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Speaker 1: Your two weeks about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shooler and Matt Williamson here with you

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on this Wednesday, as we

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Speaker 2: continue to kind of put a bow on the regular season,

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, in the super Bowl that was, and

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Speaker 2: kind of just balancing walking that tightrope Stevie Rayvaughan of

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Speaker 2: wrapping up the season's proceedings, getting ready for the combine

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Speaker 2: and free agency, in the draft and all those good things.

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Speaker 2: It really is two weeks from today will be into

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Speaker 2: Day three in Indianapolis. So that that's kind of the

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Speaker 2: offseason is a lot of hurry up and wait. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of kind of slow period and then

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Speaker 2: it gets there and it's it's it's frantic, and then

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Speaker 2: you wait again, and then it's frantic and then you

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Speaker 2: and then you wait again. Uh. But we are obviously

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Speaker 2: excited for the combine. We'll have as we will probably

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Speaker 2: every day some prospect talk and some things like that.

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Speaker 2: We will Matt for the first time in a while,

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Speaker 2: probably the first time since the end of the NFL

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Speaker 2: regular season. Uh, we'll have a little fantasy football conversation.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've got some fun I want to make this.

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Speaker 2: You know this. You and I have laughed before about

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Speaker 2: like I, you and Dale were true football guys. You know,

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Speaker 2: you were in the scouting world and then into media.

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Speaker 2: Dale has been covering teams, real reporter and journalists.

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Speaker 3: On the ground. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I cut my teeth in this business producing. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: being being behind the scenes guy starting out in Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: and getting a couple on air opportunities occasionally, and then

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Speaker 2: out here and doing some on air stuff and mostly producing.

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Speaker 2: So you know this, and you've laughed because like you

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Speaker 2: and Dale, we're just.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's been around the Steelers way longer.

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Speaker 2: Than I was, and you guys were kind of a

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Speaker 2: lot of freelance kind of jazz you know to your program.

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Speaker 2: And I told you I still want to do that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I just want to tell you, hey, we're playing in

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Speaker 2: the key of a min but like I still have

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Speaker 2: that producer brain of always trying to think of kind

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Speaker 2: of frame things and that I want to do a

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Speaker 2: would you rather segment? You know, on a lot of Wednesdays,

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Speaker 2: throughout the off season and we'll repurpose it today. I've

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Speaker 2: got a would you rather an hour number two where

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Speaker 2: it's just going to be draft and combine related scenarios

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Speaker 2: and things like that of what would you rather have happen?

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Speaker 2: So a lot to get to today in a lot

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Speaker 2: of different kind of avenues. But I wanted to start

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Speaker 2: with the final power rankings of this twenty five twenty

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Speaker 2: six post Super Bowl power rankings.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, I would say, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: finals the right word, or is this what we think

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Speaker 3: of the teams as we speak or I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: I think this is what we think of the teams

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Speaker 2: as we sit here today.

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Speaker 3: When you say I don't think these are projection for

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Speaker 3: next show year, they are. I mean, lot of these

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Speaker 2: And you know, you know exactly right, So this is

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Speaker 2: kind of a where you're they ended up where you

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Speaker 2: ended up. Okay, And I shouldn't say surprising, because as

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Speaker 2: you and I have said every time we've done this exercise,

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Speaker 2: the teams at the bottom of the list. You can

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Speaker 2: make arguments in any in any which direction. But I

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Speaker 2: was surprised we're using NFL dot COM's power rankings here

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Speaker 2: as we do. They have the Jets at thirty two,

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Speaker 2: the Browns at thirty one, and the Raiders at thirty.

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Speaker 2: Now again, I'm not like, Wow, it's shocking that the

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Speaker 3: Thirty and not theirty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's some massive difference, But I am a

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Speaker 2: little surprised that it's not the Raiders at thirty two.

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Speaker 3: So I bet and my hunch is that these power

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Speaker 3: you know, like I'd rather be the Raiders head coach

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Speaker 3: Now, I think the Raiders had the work first year,

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Speaker 3: The draft order could do this project for us. So

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Speaker 3: my haunches the author kind of factored in where the

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Speaker 2: And I think the Raiders hired the right coach, yeah,

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Speaker 2: think Ashton genty and certainly brock Bowers are very very capable.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, I mean, you know you're sitting first. Overall,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna draft Nanda Mendoza or at least if anyone's

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Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna be Mendozo.

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Speaker 3: Where you look at like the other two teams, man,

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Speaker 3: Mean Fanning was a success, had a year. A couple

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get the Jets at thirty two now

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Speaker 2: that we're kind of thinking this out, like they say

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Speaker 3: I mean in terms of twenty two starters and you

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Speaker 3: know something like that. Yeah, and the fortunately they're tackles

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Speaker 3: and Garrett Wilson. They got a couple guys. But all

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Speaker 3: eight starters on defense. They're in a bad spot now.

