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Speaker 1: gonna be an excellent week. Uh. You know, we were uh,

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Speaker 1: a you know, I'm just an Army infantryman. Pretty you're

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Speaker 1: immediately connecting on on on on the on the service aspect.

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Speaker 1: So you guys are at Fox Nation are going to

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Speaker 1: continue to uh to film those. That's that's gonna Oh

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Speaker 1: that's great because I love those I mean, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of those now, because like you said,

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Speaker 1: once you get the guys in the room and they're

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Speaker 1: surrounded by other vets, so then the guard comes down,

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Speaker 1: like you said, and you could sense, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: that one episode we were just mentioning. You know, as

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Speaker 1: the episode went on, it seemed like they got more

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Speaker 1: and more relaxed, and the better the stories were coming up,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Oh yeah, that's great. I'm glad to hear that.

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Speaker 1: So I know you did the seal swim a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago in the Hudson River um and you

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Speaker 1: you freely mentioned how you struggled with that. Are you

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Speaker 1: doing it again this year? Oh? Man, are you're trying

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Speaker 1: to break news here? I don't know. Uh So two

446
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Speaker 1: years ago I did it and didn't. I needed a

447
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Speaker 1: little bit of help from a jet ski to finish

448
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Speaker 1: because I couldn't get past the current UH. Last year

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Speaker 1: I was able to do it. I finished the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: even though it was a mile longer than the year

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Speaker 1: before because of UH. One of the entry points was

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Speaker 1: was changed in the local or the exit points was changed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I I want to we'll see

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Speaker 1: if I gotta get the training in this summer if

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, because without training, those currents eat

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Speaker 1: you alive. I'm telling you I I spent twenty five

457
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Speaker 1: minutes from the Statue of Liberty and didn't move, and

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Speaker 1: I was swimming as hard as I could. And that's

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Speaker 1: how that's how strowing the current is. These Navy seals

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Speaker 1: are animals. Uh, the way they swim, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: we'll see, I hope. So it's been a fun thing

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Speaker 1: to do, and why not make it a third Well,

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Speaker 1: I was such a great swimmer and Special Forces they

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Speaker 1: put me on a mountain team. So, uh, hats off

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Speaker 1: to you, Pete for even attempting that. So uh, you

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Speaker 1: know that's uh, you know, I wouldn't want to swim

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Speaker 1: with those dudes. They they're very good at what they do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just look like like a fool, But I do

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Speaker 1: my best. Hey, that's it's all for the for the events.

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Speaker 1: So no, I hope you get a chance to do

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Speaker 1: it this year. But you know again, I saw on

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Speaker 1: one of the shows where you mentioned, you know, having

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Speaker 1: some issues there and one of the seals helped you

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Speaker 1: out a little bit, but pulled me through the water. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I noticed on the you know one the modern vets

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Speaker 1: A vets show. Excuse me, you have a couple of

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Speaker 1: tats and uh, I saw the cross rifles, which next

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Speaker 1: a cross arrows is the best, uh, you know tattoo

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Speaker 1: there is. But is there a favorite of yours? Oh man,

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Speaker 1: Probably the first one that I got that my wife

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Speaker 1: and I designed. It's it's a cross with a sword

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Speaker 1: in the middle, and it's based on Matthew ten thirty

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Speaker 1: four and the idea that when Jesus said, I didn't

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Speaker 1: come to bring peace but a sword, and of course

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Speaker 1: he meant that sort of when when you when you

486
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Speaker 1: truly believe and you truly invest, it's not going to

487
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Speaker 1: be easy, but you're doing it for uh, for for

488
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Speaker 1: the King of kings. So that's that one. Right on

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Speaker 1: my forearm is the one that's most special. Right next

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Speaker 1: to it is a tattoo I got in Bethlehem for

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Speaker 1: one of the is one of the Fox Nations specials

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Speaker 1: I did called Battle in Bethlehem about the birthplace of Jesus.

