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Speaker 2: dear friend, Martin Weis is in the house. Martin, how

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Speaker 2: are you today? They just called me the lid store. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 2: here for a couple of hours on a Saturday, Martin.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of things going on, obviously, keeping

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Speaker 2: our eye on a game right now that looks like

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Speaker 2: it is coming to a conclusion with a sound beatdown

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Speaker 2: of the New York Knicks on their home court by

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Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics. By the way, Martin, that means with

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Speaker 2: this game in the second round of these NBA playoffs,

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Speaker 2: the home team is three and eight. Three and eight

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Speaker 2: on their home in the second round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Wow, home court disadvantage. The word guys, I'll be here

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Speaker 1: for the next two hours.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you really got I don't even know

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Speaker 2: how to follow that up. I mean it sort of

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Speaker 2: stands on its own. Look, I mean, it is what

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Speaker 2: it is. But I mean we talk about this constantly,

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Speaker 2: about playing for home court advantage and how important it

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Speaker 2: is to get that home court advantage, and year after

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Speaker 2: year after year. I mean, think about this. We had

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Speaker 2: two years ago the Celtics playing the Miami Heat right

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Speaker 2: one versus eight, and the Heat get off to a

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Speaker 2: three to zero start, including two wins in Boston, and

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Speaker 2: then Boston wars back wins the next three in a

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Speaker 2: row to get Game seven at home.

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Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, they're gonna be.

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Speaker 2: The first first team ever in NBA history to overcome

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Speaker 2: a three to zero deficis in what happened? They got

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Speaker 2: beaten down on their home court by the Miami Heat

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Speaker 2: that moved on to the finals. And then last year

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Speaker 2: Denver and Minnesota, right Denver taking on you know, defending

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Speaker 2: NBA champions. It comes to a Game seven, they have

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Speaker 2: a big first alf lete, no problem, second half, they

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Speaker 2: completely implode, and Minnesota moved on to the Western Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: So I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you get a.

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Speaker 2: Sense that we overplay the idea that home court advantage.

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Speaker 1: Is all that I have a theory. Now. You just

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Speaker 1: despite the twenty five minutes you spent in the update

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Speaker 1: studio before the show, you didn't mention that you were

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Speaker 1: going to bring this up at all. I know that

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Speaker 1: I'm workshopping this as we've talking about it right here,

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Speaker 1: right now, right right. Okay, So because I've been thinking

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Speaker 1: about this as we've seen the Oklahoma Cities the Clevelands,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily have you know. I mean, Oklahoma City's down

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Speaker 1: to to one in their series, right, Cleveland two to

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Speaker 1: one in their series, and we watched them mollywop whoever

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Speaker 1: with Oklahoma City, I forget if they were the actual

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Now, Boston, we were waiting for it

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Speaker 1: all last year, right it was like until Game five

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Speaker 1: just missing shots. I think that this because the regular

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Speaker 1: season and the postseason in the NBA are officiated so

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Speaker 1: radically differently, right that the strategies to I think to

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Speaker 1: not necessarily and this is not anck to tatum around,

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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, but everybody else's you know, all star level caliber.

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Speaker 1: In order for those teams to win fifty five to

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Speaker 1: But when you get to a seven game series, all

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Speaker 1: that variance, I think it has a major impact. So

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Speaker 1: I think the long and short of what I'm saying is,

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They're not about the strategy. It's more

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Speaker 2: I've been watching the NBA playoffs forever. I cannot remember

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Speaker 2: a year. You brought this up, Martin, about the idea

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Speaker 2: that the game is played officiated a lot differently in

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Speaker 2: the postseason the regular season, and to some degree that's true,

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Speaker 2: but I have never seen it more pronounced than in

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Speaker 2: this postseason. I mean, they are allowing a physical level

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Speaker 2: I mean, watch you watch the Knicks and what they

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Speaker 2: did in those first two games in Boston, right, and

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Speaker 2: Boston's missing all those threes, but the Knicks they were

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Speaker 2: allowed to get real physicals. You know, the end of

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Speaker 2: Game two, you know is you know Jason Tatum trying

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Speaker 2: the Celtics. They weren't going to have that I'm watching

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Speaker 3: I always said this about the NHL.

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Speaker 2: The NHL has a clear difference in the style of

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Speaker 2: play during the regular season the postseason. That is why

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Speaker 2: certain teams excel in regular season and then disappear in

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Speaker 1: You know, some of the.

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Speaker 2: Greatest, most you know, greatest seasons ever regular seasons that

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Speaker 3: For that kind of a play.

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Speaker 2: This year in the NBA, it's it's been very pronounced

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Speaker 2: It's hard to get a read on exactly where we're

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Speaker 2: going with these series. I mean, are were we talk

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Speaker 2: I was pumping up Cleveland. I go, why are you

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Speaker 1: That and their injury list us well growing and.

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Speaker 2: Growing exactly, And so that's the other part of it.

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Speaker 2: And then you look at the West. We got a

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Speaker 2: Course that game is going to be coming up here shortly,

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Speaker 2: Game three of that series. It's one to one.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean I look at for the NBA and I

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Speaker 2: said before these playoffs began, Martin, they need a really good,

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Speaker 2: compelling postseason. This was not a good regular season for

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Speaker 3: Overall, wasn't a good numbers year.

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Speaker 1: It has I think, and I don't mean to derail

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Speaker 1: outside of the NBA than the actual product of the league.

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Speaker 2: Explain.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was a you know, I know that

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Speaker 1: almost every election is like this, but this was the

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Speaker 1: most divisive election of our times in early November, right

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe if you're you know, a thunderfan they're

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Speaker 2: The NFL, you understand that. I think it WHOA From

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Speaker 2: the numbers of the number standpoint, it did not Well,

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Speaker 2: so I hear what you're saying. The numbers did not drop,

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Speaker 1: how much did they not go? That was November mark,

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Speaker 1: But then after the trade deadline people were locked into

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Speaker 2: Doesn't most people don't even know the NBA season started

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. The reality of the situation is

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Speaker 1: I think this is the biggest the thing with the

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Speaker 1: we watching the Olympics, the starting five, none of them

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Speaker 1: drawing dead. Then at the trade deadline, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: what you have now to me, with the Warriors probably

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Speaker 1: about to leave, is a game of throne style who's

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Speaker 1: going to take the crown? Because it's never been more

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Speaker 1: wide open. To me, I've enjoyed this season.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, one guy I want to call out

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Speaker 2: at least in the moment, and he could certainly. In fact,

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Speaker 2: usually I'm critical of someone and they always prove me wrong, right,

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Speaker 2: especially when it's a superstar player. Shay Gilgess Alexander was

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Speaker 2: favorite to be announced. I think it's gonna be next

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Speaker 2: where Shae gild is being the you know, MVP leading

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Speaker 2: all time season, his best year in five years, you know,

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Speaker 2: during this run, and they're like, no, no, the Shay Gilden.

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Speaker 2: Where was he? I mean, where was he? I mean

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Speaker 2: he was he was completely absent in that fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: in overtime for OKC And I you know, again this league,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned Lebron, Steph KD. You're still hanging her hat

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Speaker 2: the NBA. Kadi's team didn't even get in the player rest.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think this is the NBA is in

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Speaker 1: a great position but you have to then have these

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Speaker 2: Is people are tuning into NBA, you know during the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Where was this team?

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Speaker 1: Look how it's been going. Look how the best player

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Denver Nuggets did it as a

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Speaker 1: Excuse for that. That was a bad one.

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Speaker 2: But after watching last night, if you were, if you're

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Speaker 3: Complete no show last night.

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Speaker 2: But here was what TJ said. He goes, he was

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Speaker 4: They knew that he had a shoulder problem from last season.

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Speaker 2: you're like, okay, but think about this again. The Saints

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Speaker 2: play in a very competitive division. That's being kind saying competitive.

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Speaker 2: It's that lousy division, but it's competitive, right, And I

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Speaker 2: would imagine a guy like Aaron Rodgers have a respect

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Speaker 2: for a guy like Kellimore.

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Speaker 3: Guy played in the league.

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Speaker 2: He's got quite a track record as an assistant coach,

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Speaker 2: and you sort of getting him on his first opportunity

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Speaker 2: to be a head coach in it's the league.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Aaron Rodgers has sort of left everyone's mind.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't left my mind yet until he makes some

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Speaker 2: kind of statement one way or the other, whether he's

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Speaker 2: in or out. But it just seems to me that

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Speaker 2: the Saints could be in play because it's a team

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Speaker 2: not that far away with decent quarterback play to sneak

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Speaker 2: into the postseason and then who knows what happens.

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Speaker 4: I would be stunned if that happened, because I know

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Speaker 4: there are a couple of people I know what this

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Speaker 4: stealers who feel like if he's playing, he's going to

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Speaker 4: only get play for them. I always say never say never.

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Speaker 4: Gods could change their mind. Now, a couple of things

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Speaker 4: about Derek Carr and Aaron Rodgers. You probably don't know this,

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Speaker 4: but Derek Carr got a lot of comparisons to Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers in times of terms of style of play, athleticism, build.

