1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast. I'm Sahad, 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: a starmer. With my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. It is 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: everyone's favorite type of episode, mailbag episode where the fans 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: get to sound off, uh not. You know, it's optimism time, right, 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: So spring training is often so not a lot of 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: anger or frustration. We're past the Alex Bregman sadness, I think, 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: and and just kind of looking for the positives from 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: the fans and and you know the best time of 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: the year for that. So let's get to it. This one, 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: I guess isn't super positive since, yeah, what is the plan. 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: What Craik Counsel would call the injury rabbit hole? 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, what is the plan for second and third base? 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: If Nico and Shaw are unavailable for the Japan series? 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: So I'll give you a quick update on what we know. 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: So Nico looks really good. Nico. We've seen him throw 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: a ton, saw him doing long toss today. I've talked 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: to him quite a bit. He feels good, not gonna 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: push anything, not going to try and like, you know, 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: make it make it to Japan, just to make it 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: to Japan. But like I was saying last episode, they 22 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: may not have to put him on the IL because 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: there's this little bit of a loophole where you can 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: just have your thirty one guys that you bring and 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: then activate twenty six of them and nobody needs to 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: be sent down. Nobody needs to be put on the IL, 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: So he could be part of that five man group 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: if you want to avoid nil stint. But it sounds 29 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: like everything's on track, no setbacks there. Japan is not 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the goal. It doesn't sound like Arizona is, which is 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: where they open the US portion of the season. Right 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: with Shaw, it's you know, it sounds I would think 33 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: they want to get him in games, right. He is 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: doing a lot of he's through for the first time. 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: When I say through for the first time, I mean 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: he took grounders and through to bases on Monday. He 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: took Tuesday off and the plan is Wednesday. More of that. 38 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: I saw him like fielding and all that on on 39 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: one of the fields Tuesday. He likes to hit in 40 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: the cage. That's where he does his cage like his hitting. 41 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: So we haven't seen him out there but that's not abnormal. 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: That's kind of what he likes to do, is what 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: I was told, Like whether he was healthy, like one 44 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent or not, Like that's what he'd be doing. 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: Isn't he a little bit young to be dictating his 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: routine with that? 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle Tucker, I get it, Kyle Tucker. His routine 48 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: is so simple. You're never going to see him. Yeah, 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 2: he's like one of the best hitters in the game. 50 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Right, And well that's the thing. It's not he's not 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: going to ducate that. But no, But I mean you're 52 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: you're you're not wrong in that, Like this isn't remember 53 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: I think it was last year Hap was hurt, right, 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: had the hamstring and and he barely played any games, 55 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: and we're like, well, he's not going to have the 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: runway to get it to start the season. Is he 57 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: starting the season on the il? And we were like 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: bandying this about, like wondering, how's he how's he going 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: to have enough time? Well, he's a veteran. He doesn't need, 60 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, two weeks of games. He just needs to 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: make sure he's healthy, get out there and go play. 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: That's not going to be the like they want to 63 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: make sure he has a little bit of a runway 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Matt Shaw. So right now we're looking at a Japan 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: series that may not have Matt Shaw. Nico Horner. I 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: don't think that's the end of the world. It's two 67 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: games you need. You want to win all the games 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: you can. You gotta take it seriously, right, But everyone's 69 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: kind of in this spot. The Dodgers are already talking 70 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: about all these relievers that they have to kind of 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: slow play that have nixed and bruises and all these things. 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Michael kopec I think Evan Phillips, those guys may not 73 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: be playing in Japan. Right, So you don't want to, 74 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: like Council loves to say this, right, you don't want 75 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: to rush someone to get them ready for opening day, 76 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: especially this year we wented so much earlier and then 77 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: you lose them for three months of the season because 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: they came back too soon. Yes, it is important because 79 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: they're regular season games. Every game counts, but you're not 80 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: going to rush someone to be there just for that 81 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: early opening day. 82 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: I thought the answer was going to be that they're 83 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: going to clone John Birdie to play both positions. In money, 84 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: because Baseball Operations has sort of run out resources. 