1 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is that Jesse 2 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Kelly show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on 3 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: an ass Doctor Jesse Friday reminding you you can email 4 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: the show Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com. Jesse at 5 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Jesse kellyshow dot com should be in most of the week. 6 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: Next week we will be doing a show on Monday. 7 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: You will have medal of honor Monday. I think Tuesday 8 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: we're toast. I think that's a travel day. It's right, Chris, 9 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: So no show Tuesday, and then Friday of next week. 10 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: I know we're toast, and then all the book stuff 11 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: is over, the book media tour and then the book tour, 12 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: and we're back to your regularly scheduled programming. We will 13 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: cross our fingers and see if we made the old 14 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller list. How about to finish a 15 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: point that we were talking about before, about this chat 16 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: GPT thing how they can write in your voice. Chris 17 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: dialed it up for me and he essentially told this 18 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: thing talk to me as if you were Jesse Kelly 19 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: about abortion. Now, what I'm about to read for you 20 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: is not me. This is not me. This is something 21 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: a computer came up with, all right, you ready, well, 22 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: let me tell you something about abortion, my friend. It 23 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: is one of the most contentious and morally charged issues 24 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: of our time. I firmly believe that life begins at conception, 25 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: and as such I cannot condone the termination of an 26 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: innocent life. Abortion is nothing short of taking the life 27 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: of an unborn child, and that goes against the very 28 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: principles that our society should uphold. You see, every human being, 29 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: regardless of their stage of development, has intrinsic value and 30 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: deserves the right to life. It's not about clump of 31 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: cells or a woman's choice. It's about recognizing the humanity 32 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: and the You see that, now you would understand that 33 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: I would never use a word like intrinsic. I don't 34 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: even know what that means. But for the most part, 35 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: does that sound like something I would write. Of course 36 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: it does. It's gonna be scary wild times in the future, 37 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: wild times in the future, as we've moved into a 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: world where everything can be crazy. Oh, Chris said, it 39 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: took them two seconds to print that, two seconds like that. 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm not ready for this world, man, I'm not ready 41 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: for this world. Give me my red lobster, and I'm 42 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: gonna call it a day, Jesse, Is it a good 43 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: thing to default on the debt? We're not going to 44 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: decrease spending. We're going to rack up more debt and 45 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: getting us in a worse financiation, making things worse when 46 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: we do default. Wouldn't it be better to do it 47 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: now rather than later? Well, the short answer to that 48 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: question is yes. And here's the reality. That's the ugly 49 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: reality of life. There's not even any point in talking 50 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: about it because it's ugly and you can't do anything 51 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: about it. I can't do anything about it except for 52 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: start voting more in primaries than we do. But politicians, 53 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: when they run for office, this is not an American thing. 54 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: This is a history of the world thing. And this 55 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: would have applied if you're trying to be chosen as 56 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: the chief of the Mongols or something like the khan 57 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: or the Mongols. It's very difficult to run for office 58 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: describing for the people all the things you're not going 59 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: to do. It's easy to run for office running for 60 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: all the things you're going to do for the people. 61 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: Elect me, Elect Jesse. And and here's what I'm gonna 62 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: give you here's what I'm gonna do for you. Here's 63 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna make happen for you in your life. 64 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh you're unhappy about this, I'm gonna fix that. You're 65 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: unhappy about that, I'm gonna fix that too. I'm jesse 66 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: vote for me because I'm going to do everything for you. 67 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: And so the truth is this, Yes, Democrats spend absurd 68 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: amounts of money, crazy money we don't have. So do Republicans. 69 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: Every single time, long before COVID ever got here, with 70 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and a Republican president, 71 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: bill after bill after bill after bill, gigantic swampy bill 72 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: after gigantic swampy bill, sailed through the Republican House, sailed 73 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: through the Republican Senate, and was signed into law by 74 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Every single time, bill after bill after bill 75 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: after bill, same as it ever was. George Bush was 76 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: the same way Bill Clinton was, the same way Barack 77 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: Obama was, the same way George HW. Bus Bush was, 78 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: the same way Ronald Reagan was the same way, big 79 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: bill after big bill after big bill. Because these people 80 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: all run for office. This is what I'm gonna do, 81 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: and we're gonna take on the corruption and Democrats spend 82 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: too much money, and I won't fix it all. And 83 