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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we trust anyone in this

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Speaker 1: studio to drive our sleigh.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Go off, Chris Wesseling podcast studio. Sometimes you don't have

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Speaker 1: anything to say at the top and you look down.

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Speaker 1: We're doing a mail bag today and that's the topic

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Speaker 1: of our very first question of the NFL Daily mail Bag.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal, That's Jordan Rodrieg, that's Colleen Wolfo.

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Speaker 2: We're here.

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Speaker 3: We did it, done it.

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Speaker 1: We haven't made it because a week from now that'll

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Speaker 1: actually be the last show before Christmas, but you'll be gone,

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Speaker 1: so it's our last one together, Colleen, and so we

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Speaker 1: have a holiday themed mail bag today in addition to

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Speaker 1: some news and a big TNF preview, biggest game of

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Speaker 1: the year.

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Speaker 2: Have you done any shopping? I don't. I don't believe

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Speaker 2: it you would have.

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Speaker 4: No. I still have to do a lot of shopping.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a Christmas tree yet, I haven't put

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Speaker 5: any I bought a wreath, but I didn't hang it yet,

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Speaker 5: so it's just sitting on a table.

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Speaker 4: That's where I am in the stadum.

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Speaker 1: You're exceedingly proud that you showed up on time, but

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Speaker 1: it was like literally the minute that the show is

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Speaker 5: It just so just in time is my nickname. I

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Speaker 5: will always be here just in time.

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Speaker 3: But what I love is that when Colleen came in,

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Speaker 3: you know, Sunshine and butterflies also flew into the room

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Speaker 3: with her. But she immediately sees me and Greg sitting here.

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Speaker 3: We were just like chilling, and Colleen immediately panics and

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Speaker 3: looks at the clock goes it's one minute. You get credit, Colleen,

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Speaker 3: as you would say to me, you get credit.

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Speaker 4: I was like flying up the stairs. Why do I

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Speaker 4: do this to myself every time?

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Speaker 1: There's always one Although I'm kind of one like that too.

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Speaker 1: Until I became, you know, a parent of two and

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Speaker 1: more respect you.

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Speaker 3: Look like a parent.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I need to feel.

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Speaker 1: In aporter Zip, I'm just saying where I had responsibilities

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Speaker 1: unlike you, colleague. Let's do some news. It is time

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Speaker 1: for the news of the day. Let's start with Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: If you listen to our Monday night show, we forecasted

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Speaker 1: this a little bit. We guessed that Monday Night might

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Speaker 1: be the last time to a tongue of Ailoa ever

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Speaker 1: plays for the Miami Dolphins. Mike McDaniel was asked about

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Speaker 1: his quarterback on Tuesday and whether they are thinking about

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Speaker 1: making a change.

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Speaker 2: This is what he said, Well, I think the quarterback

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Speaker 2: play last night was not good enough, and so for me,

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Speaker 2: everything's on the table.

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Speaker 1: Wow, little harsher than the coaches usually are on the podium.

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Speaker 1: But he's an honest man, Mike McDaniel, I would expect

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Speaker 1: Quinn Ewers or Zach Wilson to start this week the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins officially eliminated.

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Speaker 2: Don't need to go over all of that again.

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Speaker 1: You you had an interested comment in the makeup room

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Speaker 2: We're like stars.

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Speaker 4: What happened in the makeup room?

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Speaker 2: Guys had makeup?

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Speaker 3: Uh had a interesting They fixed my effing face.

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Speaker 2: But same here.

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Speaker 1: You you had a good theory about how this Monday

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Speaker 1: night game played out.

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Speaker 2: And McDaniel and Tua and all that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Mike McDaniel's been trying to separate himself from

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Speaker 3: from Tua for a while. You've heard the comments kind

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Speaker 3: honest at times a little too open about what's going

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Speaker 3: on behind closed doors. But Mike McDaniel has been more

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Speaker 3: critical of Tua than he ever had before. Remember he

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Speaker 3: came in as somebody who really stood in front of

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Speaker 3: talked with both of them about that and how the

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Speaker 3: after that. But it has not been good enough this year,

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Speaker 3: also now is very open about the quarterback being one

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Speaker 3: the way Monday Night played out was, if you're Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 3: kind of a perfect scenario, specifically for Mike McDaniel, because

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Speaker 3: you need to separate yourself from the quarterback. He's trying

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Speaker 3: if you're Mike McDaniel, that you are not a packaged deal.

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Speaker 3: And so having it be on an island game with

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Speaker 3: as poorly as he did, that probably was ultimately a

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Speaker 3: good thing. I don't good is the wrong word, but

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Speaker 3: good thing for Mike McDaniel who's trying to keep that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think too that when people see that and

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Speaker 5: see Mike McDaniel distancing himself from Tua, I think the

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Speaker 5: natural reaction is to then start to imagine what would

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Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel and this team look like with a different quarterback,

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Speaker 5: What could he do with someone else that they brought in?

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Speaker 5: Because that fourth quarter alone was so the whole game.

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Speaker 5: They were very disinterested and they couldn't get anything going.

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Speaker 5: I think Tua had only sixty five passing yards through

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Speaker 5: were just like in trash time. It was so much

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Speaker 5: worse actually watching the game. But I think that when

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Speaker 3: He was done with the quarterback at that point when

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Speaker 3: you saw that, to your point, Colleen, yeah, you could

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Speaker 1: I'm over it, right, Which is why there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of confidence among the media that McDaniel has a real

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Speaker 2: So I have no reason to, you know, not believe

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's coming from ownership, maybe that's coming from McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: that decision either is the GM who's not there yet,

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Speaker 1: and require them to keep Mike McDaniel. So I still

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Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that he'll be there this

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Speaker 1: next year. But then again, you look at the open market,

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Speaker 2: A job elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just wondering the fact that the yes, I

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter. Wouldn't you be able to even if Mike

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Speaker 5: McDaniel wasn't calling anything that was like of urgent matters,

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Speaker 5: couldn't tua like audible and get everyone going like that's

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Speaker 5: not even happening. It just feels like everyone is quit

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Speaker 1: There, right, which is I think that does not make

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Speaker 1: McDaniel look good. I think the fact that he's trying

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Speaker 1: make him look good. It makes him look emotionally immature,

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Speaker 1: and is that the type of person you want leading?