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Speaker 4: Derek's maybe an inch taller than them, if you're if

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Speaker 4: you're really measuring both guys, I mean, it's really interesting

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Speaker 4: how both kind of we're seeing as a similar talents. Now,

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Speaker 4: there are a couple problems with the Saints. They're in

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Speaker 4: a team that's in transition. I mentioned their cap issues

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Speaker 4: and problems.

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Speaker 1: They've been very.

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Speaker 4: Mediocre and Steve, if you're right, if they could get

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Speaker 4: better quarterback play, that would help. They're they're not there

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Speaker 4: that that's just now, what's funny we didn't mention this,

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Speaker 4: Like the Steelers now they're all in a Rodgers even

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Speaker 4: though they traded Pickens, they don't. That has nothing to

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Speaker 4: do with it that they're still all in. But they're

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Speaker 4: not like if Aaron Rodgers look at it, they trade,

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Speaker 4: they trade pickens, and we know that he worked out

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Speaker 4: with Metcalf about three weeks ago, but they're really other

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Speaker 4: than Metcalf. I mean, they've got a bunch of backups.

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Speaker 4: I'm told that's probably gonna be rowand Wilson will wound

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Speaker 4: up starting opposite DK Metcalf Wilson by the way two

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Speaker 4: injuries last year, he really didn't play much, played late

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Speaker 4: in the season, but they're hurting there. I mean, it's debatable.

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Speaker 4: Now you take away pickings and you could debate who's

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Speaker 4: a better football team.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: a team that doesn't have quarterback questions at Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: As we saw teams open rookie mini camps. The number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick. First of all, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there's been a quarterback in the last say, twenty five

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Speaker 1: thirty years to go number one overall with less fanfare

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Speaker 1: than cam Ward. But it seems that he's just kind

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Speaker 1: of going about business and should be the day one

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Speaker 1: starter in Tennessee. Even though Brian Kelly and he wasn't

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Speaker 1: quite said it.

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Speaker 4: He will. Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that he's starting.

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Speaker 4: He's first pick over. He'll start. And remember, well, Will

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Speaker 4: Levis was not drafted by this new front office with

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Speaker 4: the Titans, and the coachesn't heard of him last year.

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Speaker 4: He was drafted three years ago in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: So when you look at cam Ward it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: You know, he played for three different schools and you

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Speaker 4: go to Tennessee. That's not a big media capital in

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Speaker 4: terms of sports. We know, particularly with the Titans, there

502
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Speaker 4: been there many times you're the only game in town.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the hockey team's got some jews, but the

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Speaker 4: football teams more popular. But it's still it's a small

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Speaker 4: media market and it's the team that's kind of everything.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Fisher was the head coach. Yeah, it's been about

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Speaker 4: Derek Henry some playoff appearances, but they haven't really done

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Speaker 4: anything special, and they're in a rebuild here now. I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you what they think. Like this offensive line, they've

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Speaker 4: completely rebuilt it. They over the last two seasons, folks

511
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Speaker 4: have replaced every starter, so they've rebuilt their offensive line.

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Speaker 4: They like some of the pieces that receiver Tyler Lockett

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Speaker 4: will finish his career with the Titans. Pharmacy Awk, really

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Speaker 4: good football player. They're rebuilding this thing here. You know,

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Speaker 4: is it going to be not for cam word It's

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Speaker 4: going to take them some time. But the thing about

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Speaker 4: Cam Warden is he's fearless. He's very aggressive throwing the football.

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Speaker 4: We mentioned our cars sort of risk averse. Very talented,

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Speaker 4: but sometimes we'll check the ball down. That is not

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Speaker 4: cam Ward Titan fans, if you're listening tonight, he's super aggressive.

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Speaker 1: They if they.

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Speaker 4: Protect him, he could be a little bit better than

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Speaker 4: you think early on.

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Speaker 2: All right, all I know is if Aaron Rodgers ends

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Speaker 2: up with the Saints, I mean, you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, I mean, any stranger things have happened.

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Speaker 2: I guess there's only one time you've ever said, Hardman,

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Speaker 2: you were right, and that's about the Broncos making the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: That was That was an and that was unbelivved. Did

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Speaker 4: you like Bo Nicks?

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Speaker 2: I did. I loved bo Nicks, and I just I

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Speaker 2: got a sense from Sean Payton that you know, again,

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Speaker 2: he was he was not projected obviously to be a

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Speaker 2: first round pick, but he was enamored with him.

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Speaker 4: Guy, you're right, and it was.

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Speaker 2: A guy he wanted and it was a rough start,

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Speaker 2: but he got him going. And I just I just

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Speaker 2: felt like bo Nicks at a certain maturity level. And

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Speaker 2: that's the difference with these quarterbacks. I mean, like, you

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Speaker 2: know this Tyler Shuck seven years of college. The guy's

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Speaker 2: going to turn twenty six years old in September.

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Speaker 4: He's alder than like fifteen players on the team.

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Speaker 1: It's a beliefable.

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Speaker 4: Hey, by the way, and you mentioned the prom because Steve,

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Speaker 4: that was a great call. Next time we're on together, Yes,

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Speaker 4: let's come up with our team that nobody's talking about

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Speaker 4: like Washington was one last year. Nobody saw the coming, No,

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Speaker 4: no one.

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Speaker 1: We'll definitely do that.

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Speaker 4: But well, yeah, I'm on that now that I always

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Speaker 4: like to take the spring to find a team.

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Speaker 3: That because it happens every year.

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Speaker 2: It's I know, every single year you can pick three

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Speaker 2: or four teams that has on nobody's radar to make

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Speaker 2: the postseason and there they are in the playoffs. All right,

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Speaker 2: great stuff as always, Adam, we appreciate. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you next week. Sounds good, Adam, kaplan are NFL inside

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Speaker 2: Always great stuff, that's for sure. Let's find out what

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Speaker 2: is trending right now and let's welcome in in a

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Speaker 2: different role, mart Weiss. The Boston Celtics finally got a

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Speaker 2: win in the second round.

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Speaker 1: They got a New York News a series two to one,

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Speaker 1: but Boston won this game one to ninety three. Game

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Speaker 1: three of the series. First game in New York Jason

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Speaker 1: Tatum actually scratched that Peyton Pritchard led Boston in scoring.

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Speaker 1: How about that twenty three points for Pritchard. Jayson Tatum

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Speaker 1: at twenty two, he had twenty two on twenty shots,

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Speaker 1: so not that efficient, but near a triple double with

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Speaker 1: nine rebounds on seven assists. Jalen Brown added nineteen, Derek

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Speaker 1: White with seventeen. The Knicks were led by Jalen Brunton

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Speaker 1: in his twenty seven points, carltony Town's out of twenty

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Speaker 1: one Michel Bridges Josh Hard twelve and ten points apiece.

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Speaker 1: And now we have some playoff hockey going on right

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Speaker 1: now the Washington Washington Capitals of Carolina Hurricanes, just under

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Speaker 1: six minutes left in the first period, scoreless in that game,

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Speaker 1: the series is tied, won a piece. And in Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball, bottom of the ninth inning, two to two

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Speaker 1: between the Braves and the Pirates. Top of the eighth inning.

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Speaker 1: This has been a back and forth game, with the

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Speaker 1: A's now take the lead. They had a four to

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Speaker 1: lead to start, the Yankees came back made it six

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Speaker 1: to four. Now the A's have his seven to six

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Speaker 1: top of the eighth inning, Brewis and the Rays in

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the fifth tie to a piece. Bottom

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Speaker 1: of the second, Phillies and the Guardians scoreless, and on

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Speaker 1: top of the second Texas Rangers have a three to

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Speaker 1: one lead over the Detroit Tigers. And if you've been listening,

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Speaker 1: you already heard it. Derek Carr has retired from the

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Speaker 1: NFL eleven years of service, most of them with the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: finishes last few years with the Saints decline thirty million

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Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed to hang them up right now. He did

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Speaker 1: not want to go through another shoulder surgery, which he

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Speaker 1: would have needed to to be ready to play next season,

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Speaker 1: and per Steve Hartman, Aaron Rodgers in play for the

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. No one else has confirmed or denied

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Speaker 1: that report. Probably I don't think it's true, but I'm

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Speaker 1: back to back to Steve him, so.

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Speaker 2: Back all right, Well, thank you very much, Martin. And

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Speaker 2: you know, if you throw enough you know what out there,

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Speaker 2: every once in a while it sticks.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Once again, we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: So before the show began, as Martin was trying to

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Speaker 2: focus in on doing updates, I interrupt him as I

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Speaker 2: heard so often do, and engage in conversation, you know

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Speaker 2: the way some people will stop.

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Speaker 3: Martin never does.

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Speaker 2: I can never really trust if Martin's really listening to

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Speaker 2: anything I'm saying. You're very good at you know, not

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Speaker 2: even not even pretending to ignore me, which I love.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I love this is why I'm driven.

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Speaker 2: You motivate me. So anyway, we were talking about the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns quarterback. So we have this sound. Guys, can

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Speaker 2: we play this sound now? I want to play a

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Speaker 2: little of this. As you know, we have Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: By the way, remember again, Dylan Gabriel, despite all the

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Speaker 2: success he had at Oregon this year, a Heisman finalist

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Speaker 2: and everything else, was projected to be a day three

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Speaker 2: draft pick, and he ends up going Day two, third

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Speaker 2: round to the Cleveland Browns. And then Shor Sanders, of course,

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be a Day one pick, maybe a

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Speaker 2: Day two pick, ended up being a Day three pick.

