1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: back with you and Buck. I don't know about you, 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,079 Speaker 1: but I was pretty I was pretty excited when I 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: saw the news today because this was one of those 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: throw the rundown, uh, throw the rundown out type pieces 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: of information that dropped as we were waking up this morning. Yeah, no, 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: it's it's it's kind of crazy. Anytime we get close 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: to cut down there, you're always going to have surprises. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't I don't know, Like I 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: still think four clock deadline closing in four o'clock Eastern 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Standard time. I think we may see a couple more. 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: But the news of Cam Newton being released by the 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: New England Patriots certainly kind of put the football world 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: on his ear for a minute, because I don't know 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: if anyone expected, not necessarily expected Cam to you know, 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: if he didn't win the job or whatever, like they 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: thought that was up in the air. But for Cam 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: to be released, I think he kind of caught everybody's 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: surprise when the news came down. All right, there's so 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: many layers to it, so let's start with the first layer. Um, 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, just Mac Jones winning the job and you 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: and you tweeted it out right when the when Cam 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: had to miss that time with the COVID protocols and 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: you we talked about it on the show. It's a 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: it's a philosophy, Buck that you've had going back a 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: long time. But as you think about it as a 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: player and in any job that you've held. So why 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: don't you, for those that maybe didn't catch that episode 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: or your tweets, share the Brooks philosophy of life right 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: here with everybody. So the philosophy of life is don't 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: let others get comfortable in your seat, because when decision 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: makers look at the future without you, they may go 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: and have a future without you. And so what happened 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: with Cam Newton is Cam Newton was in a very 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: contested battle with Mac Jones and by having whatever the 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: COVID protocol was the issue that he had, he gave 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: the Pages an opportunity to see Mac Jones as a 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: starting quarterback not only in a game, but it over 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: four days, two regular practice days, two joint practice days 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: where they really got a chance to kind of have 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: a dress rehearsal of mac Jones being QB one. So 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, and I know in front offices sometimes you 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: have a conversation like, hey, if this is the week, 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: let's let's put in a full game plan just to 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: see how mac Jones will handle it. So let's game plan, 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: let's scripted, let's put it together as if we were 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: going to play the Giants, and let's see how he 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: would handle all of that information. While by all accounts 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: when it came to the joint practices, he was shredding 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: the Giants, especially on the first day when people just 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: gave him glowing reviews on the way that he threw 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: it one on one, seven on sevens team drills, ball 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: didn't hit the ground. They're reports to him completing eighteen 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: consecutive passes at some point during the course of the day. 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: And at that that point, DJ st being like, oh, 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: this isn't good, Like this is not good. If he 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: goes and steps up, you know, at a moment's notice 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: and has a really good day and then you go 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: into the game and Cam got the first two series 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: didn't really do anything, didn't really expose him and those things. 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: Mac Jones comes in a very efficient and solid days work. 63 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: And so based on how the Patriots are constructed. You 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: look at Bill Belichick, He's looking at his team. Hey, 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: we know we have an offensive line, we know we 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: can run the football. Defensively, we're supposed to be better. 67 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: If it's close between a veteran and a young guy, 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: you always go for the young guy. And it was 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: too close for comfort. That's why mac Jones wins the job, 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: because the veteran has to be clearly superior then the 71 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: young guy for the guy to retain his job, and 72 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: it wasn't. And so that's why mac Jones is a starter. Yeah, 73 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: And that leads me to a couple of different uh 74 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: points of conversation on this thing too, because I think 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: if you're Bill Belichick and you look at this thing 76 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: in context of your division, and I tweeted this out 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: Buck and that you look at that division right now, 78 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: and I think we would agree, right Buffalo is the 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: class of the division right now. They want it. Last year, 80 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: they've got a you know, top three quarterback in the 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: NFL if you just go off, and I think Josh 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Dollants second m v P voting last year, it's twenty 83 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: five years old. They just paid him a boatload of money, 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: so they are all in committed to him. Now. The 85 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: only thing is, now that they've paid him the money, 86 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: it could cost them some guys trying to retain some 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: players going forward because they put a bunch of money 88 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: in the quarterback position. We've talked about this a lot. 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Now you look at the rest of this Division two 90 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: is on a rookie deal. Um, Now you look at 91 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: the Jets with Zach Wilson on a rookie deal, they 92 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: are positioned to load up around cheap quarterbacks and in 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: this next free agency class to be able to put 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: in all types of pieces, and Bill Belichick saying, hey, 95 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: I want in on this like it. Buffalo is the 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: best team. But now they've got the big quarterback contract. 97 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: These other two teams have the young quarterbacks that are 98 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: cheap that they can build around. Um, I gotta get 99 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: this thing started. Let's get mac Jones up and running 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: and get him rolling, and now we can load up 101 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: around him. This is already a really good, you know, 102 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: pretty good roster, and now we've got a chance with 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: cost control with that position. They always had it with 104 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Brady Like he never made what he what he was worth. 105 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Tom always took the discount. Now this is like a 106 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: double discount with where mac Jones was picked and how 107 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: little he makes. And it's a dream come true, Yes, 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: a dream come true if you know how to build 109 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: a team. And we always talked about you want to 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: get the young guy in the field so you can 111 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, where do we need to help him. 112 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: They have the two side end Son Henry and John 113 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: new Smith. Why receivers I just think are okay, kendred 114 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: Born and Nelson Aghilo. We'll see if they need to 115 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: upgrade that based on how those guys play over the 116 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: course of the season. Offensive line is solid, a collection 117 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: of running backs that can get it done, so much 118 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: depth and talented running back poist. And they traded away 119 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: Sonny Michelle. That tells you a lot that they gave 120 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: up one of their former number ones to continue with 121 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: the stable that they have. And then defensively, a veteran 122 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: laden defense that's very very talent, very versatile, and multiple, 123 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: so they can come at you a bunch of different ways. 124 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: I continue to stay on this point. This is the 125 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: early two thousand's versions of the Patriots when they won 126 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with guys like Antoine Smith playing running back, 127 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: David Patton, David Givens, Troy brown Um, kind of a 128 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: cast of no names getting it done at wide receiver. 