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Speaker 1: Morning, Bill. Hey, good morning. How it's going great? How

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Speaker 1: are you? Oh good? Good? By the way, Wiggy here,

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Speaker 1: Wiggy Wiggy is playing injured today. Uh he threw out

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Speaker 1: his hip getting into a hot tub. Bill. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. Sometimes you get those situations where you know,

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Speaker 1: before before we talk football, I just want to mention

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Speaker 1: I have been roundly criticized on this program from my

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Speaker 1: fashion sense, and in particular a white T shirt that

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Speaker 1: I once wore, which I did the angle and the

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Speaker 1: photo was bad. That's why I didn't look good. You

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Speaker 1: but that means a lot of thanks. Go ahead, Bill.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask this because I watching the game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I saw Devin mccordy was wearing the green dot, and

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Speaker 1: really kind of depends on the situation. Um. You know sometimes, um,

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Speaker 1: So um, you know, if we need to, if we

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Speaker 1: certainly do that. Bill mac looked great yesterday, only the

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Speaker 1: second quarterback to throw for over three hundred yards against

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and regulation. You look at Josh McDaniels and his

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Speaker 1: I was watching them. I mean, you know, obviously you

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Speaker 1: Problem is ton of penalties. You look at your football team.

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Speaker 1: You only had four penalties in yesterday's game. You know,

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Speaker 1: certainly the ones that are preventable, let's start with those. UM,

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Speaker 1: Pre snap penalties and substitution alignment and things like that. UM,

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Speaker 1: are pre snappalties. Those are you know, those don't have

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Speaker 1: So we got a big game coming up. We can't

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Speaker 1: can't operate any differently than that, Bill. I know you

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Speaker 1: That was fifteen years, twenty years ago, whatever, it was.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bill, one week from tonight in in Buffalo. Um,

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Speaker 1: I believe so Tuesday morning. Thanks for being on this morning.

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