1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you are listening to the 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast. So, unless you have been living under 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: a rock, you have heard about Love Is Blind on 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: Netflix if you've not seen the show. Basically, there are 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: a group of guys and a group of girls who 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: all go on dates with each other in sound proved 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: pods with a wall between them and thus never seeing 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: the person they are on a date with. After a 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: short amount of time, the couples that become interested in 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: each other also become engaged and are allowed to see 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: each other for the very first time. If both members 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: agree to the coupling, they then go on a honeymoon 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: type vacation in Mexico, and if they survived the honeymoon, 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: they go back to the real world where they live 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: together for four weeks in some sort of semi real 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: life situation. After that four weeks come to the wedding, 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: where each person decides if they want to continue on 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: this path together and mary. The end results are supposed 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: to prove whether an emotional connection site unseen makes love 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: truly blind. This week, my guest is one of the 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: best members of the show, Kelly Chase. Kelly is a 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: life and wellness coach in Atlanta, and I asked her 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: to give us the backstory of casting, the details of 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: falling for her love interest on the show, and what 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: happened between them after the show that we did not see. 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Be warned if you haven't seen the show yet, this 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: episode is full of spoiler alerts. Here's our conversation. Okay, 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: so Love is Blind has like become this huge global 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: fan favorite, and especially I think during times of social 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: isolation just because of coronavirus, I think it's only going 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: to go up. Did you guys actually think that when 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: you were filming this would have this huge impact that 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: it has and become such a phenomenon. No easy answer 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: is no. No, I mean and I I really didn't 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: be the wild thing is I mean, obviously you want 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: someone's you know, creation to be successful. Um, but no, 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: I never thought that this would blow up to the 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: degree that it has. I mean, I guess having a 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: platform such as Netflix, I mean does kind of put 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: you out there more. But with that said, I mean, 41 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not even one to like really watch 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: reality TVs. So you know that I know that there's 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: other people out there that you know, just that don't 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: but it's so funny as far as like hearing just 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: like feedback from people there. Like I've had so many 46 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: people either comment or you know, friends of mine even 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: just saying like, yeah, I'm not normally like I normally 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: don't watch reality TV, but I'm so hooked. I got 49 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: so addicted. I started watching it because I knew you 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: were going to be on it and like, oh my god, 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I can't now I'm telling everybody about it. Yeah, So 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: it's it's just wild. I mean, I love the fact 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: that it was successful obviously for the creators and for 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: us to I mean, it's it's been great. It's it's 55 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: interesting because everyone's like, how's your life changed? And I'm like, 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't feel any different, but I 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I guess it is a lot 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: more followers on Instagram, Yeah exactly. I mean, yes, like 59 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: that part has changed. Yeah, when when we were able 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: to be social. Um, I mean there are people that 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: have recognized me um or I get the look like 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I know that I don't know how Yes, 63 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: I think the thing about Netflix that's so interesting is 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: they literally set you up to binge watch, you know, 65 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: like I got into the first episode, but then it 66 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: was like, all right, let me try the second. And 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: then I was like, okay, I'm going to try the third. 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have to watch the fourth. You know, 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: by the fifth episode, I was so connected to you guys, 70 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: I did. I felt like I knew y'all. Yeah. I 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: think that's that's how a lot of people felt too, 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: like they were so emotionally connected. Yes, well, let's talk 73 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: about it. I'm so curious just about the backstory of 74 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: this show, in particular, like how did you get casted? Yeah, 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: so my story is different than I feel like most 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: because I feel like other other members they were sought 77 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: out through Instagram or something sometimes social media platform. Um. 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: But I particularly so years ago, like when the Married 79 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: at First Sight U show was being casted for like 80 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the first season of mered at First Site. They also 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: filmed out here in Atlanta, and um, one of my 82 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: ex boyfriends. So the ex boyfriend that I referred to 83 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: as the one I was like infatuated with on the show, 84 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: it was him. I mean, this was like eight years ago, 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: seven eight years ago. Um, anyways, I got a text 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: message from him. This was like a year, year and 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: a half after we broke up, and he was like, hey, um, 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: I gave some casting director your phone number or your information. Um, 89 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: I can't do this because of my job, but I 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: thought you'd be good for it. For married at first 91 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: sight sight, I looked that your ex boyfriend is the 92 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: one referring you. I thought it was so. I thought 93 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: it was so funny. So yeah, so he did that, 94 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: and anyways, I went through a few interviews with Meredith 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: first site and then obviously I realized the whole concept 96 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: of that show, and I was like, my mom would 97 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: murder me. So I didn't do that. So when they 98 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: were starting to obviously cast for this show, um, they 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: called me and we're like, hey, we still have your 100 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: information on file. Are you still single? Are you still available? 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, what's up. Yeah it was 102 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: the same casting people. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, so they 103 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: did cast everybody. Um, like I said, I know, a 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: couple of people were sought out through their like Instagram 105 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: profiles or something. I don't know. I don't know how 106 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: they selected them. I don't know if it was I 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: don't know, because it wasn't like we all had like, 108 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: you know, like a strong following back then you know, 109 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: so it wasn't like we had like a high number 110 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: of following there or some that had like, you know, 111 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty people following them. So I don't 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: know how that everybody was sought out though, So it's interesting. 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: So then once you got casted, I mean once once 114 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: you started the conversations even and you realized what the 115 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: show was going to be, were you at all hesitant? 116 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: Are you just like guns blaze and let's do this. 117 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: I am in Um, I was hesitant. I was going 118 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: through the process. But I mean I honestly was very rehesitant. 119 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: I think more or less because of my positive presence 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: online of being a health coach and everything. Like I 121 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: was like they could take this and spin it and 122 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: make me look like the villain and made me look 123 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: so terrible or whatever. And you know, I had like 124 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: one of the Catholic directors, she had a you know, 125 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: a conversation with me and she was like, oh, we 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: can't make you say anything you don't say and I 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: was like, you're right, yeah, but but yeah, so but 128 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: she was super sweet and kind of talked me through 129 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: everything because I did, um, you know, speak up on 130 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: those hesitations and reservations that I had, and I was 131 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: just like, I mean, I think the concept is brilliant. 