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Speaker 1: Then again, if he was open, like I'd love to

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Speaker 1: see him coach the Ravens. All right, let's move on

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Speaker 1: to Jade Daniels getting shut down for the remainder of

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Speaker 1: the season. He reinjured that elbow. I watched him a

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Speaker 1: little bit on Tuesday, and not shocking news. He had

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Speaker 1: a good attitude about it, you know, just saying how

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Speaker 1: disappointing this season has been. He thought they were kind

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Speaker 1: of flukey injuries and they were maybe pushing back a

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Speaker 1: bad luck there, But I do think Colleen like they're

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Speaker 1: because the biggest concern for me for him was they

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Speaker 1: and when he was healthy early in the year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was a whole that was everyone's kind

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Speaker 5: of concern going into the season with Terry mclaurin's deal

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Speaker 5: and the holdouts in camp. But you can't you can't

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Speaker 5: well they played as a cohesive unit and the things

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Speaker 5: happen out of luck. And I think that the injuries

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Speaker 5: that is kind of more of a bad luck thing.

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Speaker 5: But I just think that he's a really talented quarterback

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Speaker 5: and if they can get themselves together, like this maybe

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Speaker 5: was just like a Mulligan year. You look at the

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Speaker 5: and yeah, the Commanders have had really terrible success these

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Speaker 5: past few years, and last year was just the one

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Speaker 5: I think that they are trending in that direction still.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they are going to regress. I think

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Speaker 5: of Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw the potential. I think that's the best

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Speaker 3: thing about the situation they're in now is you know

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Speaker 3: exactly what you can get out of this young player,

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Speaker 3: and now it's about understanding where the rest of your

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Speaker 3: especially this defense, and especially getting younger at a couple

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Speaker 3: really bad luck for Jayden, and yes, some regression as well,

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Speaker 3: but bad luck. You know you're not going to necessarily

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Speaker 3: have that next season too, so you need to understand

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Speaker 3: how to get back to at least where you can

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to wonder if Cliff will be there next year.

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, who did such a good job with him

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Speaker 1: offense hasn't been the issue. He's going to get looks

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Speaker 1: I think for head coaching jobs, like there aren't obvious

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Speaker 1: guys that are gonna get I mean, all the coaching

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Speaker 1: spots will be filled, but it's very uncertain who's gonna

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Speaker 2: It's a little early to think about it.

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Speaker 1: Like Mike McDaniel would be a great coordinator, he's got

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Speaker 1: the relationship with Dan quinn. But it's like I think

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel would get another head coaching job in this

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Speaker 1: cycle if he was available. So we'll have to find

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Speaker 1: out who is the coach of Jane Daniels. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: big step back in your two Let's get to the mailbag.

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Speaker 1: So we asked our listeners give us some questions. They

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Speaker 1: could be holiday themed or not. And we got him

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Speaker 1: on Blue Sky, we got him on Twitter. Whatever the

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Speaker 4: And uh yeah, put them in order, did you?

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Speaker 1: I did put them in some sort of order, but

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Speaker 4: I love the people.

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Speaker 3: I'm working because I have two features coming out those

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Speaker 2: That great movement ability.

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Speaker 5: I think the shuck I mean what, he probably has

444
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Speaker 5: more passing yards than either of camp I thought.

445
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Speaker 2: Wow, in terms of per game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he he definitely has that, and I like

447
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Speaker 5: that he has good decision making and he looks good

448
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Speaker 5: in the pocket. It's just tough because the teams surrounding

449
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Speaker 5: both quarterbacks are so different and they're not that great,

450
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Speaker 5: so it is hard to evaluate them under these circumstances.

451
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Speaker 5: But I guess Shuck would be above I put him.

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Speaker 3: I put him at two. I put cam Ward still

453
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Speaker 3: at one, but ill Shuck at two over Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think they're all closer than Titans fans

455
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Speaker 1: would want to feel. But I say that, and I

456
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Speaker 1: would strongly still go with Ward long term. He's a

457
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Speaker 1: lot younger, he's a lot more talented. I think if

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Speaker 1: you put cam Ward in the same situation, he would

459
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Speaker 1: look a lot better.

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Speaker 3: What the tyler, I just do you age shame him

461
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Speaker 3: every changing?

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Speaker 2: Well?

463
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Speaker 3: No, I just usually say is, and we know he's

464
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Speaker 3: seen a lot of football.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're betting on someone that's twenty

466
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Speaker 1: three or twenty six, Ward situation is so bad.

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Speaker 2: The problem is, I don't know when that's gonna change.

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Speaker 1: I do think you gotta give Kellen Moore some credit,

469
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Speaker 1: which I haven't done much on this show, that he's

470
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Speaker 1: made both these young quarterbacks I think play pretty close

471
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Speaker 1: to like their ceiling. I think if you hired him

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Speaker 1: to be kind of a quarterbacks tutor whisper, I think

473
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Speaker 1: their results are pretty good. Maybe that's his ceiling Kellen Moore,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but even that would feel like a win

475
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Speaker 1: for them, even if he only lasts there two or

476
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Speaker 1: three years, and he helps Tyler Shuck become like a

477
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Speaker 1: real deal franchise quarterback. I think he has a chance. Man,

478
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Speaker 1: that's tough. Should her eraser here, but I don't think

479
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Speaker 1: should He is quite there with those three.

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Speaker 3: But I think in a year or two, this is

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Speaker 3: when we see Shor really ascend into his Well.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what it's asking though, if you're taking

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Speaker 1: it long, long term, and that's why I feel like

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Speaker 1: Ward's career I'm taking. But I gotta say, Shuck might

485
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Speaker 1: be a safer pick than Jackson Dart, which seems crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's two different answers if you're

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Speaker 5: going short term versus long term dart.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, I can hear the Giants fan saying,

489
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Speaker 1: for like another, he's even a year younger than Wards,

490
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Speaker 1: so he has a young quarterback. Let's go to our

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Speaker 1: next one. Gift bags or boxes? What is your rap game?

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Speaker 1: Like this is from Chrisman uh Gilchrist.

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Speaker 3: Gift bags because all you have to do is throw

494
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Speaker 3: some tissue paper in there, throw a card in there.

