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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gerdusky, where

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Speaker 1: I try to give you the numbers behind the narrative.

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Speaker 1: This is episode twelve, and I want to remind all

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Speaker 1: a difference. I almost said politics and podcasts, but that's

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Speaker 1: okay because I make a lot of You know, this

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Speaker 1: is just how I talk. In the nineteen ninety hit

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Speaker 1: film Ghost Whoopi Goldberg looks at Demi Moore and says, Molly,

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Speaker 1: you endanger girl. Well, a series of new polls have

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Speaker 1: come out on the how Americans feel the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: and well they're in danger. According to the NBC News

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Speaker 1: poll that was released on Sunday, only seven percent of

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Speaker 1: Americans have a very positive rating of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 1: Mind you that the nation of Russia right now has

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Speaker 1: a three percent very positive ratings, So Democrats are twice

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Speaker 1: as more likely to be popular with American voters as

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Speaker 1: the aggressor in a European war. There are veneer diseases

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Speaker 1: And it gets worse for Democrats. When they ask them

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Speaker 1: who they prefer to run Congress, forty seven percent of

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Speaker 1: and five percent undecided. And you may think, well, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. I mean that Democrats have a point lead

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Speaker 1: is substantially lower than the last time Trump was in office.

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Speaker 1: At this time. In April twenty seventeen, in the same

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Speaker 1: NBC News poll, they found the Democrats had a four

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Speaker 1: June that number for Democratic that lead for Democrats had

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Speaker 1: We saw that coming, and we don't really see that

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Speaker 1: coming the way it did right now. Some other headlines

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Speaker 1: from polls that you may not be aware of is

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Speaker 1: public say that Trump is bringing the right kind of

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Speaker 1: change more than the wrong change on issues like the economy, immigration,

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Speaker 1: complained by the mainstream media constantly. More Americans say he's

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Speaker 1: from the NBC newsporpt. Thirty six percent of Americans say

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Speaker 1: that they identify as part of the MAGA movement. Then

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Speaker 1: maybe you're saying they're saying thirty percent. That's not high,

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Speaker 1: it's not a majority. Well, for the first time ever,

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Speaker 1: there are more people who say they're part of the

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Speaker 1: this underscores the problem Democrats have when they call them

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Speaker 1: all extremists. You're likely to know someone in the Maga

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Speaker 1: It was the only one that I know of publicly

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Speaker 1: There is no safe place to rest your eyes. Pulling aside,

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Speaker 1: there's also hard numbers that are really going to be

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Speaker 1: a hard pill for Democrats to swallow. In February, when

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Speaker 1: Speaking of hard numbers, everything that David Shore. David Shore

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Speaker 1: David Shore found that among white voters, regardless if they

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Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton won eighty five percent of

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris would have won the popular vote and the

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Speaker 1: help build civilization that we cannot in innately just create civilization.

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Speaker 1: We need women for that role, and it is that

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Speaker 1: kind of marriage, for lack of a better word, of

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Speaker 1: the two sexes that makes things prosperous and good. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think about these things a lot, and

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Speaker 1: I think what happens if that is raw from you

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Speaker 1: when it is told that you know, one, those kinds

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Speaker 1: of jobs don't exist that much anymore, but two or

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Speaker 1: they're harder to find, or two or you're being outpriced

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Speaker 1: by low wage workers from the rest of the world

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Speaker 1: or machines or whatever, and then you're kind of denied

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Speaker 1: the life experiences, having sex, having partying, having friends, getting married,

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Speaker 1: and having children. Those are huge, huge indicators of who

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Speaker 1: you'll be and what you'll do. And I guess a

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Speaker 1: lot of feelings you'll have about politics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think you're right again. This goes back

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Speaker 3: to my point of you're running for helcyon day that

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Speaker 3: is just no longer here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do hear you know somebody when top Gun

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Speaker 1: came out, you brought that up. When top Gun came out,

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Speaker 1: one of my employees, who's twenty three twenty two at

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Speaker 1: the time, sat there and said to me, it made

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Speaker 1: me miss an America I never lived through. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, Wow, that's wild. That's a big thing because

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Speaker 1: I did live through part of it, and I felt

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Speaker 1: like you did too. I forgot that you hadn't done it.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about an eighty twenty issue.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about someone said to me

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Speaker 1: they're thinking about running for office as a Democrat in

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Speaker 1: a red state. And then I said, do you feel

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Speaker 1: about trans women in men's sports or trying to trans

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Speaker 1: women in women's sports? And they said to me, I

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Speaker 1: don't care about it. And I go, that's the wrong answer.