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Speaker 3: But both of these guys have a lot of experience.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from Dylan Gabriel first, because this is the

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Speaker 2: guy that started sixty three games during his collegiate career

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Speaker 2: talking about, you know, being a starting quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the more questions I get asked like that,

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Speaker 5: it just divides the team. And for me, I think,

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Speaker 5: you know how you know, we're in a room full

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Speaker 5: of not just us, but Kenny, Joe and Deshaun and

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Speaker 5: for us, you know, we know how important a healthy

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Speaker 5: kV room is. But also, you know, a team that

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Speaker 5: you want to be a part of, you know, in

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Speaker 5: how do you create an environment every single day where

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Speaker 5: everyone can be at their best and that's just pushing

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Speaker 5: one another, which talent naturally does, and you know naturally

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Speaker 5: it's it's healthy, you know for us where we all

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Speaker 5: go do our thing and everyone wins.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Before we hear from Schudur, though, Martin, I want to

651
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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about Dylan Gabriel. So the knock

652
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: on Dylan Gabriel is he's under six feet tall. He's short.

653
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: In other words, he's basically the same height of Tua

654
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: Tongua Baaloa, Drew Brees. He's Tyler, you know, Kyler Murray.

655
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean the idea that we don't have short quarterbacks

656
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: in this league. We have a lot of short quarterbacks

657
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: in the league that have played very effectively. So this

658
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: is a guy with a ton of experience. Obviously, he

659
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: just navigated an undefeated regular season in one of the

660
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: premier conferences in the country, the Big Ten. So I'm

661
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: trying to figure out why people are so ready to

662
00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: dismiss Dylan Gabriel as a viable option for the Cleveland

663
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 2: Browns movie. For why is he? Why is he out

664
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: of the conversation? I mean, explain it.

665
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: To He's definitely not out of the conversation. But the

666
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: reason why people are immediately dismissing him is because he's

667
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: five to eleven, like two hundred and fifteen pounds with

668
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: a light arm like he was a great college football player.

669
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: Bryce Young was the number one pig in the draft.

670
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: And that that was a mistake.

671
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't know yet. Are we completely dismissing Boce Young.

672
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm not completely dismissing Bryce Young, but I'm saying, if

673
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: you took the quarterback who was six' to, two you

674
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: made the playoffs, twice and if you Took Bryce, young

675
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: you have.

676
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: It i'm going to go hold school on.

677
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: You Doug, fluoty all, Right Doug fluty was not even

678
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: five ot nine and he came To San diego WHEN

679
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: i was In San diego his last full year as a,

680
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: starter was out The, chargers AND i asked him and

681
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: he had the answer that he's given him many. Times he,

682
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: goes here's what you have to understand about being my

683
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: height as a.

684
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: Quarterback i've always been this.

685
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: Height.

686
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: SURE i was this hide in high. SCHOOL i was

687
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: this hide in. COLLEGE i was this hide in The

688
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: Canadian Football. LEAGUE i was this hide in THE. Nfl

689
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: so my perspective on the field has always been the.

690
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: Same you, say how DO i see past the offensive

691
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: line where everyone's standing in front of me is six

692
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: five sixty. Six, Well i've always had to look through.

693
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: THEM i know how to do. It Dylan gabriel sixty

694
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: three starts in. College that's got to count for, something

695
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: and he's done it at The days got him a

696
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: third round, Pig okay round rocky. Salary All, right so

697
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,239
Speaker 2: now let's hear a different, perspective AND i THINK i

698
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: like this a lot from WHAT i hear From Shudor.

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00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 6: Sanders thank you for saying, that BECAUSE i don't like my.

700
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 6: Job here is an approved people, wrong Like i'll prove myself.

701
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: Right that's that's AND i fully self believe what those people.

702
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: Say that's just the. Opinion SO i don't truly. Care

703
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 6: they don't really live in my mental space about that

704
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 6: type of. Stuff really doesn't do anything for.

705
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: Me, OKAY i like what he. Said and again another

706
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: guy that has proven it over many. Years you know

707
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: Obviously Jackson state And. Colorado remember last year THE ap

708
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: first second thirdeen quarterbacks first, team Cam ward second, Team Shador,

709
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: sanders third, Team Gillin.

710
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: Gabriel All, Right we've.

711
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: Never had a year where two guys that were the

712
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: top THREE Ap All americans end up rookies on the same.

713
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: Team But Shaudor sanders said, It i'm not to prove people.

714
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: Wrong i'm here to Prove i'm right about my. ABILITY

715
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: i think that's a great attitude For Shador, sanders and

716
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: yet a lot of people are dismissing this quarterback battle

717
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: between these two young. Guys and don't forget they gave

718
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 2: up draft capital to Get Kenny pickett away From. Pittsburgh

719
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: The Deshaun watson, situation it's just a matter of when

720
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: you finally cut him loose and release. That and you

721
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: know all you're gonna say About Joe flaccowys he's, There,

722
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: Okay Joe's flacco's there if. Needed but some people are

723
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: dismissing this, battles saying, no, no, no The browns Acquired

724
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: jacksonville's number one.

725
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: Pick next, year they'll tank this.

726
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: Year they don't care how bad the quarterback situation, is

727
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: and they'll have their sights On Arch manning next year

728
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: is the number one pick in the. Draft and then

729
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: we'll back on this year about Telling gabriel Or Shador

730
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: sanders as much about.

731
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: NOTHING i, MEAN i think that's more all, Right so

732
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: we look at this last year was historic in THE

733
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: nfl because we had five rookie quarterbacks play. Right six

734
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: drafted in the first, round but five actually get out

735
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: there on the, field and all five of them look

736
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: like above average. Starters in THE. Nfl that is an, outlier,

737
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: right and it makes, me, honestly that's you, know asterisk side,

738
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: note terrified FOR jj. McCarthy but the fact that the

739
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is that you have a you

740
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: have a better chance of hitting blackjack At Vegas casino

741
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: than you do a hitting on a. Quarterback so If

742
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: I'm cleveland AND i am in the worst quarterback situation

743
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: in THE, nfl both before the draft and, afterwards simply

744
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: because of that guarantee money With Deshan, Watson, Yeah i'll

745
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: take two quarterbacks right. Now now did they plan on, It,

746
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: No but the benefit of it will be if one

747
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: of them, works then you could take that number one

748
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: overall pick and you can have. Action. Right jacksonville had

749
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: The jacksonville what the fifth pick in the, draft then

750
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: traded up to. Two why did they trade up to

751
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: two cause they feel they got a? Quarterback right now

752
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: they can have. Action, now If cleveland felt they had a,

753
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: quarterback they would have traded. Up you know What i'm

754
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: saying that they could have traded with much more people

755
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: to make that. Happen so that's WHY i, think, like

756
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: and you know what if, not if nobody, works do

757
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: you reck where you. Started what's?

758
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: Time Baker mayfield was the quarterback of The, Browns Wasn't

759
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: He Wasn't he drafted first overall by a team that

760
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 2: was coming off two seasons where they were one and thirty,

761
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: one and within.

762
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: Two years he had him in the. Playoffs do you

763
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: remember That Baker? Mayfield?

764
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: Guy? RIGHT i, do?

765
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah and they got rid of.

766
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 7: Him.

767
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: Unbelievable some organizations are cursed by. OWNERSHIP i think they

768
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: also got rid of the brain trusting part besides the.

769
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: Owner.

770
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: There, wow, okay coming up on the other, side we're

771
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: going to get back to THESE nba.

772
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: Playoffs it's been.

773
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: Crazy out, there but maybe some sanity is about to

774
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: show up around the. Corner we'll.

775
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: Explain this Is Fox Sports.

776
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 8: Saturday Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup

777
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 8: in the. Nation catch all of our shows At Foxsports

778
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 8: radio dot com and within The iHeartRadio. App SEARCH fsr

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00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 8: to listen. Live Steve, Harbin Martin, Weiss Fox Sports. Saturday

780
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 8: we're live from The Fox Sports radio.

781
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: Studios doesn't get any better than, this all, Right So

782
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: i'm gonna go down memory lane for a second. Here

783
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: as you, Know, MARTIN i do. That so there was

784
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: one decision that changed the whole dynamic of THE. Nba one,

785
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: decision and the man that made that decision was a

786
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: man Named Jerry, west, who WHEN i grew up here

787
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 2: In Los angeles was my first truly legendary sports hero

788
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: as a players was an executive with The Golden State,

789
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: warriors a consultant they called. Him he wasn't technically general.

790
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: Manager and The Golden State warriors had a young player

791
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: Named Steph curry that was looking like the guy they Added.

792
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: Davidson you, know he's developing into a young star in the.

793
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: League and The warriors were a mediocre to bad team

794
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: for many many. Years they finally got into the, playoffs

795
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: went out in the first. Round they had a second

796
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: year player Named Klay. Thompson you, know there were signs

797
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: that maybe they had some things going. On so after that,

798
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: year they Fired Mark, jackson Hired Steve, kerr they Signed

799
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: Andre iguodala as a free, agent and they.

800
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: Were about to pull a trade because they fell With Steph.

801
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: Curry we need a star.

