WEBVTT - 94: The Lawnmower Women 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:11.440 Welcome Tonightcall a production of My Heart Radio. It's ten 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:18.439 thirty two pm in cyberspace and you're listening tonight. Call 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.919 Hello everyone, and welcome tonight call a show for your 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.159 strange days and lonely nights. I am Molly Lambert and 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:49.279 with me are Emily Ashida and Tess Lynch. Hello. We're 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.279 going to start off with the question that's been on 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:56.160 everyone's mind post by radio and friend Justine. What is 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.200 Swedish death cleaning? Have you guys ever heard of Swedish 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.800 death cleaning? Finitely? Really? Yeah, it's like the most metal 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.480 kind of clean. No. I I had heard about it 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.399 because it's like I feel like people were talking about it, 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.839 like around the time that Marie Condo was was blowing 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:15.959 up to similar via Justine, Swedish death cleaning is basically 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.440 like clean your house like you are about to die, 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.959 because you are get all your documents in one place 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.000 and throw out all your trinkets and crap. I realized 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.480 I've been doing this my whole life. I leave my 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:32.480 house each morning assuming I'll never make it back. Thank you, Justine. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.640 So there was an article on BuzzFeed about this for 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.959 a while. I oh, there's a book written by a 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.200 Swedish woman who says that she is between eighty and 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.120 a hundred years old, but does not get more specific 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:48.560 than that. Umar to Magnussen, there you go. I had 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.880 not written that down. So I guess the word for 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:57.200 death cleaning in Swedish is those saddening. Oh yeah yeah. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.200 And but I thought the most interesting. I mean, first 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.600 of all, this is a great idea, and I am 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.480 going to go home and do it, although I hope 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.640 I don't die. Um. But one of the things I 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.720 thought was really great about it was that she suggests 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.480 in the book that you make a throwaway box, which 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.959 is stuff that is sentimental to you but would not 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:21.520 have any meaning for other people. Stuff that's all my stuff. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.320 I have a mailbox of just like printed out old 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:29.160 emails from like or something. But I was like, this 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.760 is a brilliant idea because you're basically giving your surviving 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.760 family members or whomever permission to look at it. And 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.680 then Marie Condo would be like, bye, I'm not going 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.760 to keep this. So um. I have a friend who 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:49.000 recently found her deceased family members diaries, and she was like, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.200 it's so hard because if he didn't want anyone to 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.000 read his diaries, he would have destroyed them, right, But 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.520 then I'm holding the diary and I'm like, do I 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.480 open the diary and read the diary? Would be so 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.920 mad if someone read my diary. So I guess the 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.880 idea with Swedish death cleaning is to think ask yourself 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.799 those questions of like do I want someone to read 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.040 my diary? And if you do, you put it in 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.000 the throwaway box, and if you don't, you destroy it. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.560 That's super smart. That's what are you gonna do with 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:24.320 your diaries? Exactly where they are? I I have been 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.760 thinking about it since I read this thing from my friend. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.480 I don't know. I definitely wouldn't want anyone to read them, 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.960 but I also feel like I don't want to throw 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.360 them away until I'm like very close to death, but 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:39.080 I won't know probably like when I'm going to die. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.560 So I feel like this is why historically have been 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.600 it's been really hard to motivate to keep a diary 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.800 for this exact reason, because I'm like, what do I 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.320 do with it? It's really I mean, I kept a 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:54.160 diary from when I was seven until right around the 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.640 time I got married, and so I have like all 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.640 the volumes of my and they're all organized by year 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.200 and were like thing to have, though I don't like 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:04.440 I wouldn't know what to do with it. But at 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.800 the same time, it's like cool for yourself to be 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.000 able to go back if there a signal you can 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.480 give that's like burn the diaries. Now, I think I 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.240 have to put them in a safe where I can 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.040 like press a button and it just explodes inside. I mean, 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:19.839 put them in a bear suit. Put them in a 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.800 bear suit midsummer them. Um. The one good thing about 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.080 having a diary, though, is then if you have kids, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.279 going back and reading my diet the first volume of 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.599 my diary from when I was my son's age, is 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:35.159 so interesting because it's all just like these angry missives 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.840 about how pissed I am at my parents, and I 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:42.359 was like, whoa Like I just hated them, like at times, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:43.839 I mean the times when I wrote in my diary 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.360 it was always hating someone. Also, another thing about being 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.200 an only child, you don't have a sibling who you 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.600 can just exactly your complaints about mom and dad. That's all. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.520 You got to have a sibling so you can be like, man, 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.600 mom and Dad were being so annoying today and like 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:02.200 I was also there read Let's Union. Actually I've never 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.080 kept a diary, but my brother has like amazing recall 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.159 of everything that ever happened to us as children, who'll like, 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.440 tell me if I was at a story he's telling. 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:11.960 I'll be like, I don't think I was there. He'll 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:13.240 be like, yes, you where, you did this in this 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.200 and you ate this. It's also my worst nightmare. I mean, 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.560 this sounds great, but also I would hate that. I 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.560 want to be able to like bleach my brain of 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:25.320 certain things. I yeah, the whole the Swedish death cleanything. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.400 I mean some of it. I think that some of 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.400 it is sort of generational where it feels I mean 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.880 not just like oh I'm thinking about death like in 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.080 that way, but that like the amount of stuff you've 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.119 amassed and the quality of that stuff, Like like most 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.360 of the stuff that would end up in my box 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.120 is just stuff that represents the majority of my possessions, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.200 because I am not yet of the age where I 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.839 own very much furniture or anything at all. Like it's 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.600 all just like junk, like ticket stubs and bracelets from things, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.200 and like there's somehow still so much of it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.720 it's somehow becomes just as burden. Some is like a credenza. Yeah, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.760 whenever I move, I'm like, at least I don't have 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.040 a lot of stuff, and then I'm like, I have 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:10.479 so much stuff. It's dumb, little stuff that packs very easily, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.359 and yet it's impossible to go through anytime you have 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.640 to move. It's yeah, I think we're all trying not 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.720 to buy clothes right now. Yeah, it's I don't want 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.320 to accumulate clothes either. I find that, Like, um my 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.800 mom was in town and she ended up giving me 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.440 some clothes and they were I ended up liking them 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:28.839 a lot when I put them on, but I was 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.200 kind of looking at them being like, if I had 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:36.080 fifty less clothes, then laundry would be so much more simple. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.239 I would be able to like fold everything the right way. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.200 But I have such a hard time getting rid of 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.440 especially clothes, that then when new stuff comes in, I'm 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.960 just like, I think there's also this minimalist fantasy that 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.080 people have of like if I only had five things 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.920 and that's all I needed, But it's actually very hard 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.720 to live that way. I have that with almost everything 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.160 except for clothes and sort of a maximalist when it 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.400 comes to clothes, and I'm very much like, oh, I 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.039 can't let go of this. I'll put it in a 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.599 box and then twenty years I'll love it. Like I 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.600 have that with with clothes more than I have with 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.400 other thing. I'm pretty unsentimental about almost everything else. But yeah, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.960 I should do some Swedish death cleaning. Now I should 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.120 all do it. Yeah, it's a real our listener Oscar, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.520 who's our Sweden expert, should tell us if Swedish death 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.960 cleaning is like a thing Swedish people actually do or 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:29.320 this is like marketing for American Further, it's like it's 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.480 like Swedish people in Japanese people. Um, both get like 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.760 the oh, it wouldn't it be wonderful to be so 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.200 clean in Japanese. That's why I like, there's a book 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:43.280 about tiny apartments and it's like one of the classic 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.240 like coffee books or or um like I don't know, 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.480 little art books. And it's just like these are not 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:53.240 the pristine Japanese apartments that I feel like our like 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.680 New York apartments. It's the idea of like you keep 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.680 all yourself in a tiny space because you have you 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.200 can just walk outside into a city. Yeah, you still again, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.960 like however much room there is, it feels like you 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.520 take up oh yeah, and then you have a murphy 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.000 bed probably, which then you have to like make every 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.440 day and then like fast to the wall. I mean 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.560 I would just never do it, Like, let's be real, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.040 I would never do it. Would you guys ever live 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:21.360 in a tiny house? I think we've discussed this before. No, 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:26.840 I no, no, God, I'd have to have a huge, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.520 like I don't know, psychic break or something in order 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.360 to live in a tiny house. I don't know how 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.719 people with kids live in a tiny house. And I've 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.559 I've read all of these profiles of people who do, 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.120 and it just sounds so difficult. Even people who are 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:43.240 doing it really successfully have to at some point acknowledge 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.280 the strain it places on your marriage and your kids 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.839 a lot. I mean, it's just you're acknowledging like this 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.760 isn't great most of the time. Well, we're going to 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.920 take an ad break real quick, and when we come back, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:15.960 we're going to talk about a very haunted doll. Welcome back. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.880 We have a quick item that we felt was very nightcall. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.600 This comes from a local Houston News site, and they 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.080 posted a saga last week about a talking Elsa doll 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.240 from the movie Frozen that is one of the most 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.959 compelling cases for a doll hunting that I've ever read. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.040 Um This doll, originally when it was bought by the 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.719 family I think six years ago, spoke some phrases from 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.760 Frozen in English only, and it's sang let it go 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.720 when a button on its necklace was pushed, and that 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.880 is fine. Then after two years it became bilingual and 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.920 it started being able to speak Spanish and English and 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:56.120 sing in both languages, and that that was all that. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.840 In a way, that's an improvement, So that's great. Uh. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.199 But okay, by the way, this whole time, the batteries 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.640 in the stall were never changed. And I can speak 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.600 from experience that children's toys without a battery change start 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.199 exhibiting very strange behavior. But this doesn't explain the next thing. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.880 So no change in batteries. The doll then started speaking 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.760 or singing even when she was turned off. So the 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.600 family went in saying they were like, we need this 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.320 thing out of there. They threw it away. Later, I 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.040 think a couple of weeks later, it appeared in a 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.760 bench in their living room and they were so freaked 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.880 out they double bagged it and put it at the 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.640 bottom of the trash can because they were like, the 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.840 only explanation is that their kids had gone to the 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.720 trash and taken else out and put her in the bench. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.880 So they put her at the bottom of the trash 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.160 can then put a bunch of trash on top of her. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:51.520 At that point, she appeared outside their house and their 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:56.320 daughter was like, I found Elsa. She came. So they 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.680 lost their mind and they've been posting about this on 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.679 social media and eventually they had to send the doll 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.880 to a family friend in Minnesota who had agreed to 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.800 take her in, and he was like, if she starts 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.040 acting scary and demonic, I'm gonna I'm gonna weld her 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.079 to a metal pipe and bury her in the woods. 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.680 And now that's where we are at present day. She's 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.920 duct taped to their car. Great, because I feel like 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.199 we're really getting back to our haunted doll roots. Yet exactly, 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.400 I was like, this is some original night called doll magic. 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.920 Let's do it. I mean it speak. The speaking in 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.400 Spanish just feels like they have like one ship that 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.320 they make for the doll, and it has the Spanish 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.240 language version on it too, and it's just a matter 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.480 of what it was. Two years later, there were two 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.160 years there was like an Adbusters thing where people would 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.080 swap the chips from g I Joe's and talking Barbie 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.480 because Barbie said things like I hate math, and so 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.920 there were people who were like swap them, would say that. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.800 Barbie would be like, let's go Joe, Let's go to war. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:02.000 This doll feels like it a sentient yeah, I mean, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.760 and the moving of the doll like so when you 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:09.080 look at the doll too, it's not a particularly animated doll. Like, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.000 it's not a it's not a high tech doll. It's 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.560 got a big head, it's got it's one of the 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.600 huge it's like has a kind of brats vibe to it. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.400 So it it's not a walking doll. I mean, we've 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.560 all seen the dolls where it's feet. It's conceivable they 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.800 might walk. I guess this doll was definitely like flew 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.640 through the air powered by spirits. There's no question she 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:34.719 did not move by any physical means that we can understand. Right, 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:44.720 hang on, oh that's her speaking in Spanish. Test your 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.439 kids have any talking dolls that scare you. Yes, okay, well, 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.360 so yes, we have Louvera Vella, who is a very 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:56.079 i wouldn't say very realistic, but definitely like approaching Uncanny Valley. Um. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:13:00.199 She is a newborn baby that kind of like she's 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.040 always kind of sleepy, but she does cry and giggle 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.880 and my daughter really enjoys her. But then also my 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.559 daughter wanted a baby live. Oh I'm so scared of 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.280 baby alive. Well, this baby Alive is the world's most 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.280 basic and archaic baby. That's the scary one where it 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.560 slurps the cherries up. This is the one that's even 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.480 more basic than that, where it's a doll, hollow doll 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.280 with a tube that goes from mouth to butt, and 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.760 it doesn't it's not animated at all. It has no 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.079 batteries or anything that's like the original, like the of 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.920 a baby doll. Okay, I had the baby alive that 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.400 chewed the cherries and and it seemed to take a 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.160 long time for her to digest, which is very exciting. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.480 Like a lot of suspense. This one, it's just like 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.679 my daughter had. You know, she comes with a little 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.080 toilet and she would just sit her on the toilet 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.720 and forced feed her. All this pair just come right out. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.440 She'd be like, look, she's being again, She's being again, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.800 she's through see again. This has to stop. But we 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:07.760 had some battery operated things, uh, and in particular like 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.240 this puzzle that had light sensors and little animals on 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.079 it where when you remove the animal, it made the 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:17.280 animal noise. But for some reason, the pieces weren't flush, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:18.839 like I guess it had been used too much, so 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:20.920 they were kind of loose. So we stored it in 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.920 the basement and for a long time, like I couldn't 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.680 figure out what was happening because every so often the 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.640 light would shift in there, I guess, and you'd hear 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:33.480 like I was like, what is down there? And it 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.040 was the cursed puzzle. But they get glitchy when their 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.240 batteries go, the battery operated ones. So we also had 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.800 a horrible walker type of thing where it would be 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.720 like ring alang, the animals sang, and she would just 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:53.880 go anytime a day turned off, for sure, Wow, let's 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.600 talk about something else really scary, I was gonna say, 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.720 speaking of things becoming more and more sentient, Yeah, by degrees, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.840 we watched the lawnmower Man for our unnerving c g 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:11.440 I January series following Cats and the Abyss. I unfortunately 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.160 was not able to watch it. So I'm just going 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.120 to ask you, guys questions about lawnmower Man. I've been 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.480 wanting to see this movie forever. It's a great movie 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.760 to ask questions about. So I Well, the one thing 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.120 I know about lawnmower Man is is it as one 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.240 of the like, um, one of the great examples of 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.480 eighties and nineties adaptations of things that have nothing to 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.680 do with the source material. Yes, have you guys read 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.800 the story. I haven't read it, but we both read 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.480 the synopsis. Have you read it? Mom, I know what 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.240 the story is about, which is incredible. Well, let's just 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:48.120 say so lawnmower Man came out in this was originally 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.440 they were going to market it as Stephen King's The 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.080 lawnmower Man, but King was like, I will sue you 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.160 into oblivion. Um. The plot of Stephen King's seventy five 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:01.120 short story The lawnmower Man is about out this guy 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.600 who runs like a gardening center and he or I 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:09.960 guess like, he hires a serviceman who the reading. It's 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:14.320 just like, okay, he arrives with a lawnmower that mows 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.680 the lawn by itself, and then the gardener guy crawls 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:22.000 around naked behind the mower eating grass. Oh, I thought 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:23.720 it was that he ate the grass and that's how 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.400 he mowed like he was the lawnmower. I think it's 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:30.440 kind of both. It's both somehow, I think he's eating 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.120 the moon. I have to read like the stuff that's 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.400 left behind, like they don't bag it. Maybe it's going 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.480 really fast because machine and human are working as one. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:45.480 Um the serviceman himself is actually a sadder. Is that 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.640 how you pronounce it? Like a sad sader? Is a 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.240 sader or a sadder? Okay, yeah, I think it's a 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.240 sad pan Pan the goat god pan Ya one half 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.240 goat and the other half man Um when part get 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.840 so when like the Parkcats the guy who owns the 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.880 landscaping service, when Parkat tries to call the police, the 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.280 mower and its owner ritually kill him as a sacrifice 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.880 to Pan. Then you have the lawnmower movie, so which 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.440 has none of this. Studio that made the lamb arm 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.480 and the movie owned the rights to the title The 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.040 lawnmower Man and rather than adapt the story. I assume 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.840 they also owned the rights to the story. But it's 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.840 not maybe enough to fill out a whole movie. Well, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.480 it sounds like it's just a what if a lawnmower 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.560 was a man? That's not an exactly a three, I 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:41.040 mean a little bit what the lawnmower Man is also about. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:45.880 The Lammer Man is based on the script originally called 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:50.520 Cyber God, and it uses a lot of Stephen King tropes. Basically, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:59.800 it's about a scientist played by Pierce Brosnan wearing hoop earrings. Earrings, yeah, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:04.280 he um is doing experiments, cutting edge experiments that are 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.280 about cyberspace and about like hooking a human brain up 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.160 to well, first a monkey brain. He's Dr Laurence Angelo. 