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Speaker 1: I don't Democrats stop just throwing themselves on grenades when

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Speaker 1: it comes to these eighty twenty issues.

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Speaker 3: You know, I got to tell you something, Ryan, I

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Speaker 3: being from the South, I have a lot of being black,

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Speaker 3: A lot of my family of Democrats. A lot of

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Speaker 3: people I know who are white are Democrats.

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Speaker 2: I don't know a single person who supports this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know a single person who supports this.

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Speaker 3: And it's not about being a I'm not offended by

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Speaker 3: anyone who's trans like that. It's like, I'm a If

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Speaker 3: that's what you want to do, hey, more power to you.

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Speaker 3: That's like, I'm not bothered by that. I'm very comfortable

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Speaker 3: with who the hell I am, and I feel like

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Speaker 3: when you are, you're not bothered by people who just

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Speaker 3: are different. But I think we do have an obligation

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Speaker 3: to protect I just had a daughter. If my daughter

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Speaker 3: decided she wanted to place side or run track or

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Speaker 3: do whatever other athletic have, whatever athletic experience, I want

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Speaker 3: her to be rested, to have the assurance that she's

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Speaker 3: going to compete against other girls, and it's going to

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Speaker 3: be fair. A trans woman, biological male now identifies as

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Speaker 3: a woman will still have the biological physical features and

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Speaker 3: traits of a man. You cannot change that. No matter

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Speaker 3: how much medication you're on. It doesn't matter with surgical

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Speaker 3: procedures you have to alter your physical outward aesthetics, You're.

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Speaker 2: Still the same.

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Speaker 3: And so for most people, they say, look, this isn't

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Speaker 3: about discriminating against anyone. It is going to always be

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Speaker 3: an unfair advantage. How is that fair to the girl?

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Speaker 3: And I think you have this cohort of democratic activists

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Speaker 3: and some within the leadership ranks who just do not

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Speaker 3: seem to understand that or want to acknowledge that, because

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Speaker 3: to them, to say that some truth is to discriminate

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Speaker 3: against someone, and I don't think that's the case at all.

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Speaker 1: Pre and post election with all the Democrats, you know,

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Speaker 1: was there a change the ones you are on TV

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Speaker 1: with or are the ones you would meet in regular life?

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Speaker 1: Was there is there a change of them saying something's wrong?

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Speaker 1: Or are they like no, no, no, it's just our

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Speaker 1: voters didn't show up and we were going to get

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Speaker 1: it right next time and the screw was to go

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Speaker 1: head first. Or is there like somebody like we should

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Speaker 1: I mean your Van Jones saying some things are smart,

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Speaker 1: but like most of them, I don't see it. Are

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Speaker 1: they saying anything privately that you've heard.

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Speaker 2: Van Van is?

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Speaker 3: We were just on TV together and one of ours,

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Speaker 3: he's so smart. Yeah, when he said, look, you know

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Speaker 3: we're in trouble Chuck Roach. Do you know Chuck roacha

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Speaker 3: from Texas Democratic Strategy?

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Speaker 1: Yes, they do, Yeah, he is.

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Speaker 3: And I love Chuck saying though Ryan and shout out

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Speaker 3: to Chuck. He's been saying since last year, we have

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Speaker 3: a problem. I've been on panels with Chuck where he's

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Speaker 3: just saying he may not win this thing because the

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Speaker 3: messaging is wrong. We're not communicating correctly on the right issues.

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Speaker 2: We're too far to the left, l certain things.

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Speaker 3: People don't support or believe this stuff, especially people of color.

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Speaker 3: He's been saying that, and no one's been listening with

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Speaker 3: that said, I'm not convinced Ryan that a lot of Democrats,

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Speaker 3: particularly women the men, are different.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the women, even when I speak with them.

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Speaker 3: In green rooms, not all of them, but a lot

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Speaker 3: of them, they don't seem to get why they lost.

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Speaker 3: And what I hear is that people wouldn't support Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris because she's a black woman. And I'm sure there

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Speaker 3: are some idiots out there who have those views that

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Speaker 3: we all know that, but I don't think that's representative

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Speaker 3: of most.

