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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us A bar Garcia, and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wens the April fifth, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: season eighteen, episode number one two three. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break, live from the s WBC

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Speaker 1: Morgan Studios at the Star. We're presented by Miller of Light,

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Speaker 1: the only Beard of the Dallas Cowboys, and I'm back

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Speaker 1: in studio. I've gotten back loud Amber now to kind

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Speaker 1: not have to worry about in this thing. So thank

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Speaker 1: you for hosting while I've been out over I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is one twenty three. Um, oh my gosh, you're

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Speaker 1: right it actually we would have flipped over today. This

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Speaker 1: is actually episode number one of season nineteen. Nick, Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Thanks. That looks so scripted, but it really

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Speaker 1: in April, so yes, that would be okay. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: season nineteen, episode number one, do the whole intro against nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I wore a sweatshirt from the first show that we've

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Speaker 1: ever done. This is a Bill Parcel special. It is

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Speaker 1: actually two thousand and three. You need us some ice?

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Speaker 1: This is this is the one that This is the

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Speaker 1: Captain Morgan Captain Morgan style, Yeah, that was. This was

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Speaker 1: a sweatshirt that they yeah, on that day. Well, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the nineteen season over there. Oh no, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that abort. All right, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seasons of The Break. Nineteen seasons. Nick, It's been

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Speaker 1: nineteen seasons of doing this show, and uh so let's

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Speaker 1: let's have some fun today. I know I was out

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Speaker 1: would be on vacation, right, Yeah, it happens usually the

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Speaker 1: front office. No, it happens. It happens every year for

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Speaker 1: me because that's huge. Two Bryan brought us last season

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Speaker 1: All about what happens in the draft. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I think they're using this tag to say, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: a lot of unknown about Pollard coming back from this injury.

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Speaker 1: years around here. Well, Dak coming back he should be,

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Speaker 1: you know, Gallup coming back, he should be. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'd always talk about these these guys and you don't

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Speaker 1: just saying the unknown, it's not the work ethic can

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Speaker 1: it was like it seemed like it was ten weeks before.

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Speaker 1: gonna bet this is start talking about long term deal.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to bet that he defies the odds

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think the Cowboys want to

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Speaker 1: get in that business. This is a very rare year

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Speaker 1: This thing is going to go from the first round

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, guys, which addition to this team

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Speaker 1: is which player that was added will have the greater

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Speaker 1: impact this season. Stefan Gilmore, Brandon Cooks, Chuma Edoga, Ronald Jones,

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Speaker 1: Trent Sieg Gotta have a good snap starts with the operation.

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Speaker 1: I would say that other can can't start to can't

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Speaker 1: have a field goal without that guy. Uh Now, I

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Speaker 1: like that the corner is going to have the bigger

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Speaker 1: impact here Gilmore. I really do, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: he's going to be very steady with the way that

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Speaker 1: he plays, and there's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions that Diggs is going to have to answer. I

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Speaker 1: hope he handles this contract extension thing well. I don't

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Speaker 1: want him to get distracted and all that, you know,

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Speaker 1: with what's ahead for him and having to play. And

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Speaker 1: I say that in a way that I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna need some really really steady guys. Bland Gilmore, We'll

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Speaker 1: see you with Lewis coming back. We'll see how that.

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Speaker 1: But I worry a little bit about that with the

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Speaker 1: secondary and stuff with Diggs. I hope he just doesn't

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Speaker 1: get too emotional about what's ahead for him and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden they keep asking him questions about it

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Speaker 1: and it affects the way he plays. So you'd better

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Speaker 1: have some guys that could kind of pick up the

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Speaker 1: slack if there's some rough stuff going on in that secondary.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't disagree. I think this is as

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Speaker 1: to play the other side of it. I'll say Cooks

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Speaker 1: because what I love about what he's done is that

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Speaker 1: he has been very quarterback friendly, and we we've said

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Speaker 1: the term Dack friendly, Romo friendly and all that. Here's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's come in and he's had a thousand

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Speaker 1: year our seasons with the best or the best. He's

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Speaker 1: at thousand yard seasons with Deshaun Watson and Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: and you know, along with the Breeze and Brady and

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Speaker 1: so Dak fits right in between them somewhere, and I

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Speaker 1: think that he'll come in and he'll be really good

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Speaker 1: for this offense. So which is what they need. They

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Speaker 1: need more playmakers. We saw it in San Francisco, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have playmakers. I think Cooks has shown he's a playmaker,

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Speaker 1: so I think he helps too. But I mean Gilmore

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Speaker 1: Yeah to me would be I mean, either are good,

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Speaker 1: but to me, definitely Gilmore. He's a guy that seems