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: the second they get there, they're presented with a bill 84 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: that takes gigantic gobs of your money, in my money, 85 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: tax payer money, and hands it out to their friends, 86 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: hands it out to this district, hands it out to 87 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: this state. Here's what you're going to get. How about 88 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: a new airport for you. Oh, let's build you a 89 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: new school. Hey, let's build you a new park. Let's 90 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: build you a new this every congressman wants to go home. 91 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Every congressman wants to go back to his district and 92 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: explain to them all all the goodies he's bringing to 93 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: the district. I remember, like it was yesterday. I'll tell 94 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: you a little story. So I was running for congress 95 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: back in the day. You remember, I got out of 96 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: the Marines, had never been political. I went back to 97 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: working construction. I got mad about Barack Obama running for office, 98 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: and I decided I wanted to do something about it. 99 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: So I was going to run for office. I was 100 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: going to put a stop to it. So I start running. 101 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: And this is the Tea party year where the tea 102 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: parties start happening and I was then pretty much exactly 103 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: as I am now, as far right as you can imagine. 104 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: And I remember this was my first introduction because it 105 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: was my first introduction to politics. It was my first 106 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: introduction to how disappointing our own side can be. Meaning this, 107 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: I was at every single event because no one knew 108 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: who I was, so I was always out there politicket, 109 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: always out there trying to get this done and trying 110 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: to get that done, and trying to meet people and 111 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: shake hands and kiss babies and give speeches and answer questions. 112 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: And this is who I am, and this is what 113 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: I stand for, and I'm out there and I'm running. 114 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: And time after time after time I would get asked 115 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 1: about pork spending, the extra spending bills for the little 116 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: special projects, and as you can imagine, I would rail 117 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: against it every time. No, it's ridiculous, No it's over 118 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: the top. And yeah, many people agreed with me. Many 119 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: people Republicans did not. They would actually argue with me loudly, well, 120 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: why wouldn't why shouldn't we have some of this? Oh 121 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: so just they're gonna get some and we're never gonna 122 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: get any. I want some. I want some of that 123 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: can't we get some of that. Hey, Jesse, we need 124 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: a new airport. Can't you get us some money for 125 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: a new airport. Hey, Jesse, we need a new highway. 126 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Can't you get us some money if you get elected 127 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: for a new highway? Jesse. I want this, Jesse, I 128 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: want that. Jesse, bring me this. The truth is, there's 129 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: going to be a collapse. Like you and I cannot 130 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: possibly imagine a financial collapse at some point in this nation. 131 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: It won't be today, it won't be tomorrow, but there 132 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: will be a fiscal collapse, probably unlike anything that has 133 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: ever been seen in the history of mankind. With America. 134 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Why because we've piled up way more death than any 135 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: nation ever has in the history of mankind. So when 136 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: our bubble goes pop, it's gonna pop, and it's gonna 137 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: blow right in our places big time. It's gonna be 138 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: ugly because we can't stop, and we won't stop, so 139 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: there's almost no point in even discussing it. Republicans will 140 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: never stop spending, they'll never cut spending. If Republicans even 141 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: attempt to reduce future spending increases, everyone yells and screams, 142 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: and half the weeny low tgo piers are go out there. Well, 143 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean we have to. We can't cut everything. I mean, 144 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: this is dangerous. So nothing ever gets cut. So the 145 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: ex Republican president, if we ever have one, he'll keep 146 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: signing these huge bills, no matter who it is. And 147 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: the next Democrat president will keep signing these huge bills, 148 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: and the people will keep demanding more and more handouts 149 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: and more and more goodies, and eventually the bubble will 150 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: go pop, and then we're in trouble. And that's a 151 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: big reason why I call it the low tgop because 152 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: what we really need, what we really need is bold leadership. 153 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: What we need is one person, at least one to 154 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: stand up and say no, no more, Nope, your bill 155 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: is vetoed, Nope, not doing it, Nope, no more swamp spending. 156 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: But no president, Republican or Democrat, wants to do that 157 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: because then his presidency looks like a failure or he 158 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: loses reelection. As soon as he starts vetowing spending bills, 159 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: then there's a good chance he loses reelection. And that's 160 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: the pickle Worr in, all right, should you pay taxes? 161 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Somebody doesn't want to pay taxes anymore. Grilled cheese sandwiches. 