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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. Elizabeth Saren. I

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Speaker 1: got a question for you. Yep, do you know what

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Speaker 1: is ridiculous? Now? Okay, because I do well, I actually do. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I was just kidding. I like sandwiches. I just want

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Speaker 1: to put that out. That's not ridiculous, like an Italian

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Speaker 1: Deli sandwich, that's right. Particularly, And I like a good

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Speaker 1: I like a good handbag, a pocketbook. I like a

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Speaker 1: good stylish pocket. Yeah you did so. Um as experts

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Speaker 1: in all things bread, Panera decide, I'm just reading from

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Speaker 1: their website decided to step up to the plate to

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Speaker 1: create a baguette bag. Bag. Bag is in all caps.

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Speaker 1: I'm with it designed in a way that it really

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Speaker 1: should be stylish on the outside and perfect to pair

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Speaker 1: with our toasted baggetts. So it's a it's a well venture.

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Speaker 1: It's a foot long bag that you can fit one

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Speaker 1: of their sandwiches in. So someone's driving to work and

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Speaker 1: they're like, just like, oh, I got this big meeting

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Speaker 1: They're like, I don't have a pitch, And all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden they realize, wait, I had Panari yesterday bag

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Speaker 1: bag at exactly. That's all the work that goes into

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Speaker 1: these things high. It's like literally one totally. It looks

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Speaker 1: it looks like one of those like late nineties early

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Speaker 1: auts Fendi bags, like a little clutch. It's green, but

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Speaker 1: more power to it. It's made out of a luxurious

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Speaker 1: pebbled polyurethane exterior. Find these things my dominions. No, friend

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Speaker 1: of the show Solid Dad on Instagram she sent it

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Speaker 1: to us. Thank you. No, she's awesome. Um so yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's I mean it holds a twelve venture but it's

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Speaker 1: really fourteen inches long. I'm really holding my tongue right now.

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Speaker 1: And then like you know, you're running, you're running to

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Speaker 1: catch the subway and you're busy on the go, New

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Speaker 1: York lifestyle, and then you trip and instead of like

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Speaker 1: you instead of your compact and like some tampons and

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Speaker 1: change spilling all over the sidewalker' just your big twelve

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Speaker 1: incher just rolls up. All of the Yorkers are just

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Speaker 1: looking at me like, is that your twelve inches sir?

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Speaker 1: Yes it is, And it's picking up the shredded lettuce

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Speaker 1: off the sidewalk to shove it back in the sandwich. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: guess what, that's ridiculous. That is definitely, oh man, Elizabeth, Yes,

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind just taking a second with me, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've got one for you. Yes, okay, it has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with sandwiches. Oh that's a shame. But Elizabeth,

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Speaker 1: you're not an Oasis fan, right. It's not that I

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Speaker 1: love a good desert Oasis, not that I don't. It's

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Speaker 1: not that I dislike them, but I'm not like but

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Speaker 1: you know the guy to see him in concert? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know the song talking like Wonderwall, Champaigns, Supernova,

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Speaker 1: Don't Look Back in Anger. Yeah, you're familiar with the

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Speaker 1: hits yea. When I lived in Scotland, Don't Look Back

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Speaker 1: in Anger as a favorite pub song. And then if

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Speaker 1: people were walking home from the pub in the middle

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Speaker 1: the road. So you've heard that song, yes, a lot? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: they'll see you'll love this episode that it's about. The

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Speaker 1: band was once, as you know, the biggest band in

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Speaker 1: the world, and it was led by the battling brothers,

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Speaker 1: Liam and Noel Gallagher. Yes, and oh man, did they

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Speaker 1: hate each other? Just hate each other, which naturally led

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Speaker 1: to all sorts of ridiculous crimes. And that's what we're

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Speaker 1: heard me say, because we're gonna take a gander back

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Speaker 1: for some laughs. Nice. This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast

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Speaker 1: about absurd and outrageous capers. Heis and cons it's always

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Speaker 1: ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. Elizabeth,

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Speaker 1: I brought you here today to talk about Oasis, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think it'll be fun because you know,

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Speaker 1: And yes they had super catchy pop song lyrics, but

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the key to their magic. What I want

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Speaker 1: to talk to you know, Like, yes, okay, big brother Noel,

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Speaker 1: he wrote the songs, Liam sang. That's great, that magic

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Speaker 1: is the Gallagher brothers hatred of each other. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: Oh no, they flat out despised each other. They both

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Speaker 1: now you were, as you said, you've been in Scotland,

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Speaker 1: nineties cool Britannia moment. No, yeah, right, you were here

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Speaker 1: say favorite bands? Did you like Blur? Did you like

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Speaker 1: we learned about the Gallaghris because they were always getting embusted, right,

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Speaker 1: just an example of their contentious relationship. The band was

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Speaker 1: head with a hammer by rival school kids. Lovely for him.