132 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: I think it's amazing because and for one, I think 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: the reason one of the reasons why I did pursue 134 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: it was because I was one on like a personal 135 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: like self discovery journey, and I was like, this is 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: super cool to like really get to know someone side 137 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: unseen and like really tap into like the communication aspect, 138 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: and that's something thing that a lot of people just 139 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: don't do. They don't know how to communicate effectively. So 140 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: I thought that was really cool. And then on the 141 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: hind side of things, or on the flip side, I 142 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: was like, you know, a lot of my girlfriends since 143 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: that boyfriend, I guess I mean, like, Kelly, all the 144 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: guys you've been trying to date or lease like model 145 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: looking guys, like you're never gonna like you're not going 146 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: to marry one of them. That's interesting though, that is 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: a really interesting thought. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, You're not 148 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: going to marry these guys who are just like full 149 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: of themselves and blah blah blah bah blah, like you know, 150 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: so it was almost like I was like, I want 151 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: to do this almost like proved to my friends that like, 152 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: looks don't really matter at all, So stop telling me 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: that that's all I'm after, because it's not true, Like 154 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: and it's never been true. Like every guy that I've 155 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: ever actually been in a relationship with, it's because of 156 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: their personality. I mean, I would not stick with someone 157 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: just because they were like pretty and treated me like shit, 158 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: Like right, you know, so you actually were It was 159 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of you were going in as an experiment almost, 160 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: and because I was going to ask you if you 161 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: were actually looking for love? I think when I was 162 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: watching the show, I was like, do these people just 163 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: want to be on TV? Or are they legitimately looking 164 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: for love? Yeah? I definitely was looking for love. Yeah, 165 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: if you're out there listening, hit her up. Yeah. I 166 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: mean it was just like, you know, if you don't 167 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: make a connect, this is what I thought process. I'm 168 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: a very big picture and I was like, you know, 169 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: if I don't make a connection with someone on the show, 170 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: who's actually going through this experiment too, who knows if 171 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: their friend is looking for someone you know or something? 172 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, there's always when you 173 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: put yourself in an opportunity, it always creates another opportunity, 174 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: and that's what I I love that. I think the 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: universe does respond to when we open ourselves up that way. 176 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: Just like you're saying, yeah, absolutely, okay, So can you 177 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: tell us on you know, just a daily basis perspective, 178 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: like what was actually happening? Like how many times? How 179 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: many people were you talking to in a day? Yeah? 180 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,479 Speaker 1: So there were thirty total of us, like fifteen women 181 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and fifteen men, and so like the first day, I'd 182 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: probably say, the first couple of days, you're actually you 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: are talking to all of them. Um. So I had 184 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: fifteen dates the first day, and then um, we did 185 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: have date well we always had day dates, but sometimes 186 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: we had night dates to um. And with that, like 187 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: the first I think our first speed dating round was 188 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: like seven minutes, Like we only had seven minutes. Yeah, 189 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: it was really fast. Seven minutes times fifteen guys. So 190 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: it's a good all day, you know, it's ok um. 191 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: But then the as I guess, we kind of went 192 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: through like a process of elimination in a sense of 193 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: like who we were actually connecting with, and then our 194 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: dates got longer and therefore we were able to communicate. 195 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: So I think our longest date was like an hour 196 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, it was an hour and a half. 197 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: You have go ahead. Oh no, I was just gonna say, like, 198 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: we didn't know who we were going to be talking 199 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: to though, So it wasn't like they told us like, oh, 200 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: we're you're going on a date with Kenny today. It 201 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: was like, okay, you're you're going on a date and 202 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: you have no idea who would be in the room, right, 203 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: We didn't know. So did you have any like terrible 204 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: or awkward interactions like just completely like are you're sitting 205 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: there silent or anything? There was? I would say that 206 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: there was maybe like two that I just kind of 207 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: felt a little uncomfortable because they one was trying to 208 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: um just ask a lot of physical features, like a 209 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: physical features, and I'm like, you're missing the point that 210 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: that actually happened on like on one of like the 211 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: first episode. I think I think he did the same thing, 212 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Like this guy did the same thing to Lauren like 213 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: talk asking her if she was black or something. Yeah, 214 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: it was that same guy. Yeah, Like what you're missing 215 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: the whole point. So like that was interesting. I mean 216 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: he just straight out of the gate, like so what 217 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: do you look like, I'm like, but um, but then 218 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: I think there were a couple too that like start 219 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess they started to like talk 220 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: about like sex or something, and I was like, hold up, 221 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what your favorite color is. Yeah, 222 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. So it was I didn't not that. 223 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: I I feel very comfortable talking about sex stuff. Obviously 224 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: I did it on air, but um, it was just 225 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: too soon. I hadn't even formed like any type of 226 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: connection with that person, right, And it's also like you're saying, 227 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of missing the point, especially right out of 228 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: the gate. Yeah. Yeah, So I think those were like 229 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: the only like uncomfortable or awkward times, and that just 230 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: allowed me to eliminate that fast. Yeah. So if you 231 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: didn't know who you were going to see, like when 232 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: you start to actually click with somebody or enjoy the conversation, 233 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: I mean, how did that go? Were you just kind 234 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: of waiting and hoping producers would set you up with 235 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: them again? Um? Yeah? Wow, okay, Yeah, I mean we 236 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: we all kind of had to, um, I guess like 237 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: talk about or summarize, you know, like, oh, how the 238 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: date go? And I like, I'm sure that you know 239 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: the team was listening in on that, and so they 240 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: did like to to like connect you with further. So 241 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: how okay, Well, first of all, how long was this 242 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: whole process? Was it just it was six weeks? Did 243 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: I read that somewhere? Um? Seven weeks including the weddings. 