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Speaker 1: you're lacking no no, no, okay, yes, absolutely, but I'm

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Speaker 1: talking on that other side. Yeah, I know what You're

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Speaker 1: So where I'm getting at, I think there's a thing

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Speaker 1: have somebody else creating some type of competition and like level,

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Speaker 1: it can't lead to you kind of lowering the way

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Speaker 1: definitely an area that we all know the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: lacking last year. Let me ask you guys this question

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Speaker 1: around so many places? Why has he been at so

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Speaker 1: many teams? Because you look at his numbers. I mean

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Speaker 1: typically let guys like that go, And to now be

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Speaker 1: even as you said, Nick, when it's been with quarterbacks

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638
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Speaker 1: is that you you make those you have those those seasons,

639
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: and then you're like, okay, what usually comes next when

640
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: a guy balls out what happens? He wants money? You're like, okay,

641
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: well it was good for this number, but now that

642
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: you want this, I don't know about that. And so

643
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of just a unique, unique thing. I mean,

644
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: there's only two guys in the history of the NFL

645
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: that have had four one thousand yard seasons with four

646
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: different teams, you know, and Brandon Marshall and him. And

647
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: you can say the same thing about Brandon Marshall. Why

648
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: why did he never stick to and you don't really know.

649
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: He was a good player, good player on a lot

650
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: of teams. So but I don't think it's attitude. I

651
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: really don't. I don't. I don't think. I just think

652
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of more circumstantial. Well, my computer got locked up?

653
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Is that you I guess? Oh, I don't know what

654
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: happened just here? Okay, Okay, I had the microphone, I

655
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: had had it turned off. I guess he just got

656
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: locked up. Sorry about that. Um, yeah, because And honestly,

657
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: the one that really sticks out to me looking at

658
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Brandon sites, it's two thousand and seventeen with the Patriots,

659
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: where he had one hundred, he had one thousand and

660
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: eighty two yards, he had seven touchdowns, he evered sixteen

661
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: point six yards per catch, and he was a one

662
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: and done season. Like after that, Denis off to the Rams,

663
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: and that just that one really just seems weird to

664
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: me that after one year he was traded. He was traded, Yeah,

665
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: after one year of really good production, like that's good

666
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: production to just be like, yeah, we're good. And again,

667
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: it could have been a contract I don't know the

668
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: history there. It could have been a contract situation where

669
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: they were like, we know he's gonna be asking for

670
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: this amount of money, We're not willing to pay him that.

671
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: And so you know, well, when the Cowboys trained him

672
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: next year, well we'll ask you know that that question.

673
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: I guess after the season he gives you a thousand yards. Yeah, yeah,

674
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: that'd be great. And by the way, this is a

675
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: good problem to have because he's product produced everywhere, so hey,

676
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the production. I'm just interested to know

677
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: more about why. I wish I could talk to some

678
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: of the teams that made these deals and why they

679
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: thought it was okay to get rid of a guy

680
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: who was disproductive. Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting thing to wonder.

681
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: But as of right now today, I'm just like, I

682
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't care either bring him here. It

683
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: just feels like, at least for this year, it just

684
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: feels to me that the Cowboys finally are on the

685
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: better side of the deal. Sometimes you talk about free agency,

686
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: and you know, it's been known in the Cowboys history

687
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: of free agency that they tend to go for bargains

688
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: and you don't know how it's gonna pan out, and

689
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: they always get them. Oh my god, what's the word

690
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: in English? I'm thinking in Spanish. My brain switched to Spanish.

691
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: The crumbles that are left on the plate, you know,

692
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: the crumble left of free agency. And for some reason,

693
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: this year, everything that they've done in this free agency,

694
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: even though nothing feels like a huge splash, it still

695
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: feels that you've got a really, really good free agency,

696
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: and every single guy that they've brought in from outside

697
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: and the guys that they've signed in house, you just

698
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: feel like they're all going to contribute this year. Can

699
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: I ask a question about to the panel here, of

700
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: which which are you more surprised of the way this

701
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: result happened. That they traded for two quality pieces or

702
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: they resigned Donovan Wilson. I would say, well, that's a

703
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: good question, because I would say the trade because we

704
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: don't usually see it often. But resigning the safety to

705
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: a good to you know, resigning the safety to a

706
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: big deal we haven't really seen since Roy Williams, and

707
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: you could make that argument that maybe that wasn't even

708
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: a great idea. Um, But yeah, I mean I think,

709
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: I think, um, I'm probably I'm more surprised about the trades. Yeah,

710
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: because they love draft picks. Yeah, even though fifth and

711
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: six runners that they love drafts, those compensatory picks, and

712
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: they did a good job in moving those along. Now

713
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: that you get traders, I'm more surprised that they got

714
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: Wilson done because coming out of the combine talking to people,

715
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, it seemed like it was miles apart, I

716
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: mean miles apart that that you know this, Yeah, but

717
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: but here's The thing though, Brian, and you can go back.