129 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: They had Christian Fourier and Derrek Graham playing tied end. 130 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: A bunch of guys that nat We're saying, who what, 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: but that's how they want because at the time, the 132 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: strength of that defense was with h McGuinness and very 133 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: Briel and Bruski and those guys, and then it flipped 134 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: in the mid two thousands where it became more of 135 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: an offensive minded New England team. But this is a 136 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: style and a team that I believe Bill Belichick is 137 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: very comfortable playing with. And as you know, the only 138 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: thing they need Mac Jones to do is to not 139 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: mess it up, to get them in and out the huddle, 140 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: to get them into the right play call, and to 141 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: make I would say, forty five passes a game that 142 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: he's going to be asked to make forty five. He 143 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: only has to be good on forty five passes where 144 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: he has to make them big time thrills and make 145 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: big time decisions at that point. But this is gonna 146 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: be a team that they kind of work around the 147 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: quarterback as opposed to working through the quarterback. All right, 148 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a strange analogy, buck, but just 149 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: hang with me, Okay, just hang with me on this one. 150 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: There was a time, um we I got married right 151 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: before my senior year college and it was probably around 152 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: that time. It was in the in the late nineties, 153 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: early two thousand's or note have been late night mid 154 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: to late nineties when if you remember, we had kind 155 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: of gone from vhs to DVDs, right, so we had 156 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: a massed as anybody of our age, we had a 157 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: mass all these vhs is of all of our favorite movies. 158 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: My wife and I get to you know, you get married, 159 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: all your collection comes together. But I remember telling her 160 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: like CD this like everything's going to DVDs. So let's 161 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: move away from the vhs, throw those away, and we 162 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: gotta start collecting the DVDs. And I remember she was 163 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: reluctant because it's like the VHS works. Fine, we've got 164 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: a VHS player. I don't have to go buy a 165 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: DVD player. First of all, these DVDs, like are they durable? 166 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Like these DVDs could scratch and then they're ruined like 167 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: the vhs. I I know it it's safe, it's familiar, 168 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: it works, it's durable. I don't know what the DVD out. 169 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: You can do all this neat stuff with it and 170 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: fast forward, you can skip and all that kind of stuff, 171 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: but you know, you can get one scratch on it 172 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: and it's no good. Like that literally was the decision 173 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: that the forty Niners had to make with Kyle Shanahan. 174 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: We were talking about it. Mac Jones is gonna be there. 175 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, their Kirk cousins, He's very comfortable with him. 176 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan want an m v p uh playing this 177 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: style of of quarterbacks. So Matt Jones is there, he's 178 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: their VHS tape, right. They can they can just stay 179 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: with what's familiar, what's comfortable, and we can go there. 180 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: And Shanahan did kind of a bold decision when you 181 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: think about it. It was like, Okay, we're gonna go 182 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: into Trey Lance and I want to go into the future. 183 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Give me the DVD. And I know people are gonna say, oh, 184 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: it could get hurt and it won't work, but I 185 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: just think I can be I can do more with this. 186 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: This is where the future is going. So I'm gonna 187 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: choose the future over the familiar. And then when we 188 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: go to the Patriots. Now, I know, look, people will say, well, 189 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: they didn't have any option. There was none of those 190 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks were left when they picked. But they could have 191 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: kicked the can down the road and said, we'll get 192 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: our quarterback in another time. We're gonna hold out so 193 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: we can get one of these athletic quarterbacks we can 194 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: do all these different things with. And then and they said, no, what, 195 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: this is familiar. We've won a lot of games with this, 196 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: and so we're gonna go with familiar over maybe something 197 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: fancy in the future. Hey, I love it, and I 198 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: love the tweet that you put out because you described 199 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: it perfectly when we talk about future over familiar and 200 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: how everyone has to make that decision when you're trying 201 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: to determine, um, how do we want to go for 202 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: it at a quarterback position when we're sitting at a 203 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: cross roads. The San Francisco forty Nights and I think 204 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: they're worthy of a deeper discussion a little later in 205 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: the podcast when we talked about what they are doing 206 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: with Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo, but they certainly went 207 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: to the future, kind of a back to the future 208 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: approach because Skyle Shanahan does have some familiarity with doing 209 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: these style of offense that they want to run. He 210 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: did it with r G three, but that's not really 211 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: how he's normally gotten down as an offensive play called 212 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Kirk Cousins uh more traditional pedestrian type playmakers 213 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: at the position who do it that way. The Patriots 214 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: have a twenty year playbook that they have always utilized. 215 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: You and I can watch your Patriots game and we 216 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: can begin to check off what are the contingencies for 217 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: when they're playing in a game. And yesteryear when they 218 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: had Tom Brady, they're gonna open up the game and 219 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna open it up and they're gonna spread it, 220 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: or they're gonna run their regular offense. You stopped him, 221 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: you slow them down. One or two things are gonna happen. 222 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna go empty moving around. Tom Brady is going 223 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: to slow down the rush. He's gonna get it out 224 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: of his hands, and the offense will find the rhythm 225 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: that way. If they can't do that, what did they do? 226 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: They batten down the hatches. They played power football. They're 227 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: gonna run it, They're gonna throw off play action. In 228 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: the midst of all of that, there's some plays that 229 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: they typically like, uh bubble screens, uh, slow screens, things 230 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: that when we've been watching the pages for the last 231 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: twenty years, you're like, Okay, here's the checklist. It's a 232 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: laundry list of things that they're going to do until 233 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: they find what you can't stop, and then they sit 234 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: right there. That's what they do, very systematic. And Matt Jones, 235 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback who he's not Tom Brady, but 236 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: his playing style is more Tom Brady than anything else. 237 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: He can call the game from the line of scrimmage. 