495
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Speaker 3: You know when I used to reuse them, less waste.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. I do love that. Like the recycling

497
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Speaker 5: situation is great. But before I worked at the NFL,

498
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Speaker 5: when I had extra time to do things, I used

499
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Speaker 5: to really go crazy with rap and I would like

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Speaker 5: I would get collect pine cones form.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that would pain my mom.

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Speaker 3: I love it so much. And then and then we

503
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Speaker 3: when we try to open things, and then she's like,

504
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Speaker 3: don't mess up the wrapping, and it's.

505
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Speaker 4: Like away in a second, like what now you're lucky.

506
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Speaker 3: But then she saves it all the like trappings and fixing.

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Speaker 3: She saves them to use again, so it is the

508
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Speaker 3: same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my wrapping is horrific and I get mocked for it,

510
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Speaker 1: But I think that adds some like real like why

511
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Speaker 1: does it have to look all pretty?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Sure, it adds some real

513
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Speaker 2: humanity way to it. This Okay, this next.

514
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Speaker 1: Question was so offensive, I just thought I would throw

515
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Speaker 1: it out as some red meat to you guys from

516
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Speaker 1: Blue Sky. Uh Am, I wrong? Is Troy Aikman the

517
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Speaker 1: worst color guy alive?

518
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Speaker 3: You are wrong?

519
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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 5: I literally talked about him for like a half hour

521
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Speaker 5: straight last night raising him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a crazy take. I'm surprised because, like,

523
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Speaker 1: what is it about Troyman? I think that would bother

524
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Speaker 1: someone right now? Unless you just like love NFL officials

525
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Speaker 1: like I do, I can't.

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Speaker 2: Then you would hate Troy Aikman. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought that was one of I mean, that

528
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Speaker 3: was one of their best games. Ye see, they were

529
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Speaker 3: being so cute to each other, and then Troy was

530
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Speaker 3: just like letting the officiating have it, and then he

531
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Speaker 3: was singing at one point.

532
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Speaker 2: He was really letting the Dolphins have it.

533
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Speaker 1: Like one of the reasons why I think, Oh, they

534
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Speaker 1: got a lot of grief.

535
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Speaker 3: Is In's that Dawyer among my favorite probably one of

536
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Speaker 3: I think my favorite are icons.

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Speaker 1: And he's at the point he always wasn't this good

538
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Speaker 1: where he just lets it fly. He he does his homework,

539
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Speaker 1: he lets it fly. He doesn't like care what the

540
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Speaker 1: league office things, what the players think. He's not trying

541
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Speaker 1: to cultivate relationships. He has relationships, but he's gonna just

542
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Speaker 1: speak his mind. And most importantly he knows ball, like

543
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Speaker 1: and I think you have to do a little bit

544
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Speaker 1: of study.

545
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Speaker 2: And to keep up with knowing ball, and he really

546
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Speaker 2: knows ball.

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Speaker 3: Who was up in the Terry McCauley is that the

548
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Speaker 3: guy open the boot with them? Were they? Is that

549
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Speaker 3: the right Is that the right name?

550
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Speaker 4: I think it's Terry's one of them. Yeah, he got

551
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Speaker 4: on Thursday.

552
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Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, that's why I can't remember which one

553
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Speaker 3: it is. But he'll ask Terry or whoever the rules

554
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Speaker 3: guy is. He'll ask and then he'll be like, oh,

555
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Speaker 3: I disagree. I I think that's a bad call. I

556
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Speaker 3: don't see that, And like, why did you let the

557
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Speaker 3: other guy speak? You were just gonna ship on him?

558
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Speaker 4: Oh man? Like doesn't he good to try and softball

559
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Speaker 4: at at all?

560
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Speaker 2: So good?

561
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Speaker 3: How'd you guys like my Troy Akman?

562
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Speaker 2: That was good.

563
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna maybe try one here took the Which NFL

564
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Speaker 1: announcer would you want reciting the Blessing of.

565
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Speaker 3: The Menora Kevin Harlan, Oh, my god, that's definitely it.

566
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Speaker 3: No great, mel hell Mela Colombo.

567
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Speaker 2: The guy is drunk. It's fuss so chaw hanakkah. Oh

568
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Speaker 2: it's a big man.

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Speaker 1: Sorry to all the Jewish people out there were because

570
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Speaker 1: I probably butchered that. I've never been to temple. I've

571
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Speaker 1: never really celebrated hankah until I was about eleven or twelve.

572
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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that my mom especially wanted to just

574
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Speaker 1: keep up some tradition, even though they were kind of

575
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Speaker 1: anti religion in general, was doing honkah as a kid.

576
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Speaker 1: So that's the one like blessing or prayer that it's

577
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Speaker 1: stuck in my head from doing it until I was

578
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Speaker 1: about eleven years old, so I still know it. But

579
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Speaker 1: we never actually went to a temple, And around eleven

580
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 1: or twelve, we just had a talk with my parents

581
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Speaker 1: and said, like the Christmas formats just so much better.

582
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Speaker 1: We used to do both, like we used to do both,

583
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Speaker 1: but we just kind of half asked Hanakkah and we

584
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Speaker 1: negotiated just doing Christmas.

585
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Speaker 4: That's a twelve year negotiated.

586
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my brother was a little older, but I

587
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Speaker 1: did most of the negotiating.

588
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Speaker 3: Everything I learn about you, Greg equally does not surprise

589
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Speaker 3: me and delights me.

590
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'll take that as a complimentary.

591
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Speaker 1: My mom's negotiating back was like, we were not getting

592
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Speaker 1: a tree, but we'll get a little like fake bush,

593
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Speaker 1: and we're not calling it Christmas crazy, and we'll just

594
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Speaker 1: call it family day. So we called it family Day.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 5: I went to my first Hanukkah night and hurt the

597
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Speaker 5: prayer the other like what two nights ago, because it's

598
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Speaker 5: tonight night two or three.

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Speaker 2: We're in the middle. We're in the middle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh, it was cool. They sang the song

601
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Speaker 5: when they did three prayers and I didn't really know

602
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Speaker 5: what was going on, but.

603
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Speaker 3: It was cool. It's lovely.

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Speaker 1: Like I think reasonable minds could disagree about, like which

605
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Speaker 1: format is better. It's like you're getting something cool or

606
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Speaker 1: a few things cool for eight straight days or like

607
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: one big But as a kid, I do both.