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Speaker 3: They do have picks and the other thing I mentioned too,

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Speaker 3: on a lot of shows. Sounds like Max Crosby's going

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Speaker 3: and it's probably the right move. He's thirty or thirty one,

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Speaker 3: they're as we talked about, because the Steels hired their

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Speaker 3: he made chicken salad out, you know.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine. The Arizona Cardinals twenty years they.

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Speaker 3: Said they can't be too far off. But they've got

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Speaker 3: some better players. They do, but it's they're still a

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Speaker 2: And they feel like they're in quarterback purgatory as well.

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Speaker 3: And we've talked about it. I don't think Kyler is

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Speaker 2: I don't And there's no easy chance to door number two.

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Speaker 2: There's an easy door, get rid of Kyler and take

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Speaker 3: I mean probably who they play with. And I know

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Speaker 3: Brissette played well and could be back, but it's probably

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Speaker 3: there's not an avenue there for.

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Speaker 2: It's just completely luck out and strike lightning in a bottle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody and you might they may get have a

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Speaker 2: Right twenty eight The Giants.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I would have them way ahead of the rest.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm still I always get this wrong. Bullish is excited,

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Speaker 2: it's good. Yea fair economy is back. So I think

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Speaker 2: I'm less bullish on the Giants than the general populace.

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Speaker 2: But I certainly think they're in a better spot than

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Speaker 2: all those other teams that we mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Especially where they're at now. Again, I make no bones

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Speaker 3: about it. Jackson Dart's not for me, but he's better

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Speaker 3: But I mean, by these other teams, at least you

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Speaker 3: Harball will get a lot out of that defensive front.

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Speaker 3: Like they're they were really bad against the run, and

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Speaker 3: there's no excuse for that with Lawrence and you know

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Speaker 3: be maybe a five hundred team. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. The division's tricky, yeah, but I certainly

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Speaker 2: think they will be much better than four and thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Harball raises the floor a lot.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven. The Tennessee Titans, I like, I like where

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they put a good spot

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Speaker 2: I think they the combination of Sala and Dable. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: cam Ward not I was gonna say get him right,

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Speaker 2: not like there's anything wrong with them.

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Speaker 3: Up and down as a rookie in a tough environment.

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Speaker 2: And really help him take that second year step forward.

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Speaker 2: They've got some pieces on the offensive line, They've got

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Speaker 2: some pieces on the defensive line. They've got over one

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in projected salary cap space. I think

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Speaker 2: that of all the bad bad and we had this conversation,

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Speaker 3: Be my chants. Yeah, because I bet they add five

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Speaker 3: an obvious parallel with them in the Patriots. And by

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Speaker 3: no means my saying, oh, Titans are going Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: next year. Yeah, right, but the solid day ball ward

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Speaker 3: could be a facsimile of Rabel McDaniels. May. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's not the craziest thing that's that ever come out

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Twenty six the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but boy, a year ago they would have been

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Speaker 3: like six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I thought people were too ahead of themselves

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Speaker 3: on but their final four.

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Speaker 2: Team just to you know, the rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Just think about how we were talking about them one

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Speaker 3: year ago, or most people were talking about one year ago.

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Speaker 2: They went twelve and five last year, five and twelve

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Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, Bengals at twenty five, that's an interesting

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Speaker 2: one to me. I know, the defense is an albatross

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Speaker 3: I mean they have a quarterback, They really.

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Speaker 2: Have a quarterback, and some really nice wide receiver pieces too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I do I can't imagine a world where

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Speaker 3: they're like five or six win team.

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Speaker 2: Like the Dolphins are a spot ahead of them. I

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Speaker 2: think they're not even I think.

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Speaker 3: That's ludicrous out of the Dolphins, Like Dolphins are too high.

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Speaker 3: At twenty four, Dolphins would be behind the Giants and

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Speaker 3: only ahead of like Arizona group. Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 3: where they're at. I think that's fair, and there's an

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Speaker 3: argument that they could be thirty. I might rather be

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Speaker 3: the Raiders and the Dolphins right now. At least they

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Speaker 3: have a quarterback and less cap problems. Dolphins are a disaster.

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Speaker 3: Bengal shouldn't that low.

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Speaker 2: Dolphins should be pushing thirty on this. Yes, I mean

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Speaker 3: One note on the Bengals, I just happened to read

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That's what I say, is you look like you're

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Speaker 2: Sure is thirteen Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 2: Number eight the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Number seven Duh Bears Chicago Bears check in at number seven.

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Speaker 3: I think they got worse the coaching world.

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Speaker 2: I do too. I like Jim Leonard, but he's unproven.

440
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I forgot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a he's a rapid riser.

442
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean just a couple of years ago he was

444
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Speaker 2: at Wisconsin, you know, so, I mean he's a rapid riser.

445
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: He's clearly one of those up and comers. But it's

446
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: a lot of it's a lot of inexperienced coaches in

447
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 2: their role with an organization that's clearly sending a message

448
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 2: that it's Super Bowl or bust.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think Allen will always keep them super competitive,

450
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 3: but if if he falls off a little, their window

451
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Speaker 3: could start slamming Joddy.