238 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: He is very comfortable doing the empty formation stuff. He 239 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: has experienced running play action and doing all of those 240 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: stuff that's very easy and familiar. He has to be 241 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: able to get them in the right run play. He 242 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: can do all of that. So if you're Josh McDaniels 243 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick, because you have won one a ton 244 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: of Super Bowls playing this way, you put on those 245 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: old loafers and you go back to say, hey, you 246 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: know what, this is very comfortable and familiar. We're going 247 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: to win the way that we've always won because at 248 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: least this way I know I have all the answers 249 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: to the test, and it's going to be it's gonna 250 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: be interesting to see where this goes with the future 251 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: of the position when it comes to the draft and evaluating, 252 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: because if you remember last year leading up to the draft, 253 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: one of the things we said about Mac appreciate all 254 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: that he does well right, the accuracy, the decision making, 255 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: the poise, all that stuff, leadership excellent, But what we 256 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: said was, if you look around the league, the only 257 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: currently successful pure pocket passers are the old guys who 258 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: have been around long enough to have the answers to 259 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: the tests in terms of having all the knowledge and 260 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: the experience where if you give me this, I can 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: get that. You you kind of bring extra, You're gonna 262 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: overload me boom, I can get there because I don't 263 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: have my legs to bail me out if I don't, 264 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: if I don't see it correctly, and you get home 265 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: and the play is over with him. So now we're 266 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: gonna see is he truly Is he so advanced for 267 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: a young quarterback that he can operate like one of 268 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: those veterans and have the answers to the test. Because 269 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: you saw it in Giants game. I went back and 270 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: watch that tape. They smothered him a little bit in 271 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: that game when something wasn't there. He took sacks because 272 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the answers in his legs to be 273 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: able to get out of there. So he's got to 274 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: have the answers with his mind. So how quickly can 275 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: you get up to speed? I know, if you're playing 276 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: the Patriots early in the season, I think they open 277 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: up with the Dolphins right well, I mean exotic, exotic, exotic, 278 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: I mean I am, I am locking up where we're 279 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: taking our chances. We're gonna man up, and they are 280 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: coming from everywhere to try and smother him. Yeah, they 281 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: absolutely have to do it. And for the Patriots is 282 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: very h important that they get the game played a 283 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: certain way. I think their path to victory is a 284 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: very famiar path. I don't think they have many avenues 285 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: to be able to win games. I think they have 286 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: to play a certain style to get a control of 287 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: the clock, drain the clock. They have to be able 288 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: to run the football consistently. Defensively, they can't have many 289 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: cracks in terms of big plays or those things. These 290 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: this version of the Patriots does not want to play 291 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: a shootout. Um, when you talk about mac Jones and 292 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: you talk about the future and people being able to 293 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: determine how they go forward, we've said and I've used 294 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: the superhero analogy. Um, the rest of those quarterbacks taken 295 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: in the first round, they're all in the Avengers, right. 296 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: They all have superpowers. Trade Lands can move around and run. Uh. 297 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson has terrific arm talent. Justin Fields is uh mobile, 298 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: big body, beautiful, can make a bunch of things. Mac 299 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Jones is the one where you're like, man, he's really 300 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: dependent on everything around him. You called him iron Man. 301 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I called him all right man, because he's depended upon 302 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: the suit. He needs the suit, and in this case, 303 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: the suit is not only the weapons that they have 304 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: around him. In terms of the office line of running back, 305 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: the defense, the coaches coaching is part of the suit 306 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: when he goes to the lab, and that's like the 307 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: voice in the suit, like the voice. He's trying to 308 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: figure that out. Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels have to 309 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: really help Man by making sure that the suit is 310 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: fortified and the suit is upgraded as it continues to 311 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: go down this season. So I believe that this will 312 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: need to be the best coaching job that Belichick and 313 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: Josh mcgannons had done, because the quarterback that they're playing 314 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: with has some limitations from a physical standpoint. All right, 315 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: So when we look at it, we look at these 316 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, look at the three key quarterback class. 317 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is not going to be stopped by Gardner 318 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Minshew was not gonna he was gonna be a speed 319 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: bump on his way to the starting position. Obviously, you 320 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: just kicked Cam Newton, who's an m v P. You 321 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: cut him, which which again I think if you're going 322 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: to go with Mac Jones, I think it was a 323 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: smart thing. Just let Cam. He's too popular to have 324 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: him in the locker room you have. And that's what 325 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I would say, Like, here's the thing like when you 326 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: put a young guy in charge. It's very similar to 327 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: what happened in Carolina with Camp. They had to remove 328 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Steve Smith of the locker room so he could take 329 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: control of the locker room. Because Steve had a big 330 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: presence in the locker room. Well, in New England, Cam 331 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: Newton is all personality, all of that. You have to 332 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: remove that because it would prevent mac Jones from ever 333 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: evolving or growing into the QB one and the leader 334 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: that they need him to be. And so you can't 335 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: have Cam there as a backup, and Briant pr Rier 336 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: or jarst m those guys are more backup types. They're 337 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: non threatening to the starting quarterback. Yeah, we'll see what 338 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: happens with the Niners still TBD. As we're recording this, 339 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think we'd probably see Trey Lance in 340 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: some you know, in some packages. That's my opinion. I 341 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: know he's got a little thumb, a little chip I 342 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: think on his fingers thumb, So he's gonna be out 343 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: a week, But I still think we see him early 344 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: in the season at least in some way, shape or form. 345 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: So Jimmy looks like Jimmy at least held on to 346 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: for now. But did you see any of the tape 347 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: of that game in the series where they alternated in 348 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: and out and they did some of those things. Um, 349 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: I had a chance to, like not only look at that, 350 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: but I had a chance to kind of study and 351 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: go back from a historical perspective. The last time we've 352 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: seen something like that really in a a season game. 353 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: We're talking about Tom Landry and the Dallas Cowboys in 354 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: n Who is that that? So they alternated with Craig 355 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: and Roger Starbucks every other play in a game versus Chicago. 