244 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's so fast. When when in the 245 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: process did you start to realize that you had feelings 246 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: for Kenny? You know? I would I mean when we 247 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: were in the pods and the pods life was actually 248 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: probably technically like a week long, that's it. Yeah, Oh 249 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: my god, Okay, I thought it was longer for some reason. No. No, 250 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: So we did the Pods for like a week, and 251 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: then we went to Mexico for you know a handful 252 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: of days, and then we like all moved in together 253 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: and lived together for like, you know, the next three 254 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: and a half four weeks. So yeah, but I would say, yeah, 255 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: definitely in the Pods, I mean obviously that's where everyone 256 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: started to like make their connections. Um, but it was 257 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: probably the second or third day. Um, I don't. I 258 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: just like felt I really did feel like I had 259 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: known him for a while. Like it was just very 260 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: comfortable conversations that we would have um. And so it 261 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: was interesting because when our date was over, you know, 262 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: we wanted to keep talking. Yeah um, you know you 263 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: know it may have only been in like a twenty 264 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: minute you know, date time frame, and so we're like, no, like, 265 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I want to keep talking to you. And so it 266 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: was interesting because sometimes, like I said, we would have 267 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: those night dates and again we didn't know who was 268 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: who was going to show up in those night dates either, 269 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: but we were just like, oh my god, maybe because 270 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: we made such a good conversation you know earlier today 271 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: to feel like set us back up tonight, and when 272 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: it did happen, that was great. But then if it didn't, 273 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: were like, dang it, we have to wait to talk 274 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: to that person again. So it's interesting. It was like 275 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: we were like craving each other. I was gonna say, 276 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: it's almost like a little bit of torture too, because 277 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: if you in real life really start liking somebody, then 278 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: you know you can keep communicating or you know in 279 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: your next state is going to be especially if it's mutual. 280 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: But this is like this thing that you like, you 281 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: just are kind of waiting. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's interesting 282 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: because now, um, how I have developed in my own 283 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: personal dating life, you know, I get it, Like there 284 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: have been you know, all of my girlfriends in the past. 285 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: I think this is just like a standard memo to 286 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: every woman, you know, like don't reach out to him, 287 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: let him reach out to you scenario, you know. And 288 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I but I was wanted to like not really practice 289 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: that in the past, like I'm like, no, if I 290 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: want to talk to someone, I'm going to talk to them. 291 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: And but anyways, in the last year, probably since that show, 292 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: I have began to practice that and it does work. 293 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: What do you mean more well, I just feel like, Okay, 294 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: so if you you know, if they reach out to you, 295 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: obviously that means that they want to talk to but 296 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: then just just wait and like wait it out, like 297 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: as as much as you want to like tell them 298 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: about thing or whatever. I just like maybe it's in 299 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: the beginning stages of your dating and all, like relationship 300 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: per se, but like your beginning stage is just kind 301 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: of like let them chase you, like definitely let them 302 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: chase you, because if you're available too much, then they're 303 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: like guys are just so simple minded. I feel like 304 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: they're just like, Nope, she's available. I don't you know, 305 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: it's like they need that game and they need that 306 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: like Chase or whatever. So it's almost like, how I'm 307 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: implementing this now thing that I should have been doing 308 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: my entire dating life. Um, it's just so interesting. I'm like, 309 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: that's almost like how it felt though in the Pods 310 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: in that situation, because it's like I obviously we couldn't 311 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: you couldn't communicate, but it's like okay, but like when 312 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: we did, it was almost like this like I don't know, 313 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: they say something about it. Um, I was listening to 314 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: some kind of podcasts, I guess, but it's almost like 315 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: a orgasm kind of thing, like you're just like waiting 316 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: and waiting. It's like an addition, like you expeed that 317 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: craving and then it's like, okay, great, it's just so interesting. 318 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's how it's felt. Like. It 319 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can't wait to hear from him. 320 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: When is he going to reach out? But obviously we 321 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: were in pods so well, and being controlled by someone 322 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: else with that it's fascinating. I mean, I honestly I 323 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: did not realize that. I thought you guys could say 324 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: I want to see this person or really kind of 325 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: dictate who you were talking to. So that's really interesting. 326 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: What a practice of, like I mean, it's not even 327 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: self control, you just have like no choice. Yeah. Yeah, 328 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: it's a practice of like surrendering, yes, yes, not having control, yeah, 329 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: just like letting the process happen. Yeah about Okay, So 330 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: what would you say to a viewer that's like screaming 331 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: at their TV? Going, I mean, especially now that I 332 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: know it was a week that you guys were in 333 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: the pod, so going like you guys are getting engaged. 334 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's insane. Yes, so yes, you agree with us? Yeah, 335 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean I granted. I mean, I mean we didn't 336 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: get to watch the show before anyone else shop either, 337 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: so like when I really yeah, so when it when 338 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: it dropped in Netflix, it was that was when we 339 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: watched it first. It was so funny because like I 340 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: knew that it was gonna like launch at like three 341 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: am Eastern times, and I just couldn't really sleep the 342 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: night before. I think it looked like an hour and 343 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: then I was like up and just my brain was 344 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: going in all different directions. So I was like, well, 345 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: it's too thirty and might as well to stay up. 346 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: So I watched like I watched the first few episodes 347 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: before I went to work, but I was like glue too. 348 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, just because I didn't 349 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: see I mean obviously I like heard the backstories from 350 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: the girls, you know, but I didn't see the stories 351 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: actually play out, Like I didn't know like what actually 352 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: was happening, you know, with everyone else's story. So it 353 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: was cool for me to watch everyone else's journeys. But yeah, 354 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean getting engaged, you know, within a week. Yeah, 355 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone can think that we're crazy. I don't know, 356 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: it was just I mean for me, I just I 357 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: wanted to continue getting to know Kenny because obviously we 358 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: created such a special bond and created not everything was shown, 359 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: but um, we really did have a very like open communication, 360 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: very vulnerable, very transparent with one another, and it just 361 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: felt like very I don't know, like I said, like 362 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: we've known each other for a long time, how comfortable 363 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: our conversations were. So we just really wanted to continue 364 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: with that and see where everything went. I mean, is 365 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: that how you were looking at it, Like you were 366 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: looking at it as to continue dating or did you 367 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: actually think, like I'm going to stay with this man 368 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: for the rest of my life a little bit of 369 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: both because yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I guess 370 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: when you're yes and I don't know how to explain it, 371 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: but you like don't make yes because like as far 372 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: as like the dating part goes like okay, like what 373 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: if like when we get to like the altar, like 374 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: we realized like, hey, you know, we just need more time, 375 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: but we don't want to get married right now, you know. Um. Obviously, 376 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: again our conversations are communication or connection was so strong 377 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: that that could have been the way that it went. Um. 378 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: But on the flip side, I mean, if in those 379 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, five six weeks we really like they started 380 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: to evolve a run further with us, and obviously we 381 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: would have both said yes, you know, I could go. 382 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: So it's just like it's interesting I almost can relate 383 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: to like Giugi and Damian story as far as it 384 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: being at that moment in time, it was kind of 385 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: like a you know, I don't want to marry you 386 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: right now, you know, um, but you want to keep 387 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: it open. Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. But I wanted to 388 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: keep it open. But so that was like the thought 389 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: going into my mind. I mean, like I said, we 390 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: just I've never know, we've ever done something like that. 391 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: It is wild. It's like, for some reason, it really 392 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: shook me when you said it was a week, and 393 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: I know that Tom is a lot more intensive, probably 394 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: and especially if you're just I mean you're just talking. 395 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: You're not doing any activities, you're actually just talking to 396 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: each other. So maybe that does make it feel like 397 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: a lot more in depth. They're connected, like you said, 398 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: but it's just so fast. Yeah. Yeah, and it was 399 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: because like you literally like the only thing entertaining us 400 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: besides each other's voices was like that like frozen looking wall. 401 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I mean otherwise, I mean, and so there 402 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: were no distractions, you know, like even if you're sitting 403 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: at home like sometimes like granted, I hope nobody's like 404 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: trying to have a strong conversation and they're like you know, 405 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: distracted by their phone or like boxing the TV or something. 406 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's just like there was literally no other distraction. 407 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: And it was interesting for me because the dates that 408 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: I went on where I wasn't making kind of more 409 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: we're having more serious conversation with people, and it was 410 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: just like super surface level. I was like, okay, like 411 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: I can do this like in regular life, Like this 412 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: is we're trying to like figure out who we're making 413 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: a connection with, Like I can't make a connection with 414 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: someone who's just having surface level conversations with me. So 415 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: it actually taught you a lot about even if this 416 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: didn't work for you, what you would like moving. Yeah, 417 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And it's interesting because like I've had, you know, 418 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: obviously some reflection and just thinking about like people that 419 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: are like using dating apps and that kind of thing, 420 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, like people are obviously we want 421 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: to be loved, we want to feel love. But there 422 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: are two reasons you're on a dating app. It's one 423 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: because you are seriously looking for a relationship, or two 424 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: you're heartbroken from past relationship. You're just you don't know 425 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: that you want to be serious, and then you get 426 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: fearful if you're things are getting kind of serious, like 427 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: and then you start to back away or the hey 428 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: backs away or something, and it's like, you know, there, 429 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: I feel like there's just like a lot of fear 430 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: in communicating with people because you don't want to be 431 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: judged or look down upon or whatever the case may be. 432 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: And it's like okay when you're using a dating app, 433 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: like although if I'm like, okay, if you really are 434 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: looking for a relationship, like, get to the point, don't 435 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: be afraid of like what you're gonna say, because that 436 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: person is going to either love you or they're gonna 437 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: be like exactly, you'll figure it out really fast. Yeah, 438 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: and they're obviously not your person if they're like, you know, 439 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: ghost to you on that you know kind of thing. 440 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: So it's like you could eliminate the back and forth 441 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: if you just get straight to the point. I think 442 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: that was what was so fascinating where I did really 443 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: get curious about this experiment because just like you said, 444 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 1: on dating apps, I think a lot of people have 445 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: up this armor. You know, we do this in real 446 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: life too, But it's like I'm gonna dress up, I'm 447 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna look this certain way, I'm gonna present these facts 448 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: about myself in my profile, and it's just based on 449 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: this exterior stuff. So this experiment really does eliminate that barrier. 450 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: So well, let's since the barrier eventually does come down, 451 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: let's talk about reveal day because this is fascinating. So 452 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: you like this person, you spend all this time talking 453 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: to them and you have no idea what they look like, 454 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're going to have 455 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: this big reveal. So like, what happened to you the 456 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: night before this day? Because I just can only imagine 457 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: the anxiety. Yeah there, I mean there was honestly like 458 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: the anxiety skyrocketed when I was standing in front of 459 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: the doors, you know, waiting on those doors to open. Um. 460 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the night before, there were just 461 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: so many thoughts going through my head. I'm I feel 462 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: as though I can wear my true expressions on my face. 463 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: So I was thinking like, oh my god, like what 464 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: if I'm actually not physically attracted to him and it 465 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: shows and the cameras I'm horrible. Um So I think 466 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: that was kind of one of my biggest concerns, um um. 467 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: But otherwise, I I don't know. I guess it wasn't 468 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: as nervous the night before as I was literally like 469 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: standing there like waiting to see him. I mean I 470 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: was shaking absolutely, Yeah, I just like my knees were trembling. 471 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: So was it more of you just said that it 472 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: was the biggest part was what if I'm not attracted 473 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: to him? But did it go through your head to like, well, 474 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: what if he's not attracted to me? Yeah, it did, 475 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: It did go through my head. And I mean, you know, 476 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: this was a part of my like you know, my 477 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: my like health journey personally myself. But I was not 478 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: like extremely confident in my body image back then either. Um, 479 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: like I am, I've lost like eleven pounds since the show. 480 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: I actually could tell that in the reunion by the 481 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: way you look a thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, 482 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: I just I was not where I wanted to be 483 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: and so yeah, absolutely, and knowing that we were, you know, 484 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: going to like Mexico and had to be innovating all 485 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: those things, like for sure, that definitely like that crossed 486 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: my mind. But then I was like, I don't know. 487 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: I guess I'm like I'm such a what a person? 488 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm like he fell in love with me for like 489 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: who I am and I know that that and that's 490 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: like how I was with him as well. You know, 491 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: It's like hell, even like I don't I don't even know, 492 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: Like I just didn't think that he was just going 493 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: to be like super unattracted. Yeah, but I don't know. 494 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I can definitely think someone is just adorable 495 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: just because of their personality. Yeah, I think a lot 496 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: of girls are like that. I did think it was interesting. 