452
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Speaker 2: You know number four, the AFC runner up Denver Broncos

453
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 2: checking in at number four makes sense.

454
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Speaker 3: I think that's great spot for him.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

456
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Speaker 3: I don't adore Nicks. I mean I think he's good.

457
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Speaker 3: I mean he's going to be the quarterback. I'm not

458
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Speaker 3: implying he should be replaced, but I remember doing like

459
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 3: a post mortem after they got eliminated. They don'tly have

460
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Speaker 3: any needs. They're hardly losing anything. I think they can

461
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Speaker 3: kind of like put the cherry on top and like

462
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: the tight end that you know, Sadik or somebody like that,

463
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 3: or one more receiver or Kenneth Walker, you know what

464
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Speaker 3: I mean, Like go get some shiny guy that touches

465
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Speaker 3: the ball, you know.

466
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Speaker 2: To throw into that mix. Yeah, certainly Number three the

467
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Speaker 2: New England Patriots.

468
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Speaker 3: I would have them lower.

469
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 2: I think I would too.

470
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Speaker 3: Not just because they got beat bad a couple of

471
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: days ago. The old line and past catcher situation is

472
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 3: still totally It reminds me of like where would we

473
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 3: have Washington last year at this time three four five?

474
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: And it's a little artificial you're walking before you can

475
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: run or running before you can walk type thing.

476
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Speaker 2: The offensive line is an issue that's going to be

477
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Speaker 2: hard to fix from where they're drafting. And Stefan Diggs,

478
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't think is going to do what he did

479
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Speaker 2: this season again at his.

480
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Speaker 3: Own Just the past catchers across the board, they don't

481
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 3: have a great tight end. You know, there are many

482
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks I'd pick ahead of May in terms of who

483
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 3: we're building around from here. That's very valuable, you know,

484
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Speaker 3: But the defense is good.

485
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Speaker 2: I might have a few spots lower, but I understand that.

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I better doubt right.

487
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Speaker 2: And then Matt, no surprise here. I think the teams

488
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: that you and I had one and two probably since

489
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 2: about Thanksgiving, the Rams checking it to the Seahawks checking

490
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Speaker 2: it one.

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Speaker 3: Yep, did a post wartem on Seattle, though. I mean

492
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Speaker 3: they Seed's a free agent, cups Old, so they're gonna

493
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Speaker 3: probably need another receiver. Walker is a free agent. Maybe

494
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: they'll franchise them, maybe they won't. Running back, they still

495
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: have the interior line issues, and they have three members

496
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Speaker 3: of secondary that are not their best guys, but they're

497
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: all basically starters who are all up and boy, mafe

498
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Speaker 3: the edge and you're gonna be pere re gunning for

499
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Speaker 3: you and you're in the first year.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, first place, schedule and all that stuff.

501
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't this this applies a little bit to

502
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 3: Houston as well. But history shows defense is a lot

503
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Speaker 3: less predictable year to year than offense, which makes sense

504
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: because usually great offensesquarterback's good, you know, or the OFFENSI

505
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: play caller quarterback combination is really good. And I don't

506
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Speaker 3: think Seattle's defense is going to be like middle of

507
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: the pack or Houston's will be middle of the pack.

508
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: But what's the chances it's as good? Probably slim.

509
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: And even if you go from the second best defense

510
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL to tenth or eleventh.

511
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 3: Well, now you're the fourth best team in the.

512
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 2: League exactly right, Which, hey, that's the nature. That's what

513
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: a salary is supposed to do. It's so hard to

514
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: go back, absolutely, but I'm cool with them being there.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're really good shit, absolutely, and they have

516
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Speaker 3: a great history of drafting.

517
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Speaker 2: That they do that they do. There's our final power

518
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Speaker 2: rankings post Super Bowl edition here on the Drive. Will

519
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Speaker 2: turn our attention to the NFL Draft when we return.

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Speaker 2: Just just getting started here on a Wednesday, West Huoler,

521
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

522
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your team's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

524
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back here on the Drive. After a beefy opening segment.

526
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Speaker 3: Matt, oh, yeah, bringing heavy.

527
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Speaker 2: That's feeling like the regular season. We do want to

528
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Speaker 2: talk to some NFL Draft top one hundred prospects. Here

529
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Speaker 2: from our guy, Dame Brugler of course of the Athletic.

530
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Speaker 3: If you was texting with him yesterday, you were a

531
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Speaker 3: real good chance he'll be sitting down with us to

532
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Speaker 3: combine and maybe doing a little bit more.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, I would love love to

534
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Speaker 2: just have him on the show over the phone at

535
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Speaker 2: some point to maybe he's a little bit of a

536
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Speaker 2: busy guy, I know it. Maybe maybe even like we

537
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Speaker 2: could talk to him at the combine and then maybe

538
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: just again, like sometime in April or something eating up

539
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Speaker 2: to the draft, because I mean, he all credit to him.

