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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Some breaking news now on

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Speaker 1: a story that we have been following for quite some time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: police officers and ambulances are outside the home of Fotus

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Speaker 1: Dulos in Farmington, Connecticut. That's happening right now. We're told

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Speaker 1: Dulos was found unresponsive at his home. Duloci, right remember,

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Speaker 1: is charged with murdering his estranged wife, Jennifer. He was

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Speaker 1: summoned to an emergency bail hearing this morning. The bail

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Speaker 1: hearing came after an insurance company raised some questions about

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Speaker 1: his six million dollar bond. Now. That hearing was scheduled

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Speaker 1: to begin right around noon, but Dulos never showed up.

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Speaker 1: There was a distinct possibility that his bail could have

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Speaker 1: been revoked today. Dulos and his girlfriend, Michelle Traconis were

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Speaker 1: charged last year with two counts of tampering with evidence

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Speaker 1: and hindering prosecution. Jennifer Dulas's body has been missing. She's

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Speaker 1: been missing since last May and investigators have never recovered

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Speaker 1: her body. It was on the banner of every TV screen,

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Speaker 1: Potus Dulos dead. Well, he's not. He is, however, in

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Speaker 1: perilous condition being treated at a Bronx Hospital after chipping

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Speaker 1: suicide by gassing himself with a carbon monoxide in his

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Speaker 1: own garage when emergency vehicles got there. When police got

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Speaker 1: there because he was basically late for court hearing, they

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Speaker 1: looked through the window and see him slumped over the

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Speaker 1: wheel and his car break in and saved his life.

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Speaker 1: We think joining me right now. All Star panel Jason Oceans,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Chico, doctor Bethany Marshall, Karen Karen Smith, and Levipage

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Speaker 1: Climb online dot Com investigator reporter Levi. What happened So

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Speaker 1: Nancy Potus Dulos, who's a murder suspect in his estranged

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Speaker 1: wife's disappearance, tried to commit suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning.

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Speaker 1: Officers conducted a welfare check, found him unresponsive in his garage.

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Speaker 1: They thought he was dead. Thirty minutes went by and

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Speaker 1: they finally discovered a faint pulse and he is currently

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Speaker 1: on life support in New York City. And this all

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Speaker 1: happened because he had been told that there was problems

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Speaker 1: with the collateral of his bond and that it could

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Speaker 1: be revoked, and apparently that upset him that he may

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Speaker 1: have to go to jail, so he tried to commit suicide.

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Speaker 1: Here's the kicker, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psycho analyst in Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 1: You can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany. Here's the deal. He was gonna lose his

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Speaker 1: bond maybe and have to go to jail, so he

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Speaker 1: tries to kill himself. If he kills himself, we and

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Speaker 1: Jennifer's children will never know what happened to her. That's

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Speaker 1: absolutely correct. So he dies with his secrets. But Nancy,

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Speaker 1: do you remember that he chased Jennifer through the house.

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Speaker 1: She was locked in a bedroom. He was pounding on

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Speaker 1: the doors that the housekeeper reported this. This is a

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Speaker 1: very angry, aggressive man. And we know that the homicidal

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Speaker 1: instinct and the suicidal instinct lie side by side. In

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Speaker 1: other words, somebody who's likely to kill or aggress against

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Speaker 1: another person can direct all of that aggression back against

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Speaker 1: the self. So I think that same ragefulness he had

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Speaker 1: towards others and impulsivity and inability to regulate his emotions

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Speaker 1: led to the suicidality. He did not want to face

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Speaker 1: the consequences of his actions, and sadly, in trying to

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Speaker 1: take his own life and the fact that he's on

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Speaker 1: life support. You're absolutely correct. We may never ever know

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened to Jennifer if he does die, because

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Speaker 1: I think he's in a critical state, so there's no

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Speaker 1: guarantee that he's going to be able to talk after this.