802
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: Big we're going to trade This Klay thompson kid to

803
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Get Kevin. Love Jerry west as the consultant for The, warriors,

804
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: SAID i will quit if you make that. Trade do

805
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: not make that. Trade Keep Klay. Thompson you got the

806
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: potential for the most dynamic backcourt in THE.

807
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: Nba they didn't make the, trade.

808
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: And the rest is, history but not just history for

809
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: The Golden State, warriors history for THE. Nba So, Martin

810
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: i'm looking at The celtics in these three games against The.

811
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: Knicks in the first two, games they were combined twenty

812
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: five for one hundred three point shots twenty five for one.

813
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: Hundred in two games today they were twenty for, forty

814
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: which is why they blew out The. Knicks we're coming

815
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: up to the top of the, hour BUT i want

816
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: to get in this with, you this idea of live

817
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: and die by the three point. Shot is it time

818
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: for THE nba to make an adjustment in terms of this.

819
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: Game you're going.

820
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: About me five, minutes.

821
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: Okay on the other, Side i'm going to get the

822
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: answer to.

823
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: That this Is Fox Sports, saturday all, right rolling along

824
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: here on a busy Sports.

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00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: Saturday Fox Sports.

826
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: Saturday once, again we're broadcasting live from The Fox Sports radio.

827
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 3: Studios one game of the books in THE nba.

828
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: Playoffs, Today celtics finally get a win in the series

829
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: one fifteen ninety three on the road against the Next

830
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: that means the road team has won all three games

831
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: of this. Series and by the, way if you're keeping

832
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: track right, now home teams in the second round of

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00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: THESE Nba playoffs are combined three and, eight three and.

834
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: Eight so we'll see how that boats later on today

835
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: As Minnesota Timberwolves Golden State warriors get, ready and.

836
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: My prediction four in eight for home teams by the

837
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: time we wake up.

838
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 2: Tomorrow all, Right so, WELL i was mentioning The Golden

839
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: State warriors and a decision that was mandated By Jerry.

840
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: West there was actually a non. Decision imagine how the

841
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: course OF nba history might have changed if The Golden

842
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: State warriors.

843
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: Feeling, like all, right we got to start.

844
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: Guard, now we need to start, big and we're going

845
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: to Trade Klay thompson to Get Kevin. Love that was

846
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: the trade on the table in twenty. Fourteen The Jerry,

847
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: west as a, consultant, said do not make that. Trade

848
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: if you make that, Trade i'm out of. Here they

849
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: didn't make the trade and immediately won a. Championship just like.

850
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: That The Splash brothers are born and not only changed

851
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: the dynamic in the course Of warriors, history it has

852
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: changed the entire course of THE. Nba the three point

853
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: line is where everyone camps. Out if you watch The celtics,

854
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: today AND i know you watch plenty of this, Game,

855
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: martin these guys are not just at the three point.

856
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: LINE i Mean Pritchard. Tatum these guys are thirty thirty

857
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: five feet out and just gunning up shots didn't work

858
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: so well for The celtics in the first two games

859
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: that combine twenty five for all one, hundred one hundred

860
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: three point shots in two. Games they had sixty in

861
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: the first.

862
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: Game that just had mind blowing to.

863
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: Me but today fifty percent shooting twenty for forty and

864
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: a result in an Easy celtics victory because of the

865
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: proliferation of the three point. Shot when when any kind

866
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: of sports suddenly gets a proliferation of any aspect to their,

867
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: game sometimes it's up to the league to, say all,

868
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: right tell you what we're Gonna we're gonna play around with,

869
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: This we're gonna tinker with. This how do you Feel let's, say,

870
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: well let me let me start with, This, martin how

871
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: do you feel about the three point? Line becoming home

872
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: turf for most teams around THE nba for not just

873
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: their guard, play but even their.

874
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: Bigs how do you feel about?

875
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: THAT i think that we're in a season or a

876
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: generation of the same way that like two years, ago

877
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: nobody wanted to pay a running, back, right running backs didn't.

878
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: Matter you go back and look at all the champions

879
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: and be, like, oh, well, Look Patrick mahoon didn't have

880
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: a running back to, him but he didn't have a running.

881
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 9: Back.

882
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: Yea they're All hall Of, fame, Right they're the best

883
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: to do it. Right AND i think when you look

884
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: at The Golden State, warriors BECAUSE i ACTUALLY i get

885
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: your point with The Kevin Love Klay thompson. THING i

886
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: actually think that the it was The Shuston rockets With

887
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: harden And Darryl moury who took what The warriors were

888
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: doing and then like the most generous READ i have

889
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: for it at the, moment has bastardized? It, yeah, right

890
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: because you Had Steph curry And Klay thompson who prior

891
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: to this, Moment Mark jackson had said and people laughed

892
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: at him AND i know, This we're going. Back you

893
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: got to remember this is pre a lot of pre

894
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: almost all of this, right this is twenty, thirteen twenty.

895
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: Eleven Mark jackson said this is the best shooting backward

896
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: of all, time and everybody was, like, yeah all, Right,

897
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: mark hot take you know What i'm. Saying it was

898
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: easy for you to say as the. Coach and then

899
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: he continued to repeat it after he got, fired and

900
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: then continued to be on the. Broadcasts then they won one,

901
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: championship then they want to, know you, Know i'm, saying,

902
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: oh might just be the best shooting backward of all,

903
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: Time but At James harden And Russell westbrook and whoever

904
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: that rest of that conglomeration was In houston never. Was

905
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: AND i think what we are seeing now is The

906
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Boston celtics who turned this into a championship last. Year

907
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: And i'm not saying that they should take her away

908
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: or anything like, that but you look through The Eastern

909
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: conference last. Year you look at their, injuries you look

910
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: at the way that people got. Hurt you look at

911
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: the variance that This Boston celtics team has experienced in

912
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: This Joe missoula, area going down three oh To, miami coming,

913
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: back losing to the teams that are way devalued from

914
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: the way worse than the based off regular season. RECORD

915
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: i think if they lose this Series, boston the whole

916
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: idea of the we're gonna just shoot threes and everything

917
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: else be. DAMNED i think it dies. HERE i think

918
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: it could literally die. HERE i agree with.

919
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: YOU i, mean there's been a lot of us about

920
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: if The celtics do loves this, series that's a little

921
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: we got a long way to go on, that, because

922
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: let's face, it The knicks or The, knicks they've had

923
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: this habit in, years not all that far back of you,

924
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: know finding ways to lose series that they ultimately should have.

925
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: Won so you, Know Celtics city easily come away with

926
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: force rate wins and move on to the next, round

927
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: to The Eastern Conference. Finals But i'm also looking at

928
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: just THE nba in general right now and this proliferation

929
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: of three point. SHOOTING i know we've talked about, this

930
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: say it's a tired, conversation but it's not when a

931
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: marquee team like The Boston celtics has taken it to,

932
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: extremes as they, did firing up sixty three point shots

933
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: in the first game of the series against The New york.

934
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Knicks now there are different ways around. It you can

935
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: make it more. Challenging can you move the shot?

936
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Back what?

937
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: If, seriously what if you made see what's impossible because

938
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: of the configuration of the. Court you, know the best

939
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: spot obviously to take three point shots are the corner.

940
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: Threes but, standy if you expand the three point, line

941
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: you can't do it in the corners because why?

942
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: Why like for? What the premise of this conversation is

943
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: The celtics smith so many threes in the first two.

944
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: Games but it's also a style of. Play BUT i

945
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: was talking about.

946
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: It but just hold, on The celtics smith so many

947
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: threes in the first two, games that we should make

948
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: three pointers more. Difficult, Yes what the reality is is

949
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: that if your quarterback through seventeen incomplete, passes you would

950
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: run the ball. Right the reality is like this will

951
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: get worked out by going like The Boston celtics have

952
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: been the best team in The Eastern conference the last

953
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: two years and have shown that a bad shooting day

954
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: or three bad shooting days can put them in all

955
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: types of. Peril to the point The Denver, NUGGETS i

956
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: get they fired their. Coach let that sit over there.

957
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: Somewhere The Denver nuggets don't shoot a ton of. Threes

958
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: we know what they do in This Oklahoma city, game

959
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: and It's Oklahoma city. Series two games that they've won

960
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: have been possession. Possession we're grinding it out like it's

961
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: styles make, fights and depending on who you have to

962
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: go through to, win is going to be should be

963
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: how you design your. Strategy now OFTEN i think is

964
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: throwing all caution to the win and it's going to cost,

965
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: HIM i.

966
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: Think But denver is able to alter the style because

967
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: of one. GUY i, mean there's only One Nikola jokic

968
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: in this. League there's only one big that could do

969
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: the things the full game that he. Has he's never

970
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: going to be a dominant defensive, player but on the offensive,

971
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: end his ability to maneuver around the, basket take it

972
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: out when. Necessary he's not a guy that's going to

973
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: camp out of the three point. Line, plus his passing

974
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: skills are the best of any big man in the

975
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: league right. Now so, yes he affords you the opportunity

976
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 2: to do two different.

977
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: Things THIS i go back to.

978
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: Baseball remember it was a couple of years ago we

979
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: were just like baseball had hit the.

980
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Skids.

