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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.

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Speaker 2: Sit is Tuesday, January twentieth and a breaking story developing.

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Speaker 2: Just as we are getting in front of these microphones.

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Speaker 2: Actor Timothy Bussfield gets to go home. His court hearing

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Speaker 2: just wrapped up and the judge is going to let

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Speaker 2: him go home. The moment sent his wife Melissa Gilbert

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Speaker 2: to tears with that welcome to this episode of Amy

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Speaker 2: and TJ Again. Robes has only been I mean literally

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Speaker 2: less than ten minutes ago he wrapped this hearing. But

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Speaker 2: it was something to see Melissa Gilbert, this iconic TV actress,

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Speaker 2: sitting in a courtroom just a couple of rows behind

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Speaker 2: her husband, accused of heinous crimes. But yes, he is

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Speaker 2: going to get to go I.

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Speaker 3: Actually was brought to tears watching Melissa Gilbert break down

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Speaker 3: when she heard the judge say that Timmathy Busfield was

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Speaker 3: going to get to go home. He didn't even put

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Speaker 3: travel restrictions on him and let him leave on his

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Speaker 3: own recognissance, so didn't even set some high dollar amount

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Speaker 3: for him to be able to leave. It was the

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Speaker 3: best case scenario for Timothy Busfield and Melissa Gilbert. The

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Speaker 3: judge's decision was what they were hoping for most likely

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Speaker 3: what they were praying for, and so to see all

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Speaker 3: of that emotion come out after a two plus hour hearing,

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Speaker 3: which was honestly riveting the entire time. It was remarkable

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Speaker 3: what we learned and what we heard in court today.

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Speaker 1: Because we yes, folks to explain here.

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Speaker 2: You know the case by now, Timothy Busfield being accused

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Speaker 2: by a couple of boys who worked on a show

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Speaker 2: that he directed, of inappropriate contact with a minor or.

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Speaker 2: The charges they're going after. He did turn himself in

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Speaker 2: in Albuquerque, New Mexico. That's where the movie excuse me,

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Speaker 2: the show was being shot. That's why they are there.

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Speaker 2: He has been in jail rope since last week. It

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Speaker 2: was kind of a surprise to a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: The prosecution called this man an absolute danger and that

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Speaker 2: can't be a child anywhere in his proximity that could

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Speaker 2: be safe.

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Speaker 3: The prosecutor was arguing today in court that there were

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Speaker 3: no conditions that the court could set for his release

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Speaker 3: that would guarantee the safety.

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Speaker 4: Of the community.

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Speaker 3: I mean they went in hard and they said there

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Speaker 3: was no GPS could say that he wasn't with or

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Speaker 3: around children. And interestingly, they used the support that Timothy

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Speaker 3: Bussfield brought to court with him and used it against him.

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Speaker 1: We both just.

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Speaker 2: Rolled our eyes kind of in a way. We'll explain

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Speaker 2: and we'll get into what the defense said, what the

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Speaker 2: prosecution said, but first we'll just tell you, yes, what

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Speaker 2: the judge says. So, yes, the headline is Timothy Busfield

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Speaker 2: is getting to go home. He said he combined all

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Speaker 2: of these factors and did not agree with the prosecution

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Speaker 2: that there are no conditions that can be set that

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Speaker 2: can keep the community safe.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense.

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Speaker 2: There's no evidence that shows there's any pattern of abusing

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Speaker 2: his power or a pattern of grooming children. Those are

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Speaker 2: two major things the judge hit on.

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Speaker 3: That's right, because yes, prior allegations were brought up, but

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Speaker 3: as it was pointed out, these were all post pubescent women,

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Speaker 3: so there's no pattern of him abusing or any allegations

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Speaker 1: So how is he.

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Speaker 2: Supposed to consider that? It makes sense what the judge

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Speaker 2: was saying. But you combine that with zero criminal history.

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Speaker 2: The other allegations you just mentioned, they're not vetted by

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Speaker 2: the criminal justice system, said, so it's difficult to give

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Speaker 2: weight to all that. So ultimately, the judge said he

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Speaker 2: can go out under his own recognizance to set the

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Speaker 2: scene here. It was set for two o'clock local time,

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Speaker 2: four o'clock on the East coast this afternoon, and they

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Speaker 2: told us straight up it's going to be to each

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Speaker 2: side gets an hour. Each side had a chance to

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Speaker 2: bring witnesses, but even before we started they he came

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Speaker 2: into court right on time, at four o'clock eastern and

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Speaker 2: Rosy's still wearing that same orange ot. But he looked tired, disheveled.