162 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: How do I shower? Being so tall and by boycotting 163 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: communist businesses, are we actually destroying capitalism? That's an interesting question, 164 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: isn't it? 165 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 2: All that? 166 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: And so much more is still to come? On the 167 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: world famous Jesse Kelly show. What we need is boldness, 168 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: though what we need is a high TGP. We've really 169 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: never had one of those in my lifetime. I'd sure 170 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: love to have one, wouldn't you. Maybe maybe the GOP 171 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: needs some chalk. Maybe the GOP needs a male vitality 172 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: stack from chalk. Twenty percent increase in your testosterone in 173 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: ninety days. Maybe the ladies of the GOP need a 174 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: female vitality stack from chalk. Maybe the whole country needs 175 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: natural herbal supplements. Enough big pharma, enough chugging estrogen in 176 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: your water without doing something about it. Go to cchoq 177 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: dot com promo code hits you thirty five percent off subscriptions. 178 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: Get a subscription because only suckers pay full price for things, 179 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: always get a deal. I know I sound like Chris, 180 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: but it's true. C hoq dot com promo code Jesse. 181 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: All right, all right, enough politics for a second. Here's 182 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: an interesting question, Jesse do you grill both sides of 183 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: each slice on a grilled cheese sandwich before you make 184 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: the grilled cheese sandwich? And grocery carts? Same guy, two 185 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: different questions. Let's dig into grilled cheese and then we'll 186 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: get into should you pay taxes? Next? Jesse Kelly, it 187 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show. I want to ask doctor 188 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: Jesse Friday. Don't forget. You can download the iHeartRadio app free. 189 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Don't forget. You can download the podcast free on iHeart, Google, Spotify, iTunes. 190 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: Don't forget. The book tour begins tomorrow tomorrow, and it's 191 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: better if you buy a ticket. We have done the 192 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: best we can to prep these bookstores for what is coming. 193 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they realize what is coming. I've tried 194 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: to warn them about how many of you savages are coming, 195 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: and they don't seem to understand yet. But they about 196 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: to find out. Starting Saturday, they are going to find out. 197 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: Get your ticket, Get all the info for the book 198 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: tour at Jesse kellybook dot com. Chris, I don't like 199 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: you dogging on Alabama, Chris, because Chris just played that 200 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: sweet Home Alabama song and then he tried to make 201 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: fun of Alabama as a beach state, saying the beach 202 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: is super small. Chris, it doesn't look like it does 203 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: on the map. Idiot. It's a big beach. It's not 204 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: like you walk down there and it's fifty feet long. 205 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: Orange beach is gorgeous and nobody knows about it. It No, 206 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: nobody knows it's longer than one hundred feet Chris. Nobody 207 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: knows about the beach. That's part of the beauty of it. Now, 208 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: I will tell you this, Chris, having spent some time 209 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: in Alabama, I haven't met many Jews there. I don't know. 210 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a big Jewish population in Alabama. 211 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: There's not. There's really not. Do you guys have like 212 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: a special website set up where you can tell how 213 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: many of you are somewhere or what? Shut up, Chris, 214 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: there really are. I was kidding. I was joking. Oh Man, 215 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: probably put that right next to your space lasers. Anyway, 216 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: let's get back to some ass. Doctor Jesse questions, let's 217 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: dig into the important things. By the way, well, quick, 218 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: quick thing. I wanted to know more about this Trump indictment, 219 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: and I didn't want any pom palm waving. I wanted 220 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: a real legal mind. I want to know the nitty 221 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: gritty of this stuff. I want to know details, whether 222 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: they're uncomfortable or not. Is Trump in trouble? Are these 223 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: things as ridiculous as I've been led to believe? What's 224 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: the deal? Josh Hammer, my buddy, Josh Hammer is going 225 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: to join me in about next segment? What however, alm 226 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: it is ten minutes from now. Josh Hammer's going to 227 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: join me and we'll talk to job about it? All right? Jesse, 228 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: my anti communist son turned me onto your show almost 229 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: a year ago, and now I listen as much as 230 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: I can. One grilled cheese? Do you grill both sides 231 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: of each slice before you add cheese? I do, and 232 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: I think it makes a better sandwich. Okay, let's dwell 233 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: on that for a moment. I'm ashamed to admit I don't. 234 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm ashamed to admit it is every 235 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: person I know who's a real grilled cheese master they do, 236 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: and they tell me it makes such a difference. I 237 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: am used to a more traditional way one my mom 238 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: of my mom My mom would make grilled cheese sandwiches 239 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: with velveta. When I was a kid, and there's nothing 240 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: like a grilled cheese sandwich with velvita, Oh my gosh. 241 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: And then two, when I was in the Marines, you 242 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: never get enough food in the Marines. And you're because 243 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: you're working out all the time. You're always hungry. You 244 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: always need