981
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: Right it was, strikeout, walker home. Run that was basically

982
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: baseball had suddenly deluded itself to the point where every

983
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: about was either a home, run a, strikeout or a.

984
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: Walk nobody was running the bases anything. Else what did they?

985
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: Do they introduced a pitching. CLOCK i was, like, OH

986
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: i don't want to see. That it's working for. Them

987
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: but they limited the number of times you could throw

988
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: over to first.

989
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Base but that but the pitch. Clock the pitchclock in

990
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: the expansion of, bases that didn't change fundamentally Base but

991
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: when the first base, Did i'll give You doug was

992
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: it brought the running game back into bought the running

993
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: game back into the, game.

994
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: Which is a manufacturing. Runs AND i.

995
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: AGREE i think it's been a great change for, Baseball

996
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: BUT i don't think that that has fundamentally stopped the

997
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: gms who ten years ago thought that, strikeout home, run

998
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: uh and fly out the three true outcomes are still

999
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: no longer the three true. OUTCOMES i think there's still

1000
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: guys are still necessarily looking for. That but LIKE i

1001
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: think that baseball had a problem with just action in the.

1002
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Field do you watch a baseball. Game the thing about

1003
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: the pitch clock now do you.

1004
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: Like the action in AN nba game the guys aren't

1005
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: out at the three point, Line AND i might be.

1006
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: That's not the whole seeing that across the league this

1007
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: we don't need to is What i'm. Saying there's a

1008
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: few people that have the strategy that, then and it

1009
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: won a championship last, year and it won a championship

1010
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: when you had the best shooter of all time by

1011
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: common parlance And Steph. Curry but overwhelmingly the teams that

1012
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: have just died INTO I am shooting nothing but threes

1013
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: have been massive disappointments in the. Postseason but From Houston

1014
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: harden to This Boston celtics team up into last, year

1015
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: if they flame out, again people are going to be,

1016
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: like you know, what maybe we should run the, Ball

1017
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: like you know What i'm, Saying maybe the strategy should.

1018
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: Change you see What i'm. Saying it's, like oh, wait

1019
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: there's two white. Safeties what do we? Do oh we

1020
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: do we used to always do with their two wye?

1021
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: Safeties oh, wait we can't make a? Three what do we?

1022
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: Do let's find. Guys you can get to the RIM

1023
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: i again.

1024
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: If you go back after the durant back to backs

1025
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: by The. Warriors who do you? Have you have The,

1026
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 2: raptors they weren't married to the three, Pointline, lakers they

1027
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: weren't married the three point. Line milwaukee not married to

1028
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: the three point. Line then you had The, warriors and

1029
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: then you Had denver and then last Year. BOSTON i

1030
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: would agree with.

1031
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: YOU i, mean you know What i'm, Saying, like here's

1032
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: the thing that is the why Aren't this is what's

1033
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: egregious About. Boston this is because this strategy was thought

1034
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: up By Darryl morey who, said, look we can't Beat,

1035
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: HOUSTON i Mean Golden.

1036
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: State how did that work in that game? Seven it

1037
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: was a.

1038
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: Disaster But i'm just saying twenty four straight miss you

1039
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: thought the strategy up, right and this strategy thought process

1040
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: was their players are too good for us to win

1041
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: if we play it quote unquote straight.

1042
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: Up we have to game the, system we have to

1043
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: game the. Math that is not the case for The Boston.

1044
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: Celtics The Boston celtics have two players on their roster

1045
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: to make over for three hundred million. Dollars all, right

1046
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: let me ask you they should be able to play

1047
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: any type of, way and they choose to play this.

1048
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: Way which is the.

1049
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: Problem understanding that it's a copycat. League all sports are that.

1050
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Way team wins and all of a, sudden you, know

1051
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 2: that's the style we have to. Adopt and that's why

1052
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: so many teams looked at The warriors, saying all, right you,

1053
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: know you discount the fact that they have the greatest

1054
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: shooter In Steph. CURRY i don't even qualified. Anymore he's

1055
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: the greatest Shooter i've ever seen IN nba. History and

1056
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: then they Had Clay. THOMPSON i Mean Clay. Thompson hell

1057
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: holds the record for most points scored in a quarter

1058
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 2: in AN nba. Game do you remember that most points

1059
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: in a? Quarter, Like that's What i'm, Saying, so but

1060
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: you don't have those kind of. PLAYERS i would just

1061
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 2: so let me ask you. This if The celtics successfully

1062
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: win the championship and become the first team since The

1063
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: warriors to win back to back, championships meaning that they

1064
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: have proven that their style of, play at least for,

1065
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: them works and there will be more and more. Copycats

1066
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: any personal bias, aside are you rooting for The celtics

1067
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: to win or? Lose because if they do, win to,

1068
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: me it's only going to take what we're seeing and

1069
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: take it to the next level in teams trying to

1070
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: copy that style of play that at least for, me

1071
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: has been a gross.

1072
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: Turnoff the thing that bothers me more honestly than the

1073
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: shot selection IS i do not think that if you

1074
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: if there is a rule that you can like fousand

1075
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: penalties and in whatever sports you name, it those are

1076
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: supposed to be a detriment through the team that commits, it,

1077
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: right that's supposed to Be it is supposed to be a.

1078
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: Negative and to, me if you start to try to

1079
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: game the rules By Hacker robinson up, twenty you just

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00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: like you should. Lose if you want to file a,

1081
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: Three if you want to file a guy up three

1082
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: with uh with so he doesn't get off a shot with,

1083
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: that you know How Oklahoma City Blue game. ONE i

1084
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: can't stand that type of. Stuff so that's WHAT i.

1085
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: Say you know, what if you are really gonna take

1086
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: your math strategy so far that you are not only

1087
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: just not only just shooting threes over, twos but you're

1088
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: also fouled like you're Allowing Mitchell robinson to dig Tate

1089
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: george's game plan and game, strategy that to me it

1090
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: should not be. Rewarded so it's almost like it's a

1091
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: cousin of the shot. Selection but all of it to

1092
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: me is go out there and play straight. Up your

1093
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: players are better teams like teams that don't have the,

1094
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: talent teams that don't have them that can't win on

1095
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: just roll the ball. Out that's for the teams that

1096
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: have to you. Know that's what the words like variants

1097
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: grew into THE nba. Parlance so like to, ME i

1098
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: just give me Good. Hoopers.

1099
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah on the other, Side i'm going to Get martin

1100
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: to side with me on something that he will never

1101
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: believe he would ever side with me on.

1102
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: Ever. EVER i love sixties. Rock, steve what are you?

1103
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: Talking, no, no, no, no, no not sixties. Rock it's actually

1104
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: related to the sports. Industry will. Explain this Is Fox Sports,

1105
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: Saturday Steve hartman And Martin.

1106
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 3: Wise Fox Sports.

1107
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: Saturday we're coming to live from The Fox Sports radio,

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00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: Studios hey for the best pregame show every. Weekend be

1109
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,160
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00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,480
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00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,600
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1112
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,959
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1113
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,879
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1114
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 2: Here tune Into countdown presented by BET, mgm Every saturday

1115
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: And sunday morning right here On Fox Sports radio and

1116
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: The iHeartRadio.

1117
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: App by the, Way mark, mcdeen OUR.

1118
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: Nba, insider is going to be joining us in about

1119
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: half an, hour so we'll get his insights on the

1120
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: game coming up between The, Warriors, teables what's going to

1121
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 2: happen with the balance of the second round of these?

1122
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: Playoffs all, right as, Promised, MARTIN i made a statement

1123
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: several months ago that you you flipped your Lit you

1124
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: absolutely went, bonkers saying THAT i was completely off base

1125
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: WHEN i claimed That Lebron james was playing his final

1126
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: games as A Los Angeles. Laker and Now lebron has

1127
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: spoken out again about the possibility of. Retirement he talked

1128
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: about his daughter being on a traveling volleyball. Team he's

1129
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: got a lot of games to see. There he has

1130
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: made it clear To lukadancic that you should not be

1131
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: making any decisions on your future based on my. Future

1132
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 2: you're twenty, Six i'm. Forty we're at different times of our.

1133
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: Career and then there is the reality that If Lebron

1134
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: james does return to The lakers at the tune of

1135
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 2: fifty two million, dollars that it will give The lakers

1136
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: very little wiggle room with their existing contracts to get

1137
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 2: a big man of, consequence which they so desperately, need

1138
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: and they were totally exposed in the series against The

1139
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: minnesota Timber. Wolves so will you now come on board

1140
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: with me and can see the fact That Lebron james

1141
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: will not be wearing A lakers, uniform whether it's retirement

1142
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: or he opts out of his player, option decides to

1143
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: join another, team or somehow agreed to a trade to

1144
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: obviously a team of his, choice but That Lebron james

1145
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: will not be A laker for the twenty five to

1146
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: twenty six. Season are you on board with?

1147
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: That you since now taking those goalposts up on this

1148
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: initial take and move them back a few yards because

1149
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: retirement was not a part of this initial. Take your

1150
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: take was The lakers are going to Trade Lebron.

1151
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: James, no, no, no he he switched it.

