1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast on Josh Clark. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: I am Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: that's stuff you should know. Let's all go home. Some 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: people are probably already home. Well, go to bed. Okay 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: told me that in the email the other day. Go 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: back to sleep. I don't get that. We're just being 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: goofy okay, just lightning the mood. I got you. Yeah, Hey, buddy, Hey, Josh, 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: I have a story for you. All right, let's hear it. 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: So last November, not too many months ago. Stop looking, 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: just listen, all right. Uh, there was a Carnival cruise 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: liner that had a little fire. The Carnival Splendor was 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: on a seven day trip to the Mexican Riviera and 14 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: about forty four miles off the coast of Mexico, it 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: went adrift because of fire in the engine room just 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: knocked everything out so they lost power, which means it 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: was basically just like um being on an abandoned boat, 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: but filled with people. Ghost ship a ghost ship and 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: filled with not just people, filled with two hundred and 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: fifty magicians who were on a convention. Um, it sounds 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: like my idea of hell on Earth. Okay. In addition 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: to the magicians, which apologies to any magicians listening, we've 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: got sculptures melting. You've got magicians they can't find their 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: rabbits um. You've got um toilets their own flush. You've 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: got um cabins that are um stuffy. You have um 26 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: warm food or warm drink. Yes, So Carnival, in their 27 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: credit did um give away free beer and wine and 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: all that. But it was warm. So for three days 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: all these people were just sitting adrift right in a 30 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: very just They weren't very happy. The US Navy flew 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: soorties out to this um this ship and dropped off supplies. 32 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: They dropped off canned lump crab meat, they dropped off 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: pop tarts, they dropped off a little something called spam 34 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: canned meat. And when the ship was finally I think 35 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: towed back to uh Port, sadly, the people dubbed this 36 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: crazy vacation. What do you think do you think they 37 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: taught They dubbed it the pop tart cation. Do you 38 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: think they dubbed it the lump crab meat cation? No, 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: of course they dubbed it spam Cation two thousand ten. Yeah, 40 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: that's like Chad's story. Our buddy Chad was on a cruise, 41 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: remember when he was younger, that the power went down. 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: He never told me this one. Oh yeah. He said 43 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: it was like Sodom and Gomora for a couple of days. Really. 44 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. He said that people were having a lot 45 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: of fun. I mean aging inside of me just and 46 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: go more and me having a good time, is what 47 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: he how he characterized it. That's crazy. I wonder if 48 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: he just didn't realize that it would have been like 49 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: that either way, with the power on or off. He 50 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: was just exposed to the power off part. I don't know. 51 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: He kind of made it seem like that with the 52 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: power down, people just it was a little nutty. It 53 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: was sort of like the end times are here. We're 54 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: on a cruise ship adrift, and let's just have have 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: fun with each other. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I've never been 56 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: on a cruise, you know. Yeah, I'm not a cruise guy. 57 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: My dad's he's turned into a cruise guy. He and uh, 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: he and my step mom are into cruises. But they, yeah, 59 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: my dad's way into him. Every time they go, they 60 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: come back with like a stomach bug or the flu 61 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: or just apparently they just it's like the epidemic just 62 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: goes through like crazy, like wildfire. My friend Andrew in 63 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: New York or from l A, but from the Bronx. 64 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Andrew his uh, he showed me the tape of his graham. 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: I think it was his grandmother, maybe it was his aunt. This, 66 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, like the old Jewish lady in New York 67 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: talking about a cruise and she was explaining about the 68 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: cruise and how much it costs and how much you get, 69 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: and she was like, it almost costs he said. She 70 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: said it costs more to stay at home, like she 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: thought it was cheaper to go on a cruise than 72 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: to just live her life at home. Huh, well, she 73 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: doesn't live in New York. It was very funny though. Yeah. 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: I didn't tell it right, but Andrew, if you're listening, 75 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: I still remember that. And if you're listening, Chuck, sorry 76 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: for that one. I am So that was spam cation 77 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: two thousen and of course they named it spam cation 78 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: spam the food. By the way, if you were hoping 79 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: to hear about spam email, sorry, we'll mention that. We'll 80 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: mention that briefly, but this is about the iconic potted meat, right, which, 81 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: by the way, Chuck, Next July five will be it's 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: seventy five birthday, July five, two twelve. It was in 83 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: truced to the public eleven, two twelve. It will have 84 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: been seventy five years since it was trademarked and technically born. Yeah, 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: and then you know, and twenty five years there will 86 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: be a spam tennial is what they'll probably call it, yes, 87 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: which will be spantastic. So, chuck, um, let's talk about spam. 88 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: It's shrouded in mystery. No one has a clue what's 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: in it, or in what degree, or what it's made of. 90 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: So Chuck, what is spam? Josh? Spam is a pinkish 91 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: brick of meat that is canned and it is We 92 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: actually do know what's in it. It is pretty easy. 