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Speaker 1: How to be You know, Christians are being pushed out,

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Speaker 1: but one of the last Christian, the old Christian tattoo artists,

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Speaker 1: the only tattoo artist in Bethlehem gave me a tattoo

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Speaker 1: that says Jesus in Hebrew, and that was a pretty

497
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Speaker 1: cool one to get. I think it's the only interview

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Speaker 1: I've ever done while getting tattooed, So that's cool. You know,

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Speaker 1: of all the times I've been to Israel, I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a tattoo shop there. Well, that's not really a thing,

501
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 1: it's not so it, but but for Christians who go

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Speaker 1: there on a pilgrimage, they often want to get a

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Speaker 1: small cross tattoo. And so he has been doing that

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Speaker 1: for years. And uh, we found out about him through

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Speaker 1: the media and went and interviewed. The scary part was

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00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: he really couldn't talk freely. He talked freely with me

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Speaker 1: off camera, but not on camera because uh, and we

508
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Speaker 1: spoke on camera, but he had to be very careful

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Speaker 1: because he's faces such intimidation from Islamist groups. They're even

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Speaker 1: just to exist. M hm. Yeah, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: funny because you mentioned the cross tattoo. I know this

512
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Speaker 1: wasn't on our list of questions to talk about, but

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Speaker 1: you know, just last week we had the nationals Day

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Speaker 1: of Prayer and I was in a National Day of Prayer.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mention God wants unbelievable. It's uh, oh, it's it's indicative.

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Speaker 1: First of all, we don't even know if Jill Biden

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Speaker 1: wrote it. Uh, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: he delivered it, and he should be aware enough to

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Speaker 1: know what he's doing. I mean, it's indicative of where

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Speaker 1: the modern Democrat Party is. They've tried to strip God

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Speaker 1: out of their party platform multiple times, only to barely

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Speaker 1: eat it in. And you've got a real condescension to

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Speaker 1: people of faith from the elites and in the media. Um,

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Speaker 1: we're already a racing God from so many parts of

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Speaker 1: our culture. Uh. But who are you praying to if

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Speaker 1: not to God. I'm a national day of Prayer. So

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Speaker 1: that was that was pretty pathetic and sad to see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. But you know that's again that's just from

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Speaker 1: my opinion. But I'm sure you agree with that, Pete.

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00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: I know that. Uh. You know, time is short with

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Speaker 1: you and we had to get you out by a

532
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Speaker 1: certain time, so we're right up against that. I wish

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Speaker 1: I could sit here and shoot the breeze with you

534
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: all day, but I know you're busy. We want to

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00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: thank you all for joining us today. Um, you know

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00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: from softwarep everyone here at soft Rep. Thanks you. Thanks

537
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: for all you do for our veterans community and and

538
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: keep going with you know, uh, especially that I love

539
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: that show Modern Warrior. Keep doing it. We'll keep doing

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00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: it Fox and Friends on the weekends and and uh

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Speaker 1: we'll be definitely tuning in. But thanks again for joining us.

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00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thank you, Steve, my pleasure. Thanks

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00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: for all you guys do. Okay, m hmm, well we're

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Speaker 1: back here on Software Radio. We hope everyone enjoyed our interview.

545
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Although it was a little short. We we crimmed a

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Speaker 1: lot in there with Pete Heggs. And right now, uh,

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Speaker 1: joining me at the mike is soft Repson. Sean Spoots

548
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: are managing editor, and we're gonna explained to you listeners

549
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: out there why Pete was on the show and what

550
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Speaker 1: we were talking about with Fox Nation, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into all of every before we do. Sean, welcome

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00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Thank you, Thank you, Steve. It

553
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Speaker 1: was really fun. That was that was a good interview.

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Speaker 1: Um Pizza Pizza, great guy, nice job, nice job on

555
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: that nice jove on that Scoopy almost got an out

556
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Speaker 1: of them. He's gonna run for pretending for the scoop.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were going to get an exclusive there.