608
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that is what.

609
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Speaker 4: We trimmed a tree and let the manora.

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Speaker 1: That is what we did back in the day. By

611
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Speaker 1: the way, I heard that, I hope she doesn't mind

612
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Speaker 1: me sharing this, that our love of Kevin Harlan on

613
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Speaker 1: Sunday actually got passed on to Kevin Harlan from her daughter,

614
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Speaker 1: from his daughter.

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Speaker 3: I hope he hears this one too. Yes, Olivia ken.

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Speaker 1: Oli, Yeah, we love Olivia Harlan Decker too, who does

617
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Speaker 1: a great job with Sky Sports, who I've worked with amazing.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate her, Appreciate her passing that on because he is

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Speaker 1: the best. This is a question. There's not a right

620
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: answer to this. It was who would be Wes's favorite player? So,

621
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Speaker 1: for relatively new listeners here Chris Westling, who this podcast

622
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Speaker 1: is is the studio is named after. Of course, we

623
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Speaker 1: did the Around the NFL podcast with him for years,

624
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: one of our great friends. And I picked it out,

625
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Speaker 1: probably because I love talk about Wes anytime, but because

626
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Speaker 1: watching that Chargers Chiefs game on Monday when I when

627
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Speaker 1: I actually got around to watching it, I did just

628
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: think about how much we both loved watching Herbert rookie year,

629
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Speaker 1: and I did think he would really love this Herbert

630
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Year because if you're a Herbert fan, it's like it

631
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: feels like he's like his arms falling off and everything's

632
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: but he's just like making those four really cool player

633
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: plays every game around him, sort of the opposite of

634
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Speaker 1: what his reputation had been where he's like this pretty

635
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: boy but they lose in the end. But no, they're

636
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: like gutty it out and he's been a lot of

637
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Speaker 1: fun to watch. So this question made me think.

638
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Speaker 4: Of that good question. It's such a tough Yeah.

639
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Speaker 1: It's a kind of an impossible one. Knowing what kind

640
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: of players he liked, I'll give you a second to think.

641
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: I also thought about Devon h Chan because he liked

642
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: a fast, versatile back, like he loved speed demons at

643
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Speaker 1: running backs.

644
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Speaker 2: We're very awesome, often his favorite type. You know.

645
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Speaker 3: I sometimes, actually, when these really cool moments happen, I think,

646
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Speaker 3: like it would be really cool to hear him talk

647
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Speaker 3: about that, just like the old times and like the

648
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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 2: Thing, just like that's true to come an, that's a good.

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Speaker 3: So he would talk about that and what he would

651
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: think of it and kind of just like the delight

652
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: and maybe just the like just the craziness of what

653
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: that was and little moments I thought about the other day.

654
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Speaker 3: I was kind of thinking the Woody Marks launching himself

655
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Speaker 3: in the end zone, like little flourishes, little moments like that.

656
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Speaker 3: I think about that actually quite a bit.

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Speaker 5: That's a great question, and I miss getting the analogies

658
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: from the most unexpected random titles from books or movies

659
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 5: or music or something that only Wes could poll in

660
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: that very moment to make it kind of connect. I

661
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 5: feel like Wes always was so good with just like

662
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: making everything more digestible and relatable, but then also bringing

663
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 5: in things that no one would ever think of.

664
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Speaker 1: I think of basketball players too, because, as Wes would

665
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: love to remind you a basketball was his best sport.

666
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: He was a great basketball player, and he was a

667
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: great basketball fan and mine too, So I would love

668
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: to hear him talk about like Shay Gilders Alexander, Like

669
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: when the Celtics were on Iron, I kept wanting to

670
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: hear what he would would say about those teams because

671
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: we talked a lot of basketball.

672
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: Football was football was work. We talked a lot of

673
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: football team.

674
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: I really want his take on Tom Brady, all of

675
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: what Tom Brady is right now, including the Dogs. Interesting

676
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: including that, like, I just want a good ran. I

677
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: want a good rant. I want to know.

678
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: I think he'd get I think he'd be and I

679
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: don't know, but I think he'd get to where I've

680
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: gotten to now, which is that Tom Brady's gotten so

681
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: much better at announcing games that.

682
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: The growth alone is like.

683
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: I really respect that, I really respect that he's just

684
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: gotten more natural. But he also is putting in the work.

685
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: And now I gotta say I'm enjoying Tom much more.

686
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Shout out to Chris. Always think about him this time

687
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: a year.

688
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Why does everyone line up for him in Los Angeles?

689
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: This is not something I knew happened.

690
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So this is more of just a tip.

691
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: I think Los Angeles because of the massive people and

692
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: the great the amount of like vallvolume of holiday inners

693
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: that are happening here.

694
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: It's every holiday.

695
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: It's not just you know, ham is particular to Christmas,

696
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: but like, outsourcing holiday meals is a pretty good way

697
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: to go, and there's like a million great places in

698
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: La So I'm just saying that I threw that question.

699
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: But this is a grocery store.

700
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Everyone is like, now there's a couple famous, there's a

701
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: couple famous like ham spots, but in general that's true

702
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: on like Thanksgiving and stuff like you know, if.

703
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: I've lined up for brisket.

704
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can outsource it, why not do it?

705
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: Would you rather This is a totally random one that's

706
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: more towards the end, but I like it, would you

707
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: rather take on one Will Campbell sized duck or one

708
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: hundred duck sized Will Campbell's What.

709
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: Are they trying to do?

710
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

711
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: What are they? Are they angry?

712
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: The fact that it said would you rather take area?

713
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: Are fighting the ducks?

714
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: Ducks in general.

715
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Are you know, like swans are mean. They're pretty mean,

716
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: like if you come at them. So it's saying, would

717
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: you take on uh, one Will Campbell sized duck?

718
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: Sounds just one one rather than a hundred little ones?

719
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: I think little Will Campbell's.

720
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: Well, and they're duck, they're duck sized Will Campbell's. Now.

721
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Will Campbell famously said he would die. Yeah, but if

722
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: it was a hundred fight and die. If it was

723
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: one hundred Will Campbell's, that actually had like the fight

724
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: of a duck or a Will Campbell. I think that's

725
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: actually a tougher one one duck, that's Will Campbell size.

