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Now signed up with promo code Colin so 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: they know we sent you. What is going on, everybody, 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, This is a three and out podcast. Usually 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: we do the Go Low in the middle of the week, 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: but with football heating up and honestly the golf stuff 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: the FedEx playoffs are starting, there is some pretty good 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: value from a betting standpoint. Fagala, Davis Riley, some guys 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: with long odds now that just the top one is happening. 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: But like, I'll probably do a golf podcast in a 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks when they go into the tour championship. 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Now one, I guess some news broke Today Live. The 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: some players that wanted to play in the FedEx they 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: got denied. Cam Smith, who just won the open, beat 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: Rory I mean basically admitted without admitting, he's gone. Like 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: so he's gone. I mean that's a pretty big deal. 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to dive into the legalities of 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: the live. It's kind of exhausting. But from a gambling standpoint, 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: Davis Riley Thagala jump on that. But there's a lot 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: going on in the football world. Uh, trade requests, the 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: Patriots struggles, McVeigh, the Coaches Poll came out in college football, 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: and uh just kind of wanted to keep a little 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: football intent. Rowland now that you know we were going 32 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those d 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: M s as well if you listen on Collins Feed, 34 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: subscribe separately to the three and out feed, and uh, 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: other than that, again, no golf podcast is week, probably 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: will be one next week because none of these guys 37 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: that are quote unquote defecting are gonna do it till 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: after the cash is paid, and that's still a couple 39 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: of weeks away. It's gonna be ironic, though, when Cam 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: Smith wins fifteen million dollars, Jamnahan handsome fifteen million dollars, 41 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: and the next week he's like, I'm going with my 42 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: buddy azzizzi Azzi. Greg Norman, say you get ready for 43 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: that because that is a strong possibility of happening. I 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: had a lot of people come into my d M 45 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: s and say, well, you just said you're out on 46 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. You act like Matt Patricia wasn't part of 47 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: the Patriot teams that had a lot of success. Yes, 48 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: he was as a deep ments of coach. He was 49 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. So a lot of head coaches go 50 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: on to fail and come back and have success, either 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: as coordinators or assistants. The reason that I question what 52 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots are doing is that Matt Patricia now Belichick 53 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: is Cloak and Daggers. So I don't know for sure, 54 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: but I think we It sure feels like it's pointed 55 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: that way is going to be the offensive coordinator. We 56 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: all have to agree, whether you're a Patriot fan, whether 57 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: you're just a football fan. That is insane, that is 58 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: beyond nuts. I'm recording this on Tuesday afternoon. I went 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: to the forty Niners practice, and when you're at the 60 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: forty Niners practice, just like if I went to any 61 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: other training camp beside the Patriots, they have position coaches everywhere. 62 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Chris Kassurik, many consider the best defensive line coach in 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: the league is a lifetime defensive line coach, Anthony Lynn. 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: What's he coaching? I don't know? Running backs? What was 65 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn? His entire career played a running back? Then 66 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: he coach running backs? What's Kyle Shannon doing calling offensive plays? Why? 67 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: What's Kyle Shanahan an offensive coordinator? What's Damiko Ryan's doing? Well? 68 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Play linebacker, became a linebacker coach. Now he's coordinating the defense. 69 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: If I had gone to practice and you're like, what's 70 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan do it? You know he's coaching the offensive 71 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: line by be like, Kyle Shannan lost his mind? Well, 72 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: what are we doing? Why would you do that? So 73 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: when these reports are coming out every single day that 74 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots offense looks terrible, how can any of us 75 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: shake her heads? Joe Judge was the head coach for 76 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: the New York Giants for two seasons. Their offense was 77 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: a joke. He could never call the offensive place. He 78 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: had Jason Garrett do it. That he had Freddy Kitchens 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: do it. So if he was some offensive mastermind and 80 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: not just a special teams guy, why wouldn't he take 81 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: over the offense? Say what you want? And I'm recording 82 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: this before Hard Knocks Last year, Dan Campbell demoted Anthony Lynn. 83 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: You know what Dan Campbell did as a tight end guy, 84 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: as an offensive guy, he took over the play calling. 85 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Now you can say he's good or not. You know 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: that's for only history will decide that over time. But 87 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: he took over the play calling. Joe Judge never did. 