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Speaker 1: You know, he seemed to hesitate for a second. But uh,

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Speaker 1: now that was great. I mean, you know, hey, Sean

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Speaker 1: Pete is a great guy, you know. And uh, that's

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Speaker 1: why I figured i'd lead off with asking because we

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Speaker 1: all know, I mean, his bravery is not even in question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was an infantry guy in Iraq, Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: he worked in GIDMO. But for him to go on

565
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Speaker 1: on live TV and hook himself up to a machine

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Speaker 1: like he was giving birth on Fox and Friends on

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Speaker 1: the weekend, that's so I said, hey, man, you get

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Speaker 1: my vote, so hats off to you. Yeah. Really, no,

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Speaker 1: I always I've always enjoyed watching my flox and kind

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Speaker 1: of watched him sort of like coming too his own

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Speaker 1: there on the channel. So I never remember doing that

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00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: maniac feel swim saying cost to hutch stuff in the yard.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing, headwaters cold and it's hard, the current strong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he he mentioned that, and you know that's uh,

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Speaker 1: that is not a swim for the faint of heart.

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Speaker 1: So no, no, not at all. Um. But we're here

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Speaker 1: to talk about you know what we've been seeing here

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00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: on Fox Nation, which is the the reason for this

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00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: show this week. Is this really great offer that they

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Speaker 1: are making during this week of Memorial Day. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a year free of Fox Nation for active duty

582
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: and veterans. Um It's really easy to sign up for.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why anybody wouldn't. It's a free year

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00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: of Fox Nation and you could probably spend that year

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00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: just trying to watch all the stuff that's that's on

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Speaker 1: this on this service because it's it's really really good

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00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: stuff it is. And you know, it's again to reiterate

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Speaker 1: what Sean was just saying, Fox Nation is free for

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00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: one year or all military members and veterans if you

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Speaker 1: sign up between Monday and Monday, May thirty one. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. I mean, I think that is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we've been going through all the shows

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Speaker 1: and we reviewed quite a few of them. Our listeners

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Speaker 1: out there for software, they're going to see reviews on

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Speaker 1: all these shows and these were just some of the

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Speaker 1: ones that we picked out that we believe that you

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Speaker 1: will like. But as Sean was just saying, there is

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Speaker 1: a plethora of shows on Fox Nation you can like.

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Speaker 1: He said, I think you could spend uh a month

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Speaker 1: watching something different every day. Yeah, I mean not only

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Speaker 1: a plethora, but a lot of them. Yeah. Uh. Well,

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff I really ended up liking is

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Speaker 1: binge watching. In fact, was the Patriots Allman Act that

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Speaker 1: that has Bill Benny's to be in the Secretary of

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Speaker 1: Education under the Reagaan administration. And this is a you know,

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Speaker 1: these are like these two minutes on this day in

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Speaker 1: history kind of vignettes and they're very interesting and I'm

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Speaker 1: a history buff like you, and there was stuff in

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Speaker 1: there I just never knew, you know, like they called

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Speaker 1: Miami the Magic City was born in reason Miami. I

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Speaker 1: never knew that, but that that was the nickname for Miami,

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Speaker 1: was the Magic City. So all of these things, these

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Speaker 1: a little two minute vignettes are about about things in

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Speaker 1: the American in hisstory we don't even know about sometimes

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Speaker 1: and the passion that you start watching on these can't stop. Um.

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Speaker 1: So that's definitely something you want to check out. And

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Speaker 1: there's like three hundred and sixty five of them, so

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Speaker 1: you'll be you'll be buried in them. Another one is

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Speaker 1: the Tucker Carlson stuff. He's got these in depth reports

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Speaker 1: that are on this show are really good. They just

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Speaker 1: didn't one on the A R fifteen, which was really

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Speaker 1: good as a demystifying kind of coverage of what the

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Speaker 1: A R fifteen is and how it's used. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: it's very very interesting to watch. And if you're somebody

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Speaker 1: who doesn't know much about firearms and you want and

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Speaker 1: out that, it really takes some of the mystery as

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Speaker 1: they are fifteen why it's the most popular rifle in

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Speaker 1: the country. So that's that's definitely one to check out

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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and you know, the one that really

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Speaker 1: struck home with me is one not as you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: one of the shows that I reviewed, and The Hero Dogs.