85 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: But that's interesting. I would imagine Bertie would be in 86 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: that mix. Nick I mean Nicky Lopez making this team. 87 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: So I think right now we're talking about forty man 88 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: spots too. Yeah, I think Vidal Bruhan, Gauge Workman, and 89 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: John Birdie probably have a leg up on Nicki Lopez, 90 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: right That would That's kind of what I've gathered. I 91 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't rule out Nicki Lopez just because he is a veteran, 92 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's going to be someone 93 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: that you have to add to the forty man in 94 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: order to not lose him. I don't know that yet, 95 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: and the others are all already on the forty man. 96 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: I would say, uh, you know, I'd say, like Birdie 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: gets one of those spots and then the other goes. 98 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: I think the other is a battle between Workmen and Bruhan. Bruhan, Uh, 99 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, more speed can add more to like a 100 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: little more versatile as far as he can play some 101 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: outfield spots, but they're trying to get Workmen too, different spots. 102 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: He can. They played him in the right field the 103 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: other day. Uh, he's a really good defender at third base. 104 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: Can play a little shortstop and he he has been 105 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: hitting in spring. I'm not going to take too much 106 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: away from it. Breuhan hit a home run on Tuesday. 107 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to take too much away from it. 108 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: But I think you kind of have to evaluate everything 109 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: when it is like this competition right between everyone, Like 110 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: what you have to evaluate? You have to evaluate it 111 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: on something. So how do you how do you decide 112 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: what what it is you're breaking down? But I just 113 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: think like you can't. You can't say it's you know, 114 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: we're going off last year or or anything like that 115 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: when it's when it's these like twenty twenty fifth, twenty 116 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: six people on the roster and workmen is a rule 117 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: five pick. If they like him enough, do they want 118 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: like are they going to keep him around all season? 119 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, but like you know, you have to 120 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: fit that. That's a that that's another decision that maybe 121 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: they can kick to us portion of opening Day. 122 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be pretty uh. 123 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: I know, the Dodgers pictures are always injured, so whatever, 124 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: but it's gonna be it's gonna be pretty dramatic if 125 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: if that is the case, if there's no Nico and 126 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: even though Matt Shaw is unproven, he's still like a 127 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: prospect name and kind of represents something going against you know, 128 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: this all time epic lineup. 129 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: Well, well, we'll see when you get. 130 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: There side right right, Yeah, exactly, you know what, And 131 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: this is another prospect that is opening some eyes in 132 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: spring training. Don't want to go overboard again in spring training. 133 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: All Contra is a legit prospect. Though, what do you 134 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: see as best worst case scenario for Kevin o'contra this season? 135 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: That is from sports. I couldn't put his his handle 136 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: on there because it was not appropriate for me to 137 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: put So that's it. 138 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Do you have a rigorous editing process? 139 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? So, uh best? And you know, here's what I 140 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: would say, like and and the council was asked about Contre. 141 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: He's been asked about al Contra quite a few times 142 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: since I got here, because he's he's looked good in games. 143 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: He's I think Jesse Rogers asked Mike Schuldt, the Padres manager, 144 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: about Contra because he hit that opposite field home run 145 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: with ease on Monday. And and you know when when 146 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: people do stuff like that, I don't care what time 147 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: of year it is, you know when you're twenty two 148 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: or whatever. He is it people talk about it, right. 