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Why he couldn't. And now you're depending on two guys 89 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: whose expertise one is defense and the others has been 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: special teams to now help Mac Jones and this offense operate. 91 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: And I saw people on social media like we gotta 92 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: get Dante Scarnikia back, Like yeah, that Dante Scarneckia could 93 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: not help Joe Judge, but most specifically Matt Patricia, because 94 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: what Matt Patricia is doing is something that he has 95 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: not equipped to do. I don't care how smart Bill 96 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Belichick is, and I think we'd all agree he's pretty smart. 97 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is probably one of the only coaches in 98 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: NFL history who could coach every single position and do 99 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: it at the highest of high levels, and that includes kicker, punter, 100 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: and long snapper, from the center to the safety, to 101 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: the wide receiver to the quarterback. Can coach at all 102 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: other guys can't Matt. In what world does does anyone, 103 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: especially Bill Belichick, believe that Matt Patricia is equipped to 104 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: coordinate the offense and coach the offensive line. The offensive 105 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: line is a position in the league, like defensive line, 106 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: that the coordinators, all coordinators in the NFL makes seven figures, 107 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: all the offensive coordinators and all the defensive coordinators. Now, 108 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: obviously some of those guys are head coaches, but every 109 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator that is not the head coach makes over 110 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: a million dollars, and a ton of them make two 111 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: and three million dollars. That position pays the premium, just 112 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: like offensive coordinators who are not the head coach and 113 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: they call the place. Every single one of them make 114 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: a million plus many one point five two million dollars. 115 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: It's a highly compensated position. Why because when you're good 116 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: at it or just one just the ability to do 117 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: it pays a lot because it's very, very difficult. And 118 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: then when you're good at it. It you know you 119 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: don't want to lose that position, so you pay them 120 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: to try not lose it. It's why all these offensive 121 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: line coaches are all making a ton of money, same 122 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: with the top defensive line coaches. Well, it's I would 123 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: imagine if you went to every single bio of the offense, 124 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: specifically the offensive line, if you went to the Eagles 125 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, you just bounce around the league. Most 126 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: offensive line coaches have coached offensive line, I don't know 127 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: the majority of their career. It is a very very 128 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: difficult thing to do. It's why the top flight offensive 129 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: line coaches, just like the top flight defensive line coaches, 130 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: but more specifically, the offensive line coaches always separate. And 131 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: the thing that we can just transfer Matt Patricia because 132 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: he knows Dante's Karnecki and Bill Belichick's around is nuts 133 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: and clearly at practice they're getting donin aid. And you 134 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: can say, well, the defense is always ahead of the offense. 135 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: I think it falls on Matt Patricia and I think 136 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: it falls on one of the most I think it's 137 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: the craziest thing Bill Belichick's ever done in his coaching 138 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: career with the Patriots, making this move uh. And I 139 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: understand he doesn't like going outside his little bubble of 140 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: Patriot minions, but this is uh. I'm not saying if 141 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: they had a terrible season, he would deserve to get fired, 142 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: but maybe craft Is just would be over him because 143 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: this is the type move listen. Andy Reid is one 144 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: of the best coaches in the league history. Made one 145 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Castillo his defensive coordinator and it backfired and ultimately Now, 146 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: obviously Belichick has more equity with six Super Bowl rings, 147 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: but he's much angrier. 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We've seen a couple trade requests. Not 191 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: all trade requests or hold ins are created equal. Right 192 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: when Deebo Samuel held in, when T J. Watt held in, 193 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: you see it around the league. I was like, Yeah, 194 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be compensated. And then you see 195 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: Kareem hunt who a cream not so long ago. Pretty 196 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: sure if a viral video went of you kicking a 197 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: chick and you were cut from I don't know the 198 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: best team in the league. So now that your career 199 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: is back on track, and I understand that your position, 200 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote you're underpaid. But in what world 201 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: do you think that Cleveland Browns are gonna do anything 202 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: about it. They're not gonna pay you, and it makes 203 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: no business sense for them to pay him. And I 204 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: loved it when I read that, not only do they 205 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: not plan on paying him, if he doesn't practice, we're 206 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: gonna start finding him. You don't get to hold in 207 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: and we treat you like t J. Watt or Deebo Samuel. 