1152
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 10: Up as you, KNOW vj And hartman have a show

1153
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 10: together On, sundays and that he really wanted to Get

1154
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 10: vj's take on this with me as on the show as,

1155
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 10: well because Obviously harmon you, KNOW i don't agree with

1156
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 10: you on this as. Well, okay he switched it up

1157
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 10: to retirement on That sunday because.

1158
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: My premise to, you he, said was how do The

1159
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: lakers make a trade With Lebron james and get? Better

1160
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: that was my. Response DO i Think Lebron james could? Retire? Absolutely.

1161
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: DO i think there's a way in the world that

1162
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: The lakers are a better team next year Using Lebron

1163
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: james as a chip of some. SORT i don't see that.

1164
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: POSSIBLE i think the only way The lakers are a

1165
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: better team than they are next year than this year

1166
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: Using lebron as If lebron's on the.

1167
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: Court all, right seven Years lebron's been with The, lakers

1168
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: and in five of those years they didn't get past

1169
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: the first round the. Playoffs, twice they missed the playoffs

1170
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: three times out in the first round of the, playoffs

1171
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: one run to The Western Conference finals and The Bubble.

1172
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: Championship that's the seven years That lebron has been A.

1173
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 2: Laker what was the fourteen? Before, Well, no the five

1174
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: years before that they missed the playoffs five straight.

1175
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Years, okay.

1176
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: Okay by the, way let's also keep in mind, this

1177
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: in the first sixty two years that The lakers.

1178
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: Were in THE, nba dating back to Their minneapolis.

1179
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: Dates first sixty two, years which ended when they beat

1180
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: The celtics in the twenty two to twenty TEN Nba,

1181
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: finals in sixty two, years The lakers have been to

1182
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: the finals thirty one.

1183
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 3: Times half think about, that thirty.

1184
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: One of the sixty two years they had made it

1185
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: to the. Finals you know how many times have been

1186
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: in the finals in the last fifteen? Years?

1187
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: Once how?

1188
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: Many, Steve it is time to make a.

1189
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: Change, yeah The original six all have way more playoff

1190
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: berths than the rest of the Other.

1191
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: What are you talking?

1192
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: About twenty ten is not you, Know i'm not Talking

1193
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: original Six When i'm talking about twenty, ten the others

1194
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: were in THE nba finals on a regular.

1195
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: Basis i'm talking about the last twenty five. Years like

1196
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: in the last twenty five, years The lakers have been

1197
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: in THE Nba finals a handful of, times as well

1198
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: as The Miami heat as well as The Golden State,

1199
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: warriors as they've only.

1200
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: Been there once in the last fifteen.

1201
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: Years and they've only been there once Since lebron joined the.

1202
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: Team but, okay so many in The.

1203
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: What is my problem is that there seems to be

1204
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: this idea and This i'm gonna Use shay as an

1205
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: example of this Because shay is too young to remember

1206
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: WHAT i was talking. About, Okay shade's from a different

1207
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: generation where it was. Right so these Set so when

1208
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: we go back, now since the end of the twenty thirteen,

1209
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: seasons so basically The Genie bus, era in these twelve

1210
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: years twelve, years, okay the last twelve, years The lakers

1211
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: have missed the playoffs seven, times been eliminated in the

1212
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: first round three, times one run to The Western Conference,

1213
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: finals and One bubble. Championship that's their legacy over the

1214
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: last twelve, years meaning they are. Irrelevant, now can we

1215
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: make this. Clear it's, like AND i say this about

1216
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: MY Ucla. Bruins oh you, Know, john what an era

1217
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: and years that you keep jumping around because, okay so

1218
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: The lakers aren't even to make a.

1219
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: Change the answer is to Trade Lebrun like that's if

1220
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: you want to say The lakers, irrelevant that's a different

1221
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: The lakers get.

1222
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: Either the key is eliminate him from the, roster whether

1223
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: it's the, retirement, trade free, agency, whatever they need to

1224
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: get that fifty million off the books and apply it

1225
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: to start to build a team around.

1226
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: Twenty five next, year he's got a player option the

1227
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: opside and the option for half of.

1228
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: That then what he has a player option for fifty

1229
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: two million if he if he signs it to be

1230
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: with The, lakers that's what he's going to get. Paid

1231
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: AND i, say, okay but let's slide sign decided he

1232
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: could decide the ops out of the ups two.

1233
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: Million signs for twenty five, million for the designs for

1234
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: seventy five, million are seventy million over three?

1235
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 3: Years, Okay well then, okay then that's something you could work.

1236
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: With, okay but that's not just get him off The roffler,

1237
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: Regardless like.

1238
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: No there's a, word there's no world WHERE i. Mean,

1239
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: Look i'll get back To shae for a. Second i'll

1240
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: tell you. What, okay we'll finish this conversation on the other.

1241
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: Side but right, now let's find out what is. Trending

1242
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: let's Bring Martin weiss in to give us an update

1243
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: on a very busy day in.

1244
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: SPORTS a bunch Of Major league. Baseball brewer Raised brewers

1245
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: and The rays tied to a piece the bottom of

1246
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: the ninth. Inning top of the sixth, ending The phillies

1247
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: have a one to run lead over The. Guardians top

1248
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: of the fifth, inning The rangers have a five to

1249
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: two lead over The. Tigers Red sox And royals scoreless

1250
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: through two or through one, rather top of the first.

1251
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: Inning reds with a five nothing lead over The. Astros

1252
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: White sox got a run over The marlins the top

1253
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: of the second, inning and two to nothing Met cubs

1254
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: over The. Mets that game's On. Fox that game's also

1255
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: just getting. Started haven't even got the first three outs.

1256
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: There bottom of the first. Inning giants And twins. Scoreless

1257
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: that game also On. Fox capitals And hurricanes ten minutes

1258
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: left in the second, period. Scoreless so, far that series

1259
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: tied one game. Apiece That's game. Three we saw a

1260
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: game three earlier today in THE nba where The Boston

1261
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: celtics beat The New York knicks one fifteen to ninety,

1262
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 1: Three boston going twenty five for forty on three point

1263
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: terers after going twenty five four one hundred in the

1264
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: last two. Games so you know that'll help you a lot.

1265
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: More now back to us because we got to finish this.

1266
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: Conversation that's all that's going on in.

1267
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: Sports all, right once, again we're coming to live with

1268
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,200
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1269
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,120
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1270
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,920
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1276
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: Air all, Right i'll defer to one of you two right. Now, Okay,

1277
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: shay you wanted to jump in and beat.

1278
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: Late i'm. Here It's, shay all.

1279
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: Right So martin brought up SOMETHING i honestly hadn't thought

1280
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 2: a lot about the idea That lebron would take less

1281
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: than half rework a, deal take less than half to

1282
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: open up cap space for The lakers to get a

1283
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: big that would actually have some consequence in terms of

1284
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: success on the.

1285
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 3: Court, YEAH i don't see that.

1286
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: Happening bring it up, quickly because last summer there were

1287
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: reports That lebron was willing to take less to get

1288
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: The rose and or valancunis in. There SO i don't

1289
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: think it's out of the.

1290
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: Question, WELL i think it's much more reasonable than he

1291
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: could say that all of this is a what.

1292
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 10: If anyway you can say, that because all of this

1293
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 10: is a what. If everything we're saying is what. If

1294
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 10: so you could say that you can ever think about the,

1295
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 10: future is What that's What i'm. Saying so it's it's

1296
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 10: it's not completely out of the, possibility the same Way

1297
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 10: lebron retiring is not completely.

1298
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: Out but SAY, i as a Young laker, fan do

1299
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: you feel like winning a? Championship AND i go back

1300
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: to What kobe used to say to my, face two

1301
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: greats for a SEASON a in other, words win a

1302
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: championship or f you didn't win a, Championship, yes even

1303
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: if you get it got to THE nba, final there's two, yeah, right, Yeah,

1304
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,919
Speaker 2: Okay i'm just. Checking so do you believe with then

1305
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: forty one year Old lebron on the roster next year

1306
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: with fifty two million dollars in the bank coming his,

1307
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: way is that the ingredient you need to win a Champion.

1308
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 10: So if he was to get to fifteen to two

1309
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 10: million and. Not, okay well that's his player.

1310
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 1: Option.

1311
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 10: Yeah do you think it would be better for? Us

1312
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 10: OR i think it would be the. SAME i mean

1313
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 10: we the, same it's not gonna. WAIT i think him

1314
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 10: And luca basically didn't have as much synergy or energy

1315
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 10: in terms of on the court together that they will

1316
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 10: this next.

1317
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: Season well they are the same, player aren't they?

1318
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 10: Not but they didn't have an entire offseason to work

1319
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 10: off with the workout. Together well you can change what

1320
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 10: do you mean you get way more time with the. Tween,

1321
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 10: yes it's gonna be a completely different.

1322
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: Stuff.

1323
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: Okay SO Jj reddick was speaking about the fact we

1324
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: got to get in championship, shape which was obviously a

1325
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 2: direct knock On Luka, Doncic and of course my thought

1326
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: is WITH, jj how would you know about championship? Shape

1327
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: have you ever been part of a championship team at any?

1328
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 3: Level, see this is the.

1329
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: Thing that gets me about the whole your your the

1330
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: premise of your ARE i know.

1331
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: This when they brought In Phil, jackson a lot of

1332
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: people pooh pooh the signing in nineteen ninety, nine immediately

1333
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: said he'll win a. Championship oh why because he knows

1334
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: how to win championships and he.