149 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: He's a good defender, he's big, he's got a little 150 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: bit room to grow still as far as putting a muscle, 151 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: and he has this easy power in this insane upside. Uh, 152 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: he's an intriguing talent. Counsel was asked about today like 153 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: what is like does he need to play every day? 154 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: And he I liked his answer. He basically said, if 155 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: he has one hundred and fifty played appearances this year, 156 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: that's not good for his development. But does he need 157 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: to play every day all year? That probably not so 158 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: Essentially his answer is he's going to be playing every 159 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: day at Triple A at some point this season, and 160 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: he's also going to be up at some point this season, 161 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: and he in all likelihood when he's up, he's like 162 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: the backup outfielder, probably backup center fielder and things like that. 163 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: So he's going to help this team in some fashion 164 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: or be a part of this team in some fashion 165 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: at some point this season. But he needs to play regularly, 166 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: and that the best shot for that is Triple A. 167 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: We'll see when he comes up. It could be to 168 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: the start the season. I wouldn't completely rule it out. 169 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: I'd be a little surprised because it seems like they're 170 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: trying to get Bruhn as the backup centerfielder as well. 171 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's different ways to go about this. You 172 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: may not need a backup center fielder right away. You 173 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: could get away with you know, if if for some 174 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: if something happens to PCA in the middle of a game, 175 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: you can always put half there to get by and 176 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: then and then kind of uh and then call up 177 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: all contra as soon as possible or or whatever that 178 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: you need to do. Right there's there are other forty 179 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: man or non forty man guys that have been invited, 180 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: like Greg Allen, Travis Jankowski, that they may want to 181 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: add to the forty man Well, we'll see what they 182 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: do and how they handle that. But I don't know 183 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: if there's a best or way worst case. I think 184 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario is like injury or not playing 185 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: well at Triple A or not, or not getting up 186 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: to the big leagues, or just being stuck on the 187 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: bench for too long and not developing. Like those are 188 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: the bad scenarios. You want to know the best case 189 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: scenario for Kevin ol Kantra and I've been saying this 190 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: pretty much since they traded for him, because this is 191 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: what I hear from scouts is like a forty home 192 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: run center fielder that's one of the best, like that stuff. 193 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: That is the best case scenario. It's very unlikely he 194 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: reaches that ceiling, right, Like, that's what raw talents are. 195 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: But he's starting, it's starting to come together. So yes, 196 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: they still have like this excitement for him, and he's 197 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: kind of showing you like flashes of it. So he's 198 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: an exciting talent. I'm not predicting that he you know, 199 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: it all comes together for that, but the more he 200 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: shows me, the more I'm like, huh, maybe he can 201 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: be like this upside guy. I'll add this, Patrick, I 202 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: don't want to end it on a negative note, but 203 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot. Yeah, Yeah, we've talked a lot 204 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: about the budget and re signing Kyle Tucker. The more 205 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: you and I talk to people around the game, the 206 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: more it seems like that's just not going to happen, right, 207 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: like unless something changes with the way they behave And 208 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about like you know, the business side that 209 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: like it doesn't make sense. You're not spending forty forty 210 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: five million dollars a year to on one player when 211 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 1: when your budget is two hundred ten two hundred and 212 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: fifteen million, right, that's not that that's just a poor 213 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: allocation of resources. So makes it harder to trade someone 214 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: like Kevin o' contra when you kind of have to 215 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: look to the future as well and kind of say, 216 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: like who fills that spot? So Kevin oil contra could 217 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: be the starting right fielder in twenty twenty six, and 218 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: it may not be the way what fans want to hear, 219 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: but if he's good, maybe it's not like the worst 220 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: thing in the world. I think you should be frustrated by, 221 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: you know, a two ten to fifteen budget, but that 222 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: that that's that's a topic that we've hammered and will 223 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: continue to. 224 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a whole another episode. 