208 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: That ain't how it working here, especially with all the 209 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: ship we're taking with Deshann Watson rightfully, So you don't 210 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: get to just sit there and watch and think you're 211 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna get money that you're not gonna get from us 212 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: and not get fined. So the Cleveland Browns, which let's 213 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: face it, are a ship show, I give I I 214 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: commend them on that. I said when when Ryan Poles, 215 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: who I have always heard good things about, at his 216 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: introductory press conference, said that we are going to the 217 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: North is gonna come through Chicago again. I thought was 218 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: one of the most moronic and dumbest things I've seen 219 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: in a press conference, especially from a young higher GM 220 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: or coach, in a long long time, because I I'm 221 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: all for being confident, I'm all for having some role, 222 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: even cockiness, but to say something like that, uh, in 223 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: a division where you are literally he said it last year. 224 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I own you by I don't know. One of the 225 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: best players in the history of the league is listen. 226 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: He's he could retire, I guess after this year in 227 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: two years, but he could easily keep playing for a while. 228 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: And as long as he's playing, he's gonna continue to 229 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: kick your ass. Like I would, just keep my mouth 230 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: shut as I built this thing, and I've been on 231 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: record and I feel pretty good about this. I think 232 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: the Bears are gonna bears with the Giants, but I 233 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: think the Giants are kind of trying to suck. I 234 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: think the Bears are gonna try to be competitive and 235 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna suck. They're gonna be awful. Now, it's not 236 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: all Uberfluce or Ryan Poll's fault. They inherited a team. 237 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: Ryan pace is one of the worst gms we've seen 238 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: since like Griggson, I mean, his offensive line is collegiate level. 239 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: That Justin Field's gonna running for his life. That they're 240 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna be really, really bad. So I'm not putting the 241 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: team situation necessarily all on the new head coach in 242 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: the GM, but when you start kind of pumping your 243 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: chest and saying some of those things like you do, 244 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: put a little bit of target on your back, and 245 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna be bad. Now, one of the bright spots 246 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: on the roster, like Justin Fields in theory is a 247 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: bright spot, but let's face it, like he has a 248 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: long way to go before we can go. You know, 249 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: this guy is a really good player. And I'm someone 250 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: who loved Justin Fields coming out. The size, the speed, 251 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: just the raw talent. I would always lean with talent 252 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: like that. Now at quarterback, it's about so much more 253 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: than talent, intangibles, uh, quarterback intellect, just the instincts of 254 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: the position the guys like Mahomes and Russell Wilson have. 255 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Like we'll see if at the pro level Fields has it. 256 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: But what I saw at Ohio State, I would have 257 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: been all for it. But he hasn't proven much. It's 258 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: not all of his fault inherited terrible team. But the 259 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: best player on their team once they got rid of 260 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: clear Mack was ro Kuan Smith. Ro Kuan Smith was 261 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: an elite college player who was then drafting the top 262 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: ten and has lived up to the building. And in 263 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: his like seven paragraph notepad tweet Instagram, which you know 264 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: might be a little too long, just say a couple 265 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: of lines and I love it. I give him credit. 266 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: He mentioned but Kiss, he mentioned her, Lacker, he met, 267 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: he mentioned Briggs, He mentioned some of the people have 268 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: a soft spot in Chicago for defense, that he's demanding 269 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: a trade, and like this, they gotta figure this out. 270 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: They just gotta get on the same page as the 271 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: one bright spot. Because here's the problem, because if you 272 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: were truly just kind of starting over, you would trade 273 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: a guy like this and just completely tear it down 274 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: to the skids. The problem is, for as good as 275 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: he is, Like, is anyone trading a first round pick 276 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: for a linebacker? Probably not, though you could argue that 277 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: if you were a team very close the Denver Broncos 278 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: don't have any picks. But let's say, for example, like 279 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: would they trade a first round pick for ro Quan Smith. 