs for me.

769
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 12: If I can be a resource, I'm going to do it.

770
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 8: Like like we're not even talking about it anymore.

771
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 4: You know.

772
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 8: He actually brought more attention to himself by doing the

773
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 8: mind thing than than than than he would have if

774
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 8: he had just gone out there and answered some questions.

775
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 8: But he didn't even need to do that because he's

776
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 8: not playing, you know, so I don't know.

777
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: At some point he plays this season, though, right, I mean,

778
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: like the way this.

779
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 8: Thing's going him, I mean that's up to him and

780
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 8: maybe the owner.

781
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 12: I don't know.

782
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 8: I mean, like I think like I think it's you

783
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 8: guys know this, like and this is something that's been

784
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 8: like impressed on me over the years, like you know,

785
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 8: in covering the sport. It's just you know, talking to

786
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 8: the guys like you you guys have played it and

787
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 8: guys who coach it, like, you know, to put a

788
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 8: guy in there at that position, you got to have

789
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 8: confidence that, like he's going to be able to operate

790
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 8: the offense at the level that's going to allow the

791
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 8: other ten guys in the huddle to perform, you know, and.

792
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 12: So can he do that?

793
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 4: You know?

794
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 12: Is he is?

795
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 8: Is he going to be providing that for for his teammates? Like,

796
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 8: and I think that's the big that's the bigger thing.

797
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 8: And that's why I say it's up to him, you know, like,

798
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 8: you know, his opportunities and be dictated by how he

799
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 8: comes along in practice and what he looks like in

800
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 8: the coach's confidence to put him in there.

801
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 12: Does the organization want to get a look at.

802
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 8: Him before the end of the year. Sure, you know,

803
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 8: they want to get a look at all the guys

804
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 8: at that position so they can make a coherent decision

805
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 8: on whether they're going at quarterbacks in twenty twenty six,

806
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 8: whether they're going to draft one or or trade or sign,

807
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 8: trade for or sign a veteran, like if you want

808
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 8: to have as much information as you possibly can on

809
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 8: the guys that you have already on your roster. But

810
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 8: on this on the flip side, you Dorys got to

811
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 8: earn that too, you know, unless unless somebody above the coach,

812
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 8: coach steps in and says says, you know, like we

813
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 8: we have to take a look at him, Like I

814
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 8: would think that Shudor is going to have to earn

815
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 8: that in practice, and we'll see if you can.

816
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 6: Speaking of quarterbacks that are are good, Abe, you got

817
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 6: Josh Allen and you got Jalen Hurts. These are quarterbacks

818
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 6: of the two remaining unbeaten teams. I saw your article, Uh,

819
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 6: you know your thoughts on the Eagles, and I see

820
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 6: I tend to agree with you. The old school way

821
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: of playing football, the old school approach the way the

822
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 6: coaches is old school. Everything is kind of old school

823
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 6: about the Eagles, But when you look at the Bills,

824
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 6: they kind of have that same type of approach as well.

825
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: Both quarterbacks have mobility.

826
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: Maybe Josh Allen, maybe the better quarterback, may have more mobility.

827
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, you're talking about

828
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 6: a formula that kind of is working, even though it

829
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 6: might look ugly.

830
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: What's your is the Are.

831
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 6: The Eagles the best team in the NFL? Is is

832
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 6: it the Bills that are best?

833
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: Say?

834
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 6: Either way, right, both teams are doing it pretty much

835
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 6: the same type of way.

836
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 12: Right, I mean, like I would say the Eagles.

837
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 8: It's interesting because I think the Eagles are and I

838
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 8: think this is like this doesn't sound like a compliment.