726
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: You got to figure you can outsmart him in some

727
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: way and just get like a shot in the neck

728
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: at some point.

729
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: It's just one yeah, I'm taking that all day.

730
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: I famously don't I famously pick the worst case scenario

731
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: in these types of things. I'm still waiting on Miles

732
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: Garrett to show up.

733
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: Nowhere.

734
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: Will Aaron Rodgers play football next year? This is from

735
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: mister Mojo Doza.

736
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so in my opinion, And I

737
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: think he's I think you could tell you see these

738
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: shots of him at these wins and he's just like

739
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: looking around and he almost looks like he's on the

740
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: verge of tears, and like he just sort of he

741
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: stays on the field when it's nine degrees to hug

742
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: and take pictures with everybody, like it's one of those things.

743
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: So with Aaron Donald too, like staying just soaking in

744
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: the little moments a little bit more just understanding this

745
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 3: might be it. That's my opinion.

746
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: I thought that after the game, when during the interview

747
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 5: and all of the players were coming up to him

748
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 5: and then he was asked about that, and prior to

749
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 5: that question in the interview, I felt like he was

750
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 5: just sort of on autopilot, and then that sort of

751
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 5: triggered him to go into a deeper, sort of more

752
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: reflective answer, and he was being introspective about it and

753
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 5: kind of like just he had this like I don't

754
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 5: even know the word for it, but it felt like

755
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 5: he was really relishing in the moment and trying to

756
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 5: pause and take it all in. And that contrast against

757
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 5: him walking in to the game, arriving with this like

758
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 5: hoodie on and he.

759
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 4: Looked so miserable. Old. Yeah, but I don't think he's

760
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: gonna play next year.

761
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: I've gotten the feeling lately that he will play next year,

762
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: that he probably believes it's his last season. But the

763
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: reason I think that is because I think they'll be

764
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: I think they'll be a job for him. And if

765
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: there's a job for him, history tells us like they

766
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: usually take it in the end, So we'll see it

767
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of depends on how this ends. Of just getting

768
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: this vibe that like someone's gonna give him a decent

769
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: enough job, whether they should or not, I think it

770
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: could happen all right. Last one, aside from personal favorites Pats,

771
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Rams or Eagles, I like that the Rams is just

772
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: accepted as your favorite. I am seeing who would you

773
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: want to see win the Super Bowl?

774
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: The Bill's Texans.

775
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: I think Chargers would be my first pick.

776
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 4: Really, that'd be.

777
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: Great, Herbert.

778
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: I yeah, I love an underdog and their underdogs in

779
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: their own building, like they're I'm not saying that ownership

780
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: is like the best going and that they're the one

781
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm happy for, but like the Chargers fans who have

782
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: just been like made fun of forever, like do they

783
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: even exist, like well the ones that they have, Like

784
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: that would I don't know, it would be cool.

785
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: That would be cool. I think that would be good

786
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: for Los Angeles overall.

787
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I guess I'm just saying bills.

788
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 4: Bills are Broncos. Broncos would be cool too.

789
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: Oh, Broncos so cool.

790
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, now that you say Broncos, I know we

791
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: got to take a break.

792
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: This is the last one because you don't want to

793
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: here for fantasy talk about No.

794
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: There is another b NEX question, and I'm adding it

795
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: is bo Nicks, just Shane Stike and led Jalen Hurts.

796
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: This is a compliment. He throws the deep ball outside

797
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: the number as well. He's athletic and mobile and pretty smart.

798
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: With the ball, great play caller, top o line, and

799
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: a great defense. Don't see why he can't make the

800
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. First of all, pretty good player comp definitely

801
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: some strengths and weaknesses that are different. I think Bo

802
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: is much more willing to take chances than Jalen Hurts

803
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: his and better throwing. I think he's a better just

804
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: pure playmaker throwing the ball then probably hurts it, although

805
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: Hurts has had his moment.

806
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: But I do like they're very efficient when it's working,

807
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: very efficient. And the risk averse thing is a good

808
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: flag too, because Bonis is not risk averse. Jalen Hurts

809
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: is risk averse and it works.

810
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: Really really does that come with age though, too?

811
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: And I think with Bo it's maybe a higher ceiling

812
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: lower floor. I mean, we saw Jalen Hurts his floor obviously,

813
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: I don't think I think that's an outlier, but that

814
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: and I also think coaching really really matters with this,

815
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: and you've seen it certainly with with Bonnix too.

816
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 4: I just can't get out of my head.

817
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: Sean Payton saying that we started the We're starting the

818
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: year against San Francisco, going to San Francisco in the preseason.

819
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 5: That was their first preseason game, and he wanted to

820
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 5: end the season his last game in San Francisco as

821
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 5: well for the Super Bowl.

822
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: The questions from an account here for fantasy and the

823
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: point that like, why couldn't he make the Super Bowl?

824
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah he could. I mean they are.

825
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: If they're not the closest thing to a favorite, the

826
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: AFC has like, they're right there, and I think the

827
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: recipe is there. We've seen quarterbacks lesser than bo Nicks

828
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: go on runs.

829
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

830
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: You got to do it, though, Jalen Hurts has played

831
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: his very best, like two of the best games he's

832
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: ever played in his whole life. We're in the Super Bowl,

833
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: maybe the two best, So that's what you want.

834
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: We'll see if Bogen get it done.

835
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and let's talk about two great

836
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks from this year. Yes, that's right, Sam Darnold and

837
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford in the Thursday Night game of the year,

838
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: maybe the Thursday Night game of all time back on

839
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: NFL Daily, the Rams are favored by a point and

840
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: a half in Seattle. It's the prime video game. Jordan say,

841
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you might be exaggerating. The greatest

842
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Thursday night game of all time. First of all, it's

843
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: only existed for what a little under twenty years or

844
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: something like that, It's not forever. It is the first

845
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: Thursday Night game of all time where both teams have

846
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: at least eleven wins. So in terms of a big

847
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: game this late in the season, it's hard to imagine

848
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: a bigger game than the two teams I believe are

849
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: the two best teams in the NFL going against each other,

850
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: and one of them is going to be in a

851
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: position where they're likely to have to win three road

852
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: games in the playoffs to make it, and the other

853
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: is in a position where they're in the driver's seat

854
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: to go get that one seat.