280 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: You know, would the Chargers. I'm just throwing out teams 281 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: like that might feel they're a player away. You could 282 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: make the argument, though I don't think any team would 283 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: because part of this is he wants a new contract. 284 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: But like, part of being a good GM and a 285 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: good head coach is massaging these relationships and not getting 286 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: in these knockdown, drag out situations and when your team 287 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be bad, which means you're gonna just get 288 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: a lot of negative publicity. Because here's the thing, Like, 289 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: I think everyone knows the Giants are gonna be bad, 290 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: and they've kind of said it without saying it. But 291 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: when you go, let's just hypothetically say they win four games, 292 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: that means they go four and thirteen. That is a 293 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: long season. That's a lot of fans booing. That's a 294 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of negative articles, that's a lot of irrelevancy, and 295 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: that's a lot of apathy. And when that actually happens, 296 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: it sucks. Now, if you get right the draft because 297 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: of it, people look back and go thank God for 298 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: that season, But while you're living in it, it sucks. 299 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: I talked about it on yesterday's podcast. If you don't 300 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: learn from your fail years, you're wasting uh just ample 301 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: opportunities to parlay those in the successful things. But while 302 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: you're going through failures, it doesn't make it any easier. 303 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't. It's not fun, right, It's it's 304 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: not fun as a player to get cut. It's not fun, 305 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: as you know, someone in any business, to get fired, right, 306 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: it's it's not fun. It's not fun as a business 307 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: owner to go bankrupt. But when those things happen, if 308 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: you don't, you know, use those to your benefit big picture, 309 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: you're wasting opportunities. But while you're living in it, it sucks. 310 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: So this season for the Bears, I promise you, is 311 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna suck. At least a bright spot with a guy 312 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: that you drafted, and it fits ultimately the culture of 313 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: what people in Chicago love. Defense now figures. It feels 314 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: like he hates the place, even Deemo seeing I'll say this, 315 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: when he demanded a trade, he never said a peep 316 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: like ro Quans tweeting out, you know, basically a New 317 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: York Times article that he wrote on his notepad, how 318 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: he's over it feels like he's getting screwed and all 319 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: he ever wanted was to play for the Bears. He 320 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: wanted to play his entire career for the Bears. Roquad 321 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: is doing pretty good job pr right now. And this 322 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: is something early on in polls and uber flus his career, 323 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: like that they gotta figure this ship out. There's been 324 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: a lot of I don't know if conjecture is the 325 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: right word, but people like, is it a little weird 326 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: that Sean McVeigh, who turned out Amazon for a ton 327 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: of money and probably you know, turned down Monday Night Football. 328 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Sean McVeigh easily could be making twenty million 329 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: dollars right now, whether it was working without Michael's, whether 330 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: it was working on Monday Night Football, like there were 331 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: It's it's clear there were massive art offers for him 332 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: to work television and those are not gonna go away. 333 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Those are basically standing offers. Anytime Sean McVeigh wants to 334 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: go peace, I'm out, he can immediately go to TV. Hell. 335 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: I heard him last year in the podcast with Tragar. 336 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: If if Sean McVeigh started just a football podcast, it 337 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: immediately be one of the best football podcasts in America. 338 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: His career, like he was made kind of like Mike Omlin. 339 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: They could dominate the space where you talk for They 340 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: were born to talk. Luckily, Sean like Tomlin, born to 341 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: coach football and he's great at it. And he officially 342 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: signed a contract extension. I think it's fair to guess 343 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: where I'm sitting. You know, I don't know. Fifteen ish 344 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars. Uh, he's worth every penny one. He's 345 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: just an absolute rock star. He's basically Jon Gruden back 346 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: in the late nineties early two thousand's. But everyone likes him. 347 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: You know, I met a lot of people that were 348 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: around John Gruden. Uh that they tell you twenty years later. 349 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: A lot of people hated him at the time. Now 350 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: he was winning and it was working, So who cares. 