WEBVTT - Living Ritual with Tracee Stanley  

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Deeply Well. This show is a soft place

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<v Speaker 1>to land on your journey, a space where we explore

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<v Speaker 1>what it truly means to live well from the inside out.

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<v Speaker 1>Not perfectly, but honestly, this is Deeply Well. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Deeply Well. I'm Devi Brown. Today's guest on the

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<v Speaker 1>show is Tracy Stanley, author, spiritual teacher, and longtime practitioner

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<v Speaker 1>whose work invites us to explore what becomes possible when

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<v Speaker 1>we bring greater intention, rest, ritual, and devotion into our

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<v Speaker 1>everyday lives. Tracy is the author of the bestselling books,

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<v Speaker 1>Radiant Rest and The Luminous Self, and her newest book,

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<v Speaker 1>Living Ritual, infused every day with purpose and spirit, explores

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<v Speaker 1>how we can transform the seemingly ordinary moments of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>into opportunities for deeper connection and meaning. For more than

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<v Speaker 1>30 years, Tracy has studied Srivijaya Tantra and the teachings

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<v Speaker 1>of the Himalayan masters. And today she shares the wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>of yoga nidra, meditation, self-inquiry, nature as a teacher, ancestor reverence,

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<v Speaker 1>and the power found within liminal spaces. Through her work

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<v Speaker 1>in her community, Empowered Life Circle, Tracy reminds us that

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<v Speaker 1>our spiritual lives don't have to exist separately from our

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<v Speaker 1>everyday lives and that the practice can be woven into

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<v Speaker 1>how we rest, how we listen, how we move through

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<v Speaker 1>transitions and how we meet ourselves each day. So today

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<v Speaker 1>we are exploring what it means to live ritual. the

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom available to us through rest and stillness, and how

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<v Speaker 1>we can create lives that feel more connected, purposeful, and sacred.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show, Tracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Debbie. Thank you so much. It's an honor

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<v Speaker 2>to be here with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. You know what I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>when I received your beautiful book?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 1>As someone who really, I think, was saved in so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways by bringing devotional romance and ritual and slow,

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<v Speaker 1>steady practice into my life, it was really special reading

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<v Speaker 1>your book and realizing how more than ever, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the medicine of our time. This is what allows us

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<v Speaker 1>not just to keep going but to still feel alive

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<v Speaker 1>inside of ourselves and inside of our lives so one

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just thank you for sharing this work in

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful way with all of us and I think

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<v Speaker 1>too I mean talk to me about your road to

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<v Speaker 1>bringing this to life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well thank you for your reflection first of all um

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<v Speaker 2>And the road to bringing it to life, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like whenever I'm incubating, creating, musing on what's next, I

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<v Speaker 2>try to listen for what's happening in the world and

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<v Speaker 2>try to project forward to where I see things going,

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<v Speaker 2>where antidotes might be needed. And when I was musing

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<v Speaker 2>on this, um, It was, you know, mid kind of 2023.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had just had a book that was released.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the same time, I started to notice more isolation,

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<v Speaker 2>more loneliness, more distraction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And that started to increase within the year. And I

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<v Speaker 2>started to think about what were the tools that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been taught? What are the tools that I have? used

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<v Speaker 2>in my own life that helped me to harness my

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<v Speaker 2>attention back to myself and my energy back to myself

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<v Speaker 2>because I felt like that distraction was also causing depletion

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<v Speaker 2>and a different kind of depletion. And yes, I've written

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about rest, but what I started to notice

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<v Speaker 2>was that students that were new to the practices of

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<v Speaker 2>rest and new to the practices of Yoga Nidra seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to actually have a harder time dropping in than let's

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<v Speaker 2>say pre-pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I started to think about some of the

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<v Speaker 2>practices that I had been given and how they were

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<v Speaker 2>all really rituals, how the practice of deep breaths and

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<v Speaker 2>yoga nidra is really based on the ritual of consecrating

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<v Speaker 2>the body as a divine temple. And I felt like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the thing that we've lost. we've lost this

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<v Speaker 2>remembrance that we are a temple, that life is a ritual,

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<v Speaker 2>that our actions and our thoughts and our words are

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<v Speaker 2>actually offerings to our life. And when we are distracted

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<v Speaker 2>and that distraction has become pretty much almost a permanent, um.