some sort of a stash of food in 245 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: your barracks room. But you don't have a ton of 246 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: room in your barracks room. What I got was a 247 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: George form and grille. And what better than get yourself 248 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: a little mini fridge, a George form and grille, and 249 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: then all you need is a loaf for bread, butter 250 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: and American cheese slices. And if it was a Friday 251 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: or Saturday night and we were stuck in the barracks, 252 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: we couldn't go out and chase girls around or something 253 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: like that, we'd sit around the barracks room, maybe one 254 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: or two beverages, and I would just bust out the 255 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: grilled cheese supplies and just start that's a Sana mix, 256 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: making grilled cheese sandwiches. Start selling them bad boys for 257 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: a dollar. Oh my goodness, I was filthy rich. Oftentimes 258 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: I would just give them away, I should point out, 259 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: but a grilled cheese sandwich on a George Forman grill. Gosh, 260 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: that's fantastic. So no, I don't do both sides thing. 261 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: I probably should do the both sides thing, but I 262 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: do not. Oracle, I took your advice. I moved from 263 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: a blue state to a red state in South Carolina. Oh, 264 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: I love South Carolina. Gosh, that's great. I just moved 265 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: into a new house and the shower head is lower 266 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: than I'm used to. I'm only six foot and I 267 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: have to bend down to wash my hair. My question is, 268 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: how does a tall freak like you take a shower? 269 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: That's not very nice. That's not very nice. His name 270 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: is Scott now from South Carolina. I'm not a freak. 271 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm six ' eight, all right, I'm above average. Part 272 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: of being six eight is now. Look, I'm not complaining 273 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: about the way God made me. I'm happy to be 274 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: six eight. It's fun. I enjoy it. There are some 275 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: serious drawbacks buying clothes. I cannot order pants off the shelf. 276 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Nobody has shoes my size. I have to special order 277 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: my shoes because I have big feet. Airline tickets mega 278 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: expensive because you really can't fly regular economy if I 279 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: can't get an emergency exit seat, I have to buy 280 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: a first class ticket. Not any fun. And bed and showers. 281 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: Beds are a nightmare. It's been to the it's to 282 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: the point now where I've slept with my feet hanging 283 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: off the bed my whole life that I can't sleep 284 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: unless my feet are hanging off the bed. If my 285 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: feet are up on the bed, it messes me up 286 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: for some reason. I just can't do it. And showers. 287 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: Showers are the worst. It's not just how long I am, 288 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: how tall I am. It's that my arms are long 289 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: too right, and I have wide shoulders. So no matter what, 290 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: if the shower's thin, I'm banging my elbows into the walls. 291 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: I'm banging it into the curtain, and then the curtain 292 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: sticks to you and you're trying to fight the curtain 293 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: off of you. Oh my gosh, it's like a clinging girlfriend. 294 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: And the showers, I have to essentially kneel down, not 295 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: on my knees, but I have to do an air 296 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: squat almost in almost every shower, I have to basically 297 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: hold an air squat to rinse off my head or 298 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: wash out my eyes. It looks six eighths fun. Don't 299 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: get me wrong, I wouldn't give it back Lord, thank you, 300 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: But there are parts of it that are not for everyone. 301 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: They are taxing, they are taxing. We have many, many 302 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: more asked doctor Jesse questions about boycotting businesses? Is that right? 303 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: Is that wrong? Is that against capitalism? Should you pay taxes? 304 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to address that one. What's my favorite NFL team? 305 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: A little bit weird, but there we are. Let's deal 306 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: with the Trump charges first, though not for me. From 307 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: an expert on these things. Josh Hammer is gonna join 308 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: me next, no bias either way. I want to know 309 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: are these legit? I have been told these are the 310 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: baby charges. The real big boy stuff comes next week. 311 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: But even baby charges can send you to prison. Is 312 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Trump looking at prison? Did he actually do something wrong? 313 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: Let's find out from Josh next. I wonder if my 314 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Patriots Supply has grilled cheese sandwiches. Now, hear me out, Chris. 315 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: Everyone already knows that my Patriots Supply has these incredible 316 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: three month food kits, and they breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, 317 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: drinks two thousand calories a day to keep you alive 318 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: when everything goes to crap around us, and everyone needs 319 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: one of these. Every person who need in your home 320 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: needs one of these. But I don't even think you 321 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: could pull off a grilled cheese sandwich into my Patriots 322 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: Supply emergency three month food kit. What if we're craving 323 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: one though, You know what, I'm going to reach out 324 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: to my friends at my Patriots Supply and see if 325 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: they can work some magic magic and get us an 326 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: emergency three month food kit with a special Jesse Kelly 327 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: grilled cheese sandwich in it. And then when the apocalypse comes, 328 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: you can think about me as soon as you're eating 329 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: your grilled cheese. Also, get your emergency three month food 330 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: kit ships anonymously, ships free, and it's something we all 331 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: need right now. Prepare with Jesse Kelly dot com gets 332 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: you two hundred dollars off. Prepare with Jesse Kelly dot com, 333 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: go get a couple of these things now. The Jesse 334 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: Kelly Show It's still real to me, Dammit, the Ternstacks. 