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Speaker 2: He looked exhausted.

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Speaker 3: Disheveled is the word that I came to mind when

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Speaker 3: I saw him walk in. He was a far cry

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Speaker 2: And he was doing a little penguin walk. He was shackled, folks,

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Speaker 2: He was shackled at his hands and his feet, and

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Speaker 4: Like a penguin. Yeah, that's a really good description.

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Speaker 1: Ought that was an extraordinary as well. And what would

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Speaker 2: His family, Melissa was sitting how many two rows back, Melissa.

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Speaker 3: Was two rows back, and the camera it was pretty

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Speaker 3: remarkable to have the camera. We saw Timothy the entire time.

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Speaker 3: We saw Melissa a lot of the time. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: she was flanked with at least a dozen folks who

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Speaker 3: Gilbert and Timothy Bussfield. And having that show of support

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Speaker 3: was significant. It was visual for sure.

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Speaker 2: And again he brought eighty seven letters of support with

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Speaker 2: him and that ended up playing a role in this

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Speaker 2: two hour hearing. Now, the prosecution got up first. She

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Speaker 2: rebuttal later on. But she went a good forty forty

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Speaker 2: he was. But Rope some things we hadn't heard before.

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Speaker 2: They came out, why we're here in the first place,

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Speaker 2: Why the parents even thought to ask their kids. I

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Speaker 2: hadn't heard this detail before, but it was kind of vague.

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Speaker 2: They said the parents were tagged in a social media

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Speaker 2: post about Tim Busfill's history, and that's why they decided

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Speaker 2: to ask their kids.

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Speaker 3: That is what they claim, And they said they asked

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Speaker 3: their kids, has Tim ever inappropriately touched you? And the

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Speaker 3: kids said no, And so they did acknowledge that. The

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Speaker 3: prosecution's office did acknowledge that. But then they said, and

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Speaker 3: they made a very big point to say that that

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Speaker 3: been sexually abused, that it does and they're typically are

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Speaker 3: delays in them acknowledging it. And then she was pointing

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Speaker 3: And so that's why she was saying these were valid,

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Speaker 3: and they were specific and detailed ultimately, even though initially

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that part about them telling a therapist and

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Speaker 2: the defense side, and it's a much different story continuing

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Speaker 2: with the prosecution here. And again, I'm familiar with Loadi Young,

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Speaker 2: this French actress, and she was this was a big

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Speaker 2: deal and they highly promoted this show. By the way,

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Speaker 2: The Cleaning Lady four seasons these days ain't bad to

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Speaker 2: be on broadcast network. The Cleaning Lady, she was the

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Speaker 2: lead of this show. Now Robes the prosecutor kind of

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Speaker 2: threw her her under the bus a little bit, and

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Speaker 2: she seemed a little annoyed.

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Speaker 3: Oh, she absolutely seemed annoyed. Elie Young, she said, was

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Speaker 3: not compliant with this investigation. Those were the words she used.

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Speaker 3: And she said that she was and had been close

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Speaker 3: to the family. And we will hear later and have

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Speaker 3: heard that Timothy Busfield has actually referenced Young telling him

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Speaker 3: something about the parents that would be in the defense's favor,

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Speaker 3: not in the prosecutions.

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Speaker 2: Her name came up in that police report where he

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Speaker 2: said he had contacted her and set up an interview

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Speaker 2: and it was set and then the day before were

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Speaker 2: she doesn't want anything to do with this. Well it

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Speaker 2: sounded like this again. But she the boys played her

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Speaker 2: the prosecutors how close she was she vacationed with really close.

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Speaker 1: With the family.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and the kids were on the show for three seasons.

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Speaker 2: This is a lot of time. These folks probably did

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Speaker 2: it really close?

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Speaker 3: Yes, and according to the bus Field camp, she is

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Speaker 4: Told Busfield that.

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Speaker 3: She overheard when the parents found out that their children

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Speaker 3: were not going to be picked up for season four.

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Speaker 3: She said that basically she heard the mom say, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna have his ass, Timothy Bussfield's ass.