540
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Speaker 2: I like to think you were I mean, I'm not

541
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Speaker 2: gonna lie about this. You were the one that put

542
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Speaker 2: me on to Dame Brugler. Yeah, before he was with

543
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Speaker 2: the Athletic, when he was still cutting his teeth and

544
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Speaker 2: coming up in the industry. And now he's ten.

545
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Speaker 3: Years ago, he wasn't a house yeah name, and he's

546
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Speaker 3: a younger guy. You know.

547
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Speaker 2: The first time I went to the combine with you

548
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Speaker 2: and Dale, I mean, he was like the I had

549
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: no clue who he was, and you were like, we

550
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: got to talk to this guy, Dame b Like was

551
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: he with the Ringer at that point.

552
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think what his career history.

553
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Speaker 2: Was, but anyways, yeah, he was. He's one of those

554
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Speaker 2: guys that if you've listened to our coverage at the

555
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: Combine you've heard his name before. He is. He's like

556
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: the next Kiper mcshag. He's he's younger. He's been doing

557
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: this draft stuff for a while and he's going to

558
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: keep doing it for a long time.

559
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Speaker 3: He did some consulting with NFL teams for draft stuff

560
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: as well, and yeah, he's as good as there is

561
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: an as a draft analyst out there, and everyone, well

562
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Speaker 3: maybe not everyone, but the beast that he puts out

563
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Speaker 3: it's the most thorough.

564
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Speaker 2: And it's like a five hundred page thesis on everyone

565
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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

566
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Speaker 3: Center field in eighth grade, you know, like the kinds

567
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Speaker 3: of crazy stuff like that.

568
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Speaker 2: So yeah, his lunch lady said that he used to

569
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Speaker 2: stick his cheese sticks and his peanut butter and jelly

570
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: sandwich or whatever.

571
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: Really digs deep. One thing about Dane and I haven't

572
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: heard him say it this year, but I regularly listened

573
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Speaker 3: to his podcast too, is speaking of calm buying, Is

574
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Speaker 3: he his Combine goal is to say no to nobody

575
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Speaker 3: all the requests he gets. If I can go there

576
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Speaker 3: for that many days and not have to tell anyone

577
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: to everyone, I can get everyone yes and get sit

578
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: down with everyone that asks I did my job.

579
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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

580
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: I mean that's hard to do.

581
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Speaker 2: He is like the prettiest girl at the pageant. Yeah,

582
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean you this time of year, he's it's hilarious.

583
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: He'll be on radio row with the Buffalo Bill's crew

584
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: and he stands up to like after he's done with

585
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: his hit, and like four other people are like, dang,

586
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: can we have with us? Come on it?

587
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: And his whole goal is just to not tell anyone.

588
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: Know, well, good thing for us. He's Matt Williamson's in

589
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: coots with him, and well, since yeah, we'll get to

590
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: talk with him at some point for sure. His post

591
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: super Bowl top one hundred prospect rankings. So this is

592
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Speaker 2: not a mock draft, just top one hundred rankings. I

593
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: thought this would be good to kind of kick around for.

594
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Speaker 2: We don't need to spend time. I'm on every single

595
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Speaker 2: one of.

596
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: These guys eighteen or nineteen, right, But that's not what

597
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: it's about.

598
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: It's more so just getting familiar with these names that

599
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to hear so much about over

600
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Speaker 2: the next few months super quick.

601
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Speaker 3: So I know you listened to his most recent podcasts

602
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: where they're talking about the top one hundred. But what's harder.

603
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: I just want people to know this because I've done both.

604
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: He's done both. It's way easier to do this for

605
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: the Steelers, you know, it's much harder to do it

606
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: just generically. Oh, you know this wide receiver versus center.

607
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: You know, you and I when we're doing our mock

608
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: drafts for the Steelers, we're not taking an edge rusher

609
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: in the first round, right right, it's completely off the board.

610
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: You know, you're not worried about drafting a center. You're

611
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: not worried about some of these things and scheme.

612
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: You know, like, well, this guy's a really good player,

613
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: but he only doesn't fit what we do. You know

614
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: that back in the day when three four, four to

615
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: three was such a big deal, well, Joey Porter wasn't

616
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Speaker 3: for everyone, so he got in the third round, right,

617
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: you know, Jason Gilden, those type of dudes.

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Speaker 2: Great example. Number one one on his big board is

619
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Speaker 2: Rvel Reese, the linebacker at Ohio State. Mister do it

620
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: all think Michael Parsons.

621
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Speaker 3: So I'm trying to familiarize this list is a great

622
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Speaker 3: way to familiarize it yourself with new names too, not

623
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Speaker 3: that Reese is a new game. Yeah, because they have

624
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Speaker 3: a little drop down on each player and it's like

625
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: three or four sentences, you know, just give me the thumb, nail,

626
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: give me the elevator pitch. And I liked one thing

627
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: that I went through and I read all one hundred

628
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: in the last twenty four hours, which doesn't take you long.