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Speaker 1: The sound guy's hiding, the roadies hiding so that they're

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00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: trying not to get arrested. But the band, drunk as

419
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: they are sideways, they are easy grab. So now the

420
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,239
Speaker 1: band looks like they're about to self destruct before they

421
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: even get to their first big gig. This is the

422
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: magic of the battle in Gallaghers. Right. Okay, So we're

423
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 1: now between England and Amsterdam and they're in jail. Okay, right.

424
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: The next day, after the casino boat fight and all

425
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: around melee and chaos occurs, the roadie has to go

426
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: find the band. So he doesn't know what to do,

427
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: so he goes to when the boat docks, he goes

428
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: to customs. He's like, hey, have you seen a band

429
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: come through here? So yeah, he finally locates them and

430
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: someone's like, oh, yeah, they're arrested. You gotta go talk

431
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: to these people. He finds out that the boat just

432
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: handed them over to European customs officials. The European customsucials like,

433
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 1: get the hell with these people, put them back on

434
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 1: the boat said send them back to the UK. Well,

435
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: the band didn't have any money because they spend it

436
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: all on drugs. Right, So the customs ficials are like,

437
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: you're you're broke here, drunk, messed up, go back home.

438
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: In the UK, They're like, we don't want any of

439
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: this lattish here behavior here. So now the road, he

440
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: has to call the label president and tell them that

441
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: the first big international gig is a total bust because

442
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: the band is on their way back in Cancuffs feeling superslonic.

443
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: So he calls up McGee and McGhee is Scottish. Right,

444
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: I'll just say that the news did not hit his

445
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: ears well, and he then responded with a string of

446
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: cusswords with a couple question marks punctuating the cusswords. Right.

447
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: So anyway, but when Noel tells the story, because Noel

448
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: eventually gets out of custody, he calls McGee to give

449
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: him the bad news. And he's not the roadie, he's

450
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: the star of the band. So McGhee, this is all

451
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: Noel tells it. I called McGhee and I'll never forget this.

452
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: This is another reason why I love Meghee. I said,

453
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: are you sitting down, I've got some news. Everybody's been arrested.

454
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: The only word he said was brilliant. He realizes, why

455
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: is it brilliant? Because he knows the band's name is

456
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: now made. Oh yeah, I hear all the papers, free

457
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: publicity all around. The British press goes gaga for this

458
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: bad boy boy band Roger star reputation establish exactly so

459
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: they are now the most dangerous British lads since Sid

460
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: Vicious went over. Right, Well, you know we're not accounting

461
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: Lemmy motor hand. There's a lot of people who are

462
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 1: care but in the mythos right anyway, So after their

463
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: casino wrecking fairy brawl with cops in west Ham hooligans,

464
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: Oasis enjoys its new fame and the Gallagher brothers relish

465
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: all the attention, and one of them loves having a

466
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: reputation for having the sort of balls that British bands

467
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: didn't have during that new wave error I talked about, right,

468
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: and that's obviously is Liam. But the the other one, no,

469
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: it starts to bother him, right, and just this tension

470
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: eats at him. But Liam doesn't care. He's like, that's

471
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: how I want my rock and roll stars to act,

472
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: stick up for themselves, get in a bit of shenanigans

473
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: and that's it. We live to fight another day. To me,

474
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: it felt right. So he's just all about it. So

475
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,239
Speaker 1: at one point the British press they start keying in

476
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: on this tension between Noel and Liam. So they're like, hey,

477
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: what's it like being a brothers in a band? This

478
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: one TV presenter asked him, right, the interviewer really wants

479
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: to know, like how often you guys fight? Yea. So

480
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: the brothers can barely contain their animus. It's just ripping

481
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: through their eye. They're shooting mean looks at each other

482
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: all the time and stuffings, like they look when one

483
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: goes to answer a question, the other one just starts laughing.

484
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: You know. It's just getting bad, right. So Liam starts

485
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: to answer, Noel calls him out on it because you

486
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: can't answer anyway. They get down to it. Liam's side,

487
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, okay, all we got to do is

488
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: look at each other in a certain kind of way

489
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 1: when we row, without even opening our mobs, we just

490
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: we're just like going gar in our head, you know

491
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. So they just absolutely have a fury

492
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: burning in each other. It's just the sight of the

493
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: other can make them like, I don't understand how you

494
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: stay in a band like exactly, it doesn't make sense.