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: It's uh, pork shoulder and ham, yeah, and hams from 94 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: the butt, right, It's from the rear hind legs and 95 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: rear end of the pig is what ham is. It's 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: also got a lot of salt because you need that 97 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: to help flavor and preserve the meat. And I got 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: a little bit of sugar for flavor and uh water 99 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: and then a tiny amount is what they say on 100 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: the Hormel site. They use the word tiny a tiny 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: amount of sodium nitrite, which keeps the botulism away. It's 102 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: keeps a botulism away. And it also keeps the pink 103 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: a shoe because if not, spam would turn gray, which 104 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: is not very appetizing. It's they're doing their best to 105 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: keep it pink. So um. I don't know that the 106 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: pinker the gray with spam specifically would make a difference. 107 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: But the grabster, for some reason who wrote this article 108 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: how spam? Um? He didn't He left out potato starts 109 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: for some reason. How was that in there? Yeah? Potato 110 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: starts in there too. I did not see that spam 111 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: has a Hormel on the website says the shelf life 112 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: is indefinite. No, yes, wow, they say it's indefinite. They 113 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: recommend you eat it. It It is stamped within three years 114 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: of the stamped because the flavor quote gradually declines. Wow, 115 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: it declines to the bottom of the can. Yeah, but 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: it's still edible. Shake it up. I'm sure it goes 117 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: right back. Yeah. That's really something. So should we do 118 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: history first or should we go into the production. Um, 119 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: we make sense to do history first. Well, let's do 120 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: history then. You know, before it was called spam, there 121 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: was a product on the market UM called Hormel spiced ham. 122 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: Did you know that? I did not know that? And 123 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't selling very well well, because Hormel was in 124 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: the fresh meat biz, right, And apparently it's just it 125 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: was hard to make your name in the fresh meat 126 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: biz because it was just kind of all the same looking, right, like, 127 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: look at this turkey breast. It looks like the turkey 128 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: breast next to us. Imagine they still have the same 129 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: problem today. But they decided to get into the can 130 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: meat business. Well that was George Hormel's problem. Jay Hormel 131 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: was the one who said, well, let's just let's yeah, 132 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: get into canned meat. And he was the son of George, 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: the founder. And this was in the late eight hundreds 134 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: in Austin, Minnesota, Yes, which is still the home of 135 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: UM Hormel. Yeah, right, and where it's one of two 136 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: places it's produced. No, there's a few others. Oh they 137 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: added some. Yeah, there's a care South Korea, Denmark, and 138 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: I can't remember where the third one is. Okay, in 139 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: North America. You're right, Freemont, Nebraska is the other place. So, um, 140 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Jay Hoormel is I guess the he comes into his 141 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: father's business and just revamped it and probably kept it 142 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: going today. Can meat see exactly. Um. One of the 143 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: reasons why he got into canned meat was because they 144 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: were just not able to make a name for themselves 145 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: in the fresh meat, but also because he came into 146 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: the business, um during the depression, and there was a 147 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: lot of thrifty nous, so people wanted something that um 148 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: was cheap and delicious that they could feed their family 149 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: but meaty, right, And Jayhormel gave him spiced ham. But 150 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't called spam at first, Like I said, it 151 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: was called spiced ham, right. Yeah, well he had he 152 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: had problems at first, um packaging it because it took 153 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot of trial and error because canning meat it 154 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: was a pretty new fangled thing at the time, and 155 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: apparently sell walls the heat would call. So yeah, we 156 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: need to point out that spam is cooked. Yeah, it 157 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: comes like you can eat it right out of the can. 158 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: It's I have already, have you man, not me? I mean, 159 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: I haven't eaten spam literally since college. But we used 160 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: to take it on camping trips and fried up. Well 161 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: yeah that's not right out of the can, No, but 162 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: I could also eat it out of the can circumstance. 