1335
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: Did but the re so, like but you're holding This

1336
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: lakers standard to a standard that The lakers no longer

1337
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: hold themselves. To okay that now you've hit the nail

1338
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: on the, head, Right But i'm saying and that's.

1339
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: UNFORTUNATE i don't.

1340
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: Think the, answer to be, CLEAR i don't think the

1341
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: answer is trade your second or move, something remove your

1342
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: second best player from The. York but like when you're

1343
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: looking at organization that is on this is their third

1344
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: first year head coach in a.

1345
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: Row, yeah, right and who two weeks.

1346
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: Prior to taking the job was on a. Podcast, yeah

1347
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: he was a, Podcaster like.

1348
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: And just manufacture one of the worst coaching playoff performances

1349
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: of all.

1350
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: Time it's so like you you want to talk about

1351
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: The lakers gotta win. Championships lebron needs to moment like

1352
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: they if they wanted to win? Championship do you know

1353
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: what they really should do if they want to win a?

1354
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: Championship not Fire, lebron Fire jay Z ready can Hire

1355
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: Michael malone because he's the last guy who's. Available that's

1356
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: a pretty damn the coach to do.

1357
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 10: It how do you feel about that. SHAPE i, MEAN

1358
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 10: i was talking about. It maybe they could go out

1359
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 10: and Get Michael. Malone but in the, END i don't

1360
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 10: think they're gonna do It LEBRON'S i don't think they Will.

1361
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 3: Lebron lebron is still calling the. Shots how's that?

1362
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 10: Work if that's What i'm, saying that's Why lebron will

1363
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 10: be wearing A laker jersey next year Like Michael.

1364
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: Malone If lebron is it gonna be, THERE jj.

1365
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 2: Redicksucking, Okay so then you agree and HE bori said

1366
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: he for a CHAMPIONSHIP.

1367
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 3: F if you, don't that means ANOTHER.

1368
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: F you think they'll win a championship next year with

1369
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: Essentially saint coach saint.

1370
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 3: Roster you, know Just i've had have a better chance

1371
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 3: that they did this.

1372
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: Year, YEAH i. DON'T i don't see what's the exact.

1373
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: TEAM i think they'll have a better chance if The

1374
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: lakers bring back a roster plus a seven foot person

1375
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: with a pulse that can, JUMP i don't see how

1376
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: they're not.

1377
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: Better, yeah we, Really that's all you need is a.

1378
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: Pulse they had guys with a pulse That adam.

1379
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: Probably the two worst centers in the.

1380
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 3: Playoffs and who's responsible for, That i'd Be Rob.

1381
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: Pullin, yeah that's who just.

1382
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 3: Got, promoted by the, way with the great stuff he's been.

1383
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: Doing that's kind of my. Thing Rob polinka had a

1384
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: championship roster in twenty twenty and then systematically dismantled it for,

1385
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: good for, better or for worse to Get Anthony david

1386
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: so like to make all the different, moves all, right

1387
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: he picks up the phone For Nico harrison to go

1388
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: ahead and go ahead and make them what many diseemed

1389
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: to be the worst trade IN nba. History so congratulations

1390
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: for having your fringer. On but since that moment and

1391
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: prior to there hasn't been much. Happening, no and so

1392
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: like to WHY i say IS i think that you

1393
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: are Using lebron as a proxy for a ton of

1394
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: other issues that The lakers.

1395
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: HAVE i just have wonder moving forward With, luca he

1396
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: has to understand with all those legendary names on the

1397
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: walls there that if you don't get to that, level

1398
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: you're an F i said that When lebron joined The,

1399
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: lakers you don't want a, championship, dude you fail with The.

1400
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: LAKERS i think now it's headed off To Luka.

1401
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 11: Doncic AND i, say if he's up to, IT i

1402
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 11: think that right, now if you, ask AND i don't

1403
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 11: think this is even just sick a, Fan laker fan

1404
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,959
Speaker 11: or you know people who are here in the, THERE

1405
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 11: i think that if you, asked Is Lebron james a Great,

1406
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 11: LAKER i think the answer is.

1407
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 3: No, well, no you're not gonna put us.

1408
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 10: Statue Of Lebron. James there will be a statue Of

1409
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 10: Lebron jacks. Crypto it's because It's Lebron james.

1410
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: Going to be a. Statue but you, say if you're Ranking.

1411
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: No all Time, LAKERS i don't think That bron cross

1412
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: the top. Five he might be five, Five really give

1413
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: Me jerry, West Aljim, Baylo Magic, Johnson Kareem Abdul, Jabbar

1414
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: Shaq kobe five, seven seven, Seven he's not even in

1415
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: the TOP i forgot About.

1416
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: Shaq you.

1417
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: FORGOT i think.

1418
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: He's five to, ten but closer to ten than five y.

1419
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: Seven he's a good, Seven, Okay i'm.

1420
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 3: Here by the, WAY i will say.

1421
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: THIS i still Say Lebron is has the greatest resume

1422
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: of any player in the history of THE.

1423
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: Nba, yeah that's player in the no doubt about.

1424
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: That, yeah most of all.

1425
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: Time but he's a he's a, cavalier he's not A,

1426
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 2: laker he's not a heat all. Right coming up on

1427
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 2: the other, side we'll check in with OUR nba Insider

1428
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: mark Medinat this Is Fox Sports, Saturday.

1429
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,919
Speaker 3: Steve, Hartman Martin. Wise Here Fox Sports.

1430
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: Saturday we're coming alive from The Fox Sports radio. STUDIOS

1431
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: i want to thank our supporting crew. Today martin doing

1432
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 2: a great job on updates as. Well Today man the

1433
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: master of the. Board he knows how to run. Everything

1434
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: shay is our brilliant. Producer he brings his a game

1435
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: all the, time single.

1436
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 9: Time living the dream once again and joining us right

1437
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 9: now living the dream is Our Fox Sports RADIO nba

1438
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 9: Insider Mark medina and them that wears many hats as,

1439
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 9: well coming fresh off HIS tv work to.

1440
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 2: Join us for a few. Moments steve is.

1441
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: One of those, hats like the psychiatrist hat because he's

1442
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: got to talk you off of his. Ledge But medina

1443
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: helped you boy.

1444
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 2: Out, Okay i'm not, Okay so all, right before we

1445
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: get to the current playoffs, again we're talking about The

1446
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: lebron situation because he went on With Steve, nash and you,

1447
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: know he, said, Really I'M i.

1448
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: RETIRE i don't. KNOW i REALLY i have to sit.

1449
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: Down my daughter's on a traveling volleyball team right. Now

1450
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: and he, GOES i absolutely SWEAR i have not made

1451
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: up my mind about my future in THE.

1452
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: NBA i Thought martin brought up a very good.

1453
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 2: Point how about taking way less money on a restructured

1454
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: deal to allow The lakers to add the necessary big

1455
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: time players not just big, bodies but guys that actually

1456
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 2: can play with some level of consequence in terms of

1457
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: wins and.

1458
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 3: Losses so how is this all going to? Play Because,

1459
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: MARK i know you know the.

1460
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: ANSWER i know you know the answer on the future

1461
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 2: of The lakers and what's going to happen in terms

1462
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: Of lebron's involvement with the future of The.

1463
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 7: Lakers, yeah, see there's a lot of unnecessary. Uncertainty lebron isn't.

1464
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 7: Retiring he's coming. Back and the reason is he has

1465
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 7: a fifty two million dollar. Contract he can even opt

1466
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 7: out of it to get a larger. Deal Brodny james

1467
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 7: is still on the team and he still has a

1468
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 7: chance to be having a premier role on The. Lakers

1469
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 7: so all this talk about, retirement remember when he did

1470
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 7: that two years, ago he wound up saint andrematic speech

1471
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 7: at THE sps that he's back when no one else

1472
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 7: wondered whether he was coming. Back that's number. One number,

1473
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 7: TWO i don't See lebron taking a pay, cut not

1474
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 7: just because oh, yeah he wants to make as much,

1475
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 7: money but practically, speaking even if he did shave his contract,

1476
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 7: down The lakers still wondn't have enough cap space to get.

1477
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 7: Players and so when you look At lebron's history when

1478
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 7: he Joined miami and made that, decision that was possible

1479
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 7: partly because he took a pay, cut but there was

1480
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 7: a practical component that allowed them to Get chris bosh over,

1481
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,919
Speaker 7: there get a supporting. Cast in this, Case Luca dodgers

1482
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 7: are signing an, extension they already have a lot of

1483
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 7: commitments to other players under contract that there's not enough

1484
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 7: tap holes and free agent vacancies that's going to really

1485
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 7: create cap space to make a run. Anyway but let

1486
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 7: me ask you this.

1487
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: Mark just for a point of, clarification because last year

1488
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: they had the reports That lebron was willing to take

1489
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: a little less to get a guy like the Rosen

1490
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: in or a guy like valancewn Is in like it

1491
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: was very. MUCH i will take this a minute small

1492
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: cut to get two or three guys in is. There

1493
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: are you saying that is not a possibility this?