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Speaker 2: People in this country.

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Speaker 3: They will say that Donald Trump played into the fears

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Speaker 3: of misogyny or racism, or they'll say, you know, black

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Speaker 3: men don't want to support a strong black woman, or

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Speaker 3: Hispanics are.

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Speaker 2: Bigoted towards me. I mean, I've heard a lot of

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Speaker 2: these things in my.

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Speaker 3: Contra I have yet to hear a realization that, you

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Speaker 3: know what, our policy positions are not in syncret where

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Speaker 3: most people are who are to the center, even if

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Speaker 3: they're to the left, they're to the center most people,

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Speaker 3: and I have not heard that from anyone except for

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Speaker 3: mostly the guys, and may be a handful of women

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Speaker 3: two or three, but the vast majority. I've heard everything else.

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Speaker 3: For why they lost then the realization that their policy

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Speaker 3: positions are just wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because that would because they would believe,

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Speaker 1: they would believe that a black man would not vote

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Speaker 1: for a black woman, but voted for a white woman.

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Speaker 1: They voted for Hillary Clinton, and the same Hispanics voted

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Speaker 1: for Barack Obama, so they voted for a black candidate before.

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Speaker 1: They will not marry. They still are on this whole

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris around the most flawless campaign, imagine them. It's ludicrous,

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Speaker 1: which is insane thing. I want to ask you one

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Speaker 1: last question because I have you for a little bit

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Speaker 1: more time. You work for the Trump administration. In Trump

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Speaker 1: forty five yep, first term? What what do you seem

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Speaker 1: different in this term? Is better? Is it worse? That

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Speaker 1: you can see from the outside.

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Speaker 3: I mean what I see different this time is Trump

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Speaker 3: definitely has the experience he's already served once he stayed

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Speaker 3: engaged and involved in the political process once he left office.

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Speaker 3: And so you certainly see a heightened sense of awareness

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Speaker 3: of the bureaucratic process and how to get things done.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that I would say that I wish

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Speaker 3: we would do better and we still have time. And

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Speaker 3: I just said this one saying in last night I

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Speaker 3: applaud Eline Musk and the individuals he's brought on via

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Speaker 3: DOGE and what they're trying to tackle.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important.

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Speaker 3: Thirty six trillion dollars in debt bricks right now, spearheaded

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Speaker 3: by China. They are pulling in more countries, more developing countries,

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Speaker 3: which their objective is to weaken the dollar, which has

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Speaker 3: been we can give for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: As you already know, you've talked about this.

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Speaker 3: So we have some global competitiveness in terms of our

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Speaker 3: commerce and economy.

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Speaker 1: We got to fix it.

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Speaker 3: I think bringing in Congress, Republicans control the House, control

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Speaker 3: the Senate, looking at the Clinton playbook of the nineties,

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Speaker 3: in my personal opinion you may disagree, Ryan, I think

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Speaker 3: is a smart, tactical way to do this. I think

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Speaker 3: it gives Republicans the opportunity to go back to their

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Speaker 3: districts to say that we're in charge, we're thinking about

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Speaker 3: how to do this, We're thinking about the implications in

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Speaker 3: terms of who we need to let go, why we

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Speaker 3: need to let them go, how we're going to let

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Speaker 3: them go. That feels confidence in my opinion. It also

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Speaker 3: gives Republicans who want to contest Democrats next year an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to say, I want to be a part of

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Speaker 3: cost saving measures, the same cost saving measures that you

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Speaker 3: have to do every single month in your own households,

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Speaker 3: of balancing your own budgets. We're going to do that

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Speaker 3: in Congress, and we're going to do it in a moved.

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Speaker 1: The problem with the Elon stuff is that is that

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Speaker 1: Congress is going to vote to give the money that

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Speaker 1: Elon just can Uh, So we're not going to save

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Speaker 1: almost anything. That's I mean, that's the big We've.

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Speaker 3: Already done this though, Yeah Clinton, Clinton with New Gingridge.

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget this.

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Speaker 3: That was the only time we balanced a budget in

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Speaker 3: this country was a Republican house working with a Democrat.