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<v Speaker 3>State of being. Yeah. My God.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That it doesn't allow a lot of space and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't allow us to observe the transitions that happen, not

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<v Speaker 2>only in the everyday, but in our lives as a

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<v Speaker 2>season or a cycle of nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And ritual is really a way to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>start to remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, just so, so, so, so gorgeously said it's, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if all the words like exist

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<v Speaker 1>right now to describe, I think the way all of

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<v Speaker 1>these layers and this nuance to the human experience are

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of bubbling to the surface. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think in some ways that the greater collective is connecting

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Like I want an analog life. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the nineties. Like there's this, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of wanting to be without that constant hum of

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<v Speaker 1>distraction that can, it just doesn't leave. It surrounds us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, almost like humidity hugging us. And the interior

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<v Speaker 1>world that we create is the cure. It is the anecdote.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm curious as someone who has been in

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<v Speaker 1>such deep practice with themselves and with their work for

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<v Speaker 1>over the last three decades. What are you noticing that

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<v Speaker 1>even in this moment, you're still learning about yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>bringing to life?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what I'm noticing is actually part of

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<v Speaker 2>what's in contrast to the noticing of the distraction. that

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<v Speaker 2>in some way it's bringing me deeper because I'm listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the algorithm has a frequency and that

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<v Speaker 2>frequency does not contain truth. It does not contain wisdom

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<v Speaker 2>and it does not contain love.

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<v Speaker 3>And that nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Contains all of those things. Stillness, slowness contains all of

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<v Speaker 2>those things. And what I find is that those are

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I want to embody, that I want

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<v Speaker 2>my life to be about. And so I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it's pulled a deeper focus, a deeper commitment, a deeper

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<v Speaker 2>devotion to what it is that I feel is real

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<v Speaker 2>and what it is that I want to have in

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<v Speaker 2>the forefront.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my own life.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not to say that I don't get distracted

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<v Speaker 2>because I certainly do. But each distraction, I try to

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<v Speaker 2>use it as a way to reset, a way to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you. For someone listening right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that may be yearning to taste that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>find that Before you have it, it's hard to really

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<v Speaker 1>conceptualize what this shift is and what it really opens

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<v Speaker 1>and brings into your experience of being alive. For someone

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<v Speaker 1>looking to really start the path of listening for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, observing for the first time, slowing for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, what's.

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<v Speaker 3>A way to begin?

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. I think a way to begin, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>is to remember a moment of awe in your own life.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's something that most of us can

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<v Speaker 2>connect to. That moment that you saw the double rainbow

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<v Speaker 2>or you felt the wind from a raven's wings flapping

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<v Speaker 2>or you saw the baby's first smile or laugh. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a moment of presence. that is available. And it is

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<v Speaker 2>what makes, I think it is what makes all possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And those are the moments that are the portals for

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<v Speaker 2>us to be inspired to say, I want more of

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<v Speaker 2>that in my life. I want more of that noticing.

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<v Speaker 2>I want more of that feeling. And then we have

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<v Speaker 2>to remember that we can actually create those moments ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to wait for the double rainbow. What

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<v Speaker 2>we can do is we can create our own transitions,

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<v Speaker 2>our own thresholds. And sometimes it's as simple as just

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<v Speaker 2>closing your eyes for a few moments and feeling what

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<v Speaker 2>the breath feels like in the body and noticing that

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<v Speaker 2>there is always a space between the inhale and there's

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<v Speaker 2>always a space between the exhale and the next inhale.

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<v Speaker 2>And most of the time we're instructed to just notice

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<v Speaker 2>the breath as it flows in and out. But if

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<v Speaker 2>we actually begin to notice the pause in between and

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<v Speaker 2>allow ourselves to settle and I dare say surrender into

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<v Speaker 2>that space in between, it becomes a portal to so

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<v Speaker 2>much wisdom and so much knowing.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just so gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>What a way to describe that. glimpse of your soul, that,

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<v Speaker 1>that way to be deeply, deeply in and aligned. Um, I, I, I,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really savoring what you said because as a meditator

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<v Speaker 1>and meditator teaching, um, meditation teacher, it's, that is just

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most special gifts being able to share

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<v Speaker 1>a path into that door, that portal. Um, and once,

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<v Speaker 1>once you get it just one time, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>back there anytime. It, it changes absolutely everything. And even

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<v Speaker 1>just a second, it's just more than enough. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the most special things I think about

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<v Speaker 1>having a practice and letting yourself surrender to the discomforts

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, the irritations of a practice, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's getting that glimpse changes all of it. It changes

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<v Speaker 1>everything forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Thank you for also just naming the glimpse. Because

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we feel as though, oh, I don't have enough

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<v Speaker 2>time to sit or I don't have enough time to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, is that we already know. And

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<v Speaker 2>the moment that you touch that place, it keeps calling

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<v Speaker 2>you back.