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Speaker 1: Takulosten our friends at w f s B three. This

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Speaker 1: is Courtney Zeller photos. Dulos was expected in court in

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Speaker 1: Stanford around noontime today. She had seen a woman at

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Speaker 1: the home. At his home, she had left maybe about

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty. Then shortly after that, that's when we started

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Speaker 1: noticing a few local police cars coming through here and

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Speaker 1: a few officers. Then state police arrived on scene, and

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Speaker 1: that's when we saw. In between that time that there

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Speaker 1: was a man laying on the ground. They were performing

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Speaker 1: the ground and we witnessed that firsthand. But if you

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Speaker 1: are just joining us, we are hearing from multiple sources

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Speaker 1: that photos Dulos has been pronounced dead, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: straight out to Jason Oshow's New York defense attorney, but

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Speaker 1: practices all over the country. Jason in a nutshell explain

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Speaker 1: to me why his BOD most likely would have been revoked.

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Speaker 1: He just couldn't take being behind bars. Apparently. Well, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: you know, if if you're looking at you know, sort

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Speaker 1: gonna get himself, and this was his methodology of doing it. So, oh, Jason, play,

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Speaker 1: he's just stopped. His wife is dead, massive amounts of

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Speaker 1: blood found on her bra, her shirt, all over the garage,

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Speaker 1: and now he faces the prospect of potentially getting his

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Speaker 1: bell revoked. You know, it's one thing to pick on

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Speaker 1: somebody weak or less cunning than you, But then when

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Speaker 1: the tables are turned. Bobby Chico, former special asent FBI,

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Speaker 1: start our Facebook watched series Curse of Aqacre. What do

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Speaker 1: you think. Well, I've come across guys like this before,

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Speaker 1: these supreme narcissists who just can't stand to lose control

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Speaker 1: and they have to dominate and bully everybody in their lives,

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Speaker 1: and we still the supreme bullying. Ultimately that probably ended

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Speaker 1: in his wife's death at his hands, and he just

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Speaker 1: can't stand to be under the control of anybody else.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't going to go to jail where someone was

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Speaker 1: going to tell him when to go to sleep, when

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Speaker 1: I think that this guy is one of those bullies

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Speaker 1: that's so so narcissistic that he looked at a life

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Speaker 1: he could not he could not picture himself in that life,

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Speaker 1: and that narcissistic tendency is so powerful within them it's

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Speaker 1: actually worth taking his own life rather than to submit

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Speaker 1: to that kind of life. Yeah, well, that's what happens

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Speaker 1: when you murder your wife. Apes alleged late murder your wife.

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Speaker 1: Karen Smith joining me from LA Forensics expert lecturer University

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Speaker 1: Florida and host of Shattered Souls podcast. Karen, what can

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Speaker 1: we learn now? And this absolutely will come in front

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Speaker 1: of a jury if it ever goes to trial. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: it will if he's able to stand trial. At this point,

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Speaker 1: you know he's in critical condition from carbon monoxide poisoning Nancy.

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Speaker 1: That will kill you in minutes. The fact that the

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Speaker 1: paramedics and rescue got there so quickly is yes, it's

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Speaker 1: a good thing. Hopefully he can recover from this. But

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Speaker 1: blood two hundred times more efficiently than oxygen does. That

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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, psychoalist out of Beverly Hills. You can find

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Speaker 1: her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. What will this

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Speaker 1: mean for the children? As photos Dulos is never tried

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Speaker 1: we'll never know what happened to Jennifer, and they won't

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Speaker 1: have a dad as well, Nancy. Even if he was

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Speaker 1: They still need their fathers. So they've had the death

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Speaker 1: These two children are orphans. Later on, they'll want to

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Speaker 1: know what happened, but right now they just need her dad,

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Speaker 1: a live, comforting present able to hold them. And that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest tragedy is that they will not have him

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Speaker 1: never know the truth of what happened. We know Dulos

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Speaker 1: in the Kobe Medical Center. They worked on him for

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Speaker 1: thirty straight minutes before he was airlifted. We wait as

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Speaker 1: justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime story, signing off Goodbye friend,