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Speaker 1: And as everyone who knows me knows, I'm I'm a

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Speaker 1: huge dog lover. I think dogs says a you know,

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Speaker 1: definitely man's best friend. But this show, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: had some uh working animals on there that you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not just military dogs. There was dogs of work

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Speaker 1: with the police. There were dogs that work with fire

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Speaker 1: that was um, you know, one of them was a

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Speaker 1: yellow lab. And the story will bring I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: guys right now our listeners out there, that that story

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Speaker 1: about the yellow apple bring Tess ees. Um, it was

642
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: really really well done. And of course they it starts

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Speaker 1: off you can't talk about hero dogs without talking about Cairo,

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Speaker 1: who was on the modern rate. But there were so

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Speaker 1: many others in you know, like Cairos Handler told us,

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Speaker 1: and in that show, you know, Cairo's story didn't beginning,

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Speaker 1: and and with the bin Laden ready he was a

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Speaker 1: hero long before that and he was actually wounded in accident.

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Speaker 1: That that one I really liked. And of course the

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Speaker 1: show with Pete Modern Warriors just absolutely fantastic when he

651
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Speaker 1: had the special Ops guys on there, a couple of

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Speaker 1: Navy seals, green beret and a Army ranger. That was

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Speaker 1: probably my favorite episode. And you know, Pete was saying

654
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Speaker 1: that that was a fun one for him as well.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Webb I got one a lot too. I understand

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Speaker 1: that there's a new episode coming out for Memorial Days,

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00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: so um, I always look forward to those as well.

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Speaker 1: I really liked the idea of history coming to us

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Speaker 1: in the voices of the people who participated in You know,

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00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: for a long time history books were written by historians,

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Speaker 1: and now because of the way the modern media technology exists,

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Speaker 1: now that now the stories can be told by the

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Speaker 1: people who were there, who were the participants. They don't

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Speaker 1: have to be writers, they don't have to access the

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Speaker 1: publishing houses, um. They can get in front of the

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Speaker 1: camera of the moderator like Pete and tell their stories

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00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: in the very real way. An example of that is

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Speaker 1: one of the documentaries they had one Approximation that they did,

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Speaker 1: a really really good one about the Battle of Muga

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Speaker 1: Tissue And one of the things I liked about that

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Speaker 1: is that it was the story with the participants of

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Speaker 1: the battle being interviewed, and they got the right people

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Speaker 1: to talk about that battle as well, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: use any reenactors. They had enough combat footage to actually

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Speaker 1: move that story without going with any kind of reconstructive

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Speaker 1: re enactment kind of stuff in that in that documentary,

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Speaker 1: which I think made it really good, and it's a

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Speaker 1: very nice, tight narrative. You come out of that thing

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Speaker 1: really with I think a better understanding of how that

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Speaker 1: battle went, and then maybe even you did from a

681
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Speaker 1: movie like Black Hawk Down, I think you actually got

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Speaker 1: a better narrative out of Out of the Battle of

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Speaker 1: Moga Tissue um as a chronology and how it all worked.

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Speaker 1: Then then you really even get with that Hollywood blockbuster

685
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Speaker 1: Moy which is a phenomenally was like one of the

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Speaker 1: best world movies ever made. But but the documentary is

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Speaker 1: is really really good. Do you like the sports coverage too,

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00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: I know that they do a lot. Yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: having covered the NFL and being uh able to you know,

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Speaker 1: work with the New England Patriots at times. And one

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Speaker 1: of the guys I really really admires Jim Gray. And

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Speaker 1: Jim Gray, you know, his his show on Fox Nation

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Speaker 1: Talking with Goats, And it's not the you know, like

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Speaker 1: the movie you know, the Men who Talked to Ghosts.

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Speaker 1: This is talking about you know, talking with the greatest

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Speaker 1: of all time in different sports. And you know, he

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Speaker 1: did one with Tom Brady, he does one with you know.