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.720 I have to say this is this is an amazing 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.000 performance by Pierce Brosn and in that I cannot decide 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.639 if it's good or bad, or if he's laughing at 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.600 himself or taking himself completely serious. But he's good because 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.440 everyone's taking it seriously. Like it is a little campy, 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.600 because it's like it's a lot camp it's a fake 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.680 Stephen King, but it's also like legitimately kind of scary 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.680 in parts. No, you didn't think so. I mean it's disturbing, 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:41.080 it's a very problematic, it's and dated, it's unving. So 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.440 have you guys ever read Flowers for Algernon? Yes, okay, 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:48.760 it's Flowers for Algernon, but with the Internet. So it's 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.680 like a guy who is developed mentally disabled, who people 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:57.119 hire to mow lawns, who is kept by an evil 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.720 priest in a little shed. Sure, and the priest trigger warning, 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.159 the priest has molested this man from the time that 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.400 he received him when he was five years old, which 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.040 we only learned later in the movie. So that's a 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.639 trigger warning and a spoiler alert all rolled into one. Um. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.440 But yeah, a lot of the people in the community 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.840 are very nice to this man. Um played by Jeff 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:22.919 Ay and his character's name is Job Smith, which seems unsubtle, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:28.960 to say the least. Subt It has some carry vibes 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:33.320 at times. UM in terms of the evil priest kind 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:38.560 of trying to keep Job in a childlike and submissive state. 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.680 It's a lot of like Stephen King Greatest Hits tropes 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.800 um blended together. What did the priest have to do 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.960 with anything? It's just that he's this He's like a 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.600 guy in a terrible situation who nobody cares about, even 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.040 the person who's supposed to care about him, which is 0:19:56.080 --> 0:20:00.240 why he's the perfect human subject for Pierce Brosnan, who's 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:04.560 been looking for a human to jack into the proto matrix. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.439 And the way that they originally cross paths is that 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.160 the monkey cyborg is that his name again, cry Oborg 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.959 something like that he has somehow gone into escaped and 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.639 he's entered into Job's shack. So Pierce Brosen and the 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.679 other scientists show up to get the monkey back, and 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.280 then they end up like shooting the monkey because the 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.159 monkey becomes super violent. It's wearing a helmet. Also, the 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:32.520 monkey becomes smarter and smarter and becomes like more smarter 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:36.199 than any human and then becomes like unstoppably violent, like 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:40.440 tearing people's heads off. Well, because what we discover later 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.320 is that Pierce Brosen is kind of under the impression 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.000 that they are trying to find ways to like cure 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:51.080 Alzheimer's patients or help intellectually disabled people become like, you know, 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:55.040 really really super smart. And then the people above Pierce 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.560 Brosnan who are funding his research is the breaking bad 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.399 guys one of them. Yeah, play the brother. They're like, no, 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.639 the best use of this technology is to get people 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.600 to become killing machines so we can send them to war. 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:10.920 And that's what happened to the monkey. Very Stephen King. 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.680 We're making super soldiers. That's what we really Stephen King 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.879 would have done it so much better, needless to say, So, 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.679 what's being jacked into what? At this point, the monkey 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:21.960 is being jacked into the human brain or no, No, 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.840 there's never a monkey human crossover. The monkey was the 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.480 first test subject. When they kill the monkey, Pierce bros 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.080 And is like, I've worked so hard on that monkey. 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.080 And then he's kind of like, huh, what's your deal job, Oh, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.280 you're in a bad situation. Sure, hooked up to a computer. 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.840 It's just like he's jacked into the web. Yeah, okay. 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.880 But when they're jacked into the web, you see representations 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.120 of what that looks and feels like. And they're in 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:53.399 those things, those like spinning around things that are in 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:57.080 a lot of sid Have you ever been in one 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:00.680 of those? I have? I have in Seattle? Did you adult? Yes? 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.200 It was like a lifelong goal of mine to go 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:05.320 into that, like my entire childhood, and then when I 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.280 finally did, I was like, what else can I do 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.400 in life? Is the best thing? I was very nauseous. 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:15.800 Yeah that's super Yeah. Um yeah. Not only does this 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:20.120 make you dizzy, it also plunges you into late eighties 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.560 early nineties c g I landscape. It looks like Miami 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:25.879 Vice kind of. I mean it just has the like 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:30.800 Pasteli kind of neon over the grid that's dark and 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.679 you're like flying through. Yeah. It's great because it is 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.960 sort of like those early computer animation things where it's 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.840 just truly trying to be a psychedelic as humanly possible, 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:46.119 not trying to portray anything realistically, just like yeah, what 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.560 if you could put a computer on drugs? What would 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.480 it see? Yeah? Yeah, Well it's like really taking advantage 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.440