839
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 8: There's the highest compliment I think is the Eagles are

840
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 8: the team that can beat you the most amount of ways,

841
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, Like the Eagles can win

842
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 8: all types of games, which I think is what it

843
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 8: takes to win in the playoffs, because you're going to

844
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 8: run into teams that are going to be able to

845
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 8: take away what you do well. You're going to run

846
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 8: into different conditions, you know, whether it's the snow, the cold,

847
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 8: the wind, whatever it is that can force you to

848
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 8: play a certain style. And you know, if they say

849
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 8: styles win fights, like the Eagles are capable of playing

850
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 8: the most amount of styles, you know, and so like,

851
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 8: and I think you saw it, like at the end

852
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 8: of that Rams game, you know, when they were able

853
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 8: to take away take one Barklay, which not many teams

854
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 8: can do that. But when the when the Rams were

855
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 8: able to take away Sake one Barklay in the run game,

856
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 8: I mean, in the second half of that game, it

857
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 8: was the A. J. Brown Avante Smith show, you know

858
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 8: what I mean, Like every critical spot they were going

859
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 8: to those two and you know, I sort of seem

860
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 8: you know, I think it's you.

861
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 13: Know, I think it's smart to you to parallel the

862
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 13: Bills because you know the Bills. I think you saw

863
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 13: something closer to their ceiling in the opener. And now

864
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 13: it's almost like they're not taking the Ferrari out when.

865
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: It's raining, you know what I mean.

866
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 8: Like now it's like we're going to keep the We're

867
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 8: going to keep the Ferrari in the garage because we

868
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 8: don't need to. We don't need to pull it out

869
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 8: and get it scuffed up. Now you know, so, like,

870
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 8: you know, at those two teams because they're so good,

871
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 8: because they're so versatile, you know, have an ability to

872
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 8: play certain styles and play all styles really and then

873
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 8: manage their seasons a certain way. So you know, like

874
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 8: do the Bills need to empty the clip to beat

875
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 8: the Saints?

876
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 12: Snow?

877
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 8: So they didn't empty the clip against the Saints, you know,

878
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 8: and and it might have looked a little tight there

879
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 8: at the end, but they were able to step on

880
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 8: their throat at the end and.

881
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: Win, you know.

882
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 12: And same with the Eagles, Like do the Eagles need Aj.

883
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 8: Brown and DeVante Smith to combine for you know, fifteen

884
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 8: catches every week? No, So, like you know, they're gonna

885
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 8: you know that they can save that tread on those

886
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 8: guys tires, and they can win different ways, and you know,

887
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 8: you continue to develop different ways to win games. And

888
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 8: I think it serves you well in January. And you know,

889
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 8: I don't think I don't think. I don't think any

890
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 8: of us would be we'll be speaking out of school

891
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 8: to say those two teams are probably not only are

892
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 8: the undefeated now, they're probably going to be there at

893
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 8: the end too.

894
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter lead content strategist at the MMQB,

895
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. What are the

896
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: Bengals do? Because I think the thought was well, Jake Browning,

897
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: although obviously a step down from Joe Burrow, at least

898
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, we saw some glimpses that

899
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: they can operate or at least stay afloat until potentially

900
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: Burrow comes back.

901
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: Later in the year.

902
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: They look awful, and I know Zach Taylor came out

903
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: yesterday and said, I have all the faith in the

904
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: world in jail, but are there options outside of him

905
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: that would make sense for them at this point if

906
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: they wanted to continue to compete.

907
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 12: Here's the way, here's the way.

908
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 8: I've kind of come to look at this.

909
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 12: Like I, you know, I when I when I first started.

910
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 8: Covering the league, I was in the Patriots fete, as

911
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 8: you guys know, and so I was that was in

912
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 8: the middle of the Brady Manning rivalry, and it felt

913
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 8: like those two franchises were gonna win forever, right, and then,

914
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 8: like you know, the Colts bottom out just the right time.

915
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 8: They wind up with Andrew lock so there their their

916
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 8: run gets extended a little bit. And then when Luck retires,

917
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 8: like the whole thing kind of went to It was

918
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 8: like like year and a year, like how are you

919
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 8: duct taping this thing together? And then the Patriots lose

920
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 8: Brady and they completely collapse, and you know it just

921
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 8: sort of like for me at.

922
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 12: Least, he kind of, you know, gave me the.