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Speaker 1: It just goes on and on and on. And Jim

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Speaker 1: Gray is one of the best sports interviewers because he

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Speaker 1: has that he has that manner about him that I

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Speaker 1: really admire because he can talk to somebody and actually

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Speaker 1: be friends with. He's friends with a lot of the

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Speaker 1: people that he's interviewed and given tough interviews with, guys

704
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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali's family

705
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Speaker 1: still talks about Jim Gray, like he's a member of

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Speaker 1: the family, and these are the kind of shows that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get on Fox Nation. And that to me

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Speaker 1: was a really really good one. Well one of our guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, um, Matt loved the lower organ stuff about

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Speaker 1: the boards that that was. I've had a chance to

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Speaker 1: watch that, and it's it's really it's not coverage you'll

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Speaker 1: seeing any other network. No, nobody's doing anything is in

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Speaker 1: depth on on what's going off the board in terms

714
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Speaker 1: of the crisis of it, like she asked. And that

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Speaker 1: lady is absolutely fearless. I've seen her reporting for years

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Speaker 1: and there is she's like unstoppable, um, almost almost crazy

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Speaker 1: in terms of the commitment to get into a story. Um,

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Speaker 1: I've seen her get roughed up a few times trying

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Speaker 1: to cut the story. I mean she's in Egypt. In

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Speaker 1: Egypt that it got scary. I mean what happened to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you have talked about somebody wants to get

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Speaker 1: a story that bad. I mean that is you almost

723
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Speaker 1: watch it just because you know there's nobody who's committed

724
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Speaker 1: to trying to get into it. Have you watched any

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Speaker 1: of the Secret History stuff that's really good some of them. No,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been able to watch those. I I watched

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Speaker 1: some of the Fox Outdoors. Um. Yeah, I've watched some

728
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Speaker 1: of Lara Logan stuff. As you know, you just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: um that's a great series or some good stuff in there. Um.

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Speaker 1: And and then I think you mentioned it earlier or

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Speaker 1: you might have. You may have mentioned it before we

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Speaker 1: went on. We were talking about the The Alley of Sin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's part of their crime reporting um section. And that one,

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00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: that one you have to watch. Don't watch before you

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Speaker 1: go to bed, because it'll give you, it'll give you

736
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: a nightmares. It's about it's about you. Remember the mcbucke

737
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: preschool trial back in the early nineties is out in

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Speaker 1: California where they roped up all these people on these

739
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: trumped up false accusations of child molestation and they you know,

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Speaker 1: put people in prison, and then the all thing came

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Speaker 1: apart and they had that let all these people out,

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00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: turned out they were completely innocent. Well, they ended up

743
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Speaker 1: doing this again. The same thing happened in this town

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Speaker 1: in Washington, stay small town where they allegedly found twenty

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Speaker 1: nine thousand instances of child sexual abuse, and this ring

746
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: of pedophiles and all turned out to be nonsense and

747
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: none of that was true. And this is like a

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Speaker 1: six part series that I just couldn't turn away from.

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Speaker 1: It was so horrifying because you can't help but identify

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Speaker 1: with these people who were like falsely accused and their

751
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: wives destroyed, and anybody who spoke up and said, look,

752
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: you know this is bad they didend up getting charged too.

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00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: It was there was a pastor in a church who

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Speaker 1: was saying, look this isn't this is bad what we're

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Speaker 1: doing and this is wrong. Next thing you know, he's

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Speaker 1: being charged, which was horrifying. And I'm not going to

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00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: go through the ending of the thing, but it does.

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00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: It does end up working out pretty well. But it's

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00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: an example of just how awesomely terrifying the power of

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Speaker 1: the state can be when it's directed at someone and

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00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: then and the government has been very careful about pointing

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00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: it's awesome power and authority at at people because it's

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00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: so hard to turn it around once it's been directed

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00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: at it. It's almost you know, they say, you can't

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Speaker 1: take a bullet back after it's fired, and it works

766
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: like that with these things too. Once they get on

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00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: the direction that there are it's almost impossible or then

768
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: to stop, and it just keeps going and going and

769
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 1: going and going, and the dozens and dozens of people

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00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: in their lives world by by these false accusations and

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00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: the worst accusation that you can literally have leveled against you. Really, um,

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00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: and you just h it was awful and it's and

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00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: it didn't happen in New York or Chicago or so,

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00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: it happened in this little town where this whole thing happened. Well,

775
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think this sort of power could exist and

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00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: be put to such abusive needs, but but it didn't.