335 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. And I can't even 336 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: tell you how much I respect the fact that that 337 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: my buddy Josh Hammer chooses mc hammer to come in. 338 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: That is such great selection for music. But we don't 339 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: have time for niceties like that today because we've got 340 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry. My buddy, Josh Hammer of the 341 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Josh Hammer Show joins us now because there's an indictment 342 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: and all kinds there's more indictments coming in this indictment, 343 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not a lawyer, and I don't understand anything 344 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: about the law, and Josh knows all kinds of stuff 345 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: about that. So let's begin with my buddy, Josh. Josh, Okay, 346 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: talk to me about this indictment Trump is facing from 347 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: Jack Smith in Florida. 348 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: Jesse, I thought that you would get a kick out 349 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: of an intro music, so glad to have my suspicions confirmed. Look, 350 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: I read through the whole indictment. I have lots of 351 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: mixed thoughts on this. So look, everything that you're hearing 352 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: about the crossing of the Rubican the point of no return, 353 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: and this is Banana republics that were going down the 354 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: road of South America, you know, Jay Gavara Bolivia. I'm 355 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: sympathetic to all of that. I mean, for pure reasons 356 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: of national stability, of civilizational sanity, and trying to keep 357 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: the country together. This prosecution never should have been brought. 358 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: I completely agree with that. On the other hand, I 359 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: did read through the entire indictment and it looks really bad. 360 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just simply no way to read through 361 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: that and conclude that the former president acted in good faith. Here. 362 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: I mean, they have ridiculous amounts of circumstantial evidence of 363 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: conversations from Bedminster Golf Club in New Jersey where he's 364 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: talking with these reporters and authors and showing all sorts 365 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: of sense and material about possible plans to bomb an 366 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: unnamed foreign country. I mean, you know, it's kind of 367 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: out of a movie, honestly. I mean it really, really 368 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: really looks incredibly sloppy, and I think it kind of 369 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: gives off the field to someone who read it like myself, 370 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: of someone who was kind of just a little drunk 371 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: on power and just ridiculously flippant with the most sensitive 372 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 3: information that this government has. And you know, Jesse, you 373 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: served honorably in the armed forces. I don't need to 374 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: be the one to tell you, but this is serious stuff. 375 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: I mean, these documents are absolutely serious stuff. So look, 376 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: a lot can depends on the jury pool. Obviously, it's 377 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: here in the Southern Dishes, of Florida, where I live. 378 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: So it should be a slightly more favorable jury, certainly 379 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 3: than what hold get up in Manhattan with Alvin Bragg. 380 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: But if you're trying to compare the two indictments that 381 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: have been handed down so far, there's really no comparison. 382 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: What happened in New York City was a total sham 383 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: and a total travesty. This, like I said, suld never 384 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: had been brought for the sheer reason of trying to 385 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: keep the country together and depressed in that this that's 386 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: a prosecuted former president. But the facts really do not 387 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 3: read very well for the former president, that's for sure. 388 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's a lot to swallow. I will swallow. 389 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Can you explain what are the facts? What did he take? 390 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: And I was told that he can classify whatever he 391 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: wants on the way out the door. If he's walking 392 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: out the door with the box of documents, he can 393 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: look down and say they're declassified. Now, was I misled? 394 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: What did he take? 395 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: So he took dozens, perhaps hundreds of boxes of documents? Well, 396 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: he did take hundreds of documents, not all those boxes 397 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: were classified. The actual number that the FBI and dj 398 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: are charging him with taken when it comes to classified 399 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: or secret of documents, tale's thirty seven or thirty eight 400 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 3: or so. And you know, at that point, when you 401 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 3: get down to the nitty gritty of actually enumerting, listing 402 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: off each document, you know that you're talking about fairly 403 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: serious stuff at that point. Look, your question is actually 404 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 3: a very good one. So there is a bit of 405 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: an intellectual tension going on here. Right. On the one hand, 406 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: the indictment is kind of black letter of law, Like 407 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: I read it, I've gotten you know, I clirked on 408 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: a federal appeals court. I dealt with criminal indictments a lot. 409 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: It seems to me like the prosecutors here they basically 410 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 3: did what the statute calls for. I mean, there's not 411 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: really any kind of underhanded Vivia tactics here. The actions 412 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: that they describe do match the statutes in the US 413 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: Criminal Code that they are charging the Forum president with. 414 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: Here's the intellectual tension. The tension is that a lot 415 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: of current law when it comes to classified document retention, 416 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: especially for former presidents, is constitutionally dubious in my opinion. 