855
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: So that's a big game, Jordan, Yes it is, Greg,

856
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: And my comment was more aligned to your pensiant for

857
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 3: hyperbole than it.

858
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: Was I know what I'm saying. This is it hyperbole.

859
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: I asked you if I could take this game with you,

860
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: and I am so excited about this because this has

861
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: huge potential, huge potential. I cannot wait. It was such

862
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: a weird game last time. It was, you know, Seattle

863
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: out gaining Los Angeles four and fourteen yards to two

864
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: hundred and forty nine yards. But Sam Donald having four

865
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: interceptions and based a lot on some of the simulated

866
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: pressure that the Rams were bringing at the time, that

867
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: really messed him up and kind of sent him on

868
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: this course that he's on now. And can he bring

869
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: it back to the Sam Donald that we saw at

870
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season. And the stakes are so

871
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: high even though the Rams made the playoffs, this is

872
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: a game they absolutely want to have for their playoff seating.

873
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: It's just so much fun.

874
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think about those four interceptions because that isn't

875
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 5: the only thing psychologically that Sam Donald is approaching this

876
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 5: game with because when you go back to the previous

877
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: season when he was with the Vikings and which defense

878
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 5: was it that took him down? It was the Rams

879
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: and he was sacked. I don't even know how many

880
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 5: times in that game. They were all over him, and

881
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 5: that I feel like plays such a big role in

882
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 5: just a quarterback's mindset.

883
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: If he throws an interception.

884
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 5: Earlier, loses the ball early, then does that start to

885
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 5: kind of play into his head because I'm looking for

886
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 5: I'm furiously vamping so I can look for the number

887
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: right here. But it was, Yeah, the wild card game

888
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: last year, he sacked nine times. That was the season

889
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 5: ending loss obviously for them. So I just am wondering

890
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 5: how he'll be in the pocket in this one. And

891
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 5: it's interesting to think about the two quarterbacks in this

892
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 5: game because Sam Darnold, everyone is watching how he's done

893
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: in Ryan Grubbs offense, and how you know, is he

894
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: the guy that we saw all year with the Vikings

895
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 5: or is he the guy that we saw against the

896
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 5: Rams when he was with the Vikings and this year

897
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: with the Seahawks. And then on the other side you

898
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 5: have Matthew Stafford who's on this MVP campaign. So the

899
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: two narratives even just at the quarterback position, right, so interesting.

900
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's Stafford's MVP moment. He has a

901
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: huge game in this game, he wins the MVP likely

902
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: especially with.

903
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 3: And the conversation. Yes, uh big for Patrick, it's a.

904
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: Huge for the conversation. I guess you never know.

905
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: If Allen went super nova and Stafford then stubbed his

906
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: toe in the final two weeks with really good matchups

907
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Arizona, you can't just write it in. But

908
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: if he has a good game on Thursday night, he's

909
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: now going to be like a heavy, heavy favorite, and

910
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: he didn't look great in that game. They had one

911
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: hundred and like thirty yards something like that, passing the

912
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: twelve first downs, and Seattle what they do defensively gave

913
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: them a lot of problems. We've talked a lot about

914
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: the thirteen personnel. You were way ahead of that in

915
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: terms of the three tight ends that the Rams like

916
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: to put on the field and how that's really helped

917
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: them unlock their offense. Well, the Seahawks shut that down

918
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: when the two of them played. Yes, they played that

919
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: personnel grouping better than any team all year by far,

920
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: to the point where they kind of just stranglehold did

921
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: the Rams in that game. And yet the last two

922
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: weeks the Rams have used that more than ever, way

923
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: more over the last two weeks, and more effectively than ever.

924
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: So how will that line up?

925
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: Sean McVay talk during the week just about the challenges

926
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: of playing Mike McDonald.

927
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 6: They play really good defense, They're connected on all three levels.

928
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 6: They got great players, great scheme, they got great flexibility

929
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 6: and fluidity you know, on a week to week basis,

930
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 6: and you know, and then when they get when they

931
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 6: get you in some you know, bad spots. I mean

932
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 6: they attack and and they feast on that kind of stuff.

933
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 6: And so whatever Mike said, I totally agree with. And

934
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 6: there's nothing but a ton of respect for this coaching

935
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 6: staff and these players and uh and really this football

936
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 6: team as a whole, not exclusive to the defense. Their

937
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 6: defense is unbelievable, but they're excellent on offense. They're excellent

938
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 6: in the kicking game. There's no weakness. This is as

939
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 6: complete of a football team as there is.

940
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's right. Also he's exhausted. His wife just had

941
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: their second child yesterday, Oh my god, and going on

942
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: to a short week. But yeah, that Mike mas J.

943
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: McCarthy did not do well when you know he had

944
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: a kid right before the game.

945
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: That could that could be a fact.

946
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's he's actually not having the child.

947
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: So I think he's gonna be fine. But that the

948
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald is. So when I talk to coaches on

949
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: both of these staffs, they compare the two coaches to

950
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: each other because Mike McDonald is so good at these adjustments,

951
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 3: and so he's expecting the change up pack, the change

952
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: up pitch that Sean McVeigh threw when thirteen personnel was

953
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: being defended so well as we predicted it would because

954
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 3: Seattle is built to be this multiple where they can defend.

955
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: It was trying to get into more eleven personnel because

956
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 3: it's the same route combinations, it's just using smaller, faster players.

957
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: The problem is Davante Adams might not be available because

958
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: of the hamstring injury, so you can as easily go

959
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: back and forth between thirteen and eleven personnel in the

960
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: way that they would prefer to because you don't know

961
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: if he's going to play, and then you're relying on yes,

962
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: Pukunaku is having another unreal season. Then also Knate monfil

963
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: Jordan Whittington, and again a lot of pass catching tight ends.

964
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: And the interesting thing about this game to me is

965
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: that even though we've seen I think this is the

966
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: perfect fit between Clint Kubiak and Sam Donald, and I

967
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: think that it's the perfect like modern throwback of an offense.