163 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: I've never eaten it out of the can. Yeah, it's 164 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's the tastes the same, but man fried 165 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: like I was remembering that taste today. I mean it's 166 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: been twenty years, though probably not fifteen. It's been a 167 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: lot less than that for me really. Oh yeah, you 168 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: and these families from Okinawa and Okanawa's are crazy for 169 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: spam really Oh yeah, like Hawaiians. Yeah, we'll get to 170 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: that too. Uh so, uh, the cell walls would break 171 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: down and release the water from the meat, So what 172 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: would you would have was as dry meat floating in water, 173 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: which is pretty gross and separate because these cells would lice. 174 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: That's right, It's just not good. So over time they 175 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: figured out the canning process, which meant a lot of 176 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: salt in the preci uh temperature that you need to 177 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: cook it at to preserve it to where it is moist. 178 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: And it also has to be mixed in cannon a vacuum, 179 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: which is really important. That's the key. That's the key 180 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: if you Yeah, if you mix it and can it 181 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: in a vacuum, you should be okay. And speaking of key, 182 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: remember when you needed a key to open it? No, 183 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't alive then you are. It wasn't that long ago. 184 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention to spam. Yeah, there was a key. 185 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: It came attached to the can, and you would take 186 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: off the key and insert into a little thing and 187 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: roll it back like I guess like old sardine can's 188 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: used to do the same thing. Okay, yeah, no, I've 189 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: seen that in like cartoons from the sixties, But I 190 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: didn't know spam had that. Spam keys, huh before they 191 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: went I guess with the poll tab Like was that 192 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: like a giveaway though, like a spam key, like you'd 193 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: send off for it? Or would they came attached to 194 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of the can? Oh? Gotcha? Man, those are 195 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: the good old days. It was self contained and fairly explainatory. 196 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: All right. So Jay Hormel figures out how to can meet. Yes, 197 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: but he's not he He was a were in marketers. 198 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: The guy sold um. He came up with Hormel's chili kuncarnate, 199 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: and he hired a twenty piece Mexican band to go 200 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: around the country like touting it's goodness. And that was 201 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: Los Lobos, right, um, gypsy kings, I think. And uh 202 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: so like he would come up with great publicity since 203 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: he was good at marketing, but he was he was 204 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: hamstrung by U by the name Hornmele spiced meat. It 205 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: wasn't selling well. He had he had, he had it 206 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: figured out. Uh and he later on kind of messed 207 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: a little bit with the recipe to come up with 208 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: spam as we know it today, but there was something 209 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: similar called Hormel spiced ham. So he was having trouble 210 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: um coming up with a name. And he had a 211 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve party, right, Yeah, Well he had a 212 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: contest before the party, Yeah, and it yielded nothing. It 213 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: yielded names like brunch and Baby Grand and he was like, 214 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: we can do better than that. Um, and we should 215 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: probably give a shout out to Nito Rama, who had 216 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: a pretty good little blog post about it. Was that 217 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: where he saw it. Um, So, Hormels like, we need 218 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: to do better than that. I'm gonna have a New 219 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: Year's Eve party and I'm gonna tell my guests that 220 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: I will. They can get a free drink for every 221 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: name they write down on a slip of paper, and 222 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: there's a quote from him saying that along about the 223 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth drink, people started using their imaginations, right. Uh. 224 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: And finally a an actor named what was his name, Chuck? 225 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: His name was Kenneth d A I G n e 226 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: a U Danielle daniel We'll go with that, Okay. He 227 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: was a Broadway actor, I believe. Um he came up 228 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: with the name spam and one bucks. He had like 229 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: five slow gin fizzes and then came up with spam right, 230 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: one hundred cash, right, and that was it. I guess 231 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: he had to sign away the rights. Oh, I'm sure 232 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: right there on the spot. Yeah, He's like, I'll sign it, yeah, spam. 233 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: I wonder how he came up with it, besides the 234 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: fact that he was trunk. It's introuded in mystery. It's 235 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: lost to mysteries. A lot of if you go onto 236 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: the spam official site and they're like, what what does 237 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: spam mean? And there's a lot of there's a lot 238 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: of conjecture that it means things like um uh something 239 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: posing is meat, like it's an acronym um or that 240 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: it's a it stands for um stuff, pork and meat. Okay, 241 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: it's another acronym. Apparently there's dirty ones too. Yeah. But 242 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: what we need to point out though, again that spam 243 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: is not some weird mystery meat with all sorts of 244 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: like disgusting parts. It's unless you think pork shoulder and 245 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: ham is disgusting, right, I mean, we know what's in it, 246 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: that's true. UM. So, apparently it's lost to time. They 247 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: think it's just basically taking spiced and ham and put together. 