629
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Speaker 3: It takes you a half hour at most. But I

630
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: liked his comparison. Everyone's like, oh, this guy's Michael Parsons.

631
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 3: That's pretty rare, but yes he has. He mentioned that

632
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: he's a mixture of Michaeh. Parson, somewhere between Michaeh. Parsons

633
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: and Jalen Walker. Yeah, Atlanta's first round pick, who's an

634
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: exceptional player.

635
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Speaker 2: By the way, you'll take that guy.

636
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Mendoza at two, which I don't want to say was

638
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: surprising to me, but I like it because I know

639
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: some people in their top one hundred have him a

640
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: little bit further down.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, like.

642
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Speaker 2: He's gonna be the he's going one he's a quarterback

643
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: act but at number two, I think says a lot

644
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: from Dane here having him number two on just overall

645
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: big board. Jeremiah Love, the Notre Dame running back you

646
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: and I have said a few times, might be the

647
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: best player in this class.

648
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: I think he has a final grades on these guys yet,

649
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have and see combine. But I think in

650
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: the right up he said he's gonna have Love ahead

651
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: of Genti.

652
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: Head of Ashton Genti from last year, which.

653
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: Is pretty high praise. It sure is out to Bijean

654
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Speaker 3: ahead of both as a prospect.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so too. Yeah, I do.

656
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs at four, another Ohio State guy chess piece

657
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Speaker 2: on the board there, Dane says he's one of the

658
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: better safeties I've ever evaluated.

659
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's weird. I mean, two of the top

660
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: five prospects. No matter what our safetyes and running back

661
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: usually it's a tackle, it's you know.

662
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: And number five another off and I know RVL Reese

663
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: is a different type, but another off ball linebacker and

664
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: Sonny Styles out of Ohio State. So three of his

665
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: top five on his big board or Ohio State defense

666
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: fenceman yeah yeah, and linebacker, linebacker, safety, running back, all

667
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: in the.

668
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: Top ten, not premium position type. Draft.

669
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: Number six is a guy that I've discussed with you

670
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: plenty throughout the season. Texas Tech's David Bailey, the edge rusher, violent,

671
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: just a just a violent dude. And he started his

672
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: career at Stanford for you know, big money bag to

673
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, and Stanford is one of those programs like

674
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: they don't just take it because you're a good football player.

675
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: I think David Bailey in those meetings and everything real

676
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: smart between the ears and is going to interview and

677
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: do contraes four two.

678
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it definitely gives you less bust potential when

679
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: you're screwed your head screwed on straight, yes, and you're

680
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: smart man.

681
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: Soord Delaye, I think it's this is another one of

682
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: those I've been trying to get an answer on. Is

683
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: it Delayne or Delayey, But I think it's delay the

684
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: corner out of LSU. Number seven Spencer another guy that

685
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: you know with my.

686
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: A lot of corners with length, A lot of corners.

687
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: A lot of corners with length that are interesting. In

688
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 2: this one, corners tackles edge rushers I feel like are

689
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: very intriguing.

690
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, in this class. I meant to say this before

691
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: we even started, too, but Dane has seventeen wide receivers

692
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: in this top one hundred, and the majority of them

693
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: in the top fifty, which is super steel irrelevant. There's

694
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: only three interior oh linemen, you know, so that's not

695
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: a strength of this draft. But I mean that doesn't

696
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: mean you're not getting guys in the fourth and fifth

697
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: rounds aren't, you know, decent prospects, but there's not a

698
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: lot of those. The wide receiver is the one that

699
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: really stood out of the number of them, and a

700
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: lot of them are high.

701
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: That feels like that's been a trend for the last

702
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: the last few drafts.

703
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

704
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: Well yeah, Number eight, first offensive tackle on his board,

705
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: first offensive lineman on his board, Spencer Vanu out of Utah.

706
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: Number nine is Reuben Bain, junior second edge rusher here

707
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: of course from the national runner up Miami Hurricanes. And

708
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: then number ten another Ohio state. So he's got four

709
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: Buckeyes in the top ten. It's crazy. Carnell Tate first

710
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: wide receiver, tenth overall.

711
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: I mentioned that there's a lot of receivers than there are.

712
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: He thinks there's the top three receivers are Tate, Tyson,

713
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: and Lemon Lemon, depending which scheme style you want. Lemon's

714
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: a little more slot than those guys. But he did

715
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: say he had a higher grade on Tech McMillan than

716
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: any of them. But close, but close, I mean, but

717
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: they certainly aren't the neighbors Harrison Chase level. But they're

718
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: really good prospects.

719
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: It reminds me a little bit of last year where

720
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: same thing. There were a handful of really good wide

721
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: receiver prospects, but not that Jamar Chase. You know, top

722
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: five pick number eleven, a little bit lower than you

723
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: see in most places. Francis MAUI goa.

724
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that did seem low to me. Pull back to

725
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: curtain of I did a mock draft that'll come out

726
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: on Steelers dot Com and Max Max and pursued it.