495
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: You want to tour the world with a person you hate,

496
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: a bus with a person you hate. Oh yeah, yeah,

497
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: there's that too. There is that. So the as one

498
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: family friend put it, I thought, this is a good perspective.

499
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: She said, Noel has a lot of buttons. Liam has

500
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: a lot of fingers. It's as simple as that. Really,

501
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: that's a really good way to put it. Yeah, So

502
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: if you dig into the battling Gallaghers, which I did,

503
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: you'll hear a story about how their rivalry started. And

504
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: Liam credits this for everything Noel doesn't. But anyway, apparently

505
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: the rivalry began when they shared a room as kids. Natural. Yeah,

506
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: you didn't share a room with your brother, right for

507
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: a little bit? Yeah, did you guys have your attention

508
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: about that? No? In fact, we would. My mom would

509
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: get all mad because she would tell us to go

510
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: to bed, and then she'd hear us like absolutely cracking

511
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: up and laughing. And then we had this thing where

512
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: we had these two twin beds and we would jump

513
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: one from the other and high five in the middle,

514
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: and we did it over and over, and then we

515
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: broke one of the beds and they're like, my mom

516
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: and my grand were like, well, you gotta sleep on it.

517
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: You want to do that to it? So it was

518
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: all so, you guys are the anti Gallagher brothers pretty much. Yea.

519
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: So when they shared a bed or bedroom rather, it

520
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 1: didn't go that well, let's just run it that way.

521
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: Apparently Noel had bought this stereo for himself. And these

522
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: guys grew up council estates lads right, like real poor

523
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: public housing. They didn't have much money. Their mom was

524
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: a single mother. So this stereo is a major purchase

525
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: for Noel. Sure, and he loves music. Remember he's the

526
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: brother who loves music. No, No, that's Liam. Liam get

527
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: hit in the head, music gets knocked into him. No,

528
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: always loves music. Oh exactly. The lead singer is the

529
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: one gets hit in the head. The songwriter guitarist is

530
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: the one who's like, music is his life. Got it?

531
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? So Liam comes home drunk and he's

532
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: like a teenager and he can't find the light switch.

533
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: So what does he do. He just urinates all over

534
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: his big brother's new stereo. Oh that's what that looks

535
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: like a toilet Naturally, so Liam says, and I quote,

536
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: I think it basically boils down to that he's held

537
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: that grudge. So he's convinced that his brother's mad because

538
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: he urinated on I think it's probably more than that

539
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: us guess and Liam, you may want to dig deeper

540
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: old hammer strike. So anyway, has fame takes hold of

541
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: them and they go on the road. As you pointed out,

542
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: they are, you know, hateful, but having spent a lot

543
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: of time next to each other, with each other and

544
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: it makes no sense, and they go to America like this,

545
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: and so now they want to really impress everybody. So

546
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: they're playing shows all across America. And what happens they

547
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: cross paths with Crystal Meth. Oh no, perfect right, because

548
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: I will say that there is sibling arguments are different

549
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: than arguments between other people because it just sort of

550
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: comes and goes. And he can Yeah, you expect them

551
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: to be in your life exactly, and so you can't

552
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: can't reach a point where you no longer brothers and

553
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: sisters who they snapped that bridge. Yeah, anyway, as no'll

554
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: recall them meeting Crystal Meth on the road in America. Quote,

555
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: someone had discovered the joys of crystal meth, which is

556
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: effectively like ninja speed. It's not even fun, you know

557
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's a it's a horrible drug. Oh boy.

558
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, it gets better because at first they

559
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: don't know it's meth. They're convinced it's cocaine. So they're

560
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: snorting rails of meth. Oh no. Yeah. So they're staying

561
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: up for days at a time wondering how do you

562
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: get to such strong cocaine in America? So their meth

563
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: to the guilt and they get to La and they're

564
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna play the Whiskey a go go as like a

565
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: big showcase and this is their their their second big

566
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: international gig if you will, right there next time on

567
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: the Grand stage. And what happens. They show up meth

568
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: to the gills and having spent the night up right

569
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: their highest draft eyebrows. Okay, so Liam starts singing and

570
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: his teeth just fallout much that his plays the worst

571
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: show they've ever put onf on record, right, it's a

572
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: total embarrassment. They start out play all playing different songs

573
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: because they have different yes, so that's how it starts.

574
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: And then they goa let's start again, you guys super

575
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: Sonic on three, Like we are feeling so super sonic

576
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: right now? You guys, Now, who do you think Noel

577
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: Gallagher blames? Oh? And who do you think Liam Gallagher blames?