225 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: I would say the worst case scenario would probably be 226 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, Brendan Davis, right, right, Mario, those you 227 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: mentioned injuries like stuff like that. If you just miss 228 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: huge chunks of development time and bird of forty man 229 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 3: year without getting any like practical on field experience, that's 230 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: it's a bad outcome. And I think a realistic best 231 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: case beyond him, like. 232 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: Joining the forty forty club. 233 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: Or something like that would be. 234 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: Kind of what happened to Pete crowl Armstrong last year 235 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: of like coming up and kind. 236 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Of earning a little more and figuring things out. 237 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: And I just bring that up because if PCA does say, like, 238 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, run into a wall or whatever, and 239 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: I think of that because that's what Jed was asked about, 240 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: say at Dhing and this outfield crown. He's like, look, 241 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: you know, I stared at the whiteboard in twenty sixteen, 242 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: how are we going to fit all these outfielders together? 243 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: And then it was like what Game three or four 244 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: when Schwarber and dex Street Collider collided, so like things 245 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: can change fast and something that does happen like he's 246 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: next man up, right, Like he's like the center fielder 247 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: of the moment, right, that would get that sort. 248 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: Of yeah, And I'm and I'm reading this question again 249 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: and it says best case scenario for this season. So 250 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: I when I said what I said that you can't 251 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: take it. That's not that's not for this season, like 252 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: best case, I think you're right, like him, it would 253 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: be unfortunate, right, like but him getting every day burned 254 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: in the big leagues and being an average offensive player 255 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: and showing that he's a plus plus defend or maybe 256 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: not plus plus, but a plus defender. Yeah, yeah, I 257 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: think that is that's a really nice, maybe best case 258 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: scenario for this season for Kevin o'contra personally getting very 259 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: regular playing time and showing he belongs in the big 260 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: leagues both offensively and defensively, and and frankly, like on 261 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: the basis too, he's a fast dude. So yeah, I 262 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to think about injuries and 263 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but he's a talented kid and we're 264 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: starting to see it, and you know, I'm glad he's 265 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: a good he's he's he's a fascinating character and fun 266 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: and entertaining. So you know, let's see where that goes. 267 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure to burn this year. 268 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: An average. 269 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: Offensive center fielder probably has a ten year career in 270 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: the big leagues and makes like one hundred million dollars, right, 271 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: I mean, like just in terms of like how you've 272 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: written this, it's like how rare those guys are, and 273 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: if the Cubs maybe have two of them, that's could 274 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: be impressive. 275 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, here's here's a negative town for you. Uh, 276 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: too early to speculate on what Tom Ricketts would be 277 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: looking for in replacement for Jed Hoyer. That's from please 278 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: talk to me one. I don't think it's too early, 279 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: because Jed is on the final year of his deal 280 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: and he has to win. And if they don't make 281 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs, we're good. We're in all likelihood we're going 282 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: to be talking about another you know, team president GM, 283 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, whatever, you know, someone 284 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: running a new head of baseball operations. What what is 285 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: Tom going to look for? Someone that is willing to 286 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: survive on the budget that he hands out that you know, 287 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: the fourteenth highest payroll in baseball despite having the third 288 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: biggest market, and and what like how much revenue the 289 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: third highest revenue in baseball for the top five revenue 290 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: and a and a fifteen, you know, in a mid 291 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: market budget. That's that's what he wants. That's there's a 292 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: reason he's brought up the Arizona Diamondbacks and and they're 293 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: run before. There's a reason he talks about how money 294 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: isn't the only isn't the most important thing? You know, 295 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: Prospects build via prospects. Look, I don't think what Jet, 296 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: like Jed is doing what he wants, what Tom wants? 297 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: You know, uh, is there someone better? Maybe? But like 298 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: now you're like if you're here's the thing that like 299 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: people that want that? Like that means you're tearing down 300 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: the front office right, Like a lot of changes are 301 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: coming and you're talking about changing you know, processes and 302 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: and you know various departments. Who who's loyal to Jet 303 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: in the front office? Right? How many how many people 304 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: do you lose? How many departments need to be kind 305 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: of uh redone you're you're talking about, like, this isn't 306 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: like a okay, new new uh new head of baseball operations. 