727
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: Are doing it with us too.

728
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that whenever it goes like I.

729
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: Had him going higher than much higher than that.

730
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: Danes reasoning. Danes reasoning is he thinks he might be

731
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: a guard in the NFL.

732
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: I've heard that.

733
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: That was his most recent podcast. He compared to Zach Martin,

734
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: like effective tackle, sure, but he could be a generational guard.

735
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

736
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: Twelve Jordan Tyson, wide receiver out of Arizona State, who

737
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: you know, I really like. I just he makes those

738
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: wow body contorting George Pickens type catches. Yes. Thirteen Vega

739
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: Ione guard out of Penn State. That's his first true

740
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: interior offensive line.

741
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: It was he gushing about him on the podcast.

742
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: He really was really really like right fourteen, as you

743
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: mentioned Makai Lemon, I knew.

744
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: They were all super close bunch together.

745
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: Those gives him, gives him some Amon Ross Saint Brown comparisons.

746
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: And on the podcast he had a good point. He's like,

747
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: first off, when he when Lemon gets drafted twelve oh

748
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: or fifteen overall, he should send a fruit basket. The

749
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: same brown, same school, same body type, mostly slot. But

750
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: Dane's reservation was doesn't mean he will be though, you know, like,

751
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: let's not just assume this guy is gonna catch one

752
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: hundred balls five straight years, you know, right, But he's

753
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: a really good prospect, right, and he could be very

754
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: much in the Steelers mix.

755
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: He certainly could. Let's mention a couple more of those

756
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: other guys because he's got some offensive tackles and some

757
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: edge rushers here, you know, Ketdrick Fall, Caden Proctor, a

758
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: keen Messador, and that's not the Steelers territory in the

759
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: first round no one.

760
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: Thing I did notice though, is there's more tackles from

761
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: like fifteen to thirty five than their Yeah, yeah, there

762
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: was a lot like some of the playoff teams might actually,

763
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: like the Patriots might get a tackle or you.

764
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: Know, which is normally the complete opposite or a complete

765
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: inverse of what it typically is.

766
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 3: Now. They're not Jonathan Ogden coming out, but they're first

767
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: round got.

768
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: First round talents. Uh Kenyon Sadik, the freaked tight end

769
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: from Oregon that we've mentioned. He's got him at pick twenty.

770
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: That feels like it could be a real nice sweetener

771
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: for one of these Super Bowl contending teams on the

772
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: back end of the first round.

773
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: I wonder if even like the Chiefs would consider him

774
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: a ten or you know, I would understand it.

775
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: Casey Concepcion, the wide receiver out of Texas A and

776
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: M at twenty two. Denzel Boston, who I'm really warm into,

777
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Washington at twenty five.

778
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: I think there's a real legit chance he's the Steelers

779
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: first round pick.

780
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: I think he might be the one that has the

781
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: highest percentage like Vegas audits at this point. H twenty seven.

782
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: Omark Cooper Junior. If you don't remember him, you will

783
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: know him, the wide receiver from Indiana who made that

784
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: ridiculous circus catch against Penn State to win Indiana that game.

785
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: He's rising up draft boards quickly.

786
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: I think that's the highest anyone's had him. But that's

787
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: not gonna be uncommon.

788
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: I don't think Caleb Blomo, the other Utah tackle at thirty.

789
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: Let's see here CJ. Allen off ball linebacker from Georgia

790
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: that we've discussed.

791
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: Ball linebackers thirty two.

792
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: And then this is what's real interesting to me, this

793
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: kind of range of guys in his early thirties that

794
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: could certainly be available in the early twenties. Peter Woods

795
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle from Clemson. Yeah, Ty Simpson, who obviously

796
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: everyone knows, quarterback from Alabama. Christian Miller, defensive tackle from Georgia.

797
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: He's got at thirty seven. Those are I think all

798
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: potential keep an eye on for the Steelers type guys.

799
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: Yes, one other name that not you're going to name

800
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: all of them, but the defensive tackle from Florida who

801
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 3: ripped up a senior ball boy. He Dane at him

802
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 3: higher than on any list I had seen yet too.

803
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: Caleb Banks Banks six six, three thirty five.

804
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm excited to talk to Max about him a little

805
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: bit because he missed almost the entire year with injury.

806
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: But there's you could see a ton of ability there.

807
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: I think that's spot on. Well, we'll have a couple

808
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: of Gators to talk to. Uh yeah, to talk to

809
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 2: Max Starks about a couple, Just a couple more quickly

810
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: before we get to break. Jeremy Bernard, Alabama wide receiver.

811
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: He checks in at forty five.

812
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: I'd like h a lot too. I mean it's like

813
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: a the second second round guy. I mean he really

814
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: is like that Chris. God wouldn't feel about him just

815
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of bus potential there.

816
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: Chris Brazil, the Tennessee wide receiver at forty six.