356 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: That team, though, won the Super Bowl right after the 357 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: name Roger star Back the quarterback. They went on the 358 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: team game winning streak and they won it. I do 359 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: wonder because of the way that they did it. DJ. 360 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: It's different when someone comes off the bench like Taysom 361 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: Hill does for a player two or whatever. But what 362 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: they were doing from a defensive standpoint that is that 363 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: is tricky because everyone's like, yeah, but you know when 364 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: Trey Lanston and they're gonna run these handful of players, 365 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Garofolo, they're gonna run these handful of players. 366 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: But yet when they're going in and out the game, 367 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: and then you add maybe a little pace and temple 368 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: and rhythm, I know, I can't even think about the 369 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: tendency sheet that you've given me all week because I'm 370 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: in survival mode. I just believe that Cal didn't he 371 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: couldn't help him stuff. Right the last preseason game, he 372 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just gonna give you like a little teaser, 373 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: just a little order of what is coming or whatever, 374 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: and the run game stuff that they were running with 375 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: Trade Lance. I was like, Oh, no, it's gonna be 376 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: a nightmare, man, you want to see that. And because 377 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: if you think about the success that Baltimore has had 378 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson running an offense that goes like that, 379 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: well imagine like I would say that if we had 380 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: to say this, Kyle Shanahan is probably more creative than 381 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: Greg Roman when it comes to how they design and 382 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: do the running game. I think you are asking for 383 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: trouble if Kyle Shanahan has an opportunity to put trade 384 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: Lands on the field and run this back to the 385 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: future offense that he wants to run with a young quarterback. 386 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: I think Brett Coleman on Twitter actually tweeted tweeted this 387 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: out and uh, because I had mentioned what a nightmare 388 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: this would be for defenses to try and deal with. 389 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: And and then all of course you get the people 390 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: that the poop poop police whould come out and say, oh, 391 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: it's the preseason. It was a four yard run, you know, 392 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: big deal. Everybody runs these plays. I'm you're gonna if 393 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: you can't look and see what Trade Lance can physically do. 394 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: Now that Kyle Shanahan has shown his willingness to try 395 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: and open that thing up a little bit, and then 396 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: you can't have some imagination to say, well, wait a second, 397 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: when we put George Kittle out there, but when we 398 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: put Trent Williams out there a left tackle, what if 399 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: we have I you can Deebo, Samuel and Mostard next 400 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: to him, and now I've got jet sweep action. Is 401 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: he gonna give it? Is he gonna keep it? They're 402 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: pulling this way split zone with tight end going across 403 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: the formation. Like if you can't see how difficult that's 404 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna be, I can't help you. But Breck Coleman, Breck 405 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: Coleman tweet this. I want to get it that real quick, 406 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: He said, think about preparing in one week for the 407 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: Shanahan run scheme and the Greg Roman Baltimore Ravens run scheme, 408 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: because you're gonna get both with that group. Yeah, And 409 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: it's a problem. It is a problem. It's one of 410 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: the reasons why I don't believe the Baltimore Ravens should 411 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: move far off of what they do in the run 412 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: game because the last few years have been number one Russian. 413 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: I believe that Kyle Shanahan has been able to dig 414 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: get the tape and he's looking at the Baltimore Ravens 415 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: run game and being like, oh man, they're crushing people 416 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: with that. Man, imagine if I add this to it, 417 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: and I have this personnel and I have these wide 418 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: receivers because Baltimore doesn't have that. Baltimore doesn't have Brandon. 419 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: Now you can deepo Samuel types that can run to 420 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: the fly, sweeps and do those things. They also they 421 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: have a good time in the Mark Andrew don't have 422 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: George and then Cal you check who they used to have, 423 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: they don't have necessarily anymore. So now you're giving San 424 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: Francisco better offensive personnel. Pound battering Ram at quarterback is 425 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: different than Lamar too, Right, there's a different with the 426 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: ability to do what Baltimore does while also doing a 427 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: running game that's already difficult to stop. You do not 428 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: want to see them, and it could be the most 429 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: exciting offense that we see that only utilizes fifteen and 430 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: seventeen passes per game. Yeah, it's a nightmare. He could 431 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: to help himself, That's why he did. He had to 432 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: short off. He was like, I know you've been waiting. 433 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I just want to give you, like a little take, 434 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. I know you love to ring it. I'm 435 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna give you this little taste and the trade Lands chords. 436 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh man, because just in that 437 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: play alone DJ, just a touchdown play where he scored. 438 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: They run jet sweep one way, Tray Sermon runs a 439 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: fake counter action, they pull somebody from the backside, and 440 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: trade Lands scoots into the zone. I'm on defense, Like, 441 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: holy smokes, I got someone that needs to stay on 442 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: the edge. I gotta deal with Trey Sermon if he 443 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: gets it on the counter. And then I got all 444 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: of these pullers coming at me and I still don't 445 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: know where the ball is going. Ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, 446 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: and we haven't talked about we can talk about Kyle 447 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: you Check and what he can do with his with 448 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: his skill set, just because Baltimore doesn't have a Kyle 449 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: you Check either. I mean, like, that's that's what's crazy 450 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: about this. And I was thinking about it. You're talking 451 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: about he couldn't help himself. You know what that was? 452 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: That was your mom takes you to get your back 453 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: to school shopping a couple of weeks early, and you're like, no, 454 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold these shoes for the first day of school, 455 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: and you stare at those shoes for a couple of 456 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: days and like, man, I stake another four days U 457 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: till school. I gotta put them on. I got to 458 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: put them on. He couldn't, he couldn't, he couldn't help himself, 459 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: and he did it, And I mean, I love it. 460 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: I think it can just be so problematic for the 461 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: defense in terms of what they're doing. And I think 462 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: with you know, Baltimore and Lamar and Jackson, as that 463 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: offense continues to evolve, there are some things that they 464 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: can do that they haven't even tapped into. But I 465 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: think the personnel for San Francisco is better than the 466 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: personnel in Baltimore. And so if they steal their playbook? 