351 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people hate to build parcels too. 352 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you gotta be liked, but like it 353 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt. You know, most guys that played for Andy 354 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: Reid really like them, right, Most guys that played for 355 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin feels like respected. The guy Pete Carroll is 356 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: a good example of in theory, you'd be like, oh, 357 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: everyone likes Pete Carroll. Brids German can't stand the guy 358 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagoner can't stand the guy. Every guy that when 359 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: they leave Seattle, it's like they leave on a negative 360 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: note that's not always good. And that's not the case 361 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: with Sean McVeigh. To me, Sean McVeigh has turned to 362 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: be the total package and the l A Rams have 363 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: basically built their program around the guy, and I would 364 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: say that they are. You know, the NFC, it's pretty 365 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: clear the a f C. I mean, we don't have 366 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson finality to what's going on there, and 367 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: we all think the f C is gonna be awesome, 368 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: but when you really think about it, the Bills are sweet. 369 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: A couple of really good teams are gonna come out 370 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: of the a f C West. My guests would probably 371 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: be the Chiefs and the Chargers, but you know, the 372 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: Raiders and Broncos easily both good too. You know, I 373 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: think the Ravens are gonna be really good. The brown 374 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: excuse me, the Browns. I'm out on the Steelers, like 375 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: their quarterback situation, just I do not trust it at all. 376 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: I do not trust Mr Bisky, and I definitely don't 377 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: trust Kenny Pickett. You know, the Bengals. In theory, Joe 378 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: Roll as a stud But is are they just gonna 379 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: rattle off double digit wins moving forward? You know, time 380 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: will tell. Uh the a f C. South, I think 381 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: it is pretty wide open. I think the Titans come 382 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: back to Earth a little bit. You know the Colts. 383 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: Is there a chance that Frank might be a little overrated? 384 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: You know, does does Andy Reid? Does Belichick? Does Tomlin? Like? 385 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: Lose that game to Jacksonville just to get in the playoffs? 386 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: One thing to lose a playoff game. It's another thing 387 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: to lose with the Jacks with your playoff hopes, Like, 388 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we do enough. We spend enough time 389 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: of like you know, we all talked about the Colts 390 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: and the roster being solid and how they've improved, and 391 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: like Ballards a good GM like is the coach good? 392 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: Everyone speaks highly of him. It seems like a great guy. 393 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know him personally, I know people have been 394 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: around him. Everyone liked him a lot. Are we sure 395 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: he's really good? Are we sure? I don't think we 396 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: asked that question enough Because as someone who thinks the 397 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Titans are gonna come back to Earth a little bit, 398 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: I know Mike Vrabel is a big time coach like, 399 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: if I had to choose between the two coaches, I'm 400 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: taking Mike Vrabel every day of the week and times 401 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday over Frank Reich. I don't even hesitate. So 402 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: if it turns out that, like you know, and this 403 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: happens sometimes, right, Look at the NBA. If you follow 404 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: people to cover the NBA, they all love Adam Silver. 405 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: Adam Silver is like a hero to them. Yet when 406 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: you look at him Silver as a commissioner, players love 407 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: him to wipe. He lets players do whatever the hell 408 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: they want. Yet under his watch, the NBA has kind 409 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: of been a disaster. They've lost half their audience, their 410 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: business has lost in terms of people consuming them over 411 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: time when he's been in charge. That is a fact. 412 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: So his job, like ultimately Roger's job is to increase viewers, 413 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: which increases money. Silver they had a big television deal 414 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: right when he started, and they've lost viewers since. And 415 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: everyone tells me, well, media rights only go up. Yeah, 416 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: people are fucking watching, Like, why is the Big Ten 417 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: gonna get so much money? Because Ohio State is the 418 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: most watched team and now they add USC to go 419 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: along with Michigan, to go along with Penn State, like 420 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: beside the Warriors and like Lebron and be honest, like 421 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: no one watches the NBA relative to what he used 422 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: to be, So you can keep telling me he's a 423 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: good commissioner. Well, I just think you really like him, 424 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: just like Frank, Like it's Frank really good. Like I 425 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: don't know, I just know everyone likes him, and I 426 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: think that clouds their judgment. I say it all the time, 427 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: twine Down on Brandon Staley. I think he plays to 428 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: the media. The media is an easy mark. They're easy 429 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: to play. There are a couple of keywords, and you 430 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: can always go political if you take the right angle, 