417 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: And you're in chief prerogative, like you alluded to, if 418 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 3: you were the president of the United States, you do have, 419 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: in my opinion, sweeping constitutional authority to make declassification visions, 420 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: no matter what current statute or no matter what current 421 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 3: regulations have. Now, the problem for Trump is that there 422 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: is no evidence that he actually did that, that he 423 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: actually followed any of the rules. So then he kind 424 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: of gets the hypothetical. Could he have just subjectively thought 425 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: it in his head, did the mere act of actually 426 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: taking those boxes on January twentieth, twenty twenty one, therefore 427 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: actually declassify them due to his actions? Maybe, but you 428 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: know the fat pattern, he didn't play it very well. 429 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: I mean, he had so many opportunities here to explain 430 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: what he was doing. Instead, the allegations is that he 431 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 3: worked with the other person, charged his former valets driver 432 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: to move the boxes from one room to the other, 433 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: he appear him. He allegedly directed various attorneys and lawyers 434 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: to lie to the FBI, which he went down of 435 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: He went down a very different path than he could 436 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: have gone down. He could have handled this very very differently, 437 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 3: and I think that he if he had done so, 438 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: then he would not have been in this particular predicament. 439 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that frigging sucks. Okay, what's he looking at here, Josh? 440 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: From what I understand, the big boy indictment that he's 441 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: potentially facing is coming next month July August, with this 442 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: seditious conspiracy stuff. So that's the one that I think 443 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: sends him to the slammer. What can this one send 444 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: him to? 445 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: Well, if you look at the charges at the very 446 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: end of the indictment, I mean, I didn't do the math, 447 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: I didn't whip out my calculator, but you know it's 448 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: thirty seven to thirty eight counts and all of them 449 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: are somewhere between one and ten years, roughly speaking, usually 450 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 3: kind of three to ten years. So it's a lot. 451 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's multiple lifetime's worth. And you know, 452 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: we'll see how he how he pleads on Tuesday, he 453 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 3: will almost as surely plead not guilty. And you know, 454 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 3: just the fact that you plead not guilty does not 455 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 3: mean that you will not ultimately reach a plead deal. 456 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: You definitely could still reach a plead deal despite an 457 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: initial not gild plea. But he potentially faces massive jail 458 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 3: time and we'll see what happens. I mean, Jesse, I look, 459 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: I'm not happy about the road that the country is 460 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: going down. This is very dark stuff. I mean, this 461 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: is very, very, very bad stuff. This country went almost 462 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty years or so without criminally prosecuting 463 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: at former president of the United States, and the fact 464 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: that only now we are choosing to do so, it's 465 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: very bad. And on the other hand, Trump really easily 466 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: could have avoided this. So there were very few winners 467 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: involved here from my perspective. And you know, the January 468 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: sixth stuff, We'll see what happens there. Don't forget there 469 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 3: is also a potentially pending indictment in Georgia pertending to 470 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: his intimates phone call or to with respected Brad Roethensberger, 471 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: the Secretary of State there. So you know, it's it's 472 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: quickly adding up. Its gained to be a lot of 473 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: lawsuits for Trump to fend off, that's for sure. 474 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking with Josh Hammer or somebody I rely on 475 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: for legal questions hosts of The Josh Hammer Show, all right, Josh, 476 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: I know this is kind of a subjective question, but 477 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how to analyze these things because, as 478 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm an idiot. How's Donald Trump's legal team? 479 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: Are they good? Well? 480 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: First, of all, Jesse, I have to tell you not 481 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: that your audience needs this. The very fast that they're 482 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: listening shows that they already understand that. But you, my friend, are, 483 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: of course, far from an idiot. But Donald Donald Trump's 484 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 3: legal team, unfortunately, I'm I am somewhat less convinced are 485 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: are far from idiots. You know, he has