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00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: And it's it's a really it's a really hard thing

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00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: to watch because you're just like a mix of anger

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00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: and and frustration and what were they thinking? Is that

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00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: there anybody to say stopped? This is ridiculous? I mean

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00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: it was. It's really something to watch. It's very very

782
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: well done. I think that it's called Valley it set.

783
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: So if you if you haven't seen it, or if

784
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: you have, make sure you mentioned the comments here on

785
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: the podcast. But I was, I was very moved by

786
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: what I saw that it was like angry too at

787
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: the abuses of government authority there, but on a lighter note.

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00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about destination Chernobyl. So you know me, we

789
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: talked about this. I love documentary series, I mean I

790
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: really do, and this one, I'm I'm big Chernola happening

791
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: while I was still in the military, and that was

792
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: a big mystery about what was going on because of

793
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: course it's the Soviet Union and they lie. But this

794
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: this takes you to Chernobyl and walks you through the

795
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: actual town and Propriat brings you basically right up to

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00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: where the reactor containment vessel is that they built around

797
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: this huge French come it's like the largest movable man

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00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: made structure on the planet. He spent like a billion

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00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: dollars on or something. But it's really it's really interesting

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00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,479
Speaker 1: to go there with cameras now and see the sort

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00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: of ghost region in the Ukraine that Chernobyl and represent

802
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: now in the world. They talk a little about the

803
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: environment there, said it's had some very weird environmental effects,

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00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: like there's no birds. There's no birds, so there's you

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00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: have those all those beautiful forces. No birds, Well it's

806
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: because there's no trees that grow berries, so there's no

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00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: stuff and them to eat. And apparently even bugs have

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00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: really returned to the area. They're they're missing birds. So

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00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: it's like it took this weird ecosystem that's growing and

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00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: there's still stuff that's five It was wolves, an elk

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Speaker 1: and be huge deer and all this other stuff boxes,

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00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: but there's like pieces missing from the ecosystem that was

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00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: caused by the intense radiation. I mean, I can't remember

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Speaker 1: what the number was, but it was something like five

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00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: hundred horosiam bombs. It was the equivalent of it was

816
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: like it was like hitting this town with five hundred horosiampoms,

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00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: which is an unbelievable amount of radiation. It's amazing. It

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00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: isn't just a big smoking whole. Still um, nature and

819
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: life is pretty amazing the way it comes back, but

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00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: it comes back different. You know, everything's got his DNA

821
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: altered over there. And then there's actual tourism. I'm not

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00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: sure I would go. I'm not sure actually respect radiation.

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00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: You know, I want to visit a lot of places,

824
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: but you noble, it's not it's not at the top

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00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: of my bucket list. Well, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I would trust the Russian decimeter to tell me how

827
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: much radiation I had gotten exactly. You know, you're fine.

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00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: You and I are close to the same age, so

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Speaker 1: we grew up in that generation where you know, I

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00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: still kind of think of them guys as our enemy. Yeah, yeah, no,

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00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: I know we've turned into our grandfather's right old cold

832
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: warriors now, but back then it was our grandfathers couldn't

833
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: stand the Japanese and the Germans. Yes, I will never

834
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: own a Japanese car, you know that kind of thing. So, yeah,

835
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. We do get like that.

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00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes we got our Russians. You can't trust them, you

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00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: can't trust them, which I don't think anyone would really

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00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: disagree with us on anything. No, especially the way things

839
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: are going today. But another really good show, and it's

840
00:46:54,239 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: been popular around other platforms to Dynasty, it's now Ucination. Yeah,

841
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: do you like that show? You're a fan of that.

842
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: I've I've never been a big fan of it, but

843
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, I've watched bits and pieces of it through

844
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: the years because your flippants for the Down and you

845
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 1: see it on and these were guys who are just

846
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, good old country boys, and they figured out

847
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: a way to make themselves extremely, extremely wealthy. So they

848
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: were doing Yeah, they had a business that was duck calls,

849
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: calls they made. They made duck calls. They're big duck hunters,

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00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: and it turned into a thing. It took off as

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00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: a business and they were you know really and then

852
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: they got the show and the family itself is so

853
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: entertaining to watch that you just can't turn it away.