307 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: Now now the bank is open and we're spending big. 308 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: That's not changing. Like that is not changing unless they 309 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: change have a change in philosophy. And it has nothing 310 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: to do with Jet. It has nothing to do with 311 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: who's in charge of baseball operations. So uh, it's you know, 312 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: I don't know who that person is that you're talking about, 313 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: but it would it would have to be you know, 314 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: uh it for it to be a lot better. I 315 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: don't know, you'd have to find someone really creative and 316 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: someone that knows how to whatever the secrets are that 317 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the Rays and the Guardians and the 318 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Brewers have, you know, all those behind the scenes stuff. 319 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: If if they if there's some one that can do 320 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: it better, That's that's what you're talking about. And I 321 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: don't know is that what fans care about? The fans like, 322 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: are are they really interested in that? Or do they 323 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: just want more spending? 324 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: I mean, look, Tom has the guy who's running the 325 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: team exactly the way he wants except you know, he 326 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: would have been twenty twenty three, wanted another win over 327 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: whatever the Marlins or Diamondbacks that would have snuck them 328 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: into the playoffs. He's making the rational decisions that ownership 329 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: wants in free agency. He's avoiding the mega deals, he's 330 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: avoiding the extreme long term contracts. The farm system is 331 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 3: well regarded, the pitching development program has been overhauled. Look, 332 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: I mean Jed Huyer's out for four making the playoffs 333 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: as the cub's president base operations, so like, yeah, like 334 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: it's not too early because they ownership did not extend him. 335 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: And you can see it in some of Jet's reactions. 336 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: Is you can hear it in his voice his comments 337 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: about you know, how he worked within constraints, and those 338 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: constraints don't just disappear if. 339 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: You change the top of it. 340 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: And you know, Tom Ricketts, when I spoke with my 341 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: Cupski that just said we're strongly aligned. We talk every 342 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: day like this is kind of the operation that they want. 343 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: So for me, it's and. 344 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: If you're talking about those things like you know this 345 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: like they've hired guys from the Brewers, from the Guardians, 346 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: from the Dodgers, Like they've brought in those kind of elements, uh, 347 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: to get it to a place where maybe there's some 348 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: whatever secret sauce or a different way of doing things. 349 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: But you know, to me, I think I agree with 350 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: Jed to an extent of like, you know, the front 351 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: office should view this as more of an opportunity than 352 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: than a risk or more reward than than downside because 353 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: and they got a pretty good team. They play in 354 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: a bad division. There's an extra wild card. I have 355 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: a hard time seeing this season like going totally off 356 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 3: the rails, where like they lose ninety games, right. 357 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: Like I say, just get way late by injuries, right, that's. 358 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: Or like every young player falls on his face. Yea 359 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: third at first, and I guess that, yeah, like some 360 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: that could happen, but in terms of like a you know, 361 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: just where they're selling at the deadline, they're totally out 362 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: of it. Like I just have a hard time wrapping 363 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: my brain around that. So I would think that, look, 364 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: they need to survive a tough starts in the season, 365 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: UH need to bank some wins, and then like they'll 366 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 3: figure out what they need. They'll have to make the 367 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 3: appeal to ownership to get some more money to go 368 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: get players, and then you just like start moving pieces 369 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: from the farm. 370 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: And get in impact players skate to October. 371 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: That's It's kind of how I see this year unfolding 372 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: in very broad strokes. 373 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: Right, all right, let's end it on a fun one. 374 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Cole Winterland wants to know what are the best and 375 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: worst parts of covering spring training. I'll let you kick 376 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: that off, Patrick. 377 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: I would say, really, the only downside is being away 378 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: from home for so long, Like that is tough, although 379 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: we're kind of spoiled now where we can break it 380 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: up into much smaller right segments. But otherwise, like, man, 381 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 3: this is a great assignment. Like I personally like the mornings, 382 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: the set schedules, every Almost everyone you want to talk 383 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: to is there, and it's a lot of casual conversations 384 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: are bumping into people really almost no complaints about I 385 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: mean the weather Arizona, I guess, yeah, was spring training 386 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: in Florida probably has more downside. 