578
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: I wish no no blames, of course. So what happens

579
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: At some point in the gig, Liam gets a little

580
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: pissed and he rears back and he chucks his tambourine

581
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: at his brother on stage, just hits him in the

582
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: head with the tambourine. Now, can I just say that

583
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: like the least tough thing in the world to throw

584
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: a tambourine. Remember I was telling you about how Nold

585
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: can have cutting remarks. You're ready now Nol tells it best,

586
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: in my opinion, He says, not like a Bruce Lee

587
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: throwing star or a lightsaber. It was a tambourine. But

588
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: when it hit me on the shoulder, he went out

589
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: of time. I might add that the thing was sounded it,

590
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: so yes, it's perfect. Apparently Liam had been ducking behind

591
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: an app during the show and distorting rails of crystal

592
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: meth during the show. You know, meth is not known

593
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: as a singer's drug the road. He Jason Rhodes he

594
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: put it, that's gonna go tits up, isn't it? Yeah?

595
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: So how's he like singing through like his teeth graining together,

596
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: like going sideways, like just chewing rocks. Anyway, So, after

597
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: this disaster of a Methfield show at the in La,

598
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: in front of all the industry big wigs and everybody,

599
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: Noble isn't super embarrassed because remember he takes music seriously, right,

600
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: He goes back to the hotel. He asked the tour

601
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: manager for the float, you know, the petty cash. This

602
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: time he doesn't go buy street drugs in La. Instead,

603
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: he grabs his passport and the seven hundred bucks he

604
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: catches off the manager, right, and then he leaves his

605
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: brother this note, and Liam recalls this moment. I remember

606
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: he left me some soppy note coming through the door,

607
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: saying like how can we go on? Like brothers? It

608
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, right off. So that got rolled up,

609
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: and then another line of crystal methmun up the old

610
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: tubula bells. So he takes his brother's sentimental note. He

611
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: snorts crystal meth. He's so yeah anyway, No, like the dinosaurs,

612
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: when the meteor hit, he disappears, He's gone he's out

613
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: of it right. Tour manager freaks out because if they're

614
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: in LA, they're at the top of the tour. Everything

615
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: is going wrong. But she's a pro, she's smart, she

616
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: doesn't lose her head. Her freak out doesn't last long.

617
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: She goes to the hotel. She's like, wait, print up

618
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: Noel's phone records because remember this is pre cell phone,

619
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: so he's been using the hotel phone for all this communication.

620
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: So she looks at all the numbers he called. She

621
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: spots one number it sticks out. It's a number in

622
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: San Francisco. She's like four and five that's a San

623
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: Francisco area code. So the band had just been in

624
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: San Francisco prior to LA and Noland hooked up with

625
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: some woman in the Bay. So apparently he flew back

626
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: to his hook up. Yeah, and the tour manager she's

627
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: like me, she bets on sex. She's like, that's where

628
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: he went, and she was right, that's where he went.

629
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: So they phoned the number and they're convinced Nola's up

630
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: there because the girl's like, I don't know where he is.

631
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: You're like, we're gonna have to call the police because

632
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: he's a missing person. She's like, oh well, oh shoot.

633
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, he's there, right. So anyway, Noel's

634
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: hiding out in San Francisco, and while he's there, he

635
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: writes this new song called talk Tonight, Right and Talk

636
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Tonight about his time with this girl. And the song

637
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: has lines like I want to talk tonight about how

638
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: you saved my life. You and me see how we

639
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: are right. I'm doing a terrible job right And there's

640
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: no melody at all what I saying. But you're probably

641
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: helping it. No, no, no, he would hate to hear

642
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: that when I just did this song. Anyway, Noel's version

643
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: of events is for this song. I remember, he writes

644
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: the song about this girl saves his life, and here's

645
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: how he describes this moment. I kind of sat in

646
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: this girl's flat, probably doing too many drugs and being

647
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: a bit mad. Unbeknown to me, they found out. This

648
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: is where he thinks he is. If I close my

649
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: eyes now, I can't even picture the girl. I can't

650
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: remember her name. It's a bit of a blur, but

651
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: she saved my life exactly. He's gonna go and sing

652
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: a song about her for years part dude, Well, no,

653
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: she got up, she got up queen. Yeah. So, after

654
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: he writes his hit song about this name, this girl

655
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: who saved his life while they did meth in her

656
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: apartment in San Francisco, No contacts Oasis and lets him

657
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: know I'm not quinning the band guys, and so you

658
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: goes any because like, I can't quit rock stardom. So

659
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: I wish I knew how to get exactly. I want

660
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: to know who this lady is too. I'm gonna do

661
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: some special investigator. I think you could find it. I

662
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: probably could. We'll take a little break and then I'll

663
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: get back with you with the madness that is only

664
00:33:38,640 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: going to ratch it up. Oh no, all right, Elizabeth.