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Speaker 3: There is a playbook here. You mean to tell me

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Speaker 3: that Republicans who run everything can't balance a freaking budget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm can they? Yes? Will they? No? I mean,

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Speaker 1: like I mean, maybe can can they? Is there a

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Speaker 1: path to do it? Yes, they'd have to get Democrats

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Speaker 1: on board. But I besides, the only government program that

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Speaker 1: I think Democrats would support cutting is DOGE. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine them wanting to cut the military. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: would they cut. Honestly, what would Democrats want to cut?

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Speaker 1: They're not going to touch anything related to any kind

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Speaker 1: of health services. They would they would. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: fact that we ended transgender feminists plays in Afghanistan is

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Speaker 1: a war on democracy to them. Theyve literally they will

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Speaker 1: fight for every kind of penny that we have in BS.

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Speaker 3: But I think, though, Ryan, I think you could actually

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Speaker 3: get this out of the House. I think the bigger

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Speaker 3: fight will be in the Senate because, for obvious reasons,

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Speaker 3: I think you could potentially get a couple of Democratic

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Speaker 3: senators who are in very tight races Purple States to

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Speaker 3: vote for something like this that's cost saving. I think

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Speaker 3: the rest of it you probably have to do through

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Speaker 3: some type of executive action. I think the administration would

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Speaker 3: have to test us all the way to the Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court some things. To your point, I don't think you'd

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Speaker 3: get Democratic support. So then I would say to the President, look,

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Speaker 3: this is the best we could do. It'll take us

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Speaker 3: maybe three years to do it. We'll probably save a

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Speaker 3: couple hundred billion dollars. These other things we cannot do.

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Speaker 3: Let's try through EOS to accomplish it. We know we're

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Speaker 3: going to be contested through the legal process. Let's go

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Speaker 3: all the way to the Supreme Court to see how

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Speaker 3: much leeway Scotus will ultimately give us. That's the way

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Speaker 3: I would personally do this because right now what we're

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Speaker 3: seeing these all of these courts are knocking this down.

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Speaker 3: And I got to be honest, Ryan, if this goes

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Speaker 3: to the Supreme Court, were doge? I actually think they're

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Speaker 3: going to say, we get what you're trying to do,

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Speaker 3: but you have to get Congress involved in this becausion.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty clear on the.

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Speaker 1: On the power. No, I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 1: I think that they'll probably say okay to some of

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Speaker 1: the firings. I think they'll probably make the inroads on

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Speaker 1: the firings and then basically nothing else the contracts and

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Speaker 1: everything like that. That's what I personally think is that

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Speaker 1: that's the guy the firing.

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Speaker 3: But I think Trump could do this well. I think

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Speaker 3: he could do with other Republican presidents after Clinton, Bill,

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Speaker 3: George W. Bush, was not able to do and what

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Speaker 3: Trump wasn't even focused on in his first term, and

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Speaker 3: that is to leave a country where you have cut

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Speaker 3: the budget Bill Clinton, and we never bring this up.

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Speaker 3: That's why I keep bringing this up on Cinnam because

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Speaker 3: Democrats saying, this is that poor and what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Clinton fired three hundred and seventy seven thousand people all

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Speaker 2: across the government.

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Speaker 3: They keep saying, well, you're letting it go people who

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Speaker 3: care about their families.

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Speaker 2: No one said this stuff in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: This is ridiculous to me that there are arguments and

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Speaker 3: then to the point on terrorists, and I want to

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Speaker 3: bring this up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it is really really important.

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Speaker 3: What Trump is attempting to do after have I hate

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Speaker 3: the idea of notating I know a lot of Republicans like,

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Speaker 3: go oh oh, free trade, free trade. The idea of

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Speaker 3: free trade decimated the middle class, destroyed the middle class.

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Speaker 2: This idea that we're going to have.

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Speaker 3: Lower costs to produce goods as a net benefit to

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Speaker 3: the American worker, and that's somehow going to elevate the

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Speaker 3: rest belt.

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Speaker 2: It didn't pan out. It didn't pan out.

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Speaker 3: Because when manufacturers realize, hell, we can just shut down

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Speaker 3: factories completely in the US for these cheaper wages. And

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Speaker 3: so Trump's argument of saying, look, we're going to have

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Speaker 3: equal tariffs to the tariffs that are placed on us

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Speaker 3: by other countries will force some of these manufacturers say, well,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute here, we don't want to pay this,

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Speaker 3: so let's bring these jobs back to the United States.