431 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: and they're gonna love you. I see it in my 432 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: backyard with Gabe Kapler with the Giants. I think he's 433 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: a clown. I think he's terrible at his job. Yet 434 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: the media at the media eating out of his hand, 435 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: and he had one good year and everyone's like, oh 436 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: my god, this guy is the next Spark Anderson, and 437 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I'm watching him. This year's team sucks 438 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: White because he sucks because consistently he's team's underachieve That's 439 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: a fact, you know. But like in the press conference, 440 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: you can say all the right things. And I mean 441 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: he's like, this is my guy that the media is 442 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: easy to play. I don't don't. I don't worry about 443 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: that when it comes to sports. I'm big into black 444 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: and white. Do you win or do you lose? Are 445 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: you successful or you're not? Do you win big games 446 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: or do you not? And right now, Frank like he 447 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: doesn't win big games. They have a good team. We 448 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: all think they got a good roster, they got good players, 449 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: but like, you gotta win a big game. So the 450 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: a f C, like I said, has a lot of talent, 451 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: has a lot of good teams, but we don't think 452 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: Belichick team is gonna be that good. Besides Andy Reid, Like, 453 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: who are the big time coaches. Sean McDermott has had 454 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: some success, but in the biggest game, in the biggest moment, 455 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: they completely kind of shipped down their leg. They blew it. 456 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: And he's a defensive guy, Like that's kind of inexcusable. 457 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: Now we'll see they should. Like I would take Sean 458 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: McDermott over Brandon Staley. He's proven way more as a 459 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: head coach than Josh McDaniels, definitely more than Nathaniel Hackett. 460 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: You know, you'd say, John Harbaugh. Uh, that would be 461 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: a team that I think is gonna come bouncing back. 462 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fascinating to kind of watch this 463 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: this all play out in the a f C. But 464 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: when you look at the NFC, speaking of I guess 465 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: in a long witted way, like, it's just not that good, 466 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: you know. So if the Rams stay healthy, if the 467 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: Bucks stay healthy, if the Ford Diners stay healthy, like, 468 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear the top three or four teams. You know, 469 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: I think the Packers. Everyone's like, oh, you think the 470 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: Packers are gonna come back to earth. I said it yesterday. 471 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: Rogers in a great headspace. I expect them to be really, 472 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: really good. It's gonna might look a little bit different, 473 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: but I do not expect them to all of a 474 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: sudden win nine games. Now, he might not win the 475 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: m v P. Part of it is how hard it 476 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: is to win the m v P three straight years. 477 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: Pretty sure it doesn't happen. Farve did it in one 478 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: of the years. He split it, you know, and now 479 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: he did split it with Barry Sanders. But you know, 480 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: it's just you're more than likely not gonna win three 481 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: straight m v ps. Uh, another thing I saw that 482 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: I just can't get over, and it honestly kind of 483 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: bothers me. And this is not personal. I have nothing 484 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: against the guy, though I do think a little like 485 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, a little like Adam Silver. He clearly is 486 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: well liked. People that meet this individual, and I know 487 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: several people that know him, they really like them, and listen, 488 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: there's something to be said for that. If you're just 489 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: a good human. To me, there's a difference of like, 490 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: are you a good human just because you're an actually 491 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: a good human, or are you a fake in a phony? Right? 492 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: Like people that meet people in just different industries, Like 493 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: I like this guy. He's just a normal, authentic human, 494 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: and then it's like, well, I think this guy is 495 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: pretty fake, and I'm always out on the fake guys. 496 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: I was talking to someone the other day who had 497 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: been around Russell Wilson, and I said, what's his deal? Man? 498 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Does he does? Does he flip a switch when he's 499 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: b essa with you over a sandwich? Then when he's 500 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, speaking on camera or talking on social media, 501 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: and the guys like, honestly, I swear to God, in 502 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: all my interactions with him, he acts weird. Regardless, he's 503 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: kind of a weird cat. I don't think he's being 504 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: fake when the camera's on. I think that's just kind 505 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: of what he is. He's kind of a robot. And 506 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: if that's true, we could say he's cringe, we can 507 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: say he's corny, but I do respect that's actually him. 508 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: It's the reason I, and like most of society, we 509 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: laugh at politicians because we think they say one thing 510 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: and then they do another. We don't think we see them. 511 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: They say one thing and they do another. They're completely phony. 