923
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 8: Lesson that like every opportunity you have with a quarterback

924
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 8: like this to go into the into the playoffs of

925
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 8: the quarterback like this is gold.

926
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 6: So you need to take advantage of it.

927
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 8: I relate that to the Bengals because I think, yeah,

928
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 8: I think the time has come for them to look

929
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 8: in the mirror a little bit and say, do we

930
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 8: really think like we can get to seven wins by

931
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 8: the time Joe Burrow gets back, which should be the

932
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 8: middle of December, right, do we really think that we

933
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 8: can get there? Because if you don't, like, I think

934
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 8: you owe it to yourself to look for different answers

935
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 8: at the position. Maybe that's Kirk Cousins. And I think

936
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 8: if you look at it, like if they were to

937
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 8: trade for Kirk Cousins at the you know, in a

938
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 8: couple of weeks, I think the number would be down

939
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 8: around eighteen million.

940
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 12: Dollars for the rest of the year.

941
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 8: For eighteen million dollars and let's call it like a

942
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 8: fourth round pick.

943
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: Is that worth it?

944
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 8: A lot of people might say, no.

945
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 12: He's only going to start whatever many games.

946
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 6: But to have the.

947
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 8: Opportunity to go into the playoffs with Joe Burrow, I

948
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 8: would say would be worth that investment. You know, like

949
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 8: if you think Kirk Cousins can come in and get

950
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 8: you to say seven and six, when Joe Burrow gets back,

951
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 8: and then you're in the playoffs with Joe Burrow with

952
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 8: a team that's developed different strengths now because Joe Burrow

953
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 8: was out, Like I would one say that's worth as

954
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 8: the investment. So I I long way of saying, like,

955
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 8: I think they've got to be really honest with themselves

956
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 8: now about their ability to create a playoff opportunity for

957
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 8: for for themselves when Joe Burrow gets back, and if

958
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 8: Jake Browning can't get them there, I think they owe

959
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 8: it to themselves to at least explore different ideas of

960
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 8: how they.

961
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 4: Can get there.

962
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: I've got another one for you. The New York Giants.

963
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 5: Obviously, Jackson Dart brings in some juice, gets them a win,

964
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: why keep both Russ and Jamis? You know, is there

965
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: not a team out there that would look at Jamis

966
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 5: or Brussel for that matter and go, yeah, that would

967
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 5: help us right now? The Bagels being one of.

968
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 12: Them, Yeah, I mean, I think I think they.

969
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 8: I think if you're the Giants, would definitely open for business.

970
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 12: You know, like I you've now you're you're in on

971
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 12: Jackson Dart. Obviously there's no turning back there.

972
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 8: And so if I'm the Giants, I would absolutely explore it.

973
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: You know.

974
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 8: Now, I think, like what I mentioned with Kirk Cousins

975
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 8: and Bengals, I think is a little bit of a

976
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 8: unique fit. You know, Zach Taylor worked for Sean McVay

977
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 8: in Los Angeles and McVeigh was Kirk cousins offensive coordinator

978
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 8: in Washington. So I think with Cousins going to Cincinnati,

979
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 8: there would be like an opportunity to sort of hit

980
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 8: the ground running there that may not exist the exact

981
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 8: same way with a Winston or Wilson, but I would

982
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 8: agree with you, like I think I think that the

983
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 8: Giants will should and will listen to any offers for

984
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 8: either of those two guys. I don't know, if you

985
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 8: want to get rid of both of them, you know,

986
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 8: because I think you certainly want to have some insurance there,

987
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 8: and you also, I think you value what you've sort

988
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 8: of built in the quarterback room over the course of

989
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 8: this year, and so having the support of a veteran

990
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 8: quarterback in there for your young quarterbacks good. But I

991
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 8: would I would definitely entertain the idea of moving.

992
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 6: One or the other, you know, Abe, I listened to

993
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 6: all the conversations, listen to our questions just now, and

994
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 6: you know, looking at all the things that are out there,

995
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: it's interesting, like different kind of comparisons. Like Jerry Jones

996
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 6: comes out and says, well, you know, I didn't pay

997
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons because it wasn't really going to improve us

998
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 6: to the level that he wanted it to improve us to.