467 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: What is this? Um? What are those boy bands? Um? 468 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: What was it? Otel? Oh? Yeah, yeah. It's almost like 469 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: it's almost like Backstreet being like, oh, that's a cute 470 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: little song. Oh Town, Let's take that different from you that. 471 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: By the way, O Town, Oh Town. One of the 472 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: singers from Otown went to my high school. True story, 473 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: True story. I watched that was making making the band 474 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: You're not from You're not from Orlando, that's yeah, he 475 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: would from Orlando either, Yeah, trust me. Um, all right, 476 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: I want to uh, I want to get to some 477 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: cutdown stories here real quick, because we just had to 478 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: cut down I know. Um, I had tweeted out some 479 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: of these, so if you didn't see the tweets, I'll 480 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: mention those. And then I got a couple of submissions 481 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: from a couple of friends around the league. Did you 482 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: ever have to do that? By the way, did you 483 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: have to I not to do what I just said 484 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: to endure it? Any funny stories like that? Okay, So 485 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: here I'll read the first one, which was actually documented 486 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: in John Finstein's book, Um, next man up. He spent 487 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: a year with the Ravens when I was there, So 488 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: here I'll read out of there. He said, Occasionally scouts 489 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: make a mistake. Jeremiah been sent down to get an 490 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: offensive line named Jason Thomas the previous year. Walked in 491 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line meeting room, put his hand on Thomas's shoulder, 492 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: quietly told him need to come upstairs. Jeremiah was halfway 493 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: up the stars before we realized that the player walking 494 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: in front of him was actually Damian Cook, not Jason Thomas. Damian, 495 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I got the wrong guy. Uh, Jeremiah said, 496 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: watching cooks and knees sagging relea chair might returned to 497 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: the meeting room to get Thomas. Seeing him come back 498 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: for a second player, Jonathan Oggen said, what's going on 499 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: in here today? You guys trying to cut the whole team, 500 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: but a hundred percent true story. I felt awful, man. 501 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: I got halfway up the stairwell and then I looked 502 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: at him and I was like, wait a second, and 503 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: that's the wrong dude. Man, that's a bad feeling. And 504 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: you gotta walk him back down in and you're good, Oh, 505 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: you're You're fine, and then come and grab grab the 506 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: other guy. So that was the first one. Okay, that's 507 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: my first Turk story. I'll give you my second one, um, 508 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: which is uh Orlando Brown Zeus rest in peace. You 509 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: know his son is Orlando Brown now with the Chiefs. 510 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: But Zeus, if you never saw him play, was one 511 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: of the biggest, strongest, meanest guys ever to play in 512 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. So I walked into the locker room and 513 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: and because of the story that I just mentioned of 514 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: when you've cut the wrong guy, you want to be 515 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: doubly sure to uh, are you when you've almost cut 516 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: the wrong guy? You want to be double sure you 517 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: got the right guy. So I walk into the locker room, 518 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: and I would look up at the name plates and 519 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: the lockers to make sure that I got the right guy. 520 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: So I walk in there, and uh, I only had 521 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: to grab like two guys or something. So I'm looking 522 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: around looking up at the nameplates. Well, zeus across the room, 523 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: who's our starting right tackle and no danger of being cut? 524 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: But he sees me looking at nameplates and he goes, 525 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: oh no, He grabs his name plate off of his 526 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: locker and chucks it all the way across the room. Like, 527 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: first of all, I would quit before I would ever 528 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: go cut Zeus. I don't I don't need that. I 529 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: don't make enough money to deal with that, so that 530 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: would never happen. Um, you are starting right tackle, You're 531 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: not getting cut. But it was I remember just say 532 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: he chucked that. He could have killed somebody with that 533 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: name plate. He threw it across the across the locker 534 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: room so fast. So that's that's number two, number three, Um, 535 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: and this was my favorite. I won't mention the name 536 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: of the player but um, so I go, you know, 537 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: back in the day, you actually had physical playbooks. Now 538 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: it's iPad, right, I guess now you just change their 539 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: just change the uh you lock them out right, you 540 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: just can't that the same think. I still think you 541 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: you collected because I think you have passed out the 542 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: iPad to them. Yeah, but so you know, they tell 543 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: you you have two jobs. When you gotta get the player, 544 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: bring him to coach Billock, and then you have to 545 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: get his playbook. Like right then, right there, that's your 546 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: two jobs. So I do my job, So go get 547 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: the receiver. I gotta go talk to coach. He's upset. 548 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: We're watching up the stairs and he doesn't understand why 549 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: he's getting cut and he's upset. Understandable, goes in to 550 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: talk to coach, comes out and I go, hey, I 551 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: just need to get your just need to get your playbook. 552 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: He goes, I don't have it. I left at home. 553 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: I'll send it in. I'm like, yeah, no, that's not 554 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: an option, man, Like I gotta I gotta get it. 555 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Just go grab your stuff. I'll 556 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: wait for you and then i'll follow you to your house. 