had some, 486 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: He has had some. He has had some lawyers, especially 487 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: after his presidency, who had been involved in some of 488 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: his kind of the builds up to the Alvin Bragg stuff, 489 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: who go on TV and doesn't necessarily give off the 490 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: greatest legal polish. Two of his lawyers literally earlier today, 491 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: in anticipation of the unfealment of the indictments, they resigned 492 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: earlier today. That was certainly a bad look for Donald Trump. Look, 493 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: here is the issue for Trump with his lawyers, and 494 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: it's kind of a broader issue for Trump when it 495 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: comes to personnel. More generally speaking, Trump has this weird 496 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: habit of you know, talking people up and buttering them 497 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: up and then kind of just throwing them under the 498 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: bus and leaving them to die on the beaches of 499 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: Normandy for no reason really, you know, basically no reason 500 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: at all, and when you do that enough times, when 501 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: you leave your people to be slaughtered on the beaches. 502 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: You know, the January sixth defendants are a very good 503 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: example of that. He hasn't really lifted a finger to 504 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: help those those terrible folks out who are being prosecuted 505 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: for all sorts of frivolous reasons. You're necessarily not going 506 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: to attract enough legal talents. You know, it's funny you 507 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: asked this Jesse without naming names. Actually, one of my 508 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: closest buddies from law school, who's an absolutely brilliant attorney, 509 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: a really super smart guy. He for a brief time, 510 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: was considering working as a personal lawyer for President Trump, 511 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: and I remember the conversation very well. I talked him 512 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: about this two two and a half years or so 513 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: in the aftermath of the presidency, and I strongly advised 514 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: him not to do so. And I think I've been vindicated, 515 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: because when you go to work for someone who doesn't 516 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: necessarily listen to your advice, you're gonna put yourself in 517 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: a whole potential host of trouble. And that obviously is 518 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: what happened as well with this poor valet driver who 519 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: has been named and is being prosecuted in this indictment 520 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: in Florida as well. 521 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: Oh my yeah, this sucks. Well, Josh, I'm glad you 522 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: made us smarter, but this sucks. Josh Hammer. It's the 523 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: Josh Hammer Show. I encourage you to listen to it 524 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: gets smarter. Thank you, my brother. We'll talk soon anytime. 525 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: Jesse, you Bett. 526 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so much more depressed than I 527 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: was like ten minutes ago. We should have never brought 528 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Josh on. Chris kidding, No, I wanted to know. I 529 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: wanted you to know. I wanted to know. Then. Sometimes 530 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: the truth hurts, right. The wife looked at me last 531 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: night and she said, it's time to shave the hair off. 532 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: That hurts me, but it's it's where we are. Don't 533 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: shake your head, either of you with your mops on 534 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: your head. I hope both of you are here one day. Okay, 535 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: Chris and Michael with their all their hair. All right, 536 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: we're moving on to We're moving back to ask dot 537 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: Jesse questions. I'm wounded now. I need a couple minutes 538 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: to recover. Talk about something, talk about something good. Have 539 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: you ever heard of the tunnel to towers? Nine to 540 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: eleven Institute. Here's what it does. 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Biden sends two 559 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: point one billion dollar security assistance package to Ukraine. I 560 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: saw some of the most heartbreaking stuff I've seen in 561 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: a while. It was this Ukrainian woman. Her town had 562 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: been flooded. She was trying to break back into her 563 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: house to get her pets that were left in there. 564 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: It's just it's freaking awful, man. This war is awful. 565 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: It's the stories I do believe on the ground, or 566 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: that it's just some horrible meat grinder of a war. 567 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: And I come back to this again and again and again. 568 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: We're enabling this if Ukraine can't win this war. And 569 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: remember we had those leaked documents from the Pentagon. We 570 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: had the leaked documents from the Pentagon showing Ukraine is 571 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: losing badly, badly. If they can't win, then how many 572 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: generations of Ukrainian men are we gonna wipe out before 573 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: we just sit down at a table and come to 574 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: some kind of an agreement. Here. War is so horrible 575 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: and sad and awful. Are we gonna kill all of them? 576 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: That's that? The answer is our military industrial complex in 577 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: the West. Are they just oh, I know they are 578 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: that monstrous? So are they just gonna wait until they're 579 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: all dead? Every Ukrainian on and then the Russians move in? 580 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Is that what we're gonna do here? Gosh, that is 581 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: breaking awful? All right, whatever, hel jesspo Eileen, as far 582 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: right as you do, I do not have representation within 583 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: my government. I cannot stand how they spend my tax 584 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: dollars and how much of it goes against my Christian faith. 