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Speaker 2: What is just interesting that this actress is dead set

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Speaker 1: Now more about the boys here and robes.

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Speaker 2: This was a little, i say, confusing, but I kept

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Speaker 2: and this is all they got. But there was a

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Speaker 2: and they told the therapist and then they told it

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Speaker 2: was a confusing story. I'll be honest, it was a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was confusing because they were She was

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Speaker 3: they were ever alone with Timothy Vussfield, but that this

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Speaker 4: So that was definitely puzzling to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she you know what, she she was the only

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Speaker 5: Like she was really saying things as if, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: Was saying, actually I didn't think and you didn't either.

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Speaker 3: It seems like bolster her position. And yet she was

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Speaker 3: her some of the points she was making because I

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Speaker 4: Favor, not to the prosecution's favor.

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Speaker 2: But she did spend some time, and we did learn

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Speaker 2: a couple of things here about some past allegations, and

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Speaker 2: we did learn robes. I hadn't seen this anywhere, that

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Speaker 2: he settled a civil lawsuit with someone that came forward

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Speaker 2: to accuse him. Yeah, years and years ago. This is

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Speaker 3: I believe the woman at the time was I say woman.

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Speaker 3: But at seventeen, she brought up several allegations that, again

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Speaker 3: the judge ultimately pointed out, were not vetted. So they

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Speaker 3: weren't prosecuted, there were no police reports, there was no trial,

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Speaker 3: so there's no way you can just say okay. And

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Speaker 3: she detailed a seventeen year old we had already heard

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Speaker 3: about the sixteen year old, that again was from thirty

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Speaker 3: years ago. And then she mentioned a twenty eight year

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Speaker 3: old woman as well.

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Speaker 1: He claimed that was a consensual He.

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Speaker 4: Claimed it was consensual.

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Speaker 3: But her point was, all of these narratives described a

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Speaker 3: similar pattern of just sexual contact.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't sexual assault or sexual abuse.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't any allegations of any sexual acts taking place

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Speaker 3: other than fondling or touching, and so she's saying this

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Speaker 3: was a pattern. But again, it was a little puzzling

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Speaker 3: because these were all sixteen seventeen. And I'm not taking

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Speaker 3: away any of those alleged victims experiences, but it's very

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Speaker 3: different when you're talking about a seven year old boy

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Speaker 3: or an eight year old boy.

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Speaker 2: To my point, she was trying to connect dots, and

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Speaker 1: Eighty seven letters.

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't have done this, and so forth. That sounds

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Speaker 1: That he's a bad dude.

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Speaker 3: She was saying she actually used these eighty seven letters

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Speaker 4: I would let my children be around him.

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Speaker 3: The prosecution claimed that that proved how powerful he is,

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Speaker 4: That he's dangerous. I was scratching my hat on that one.

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Speaker 2: What was the point here that she did say it

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Speaker 4: They know him, they worked with it.

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Speaker 1: We are we've been doing this. This is the prosecution

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Speaker 4: The defensi's point. Yes he has a presumption of innocence.

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Speaker 1: She's called them idiots.

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Speaker 6: And yes, and Busfields attorney is the first thing he

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Speaker 4: You're looking at him, and he's innocent. That's what our

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Speaker 3: The prosecution is acting as if he's already been convicted.

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Speaker 3: And I actually was so glad the defense attorney said this,

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Speaker 4: The same thing. I was like, what's happening right now?

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Speaker 2: And she had two defense attorneys to get up there

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Speaker 2: other when he said it. An arrest warrant is an

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Speaker 2: Don't hold it against him because you put out an

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Speaker 4: And he said it was three and a half days,

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Speaker 3: Yes, look at when the arrest warrant was issued Friday night,

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Speaker 3: It's basically to determine what you're sexually attracted to. So

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Speaker 3: he was like, I told him to do that. He

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Speaker 3: It was the police's responsibility to arrest him, yeah, not

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Speaker 3: for him to turn himself in.

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Speaker 2: Never heard attorney put that way. That's it's not on

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Speaker 2: him when you put an arrest warn out. But the defense,

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Speaker 2: like we said, they were the only ones to put

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Speaker 2: it was possibly an effective witness. Will tell you who

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Speaker 2: recontinue here on Amy and TJ will wrap up with

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Speaker 2: what the defense was saying today. In the Timothy Bussfiel

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Speaker 2: both sides put on evidence, the judge said that, yes,

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Speaker 2: One witness on the stand today, Robes, it was the

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Speaker 2: Pretty effective.