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Speaker 3: Will it go back to pre ninety ninety level, probably not,

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Speaker 3: but if a fraction of that, Ryan, just imagine over

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Speaker 3: five to eight years what that will do to build

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Speaker 3: back communities across this country. And I'm a bit disappointed

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Speaker 3: that Trump has kind of been meandering on this issue.

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Speaker 3: He'll give a little to this, say okay, we're going.

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Speaker 2: To back off.

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Speaker 3: No, you have got to get these jobs back. What

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Speaker 3: the hell happens, Ryan, when China invades Taiwan, or China

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Speaker 3: does something crazy and we have to rely on China

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Speaker 3: for manufacturing, or they take over Taiwan, and Taiwan is

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Speaker 3: very critical for Chips as we know, and they say, well,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to just we're not going to sell

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Speaker 3: to the US anymore. Too much of our manufacturing and

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Speaker 3: production if you line on other people.

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Speaker 1: So I totally this is my last episode. I'd just

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Speaker 1: done this podcast. I just was on John Carney from Breitbart.

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Speaker 1: If the Pentagon's out there and said we're only going

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Speaker 1: to buy medicine Thailand, all that has made one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent of America. Guess what we will be building Thailand

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Speaker 1: al in America in a in a minute. I mean

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Speaker 1: it will happen overnight. And then if they sat there

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, let's make sure the government contract goes

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Speaker 1: to Akron, Ohio, or you know, Detroit, or you know

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Speaker 1: name some russ belltown has been destroyed by the WTO

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Speaker 1: or NAFTA, you would have a Aspirin factory hiring workers

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Speaker 1: in Akron, or in Allentown or in wherever, Detroit, Flint, wherever,

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Speaker 1: and you would have jobs again in the blink of

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Speaker 1: an eye, for a middle class and working class right.

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Speaker 3: And Democrats have said, well, so you're advocating for higher

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Speaker 3: prices with the potential promise of more jobs, And I

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Speaker 3: would say, well, actually, I personally believe you a seer reset.

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Speaker 3: I think products would ultimately start to drop based on competitiveness,

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Speaker 3: because if you start having various manufacturers producing similar goods

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Speaker 3: in the initial onset, you are going to have higher prices.

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest about that. But that's going to

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Speaker 3: going to lower itself over time. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: basic economics. And so I just don't understand why we

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Speaker 3: wouldn't advocate for this. And this is another thing. And

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Speaker 3: I said this to a Democrat on sin in last week.

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Speaker 3: I said, you guys talk so much about being this

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Speaker 3: this great bastion for people of color.

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Speaker 2: The democratic part of that.

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Speaker 3: Is, I said, but you don't recognize how much the

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Speaker 3: black middle class relied on manufacturing in this country.

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Speaker 2: And that was not an answer. I said, this made it.

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Speaker 2: So many communities that you.

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Speaker 3: Say you advocate for that have never recovered Ryan, They've

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Speaker 3: never recovered.

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Speaker 1: Man, how you look at Gary, Indiana? Now? Who would

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Speaker 1: want to live there? I mean? And that was like

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Speaker 1: the it's but it's not. You're right, You're one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent right. And on the prices thing, I can only

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Speaker 1: think of who gives a shit? One we built, we

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Speaker 1: buy toilet bowls for a million dollars for Iraq. And

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Speaker 1: two I mean, but it's the truth we do. No

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Speaker 1: one cares if the government spends money like that crap.

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Speaker 1: And two if you just cut then taxes and you

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Speaker 1: offer a tax because to these companies, and you make

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Speaker 1: it and you cut regulations for these companies, they save

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Speaker 1: money on the end, even if production costs are slightly

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Speaker 1: higher and no one's going to buy a twenty five

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Speaker 1: dollars think of aspirin. I mean, they're just now there's

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Speaker 1: there's a limit on market prices. Businesses already charge the

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Speaker 1: most they possibly can for what they're offering. They democrats

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Speaker 1: don't know anything about economics, and I you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm only on the edges, but I know more than

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Speaker 1: they do.

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Speaker 2: Where where can for.

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Speaker 1: Me that that's so?

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Speaker 3: Just quickly, I just want to say, so, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: want us to figure out how we're going to save

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Speaker 3: more with the government. Is it's impossible to continue moving

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Speaker 3: in the direction that we are. I'm really really worried

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Speaker 3: about bricks, and not even just bricks, even the European

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Speaker 3: Union to say, well, why does a dollar have to

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Speaker 3: be the world currency?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Ryan, when this stuff happens, and it's going.