585 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: I know I can't avoid paying taxes, and I don't 586 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: mind paying them towards roads and other infrastructure. But do 587 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: we have a case for no taxation without representation when 588 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: it comes to some other immoral communist expenditures? Keep on 589 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: keeping on, sir, his name is Rusty. Well, we have 590 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: a case, But what are we gonna do about it? 591 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: Of course we're not represented, And of course they take 592 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: your money and they take my money and they spend 593 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: it on turtle racing and Cambodia or all the other 594 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: stupid things they do with it. Or look, those are 595 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: the stupid things. Let's go down the list of how 596 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: many flat out evil things they spend your money on 597 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: and evil things they spend my money on. It's really, really, 598 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: really ugly the things they do. Do we have a case, Yeah, 599 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: but what are we going to do about it, but 600 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: we can try and should try to aggressively legally clean 601 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: this system up. Can it be done? I don't know. 602 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: I hope. So hope is what we have right now. 603 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: So that's that's what we're going to rely on, is hope. 604 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: How much? How much of this crap do we have 605 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: to pay now? 606 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 4: This is a president who is proud of the LGBTQI 607 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 4: people serving in our nation's military. As Secretary Austin has 608 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 4: expressed in his Pride Month statement that he put out 609 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: just last week, the Biden Highers administration will celebrate LGBTQI 610 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 4: plus service members contributions contributions during Pride with Pride across 611 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 4: federal agencies, including at the Department of Defense. 612 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm about tired of that, aren't you. I've had my 613 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: feel of it, did you hear? Mark Zuckerberg? A little 614 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: too late, too little, too little, too late here, Mark. 615 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: So misinformation I think is has been a really tricky 616 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: one because there were things that are kind of obviously 617 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: false but may not be harmful. Since, all right, are 618 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 2: you going to censor someone for just being wrong? It's 619 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, if there's no kind of harm implication of 620 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: what they're doing. I think that that's there's there's a 621 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: bunch of real kind of issues and challenges there. But 622 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: then I think that there are other places where it 623 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: is it just takes some of the stuff around COVID 624 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: earlier on in the pandemic, where there were you know, 625 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,959 Speaker 2: real health implications, but there hadn't been time to fully 626 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: vet a bunch of the scientific assumptions. And you know, unfortunately, 627 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the kind of establishment done 628 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 2: that you know, kind of waffled on a bunch of 629 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: facts and asked for a bunch of things to be 630 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 2: censored that in retrospect ended up being you know, more 631 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: debatable or true. And that stuff is really tough, right, 632 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 2: really undermines trust. 633 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: You think I think it underminded trust? Yeah, just a 634 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: little bit. Mark, all right, we still have an hour. 635 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna have fun. We're all gonna get to a 636 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: lot more asked doctor Jesse questions than I have. But 637 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: before we get to that, let's save a baby going 638 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: into the weekend. One baby. I'm not even gonna do 639 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 1: that thing where I ask you to save five twenty 640 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: eight dollars going into the weekend. How about that for 641 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: setting the pace going into the weekend. I know you're 642 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna enjoy your time with your family and friends and community, 643 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: and you should. You should soak up every single second 644 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: of it. And you should do that with the knowledge 645 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: that you gave twenty eight dollars to Preborn, Because Preborn 646 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: will take your twenty eight dollars and they don't go 647 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: blow it with Hunter Biden. They take your twenty eight 648 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: dollars and they give it to a young woman who's 649 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: about to have an abortion. They give it to her 650 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: in the form of an ultrasound. It costs them twenty 651 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: eight dollars to give her that ultrasound. She lays down, 652 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: she hears the heartbeat. And when they hear a heartbeat, 653 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: there's something from God in it. They choose life. You 654 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: hear the heartbeat, You choose life. Go to preborn dot 655 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: com slash jesse and save a life going into the weekend, 656 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: preborn dot com slash jesse. Look go look them up, 657 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: by the way, go look them up. Look at their 658 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: charity rating. Your money goes to the babies. You are 659 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: saving a life with your money. Preborn dot com slash 660 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 1: jesse sponsored by Preborn. All right, my favorite NFL team 661 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: boycotting businesses the week GOP Why this guy wants to know? 662 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: Why are Democrats successful against Trump and Republicans only have 663 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: minimal success against Biden. That's a doozy, isn't it. Maybe 664 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: we'll start out with that one next