387 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Phoenix is very compact. Right. 388 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: If if I'm if I'm gonna nitpick, it's it's driving 389 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: to like Surprise or good Year. You know, that's that's 390 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the stuff. Like it's nitpicking. It's sitting in traffic and 391 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: going to crappy road games that you know, if we 392 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: covered in Florida would be a joke, right like that. 393 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: They they drive so much further than us, So it's nitpicking. 394 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: I love the food here, uh you know, like you see, 395 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: there's a lot of other beat writers that I you know, 396 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: go out to dinner with, go out with. That's always fun. Uh. 397 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: The best part for me is you touched on it. 398 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: You run into so many baseball people on the backfield, scouts, 399 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: player development people, coaches that you don't get to see 400 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: all the time. Uh, you know, prospects, whatever. You have 401 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: much more laid back conversations. You lay the groundwork for 402 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: the season. You know, Carter and Jed are like available 403 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: a lot, and you see them a lot because you're 404 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: just kind of like walking around the facility and you 405 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: chat with them different Like it's just a much more 406 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: casual setup and it sets everything up for the season, 407 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: and you get a lot of information. Uh You talk 408 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: to a lot of different people within the organization and 409 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: outside the organization, and it's it's just a like it. 410 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: I love it. I love like gathering information is my 411 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: favorite part of this job. It's I like to joke, 412 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: it's just like gossip, right, We're gossiping at all times, 413 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: and I love gossip. So you want to tell me, 414 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's no such thing as too much 415 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: information as far as I'm concerned, Like keep it coming. 416 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, I I really like spring training. I 417 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: do miss my kids after, you know, after a little while. 418 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: But we're not we like my I always said, my 419 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: my limit is three weeks, and we don't do that 420 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: anymore between you and I. So I love it. We 421 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: have a nice setup. We're spoiled. Uh So, there's just 422 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: not a lot to complain about it. This is a 423 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: fun time of year. I do get antsy towards the end, 424 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: and I just want the season to start and things 425 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: to matter. So maybe there's another Nippick right there, like 426 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: out there yet though, because it's still like gathering information 427 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: and new stuff, like, you know, in two months, I'm 428 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: gonna look back at some of the stuff I wrote 429 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I wrote about that, dude. But but 430 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: we're you know, right now. It's fun and it's all 431 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: new and everything. So you're just happy to be back 432 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: at it. And frankly, the weather is awesome right now 433 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: this year, so I won't I won't rub that. Yeah. 434 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I wore shorts today, first day of shorts, baby, 435 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: so we'll keep that going. We got we got eighty 436 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: five again on Wednesday, so so I'll make sure the 437 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: day two of shorts, I'll stop talking about the weather. 438 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: I know, I'm irritating far too many people, although I 439 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: hear it's kind of nice in Chicago right now, at 440 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: least compared to what it was. 441 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: Yeah today, Yeah, well on Tuesday, Tuesday was nice. You 442 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: kind of felt like spring was sort of coming and 443 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: it was classic you would appreciated this of like it's 444 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: still not like warm, but I just saw p boy 445 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: like T shirt and shorts. Oh absolutely, like you know, 446 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: I'm guessing, you know what I mean. People are watching 447 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: the dog and like shorts and flip flops stuff like. 448 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: That, and then that happens here and we're like bundled 449 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: up and like what the hell is going on? Even 450 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that we're from Chicago, we still complain 451 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: if it's sixty here, like why is this? Why is 452 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: it so cold? All right? Thanks? Thanks for all the questions. Guys. 453 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: It's it's always fun to do those mail bags. We'll 454 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: make sure do that again soon because we get so 455 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: many good questions. Thanks so much for listening. Make sure 456 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: to rate, review, and subscribe to the podcast. Subscribe to 457 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel, and subscribe to The Athletic, where Patrick 458 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: and I will be on top of all things cubs. 459 00:25:40,240 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening to everyone. Take you know, 460 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: my way 461 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: Lived