718
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Let's look at the history of the Jones family when

719
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: they've had free agencies, free agents, it's not often that

720
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: they really want a guy they lose, they don't get him, no, right,

721
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: And so for me, the question I kept asking the

722
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: people I was talking to around the building was how

723
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: much do they want Donovan Wilson? And oh no, no.

724
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: All I heard was they really want no no, Yeah

725
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: that you got. It's funny because the coaching staff was adamant. Yeah.

726
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you know people that know

727
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, if you know people that know Mike McCarthy.

728
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy I think was hinting to the media that hey, no,

729
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson is important to what we're trying to do here,

730
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, and Dan Quinn and people I know were like, no, Dan,

731
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: Dan loves Wilson, you know, I mean like that, like, really,

732
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: oh no, Dan loves Wilson, so to me. But then

733
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: like there were people like Bobby Belts the world stuff

734
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: that we're dealing with, you know, agents or whoever, and

735
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: they're like, man, this is no, one's not going to

736
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: be easy. But negotiation. Buton's family negotiates. They negotiate hard. Yeah,

737
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: for players they love and they want to have here,

738
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: they're going to negotiate it hard. And Jesse Bates I

739
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: think got fourteen a year from the former Bengal guy, right,

740
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's where his agent thought he was

741
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: the range he was going to be in. And that's

742
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: why it was miles apart because the Cowboys kind of

743
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: stuck to their guns here and so they just said,

744
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, I always go back to the DeMarco Murray deal.

745
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: You know, they wanted to Marco Murray rush for eighteen

746
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: hundred yards an NFL rushing champ that year, and they said,

747
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: this is the number we're gonna pay you. If you

748
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: find it over it, go for it, and he did. So.

749
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: I think they were gonna do that with Donovan Wilson.

750
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: I do. I think if it was got if it

751
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: would have getten forgot over ten million. They were said nah,

752
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: but it didn't. It didn't get that far. The amazing

753
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: thing is, and you know Adam Pacific and those guys upstairs,

754
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: and what they do is you got a couple of

755
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: players that never did you got money back from the Texans,

756
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: you know, and got better deals and then you got

757
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: a corner who said, no, I'm happy about being here.

758
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: I don't need any new money. You know, you got

759
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: two players, You got the Texans to pay the freight

760
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: on one of the guys, and the other guy says, no, no,

761
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't need new money. I mean usually it's like

762
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: you make a trade, it's like, oh, we have to renegotiate,

763
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: we have to put new money into this deal and

764
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: all that. None of that, so good for them. Forget

765
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: it done that way. Let's talk about another player that

766
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys actually released this offseason, Zeke Elliott. He's still

767
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: out there as a free agent. My personal belief is

768
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: that it's more situation, where as is the case a

769
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: lot of times with veterans. I think it's gonna be

770
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: one of those things where you get to training camp,

771
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: a couple of teams looser, they're running back and they're like, man,

772
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: who's available, and oh, wow, Zeke Eli is available. I mean,

773
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: we should bring him in. Maybe that's when it happens.

774
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: But we have still heard things around the Cowboys organization.

775
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: What they said, yeah, never never close the door on anything. Sure,

776
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: how realistic do you think it is that that Zeke

777
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: Elliott is back with this team by the beginning of

778
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: the season. This seems I'm not realistic at all. I

779
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: just don't see it happening. I don't. I don't want

780
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: to close the door because they don't. Um, they don't

781
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: want to say that doors close out of just out

782
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: of respect. But I think it's a you know, put

783
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: the toothpaste back in the tube there. It's just not

784
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: this is not going to happen. I really don't believe

785
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: it's going to happen at all here. Um, unless, like

786
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: you said, there's an injury and then now you're looking

787
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 1: for something you know, Um, yeah, if if you're needed

788
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: guys on the street, you know, something would happen to

789
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: your running backs. Yeah. Well, here's a guy that knows

790
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, knows the environment, kind of knows

791
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: the system. I means changing a little bit, but but

792
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, knows it enough. Yeah. But I just don't

793
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: see it happen. It's unfortunate that Zeke needed to jump

794
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: in early with these teams. We saw like a week

795
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: where running backs, the free agent running backs were getting

796
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: signed up, and I felt like that Zeke needed to

797
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: be part of that group. He needed to jump in

798
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 1: with a team, because what's happened now is pro days

799
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: are over. They're upstairs working on the draft, and nobody's

800
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: thinking about free agency anymore. Nobody's thinking about They're looking

801
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: at They're looking at eighteen running backs and going, huh,

802
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: these eighteen running backs for this or we have to

803
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: pay a guy two and a half million dollars. You

804
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: know that that that's not that's signed in May. I believe,

805
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: like I say, but like I was hopeful that he

806
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: would jump in with somebody and be with a team

807
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: before the draft, before people started putting their boards together.