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<v Speaker 1>It keeps calling.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody who's... Who's on the journey of meditation remembers the

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<v Speaker 2>moment that they felt that glimpse or they saw that glimpse.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing that keeps them coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>To their cushion.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the same with ritual because meditation is really

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<v Speaker 2>a ritual as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, that's one of. the really

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<v Speaker 1>special parts. Cause I think when someone is looking to

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<v Speaker 1>start a practice, I think for all of us, it's,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so big, it's so different. It's so, um, many

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<v Speaker 1>little steps. And at first it can feel like a checklist,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but when you can develop that glimpse for

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, it becomes so incredibly easy to improve. apply

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<v Speaker 1>it to everything to all the things to make every

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<v Speaker 1>little moment and ritual and so many you beautifully describe

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<v Speaker 1>and give in the book but to make every single

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<v Speaker 1>one of those moments like really spiritual fuel or spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>release for yourself um.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's um i you know what an example of

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<v Speaker 2>that would be is that there's a practice in the

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<v Speaker 2>book that's called the blessing pour over And it's this

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<v Speaker 2>idea that with every morning coffee or with every morning

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<v Speaker 2>tea that you can make that into a ritual just

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<v Speaker 2>by bringing your presence and intention. So taking a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of moments while the water is boiling to just watch

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<v Speaker 2>your breath and be in meditation. And so that could

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<v Speaker 2>be about two minutes. And then the moment that the

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<v Speaker 2>coffee or the tea is ready, when you pour into

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<v Speaker 2>your own bowl or your own cup, pouring yourself a

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<v Speaker 2>blessing or a prayer or repeating an affirmation and doing

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<v Speaker 2>the same for someone else you might be serving. And

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<v Speaker 2>eventually what I've heard from students who have practiced this

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<v Speaker 2>is that eventually it starts to lead to, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 2>prayers now happening when I'm preparing my meal. There's prayers

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<v Speaker 2>now happening when I'm serving my family. And now everything

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<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen is, suddenly becomes an act of blessing,

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<v Speaker 2>an act of presence, an act of prayer. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is how the householder then begins to weave this practice

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<v Speaker 2>of ritual throughout the day. You start to become attuned

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<v Speaker 2>to all of these moments and transitions, whether it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>serving that morning pour over, or it's sitting in line

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for school pickup. You start to realize like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got about eight minutes before I get to the

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<v Speaker 2>head of the line. What am I going to do

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<v Speaker 2>with this eight minutes? Am I going to scroll or

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<v Speaker 2>am I going to sing or am I going to

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<v Speaker 2>pray or am I going to meditate? What am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to do with this time? How am I going

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<v Speaker 2>to be present?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Living prayer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, God, you just poured

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<v Speaker 1>so much. It's so good. And it's so real. Opening

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<v Speaker 1>to this kind of devotional way of being, it changes everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It changes everything. It opens, opens, opens so much. possibility

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<v Speaker 1>and potential in every single second. And just the spiritual

0:16:56.380 --> 0:16:59.660
<v Speaker 1>fortification that it gives you, the protection that it gives you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how you describe... I mean, I can't say enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to keep saying, oh my gosh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do that and me too. But the power of

0:17:07.500 --> 0:17:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it is so special. And I hope everyone listening really

0:17:11.750 --> 0:17:15.270
<v Speaker 1>gets that because I know sometimes, especially starting with little

0:17:15.330 --> 0:17:19.370
<v Speaker 1>rituals like this, as you're building kind of the tolerance

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<v Speaker 1>for the repetition, for the practice, it feels weird. It

0:17:23.350 --> 0:17:25.889
<v Speaker 1>feels disjointed. You may not always think you have the