512 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: And I despise phonies. But if you're weird and quirky, 513 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: and we think you're weird and quirky, as long as 514 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: you're like that to your wife behind closed doors, like listen, 515 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: maybe you're just different. I got no issue with it. 516 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: But Steve Sarkisian is well liked. People really like the guy. 517 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: But as a football coach, as a head coach, he 518 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: has not been successful. He just has not. And I've 519 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: heard people like, well, he took over the worst team 520 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: in Washington. Yes it is true, but several years later 521 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: they recruited their ass off, and he struggled to win 522 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: seven and eight games. And when Chris Peterson got there, 523 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: who was a very successful coach at Boise State, immediately 524 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: takes Washington to the playoffs with all Starks guys. Stark 525 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: has won over eight games one time in his entire career, 526 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: and last year at Texas they went five and seven. Now, 527 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: I think we all acknowledge with their ability and n 528 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: I l to pay players and be Jean Robinson, I 529 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: think is considered to be not just the best running 530 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: back in this class, one of the best players in 531 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: the country, and it would be hard for them to 532 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: quite be as shitty as they were last year. I 533 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: would expect them to be over five, but the coaches 534 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: poll came out they were I think ranked four or 535 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: maybe it was fifteen. And the AP Pulse coming out soon, 536 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine they might not be that high, but 537 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be in the poll. They are always in 538 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: the damn pulse, like how are wet? It's one thing 539 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: usc USC coming off one of the worst seasons in 540 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: program history. If they had just rolled it back with 541 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: Clay Hilton, under no circumstances, could you put them in 542 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: the top twenty five. Now, ultimately they would be able 543 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: to prove their top team. I have no problem with that. 544 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: But before the season starts, can't put you in the top. Well, 545 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: USC hires Lincoln Riley, who when I check his resume, 546 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 1: I go, this guy wins a shipload of games. If 547 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley's your head coach, you got a chance on 548 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs, let alone win in eleven twelve games. So 549 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley get Caleb Williams. Now, are they probably ranked 550 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: a little high? People are gonna have him in like 551 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: the top ten, top twelve. Yeah, But I got no 552 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: issue with you giving the benefit of the doubt to 553 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. Steve Sarkisian as a coach of a football program, 554 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: especially one he ain't taken Ohio State or Alabama, this Texas, 555 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt that 556 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: they should be banned from being in the preseason polls. Now, 557 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: ultimately they may get there. They may have a season 558 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: where they go nine and three, and I'll be impressed. 559 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: But until they do, and until specifically he does not 560 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: just people like him, not just people are rooting for him, 561 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: but like actually win some games, actually as successful. Like, utimately, 562 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: you know what Brian Kelly will do, is it gonna 563 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: win a national championship or not. I don't know. Well, 564 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly win at l s U one million percent? 565 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: Why because you look at Brian Kelly. Literally everywhere the 566 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: guy has been, he has kicked ass and taken names 567 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: every single place. Is he guaranteed to win a national championship? 568 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Of course not as long as Savings there. It's gonna 569 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: be really hard. As long as Jimbo's there, as long 570 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: as Lane it just has them playing hard. Aubert's The 571 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: division speaks for itself. The SEC is very difficult. Then 572 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: if you do win the West, you gotta beat Kirby. 573 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Now you could argue you just get to the SEC 574 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: championship game. You got a chance still to make the playoffs, 575 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: and the playoffs are expanding. But my point is I 576 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: have no problem giving the benefit of the the doubt to 577 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: coaches who have won other places. Like Mario. Is Mario 578 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: gonna win a national championship at Miami? I would probably 579 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: say no. But if you want to say, you know what, 580 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: Mario is gonna turn around this program fast and have 581 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: them competing for the playoffs, I'd be like, yeah, I 582 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: can see it. I saw what he did in organ 583 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: had them elite recruiting classes and had them nine wins 584 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: every year, competing to win the Pack twelve or winning 585 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve going to the Rose Bowl. I can 586 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: see it as long as he gets it right at quarterback. 