497 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean every cast member was attractive. It wasn't like 498 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: there was just anybody that we saw that was like 499 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't know about this person, you know. So I 500 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: mean I guess that's that was good for y'all casting wise. 501 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: But so then it's like when the doors open, what 502 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: did that actually feel like? Like? We I mean, when 503 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: you saw him, what was your internal reaction? Um? I 504 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: My first reaction was like, he's very cute and a 505 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: kind of like, um, I don't know, like not that 506 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: I was like making assumptions of like what do you 507 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: look like? But I guess I did kind of make 508 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: a visualization and it was kind of like what I thought, Like, 509 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be blonde. For what 510 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: did see? I was gonna ask that because it's like 511 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: you hear someone's voice for so long and you make 512 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: up in your head what they look like, right, Like, 513 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: so he kind of matched hers? Yeah? Yeah, he definitely 514 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: kind of matched it. So was it was it like 515 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: awkward or was it? I mean, did you guys did 516 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: the connection from the pods transfer into real life immediately 517 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: or did it take a minute? Um? I would say 518 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: I think it did take a minute. Um. I mean yeah, obviously, 519 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: just being honest, it did take a minute. Granted, like 520 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: when I saw him, like I was like, he's attractive, 521 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: he's cute. I wasn't like, oh my god, that guy's 522 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: dropped a gorgeous like. It wasn't like that. But that 523 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: was okay, you know. And when we like I met 524 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the quote unquote red carpet, like 525 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: he did, he did like get down on one knee 526 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: and like reproposed to me in person and that's what 527 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: he gave me the engagement ring. Um. And uh. Then 528 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: like we we actually he kissed me. He stood up 529 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: and he kissed me, and that was like, was like, whoa, 530 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: He's like a really good kisser. So you kind of 531 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: felt the chemistry there. I felt the chemistry, yeah, and 532 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: then we just kind of like danced. I think it 533 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: was more awkward just because it was the two of us. 534 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: We had just met, and there was like cameras on. Yeah, 535 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: the cameras are always the weird third party. Yeah, So 536 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: as we see you guys move on through the relationship 537 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: in Mexico, and then kind of get to know each 538 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: other more in person. The sexual part of your relationship 539 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: seemed to be a barrier between y'all, and you said 540 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: you just kind of wanted to give it time, like 541 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: for the physical part to catch up with the emotional part. 542 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: So looking back, what were the barriers there? Like, what 543 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: have you been able to look back on there? Yeah? 544 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely so, I mean okay, so with the whole like 545 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: us being intimate, we were, I mean we we kissed. 546 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: There were times I just I was so emotionally connected 547 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: to Kenny, but I was very much attracted to him. 548 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to kiss him like every five seconds. Um, so, 549 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean editing and show everything. But yeah, I mean 550 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: we we did. We had a really really strong physical 551 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: connection to um. But as far as that's like actually 552 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: having sexual intercourse because of the like personal journey that 553 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: I had been on, it's just coincidental and whatever we 554 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: want to call it. But I told myself, like after 555 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: I pretty much like I didn't really like date or 556 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: like hook up with many people like the year before, 557 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: I really was on this self love, self discovery journey, 558 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: and I told myself, like the next person that I meet, 559 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: like I'm not just I'm not doing things the way 560 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: I used to do it, and I want to like 561 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: actually like create that connection, that emotional connection with someone, 562 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: and whether it's three weeks, three months, however long it 563 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: takes for me to just feel really comfortable and kind 564 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: of just like making sure that that guy respects me 565 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: and loves me and everything too before I'd give myself 566 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: like that to him. Um, So that was kind of 567 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: like my path and it just happened to be that 568 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: Kenny was the next person, right, and so that was 569 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: literally it wasn't It wasn't like I was like, no, 570 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm not physically attracted to him. I don't want to 571 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: have sex to him. I I totally would have. But yes, 572 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: there were parts of me where like it was that 573 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: my mind and my heart were not connecting because it 574 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: was granted obviously just like a such a short time 575 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: of everything, Like I was like getting to know this 576 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: person and I really enjoyed getting to know him, but 577 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm like I almost like I didn't want to like 578 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: throw in that in the mix and mess up the 579 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: other like part. But I don't know, it was just 580 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: like really hard for me to. Again, I didn't want to. 581 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have sex until like later on, 582 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: I guess, But yeah, I mean that Actually that's very 583 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: interesting because you know, obviously when you're watching or when 584 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: I was watching it, did the way that it was 585 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: edited seemed like, oh, she's just maybe not physically attracted 586 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: to him, or the chemistry isn't there for her in 587 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: that way, and maybe you thought of him more as 588 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: a friend or that was kind of how I was 589 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: reading it. But that so that would have been an 590 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: interesting tip to know about you and where your personal 591 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: journey was, and you know, kind of like what was 592 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: happening internally for you that was honestly just seemingly completely 593 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: separate from Kenny. Absolutely, yeah, it was. It was nothing 594 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: to do with Kenny. It was completely just myself, my 595 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: journey and how I wanted to respect myself this time 596 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: versus in the past, where I may have jumped in 597 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: the sheets a little bit too soon and then things 598 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't work out. And I'm not saying that, you know, 599 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm I know that there are people out there who 600 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: are been married for ten years who they met and 601 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: had sex on the first date. Like it's you know, 602 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: it's just different, and everyone's attorney is different. Yeah, it 603 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: was just a personal thing. And I mean after that, 604 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: like I've dated since and the guy I dated after that, 605 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: literally I knew him for a long time. I still 606 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: did not have sex with him until three months after 607 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: we started dating. So it's just it's been the way 608 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: you wanted to move forward. Yeah. Interesting that that's the 609 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: weird part about TV shows. Um, so when we see 610 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: you guys, the way the show works for anyone who 611 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: doesn't hasn't watched yet, I do hope that you do. 612 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry for the spoilers in this, but the 613 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: way that we see it is that you guys go 614 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: to the altar and he says I do and you 615 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: say I love you, but I don't. That was how 616 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: it was played on the show. But what has since 617 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: come out There's been a couple of different things where 618 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: Kenny said that you guys agreed upon not getting married 619 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: before actually walking down the aisle, and then you've said 620 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: that you agree you didn't want to get married, but 621 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: thought kind of the same as some other couples, that 622 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: you guys would move forward with dating. So what can 623 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: you say about what happened after that? Maybe we didn't 624 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: see Yeah, absolutely, Um, I mean I can I can 625 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: talk to talk about what happened after UM. But yeah, 626 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think Kenny and I again, we had 627 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: such a great conversation or communication with one another that 628 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: we both agreed at that just during a leading the 629 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: weeks leading up to the wedding, that hey, you know what, 630 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: like I think that I don't think a wedding is 631 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: appropriate right now, but you know, perhaps dating, you know, 632 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: is the way to go. So so yeah, so we agreed. 