817
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: He's rare because he's like six' five long. Strider but

818
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: Those tennessee guys run like two. Routes.

819
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 2: Yes Eli stower's tight end From. Vanderbilt he had three

820
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: tight ends in in his top one hundred HERE i

821
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: think at forty. Eight Malachi Fields Notre dame wide receiver

822
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: at forty. Nine, yeah, Yeah Chris, Bell louisville wide receiver

823
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: at fifty. Three just kind of reiterating your point about

824
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: how many wide receivers are in this. Conversation Lee, hunter

825
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle From Texas tech THAT i really. Like

826
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: he's at number. Sixty that was.

827
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: Lower THAN i expected to see him in the Same, yeah.

828
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: BUT i kind of. Liked he's a guy THAT i

829
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: would love if he's there in the second round for

830
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: The steelers as a. POTENTIAL i would love to have

831
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: him on an. Option he'd be more.

832
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: Of a knows, here, yes which is. FINE i think

833
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: that's kind of what you're looking. For the run stuffing

834
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: stuff is not a problem at, all not at.

835
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: All Antonio williams wide receiver out Of clemson at sixty,

836
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: One Ted hurst wide receiver out Of Georgia state at sixty.

837
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: Two there are a lot of wide. Receivers Elijah surrat

838
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: the Other indiana wide receiver at sixty. Five Josiah trotter

839
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: at sixty. Six Jeremiah trotter's son started his career AT

840
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: wvu and then transferred To. Missouri he's an interesting one

841
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: that we should talk about at some. Point Kyle, lewis

842
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: the pitt linebacker who will likely be one of those

843
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 2: Safety nichols in me, too if he's.

844
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: Able to do.

845
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: That he's able to play that role and not set

846
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 2: on playing. Linebacker he's at seventy on the. List Brennan,

847
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: Thompson mississippi state wide receiver at seventy, Four Zachariah, Branch

848
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: georgia wide receiver at seventy.

849
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: Five thompson is Who dane thinks will be the fastest guys. Combine,

850
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: Okay i'm pretty sure that's that's the receivers.

851
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: TALKING i like. That Garrett, NUSSMEYER qb three at eighty

852
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: two here on this, List so he's got.

853
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: Probably about right because he's not doing position value and

854
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: he's not guessing where.

855
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: They're, play just best. Players michael trig the tight end

856
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: From baylor WHO i think could be the diamond in

857
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: the rough of this entire draft at ninety. One we'll

858
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: talk about him more at some. Point Reggie, Virgil Texas

859
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: tech wide receiver at ninety. Four Bryce Lance North dakota

860
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: state wide receiver at ninety. Nine SO i mean in

861
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: the top.

862
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: Tree lance's, Brother Trey lance's, brother and he turned down

863
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 3: a lot of money From big ten schools to stick,

864
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: there to stay. There, yeah he's an interesting.

865
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: Player so just in that top one, hundred what DID

866
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 2: i list ten wide.

867
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: Receivers it's seventeen of them.

868
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: In the top one. Hundred.

869
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: Lot, yeah, yeah you said, that it was seventeen of.

870
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: Them it's a LONG i, mean you're gonna get. ONE

871
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: a conversation for a different. Day BUT i could understand

872
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 3: going into the draft and not have signed a big

873
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: time free agent because that's not a great place to

874
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: shop and you take one in the first round and

875
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: the third. ROUND i, mean always fish where the, water

876
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: where the fish you're, at you know WHAT i. Mean

877
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: in the, DRAFT i mean it's a big. THING i

878
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: Thought Kevin colbert was exceptional with that of setting up

879
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: things so that you could fish in the correct waters

880
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: on draft. Day it's a deep wide receiver, draft but

881
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: we're definitely getting.

882
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: One so we're not making that a priority in free.

883
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: Agency yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah But i'd love to do

884
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: both at wide.

885
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: Out we will talk more about all this as we

886
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: continue to get closer and closer to the combine and

887
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: ultimately THE Nfl draft In. April last break of the

888
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: First hour here will follow up on some of this

889
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: when we Return West Shooler Matt. Williamson it as The

890
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: Drive Steelers Nation radio on The Steelers Audio, network your tunes.

891
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

892
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: The black And Goal Steelers Nation.

893
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: Radio so aside From Dane, brugler another one of these

894
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: up and coming draft guys that has really made a

895
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: name for himself over the last five years or, So Trevor. Sikama,

896
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: Oh trevor's. Great we really Like. Trevor maybe he was

897
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: the one who was with The ringer at first THAT

898
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: i got was thinking about With, DANE i.

899
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: Don't know his. History he's tied in with The Tampa Bay.

900
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: Bucks now he's in pro football focus.

901
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: From the, Time, yes high.

902
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: Energy he sat down with us two or three top

903
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: years in a. Row now Two i'll definitely grab.