665
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: We're now in January nineteen ninety five. Yes, do you

666
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: remember it? Yes? Okay, it's about to get sideways, so

667
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: just hold onto your memories, okay. Because the band Oasis

668
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: is busy recording their big smash it album, What's Up,

669
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: Morning Glory? What's the Story? Morning Glory? So story girl,

670
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: Noel was writing the songs recording the guitar parts. Frontman

671
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: Liam is able to knock out his lead vocals after

672
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: hearing Noel sing the songs to him just once because

673
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: he's they're brothers. They got it like that. So he

674
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: goes in records. It boom, perfect take done, next song,

675
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: real rock star energy, I mean, like impressive. Like these guys,

676
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: these guys are knocking out hits, like like Henry Ford

677
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: knocking out model to him. I mean they're just banging

678
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: them out right at this point, like Oasis is a

679
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: locked in pop music music factory like Barry Gordy and

680
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: Smokey Robinson in Motown days would be like that's probably

681
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: they're making hits. So anyway, so what does this all

682
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: mean though, Well, it means that Liam doesn't have enough

683
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: to do because he's able to knock out his tracks,

684
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: so okay, and then Nol starts messing around the guitar

685
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: doing another song. So Liam gets bored. So what does

686
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Liam doing? He gets bored, he pops down to the

687
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 1: local pub and he gets cozy with all the local

688
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: drug dealers. I don't know, that's a recipe for disaster, right,

689
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: So okay, little brother Liam too good at his job

690
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: knocking out hit songs too quickly, so after one or

691
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: two of them are done, he's off to the pub

692
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: and he starts bringing bandmates down there too. So now

693
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Nold starts noticing there's nobody around for him. He starts

694
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: getting bummed up. He's like, hey, guys, what do you think. Oh,

695
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: everyone's down at the pub with Liam. Okay. So it

696
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: gets worse though, because it's not just sad one night,

697
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: Liam decides to bring the pub back to the studio,

698
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: of course, and so he brings all his drug and

699
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: pub friends back to the manor home where the band

700
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: has been recording their album. So cut to Nol hammering

701
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: away in the studio, still knocking out the hit songs,

702
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: and there's old Liam and his like personal press gang

703
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: of Nardawells and dope fiends, and they come back a

704
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: lot up with the country lane. Okay. Liam recalls this

705
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: moment innocently enough. He's like, now, I shouldn't have brought

706
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: them back. But I thought we were a rock and

707
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: roll band, you know what I mean? I thought anything

708
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: goes in oasis. No. I mean, obviously other people had rules,

709
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? The rules man goodness, So

710
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: no rules, no law, no gods, no masters. All right,

711
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna be about it, let's be about it, Elizabeth.

712
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: I'd like you to close your guys, ask to picture it.

713
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: A farmhouse in the English countryside evening time. After leaving

714
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: behind a life working as the assistant dog groomer to

715
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: the royal family, you've moved on and found some of

716
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: the quiet life of an English country village. You're working

717
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: at a farm. You're in charge of shepherd and geese

718
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: around the pastures. You're a gooseherd. You love it, but

719
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: the village is a little bit boring. So this evening

720
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: you've been invited down the lane to a new friend's farmhouse.

721
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: A band is in town. Everybody's been talking about it.

722
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: Now you finally get to meet the band. It's Oasis,

723
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: those lovable cokehead lads from the TV. But you've commented

724
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: inconvenient time. One of the band members is still recording

725
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: tracks when you arrive at the farm, but your new

726
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: friend tells you it's cool. You two can watch Noel record.

727
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: He likes to be watched, or rather he likes an audience. Anyway.

728
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: You sit on the recording studio couch and you watch

729
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Noel Gallagher sing into a mic, and then the gates

730
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: of hell yawn open. It starts with the sound of

731
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: a drunken crowd drawing closer. Then a door to the

732
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: farmhouse slams open against a wall, but noisy crowd is

733
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: suddenly everywhere. They are in the farmhouse named room. You

734
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: can hear them just outside the door to the recording studio.

735
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: Then you hear laughter, glasses sounds like a fire extinguisher.

736
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: You get confirmation of the fire extinguisher when the door

737
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: to the recording studio kicks open and there's little brother

738
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: Liam Gallagher, and he's armed with the aforementioned fire extinguisher.