633 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: We had conversations about dating UM, and that's what I 634 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: thought was going to occur. When after filming was over 635 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: the show had grabbed UM, he told me that he 636 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: basically was just like emotionally unavailable and needed to kind 637 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: of just take a step back from everything and give 638 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: us time to get back into the routine of our 639 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: own lives and and just kind of go from there 640 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: in a sense. And I mean I do remember him 641 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: saying to He was like, you know, just kind of 642 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: like over all of this and need to um distance 643 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: myself from the process and unfortunately, like you are a 644 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: part of the process. I find it so interesting he 645 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: used the word emotionally unavailable though, because like this whole 646 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: experience is basically playing on emotional availability, you know, it's 647 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: almost like the opposite of that. That's like, what do 648 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: you think the switch was. I think it was just 649 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean it well for me, I won't speak for him, 650 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: but for me, it was, Um, I could separate the show, 651 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: like the process of the filming and all of that. 652 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: I could separate that and my the way I was 653 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: personally feeling. And I don't think he was what do 654 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: you mean, I don't like, I feel like the show 655 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: just like the intensity of it. Um the I mean, 656 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they do ask you questions to tap into 657 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: your psyche and stuff. So I think that it was 658 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: just you know, emotionally exhausting and certain degree to a 659 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: certain degree, So I think that that may have just 660 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: been more of a like a you know, he was 661 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: just kind of over it. Yeah, so you know. But 662 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: but when he said that to me, like, because girls 663 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: are more emotional and we can compartmentalize our things a 664 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: little bit differently better within men, I don't know, but 665 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: I feel that way about women. Um, we can multitask that, 666 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, but when I heard him 667 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: say like like we need space, basically I heard I 668 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: don't want to date you. I don't want to be 669 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: with you. I took it personal, yes, and looking back 670 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: on hindsight, and we have had this conversation since the show, 671 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: but um, you know, looking back on everything, I was like, 672 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: you know what, he's a very self aware person. And 673 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people can see that about 674 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: Kenny Um. And because of his awareness, he knew what 675 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: he needed to do. And the thing is is like 676 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: I think we all have to remind ourselves like we 677 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: do have to put ourselves first and when we that's 678 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: what self love is. And it's not because you don't 679 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: care about the other person. It's just the fact that 680 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: you need to figure out what you what is best 681 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: for you and then you know, and I even said 682 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: that on the show. I was like, you know, what's 683 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: best for one person is actually best for everyone. And 684 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: it's interesting that I even said that, but you know, 685 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: it's just I just looking back, like I said, I 686 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: think although I was like heartbroken for like I would say, 687 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I just felt rejected. I felt heartbroken. Like 688 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: it wasn't like hey, tell like let's just take some 689 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: space for like two weeks and then like pick things 690 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: back up. It was like I need time and I 691 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: was like, what do you mean is that like a month? 692 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: Is that a year? Like what does that mean? Define? 693 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: I need a definitive answer. And it's funny how not 694 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: in control we were of saying how as soon as 695 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: like everything was over, it's like I needed that control back. Yeah, 696 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: it's so interesting, but I know that he did, like 697 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: he did what was best for him and honestly what 698 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: was best for the both of us. Because it's interesting, 699 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: like a month and a half maybe two months eater, Um, 700 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: I remember my mom, I mean great, and my mom 701 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: was there for me for everything. Um, but you know, 702 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: hearing me crying about Kenny, like after the show and everything, 703 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: like I'm just so sad because I still haven't talked 704 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: to him a blah blah blah. Um. But then I 705 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: don't know, like I said, it was like two months later, 706 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: my mom was like, how are you doing? Blah blah, 707 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: and I go, I was like, Mom, I'm actually fine, 708 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: Like I'm okay, Like I'm totally fine. This is a 709 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: month and a half out and you were like moving forward. Yeah, 710 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: I was like I'm moving forward. I was like I really. 711 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: I think it was more of the sting of like, wow, 712 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: I just talked to someone for six and a half 713 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: weeks and how I'm not talking to them anymore. It's 714 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: like I lost someone, you know, It's like I lost 715 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: my friend and they just like left and couldn't communicate 716 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: with them anymore. It was just a very bizarre thing. 717 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: Like it was almost like I said that, like addiction 718 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: in a sense, like I was like addicted to him, 719 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: addicted to talking with him. I made such a strong 720 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: connection and then it was like rug pulled out from 721 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: underneath my feet. That's how it felt. Right. It's such 722 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: a drastic difference to go from such a it's time 723 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: together to nothing. Yeah, it's absolutely nothing. I'm like, you're 724 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: just like dwindle this a little bit. Yeah, it was. 725 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: It was for the best, and you know, I'm like, 726 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: we have nothing but respect for each other, and like 727 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: I know, he has a girlfriend now, like super happy 728 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: for him, Like we're friends, Like everything's cool, even on 729 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: good terms. I think it's so interesting you keep bringing 730 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: up the word addiction, because as I was watching, I 731 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: literally thought to myself, I wonder, what part of this 732 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: is actually people feeling these feelings for each other, or 733 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: is it just like a lot of that idea we 734 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: all have about what love would bring to our lives, 735 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: you know, and like just chasing that. I think that's 736 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: like a thing where programmed to want to feel from 737 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: the movies and just all the Roman and you know, 738 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: novels or whatever it is you want to say that's 739 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: in our culture. But wonder what part of that was 740 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: included in this whole process. Absolutely, um, yeah, I don't know. 741 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think it's definitely hard 742 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: to say. I mean again, I think that's where I 743 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: can speak to like my head in my heart not connecting. 744 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: It's like like, yes, I was enjoying the love. I 745 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: was enjoying, feeling wanted and feeling you know, just yeah, 746 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: comforted all the time, and having someone to talk to 747 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: and having that companion that I've been longing for, and 748 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's like checking all the boxes in so 749 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: many different ways. But then it's like a part of 750 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: my head was like, hell, you've only known this person 751 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: for like three weeks. I was happening, so I wasn't 752 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: lining up yes exactly exactly. So it was like he's 753 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: checking off all the right boxes for what I look 754 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: for in a person, but like is he my person? 