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Speaker 3: To happen, we're not even prepared for this. And and

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Speaker 3: again on the tariffs front, yes, it is a strategic tool.

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Speaker 3: Do I think it would ultimately be long standing?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: But I would I would advise a president, you have

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Speaker 3: got to stay firm on this to get some manufacturing

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Speaker 3: back into this country. It would be a revitalization of

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Speaker 3: American workers that we have never seen, or we haven't

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Speaker 3: seen I would say in probably thirty forty years. There's

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to do it now. I just don't think

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Speaker 3: it's going to happen, and that's disappointing to me.

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Speaker 1: Sher Michael. This is about your Mia and Carroll's favorite

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Speaker 1: person and seeing it, and she tells me all the time,

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Speaker 1: She's like, sure Michael's on. You got to turn on

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Speaker 1: the TV. Cher Michael. Where can people go to follow

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Speaker 1: you on social media?

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Speaker 2: You can follow me.

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Speaker 3: On Instagram, Sure Michael, underscore, I think, and on X mister,

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Speaker 3: Sure Michael. Check out our new streaming platform we the

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for on this podcast, Sir Michael.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, bro.

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Speaker 2: Proud of you man. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we'll be right back after this. So on last

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Speaker 1: week's show, I promised you just started a question to

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Speaker 1: answer part of the where I'll be taking questions from

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Speaker 1: my listeners and answering them on air. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be part of the Q and

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Speaker 1: A Question. So they ask me anything, well, I'll talk

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Speaker 1: about stories, policy, data, anything. Email me Ryan at numbers

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Speaker 1: Game podcast dot com. That's plural, Ryan at numbers Game

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Speaker 1: podcast dot com and I could be answering your question

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Speaker 1: next week. So my first question I want to do

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Speaker 1: when they ask me anything segment. It comes from a

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Speaker 1: guy named Scott. He says, Hi, Ryan, my name is Scott.

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Speaker 1: I'm in my mid thirties. I consider myself a principled

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Speaker 1: and pragmatic conservative, open a compromise on almost anything if

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Speaker 1: it means progress in the right direction. My questions on

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Speaker 1: social Security. I know it's not electorally possible to campaign

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Speaker 1: on reforming social security right now, but I'm wondering what's

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Speaker 1: the numbers say about the sentiment among millennials and Gen

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Speaker 1: xers towards reforming social security and the near certainty that

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Speaker 1: it will not be available for us in its current

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Speaker 1: form by the time we reach retirement age. And if

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Speaker 1: those numbers don't exist, why not, and what might change them? Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question, Scott. It's a lot, but I'll

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Speaker 1: try to answer it pretty quickly and intact. First, the

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Speaker 1: idea of the Social Security is like there's a constant Social

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Speaker 1: Security that basically this money goes into a lock box,

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Speaker 1: it builds interests, and then we use it from the

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Speaker 1: money that we get and we work towards it. We

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Speaker 1: work towards social securities. What you'll hear, that's not really true. First,

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Speaker 1: there is no lock box. The idea of a lock

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Speaker 1: box has been floated for decades. Al Gore was made

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Speaker 1: a part of one of his main campaign themes back

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Speaker 1: in the year two thousand that he created a trust

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Speaker 1: fund to increase the amount of revenue basically either through

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Speaker 1: interest or through savings or through the market or something

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Speaker 1: or other. At the time, we were running about one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to two hundred billion dollars year surplus

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Speaker 1: with Social Security. That was a big missed opportunity. It's

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Speaker 1: still presented in Congress idea this a lock box Republican

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Speaker 1: Tim Wahlberg, Republican from Michigan, is proposed that I think

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Speaker 1: last last Congress. But there's no lock box for Social

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Speaker 1: Security to invest it wisely, so that way people can

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Speaker 1: cash out and it can make its own amount of money.