904
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: Him good dude and a barbecue. Officionado SO i always

905
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: like picking his brain about because you, KNOW i like

906
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 2: throwing stuff on the smoker into that into that field

907
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: and he him AND i always you, know during the

908
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: during the, commercials like, Well i'll ask him a quick,

909
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: question what have you been doing about? This and, uh

910
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: he put out his quarterback rankings and updates and strengths and. Weaknesses,

911
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: yes and.

912
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: He's doing position by position because running back came out.

913
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: TODAY i assume receive we're going. Tomorrow we'll keep it

914
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: on just a handful of. Him it's not like thirty.

915
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: Others, yes it's the top. Guys. Yeah and, obviously as

916
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: you can, imagine he's Got mendoza at, one no shocker,

917
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: there and he's Got Ty simpson at. Two SIM i

918
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: don't think that's a. SHOCKER i certainly don't Think Ty

919
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: simpson will be EVERYBODY'S qb two absolutely by the time

920
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: that we get To. April but for right, NOW i

921
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: totally get. It what was interesting to me about, This

922
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: matt is he's the first Person i've seen kind of

923
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: clearly Have Trinidad chamberless AS qb three in this.

924
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: Draft do we know he's going in the?

925
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: Draft they are STILL i.

926
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: Thought there was still like litigation or something going there is, Okay.

927
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: AND i don't want to get too deep into these

928
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: weeds with, you because you know this is a this

929
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: could be an hour long. Conversation but remember HOW i

930
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: told you AND tv a couple of weeks ago about

931
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: the guy that had like played in THE nba in

932
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: THE G league for three years and then was allowed

933
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: Like alabama got a court injunction that allowed him to

934
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: come back and play even though he had been gone

935
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: for three years and had played a couple games in

936
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: THE nba that actually just got struck. Down oh, Really

937
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: so this guy was allowed to come back For, alabama

938
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: played a couple, games and then it just got struck,

939
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: down and now he's out. Again, Okay SO i could

940
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: see something, where you, know Some mississippi judge who obviously

941
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: wants the best for old miss, football let's not get our,

942
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: less let's not live under a rock and act like

943
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 2: everyone's got integrity in this, world does something that makes

944
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: him quote unquote, eligible and then a month or two,

945
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: later SOME ncaaa lawyer comes in and strikes it. Down

946
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: i'm THINKING i.

947
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: Would think at some, point you need the league needs to. Know,

948
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: yes he needs to, KNOW i mean, yes let alone

949
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: the college. Program side, NOTE i just saw the head you,

950
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: know like when you go to THE nfl page ON,

951
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: espn there's all those like little bull of points on the. Right,

952
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: yeah one of them was someone was granted his ninth

953
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: year of. Eligibility DID i read that?

954
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: Right, yes a linebacker from Ninth nevada or something sometimes.

955
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 3: Wasn't a huge.

956
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: School or he's gonna be twenty seven years old playing

957
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: against eighteen and nineteen year. Old it's, ridiculous you know,

958
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: again that's another one that we. Know you should get

959
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: five years of. Eligibility throw the red shirt stuff out the.

960
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: Window all you get five, years do what you.

961
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: Want if you want to.

962
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: Play all, five, Great if you want to go three

963
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: and go to THE, nfl. Awesome if you want a

964
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: red shirt for a year and you get five, years that's.

965
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: It where to?

966
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: Go, Yeah Trinidad chamberless not on THE nfl combine list

967
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: that came out today.

968
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 3: Though that did come out. Today M, okay interesting they,

969
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: tend BUT i just found there's late additions.

970
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: Too oh, absolutely if he if his agent rings up

971
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: and says he wants to be, there they'll. HAVE i

972
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: just found that interesting that he's Got chambless at three

973
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: And nuts at, four because THAT'S i think we've it's

974
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: been pretty chalky so. Far Of mendoza one, Obviously simpson,

975
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: TWO nus. Three this is the First i've seen with

976
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: With chamberless.

977
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 3: Element the LITTLE i, Know chambless is really the only

978
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: one that could Battle simpson for. TWO i think so

979
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: just What i've, seen What i've, read et.

980
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: CETERA i, mean, again you never know what happens at

981
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: the combine and all these different, things like someone could,

982
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: follow someone could fall in love With Carson, beck someone

983
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: could someone could you, know reminisce and get nostalgic With Garrett.

984
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Nussmeyer you. Know, yeah BUT i think that that's starting

985
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: to look like the.

986
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: Kids, yeah you, know we'll, see we'll.

987
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: See this is a shorty to kind of get us

988
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: back on. Schedule our number, Two, MATT i want to

989
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: do a little fantasy football focus with. You you sent

990
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: me a very, interesting uh fantasy article, yesterday and it's

991
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: been two, MONTHS i think since we've done anything fantasy football.

992
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: RELATED i know that this is the very but, hey

993
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: we got nothing butt time. Here we'll get into some

994
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: would you Rather we'll get into some of your, tweets

995
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: all that good stuff in our number Two West Yeler Matt.

996
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: Williamson halfway home on the, Drive It's Steelers Nation radio

997
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: on The Steelers Audio. Network