WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 26 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:08.760 It is Thursday, May twenty six, Jack Waise Happy Hour, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.640 and now a guy who believes got a stands for 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:23.000 Order ten appetizers. Jay Peace, Yeah, it's not wrong. Welcome man, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.800 it's Jack Horns Happy Hour. Well, I'm j P. Shadrick. Well, 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.360 we've got a busy show ahead. O Taser here, Jeff 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.120 Lockhaman is here. As always, we'll hear from Doug Peterson 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.920 and Trevor Lawrence to get their reaction to the opening 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:42.360 of Order ten appetizers, and we'll go around the National 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.280 Football League as we always do. Plenty of news around 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.440 the league, some rules changes in terms of roster numbers 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.120 for the practice squads and things like that coming up. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.360 Jeff Lockhaman with us. Now, what's up, Jeffrey, it's all good. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:00.480 It's all good. Jp. By the way, what's wrong with appetizers? Nothing? 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.440 Especially ten of him. Yeah. That's the best way to 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.880 go about dinner sometimes is you know, you get a 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.839 sample order about five or six appetizers for a couple 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.800 of people, get a side salad, you go, you call 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.800 it tap us and you can charge two more dollars. Yeah, 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.520 that's the same thing. Yeah, that's a good idea. Gonna do. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:26.479 I'm a big appetizer guy, especially when it comes to seafood. Shrimp, cocktail, shrimp, cocktail, 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.520 fried shrimp, bang bang shrimp. I feel like I'm on 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:40.360 forest from seared tunor. Yeah. Yeah, so we winned to 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.920 get to organized team activities are here, of course. The 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.480 only session this week open to the media was Monday, 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.760 and Doug Peterson Loggs met the media ahead of practice 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.000 and explains what he wants to see as the offseason 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.440 program continues. I think just continuing to grow as a 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.000 football team, coming to other um, you know, as we 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.800 build towards training camp. I think that's probably the number 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.760 the number one thing, you know, really is is just 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.680 building that cohesiveness again. The players and coaches are getting 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.320 getting to know each other still, you know, and and um, 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.080 you know, I think that's a that's a big part 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.680 of these next you know, three and a half, four 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.920 weeks whatever we got left, so they have it, um yeah, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.560 getting to know each other, taking it from the classroom 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.519 onto the field. What do you think of the pace 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.960 of practice and everything the other Well, it was good 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.480 and it's certainly a different pace than the rookie camp 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.600 because the rookie camp is much slower. It's more methodical. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.239 There's more explanation where when the veterans get out there. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.640 And there by the way, there were a few guys 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.959 that were not in attendance. Remember the O t A 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.560 s are voluntary, and most of the guys that weren't 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:53.960 there had good reasons for not being there. Doesn't but 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.560 the tempo is much higher compared to the rookie minicamp 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.840 because that's what you would expect. I mean, there's guys 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.799 that have been around and been playing football for a 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.800 longer period of time than just the rookies, and so 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.560 the veterans kind of established the tempo the rookies have 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.960 to keep up and uh and I really liked the tempo. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.840 I like the way that the coaching happened in practice. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.160 There wasn't screaming and yelling. There wasn't a megaphone telling 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.200 you what period it was and remember to focus when 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.959 you're not in and it's plus two and this and that. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:32.680 It felt serious, relaxed, and a very deep teaching hour 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.040 and a half. And that's the way it should be 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.000 in the National Football League. And it was good to 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.760 watch some of the guys that we haven't seen in 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.280 a long period of time, and it was good to 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.480 see some of the guys that were hurt last year 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.880 either working in practice or working on the side. It 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:54.800 was including Travis E. T N who got hurt. Full 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.880 go and that's a good thing. Cut and moving, running, jumping, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.280 the whole deal. Yeah, and he and he looked good. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.360 I mean he had he had a drop one time, 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:07.040 but look, everybody has that. And uh. I think the 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.000 thing that surprised me the most is typically when you 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.800 have O. T. A. S there's the old saying that 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.960 the offense doesn't run or hit come out of the 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.800 gate as fast as the defense, because the offense is 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:26.000 about timing and continuity and rhythm, whereas the defense it's 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.080 about speed, athleticism, aggressiveness, which it's a lot easier to 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.880 get to that speed as the defense compared to the offense. 