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<v Speaker 1>language or, you know, it may not be used to

0:17:29.350 --> 0:17:34.689
<v Speaker 1>how you're, um, it may not be how you are

0:17:34.850 --> 0:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>used to interacting with your life or with yourself. but

0:17:39.900 --> 0:17:42.639
<v Speaker 1>taking the time to practice it, especially knowing that no

0:17:42.700 --> 0:17:45.240
<v Speaker 1>one is watching and no one's giving out a grade

0:17:45.340 --> 0:17:54.020
<v Speaker 1>for it, it clicks in very, very, very swiftly and

0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.600
<v Speaker 1>becomes something that does feel natural and then that changes

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<v Speaker 1>your flow and your rhythm with absolutely everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that the key is that at least

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<v Speaker 2>the way that I'm presenting these rituals and living ritual

0:18:14.530 --> 0:18:18.390
<v Speaker 2>is really that you get to be the one to

0:18:18.510 --> 0:18:23.090
<v Speaker 2>create the ritual. You get to be the one to

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<v Speaker 2>listen deeply, to look around your space. So there is

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<v Speaker 2>no such thing as getting it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you share with me maybe some of your, as

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<v Speaker 1>you look back over time, some of the rituals that

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<v Speaker 1>specifically brought you back to you in moments that you

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<v Speaker 1>really needed it or ones that you found you just

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<v Speaker 1>intuitively created in a moment of need and how it

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<v Speaker 1>met that?

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would think that I'd like to share what

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<v Speaker 2>happened after my father passed away. And, you know, I

0:19:23.460 --> 0:19:29.430
<v Speaker 2>have a very steady meditation practice. And the day after

0:19:29.510 --> 0:19:36.149
<v Speaker 2>he passed, I was in meditation. And he came to

0:19:36.210 --> 0:19:41.709
<v Speaker 2>me as a star, a brilliant star of light. And

0:19:41.750 --> 0:19:48.050
<v Speaker 2>it was undeniable. That it was him. And I was like, wow.

0:19:49.190 --> 0:19:51.389
<v Speaker 3>We do really. go back to light.

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<v Speaker 2>And some other things happened that also continue to confirm that.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I started to do, because eventually that light

0:20:05.020 --> 0:20:09.300
<v Speaker 2>started to fade, is to lay under the stars.

0:20:10.020 --> 0:20:10.369
<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I laid under the stars, I would look

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<v Speaker 2>for him. And I would offer my prayers and my remembrances.

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<v Speaker 2>And then eventually, it became more of the ancestors that

0:20:26.369 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I would feel and sense in the starlight. And that

0:20:31.580 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 2>became something that I did often, as well as on

0:20:38.020 --> 0:20:42.980
<v Speaker 2>the anniversary of his death. And that was not a

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.859
<v Speaker 2>ritual that anyone told me to go and do. That

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<v Speaker 2>was something that came up and bubbled its way into

0:20:52.330 --> 0:20:58.250
<v Speaker 2>my consciousness. I'll give you another example. And I write

0:20:58.290 --> 0:21:03.429
<v Speaker 2>about this example in The Luminous Self. So when I

0:21:03.470 --> 0:21:08.600
<v Speaker 2>was younger, I was in, I think it was seventh

0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.929
<v Speaker 2>or eighth grade. And a couple of girls on the

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<v Speaker 2>bus decided to jump me and smash eggs in my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God.

0:21:18.020 --> 0:21:21.440
<v Speaker 2>And they smashed these eggs in my hair. And it

0:21:22.460 --> 0:21:24.680
<v Speaker 2>was because they didn't like how my hair was styled.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And so I had to walk through.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was going to this school that had like

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<v Speaker 2>a half a mile between the East Wing and the

0:21:35.260 --> 0:21:38.379
<v Speaker 2>West Wing. And where the bus dropped me off, I

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.659
<v Speaker 2>had to walk. all through the hallways and through the

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>center place where everyone would hang out before homeroom. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember getting off of the bus and saying to myself,

0:21:53.140 --> 0:21:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I am covered with eggs. There's nothing I can do.