854
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: It's it's like, don't start watching it, because then you

855
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: won't be able to not watch it. That's my attack

856
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: because if you you get two or three episodes and

857
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: you're just like, Okay, Ileana, what's kind of go want next?

858
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: What happens with Willie? But you know I'm gonna happen

859
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: what happens up to that last show? Yet Duct Tunis

860
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: has been all the time, Like I didn't know even

861
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: that so many seasons they had, but they're all on there.

862
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: So if you haven't seen any one to revisited, it's

863
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: all their Unflexnation, which is which is pretty cool stuff,

864
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff. We you and I we've watched shows

865
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: on that network before, so I didn't realize the breadth

866
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: and depth until I really started to look into it,

867
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's a lot of stuff here,

868
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: a lot of nuggets um a lot of even some

869
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: of these small shows, some of these small documentaries. I

870
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: loved the paintball when they did Paintball Nation that was

871
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: that was like great fun show to watch. Um from

872
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: about the history of this game with one of these

873
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: teams that's been around since like the very beginning, like

874
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: going back into the eighties. I played. I don't know

875
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: if you had that kind of stuff recreationally available to

876
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: on our any basis. When I was a youngster back

877
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: in the Navy, we weren't allowed as a rescuer, weren't

878
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: allowed to play any contact bots, we weren't allowed to

879
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: play football or any that stuff. Because you're working up

880
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: to a deployment, you get hurt, you can't go. So

881
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: they would court martial you for unnecessarily hazarding government property

882
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: with your broken shoulder playing football. So they had paintball

883
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: guns in Norfolk and we go running around the woods

884
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: with these single shots paintball guns and shooting. It was

885
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: great fun. And this is back in like Chief four

886
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: five and now it's like a sport. Is millions and

887
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: millions of people who play this. It's great recreation. And

888
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: I played paintball with my son for about seven seventy

889
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: years and then played with a team of veterans and

890
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: was really it was great fun. It was it was

891
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: very very fun times camping within the field and playing

892
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: these games and shooting at people. Everybody gets up afterward

893
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: and they're fine, but it's a real a drunk rush.

894
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: It really is a lot of fun. But this, the

895
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: story about this paintball team is really fun. But then

896
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: um going all the way from the nineteen eighties. These

897
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: guys were called them astro Blasters, and they they've been

898
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: a team forever and then he takes them up to

899
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: Chicago to these national championships. But it's a it's fun

900
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: to watch. It's a's really kind of an interesting thing. Yeah.

901
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: One of the other smaller shows that I like is

902
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: is involved with different years in the calendar. It's called

903
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: Who Can Forget? And uh yeah, yeah, Who Can Forget?

904
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty nine and they're talking about Woodstock Abbey

905
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: Road with the Beatles, the first moon Landing Easy writer

906
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Charlie Manson and chap A Cuittic all happened in nineteen

907
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: sixty nine. I think my favorite one was though, So

908
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: that was that was a good one, But I mean, yeah, yeah,

909
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: you know with Ali North and you know, yeah, Ran

910
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: Contra and all that. What do you what do you

911
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: remember about the moon lighting? Where were you in the

912
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: follow out of moment? You know, when I was a kid,

913
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: I was enthralled with this, you know, NASA and the

914
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: entire space thing. I think, like every other kid back then,

915
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to be an astronaut. And you know, back

916
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: then you were plugged into ABC because um now I'm

917
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: forgetting his last name, Jules somebody used to be the

918
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: science reporter for ABC, and oh I just had it

919
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue. Now it's just gone.

920
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: But did the launch it well then, I'm not sure.