1494
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 7: Summer, no but, yeah it's not a. Possibility And i'm

1495
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 7: saying it's not a, possibility not just Because leron probably

1496
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 7: want to want, to but even if he, did, STRUCTURALLY

1497
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 7: i want to be able because there's no players that

1498
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 7: are off their books that make sizeable contracts right. Now

1499
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 7: the players that we're talking about are all role players

1500
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 7: that aren't making a lot of relative. Money and so

1501
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 7: What i'm getting at, is even If lebron, decided, Hey

1502
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 7: i'm going to make this, cut they're. Not it's not

1503
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 7: going to still enough to be able to make a

1504
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 7: significant deal or go after a significant free. Agent so

1505
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 7: what's going to happen is he is probably going to opt. Out,

1506
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 7: now he might take a relative cut with this new

1507
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 7: deal just so they're below the second, apron but it's

1508
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 7: not going to be. Significant AND i don't think well

1509
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 7: knowing how they are going to try to pressure, him

1510
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 7: because they've been of the mind whether your career with

1511
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 7: it or not that they want to, reward you, know

1512
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 7: their star players because that's part of their. Brand so

1513
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 7: that's what's.

1514
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: Going to, happen all, Right so len'b be. Something, though

1515
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: if he came in and, said, yeah forget the fifty two,

1516
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: MILLION i won a three year, deal first two years

1517
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: guaranteed sixty million, Plus lakers answer to him would be.

1518
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 7: NO i think that's a different. CONVERSATION i think that

1519
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 7: if it's a two year, deal they'll work with. Him

1520
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 7: if they're talking, three, four five, years then it starts

1521
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 7: getting into uncomfortable territory Because lebron is forty years, Old

1522
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 7: he's in his twenty second, season still playing at an

1523
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 7: All star caliber. Level but as we, saw you, know

1524
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 7: during the, playoffs we saw father time getting the best of.

1525
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 7: Them we have since found out he was dealing with.

1526
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 7: Injuries he's been dealing with injuries all. Season BUT i

1527
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 7: think With, LEBRON i think the litmus test for, him

1528
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 7: he's going to keep playing as long as he can

1529
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 7: play at All star caliber. Level whether you know you

1530
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 7: agree with how he does things behind the scenes or.

1531
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 7: NOT i do think that he's at least very self

1532
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 7: aware that he doesn't want to end his career The

1533
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 7: Vince carter. ROUTE i Mean Vince, carter it was admirable

1534
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 7: what he was, doing but he's a different kind of.

1535
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 7: Player where the end of his career was being a

1536
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 7: role player off the. Bench lebron is not going to do.

1537
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 7: That SO i think he's going to be very, calculated

1538
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 7: which he does a very good job with whether it's

1539
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 7: a good thing or a pet, thing and, Assess, okay

1540
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 7: ONCE i stop playing at An All star caliber, level

1541
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 7: that's when he'll. Go and that's the that's the gray

1542
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 7: area Here. Lebron he's not playing as the best player

1543
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 7: in the league, anymore but he's still playing at All

1544
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 7: star caliber. Level so where's that sweet? Spot so with,

1545
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 7: THAT i think it's two more years and then he'll

1546
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 7: call it a, career all.

1547
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,759
Speaker 2: Right Which number one seeds in bigger? Trouble cleveland Or Oklahoma?

1548
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 1: City good.

1549
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 7: QUESTION i would Say Oklahoma city Because denver has ANOTHER

1550
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 7: Mvp cando With nicole O. Kich they've been playing completely

1551
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 7: different than they've been the regular season because They're Championship corps.

1552
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 7: Players With Jamal, Murray Aaron, gordon And Michael Ford. Junior

1553
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 7: they're all healthier and effective and they're relying on their vet,

1554
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 7: players not their young. Guys With, CLEVELAND i think that

1555
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 7: they're still going to win this series because they're starting

1556
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 7: to get, healthier AND i Think indiana they kind of

1557
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 7: call it laid in a bottle and now it's going

1558
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 7: to come back down to.

1559
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: Earth, now speaking of back down to, earth any chances

1560
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: that The warriors, HAD i think of winning a championship

1561
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: skyrocketed our plummet THAT i should, say right back down

1562
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: on the, earth so That Steph curry limped with that.

1563
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: Hamstring at least that's my. Opinion but they did get

1564
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: the game, won and then In game, two if you

1565
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: wore a yellow and blue, jersey you got to. PLAY

1566
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: i felt Like Steve kerr was, figuring can anybody who's

1567
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna give me to the next couple of games of this?

1568
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: Series if anybody is At Pat spencer is at Gist,

1569
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: antos is it whoever the hell's out? There what's your

1570
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: take on The warriors trying to extend this series For,

1571
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: steph or even to win this series For steph and

1572
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,959
Speaker 1: extend this whole Essentially steph's career as a competitive postseason.

1573
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 7: Player, yeah, well see your broader, Question ken The warriors

1574
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 7: win a championship Without Steph, curry no. Way, now The

1575
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,839
Speaker 7: warriors still know when he'll come. Back these are delicate

1576
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 7: injuries with hampsournies because it's not just a pain tolerance.

1577
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 7: Issue it's a if you rush back too, soon you

1578
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 7: could make one bad move and all of a, sudden

1579
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 7: you're out for even. Longer so they do have it.

1580
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,520
Speaker 7: Takes they do have what it takes to Beat minnesota

1581
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 7: because they do have a good defensive. Team, Now Draymond,

1582
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 7: green he's got to avoid all these technicals because he's

1583
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 7: only two more away from into. Suspension so that's number.

1584
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 7: One number, two it's got to be Playoff. Jimmy, NOW i,

1585
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 7: mean this is what they signed up for, now is

1586
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 7: to Get Tommy bulwer Of Steph curry some. Help but

1587
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 7: we've seen him guide A Miami heat team to THE Nba.

1588
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 7: Finals so frankly is less talented than the Current Golden State,

1589
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 7: Warriors so he has to up his scoring. Up doesn't

1590
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 7: have to be high volume, scorer but he's going to

1591
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 7: have to raise it. More and then they got to

1592
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 7: get more three point shooting help because when you look

1593
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 7: At game, two players that routinely make threes Like Moses,

1594
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 7: Moody Brandon, Ponzevski Jimmy. Butler they weren't firing, consistently so

1595
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 7: they're going to have to hit on all. That and

1596
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 7: now In farness And, minnesota they are a legit. Team

1597
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 7: Athony edwards has raised his game in another. Level Julius

1598
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 7: randall has become more polished with knowing how to use

1599
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 7: his intensity as a playmaker without being. Reckless and they're

1600
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 7: a great defensive team when you look At Rudy gobert

1601
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 7: at the, rim a lot of great wing players starting

1602
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 7: With jada. McDaniels that they're going to have their hands.

1603
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 7: Full BUT i think The warriors do have what it

1604
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 7: takes to win this. Series BUT i think one's going

1605
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 7: to come down to this is that whoever wins game

1606
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 7: for you To i's gonna win because that sets the

1607
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 7: tone and that gives a good direction on which team

1608
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 7: is equipped to make a run out of.

1609
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: It you MENTIONED okc in trouble going against a veteran

1610
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 2: team Like. Denver i'm watching that game And i'm, like

1611
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 2: where's THE, mvp Where's Shake Gildgess. Alexander you, know it's

1612
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: really interesting BECAUSE i was looking at the voting for

1613
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: The Clutch player of The year That brunson won and

1614
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 2: Shake gil just finished eighth in the, voting did not

1615
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 2: get a single first place. Vote and THEN i watched

1616
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: yesterday's fourth quarter in the overtime when he completely, disappeared

1617
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: and NOW i know. Why so remind me again how

1618
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: Shake Gil alexander is the most valuable player in THE.

1619
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 7: Nba, well let me get some contact on The Clutch Player. Award,

1620
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 7: it's you, know awarding players that are really good in crunch.

1621
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 7: Time AND i think when you're looking at The, thunder

1622
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 7: they've hadn't had a lot of close games because they've

1623
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 7: been blowing teams. Out SO i think that's where it.

1624
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 7: Happened but to your broader point About, Shay, yeah this

1625
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 7: was unacceptable for him to have this kind of performance

1626
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 7: when he is the FAVORITE mvp. CANDIDATE i MEAN i

1627
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 7: was talking to different its as the coaches around the

1628
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 7: way a few weeks, ago and they all Favored shay

1629
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 7: because they, said, look he leads the league in, Scoring

1630
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 7: he's become more efficient as a, shooter better. Playmaker it's

1631
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 7: not just Being hice so heavy all the. Time and

1632
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 7: that has been. True but when he looked at yesterday's,

1633
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 7: game that's exactly what he was. Doing it was just

1634
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 7: one on one, basketball inefficient, shots. Unproductive Jalen williams played really,

1635
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 7: well but no one else really did on the, thunder

1636
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 7: AND i think that was a product of too much

1637
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 7: one on one. Basketball and that starts As shay and

1638
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 7: he's got to be.

1639
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 2: Better all, Right, well it's great stuff as, Always, mark

1640
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 2: thanks so. Much we'll check in with you next. Week all,

1641
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: right there he is the Great Mark. Mendina all, right

1642
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 2: that's going to do it for us right, Now, martin

1643
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: but don't go. Anywhere much more coming. Up this Is

1644
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 2: Fox Sports.

1645
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:53,320
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