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<v Speaker 2>I can go to the bathroom and I can wipe

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<v Speaker 2>some of it off, but I have to get to

0:22:00.859 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 2>my homeroom class in time. And so I just decided

0:22:05.460 --> 0:22:09.369
<v Speaker 2>that I was going to be Cleopatra. And that I

0:22:09.430 --> 0:22:12.110
<v Speaker 2>was going to walk like Cleopatra and I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to walk with a gown through the halls until I

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<v Speaker 2>could get to a place where I could really clean

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<v Speaker 2>myself up.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a very traumatic experience for two reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>One, because of the eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, because what I did was I put this facade

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<v Speaker 2>of Cleopatra on that it took me years to realize

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<v Speaker 2>was still intact.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't allowing people to see the real me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a mask that was on and that mask

0:22:45.580 --> 0:22:51.540
<v Speaker 2>changed over years, right? But at some point I did

0:22:51.619 --> 0:22:55.770
<v Speaker 2>some practices around this and I said, oh, I need

0:22:55.830 --> 0:22:59.690
<v Speaker 2>to do a ritual in order to kind of break this.

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<v Speaker 2>We could call it a spell. We could call it

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<v Speaker 2>a samskara. We could call it a trauma. I need

0:23:05.750 --> 0:23:11.430
<v Speaker 2>to regain my power. And the first thing that came

0:23:11.530 --> 0:23:15.220
<v Speaker 2>to my mind when I said to myself, I need

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.820
<v Speaker 2>to regain my power, was that you have to break

0:23:18.859 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that egg over.

0:23:19.700 --> 0:23:20.340
<v Speaker 3>Your own head.

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.699
<v Speaker 2>And so I waited for my husband to go on

0:23:25.790 --> 0:23:30.130
<v Speaker 2>a business trip and know that I would have like

0:23:30.210 --> 0:23:35.910
<v Speaker 2>three days kind of unbothered by anyone and nobody asking

0:23:35.950 --> 0:23:40.670
<v Speaker 2>me what I'm doing. And I performed my own ritual

0:23:42.130 --> 0:23:46.050
<v Speaker 2>of breaking this egg over my head, taking back my power,

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>naming who I was, what I was, what I wanted

0:23:51.060 --> 0:23:59.220
<v Speaker 2>from life, and releasing this trauma, this experience of really

0:23:59.340 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>shame and using a mask, so to speak, to cover

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:05.179
<v Speaker 2>the shame. Yeah.

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Right. And it was extremely powerful. And the moment I

0:24:10.060 --> 0:24:15.609
<v Speaker 3>broke that egg over my head, it was over. It

0:24:15.660 --> 0:24:16.140
<v Speaker 3>was over.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be sitting here with you right now having

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation about my third book if I had not

0:24:24.730 --> 0:24:25.610
<v Speaker 2>done that ritual.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for sharing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So powerful. So powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Our ability, my God. I'm like, we can do this

0:24:50.940 --> 0:24:58.649
<v Speaker 1>with everything, everyone. We can do this with everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think what I'm finding so special about this conversation is.

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<v Speaker 1>When we're using words that have become so popular, like

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:23.940
<v Speaker 1>manifest or even spell work or affirmation or all of

0:25:24.010 --> 0:25:28.190
<v Speaker 1>these words that we're using sometimes for, and excuse me,

0:25:29.410 --> 0:25:33.310
<v Speaker 1>this does sound like judgment, but just my observation, what

0:25:33.350 --> 0:25:38.780
<v Speaker 1>we use for ultimately frivolous things in relation to like

0:25:38.859 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>our greater soul journey. But you can use this to

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:51.180
<v Speaker 1>heal bigger things, like to really get to the root

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:55.750
<v Speaker 1>of the root and not just look to acquire other

0:25:55.850 --> 0:25:59.770
<v Speaker 1>mass for the work that's undone. You can put that

0:25:59.850 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>level of intention and manifestation in creating moments like Tracy

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>just described to us to break real generational cycles in

0:26:11.340 --> 0:26:18.620
<v Speaker 1>your life and patterns and shame and harm and completely

0:26:18.740 --> 0:26:26.219
<v Speaker 1>reorganize your body, your heart, your brain around an entirely

0:26:26.290 --> 0:26:27.210
<v Speaker 1>different way of being.

