WEBVTT - Think Outside the Redbox 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:12.600 It's for fourteen am in an evil billionaires compound overlooking 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:34.159 Park City, Utah, and you're listening to Nightcall. M Hello, 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.680 and welcome to Nightcall, a podcast for your strange days 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.960 and Loomie nights. My name is Emily Orshida. I am 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.239 in New York, and as always with me on the 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.600 other end of the line in Los Angeles, I have 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:54.040 Molly Lambert and joining me as always is Tessa Lynch. Hi, guys, 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.520 when you hear this, I will be in a environment 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:04.520 with considerably less oxygen, freezing my ass off, watching a 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.080 bunch of movies. Um, probably not meeting any evil billionaires. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:16.000 Fingers crossed Sundance Film Festival. It's Hollywood fever strikes. Oscar 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.920 nominations came out this morning, so I'm just like in 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:23.080 a everyone's got Hollywood fever, Emily. Do you have any 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.880 strong agians on the nominations? No? Yeah, this is the thing. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.280 I feel like somehow I've finally grown up to the 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.319 point and I tweeted this, but I was just like, Yeah, 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.760 there are movies where I'm glad if they get recognition 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.800 or get nominated or or feel like, you know, career 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.000 achievements or something for somebody, like I feel that way 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.920 about Roma. But then there are movies like First Reformed, 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:48.960 which I love, um, which are so good and also 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:53.080 so weird and and like Sorry to Bother You and 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.560 stuff like that too. I mean, nobody was gonna nominally 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.160 Sorry to Bother You for anything, but like First Reformed, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.600 people had been thinking, O, you know, ether Hawk, or 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.680 it'll get the Best Picture nomination or something. But that 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.760 movie is like special and weird, and I like it 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.000 better without the recognition of the Academy like it just 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:15.640 it feels more appropriate for it to be uh unloved 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:20.200 by the same awards body that apparently loves Bohemian Rhapsody. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.120 I feel like that took all the air out of 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:28.440 the room. Yeah, people being like awards matter ever have 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.880 no I It kind of is a reminder of the 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.040 fact that people who are into the oscars now are 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.280 like all people who really sought the approval of teachers 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.959 when they were in school, Like, and I consider myself 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.360 among that kind of person who was like, I hope 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.840 the authority figure in the room approves of my work 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.679 and thinks that I'm special in doing a good job. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.640 And I feel like I feel like as you grow older, 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:49.240 you hopefully grow out of that a little bit, or 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.320 realize that it doesn't all like like the parent figure 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.200 doesn't need to approve of something in order for it 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.760 to be like good. It was like the only people 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.120 who care about the oscars are people who think they 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.040 might be there someday. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, oh that's true. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.840 I mean, I don't dislike the oscars. I'm I. I 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.920 still I almost didn't see the Golden Globes, and I 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:12.800 realized that if I didn't see them, it would probably 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.480 be the first time in like fifteen years that I 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.120 didn't watch them, Like, I mean, I watch all these 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.160 stupid shows, you know, religiously. It's just so I stopped 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.840 as soon as I didn't have to. I stopped before 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.240 I didn't have to. I stopped long before I did forever. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.880 And then I like, it's also funny because like I 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.400 talked about this a lot, but it used to be 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.200 like an award show would happen, and then it would 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.520 be a week long news cycle of like waiting for 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.240 the Entertainment Weekly, you know, wrap up on the award 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.880 show from a week ago, and now it's like, by 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:45.200 an hour afterwards, the commentary. You've seen every meme. You 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.600 don't need to watch it. You find out what happened. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.480 I don't know. I like to watch something in real time. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.400 This goes back to the American Idol thing too, because 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.200 though that wasn't like up to the minute live, it's 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.400 like sports. Yeah, it's sports, and I want to see 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.360 I mean, like, I feel like it had been a 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.840 long run of nothing interesting happening on the oscars, but 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.440 then that mixed up with La La Land and Moonlight 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.760 that gave it another ten years of relevancy. That was 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.600 like the most wacky thing. What if that was an 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:15.960 inside job? Guys, the mix up, It's very possible. Who 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:21.280 wasn't starting a conspiracy Warren Baby did it? And fade away? Yes, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:28.880 Bonnie and Clyde one last job. Yeah, I would definitely 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.040 watch an Awards show if the host were right and 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.320 I really was pinning my hopes on. Oh hello, well 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.640 that was that? That would mean that was the most exciting. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.800 You know, who's available nightcall? Oh yeah, I don't know 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.279 that we're available. Imagine how long are you just so 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.159 much waiting around? Come on, you have to go to 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.160 all these like writing rooms and like approve of terrible 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.279 jokes and stuff. I feel like the jokes will be 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.240 good because we'll be in charge. Ah, yes, known for 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.120 our jokes. Everyone will have to enter and exit the 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:08.160 stage on a UFO, a giant parliament funkadelic UFO. There 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.839 will be a parade afterwards and parade during during the 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.120 whole thing, it will be a moving awards show. We'll 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:20.040 shut down the boulevard. We'll hold it marching down Hollywood 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:24.480 Boulevard like the Christmas Parade. People want that mobile awards 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.200 show would be amazing. I float is like you present 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.240 an award on each float. Yeah, I like this. This 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.480 is why we're in charge of the Oscar show. Yeah, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.719 we don't need approved parentalres I want to introduce this 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.560 concept at the Avian Awards. The best thing that they did, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.640 among many good things, was they start the show with 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.960 the in memorium, which makes everybody shut up and sit down, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.040 and then you get it out of the way. How 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.800 do you recover from that because you have a comedian 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.200 come on immediately afterwards and do like some really filthy jobs. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.120 That sounds so jarring and that life is jarring test 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.800 Yeah that's true life. Well, I like I like the 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.160 prospect of US pivoting to events in twenty nineteen as 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:11.360 part of our media empire. Uh at us. Yes, speaking 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.520 of events, we have an event coming up. We do 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.000 have an event coming up. Have you heard? We haven't 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.680 been talking about it much at all, but we have 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.560 a god talking at the very end of podcasts and 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.560 I wonder if people have not been tuning in all 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:24.880 the way through. Well now we're going to put it 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.720 at the front, like the in memoriam look at yeah 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:33.120 really really sad, just the opposite, super happy. We're doing 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.320 a DJ set. We as Nightcall are doing a DJ 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.920 event at Gold Diggers in Hollywood on Santa Monica Boulevard. Um. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.240 You may have attended our our little pre Thanksgiving event 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.680 in November with Molly and Tests, but this time all 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:55.080 of us are going to be there. It's gonna be 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.880 Chinese New Year. It will be Chinese some Chinese New 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:02.760 Year magic. Yes, our run a magician, Emma Cunningham is 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.599 going to do some Chinese New Year themes magic that 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.280 she's working on especially for the show. Very exciting. I'm 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.480 really excited for Chinese New Year because New Year New 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.360 Year didn't really like shift the vibe enough for me. 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.679 I need a new like a thing to represent something 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.720 you didn't feel, show you didn't feel, like the eclipse. 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.480 For example, Well, you guys, did you all watch the 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.840 super blood moon super Wolf blood Moon? Yeah? I did. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:40.080 Confused about when it happened. Well, the time zone differential, 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.880 we had totality at nine pm, a great time for 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.400 this past weekend, but we're recording a week out, so 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.680 two weeks ago, a week ago for you. I didn't 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.120 really understand that it was an eclipse until like that day, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.920 and then I was like, oh, I understand. Now it's 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.680 like a big deal because it's going to be a 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:02.200 red eclipse. Yes. Uh. It also kind of tied up 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.800 one of the weirdest weather weeks in Los Angeles that 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:10.679 I've seen, which was like four days of glorious rain. Uh, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.760 and now it's super windy and crazy. But yeah, it 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.200 was a pretty It was a pretty good moon, a 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.040 very good B plus moon. What it takes a lot, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.400 you know, I'm not easily impressed. I was so impressed. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.480 First it turned red and then it eclipsed and then 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.640 it came back. Yeah, and it was I was not 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.880 thinking that it was going to be as dazzling as 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.160 it was, because it was all like foggy and misty, 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.520 and I was like, we're not going to see it. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.960 But then everything clouds blew away just in time, and 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.800 there was a really good live feed from Griffith Observatory 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.600 that I was also had up on a computer because 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:49.320 two moons angles Time and Date dot com. They had 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.960 like an astrophysicist commenting live and that was really interesting 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.599 because he like explained a lot of things I didn't understand. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:00.640 That's great, like the pnumbra yes um, just about how 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.920 like why it happens. It's like in the shadow of 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.760 another all the things are lined up in a way 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:10.120 that they never aren't the red from the atmosphere of Earth, 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.080 or we need an astrophysicist or Alley Ward to come. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.840 You know. It was very beyond comprehension in a way 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.640 that I like things to be. But it was also 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.840 funny because like that was all I cared about, and 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.199 then Twitter was like talking about sports and I was like, 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:32.400 where's the moon discourse, guys, we need more moon. Honestly, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.640 the PR department for this moon, this moon event was 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.440 not It didn't really release information in the best way 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.440 to drum up the excitement necessary. It was like everyone 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.040 got excited about the name and it sounded really metal, 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.480 and then it was happened. We didn't know what. They 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.640 didn't announce the time. They didn't what do you read? 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.040 And I looked on a website and you had to 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.120 do extra clicks. They should have told you right on 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.760 the social media, like I should have told everybody what time. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.960 Shut out a Twitter feed for the blood moon, and 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.440 then bio it would say happening at nine eighth Central 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:11.079 only on the c W. I went up. I went 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.520 up to a Moon Canyon, which is up at the 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.080 top of Mount Washington. There's a little area canyon called 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.800 Moon Canyon. Oh yeah, that that canyon is very cute. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.360 It's it's very cute, and it's like you can see 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.520 the moon from it. I guess that's why it's you 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.560 can see the moon from anywhere. No, but it's like 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.600 I had always been like, I wonder if it's really 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.000 a good moon viewing spot. It turns out it is. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.040 A bunch of people were up there also to check 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:39.040 out the eclipse, and then right when the full eclipse happened, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.400 all these dogs started howling. Really, yeah, it was the 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.160 craziest thing I've ever heard, because I thought at first 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.760 it was people. I thought it was people howling like 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.920 it was like, and then it was clear that it 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.880 was like every dog in the area and maybe coyotes, um, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.520 like the midnight howel and hundring one dalmatian. Yeah, it 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.719 was real. I was like, oh, and just that thing 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.160 of like, oh, animals are so affected by the moon. Yeah, 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.040 we are animals. That's so cool. Okay, speaking of the 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.760 moon stuffs growing up there now not anymore? Oh did 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.120 it die? It died already. Well, look, it was a 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.439 good start. There was a cotton plant on a spaceship, 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.120 I believe a Chinese spaceship on the moon, the Chinese Moonlander. Yes, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.640 and it had cotton and potato seeds, yeast and fruit 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.480 fly eggs just to whip up some nice breakfast. It's 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.080 like a chopped basket. You know, it had never been 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:37.000 grown before in those circumstances. But then it died. Yeah, 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.920 that was not on the far sideway, because that was 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.800 this was from the Chinese mission that landed on the 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.280 far side of the Moon. Is this part of the 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.640 same project. I think they didn't plan on the far side, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.120 did they didn't plan on the Moon. It's like in 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:53.280 the Lunar Lander in the pod. Yeah, like in Sunshine 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.560 when they have the greenhouse on the ship. Yeah. The 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.160 only thing that's ever made me think I could live 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.360 on a spaceship. I was like, oh, there are a 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.400 lot of plants inside. Maybe that's again like Wally, It's 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.600 like the creepiest thing about a planet would be if 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:12.760 there were no plants. Rights creepy for a lot of reason. Well, 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.559 I did not like Wally that much until I was like, Oh, 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.080 it's the if you have kids who are watching a 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.640 bunch of kid movies and that you're in this like 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.520 drought where it's just there's nothing to sink your teeth into, 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:29.400 and then you yeah, like here, kids enjoy this, Yeah, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.040 you will enjoy it. I feel like we didn't get 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.680 to sufficiently get into that Chinese moon landing when we 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.240 were rounding up our space news. Yeah, because it was 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.640 a big, a big part of space news. It's a 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:45.440 pretty big deal. Also related to the Gamma rays, which 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:50.160 I was talking about before only on Nightcall guys, I 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.360 was talking about the kind of conjecture that you could 0:12:55.240 --> 0:13:00.079 get some kind of alien signals from Gamma rays and 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.120 theoretically one of the best ways to receive them, and 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:04.680 where it would be, you know, out of range of 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.319 the Earth and like a clean you would be able 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.240 to get clean signals would be on the far side 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.840 of the moon. Ah, so the night of the moon. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.760 uh so we're we're you know, halfway there, guys, halfway there. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.480 I listened the next day after the eclipse too. They 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.800 played an old episode of Jones's juke Box where he 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:26.560 had Brian may On from Queen who's also an astrophysicist. Yeah. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.760 So he was talking about the Drake equation a lot. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.720 It was episodes from when the last eclipse happened, and 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.959 I remember listening to it at the time. Did he 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.760 talk about new trinos, No, but he talked about like 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.120 he was very open minded about you know, who knows 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.120 where we came from. You know, knowing a lot about 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.120 science doesn't preclude you from believing in aliens or you know. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.320 Jonesy was like, oh, do you think that, like we're 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.800 the accidental invention of an alien civilization? He was like, oh, 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.640 I hope, so that would be nice speaking of things 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.600 that at nobody was sure what time they would happen. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.840 We all talked about watching the Fire Festival documentaries on 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.760 Hulu and Netflix, and then we all decided as a 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:17.160 group not to do it as a form of protest 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:22.480 against the endless content zoned. I thought you watched them, Molly, 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.040 Oh no, I didn't watch them. She was protesting by 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.320 not I was going to watch them. I heard one 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.360 of them is definitely better than the other according to 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:35.960 everyone who watched both, which is fire is supposed to 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.640 be better, right, WHOA I heard the Netflix one was 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:44.040 the sponsored one. Yeah, Netflix is the one that's like 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.360 produced by Jerry Media. I came to resent how much 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.520 time I was spending learning about these documentaries and like 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.440 the differences between them. Just as somebody who didn't want 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.440 to watch either of them, I still absorbed so much 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:02.080 information about it through. It's like you couldn't help but 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.840 get information about the Fire Festival documentaries, right, Like you 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.920 had to struggle to have information about the eclipses, right. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.479 And I'm like, I remember when the fire Festival thing happened. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.360 It was whatever. I don't know. The problem is there 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.240 were no heroes in that story, you know what I mean? 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.480 Because it's yes, it sucks to like spend a ton 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.920 of money on something and have it be bad. But 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.640 it's also it just seems like an absolutely crazy expense 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.760 for like a really it seemed like a Wolf of 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.120 Wall Street thing, or oh, are we glorifying these idiots 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.200 for like wasting people's time and money, because like the 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:42.720 details I found interesting. I mean, like the cheese sandwich 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.000 is something that I'll remember for a long time. Um, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.000 and there were great jokes about it. But yeah, I 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.840 mean I was I planned to watch it, but I 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.440 thought that Molly's point about like endlessly spinning content from 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.040 something that same bad about it is how it turned 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.960 into a story about the content wars, but the streaming 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.760 wars between Hulu and Netflix, and it made it like 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.560 this like Hulu and Netflix or having like an East 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.720 coast West Coast rap beef and like everybody wins because 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.480 you get to watch like four hours of documentary and 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.360 that a thing that's not that cool. So I was like, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.920 this documentary is about a scam, Like that's the scam, 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.600 Like you're all being scammed into watching whatever because it's 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.160 there and you're like in front of it already. There's 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.160 something of like this indulgent like it's it's so kind 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.200 of low steaks was other garbage. But it's like, if 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.680 it's forced on me, I'm like you you rejected. If 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.040 I'm like everybody's watching the thing, it's you have to 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.080 watch it so you can be in the discourse, I'm like, 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.120 m When it was happening, I feel like there was 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.680 a lot of hope that like it would be the 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.880 end of something, Like I remember making some Altimont jokes 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:54.840 about it when when the actual debacle was happening, um, 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.120 and it felt like the closer off the Emperor, we 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.720 can kind of, you know, see this sort of hype 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.160 be stuff for what it is. But then it feels 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.359 like it defeats the purpose to like mythologize it again 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.080 at least so quickly, like go back and make a 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.040 fire Festival documentary in ten years or twenty years and 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.679 we have more hindsight about where we were culturally. But 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.800 I feel like right now, it's just like, what more 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.560 are we going to learn? That wasn't you know? People 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.280 were saying that. I mean, like, one of the things 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.040 I learned from Twitter was that the big takeaway was 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.280 that there were a bunch of like service workers in 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.880 the Bahamas who got really screwed and had to like 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.000 work for free essentially, and then somebody started to go 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.440 fund me for them. I think it was like fuck 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.000 Jerry or whatever was like, hey help this woman who 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.480 this documentary is about how we screwed her and all 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.560 her co workers, and everybody was like, wait, didn't you 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.800 get paid from this Netflix making this documentary? Like why 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:53.280 don't you just pay her? Yeah? Again, it seems like 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.000 I think you're right, like there's not enough hindsight because 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.360 like all the same stuff is still happening yet. Yeah. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:04.600 I mean so we sometimes if we're just like at 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.359 a loss, we'll put on Netflix. Not very often, but 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.120 it's always like an exercise, exercise and absurdism in a way, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.680 Like David and I will just put on the Netflix 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.280 and see, like go down as far as we can 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.360 go until we get past all the stuff that gets 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.679 automatically fed to you and find something truly random. And 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.159 there's a show, a series that was on Netflix and 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.479 I think that it was from I want to say 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:32.359 called Internet Famous, and it is like it is a 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:37.520 UM series that is like made for Instagram people because 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.240 each of the episodes is about seven minutes long, UM 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.159 and so each one you know, purports to profile a 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:49.280 different Internet famous person, and the first one is the 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.520 funk Jerry guy. But I think it was produced by him. 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:57.120 I'm not sure on this, but because they had footage 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.920 of him from LIKELVE or something or whatever. He was 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.639 first starting his career as a viral content boy, and 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:06.960 then it fast forwards to him like having his office 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.800 space and starting jury media and all this ship and 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:15.679 it was like beyond entourage level of like vacuity. It 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.320 was just the most empty thing in the world. And 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:23.520 I like that person. They just aggregate other people's memes. Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.240 they don't even make their own stuff. It's just then 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.600 it was like they were branching down into merchandizing and 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.240 making like a card game about memes or something like that. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.159 It was just like, and I remember thinking, and I 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.479 hate to always reduce it to something like sex, but 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.960 I was just like, man, if you were a teen 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.440 and like, fuck, Jerry was like somebody you were supposed 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.240 to have a crush on or something because he was 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:47.160 like an internet entrepreneurrepreneurs. He was like a young mover 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.280 and shaker or something. Because he's not a bad looking dude, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.159 but you can imagine that a lot of girls are 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.320 like sending him nudes or whatever. Um, and and I 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.800 was just like, man, like, it's the least sexy thing 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:03.400 in the world to be, to be a like content aggregator. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:07.159 It's totally soulless. We're in a scammer economy, yeah, but 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.520 there's not scammers are sexier, though. There's something about a 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:16.159 scammer where it's like there's more potential for like the imagination, 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:18.960 like they're like, I don't know, some sense of like 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.200 romance or like Bonnie and clydeism or something speaking, there's 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.240 more there's more plot. Yeah, there's more plot. Like with that. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.639 It's just like it's just like being a receptacle. It's 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.919 just like being a human receptacle, and like not in 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.840 a hot way. So, I mean I felt old, but 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.560 I also felt like, I mean, I guess the worst 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.400 combination of things. I felt old and superior. But then 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.479 you know, realizing then that he had a hand in 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.480 one of these documentaries and that like I hadn't put 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.879 it together, I totally forgotten and he was like behind 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.680 the fire Festival. And then I kind of seeing that 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:57.119 like very depressing seven minute episode and then remembering that 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:58.840 he was a fire festival dude. I was just like, 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.880 oh my god, like this culture has not gone away 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:06.480 at all, you know, his fame or whatever. Yeah, totally 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:11.920 some more longevity. Yeah no, and and pathologize. I mean, 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:13.920 I guess they like what happened to the main guy? 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:18.240 That Billie McFarlane or whatever his name was, the main guy? Um? 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.879 Is he like in legal trouble now? I mean I remember, 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:22.720 right after a fire happened, then they're like, we're gonna 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.880 do it again next year. Guys, it will work this time, 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.399 and then everybody's like l O L and it didn't. 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.760 I think that that's not happening anymore. So it's not 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.000 like Wolf of Wall Street stuff. He'll probably end up 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.360 on like a speaking tour telling people how to rip 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.639 other people off. It's like a less consequential version of 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.199 Steve Bannon. We still feel like we need to like 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.359 hear these more or less people who have more or 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.040 less proven themselves to be worthless. We feel like we 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:47.760 have to hear them out in order for like to 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.720 have like more information, because all information is good to 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.840 have your brain. It's just like, no, I don't know 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.200 if this is actually helping anybody Yeah, maybe don't give 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:07.520 this person money to talk about anything. Yeah, banish them. 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.000 Today's episode of Night Call is brought to you by 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.199 Green Chef. Green Chef is a U. S d. A 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:17.040 certified organic company that makes eating well easy and affordable, 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.280 with plans to fit every kind of lifestyle. 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