968
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: The Rams are really gonna I think miss Quenton Lake

969
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: having Quenton Lake in this game, because having somebody who

970
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: can command the middle of the field the way that

971
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: Quenton Lake did and he's injured now having him able

972
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: to take up that space and help dictate some of

973
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 3: their coverage but also dictate some of their pressures because

974
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 3: the Rams are not getting a lot of sacks on

975
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: their pressures. They're actually under league average at converting pressure

976
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: to sacks right now Corny Neeckchen stats. But they're forcing turnovers.

977
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: They have the highest number of turnovers forced from pressure

978
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: in the NFL this year, and a lot of that

979
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: is what happened to Sam Donald in the last game.

980
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: But a lot of that was because they could move

981
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: Quenton Lake like what I mentioned in some of these

982
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: simulated pressures where you look like you're going to come

983
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 3: in on a blitz, but then you're dropping back and

984
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: making the zone very cloudy and murky, which made Sam

985
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: Darnald not really understand where he was throwing the ball.

986
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: So this is where I think this is absolute necessity

987
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: to a have Krishula designed some different types of looks

988
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: this time, but then also for Sam Donald to potentially

989
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 3: be able to attack the middle of the field.

990
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have added a dimension to their offense

991
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: with Rashid Shaheed. I think they really needed that to

992
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: have like different layers. But since that Rams game, basically

993
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: every opponent has taken some of that playbook and sent

994
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure. Minnesota would do it in any week,

995
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: but they did it at Sam Donald Atlanta. It worked

996
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: for a half until it didn't. And Indianapolis played an

997
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: awesome defensive game against Seattle last week, and they got

998
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: back Jake Sundell their center last week. Their offensive line

999
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: has not had the development I think that they would

1000
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: like over the course of the season. The run game,

1001
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: which I was hoping had kind of turned a corner,

1002
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: has maybe taken a little bit of a step back

1003
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: the last two games for Seattle, and they're not really

1004
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: protecting Donald well soir.

1005
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 5: Left tackle Charles Cross he got hurt in yes the

1006
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 5: last game, so he might not go. So in the

1007
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 5: most important game of the year, it might be decided

1008
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 5: by the backup left tackle in terms of how much

1009
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 5: time Donald is going to have. Can JSN get enough separation, Like.

1010
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: Jared RS needs a big game, he needs a big game.

1011
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 3: He's dying for a big game.

1012
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 5: And not only that, but the Seahawks they've started so

1013
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 5: unbelievably slow, like especially in especially in these last five games.

1014
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 5: I think they've only scored something like twelve points in

1015
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: the last first quarters over their last five games, and

1016
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 5: it's just the complete opposite of what the Rams do.

1017
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 5: The Rams come out and they try and score as

1018
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 5: quickly as possible, so things could really start lopsided fast.

1019
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1020
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: And the other thing that I think is like maybe

1021
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: the sneaky, no pun intended element of this matchup is

1022
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 3: I warned about this before Matthew Stafford played in Carolina.

1023
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford in the rain. If this rain it rains

1024
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: like it usually is in Seattle, Matthew Stafford had a

1025
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: real issue. One of the interceptions was a freak thing,

1026
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: but had a real issue. He lost a fumble. This

1027
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: defense is going to get after him, and the elements

1028
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: are not going to be fun. And Pukinakua, who's, like

1029
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 3: I said, but unbelievable. He's also had one big drop

1030
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 3: over the last couple. I don't automatically give the edge

1031
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: to the Rams offense in elements like that. Now, if

1032
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: they run the ball the way they've been running it,

1033
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: they'll be okay. But you know it's it's Sean McVay

1034
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: and it's he is, so he's gotten so used to

1035
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: just having Seattle's number when Pete Carroll was there, He's

1036
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 3: gonna want to throw the hell out of the ball.

1037
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: I eight, Myers is going to kick like seven field goals.

1038
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be. That could be an advantage.

1039
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: We haven't really seen the thick kicker Harrison mevhis who's

1040
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: not really that thick anyways. It's like, I know, calm

1041
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: down with the thick kicker. The I've never seen a

1042
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: forecast like this. It says definite rain. I mean it's

1043
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: just not does not. Yeah, definite rain.

1044
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying definite darkly chaotic. Matthew Stafford patent.

1045
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: And there's nothing worse than cold rain because it's going

1046
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: to be a little too warm for it to be snow,

1047
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: but it's going to be in the low forties, maybe

1048
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: high thirties.

1049
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: That's a great call out. And you mentioned DeVante Adams.

1050
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: Just to update that, our insider Ian Rappaport at NFL

1051
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: Network said initially week to week, which means he's out

1052
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: according to Rappaport at least as of Monday.

1053
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: But the Chamber has showed up.

1054
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: The Immortal Chamber is on site.

1055
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: McVeigh said, We're going to try to take it all

1056
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: the way up to game time. It could be a

1057
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: game time decision. But when Puka Nakua spoke to the media.

1058
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: He just talked about how it's going to be important

1059
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: for Mumfield and these younger receivers to step up, talking

1060
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: as if he already knew. DeVante Adams is not playing

1061
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: in this game. So I would be surprised if Devanta

1062
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: Adams plays, and.

1063
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: That's we just use it as like a decoy.

1064
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: That's a big deal though, Like they don't have I know,

1065
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: Colby Parkinson's been awesome and I kind of think he

1066
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: would be their number two receiver in this game.

1067
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: He has been the last few weeks.

1068
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: Right, DeVante Adams has seven hundred and eighty nine yards

1069
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: this year and fourteen touchdowns. No one else on that

1070
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: team has over three hundred. Like it is that someone pops.

1071
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 5: Up for a started right away between the two of them, right, Yeah,

1072
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 5: they're incredible, and even last week like that wasn't just

1073
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 5: all about him in the red zone.

1074
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: So it really does change things up.

1075
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: And then you've been talking about the weaknesses of the

1076
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: Rams all season. It's probably at cornerback and certainly has

1077
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: been lately. And you think about that game last week

1078
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: where Emmanuel Forbes and Durant are giving up a lot

1079
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: of big plays, And I do think this is where

1080
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: again it could be a big Shaheed game because they

1081
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: haven't had enough elements the Seahawks that is maybe to

1082
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: be a dominant offense, but Shaheed has been getting in

1083
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: the mix on just normal plays over the last few weeks.

1084
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: He's been like four for seventy six and it can't

1085
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: just be all JSN. So is it an aj Barner game?