0:26:29.660 --> 0:26:30.020
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:26:30.180 --> 0:26:34.900
<v Speaker 2>And, you know, thousands of years ago, there were sages

0:26:35.020 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and scholars who wrote about how to do this. They

0:26:39.290 --> 0:26:44.310
<v Speaker 2>wrote about these practices and the stains of the mind

0:26:44.730 --> 0:26:48.429
<v Speaker 2>and the imprints that happen and how we kind of

0:26:48.490 --> 0:26:52.430
<v Speaker 2>double down on those imprints. And when those imprints happen

0:26:52.470 --> 0:26:55.990
<v Speaker 2>to us, and we can think about that as a mask, right,

0:26:56.510 --> 0:27:01.450
<v Speaker 2>that something happens. And it becomes a coloring. And if

0:27:01.510 --> 0:27:07.750
<v Speaker 2>the coloring becomes concretized, it becomes our personality. And then

0:27:07.790 --> 0:27:13.030
<v Speaker 2>we begin to believe that we are the personality. And

0:27:13.070 --> 0:27:16.790
<v Speaker 2>we forget about the true light inside of us. We

0:27:16.850 --> 0:27:19.470
<v Speaker 2>forget about the little girl who got on the bus,

0:27:20.130 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>who was joyous and happy. And then after that experience,

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 2>felt like they needed to be invisible in order to

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:28.379
<v Speaker 2>be safe.

0:27:29.190 --> 0:27:29.490
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:30.350 --> 0:27:30.689
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:27:31.869 --> 0:27:33.850
<v Speaker 3>So we we have tools.

0:27:34.090 --> 0:27:37.909
<v Speaker 2>And I love that you use the word frivolous because

0:27:37.990 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of times in this contemporary

0:27:42.700 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of wellness culture, they do become frivolous. Yeah.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 3>And these things have power. Yes. If you know how.

0:27:51.300 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>How to use them, they have a lot of power

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.290
<v Speaker 2>and we have to be careful with that power. We

0:27:58.330 --> 0:28:01.250
<v Speaker 2>can't be distracted. We have to be present.

0:28:03.290 --> 0:28:06.410
<v Speaker 1>We have to be present with it now more than ever.

0:28:06.490 --> 0:28:12.330
<v Speaker 1>My God, this moment, this moment, this moment. Tracy, I

0:28:12.350 --> 0:28:15.949
<v Speaker 1>would love to ask for someone listening that is ready

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:20.020
<v Speaker 1>to kind of invoke the sacred or begin to feel

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>a bigger connection in their lives that hasn't yet started.

0:28:24.980 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>How can one invite the sacred into their lives?

0:28:29.859 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Hmm. By creating a pause, deciding that you have to

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:40.500
<v Speaker 2>honor the pause, the sacred is in every moment, right?

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.710
<v Speaker 2>So it's not like we have to go looking for her,

0:28:45.010 --> 0:28:46.810
<v Speaker 2>but we feel like we have to go looking for

0:28:46.850 --> 0:28:47.990
<v Speaker 2>her because we're too busy.

0:28:49.530 --> 0:28:50.230
<v Speaker 3>We're too busy.

0:28:51.170 --> 0:29:00.330
<v Speaker 2>So making time and taking, um, Three minutes, first of all,

0:29:00.460 --> 0:29:06.450
<v Speaker 2>three minutes to just sit in silence, to let that

0:29:06.510 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 2>silence offer you some words, some thoughts in your heart,

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:21.860
<v Speaker 2>but making time to invite the sacred in, making time

0:29:21.940 --> 0:29:24.930
<v Speaker 2>to observe the sacred is the most important thing. It's

0:29:25.010 --> 0:29:26.290
<v Speaker 2>not anything complicated.

0:29:27.350 --> 0:29:29.630
<v Speaker 3>That we have to do. We just have to slow down.

0:29:30.170 --> 0:29:32.180
<v Speaker 3>We have to pause. We have to notice.

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:36.550
<v Speaker 2>We have to listen. We have to allow ourselves to feel.

0:29:36.570 --> 0:29:43.270
<v Speaker 2>And being in nature, if you're someone who's close to

0:29:43.330 --> 0:29:48.020
<v Speaker 2>nature or likes to be with nature, being in a

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>reciprocal relationship with nature, because a lot of times that's

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.990
<v Speaker 2>something somebody wants to feel better, right? And they say, oh,

0:29:57.010 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to the beach or I'm going

0:29:58.580 --> 0:30:00.140
<v Speaker 2>to take a walk or I'm going to go on

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.580
<v Speaker 2>this beautiful hike that I love so I can feel better.