739
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: He starts spraying it around the room. He's drunker than

740
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: anyone you've ever seen in your life. His gleeful, wicked

741
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: gran is just beaming out of his face. The others

742
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: with him also spill into the studio, all loud and drunk.

743
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: Someone tackles somebody, They land on the soundboard. It's all chaos.

744
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Noel comes storming out of the record He immediately attacks

745
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: his brother. They wrestle around on the ground at your feet.

746
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: You're trying to move your legs out of the ways.

747
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: You don't get an ankle hurt boom. You want to leave,

748
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: but your trap because people are still coming in the door.

749
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: There are drunks pouring into this tiny recording studio, a

750
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: steady river of drunks. Elizabeth, Oh, you're just getting wet

751
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: with drunks, You're god. So some of these still, some

752
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: of these guys still have pints in their hands from

753
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: the pub. Like it is like a scene. So now

754
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: there's more fighting. The soundboard is getting broken, beers just

755
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: billed on it. Several studio monitors are getting kicked in.

756
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: Now there's like, oh, there's a pile of electronics just

757
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: in the corner going just broken. It looks like a

758
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: little sad, busted up robots. It's just kind of pitiful.

759
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Then the cricket bat comes out boa Noel is swinging it.

760
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: He connects solid strike to his brother's dome. He does

761
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: not knock the music back out of his head, though.

762
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: But you think I'd said I'm out of here. This

763
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: is two, this is nuts. I can't I can't handle this.

764
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: So you get up from the couch, You shove your

765
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: way through the drunks, you push your way out of

766
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: the farmhouse, and as soon as you're outside, you see

767
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: Noel another bandmate hop out of a window. Noel on

768
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: the replacement drummer head for our car, right, and you

769
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: hear yourself ask for a ride and immediately regret asking

770
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: for the ride. But it's they're like, yeah, sure, come on.

771
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: You're like okay, you run and you hop in the

772
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: little tiny rountal card just as you. Noel and the

773
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: replacement drummer, whose name is Whitey, we're all driving off.

774
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: You spot him there he is. Liam runs up blocking

775
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: the lane. He has a trash can over his head.

776
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: He looks like Atlas holding up the earth right, and

777
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: then he hucks the trash can right out the car.

778
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: You hear Noel order that Whitey floret and drive right

779
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: at his brother. The replacement drummer does as told. He's

780
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: a replacement drummer, and it works. Liam dives out of

781
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: the way and the car zooms past. You're free, kind

782
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: of You're in a car stuck with Arrius Noel Gallagher. Yeah,

783
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: so why do the replacement drummer he can't believe what

784
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: just happened, and is he's driving. He's just muttered himself.

785
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: He can't be over. I've only just joined. And then

786
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: you hear noltell no, no, no, this is gonna happen

787
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: all the time, mate, And then white do you replacement

788
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: drummer replies, oh how how oh mate, what kind of

789
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: band is this? And you ask Whitey if he can

790
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: just pull over because you'd like to get out and walk. Yeah, yeah,

791
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: exactly what a night, huh. I should have just been

792
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: all released. The geese disappear. Yeah, like Dracula, the geese

793
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: on the Oh, I thought they were just coming. I

794
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: would have my standing army of geese. Get I thought

795
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: it was going to come in and grab you. And

796
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: just afterwards, Oh okay, never mind, take back all right, Well, listen,

797
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: we'll jump forward now to September nineteen ninety five. Later

798
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: in the same year, Noel is now starting to talk

799
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: publicly about wanting to leave the band, just openly. Yeah.

800
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: The bat to the head was his bowment. He's like,

801
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: I had to hit my brother in the head with

802
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: a cricket bat. I've got to think about my life choicest.

803
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: So at that exact same time, though, thanks to songs

804
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: like Champagne Supernova and wonder Wall and Don't Look Back

805
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: at Anger, their new album becomes the biggest album in

806
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: the world. Now He's Locked In becomes such a monstrous

807
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: all around the world anywhere they go, people are singing

808
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: their songs right back out right. We're just really wild

809
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: for these boys from Manchester. Yeah, oh right, So they

810
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: now have to enlarge their egos to deal with what

811
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: is their curse. Yeah yeah, it's a big brother nol.

812
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: He can't help it act out now as well. So

813
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: there was this time MTV e goes to interview him.

814
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: The Noal is just like full of themselves. He's not

815
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: really thinking about what he's saying, but he says something

816
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: that would really come to haunt him. He says, if

817
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: people were honest with themselves, quote the majority of people

818
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: in this country take drugs, then I mean the better

819
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: off will all be. Everybody does it? You do it,

820
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: you do it, you do it. He's pointing out like

821
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: all the people around him with cameras. He points at

822
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: his bodyguard. He doesn't do it because he's a Buddhist.