557 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: And he's like you're gonna follow me to my house 558 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: and like, I'm sorry, I gotta get your playbook. That's 559 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: my job. I gotta do it. M F and me 560 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: not happy. So I wait. He comes out of the thing, 561 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: goes out to the player a lot and he had 562 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: like I don't remember what exactly the car was, like 563 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: a muscle car, but I promise you was a lot 564 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: faster than nine chord that I had with no A 565 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: C where I gotta roll the windows down. So he 566 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: I sprint out to my accord, I get in my 567 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: nineteen chord and he pulls out, zips out of the 568 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: parking lot and it's like a high speed chase. I'm 569 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: following him, staying, trying to stay on his tails, like 570 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: a following back to his place. So he gets to 571 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: his house and uh, he storms up, storms to the front, 572 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: opens the door, slams the door. I'm sitting here in 573 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: my car, like what do I do? Like, so I 574 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 1: just knock on, go, knock on the door. Nothing for 575 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: like three minutes, I'm just standing on the porch like 576 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: what am I doing. All of a sudden, the door 577 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: just opens up, throws the playbook. Take two playbook slams 578 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: the doorback shut. I go walk and get in my 579 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: car and drive back to the facility. And I remember thinking, 580 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: like I'm making thirty thousand dollars a year, Like what 581 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: am I doing my life? Man? Like this you need 582 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: a hazard p Yeah. So that was my That was 583 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: my That was my third one. So I put out 584 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: a call to someboddies and said, Hey, anybody else have 585 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: any good turk stories. So here's here's a couple that 586 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: I got. Um, let me give you this one here 587 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: and these are these are guys you know? Um, all right, 588 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: here you go. So this uh in nineteen in a 589 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: nineteen training camp, Chris Barr was the kicker. Um, so 590 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: this is uh. He was an intern. He would this 591 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: guy was an intern at this time. So he goes camp. 592 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: Chris Bars the kicker. He would drive a golf cart 593 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: to practice and he would pick up the GMS kids 594 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: and give them a ride to practice. The day before 595 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: final cuts, Bar picked up the GM son. When they 596 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: got to the practice field, the kid got out and 597 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: told Bar, I'm gonna miss you tomorrow when you get cut. 598 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: She him Son was in the room adjacent to the 599 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: staff meeting room where they were discussing the cuts. He 600 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: overheard the debate on bar and unfortunately he became the 601 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: turk that day. Belief. Oh wow, that's horrible. Is that insane? 602 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: Can you imagine He's like, given the GM kid a ride, 603 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: get get to the car man, sorry about that last day, 604 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: and he's like what, oh yeah, yeah, accidentally cut it 605 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: in horrible. So that's a good one. So then somebody 606 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: else reach out to me and uh, another one of 607 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: our mutual friends. Let's see what he has here. Oh, 608 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: this is a good one. You appreciate this, he said. 609 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: We need to share it. We need to sit down 610 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: and share our turk stories over lunch and mention another 611 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: guy who has a bunch of them as well. Um, 612 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: he said, this is not a turk story. But I 613 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: once had the job of making sure Andre Risen got 614 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: to the facility. This was before cell phones. Let's just 615 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: say it was very difficult. That was his job to 616 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: make sure. I'll be can imagine, I would say, I 617 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: can imagine how difficult and challenging the is. Uh heaven 618 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: lived with Andre Rosen for a little bit in Kansas City. 619 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, this was not in Kansas City. This 620 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: was somewhat that another team. But so what was that like? Um, 621 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: it was interesting because it was right after the left eye, yeah, communicating. Yeah, 622 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: so yeah, you can't teach me like that and not 623 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: tell me any more details. And it's just just so 624 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: many sort of details to just sort out and try 625 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: and figure out what is there for whatever. I just 626 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: remember left I would call. I would pick up the phone. 627 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: He would be like, telling, I'm not here. I was like, well, 628 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: Andre was like she has to know you're here because 629 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm answering the phone, like like, where is she 630 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: gonna be like I'm here? Um? It was Look, it 631 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: was it was funny, but it was also like I'm mean, look, 632 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: this is my this is my due because I remember, 633 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: like in high school, you watching them Bad Moon Rising 634 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: all that other stuff. Um. Yeah. So it was just 635 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: the off season program. So the off season program. I 636 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: spent a year in Andrea's I never knew this, and 637 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: it was it was Bo Jackson's old house. Okay, so 638 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: both Jackson's old house in Kansas City, Andrea purchased. We're 639 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: living there in a couple of the teammates were all 640 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: there and it was your off season. It was I mean, 641 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: that's all I can say. That's the best way to describe. 642 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: But so did left I like you never I never 643 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: saw no, no no, no, I never saw I never saw 644 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: her come through or whatever. Like I just remember they 645 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: would talk like she would call and stuff like that, 646 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: but I didn't I never saw come through. Like what 647 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: do you remember what what was out at that time? 648 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: Like was was chasing waterfalls? Or was that? Was that 649 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: after that? Like what was the year? The year was? 650 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: And then he said going down a rabbit hole? Now, 651 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: yeah it was so man, what what a bunch of 652 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: jams creep you had? So nineteen four waterfalls came out 653 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: in ninety four, ain't too proud to beg that had 654 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: to be around that time too. So whatever whatever is 655 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: whatever they're transitioning to at that point, Okay, I think 656 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: all their hits, they pretty much had all their hits. Yeah, 657 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: because crazy sexy cool came out. Buck, we have to 658 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: I gotta get you never told me this seven hundred 659 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: these shows you drop off me the freaking Live with 660 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: Andre Rising and picking up the phone from left eye. 661 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: What the heck? I don't even know you? Oh my god, 662 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: it's amazing. Um. Anyways, I thought those were those are 663 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: two pretty cool stories. You need you need your hazard 664 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: pay for what you had to door with the oh god, 665 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, driving a house. So so then this was 666 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: the this was the tail end of the of the 667 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: Andre Rising story. So this guy who who told me 668 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: this said, I once told Magic Johnson that on a 669 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: flight and he said, I can't believe you still have 670 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: a job. You know. So Magic hadn't know him though, 671 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: right had him known on Michigan stated so. So, So 672 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: the thing is I was with Dre and Jacksonville. So 673 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: that's how I originally met him because the yeah, spoiler 674 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, this took this is you know, oh, oh, 675 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, because there's only one 676 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: or two places that could have happen. So I just 677 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: remembering there and seeing him and walked through in the 678 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: blame and no punch palty might not have been his 679 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: best thing when it came to certain things. My name 680 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: of Avisiting, but he's my guy and I love me anyway. 