587 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: I know all the other positions are gonna have NFL 588 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: players everywhere he's I've seen it. I have never seen 589 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: it with sark Yeah, he recruited, he recruited well at Washington. 590 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: He couldn't win in a down pack twelve NFL players everywhere, 591 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: and I I just everyone is so bullish just because 592 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: they have all this money, like Texas, Texas A, and M. 593 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Anyone around college football will tell you those two programs 594 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: right now have basically more resources than anyone else, like 595 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: not named USC. They just have so much money to 596 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: pay these players, which is an advantage, but I think 597 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: it's a way bigger advantage for Texas A and M, 598 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 1: especially if you factor in Texas going to the SEC too. 599 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: Why because they have Jimbo Fisher, who I don't know 600 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: has won a national championship, who also went again to 601 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs the following year. He has one. He has 602 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: been successful at the highest of high levels. Steve Sarkisia 603 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: has won nine games one time in his life. So 604 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: I just think we need to pump the brakes on 605 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: the Texas hype until I don't know, they prove it. 606 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: And I'm excited for college football. I think it's gonna 607 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: be an awesome season, even though let's face it, there's 608 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: probably three teams that can win the national championship this year, Bama, 609 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: Ohio State, in Georgia, even Michigan. It was a fun run, 610 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: but they lost some players in the draft. It's gonna 611 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: be difficult. They hung their hat on their defensive line. 612 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: They lost their two best defensive linemen. Now I still 613 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be good, but I think Ohio States 614 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: beat him this year. I think I think it's fair 615 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: to say that. But this notion that Texas is like 616 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden gonna be, you know, swinging around 617 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: the big boys, Like, let's pump the brakes. Come with 618 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: another podcast plan will be Friday, uh, and then we'll 619 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: do a mail bag for the weekend. We got preseason 620 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: game starting maybe all you know, I told everybody I 621 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: quit Hard Knocks, and I really did, but I was 622 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: telling someone at forty practice today I thought Hard Knocks 623 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: last year with the Cowboys was beyond awful. It wasn't 624 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: It was terrible television. I think even Cowboy fans listening 625 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: to this would have to acknowledge, like, it's pretty bad. 626 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, like, I wonder if it 627 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: was a lot of Mike McCarthy, and Mike McCarthy ruined 628 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: it for me, because I do think you can have 629 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: in this modern day Hard Knocks where part of what 630 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: I missed the most about Hard Knocks is the internal 631 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: discussions with the personnel people and the coaches about the players. 632 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is like talking shit, 633 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: basically saying like this guy is not good enough, like 634 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: the raw football talk, which we don't get anymore. And 635 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: I understand if I was a team, I wouldn't let 636 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: that stuff out either. I don't blame these teams for 637 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: keeping that in house now, But if you're not gonna 638 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: give me that, you need to give me a crazy coach, 639 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: and I do. I'm gonna give Hard Knocks a shot 640 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: because of Dan Campbell. He might just be able to 641 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: entertain me. Now, I if I had to guess, I 642 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: don't make it more than two episodes. But I I 643 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: said I quit last year. I'm unofficially returning I'm gonna 644 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: give the first episode a shot. I'm gonna watch some 645 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and then go from there because I I 646 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: do think when you're choosing, how is hard Knocks going 647 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: to be successful or not on a given year. Successful 648 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: hard knocks usually have people like Dan Campbell as lead characters. Remember, 649 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: not that long ago The Texans with Bill O'Brien was 650 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: kind of entertaining just because he was a crazy s 651 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: ob swearing all the time, just going nuts. And I 652 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: don't know if Campbell how much he swears or not, 653 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: but I I do think he could carry a couple 654 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: episodes just by himself. So oh, I'm gonna give it 655 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: a shot. Subscribe to the podcast. Talked to Everyone later, 656 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: Uh no golf podcast for a couple of weeks until 657 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: ship you know hits the fan with live which seems 658 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: like it's coming, and uh talk to everyone in Peace 659 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: the volume