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:35.800 But I thought that the offense held its own. I 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.560 thought Trevor looked very sharp. Besides the one pass that 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.440 he ended up throwing right to Divon Hamilton's on a 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:43.480 kind of a he's trying to dump it off to 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.839 Evan Ingram. I think it was underneath and it's not 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.680 a very um well thought out throw by Trevor in 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.719 that case because he has thrown back to the middle 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.760 across the body. Not what you want to do. But 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.000 number fifty two is a large human being. Yes, he 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.760 is between the five and the two. He is, and 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.320 he did a good job. He caught its great, ran 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.560 with it, ran with it, and the defense had a 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.800 great moment in practice. Yes, so, and glad to see 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.640 that Trevor didn't try to make a touchdown saving tackle 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.800 that stay away with the red jersey, don't don't touch 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.800 the quarterback. So yeah, good to see some of those. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:18.680 Good to see some of the new faces that are here. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.560 Obviously the free agent guys, we we got our first 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.640 chance to look at Christian Kirk had a couple of 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.200 catches that, uh seem to have a little something going. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:32.040 Do you buy the the whole building of an unfield 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:36.680 connection now to pay dividends later in training camp in preseason? 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:42.080 Absolutely you do. I think. I think the timing, the relationships, 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:47.160 the communication between quarterback and all of his weapons is 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.680 critical to build at this moment. And there's a lot 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.880 of guys that are getting reps because they're still trying 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.160 to figure out who those guys are gonna be once 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.400 it starts coming down to kick off time for a 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.520 real game. But for the most part, they who those 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.960 guys are gonna be. But it's a it's critically important 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.839 that those guys get the reps now, which is kind 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.680 of surprising. I know we're gonna get to around the 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.839 league later on, but you've got other guys and other 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.960 teams in the league that aren't having everybody in attendance 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.279 like the Jaguars do, which look, the Jaguars had the 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.960 worst record in football two years in a row. They 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.599 need to get the work together like the Ravens. For example, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.640 Lamar Jackson is not in the O Tater at the 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.520 O t a s. Tom Brady is doing some and 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.479 not doing others. But he's the goat. He doesn't need 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.200 to do a lot of that stuff. But Trevor Lawrence 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.000 and and his guys they need to get every rep 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.839 possible for two reasons. One, it's a completely new system 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.840 with the new coaching staff, and they need to not 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.719 only to learn how to understand the new system, but 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.440 also to communicate with their coaches and their teammates. I mean, 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.159 that's the biggest reason why. And if you don't take 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.200 advantage of that when you're ball team that hasn't been 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.600 very good, you've got no chance. And so it's good 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.880 to see everybody out there. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.480 Tinte next selling Jaguars dot Com. J P. Shadrick with 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.400 Jeff Logabun. Let's hear from Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback, on 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.200 the start of the organized team activities. We've got a 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:20.080 couple different phases. Now we're back into competing against the defense, 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.480 and um, that's a little easier to measure because you can, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:23.680 you know, you can put a grade on it, you 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.000 can say it was that successful or not, you know, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.560 complete and complete all those things. It's a little tougher 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.280 on air. I think having those few weeks though to 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.560 prepare and really master the system helps And now like today, 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.520 I feel like we were pretty clean. Obviously, you're gonna 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.480 always have a few a few things here and there 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.680 you want to clean up. But I really like where 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.720 we're at. I feel like we're I don't want to 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.400 say ahead of schedule, but I really feel like we're 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.680 right where we need to be. Um the way that 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.080 you know, Coach Peterson press all those all of our 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:54.120 our whole staff is installed. The offense, you know, really strategically, 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.160 and um, I really like where we're at and the 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.800 guys are picking it up great. The question to Trevor 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:04.040 Lawrence here was how do you measure um success? Building? 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.320 Is it day to day? You know, how do you 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.080 as an offense and as yourself? How do you? And 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.760 that was his answer. Well, and if you pulled thirty 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.760 two teams quarterbacks, they would all have a very similar answer. 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.080 We really like where we are. We're doing really well. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:21.600 Our tempo is great, We're building the camaraderie, we're building 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:27.120 towards the season. I mean, so everybody has a winning may, right, 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.960 everybody has a winning journey. We're undefeated and may and 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.200 absolutely so. I mean you would expect some of the 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.480 answers that he has, but but it's good. It's good 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.680 to see the amount when when you talk about the 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.960 brain power of the offensive side of the ball that 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.960 they have there with Press Taylor and Mike McCoy and 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.720 and of course Duff Peterson as the head coach, Jim 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:54.000 Bob Cooter the passing game coordinator, there's a lot of 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.040 guys on that side of the ball that are gonna 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:01.400 be able to provide some great insight into the offense 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.080 and into the performance of the offense and into the 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.559 design of the offense. And I think that's that's really 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:12.160 a strong, really strong thing about this offense and a 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.599 strong thing about Doug Peterson's staff. The offensive side of 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.319 the ball has a lot of really good minds and 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:23.359 a lot of minds JP that have very good experience, 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:28.040 great experience working with the quarterback in the NFL, in 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:34.480 the NFL, not at some college school. And that's that's 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.480 great what you gotta have. And the defense has some 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.160 great experience too, Okay, not as much as the offense, 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:46.040 and that's okay, part of I think sometimes the one 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.720 thing I think that you've got to be careful of 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.120 is that when you have, when you have that many 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.559 minds and that many people that you know, I'm sitting 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.520 here talking about the great virtues that they bring to 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.280 the offense of the offense to staff, you have to 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.680 make sure and I don't want to say be cautious, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.400 but there needs to be a very specific set of 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:15.959 marching orders and about job description because you can't have 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:21.760 the quarterbacks coach, okay, disagreeing with the offensive coordinator because 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.680 he's been a head coach and he's been an offensive 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.240 coordinator before. I mean, there's there's you've got to make 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.120 sure that you know the old saying, you can't have 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.640 too many chefs in the kitchen. Okay, you need to 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.040 have the one guy that's kind of the head of 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.760 the of the kitchen, and then everybody else has certain 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.320 jobs and responsibilities to do. And of course you have 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.760 the the master chef. I thought there was too many 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.800 cooks in the kitchen, however you want to call it 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:52.480 chef's cooks JP. Okay, the kitchens you go to a 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.880 lot of kits, they're cooks. The kitchens that I go to, 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:03.559 Chef Gordon White, the whole thing. Yeah. Me on the 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:08.800 other hand, Yeah, but I I do. I I like 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.400 the the experience that the offense has. I think it's 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.280 it's gonna be fun to watch. I mean, there's there's 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:16.880 a lot of bright minds on that side of the 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.880 ball now, and if Trevor Lawrence doesn't have the ability 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.240 or cannot find a way to soak in all of that, 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.520 are as much of that knowledge as possible. But I 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.679 believe that Trevor Lawrence is going to be able to 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.360 soak in as much as possible. And the one thing 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.959 I want to see him out of him JP, because 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.000 you know that we only saw the first day and 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.319 there's a long way to go and O T A. S. 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.600 And and also you have the mandatory minicamp coming up 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.360 in the middle of June. But you want to start 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:54.160 to see the leadership of Trevor Lawrence, the ownership of 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.880 Trevor Lawrence in the offense. And and that takes time. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.959 That's not something that just happens automatically the first day 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.640 that he's out there with his with his new teammates 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.800 and his new coaches. That's something that has to be built. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.160 The confidence has to be gained. But at some point 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.600 you want to see that to where you see him 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.679 starting to correct guys, starting to demand more of his teammates. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.240 And when you when you start to see that, I 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.640 think then he starts to say, yeah, Okay, Now now 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.360 you can feel it, you can feel how his ownership 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.240 is making a difference. Hey, imagine this. We're gonna have 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.679 more from Trevor Lawrence coming up. Good Jaguars quarterback and 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.199 Doug Peterson Jaguars head coach. We'll hear from g M. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.240 Trent balky Is as well. A little later, he joined 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.880 John Ozan the Ozone Podcast earlier today, the Jaguars are 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.720 future focused and ready for a new look in two 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.160 join us at the bank this season. Is we get 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.880 ready for a great home schedule here in two Luck 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.079 in your seats. Jaguars dot Com slash tickets were called 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.760 nine O four six three three two thousand. We'll return 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:58.040 in a moment with little defensive talk, get logs thoughts 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.480 on the front seven is actually and all the new 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.800 faces there for the Jaguars defense is Jaguars Happy Hour 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:21.079 on the Jaguars Digital Network right here. I'm really excited 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.280 about the future. Obviously we all learned a lot last year, 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.120 but being able to build on what we have now 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.160 and we really create something here, something special. Um. I 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:30.920 feel like we have a lot of the right people 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:32.800 and that's that's what you need is good people, and 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:38.520 we got that. So I'm looking forward to it. That 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:43.680 was Trevor Lawrence and that is the Hunt tonight, chapter 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:48.040 three on the Jaguars YouTube channel and Jaguars dot Com, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.520 Jaguars Social media. But check it out tonight, and I 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.760 think it's a long one, like twenty minutes or something like, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.200 it's nice behind the scenes acts. You can't minutes that's 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.160 a long one. Yes, that's a lot. I mean they've 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.959 been working on this for a long time. Max Hawkman, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.600 our entire broadcast crew and digital crew, and um, it's 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.600 it's um, it's twenty minutes. I mean, here's a here's 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.719 a reality. Because these videos that they put together have 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.920 been fantastic. When you say twenty minutes, it's a long. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.640 When it doesn't feel long, it'll fly by. But it's 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.040 access you don't get literally anywhere else that cool stuff. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:29.160 But put it this way, I watch it. Wow, they honestly, 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.240 I watch it and I enjoy it. I mean it's uh, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.000 I think it's very entertaining. I think they do a 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.040 great job. Whether the production on, it's awesome. And congratulations 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.600 to all the guys that contributed to do that because 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.600 they do a wonderful job. So check it out tonight 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.960 on the Jaguars YouTube channel about seven o'clock or so. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.880 And let's move along to defense now logs. A lot 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:53.040 of new faces on defense around here. Um, you know, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.160 draft picks, some free agent guys have come in. You know, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.360 it's it's hard to tell on a lot of things 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.240 right now because there's no contact going on. But what 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.680 stood out the most to you on the defensive side 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:11.280 the other day, I think, first and foremost some of 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.440 the free agent guys that you signed, the big guys. 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.480 It's hard to tell on them. I mean, because the 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.120 big guys aren't pounding. You don't really kind of learn 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.480 anything about the big guys other than man, he looks 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.600 really big in clothes. But you'll find out more about 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.240 them when the pads go on. But I really like 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:32.440 the energy of a little con the guy. He practices 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.280 like I watched him on film, which means ton of energy, 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.600 has never ending energy, is always all over the field, 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.440 and that was good to watch. Now. Fotakasi big dude. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.560 You know, big dude, And I think I think the 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.480 one thing that I want to see more of is 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.360 that the guys that were drafted the last couple of 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.440 years that are that are in that position to have 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.880 an opportunity to contribute, for them to step Bob. You 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.360 go back a couple of years ago, Devon Hamilton's was 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.160 a third round pick. We were talking about this before 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.960 we came off. And when you expend a third round 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.040 pick on the defensive tackle. You want to start to 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.320 see some dividends. And last year de Von Hamilton's I 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.400 thought took a step back. Well, this is a third 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.800 round pick defensive tackle. You want to see him take 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.480 a step up. Okay. Last year's fourth round pick J 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.160 two fell A didn't make much of an impact, was 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:32.160 hardly active for any games at all last year. Okay, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.080 these are two guys that play the same position of 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.160 photo Kassi, who you went and signed in free agency 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.080 and gave a bunch of money to in free agency 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.120 because you felt like there maybe those other two guys 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.200 weren't quite where you needed them to be at. If 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.160 those other two guys are playing, well, maybe you don't 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.480 go out and get a photo COSI. So I want 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:58.240 to see some of these younger defensive tackles, some of 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.200 these guys that they've picked of the last couple of years, 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.240 all of them, not just the defensive tackles, even you know, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.000 the young safety they got from Syracuse last Cisco, I 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.000 want to see him take a step up. I mean, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.399 these are the guys that are gonna be the guys 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.280 that either make this team better and help this team 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.159 climb out of the whole that they've been in the 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.119 last two years or they don't. And they've got to 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.800 find a way to get production out of these draft 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.320 picks that they've had in the last couple of years. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.560 And I'm not talking about just Okay, he's got a 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.879 role because he's playned. I'm talking about being a significant 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:40.679 contributor to winning winning. That's there's a big difference between 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:46.000 being a contributor and being a contributor to winning. At 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:47.680 some point, you just gotta you gotta put Cisco on 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.880 the field. That was part of the thing last year, right, Well, 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.960 I just didn't put him out there, you know. And look, look, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.960 I don't really quite understand. I mean, he was coming 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.480 back from an injury at Syracuse, and so you understand 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.440 some of the Okay, we're gonna make sure that he 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.920 comes back and he's healthy and he's good, and we 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.960 don't want to put too much on his table. And 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:12.040 there's always a little bit of a an adjustment period 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.399 for every rookie that comes in, and it's different for 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:19.240 every rookie. And I think Cisco has tremendous ball skills 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:20.919 and you've got to find a way to get him 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.639 on the field. No offense to Andrew Winger okay, but 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.800 Andrew Winger can't make plays on the ball like like 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.960 a Cisco. He can. Just look at the numbers, look 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:33.800 at the numbers of the opportunities that both of these 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.320 guys had in college, and I think those numbers speak 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.920 very very loudly that Cisco makes plays on the ball 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.960 and that wingered. I think the best role for him 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.480 is as a sub safety, which means that he's a 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.280 backup and that he is one of your core for 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.159 special teams players, and and there's nothing wrong with that. 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.119 He can have a very long career and be a 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.160 very very valuable piece to this football team in that role. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.320 Everybody's got to have a role, and I think that's 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:05.360 the best role for him. Devin Lloyd, what stands out 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.040 when you first see him running around with the veterans. 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.560 We saw a rookie mini camp, of course, but then 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.480 all of a sudden, here he is on the field 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.119 with all the old guys. I thought he blending in 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.400 a little bit. When I say blended in, which means 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.760 that he didn't stand out as much with the veterans, 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.680 just because there's a little bit of an adjustment period. 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.639 You're trying to keep the pace in the tempo the 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.679 veterans who have been doing it for a little bit, 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.640 and also you're trying to understand the tempo the way 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.600 that you're supposed to practice and that the way that 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:39.080 the veterans and the coaches established that. So his athleticism 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.879 definitely still stands out. But when you go from the 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.960 rookie camp to where you just go, wow, that guy 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.680 is really athletic and he really stands out, and you 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.520 put him around a lot more talented athletes and other 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.320 talented linebackers, you're like, Okay, he definitely fits in, but 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.520 he's not standing out yet. That will come with confidence 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.640 and and when he understands his sister him a lot more. 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.800 But he's still in that learning phase. Remember JP, the practice, 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.440 the only practice that we all have seen is the 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.080 very first one, and so that's just such a small 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:14.480 sample size. And it's also the first sample size, which 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.639 typically is something that is a little bit slower for 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.240 the younger players that they're they're still in the mode 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:24.800 of taking things in and digesting them. Trayvon Walker was 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.560 not in attendance on Monday in the open practice. Reports 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.280 today that he was attending a funeral and is back 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:33.480 with the team now, So we didn't get a chance 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.040 to see him out there with the veterans on Monday, 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.280 but hopefully next week we will. Um. You know, then 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.359 there's guys who've been around here for a minute, right, 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.280 Um you mentioned some of the middle round draft picks 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.840 on the d line, like Calebon chaise On, he's a 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.800 first round pick, logs like, at some point you gotta 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.680 get something more production out of him at that position. 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.520 And now there's there's all these new faces coming in 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.040 at outside linebacker with Walker and John Chalons still there, 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.159 and uh, a guy like cheeses On is one of 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.959 those guys get something out of caleban Is is going 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.600 to be fighting for a roster spot. I mean that's 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.239 I mean, that's plain and simple. I mean that's you're 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.720 You're you're fighting for a job. I'm not. I don't 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.600 think he's in the situation of, Okay, he's fighting for 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.440 for playing time. Okay, because if he's fighting for that, 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:27.840 who is he gonna take time away from? Is he 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:33.879 gonna take time away from Josh Allen, No, Trayvon Walker, no, 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:38.920 Um Smoot No. Now, last year he's he kind of 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:43.040 split time with Smoot Smoot clearly showed last year that 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:47.879 Smoot deserves to be definitely ahead of Calebn chays On. 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.760 And I'm not trying to the down Calebancha and he 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.920 just he has to take significant steps up in his 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.480 game for him to earn a role as a regular 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.320 contributor on defense. So act, I mean, that's just the 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:05.480 way it is, and right now he is. I don't 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.200 want to say he's a low man on the totem pole, 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.280 but he's lower in the pecking order than being a 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:14.879 regular rotation guy because you've added to that position in 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.640 the draft with a first overall draft pick who has 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.280 a ton of talent. And so I think that that's 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.120 something to what what what he says to be determined, 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.800