681 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: So but yeah, so I do remember, I do remember 682 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: some of that. But then he goes from us in Jacksonville, 683 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: he goes to Green Bay Catches to test good that's 684 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: all the stuff or whatever in the Super Bowl, and 685 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: then I rejoined him in Kansas City the following year 686 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: when he he remade himself in The Spider Man. That's 687 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: when you go and get on the go post. That 688 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: was great for anybody that's young. Go go look up 689 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: some Andrea Rice in highlights. He was a phenomenal, phenomenal athlete. 690 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: Um and watch him in Prime him and Prime go 691 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,479 Speaker 1: at it too. That's always fun. Good basketball player too. 692 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: Wasn't playing basketball? Yeah, because in Kansas City, not only 693 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: do we have any we had Tony gonzalez Dale Carter 694 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: like the basketball. Carter is a freak athlete. Man. Yeah, basketball, 695 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: that's phenomenal. All right. Last thing I want to do 696 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: here on the show that's my life's just turned off 697 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: for some reason. Um, I want to talk a little 698 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: bit about somebody, Ricky White. Because we talked a lot 699 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. I wanna talk about the White houts what 700 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: we've seen in the preseason. I watched a bunch of 701 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: these dudes, um, and I want to start. The guy 702 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: I want to start with might not be who you think. Um. 703 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: Teras Marshall with the Panthers buck at l s U 704 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: has looked. I watched all his stuff. He looked really good. Man. Uh, 705 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: inside outside, he can climb and get vertical. His whole 706 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: thing was that he just didn't he didn't pass some physicals, 707 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: so that pushed him down the board. But I tell 708 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: you what, there's no more frustrated person on planet Earth 709 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: than a personnel guy who had big grades on a 710 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: player and the doctors told him they can't take him. 711 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: Because I've gotten a bunch of feedback on that from 712 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: teams like, dude, they look, he looks fine to me. 713 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, kiddy, there's something too that. It's a 714 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: great fit for him though in Carolina. And the reason 715 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: why is because it's not the pressure on him to 716 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: have to come in and be the number one receiver. Uh, 717 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: you have Anderson there, you have d J. Moore there. 718 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: He slides in as a third receiver and it's really 719 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: really easy for him to kind of assimilate to the game. 720 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: As Sam Donald is trying to find guys that he 721 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: has a comfort level with, there's just a chemistry in 722 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: a connection that is kind of popped up with him 723 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: in Terris Marshall. So he looked good, Um, let's let's uh, 724 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: let's go to the big dog here in Jamaar Chase. 725 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: I mean so you've got four drops that you watch. 726 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: You see body drop, cradle drop, cradle drop, face up drop. 727 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: He just I he didn't play a ton, so there's 728 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: not a lot else to go to go on, you know, 729 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: But I didn't see and we'll see as a regular 730 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: season gets going. I mean I gave him a stinking 731 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: monster grade. I think as we all did a year off, Um, 732 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: he didn't look quite as juicy and as crisp as 733 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: I remembered, you know, And I think hopefully that will 734 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: come as get more confidence. I don't think he's totally 735 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: confident in what he's doing, because you can kind of 736 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: when you watch a guy run, you can kind of 737 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: see if he's thinking why he's running. And with him, 738 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: he just looked like he's he's got a lot going 739 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: on in his head. He just needs to play and 740 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: just get get back into the groove, get back into 741 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: the rhythm. Yeah, that's a tough thing. And I'll tell 742 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: you that why receivers, Uh, waiting wh receivers to transition 743 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: and wherever he was making to the pros can be 744 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: a tough one because, uh, there are a lot of 745 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: things going on the system that you jump into compared 746 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: to what you come out of college. Like, if it's 747 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: a system in college where a whatever the route is, 748 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: the route stays on. Great, you can aggressively and confidently 749 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: go run routes. If it's a system where you have 750 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: options and variables that are post snap reads based on 751 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: current coverage, if you've never done that, that's tough to do. 752 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: And now you're dealing with rust from not playing for 753 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: a year. We kind of hinted at this a little 754 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: bit when we talked about a some of the COVID 755 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: opt outs, like what it's gonna look like for them 756 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: in year one. Football is a developmental game. You need 757 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: to play football to get better football. Some of these 758 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: guys haven't. Some of these guys haven't played in a 759 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: year or two based on what their injury history was. 760 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: And so for Jamaar Chase, you have the rush factor 761 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: from the long layoff, and then you have a lack 762 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: of confidence because you've dropped a handful of balls and 763 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: everybody they around you has made it a big deal. 764 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: So now instead of catching the ball with your hands 765 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: like you've always done, now you're beginning to use your 766 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: body because it's a lack of confidence. And look, man, 767 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: it's It's almost like if you're struggling on the golf course, 768 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: the more that you work at it, sometimes the worst 769 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: that you make it, because now things that you never 770 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: thought about you're now beginning to think about, like, Okay, 771 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: there's no lasers on the pro ball, but a let 772 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: me catch the dot as a spinning or or my hands. 773 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: Right am I doing this? And maybe you have a 774 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver coach in your ear, Hey, pinkies together, um 775 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: for them, the triangle things that you never thought about. 776 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: So now you're really in your head. Last year we 777 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: saw it a little bit. Jerry Judy has some drops 778 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: that popped up in college. But then when you get 779 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: into the pros and you have some in the game, 780 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: now you're fighting everything and it's a very fragile thing. 781 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: So it'd be interesting to see if you'll be able 782 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: to work out of Is doing his rookie season. Yeah, no, 783 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you. UM to me, I almost would 784 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: like to see him just get the ball in his hands. 