823
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like getting up having a cup

824
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: of tea in the morning. In that line, a cup

825
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: of tea in the morning, get just stuck in the

826
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: British girl. So that becomes the statement for all the

827
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: pearl clutching to just rally around. So the mainstream British

828
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: press they start writing up headlines and the headlines write

829
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: themselves like drugs are my cup of tea, and so

830
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: they just the son and big bold type. Wasn't there

831
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: that study where they checked like five and twenty pound

832
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: notes for for cocaine and it was ridiculous, like apparently,

833
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: and also the sewers, the British Sewers have just cocaine

834
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: running through exactly and it oases only blame for seven percent.

835
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: Event Yeah, for the next decade, the band continues to

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Speaker 1: embarrass themsel hosts on stages all around the world, and

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00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: Liam even tries to repeat himself and he hugs the

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00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: tambourine and his brother's head again. Yeah, it's always a

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00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: shame when an act realizes it's time to just go

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00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: out there and play their greatest hits. You're like, I'm

841
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: doing the tambourine bit, guys. Anyway, So in two thousand

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00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: and nine, Oasis breaks up, all right, and they did

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00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: it on my birthday. Shocker of all shockers. The breakup

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00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: happens in mid tour. Oh yeah, it's always fun. He

845
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: was due to a fight between the brothers, and this

846
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: time it is the absolute hum danger of a knockdown,

847
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: drag out fight, worse than the studio fight that I

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00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: told you about. You're a witness there. Yes, they're in

849
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Paris at the time, the City of Lights, and they

850
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: had two shows left to play on their tour. They

851
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: were just two shows left, that's all they had to do.

852
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: They were the headliners for this big summer festival, and

853
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: the brothers at this point are traveling separately. They were

854
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: not speaking to each other. They have intermediary's pretty much

855
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: jungle a communication, but they still have to get out

856
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: on stage together, and then they also have to be

857
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: backstage together before they get out on stage together. So

858
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: there's two moments people have to keep them separate. Yeah,

859
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: they can't do it. As Noel remembered it for an

860
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: interview with Esquire magazine, well, we had two gigs left,

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00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: and I reckon. If I'd had got to the end

862
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: of that tour and i had six months off, I

863
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: would have just forgotten about it, gone on with it.

864
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: But the straw that broke the camel's back was that

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00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: night in Paris, and that was a fight. Was pissed

866
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: at Liam because, in true rockstar fashion, the rock star

867
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: was getting into fashion. So Liam he had this new

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00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: label called Pretty Green. Okay, he was trying to hawk

869
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: it at all their shows and put it in all

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00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: their stuff and get the fans to bude. He started

871
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: down to siphen some of the huge audience. He's like,

872
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: if I can get them to buy this stuff, I'm

873
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: banking right. So No's like, what are you doing? You're

874
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: watering down the name or you're stupid anyway, so he

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00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: goes after him and U now, I quote this is

876
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: from Noel. I've never had enough of Oasis. Our own

877
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: relationship was never as bad as people made it out.

878
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like we weren't like Millie Vanilly what

879
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: that whatever that means, I don't know. It kind of

880
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: all started to unravel, if I'm being honest, when he

881
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: started his clothing label and demanded it in the Oasis

882
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: to a program that he'd be allowed to advertise it,

883
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: which I was against. I didn't think that it was

884
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: right for him to be flogging his gear to our fans,

885
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: and there was a massive row about it, and it

886
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: kind of went back and forth for a bed, as

887
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: I remember, and I said, all right, if you want

888
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: to advertise in the program, how much And he couldn't

889
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: get his head around that, so Noel's backstage arguing about

890
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: money with his brother in the fashion and his brother

891
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: it just erupts, right. He's like, and he was quite

892
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: violent at that point. There hadn't been any physical violence,

893
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: but it was kind of really like he hit him

894
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: with a cricket bat. But he's like that point, no virus,

895
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't that's underneath the bar exactly. So he's like,

896
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like it was a bit like

897
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: WWE wrestling, and he was like macho man, Randy Savage

898
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh yeah, and he had that

899
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: going on. It was like hell, and I'll never forget.

900
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Andy, who was sitting there. Andy is

901
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: one of the band members, I guess, and constantly how

902
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: many shoes he's gone on, not saying a word, and

903
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, now, you know what I mean, and

904
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: he kind of just storms out of the dressing room.