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 2>You're calling in the sacred right there. But part of

0:30:08.100 --> 0:30:11.340
<v Speaker 2>the issue is that when we're in this relationship with

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:18.110
<v Speaker 2>the sacred, with nature, we're also in an extractive relationship

0:30:18.950 --> 0:30:21.590
<v Speaker 2>because we want to be in that relationship so that

0:30:21.630 --> 0:30:26.350
<v Speaker 2>we can feel better. But we don't often offer anything back.

0:30:28.620 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And so offering back our gratitude, offering back our love,

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>our appreciation of prayer, a physical offering of flowers or

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:47.060
<v Speaker 2>food or something that has value to you, to leave

0:30:47.100 --> 0:30:52.500
<v Speaker 2>an offering, that lets the sacred know that you're now

0:30:53.260 --> 0:30:59.090
<v Speaker 2>asking for a deeper relationship. And you can receive the

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:04.790
<v Speaker 2>blessings of those relationships, again, by continuing to pause and

0:31:04.850 --> 0:31:09.210
<v Speaker 2>making an offering. An offering in the way of just

0:31:09.550 --> 0:31:13.820
<v Speaker 2>your own appreciation, your own gratitude for the beautiful hike

0:31:13.860 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 2>that you have or the beautiful beach that you have

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:17.340
<v Speaker 2>at your disposal.

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:20.060
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

0:31:20.700 --> 0:31:21.180
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Nothing more.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I think I will let that serve actually

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.570
<v Speaker 1>as the soul work for this episode. I usually at

0:31:32.590 --> 0:31:36.910
<v Speaker 1>the end of every episode ask our guests to share

0:31:37.330 --> 0:31:41.130
<v Speaker 1>soul work, something that can be used as integration for

0:31:41.210 --> 0:31:45.410
<v Speaker 1>everything that everyone just heard. And it feels like that

0:31:47.140 --> 0:31:53.010
<v Speaker 1>is the perfect way to integrate this episode together. Can

0:31:53.050 --> 0:31:56.090
<v Speaker 1>I hold that there? Can I make that?

0:31:56.130 --> 0:31:57.790
<v Speaker 3>Please, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>If we can do that a couple of times a week,

0:32:01.490 --> 0:32:03.790
<v Speaker 2>you will see changes in your life.

0:32:04.850 --> 0:32:06.010
<v Speaker 3>I promise you that.

0:32:06.490 --> 0:32:06.810
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:07.630 --> 0:32:07.910
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:32:08.430 --> 0:32:13.170
<v Speaker 1>Wow. There is a lot of deep, true power in

0:32:13.190 --> 0:32:16.690
<v Speaker 1>the words spoken in this episode. And I hope everyone

0:32:16.730 --> 0:32:21.020
<v Speaker 1>listening will take a chance to really just try that.

0:32:22.340 --> 0:32:29.180
<v Speaker 1>Just practice. Just give it an opportunity and don't judge it.

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>And then try again the next day and then see

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>how it can slowly build and open and your own

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.100
<v Speaker 1>comfort level with doing some of the things that have

0:32:39.140 --> 0:32:42.950
<v Speaker 1>been expressed in this episode and that are in this book.

0:32:44.310 --> 0:32:48.710
<v Speaker 1>Everything connected to Tracy. Her past books, this current one,

0:32:49.010 --> 0:32:52.730
<v Speaker 1>is linked in the notes of wherever you are listening

0:32:52.780 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to this episode. So on YouTube and on Apple, Spotify,

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>all the places. You can scroll down and link. Her

0:32:59.900 --> 0:33:05.420
<v Speaker 1>latest book, Living Ritual, infused each day with purpose and spirit,

0:33:06.030 --> 0:33:11.890
<v Speaker 1>is available everywhere now. Definitely add this to cart. Move

0:33:11.970 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>slowly with it. And just see what starts to arise

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<v Speaker 1>and take form in your life and unfold so beautifully. Tracy,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining us on Deeply Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me, Debbie. So honored to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. We'll be back next week, everyone. Namaste.

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<v Speaker 2>Namaste.

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