1086
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: He's been really good for them at tight end? Is

1087
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: it a Shaheed game?

1088
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: Like?

1089
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: That's one where I think the defenses kind of have

1090
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: the edge on both sides. They are the top two

1091
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: defenses in the entire NFL in success rate since week twelve,

1092
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: So they are coming down the home stretch playing the

1093
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: best defense. And with this weather, it might not be

1094
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: like the greatest MVP showcase, but as long as you

1095
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: make the play at the end, that's what Stafford needs

1096
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: to get that game and history.

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00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 3: So I hear yeah, And this is gonna be exciting

1098
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 3: because usually when everybody's talking about Matthew Stafford and he's

1099
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: trying to even quiet them from chanting it in the

1100
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: locker room post game, chanting MVP in the locker room

1101
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 3: post game usually something very weird is about to happen.

1102
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: I've seen too many of these to rule chaos out,

1103
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 3: but I do think that there are sneaky like edges

1104
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: and leverage points on both sides. Braden Fisk dealing with

1105
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: a sort of a finicky ankle right now, that's a

1106
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: huge leverage point to me, because you need to be

1107
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: able to rush the way that you want to rush.

1108
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 3: And then on the other side, like I do think

1109
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: that it could be a big A J. Barner game

1110
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: because they're going to have to try to cap the

1111
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: explosives and you're gonna have to try to attack the

1112
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: middle of the underneath of those zones, and a J

1113
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: Barner minus Quinton Lake in the middle of a field

1114
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: is going to be that target.

1115
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 4: How many times will we hear Al Michaels talk about

1116
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 4: young geniuses in this game between Sean McVay, do you

1117
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: think Donald, do.

1118
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 3: You think what? Do you think we'll get the picture

1119
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: of the of course in coaching staff or.

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00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: Do we just get a little more excitement if we

1121
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: have a game winning field goal at the end.

1122
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: That's all Masks.

1123
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: You want excitement. You listen to me and Greg Rosenthal

1124
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 3: going live after the game.

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00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: What a what a call? Do you want to make

1126
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: a pick? Because you famously don't like making predictions, And

1127
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: then you went hard on the previous show with your

1128
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: dolphins and that thing crashed into the ground and to

1129
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: the ground.

1130
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't know.

1131
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: I think the important part of being a takes woman

1132
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: is to keep making those takes, keep making those picks.

1133
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm not a takes woman.

1134
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: Well now you are that you're h and one with

1135
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: the dolphin nom kidding, you know I have to pick.

1136
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: I just know I have to pick the Rams. It's

1137
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 3: like it's like you'd be at like, of course I

1138
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: have to pick the Rams.

1139
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you looking?

1140
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 3: These are the two best teams in football. You can't

1141
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: go wrong with a pick here.

1142
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, the Rams are gonna sweep them.

1143
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: If they don't, I think so.

1144
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: If they don't Seattle, they basically knock the Rams out

1145
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: of the division title, because at that point, the Rams

1146
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: would be a game back, and Seattle's magic number to

1147
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: eliminate the Rams from winning the division would be one. Now,

1148
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: Seattle finishes with two relatively tricky games at Carolina at

1149
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: San Francisco, but all they would have to do is

1150
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: win one of those two in addition to beating the Rams.

1151
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: The sneaky bigger than people think possibility here is that

1152
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: the Seahawks win this game HM and that week eighteen

1153
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers, if San Francisco could get there,

1154
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: could actually be for the one seed. Like the D

1155
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: nine ers have a real chance.

1156
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: And they have a game up on Seattle.

1157
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: They have a lot of work though, to do in

1158
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: the meantime. The forty nine ers do with the at

1159
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: the Colts and then home for the Bear, so their

1160
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: schedule is tough too. But it is a three team

1161
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: race that the Rams, like I said, they'll be in

1162
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: the driver's seat. If they win, they almost certainly are

1163
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: out of the division race.

1164
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: If they lose, I.

1165
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 5: Mean, the winner basically controls their own destiny. For the

1166
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 5: one seed.

1167
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: I'll take the Rams. It worries It worries me.

1168
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, that worries me that we're all taking the Rams.

1169
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: It does worry me.

1170
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: How well the Seahawks played against them last time, and

1171
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: when I watched a little bit of that that game back,

1172
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: it's really their front I think is so deep and

1173
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: versatile and strong that I think they're better on defense

1174
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: in terms of their front than the Rams offensive line,

1175
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: who's played really well this year, but that it's a

1176
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: rare time where their offensive line might get in their way.

1177
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: I think the Rams find a way because of the

1178
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: running game. Better running game, bad weather, let's go, let's

1179
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: go Rams. Either way, I like both these teams, and

1180
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't think, yeah.

1181
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 3: These are these two teams. What a masterpiece all season

1182
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 3: from both of how they're built, what they did to

1183
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 3: try to fix previous issues, both sides, the coaching, the adjustments, like,

1184
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: it's awesome, it's been fun.

1185
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm pre coping.

1186
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: And this actually undercuts my idea that this is the

1187
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: biggest Thursday night game of all time because these two

1188
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: teams are both so good. I do think they are

1189
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: the best two teams in the NFL that if either

1190
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: one of them is the five seed, I think they

1191
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: can make the super Bowl. Still, I'm not crossing them off. Obviously,

1192
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: the chances are less than if you're the one seed.

1193
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: But I think they're both good enough. We've seen it

1194
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: happen a number of times before. For a team to

1195
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: make the super Bowl from that spot, it would be

1196
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: a team like the.

1197
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: Seahawks or the Rams. So this isn't everything Okay, all right,

1198
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: can't wait again.

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00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be live after that game, but we have

1200
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: more show in between. We've got a big time preview

1201
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: show with Jordan rod Rigg and Patrick Claybon coming up

1202
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: on Wednesday.

1203
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: And Colleen's going to go stand in line for some

1204
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 3: ham Yeah.

1205
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: You guys gotta let me know the spots.

1206
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: Wait, we're not gonna see you next Tuesday.

1207
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 5: Guys, Merry Christmas and Happy Honakhahs.

1208
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: Send those holiday cards out nine hundred District Drive, Inglewood, California,

1209
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: have care of Colleen Wilf.

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Speaker 2: We read them after Christmas. We'll see you then