785 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: They threw him some now it screen and stuff like that, 786 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: but just give him a gym, a fly sweep, just 787 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: let him run around, make something happen, and then and 788 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: then we can go from there. Plus they haven't give 789 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: him a chance really to play over the top yet, 790 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: so much of his production to l s U with 791 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: just climbing up and making plays down the field. We 792 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: didn't play enough. We didn't get a chance to see 793 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: him do all that stuff he can do. No is 794 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: not a DJs like us playing pick up basketball. Like 795 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: if you've missed three or four jumpers in a row 796 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: at some point, your coach said, he may get into paint, 797 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: get a bucket and find a way to get a layup, 798 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: get a free throw. He needs to see the ball 799 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: go through the hole. He needs to catch something. They 800 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: need to find a way to manufacture an easy touchdown 801 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: for him early. You get him in the paint, that 802 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: will kind of open him up and some of that 803 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: pressure that he's putting on himself. We're dissipating him returned 804 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: to being the player that we thought he was when 805 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: he was at LSU. All, I'm gonna run through a 806 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: couple more guys, and I'll let you hit on anybody 807 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: if you want to hit on Jalen Waddle. Um. I 808 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: love what they're doing with him in the slot. You're 809 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna see We talk about slot verticals being homemeum easy 810 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: money in the NFL, You're gonna see a lot of 811 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: that from him. Plus given him you know, jet sweeps, bubbles, 812 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: quick hitters, UH, slants from the slot. He's gonna be 813 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: really good in that system and reunited with to a 814 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: big year coming for Jalen Waddle, um Aman Ross st 815 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: Brown by default, I think he's gonna be in their 816 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: best receiver. They just don't have a very good group there. Um, 817 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: but he's very polished again in the slot, tough for 818 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys to work in the slot. 819 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: We see a bunch of these rookies getting work in 820 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: the slot. UM quickness, toughness, working in traffic. Uh. He 821 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: was impressive watching all his tape. I mentioned Terris Marshal, 822 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: Rondelle Moore again in the slot, quick screens, whip routes, um, 823 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: quick hitters. You know he's gonna have that very defined role. 824 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: I think they kind of know who he is and 825 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: what he does, so I think you feel good about 826 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: where he is. UM. I saw Duyne Skridge at at 827 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: the charging game with the Seahawks the other day. That 828 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: four three speed is real. You feel it when you're 829 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: out there. He didn't get much action his way, but 830 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: you can feel his speed and that like all of 831 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, like a track team with him. And when 832 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: DK metcalf is out there and Tyler Lockett, good luck, 833 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: um that that's a fun group to watch. Any of 834 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: those other whiteouts jump out to your and he takes 835 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: on them no like. I think the thing that said 836 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: up to me was all the reports about Elijah More 837 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: and how terrific he was. He was being everyone talking 838 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: about how special he is and how he looks the part. 839 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: I'd be excited to see him play. Um to to 840 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: at Will is a guy that early in the process 841 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: I remember you loving because he does have some of 842 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: that dynamic play making a billy. You're worried about the 843 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: packaging though, because he is so small and slight. But 844 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: I think the advantage of at World going to the 845 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: Rams he gets a chance to see the Sean Jackson 846 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: work every day. And Sean Jackson has made quite the 847 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 1: career for himself as a guy who ended the league 848 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: maybe win a hundred and sixty five pounds. He has 849 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 1: been the ultimate. Maybe he may go down in history 850 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: as the league's best deep threat. To to at well, 851 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: what can he steal from watching him work every day 852 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: and and I think the big wild card or the 853 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: big astract that everyone has his Kadarius Tony what is 854 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: going to happen with him just kind of hasn't been available. 855 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 1: It's been some some some different issues that have prevented 856 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: him from getting on the field consistently. It's one of 857 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: the things they have to address. The last one we 858 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: didn't talk about was Davonte Smith. And I believe wholeheartedly 859 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: in Davonte Smith's ability, And I tweeted this out the 860 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: other day just because I think it matters where you 861 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: go and how you're used and what you're supporting role is. 862 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: I could see DeVante Smith having a you know, a 863 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: solid year, but three or four years from now, once 864 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: they figure out, you know, whether or not Jalen develops 865 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: his that quarterback or whether they find that quarterback. Remember, 866 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: they got a bunch of picks next year, so they 867 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: are positioned if Russell Wilson was gonna move on, Aaron 868 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: Rodgers was gonna move on, or Deshaun Watson, thing goes down, like, 869 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: the Eagles aren't a position to out asked that everybody 870 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: to go get a quarterback. So this is a big 871 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: year for for Jalen. But if Jalen doesn't end up 872 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: being that guy, I think you'll see a big uptick 873 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: because to me, I think he's I was talking about 874 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: somebody this about this the other day. Davante Smith is 875 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: best with an on time quarterback because his he is 876 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: precision and as a route runner, so you know, extended plays, 877 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: scrambled drills like that's not that's not gonna feature what 878 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: this dude does so well, and that's you know, he's 879 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: successful with Jalen, But I think you saw with a 880 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: guy like Mac Jones, you went to a totally different 881 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: place because in rhythm, on time, precision, that's him, that's 882 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: who he is, that is exactly who he is. And 883 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: so to be great to see how this this plays out. 884 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: And so uh that's one of the things about the preseason, 885 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: like beginning to get a taste of it, but then 886 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: in the regular season we get to see how everyone 887 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: puts it together because no longer can they sit and say, oh, 888 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: we're high and we're saving our best stuff. Yeah, we 889 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: get a chance. Let's go people doing their best stuff. YEP. Alright. 890 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: I want to encourage everybody listening to the Hard Knocks podcast, 891 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: which drops each Tuesday after Hard Knocks Airs. Hold to 892 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 1: buy you, buddy, Peter Shregar. You can find it wherever 893 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: you get your podcast. Will be sure to check that 894 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: one out. Um, anything else you want to get? Two buck? 895 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: I do want to lever body know. Um, we have 896 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: a big episode coming up on Thursday where we'll we'll 897 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 1: dive into college because we've got the real full opening 898 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: weekend of college football, so we'll have some fun with 899 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: that on on Thursday's episode. Anything else you want to 900 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: drop for we get out of here. No, I man, 901 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: just make sure you continue to listen all the pods 902 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: and videos and those things. It's gonna be exciting time 903 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: seasons just around the corner. And I teased it on Twitter. 904 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: We'll have some more information for you on Thursday about 905 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: it exciting development in the fall with the show. So 906 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: we'll hit you guys up with all that information coming 907 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: up on Thursday. All right, that's gonna do it for 908 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys hanging with us. We'll catch next 909 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: time right here on Move the sticks