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Speaker 3: Yes, lead director of photography on the cleaning Lady been

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Speaker 4: He's also a father. Pointed that out.

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Speaker 3: So he said that he was with Timothy Bussfield on

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Speaker 3: set one hundred percent of the time. He said, it

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Speaker 3: is not possible that inappropriate sexual contact happened at the

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Speaker 2: Well, he said it was impossible for them to be alone.

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Speaker 2: He said, it's impossible that those kids were alone. That

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Speaker 2: I believe the prosecutor got up there and said, well

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Speaker 2: So they are acknowledging the prosecution even during this thing

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Speaker 2: that yep, the abuse happened, but it was when people

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Speaker 3: That's still a head scratcher because Allen Cardio said, this

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Speaker 4: I never left his side.

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Speaker 2: We've happened to be on movie sets and you see

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Speaker 3: We said there were a minimum of ten people with

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Speaker 4: At all times, including their parents.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of the parents, Alan Cardillo had a lot

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Speaker 3: him creepy. He used that word, and he said that

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Speaker 3: And he said that he thought it was creepy that

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Speaker 3: and he thought that was not He just said, I

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Speaker 4: To force a child to hug.

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Speaker 3: An adult or someone that they don't want to do,

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Speaker 3: He said, I noted that and noticed it, and he

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Speaker 2: He also said he never mentioned this to anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I think that was the only point that the prosecution

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Speaker 2: But at that point he was an effective witness. The

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Speaker 2: She finished strong, but she made the point just flat

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Speaker 4: He has no power.

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Speaker 3: She said, you're worried about him being a danger, don't

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Speaker 3: He was removed from a rom com that was about

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Speaker 3: and Order SVU episode. That was like, she was, like,

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Speaker 1: And that's you hear that, And that's sad.

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Speaker 4: Parents eighty five percent. I didn't realize this.

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Speaker 4: If eighty five percent.

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Speaker 3: Of that goes to the family, that's the law, or

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Speaker 4: That was very effective to hear that.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, the strong clothes I'm talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're not saying they're no victims in this case. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: They were victimized by their own parents, and they are

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Speaker 3: saying that those parents coached them. Those parents wanted revenge

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Speaker 4: How she's like.

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Speaker 3: She's like, no, these parents and both of them were

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Speaker 2: Because they have to do it. Because the father who

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Speaker 2: she can't keep up with her scheming. They have no

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Speaker 2: The conditions he's, like we said, released on his own recognizance.

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Speaker 2: He has to report to some pre trial services. He

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Speaker 2: this is the only thing. Only recourse we got now

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Speaker 2: cases like this robes unless someone would come out and

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Speaker 2: we cover that story as much and they say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was all made up.

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Speaker 1: It's a lie.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever get the stain of an accusation of

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Speaker 2: pedophilia of touching a little boy and appropriately you get

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Speaker 2: that all again to work again?

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Speaker 1: Can you?

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Speaker 4: He will never work again?

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Speaker 3: And I did also think it was interesting that the

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Speaker 3: defense played a voicemail and said there was another where

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Speaker 3: people who were used in.

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Speaker 4: The affidavit for the prosecution.

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Speaker 3: They said that their statements were taken out of contexts

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Speaker 3: were used against.

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Speaker 4: Them when they wanted to.

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Speaker 3: They were upset with how their comments were misused by

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Speaker 3: the prosecution to try and paint Timothy Bussfield in a

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Speaker 3: negative light. That was interesting to me as well, and

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Speaker 3: certainly drew into question what went into creating this narrative

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Speaker 3: about Timothy Busfield and what the allegations are.

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Speaker 4: So this was a.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating afternoon, but the headline Timothy Bussfield is going home

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Speaker 3: as he awaits the next steps in this very very

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Speaker 3: salacious I guess I don't even want to say trial

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Speaker 3: because we don't know that it's going to go to trial,

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Speaker 3: but certainly these charges that he is facing, and so

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Speaker 3: we will continue to monitor this story. It is developing,

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Speaker 3: and we appreciate you as always for listening.

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Speaker 4: To us, I mean, Amy Roboch alongside DJ Holmes.

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Speaker 5: We will