755 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: You don't know? So that I mean, and that was 756 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: my personal thing. And that's why, like I said, it's 757 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: I and I kept telling the producers. I was like, 758 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: my head in my heart are just not speaking up together. 759 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know why, because he's great, he's perfect, 760 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: he's a wonderful person. Why wouldn't I want to marry him? 761 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: Of course? But then it's also like, well, you have 762 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: cameras in your ace and you're going through a process, 763 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: and of course you, like we all want to just 764 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: be successful. So like, what part of that pressure were 765 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: you feeling too? I mean, I see why your head 766 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: would be like wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait 767 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: you know yeah you think about Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean, 768 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: and I honestly asked Kenny, like, I mean, when we 769 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: were able, like talk to each other, like before the wedding, 770 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: not like the day of the wedding, but you know, 771 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: just the days leading up, I was like, are you 772 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: are you sure you don't want to get married? Really? Yeah? 773 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: Because I, like I said that he was checking off 774 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: all the boxes. We had such a great relationship or 775 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: it seemed to be a great relationship. And yeah, I mean, 776 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: just like I said, we've we talked to the producers 777 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: and have those deep conversations about well, like you know, 778 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 1: like what why wouldn't you marry each other in a sense, 779 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: And I'm like because of time? And I kept saying 780 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: that like that was my reason. And they were like 781 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: people get married in like a day, like in Vegas, 782 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: like like, but do you want to be those people? 783 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be real, I don't want to be 784 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: that person. But yeah, so it was just like so interesting. 785 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: It's almost like I couldn't really come up with a 786 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: reason in a sense except for and then I finally 787 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: was like, well, I guess I'm not in love with him, 788 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: Like I love him, but I'm not in love with him, 789 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: so I guess. And they were like okay, well, yes, 790 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: that's a good reason not to marry. So why did 791 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: you say I don't? Like, did you guys agree beforehand 792 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: to that you would be the one to say I 793 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: don't and Kenny would say I do. Um no, Um. 794 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: I think it just played out that way. Yeah. Interesting. Okay, 795 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: So you are a wellness coach in Atlanta and I 796 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about your business with Chase, 797 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: life with Kelly, and um, how maybe this experience like 798 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: what you've taken away from this experience that you could 799 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: take back to your clients now and what your biggest 800 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: lesson you feel like you kind of learned through this 801 00:40:53,080 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, absolutely. Um, So definitely communication and being vulnerable, um, 802 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: whether whether you're on the UM you know, my client side, 803 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: or you know there's other like wellness coaches that I've 804 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: like teamed up with two and I'm like, share your 805 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: share your story because your story is going to resonate 806 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: with other people and vice person. I mean all the time, 807 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: Like it's just being vulnerable with people and that's like 808 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: what really helps you and your client connect with one another. 809 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: I mean every time I'm on a client call, I 810 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: don't go down like a rabbit hole of telling them 811 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: everything everything, but I helped to create that connection with 812 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: my client to make them feel heard and understood, like, hey, 813 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: I've gone through X, Y and Z, I understand where 814 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: you're at. UM. And so it's really important to be, 815 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: like I said, just very transparent and vulnerable with people 816 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: and truly communicate with them. UM. And then as far 817 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: as like obviously like dating life goes like the same thing. 818 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean my clients, I I have ones that are 819 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: married and or are single and just helping them like 820 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: be like you know, to reference the show. You know, 821 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: Like what helped me and Kenny was the fact that 822 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: we were so um we had such good open communication, 823 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: like how is your communication with your partner? How you know, 824 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: how do you feel about dating? Are you just having 825 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: surface level conversations like what do you really like is 826 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: you're in goal to get married someday? Or are you 827 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: still having the surface level conversations with this guy that 828 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: you've been dating for six weeks? You know. So, Um, 829 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: It's definitely have been able to apply a lot of 830 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: what I learned as far as the communication aspect goes, 831 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: um towards the coaching. Um after and after the show too. 832 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I always have to like shout my 833 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: girl out. But um, I hired a business in mindset coach, 834 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: like to two and a half three months after um 835 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: the show roundn't know, it was like yeah, it was 836 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: like actually like three weeks, not even a few months. Um, 837 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: it was like a few weeks afterwards. I hired a 838 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: coach because I was like, I gotta get myself back 839 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: in like my head in a better place after this 840 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: crazy experience for those crazy experiences. Yeah, and and I 841 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: mean granted she did. Her name is Aaron nicole Um. 842 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: But she did a lot of good things for my 843 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: business of course, but like my mindset, I was like, 844 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: Holy Christmas, Like it was just like the psychology of 845 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: like my behaviors and my fears and limiting beliefs, Like 846 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: she pulled all of that out of me. And so 847 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: how that just like tied into that communication and that vulnerability. 848 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: It's like even just like enhanced it even more. And 849 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: so I now use those same techniques with my clients 850 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: as well. When you were watching yourself, did you, like 851 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: what insecurities did that you know came up for you 852 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: during this process that maybe like even watching back, you 853 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: saw yourself in a different way than you anticipated. Did 854 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: that happen for you? Yeah? Absolutely it did. Yep. And 855 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: it's funny because I have only like all as far 856 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: as just like the way I was portrayed. All of 857 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: my friends and who know me, they're like, you know, 858 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: you showed up as yourself and we're so proud of 859 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: you for not being dramatic and not being crazy and 860 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: all these things and like just being true to you. 861 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: But I did have one girlfriend who was like how 862 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: I actually watched like the you know, one or two episodes. 