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Speaker 1: Australia does this by the way. Australia puts their money

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Speaker 1: into investments in their mineral program and it's a multi

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Speaker 1: trillion dollar retirement fund that they have successfully done. There

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Speaker 1: is a Social Security Trust Fund which is separate from

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Speaker 1: the government's general funds, but it's not reinvest in the

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Speaker 1: way that it could be to make it more solvent. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty the Supreme Court ruled in Flemings versus

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Speaker 1: Nestor that individuals have no contractual or property rights when

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Speaker 1: it comes to social security, meaning the government has every

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Speaker 1: right to alter and suspend benefits at any time for

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Speaker 1: individuals by their own will. You have absolutely no right

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Speaker 1: to it whatsoever. You're not paying into it. It is

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Speaker 1: a tax program. Ronald Reagan mentioned this in the Time

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Speaker 1: for Choosing speech, if you've ever listened to it, he's

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Speaker 1: talking about that that case. But unlike Medicare and Medicaid,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of solutions for social security. I mean

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Speaker 1: social security is Medicare and Medicaid are very very complicated.

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Speaker 1: Social Security is not as complicated, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people with a lot of different ideas, from creating

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Speaker 1: wealth funds to reducing benefits on high earning senior citizens

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Speaker 1: like oprah winfree why does she get a Social Security check?

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Speaker 1: Increasing tax thresholds increase in the retirement age. But your

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Speaker 1: question was not how do young people feel about social security?

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Speaker 1: I did not know this before I look this up,

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Speaker 1: But according to more than one pole for the Harris

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Speaker 1: Poll in twenty twenty four, God is not alone. Millennials

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Speaker 1: are the generation that are the most worried about social

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Speaker 1: security and the solvency of social Security. Now, Millennials are

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Speaker 1: some people still think that we're eighteen, but we're in

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Speaker 1: our early thirties to our early forties. Now percent of

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Speaker 1: millennials think that social Security will be in solvent by

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Speaker 1: the time that they received retirement age. Thirty six percent

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Speaker 1: of millennials believe that they will not get a dime

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Speaker 1: of social Security by the time they retire. A poll

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Speaker 1: collecting social security. Thirty seven percent say they don't believe

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Speaker 1: that they'll receive it when they retire, so matches basically

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Speaker 1: thirty six and thirty seven percent between the Harris Pole

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Speaker 1: think that it's going to be there. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: for a very big generation. The most popular idea over

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Speaker 1: all people for changing Social Security is increasing taxes on

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Speaker 1: high income individuals. That's actually not the most popular idea

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Speaker 1: among millennials. Only thirty nine percent of millennials favor increasing

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Speaker 1: taxes on the rich to pay for Social Security, either

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Speaker 1: because they see that their highest income years are ahead

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Speaker 1: But that's a big, big reason why seniors are the

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Speaker 1: most favor of increasing taxes to pay for Social Security,

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Speaker 1: which is not that surprising. A study by ARP and

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Speaker 1: the Chamber of Commerce looked at the idea of a

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Speaker 1: large package of trade offs, that being basically raising taxes,

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Speaker 1: raising the payroll tax by one percent, reducing benefits on

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Speaker 1: high income people, and that really brought support among everybody.

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Speaker 1: Eighty three percent of millennials favored this big, big trade off.

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Speaker 1: So it's possible by the polling that they do favor

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Speaker 1: somethingness that they're make it work electorally, it's much much

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Speaker 1: more difficult. It's one of these issues have been tried

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Speaker 1: for a long, long, long time, and I think the

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Speaker 1: only way we're going to get there is one a

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Speaker 1: crisis where they really can't pay for it, or two

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to have Republicans and Democrats hold

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Speaker 1: hands and jump up the cliff together and make a

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Speaker 1: broad change that everyone has to sit there and deal with,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully it's a smart one and we make the

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Speaker 1: program solvent for the future, because it's a very important

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Speaker 1: program as far as keeping seniors off the street and

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Speaker 1: keeping them, you know, in their homes. But that's the

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Speaker 1: only way I think we're going to do it. I

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Speaker 1: think we're going to do it when there's a real crisis,

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Speaker 1: when the rubber hits the road, or maybe in a

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Speaker 1: moment where everyone just breathes and you have you know,

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Speaker 1: AOC and Ted Cruise willing to work together. That's the

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Speaker 1: only way I could sit there and see this though.

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Speaker 1: I hope this was a good answer to your question.

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Speaker 1: If you have more questions, please once again email me

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Speaker 1: for next week. I would love to answer them and

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Speaker 1: thank you again for listening to this podcast Episode twelve.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so so much. Please like and subscribe

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