905
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad it ended like this. And on the way out,

906
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: he picked up a plum and he threw it across

907
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: the dressing room and he smashed against the wall. Part

908
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: of me wishes it did end like that. That would

909
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: have been a great headline. It did not end with

910
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: the plums and Yeah, he's just hucking fruit and well,

911
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: and what was this thing about how many pairs of shoes?

912
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was like it was from a quote,

913
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: and so I left it in. But he's just talking

914
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: about andy like he's got with a bunch of shoes.

915
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: It makes if you just try to follow his like

916
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: his quotes. He's just bouncing around. Done drugs, I think

917
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit. They are what you call an advertisement,

918
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: a cautionary tale for perhaps not doing so many goods.

919
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: All right, So now Liam gets ready, he's gonna leave

920
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: the dressing room after they fight about money and whatever else,

921
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: and he's getting embarrassed in front of the other people, right,

922
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: So Noel picks up the story again and then he

923
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: kind of leaves. He goes out the dressing room for

924
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: whatever reason. He went to his own dressing room, because

925
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: remember they have their own dressing Yeah, and he came

926
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: back with a guitar and he started wielding it like

927
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: an axe. No, I'm not kidding, and I'm making light

928
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: of it because it's kind of what I do. But

929
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: it was a real unnecessary violent act and he's swinging

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00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: the guitar around. He nearly took my face off with it.

931
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: So Noel was able to keep his face from meeting

932
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: the guitar, right, and he says, but he says something

933
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: about his brother's guitar playing, and then like really hit

934
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: a like a I don't know something inside Liam, because

935
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: Liam then flings the guitar, his guitar, his own guitar,

936
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: throws his own guitar back at Nol. Sorry at Nol,

937
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: Noel says, and what should you know a better? I'll

938
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: go with the eyewitness. There was an eyewitness and Evolve

939
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 1: party and they said, naturally it missed and landed next

940
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: to his feet instead. So what does NOL do? Well? Well,

941
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: according to that same eye witness, realizing Liam had mistakenly

942
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: thrown his own guitar, Noel looked down, shrugged, and then

943
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: stamped seven bells out of it until it resembled the

944
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: bottom of a hamster's cage. So can't I just can't

945
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: with these two. The guitar has now become an avatar

946
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: for the band, right right, And so this is back

947
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: to Nol. It ended up on the floor and I

948
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: put it out of its misery and then I said, well, look,

949
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean there were people who were in the band

950
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: looking the other way. It wasn't even a big dressing room.

951
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, I'm out of here.

952
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: And at that point someone came in and said five minutes.

953
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, I kind of got in the car and

954
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: I sat there for five minutes and I just said

955
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: I can't do it anymore. So going back to that

956
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: same backstage eye witness, Yeah, Noel flicked the vs, walked

957
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: out the backstage area, got in a taxi and went home.

958
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: So okay, that was that guitar smash band broke getting

959
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: good times over right. Yeah, they're fought about money, and

960
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: now all the money training went off exactly, so the

961
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: battling gallaghers had finally killed their greatest success. Well and

962
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: all of the people that work for the band. That's

963
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: what people don't realize. Every big touring act is has

964
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: like a huge amount of employees and keep it running.

965
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: And when they either break up or they decide to

966
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: like call it quits like that, or someone gets hurt

967
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: and they break their heap and they can't or whatever.

968
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: And I think that's why a lot of like older

969
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: bands really keep chugging along because it's a it's a

970
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: whole business. Yeah, they really count for the whole family. Yeah,

971
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson ducks a lot about Yeah. Yeah, that's a

972
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: good example. Well, final word for this one, Elizabeth. Yes,

973
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: as Noel would explain himself, I quote, I've accepted it.

974
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a bastard. What can I say?

975
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: You know, a bit of a Oh okay, wow, we

976
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: can beat that, Elizabeth. I got one question for you

977
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: after all this, Yes, what is our ridiculous takeaway here?

978
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: Our ridiculous takeaway is please don't put your life in

979
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: the hands of a rock and roll band, to quote

980
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: the Brothers. So yeah, there you go. That's my ridiculous

981
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: takeaways everything I just said. Yeah, that's why I figured. Well,

982
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. You're welcome. You can find us

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00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: online if you'd like, at Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter

984
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: and Instagram. We are on the both, and you can

985
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 1: also email us at ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com.

986
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: You can hit us up on iHeart app. You leave

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Speaker 1: us a talk back. We enjoy those. Yes, Other than that,

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Speaker 1: just wish us well, yes, please and let me know

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton

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Speaker 1: and Zaron Burnett, produced and edited by Noel Gallagher's ghostwriter

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