999
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: So a lot of people feel as though.

1000
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 6: Jerry made the right business decision by paying Michael Parsons.

1001
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 6: But then I look at a team like Cleveland who

1002
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 6: paid Miles Garrett and they're a one win team. So

1003
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 6: Miles Garrett, who some would say, you know, most would say,

1004
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 6: I guess outside of you know, if you're on to

1005
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 6: debate Michael Parsons or maybe TJ Wy whoever else, that

1006
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 6: he's the best defender.

1007
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: In the league and his team is one in three.

1008
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 6: I just I just wonder when we're having these conversations,

1009
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 6: how do we measure engage when one is seems to

1010
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 6: be more relevant than the other, Because I don't think

1011
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 6: that takes away from the greatness of Miles Garrett that

1012
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 6: they're a one in three team. You know, Cincinnati losing

1013
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 6: as well Trey Hendrickson gat at, which I mean, obviously

1014
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 6: what isn't an.

1015
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: Elite deal, but he got a deal.

1016
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 6: I mean, how how should we be looking at this

1017
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 6: because we do get a direct comparison with the fact that, Okay,

1018
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 6: you could use the same exact reasoning with Miles Garrett

1019
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 6: if we're looking at it that way, right.

1020
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, well, I would say, yeah, Like

1021
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 8: I think like the trade market for those two is

1022
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 8: going to come naturally, just in that if if those

1023
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 8: teams are out of the out of the race, like

1024
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 8: the Bengals and Browns don't really need to do much.

1025
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 8: And there are separate situations, right like where with Miles Garrett,

1026
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 8: you're talking about taking on a big contract and he's

1027
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 8: a much better player, but like you're talking about taking

1028
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 8: on a big contract, right like so and and you're

1029
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 8: going to have him for a few years, So there's

1030
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 8: the risk. There's a financial risk you're taken with how

1031
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 8: much money you're taking on. But then you also have

1032
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 8: him signed for a few years versus with Trey Hendrick.

1033
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 8: And you're talking about a guy who is also as expensive,

1034
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 8: not quite as expensive, and in a contract here, so

1035
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 8: you don't have him beyond this year. So there's separate situations.

1036
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 8: But I think that that that sort of thing is

1037
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 8: going to happen naturally. And you know, I think if

1038
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 8: you're a contending team, that would be one thing that

1039
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 8: you would circle and you would look at that and

1040
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 8: you would say, okay, like what can we go out

1041
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 8: and do? And you know, again maybe it's something I

1042
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 8: think we talked about Detroit, right Like Detroit would be

1043
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 8: an interesting one for one of those guys. I would like,

1044
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 8: you know, now Detroit still got paid Hutchinson.

1045
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 12: So you know there's that question too.

1046
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 8: But like if you're if you're the Lions, and again,

1047
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 8: like you look at it like we're right back in

1048
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 8: it and we need some we need to put somebody

1049
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 8: off with Aiden Hutchinson. And last year they did that

1050
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 8: was a Darius Smith.

1051
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 12: You know that that would be a team that.

1052
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 8: Might make that call.

1053
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 12: Could the Eagles make that call?

1054
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 8: I know the Eagles had inquired a Mile.

1055
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: Scaret in the past.

1056
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 8: So I think these sorts of things will happen naturally,

1057
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 8: and you know it's on those teams then to test

1058
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 8: the appetite of the Browns and Bengals to trade those guys.

1059
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 8: That again, is assuming that by the time we get

1060
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 8: to Halloween right around there when the trade deadline believe

1061
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 8: is November fourth, that those teams are out of any

1062
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 8: realistic playoff contention.

1063
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: All right, Albert Breer, before I let you go, you know,

1064
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, do you believe that this Saturday, by

1065
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: the time the game is over between Ohio State and Minnesota,

1066
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: that the buck Eys will have won by more than

1067
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: twenty three and a half points.