863 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: She was like, I kind of had to turn it 864 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: off because it didn't it wasn't you. And I was 865 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: like interesting, and so I was understanding what she was saying, 866 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: and she was like, You've just had so much personal 867 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: growth since that show. She goes, and so like, looking back, 868 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to watch like that person just between the 869 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: actual aired aid and when filming ended, I bet right exactly, 870 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: And so like for me, I mean to answer your 871 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: question one obviously like me being self critical looking at 872 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: myself and being like Kelly, you were so puffy and 873 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: flamed and like bigger and like not overweight, but like 874 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, physically, I was not happy with the way 875 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: I looked on TV and certain you know clips. Um, yeah, 876 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 1: there was a physical insecurities and then um and then 877 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: also I feel like and it may have just been 878 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: the way things were like shown, but I felt like 879 00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't as outspoken and like it was most as 880 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 1: if I was like talking very like with with very 881 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: little confidence. Right, So there was a there there was 882 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: confidence in what I was saying. It was the fact 883 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: of like me just like being timid, trying to like 884 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: tiptoe my way around. Like even during that the conversation 885 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: that Kenny and I had about um, about orgasms and 886 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, having sex in the bed and stuff and um, 887 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: it was like I was uncomfortable and awkward talking about 888 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: that at that point. And like, now if you have 889 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: that same conversation with me, I would be talking to 890 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: you like I'm talking to you right now, like just 891 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: very fluid. And I mean, granted there were cameras on me. 892 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna say that's the part that I mean when 893 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: you're watching, it's like you remember it's on TV, and 894 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: so there's cameras. But what people don't see is like 895 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: when you guys are laying in the bed. I don't 896 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: know what your experience is like, but my experience in 897 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 1: reality TV was like there's three cameras in your face 898 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: and there's like three men holding those cameras. So there's 899 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: conversations are not things, and you're like, oh my god, 900 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 1: my mom's gonna see this, Oh my god, my grandmother, 901 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: like all of those things are going through your mind 902 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: as you're having this conversation. Yeah, it's true, definitely true. 903 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: A little more timid naturally, I think anybody would be right. Yeah, 904 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah for sure. Yeah. So has it helped you 905 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: to kind of find your voice again though in real life, 906 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: to be like, wait a second, this is me and 907 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,479 Speaker 1: this is what I stand for and here I am. Yes, 908 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: absolutely yeah. So if you if you could do it again, 909 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: would you do it? Are you giving that choice? Um? Yeah, 910 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: I think I would if there was I mean, I 911 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: guess I'm like, if there was not a wedding at 912 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: the end, like just like an engagement, I think it 913 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: would just be a lot less stressful. Um. I mean 914 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: I just yeah, so as a way to meet people 915 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: and maybe start a dating process, you would say, yes, yes, exactly, yeah, 916 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: like I think. I mean, like I said, the concept 917 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: is when I was pitched to me was just incredible, 918 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: Like oh, meeting making a connection based on people's emailans 919 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: and intellect, you know and intel. That's like okay, I 920 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: could deal with that. Yeah, I think it was. It 921 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: was just really hard um for me as far as 922 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: like the wedding part goes, because obviously I've never been 923 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: married and I've never had a wedding. Um, you know, 924 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: for you to be in a wedding dress and your 925 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,439 Speaker 1: mom and your dad to see you in a wedding 926 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: dress and you know you're not about to actually marry someone. 927 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: It was very emotional, and I was it was interesting 928 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: because I would tell me, like when I was watching 929 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: it with my friends, I was like, y'all, I want 930 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: you to like take note every time I'm about that 931 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: I am about to cry. I put a really big, 932 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: awkward smile on my face and they were like, oh yeah. 933 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Like my mom like came to, like, 934 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, seeing me the first time in the wedding dress, 935 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: and she like gives me a how my mom starts 936 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: crying and I was just like just smiling and like 937 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: talking like through my teeth because I was like, I'm 938 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: totally about to start falling right now. Like this is 939 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: so hard internally going crazy, but outside you were just smiling. Yeah, exactly, probably, 940 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: But it's funny because it's probably makes for like the 941 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: show to make me look like I'm not as emotional 942 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: and sad that I'm about to break this man's hard 943 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: on the right. So yeah, so much the process all 944 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: at once, and obviously the cameras catch it all. So 945 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: it's just an interesting experience. Um, okay, Kelly, where can 946 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: people find you? Because we did mention that you have 947 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: this wellness coaching called it's called Chase Life correct. Yes, yeah, 948 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: Chase Life with Kelly. UM. Obviously my first my last 949 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: name Chase. Yes, I love that name. I think it's 950 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: super clever. Thank you, thank you. But yeah, Chase Life 951 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: with Kelly. UM. Right now, everyone can pretty much just 952 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: find me on Facebook. Um. I have a Facebook group 953 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: called Chase Life with Kelly. UM. It is for women only, um, 954 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: just so that we can all like chat and gap 955 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: about women's things. And then also on Instagram at Chase 956 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: like with Kelly. And what kind of services are you 957 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: offering people? Yeah? So I am actually about to launch 958 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: a like Healthy Habits fit guide with which will be interactive. 959 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: It will have some journal prompts so work out or 960 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: to some nutritional advice as well as like mindset exercises 961 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: like affronation. Is that kind of thing? Um? So that 962 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 1: will be launching soon. Then I offer group coaching. I'll 963 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: be offering a group coaching program coming up as soon 964 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: as that guide launches as well. And then always I 965 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: have one on one coaching so that we can do 966 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: more of that deep dive personalized UM work. Yeah, and 967 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: you and I were talking a little bit before. Obviously 968 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: we are all in this isolation due to coronavirus. So 969 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: this is a really great thing for people to think about, 970 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: especially if you're struggling internally with being locked up. Like, 971 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: these are things you can do virtually, right, Yeah. Yeah, 972 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: all of my all of my coaching is done via Zoom, 973 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, all I have to have is just uh, 974 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: they're I mean people can do the zoom on their phone. 975 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to use your computer even 976 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: so just come to the meeting. We I mean as 977 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: far as like one on one coaching, I do like 978 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: sixty minutes session once a week so that we're you know, 979 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: constantly making progress on there for support, you know, in 980 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: between sessions as well. Um and we just I just 981 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: helped on a kind of like three sixty degree wellness level, 982 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 1: so helping you with your nutrition as well as like 983 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: what we refer to um as your primary foods, to 984 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: your exercise, your spirituality, career and relationships so how everything 985 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: ties together and finding a balance with everything. So you've 986 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: obviously had some pretty extensive experience in the last two 987 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: year or so, Yes, I have. I'm like, it's so 988 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: it's like fascinating for me, Like I mean, I've literally 989 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: had relationship issues. I've had financial and career struggled, had 990 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 1: weight and health journey. It's struggled. It's just like everything 991 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: decided to ship storm on me. But as I turned, 992 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 1: I turned my message into successes and that's what everyone else. Yeah, well, 993 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 1: I so appreciate you being here. I know all my 994 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: fellow love is blind fanatics do as well, like you 995 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: give a lot of behind the scene scoop, so we 996 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Absolutely. I appreciate you, you know, of 997 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 1: connecting and anyone has any questions just a living it. Yeah, 998 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: you guys, go check out Kelly Chase Life with Kelly 999 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: and she is all over the web obviously, so check 1000 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: her out. And thank you guys for listening. Yeah, thank you. 1001 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you've been listening to the 1002 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast. 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