808
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: It's Fournet still out there. I don't know Leonard Fournette,

809
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: Yes he is, I believe. I believe. I've seen him

810
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: as similar tight guys on the free agent market, and

811
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: that's where again, those will be the guy I think

812
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: that teams will fill in if they get into a situation.

813
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: Ran knows how this goes. I mean, it's almost like

814
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: a pause. You know, we're like, all right now, we're

815
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: going to shift gears and we're focused on you know,

816
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: you're getting close enough to create to the draft, like

817
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: why would we sign this guy? And then somebody falls

818
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: in our lap. And now we want to have to

819
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: So let's just wait and see and we'll pause and

820
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: then we'll revisit. And by the way, he'll be out there.

821
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: That's the expectation. All these guys are out there now.

822
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna still be out there from now. So

823
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: just see what happens to the draft. What do you

824
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: think has been the difference as to why they're changing

825
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: strategy or changing the way that they usually do things.

826
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: And when you summarize, you know, we talked about Zeke.

827
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: We know sometimes they they kind of hold on to

828
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: certain players that they really really like, even outside of

829
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: what they're bringing on the field, just because of the

830
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: relationship there. We we talked about the two trades, We

831
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: talk about a contract with a safety. So little things

832
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: like that that you're not used to seeing the Cowboys do.

833
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: What would you say gives into the change in free

834
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: agency as a whole? I think I think that first

835
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: of all, you're gonna you have to have a good

836
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: football team, and I think that they believe that they do,

837
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: just like they did last year. You know, they had

838
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: a good team last year they lost in the playoffs

839
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers. Talking about two years ago,

840
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: and then you go into the offseason, and they waited

841
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: until they kind of made splash moves like you know,

842
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: we need we're gonna get Anthony bar We're gonna get

843
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: Jason Peters, We're gonna get They still got big name guys,

844
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: but they waited a little bit. But I think it

845
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: was it was an all in approach, like this is

846
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: a good team. We're not gonna we're not gonna let

847
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: one or two injuries derail this team. And now that

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Speaker 1: I think they just went a little bit more aggressive

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Speaker 1: with it. And I will say the quality of the

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Speaker 1: is different. Like these guys I think are still I

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Speaker 1: think they are still closer to their prime trade for Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, they say they kind of, you know, ramped

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Speaker 1: it up a little bit. And and why not. Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy knows if if he didn't go to the NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game, we're gonna be talking about his job. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he knows that, so he's gotta he's gotta go all

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Speaker 1: in on this. Zeke Elliott, Kareem Hunt, Leonard Fournette still

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Speaker 1: teams will be able to fill in their rosters after

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Speaker 1: they get past draft and look at those guys, and

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Speaker 1: I would be interested to see where Zeke falls in

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Speaker 1: that category among those backs, like is he the priority guy,

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Speaker 1: is he the top of that list, or is he

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Speaker 1: kind of equal with him? And it's all about how

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Speaker 1: much money you have to pay for him. I'd be

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Speaker 1: interested to see with the market thinks of Zeke relatives

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Speaker 1: some of those guys. Here's what I wonder about Zeke.

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Speaker 1: In really, all backs when you get to this point,

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Speaker 1: you know all players. But with Zeke, he's gotta he's

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Speaker 1: gotta stay in shape. He's got he can't he can't

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Speaker 1: see social, but he's out there working and he's gotta

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Speaker 1: be well. He needs to go to place two where

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Speaker 1: he can split carries. Yeah, he learned that splitting carries

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Speaker 1: is good for his health. Long term, he'll be good.

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Speaker 1: I mean he had a lot of carries here. I mean, yeah, carries.

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Speaker 1: He'll be. He'll be good for a team. I mean

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Speaker 1: he really will. I think I don't know when or

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Speaker 1: where it'll it'll be, but you know he'll be good.

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Speaker 1: It's just sometimes it just it doesn't. It's not the one.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not this team. You know it won't

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Speaker 1: be this team. I don't believe. All Right, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys, you want us. We'll be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get some question next week. I want to

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Speaker 1: get some fan questions. We haven't done that in a

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Speaker 1: while until then. For Nick Eatman, Brian brought us Amber Garcia.

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Speaker 1: I'm Derek Kielton. This has been The Break live on

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