921
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: But on ABC, yeah, I mean, you know they take

922
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: it through and I remember glued to my parents television, said,

923
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: watching the guy's land on the moon and then you know,

924
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: watching Neil Armstrong go down. I mean, those were incredible days,

925
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, and the technology you has increased so much

926
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: that you know, the computer that was on board those

927
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: guys landing on the moon had one megabyte of memory

928
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: right yourself from right now. It was more powerful than

929
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: everything nast I had in nine. Well, I was nineteen

930
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: sixty nine. I was just I was an elementary school

931
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: kid and remember being woken up out of bed by

932
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Speaker 1: my mother with my sister who had some people over

933
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: at the house, and they were all cuddled around like

934
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: a thirteen inch black and white television side and I

935
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: didn't know why I was being looking up, and she said,

936
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: they're going to walk on the moon. And I was like, okay,

937
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: And I went outside because I thought I could see it.

938
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: I figured it was like I thought I could see

939
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: the moon. I could see him walking. I had no

940
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: idea how big it actually was. And I'm being brought

941
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: back inside to watch. Why would you go outside because

942
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: I thought, I aren't they gonna walk on the moon?

943
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: Can you see them? And then I watched it, but

944
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was marveling. Now, as an adult, imagine

945
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: that we flew to the moon and everybody here in

946
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: this country was watching it on a thirteen inch black

947
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: and white television side. You know, they went to the

948
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: moon and we watched it on a little cathode ray

949
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: to t V. A thirteen inch television is in is

950
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: in the back of your suburban now, you know it's

951
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: it's it's hanging up in a minivan. It's not even

952
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: it's not a TV back then. That was like you

953
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: were playing some money out for television. It was a

954
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: lot of It was a lot of money. And no though,

955
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: who can remember threes? That's who can forget thres? Those

956
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: are really good. But what about Nixon was really good too,

957
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: because I remember, yeah ninety four with the whole Nixon thing.

958
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: And again I remember, you know, because I was at

959
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: school then, and you know, we're seeing it on the

960
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: nose play out every night, and we're trying to figure

961
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: out what the heck is going on. And you know,

962
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: you you grow up believing nobody in our government does

963
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: anything bad. It's people in other governments. Then yeah, yeah,

964
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: they can get the bad rap. Too soon? Is that

965
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: too soon for me to say he gets a bad rap?

966
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: So well? No, he did some amazing stuff, I mean them.

967
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: He signed a permitive he signed permitive action in the law. Um,

968
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: he was the guy that also he and Henry Kissinger

969
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: did that did that thing where they spoke China away

970
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: from the Soviet Union, which was which was really something. Now,

971
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if opening up China was such a

972
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: good idea and retrospect look forward, but he took an

973
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: awful lot of pressure off the United States militarily by

974
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: getting China and Russia to look at each other as

975
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: adversaries instead of allies, especially after of what had happened

976
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: in you know, places like Korea being nound Southeast Asia.

977
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: So he was he was pretty pretty smart technically minded, um,

978
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: but he but he had some but he had some

979
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: other problems. I've read some stuff and that whole Watergate

980
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: thing it was about about him being par annoyed about

981
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: the election being stolen from and they went into that

982
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: Watergate hotel to look for evidence that the Democrats were

983
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: trying to pull some kind of flim flam in that election.

984
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: And boy did come back by him. I mean, he

985
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: wasn't directly involved. He just knew about it after the

986
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: fact and didn't say, okay, guys, sorry, you know what,

987
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: he did this in my name. Can't do that. I'm

988
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: gonna have to, you know, have to catch a loot.

989
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: But instead he tried to He basically tried to cover

990
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: for him, and that's what killed him. History has forgotten

991
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: that he wasn't directly involved, and he was involved in

992
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: as an accessory after the right thing obviously would have

993
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: been the sound case. He can't go breaking into hotels

994
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: to try and find out, if you know, the election

995
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: fraund going on, which is kind of interesting give in

996
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: the last election we had same kind of the same

997
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: kind of issues come up. There wasn't there wasn't a

998
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: Watergate break and it was a breaking into Congress basically.

999
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, yeah, there is a ton of shows

1000
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: on Fox Nation as we've been going through, and there's

1001
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Speaker 1: a lot more than where. I mean, we could spend

1002
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Speaker 1: probably two days on here talking about all the different shows,

1003
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