1068
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 8: You want to talk about not taking the ferrari out

1069
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 8: of the garage right like I think the Ohio State

1070
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 8: Buckeyes right now, or like the.

1071
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 12: Ultimate example of that, like where they're able to just choke.

1072
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 8: Teams out and they haven't really taken the ferrari out

1073
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 8: of the garage yet.

1074
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 12: I think this week, maybe you start to see them put.

1075
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 8: A little bit more like, let you know, kind of

1076
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 8: like loosen the rains a little bit on Julian saying,

1077
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 8: I'll say they covered Let's say this one's like thirty

1078
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 8: one to seven, maybe, so they.

1079
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 12: Just cover that spread by just a little bit.

1080
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: Do you uh, do you have some concerns about their

1081
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 5: you know, limited ability attacking down the field.

1082
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: I think he's only thrown like fifteen balls yards or

1083
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: more downfield.

1084
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, like I'm not. So it can be

1085
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 5: intentional in two ways though. It could be intentional because

1086
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: they don't feel like they need to. It can be

1087
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 5: intentional because they don't feel like that's Julian's strength, which

1088
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: is a terrible pairing then with the wide receivers that

1089
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 5: they have.

1090
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: Or it could be you know, just a byproduct.

1091
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, but they went downfield.

1092
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 8: I mean like if you watch the game against sou

1093
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 8: like album went.

1094
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 3: Downfield, Albert, Albert. This is not an opinion.

1095
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 5: He's thrown fifteen balls that have gone over twenty yards downfield,

1096
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: right Like that's that's me looking at a passing map

1097
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Speaker 5: telling you I'm not This isn't an opinion.

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Speaker 3: This is me telling.

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Speaker 8: You I think You've seen the ability to do it, right,

1100
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Speaker 8: don't you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he does.

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Speaker 5: And that's why, like I'm kind of looking at it

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00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 5: going all right, like, what's what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I mean I think I I think like you look at.

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Speaker 8: The circumstances of the last couple.

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Speaker 12: Of the big games of course against Texas and Washington.

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Speaker 8: I think there were reasons why you were being careful there,

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Speaker 8: and you want to win those games. On defense, you

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Speaker 8: saw a little bit more testing of that, you know,

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Speaker 8: against scrambling and and and ou And I think here's

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Speaker 8: where this is where like you're probably looking at, Okay,

1113
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 8: this stretch, maybe you want to grow a little bit

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00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 8: more with the downfield passing game.

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Speaker 12: But the defense is so good right now. I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, is there a better player in the country

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Speaker 8: than R. L.

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Speaker 4: Reece?

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Speaker 5: He's a stud physically, I mean, I don't. I saw

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Speaker 5: a clip of him standing up a left tackle like

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Speaker 5: the one I was like, my god, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean it looked like I mean, that looked like you know,

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00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 8: Bane from Batman, Like that looks like I don't know, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I was like, anyway.

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Speaker 6: That could be that could be the name you threw

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Speaker 6: out there. Is most dominant.

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Speaker 8: Ruben Bane from from Miami, right, Yeah, I'm a trying

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Speaker 8: to see him against Florida State this weekend.

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Speaker 12: For sure.

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Speaker 4: My gosh, I was raised AYB.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: By the way that you guys got to look at

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00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 8: the Jordan a lot of like, have you guys seen

1134
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 8: that his Dane impression is unbelievable. I'll send it to Brady.

1135
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 8: But there was a play where he said, God, it

1136
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Speaker 8: was one of the lines from Batman, I'll send it

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Speaker 8: to I'll find Yeah, I see.

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Speaker 4: I saying it. I saying that, I know what you're talking.

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00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 8: Sounds like Dane.

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00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 12: Like he's miked up. He sounds like Dane.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: I mean, what a combination for that guy.

1144
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 12: Oh for sure, for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Get him on.

1146
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 4: Has the voice of an angel. How about that.

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00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: Lead content strategist at the m m QB and the

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Speaker 2: Pride of Ohio State AB.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 8: That