248 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: But again, if you go on the official spam website, 249 00:13:53,480 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: they're like spam meat spam. Now, that's what we're going with. UM. 250 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: So that's where the name came from. Was seven that 251 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: Hormel trademarked. It introduced it to the public, and it 252 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: started to take off pretty well. But it was actually 253 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: aided by UM in a an obscure act by the 254 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: US Congress that that was past in one called the 255 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: lend Lease Act, right, that has something to do with 256 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the exportation it did so in America was neutral still 257 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: in the in what was becoming World War Two, and 258 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: they the Congress passed the lend Lease Act saying that 259 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: the President had the authority to send weapons, supplies and 260 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: food to countries that were fighting the Access power, which 261 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: effectively reversed the neutral neutral stance we had. Right. Yeah, 262 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: and spam is a good thing to send because it's 263 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: you can have it forever, it's in a can that 264 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: can get dented up, and soldiers apparently could eat a 265 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of it, and not just soldiers, people in other 266 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: countries in restaurants. They shipped a hundred million pounds of 267 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, So Hormel was like, hey, we've got 268 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff for you, give us a contract, 269 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: and they did, and it became ubiquitous in World War two, 270 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: especially in the Pacific. Right, so, two things are going 271 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: on with the g i's. Well, two things are going 272 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: on with World War Two. One, the gis are eating 273 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: this stuff or what they thought was spam morning, noon 274 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: and night, and hated it because they've got so sick 275 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: of it. And secondly, it was also being shipped to 276 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: countries that were part of the Pacific and European theaters. 277 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: And then after World War two stopped, these people had 278 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: developed a taste for spam. Well, even the soldiers that 279 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: hated it came back and they were kind of like 280 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a boy now kind of misspam. They could really go 281 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: for some spam exactly. So World War two is like 282 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: this incredibly strange, perfect marketing platform for spam. Yeah. Uh. 283 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: And then right after World War Two, apparently J. Hormel 284 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: recognized what was going on and he um let out 285 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: another advertising blitz back here in the States, and that 286 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: was the household name. From that point on, it was 287 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: a perfect sporm if you will. Sorry. Uh, Now does 288 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: that explain why it's popular in Hawaii and Japan because 289 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: the Pacific thing? Yeah? Okay, and especially in Okinawa. Um, 290 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: there've been marines there forever and um Apparently anywhere the 291 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: American military goes and has like a very big open 292 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: presence in the local population, spam is a big thing. 293 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: But for some reason, people have Asian descent are crazy 294 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: for spam. Well they make it. I know in Hawaii 295 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: they have it and like sushi rolls and stuff like that. 296 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Imagine they do in Japan too. Yeah, it's um. I 297 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. In Pan it's called um sam spam musubi. 298 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: It's the slices spam on a slab of rice wrapped 299 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: in newry, which is a seaweed. There's yours, not even 300 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: like avocado or row or anything like that. It's spam. Man, 301 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Is it cooked or is it raw? It looked cooked 302 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: in the picture I saw. Well, I'm sure you can 303 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: find it anyway. You're talk cooked. But it was like 304 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: cooked again, right okay? Um. And in in Hawaii also 305 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Burger King and McDonald's you can find like spam, rice 306 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: and eggs on their menu their breakfast menu. It's everywhere 307 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: it is. It is ubiquitous. And they're nearing their eight 308 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: billiant can of spam pushing it out there. Ye all right, 309 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: so that's the history. Oh we should also say the 310 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: Hormel Corporation is um often like alleged often has alleged 311 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: unfair labor practices and stuff like that these days. Um. 312 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: But J. Hormel was dubbed by I think Fortune magazine 313 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: the red Capitalist because he was really progressive with labor 314 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: relations in a good way. Yeah. There was like a 315 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: three day strike once and he had a platform built 316 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: so he could meet with the labor leaders, and he 317 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: hammered out things like, um, an annual wage, uh, a 318 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: fifty two weeks notice before termination for workers a year 319 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: like a year from now, you're going to be laid off, 320 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: um profit sharing, all this stuff that was unheard of. 321 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: He became like a really like and he managed to 322 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: create really good relations with his employees, which helped, you know, 323 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: get them to really work hard to turn this stuff out. 324 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: I'd say fifty two weeks is almost foolish as an employer, Yeah, 325 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: because when it nears, it's like, no, no, we need 326 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: to know. Don't worry about that. Yeah. Alright, so that's 327 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: the spam history. Now we should talk a little bit, 328 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: Josh about spam production because it's pretty neat. Oh, like 329 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: we said, Austin, Minnesota and Fremont, Nebraska's where it's made 330 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: here in the States. And it is such a highly 331 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: automated process that apparently it only takes thirteen workers to 332 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: run the spam factory. And imagine a lot of those 333 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: are shaving trimming ham because Ed says, pig pieces arrive 334 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: at the plantin the street. Yeah, they grow, the grow 335 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: the pigs. They they grow and kill the pigs across 336 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: the street. The machines removed the pork from the bone, 337 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: but the ham is trimmed by hand. Uh. They grind 338 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: it up into eight thousand pound batches. Flash cool. It 339 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: blend it and mix it with the other stuff, and 340 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: then pipe it. Police of it. When meat is pipe 341 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: pipe it to a conveyor belt where it's pumped in 342 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: a can and sealed shut right off the bat and 343 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: then it's cooked. Right. It is cooked in these in 344 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: the can. It's cooked in the can in these six 345 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: story cookers that can hold up to like sixty six 346 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: thousand cans at a time, which is something because the 347 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: think they they all of the um the capacity for 348 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: all I think five spam factories is something like umto 349 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: thousand cans an hour, so they need this huge capacity 350 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: to cook that many cans at once. Your stomachs growling 351 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: spam right now. I almost I thought about bringing some 352 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: in because we kind of regretted with the Twinkie cast 353 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: not eating Twinkies live on the air. But um, yeah, spam, Terry, 354 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: do you have any spam? She's fresh out? Okay, nothing 355 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: fresh about it. So it is cooked in the can 356 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: that kills the bacteria and obviously cooks it, wash it 357 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: and cool it and then applied the plastic label used 358 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: to be lithographed on the can itself, which I remember, 359 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: and it had a different picture. It had a loaf 360 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: of spam with clothes in it, and now it's a 361 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: spam burger. I prefer the old picture. Yeah. And that 362 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: the lithic lithograph went away, and I think and they 363 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: went with probably the cheaper plastic rap on the can. 364 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: I imagine that's why they did it. Lithography is not 365 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: cheap um. And then it is shipped all over the 366 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: country and then they license it like I guess they 367 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: they probably dont ship it all, well, they probably should. 368 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: You know the ones here, the two and the one 369 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: in Nebraska and the one in Minnesota supply North America, 370 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: South America, and Australia. Okay, yeah, And they sat on 371 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: the Hormet website. If you've ever wondered what spam taste like, 372 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: it is a quote wonderful combination of a savory, salty, 373 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: sweet taste that will make your taste buds dance. I 374 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: know they did a lot of self promotion on the 375 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: official website. If you ask me dance and taste. Oh yeah, 376 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: of course. It was like did you go through all 377 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: the questions? It was like, how should I eat spam? 378 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: Eat delicious spam? Anyway you deliciously spamily want to spam? Uh? 379 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: They have a museum, of course, the Spam Museum, which 380 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: is free, which is as it should be, and it 381 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: sounds awesome. Did you read the Roadside America article on it. Yeah, 382 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: and I looked at some of the pictures too. It's 383 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: it's cool, like it's a cool museum. There was one 384 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: guide on the Roadside America article named John who seemed 385 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: to tell it like it is. Like he talked about 386 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: the hog place across the streets, like they slaughter twenty 387 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: thousand head a hog across the street there every day. 388 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: It's like at the Spam meets you, that's in the 389 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: Spam Museum. It was one of the guides. And apparently 390 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: they employee retired spam factory workers as guides. And this 391 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: guy was just like a straight shooter, right yeah, So 392 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: if you go, you should ask for John. Really, that's 393 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: what I That's what I gathered. I can't wait to 394 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: hear from people from Minnesota about this that live near there. 395 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: I wonder what the oh man, the smell that gives it. 396 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: Uh So, let's get to the health benefits of spam. 397 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: It's not healthy. It's not apparently a twelve ounce camp 398 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: which just the standard size. There's two sets, the twelve 399 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: and the nine and the seven. But if you're eating spam, 400 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: you're you're going for the twelve. Yeah, that's the one 401 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: you normally see. The twelve ounce can. That little twelve 402 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: ounce can has six servings in it. Yeah. I would 403 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: say that's about a slice roughly, wouldn't you say? Yeah, 404 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: I'd say, like a sort of thick ish slice is 405 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: a serving. So there's six of them in there. So 406 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: so one slice basically has thirty a third of your 407 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: recommended intake of daily of sodium. Yes, so a full 408 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: can is a hundred percent of your daily sodium and take. Yeah, 409 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: that's two times what you should be eating. Yes. Um, 410 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: it has a lot of saturated fat. A lot of 411 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: fat and a lot of it is saturated grams in 412 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: total in a twelve ounce can. Which and you always 413 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: got to do the big Mac comparison. A single can 414 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: of spam is a little bit less than three Big 415 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: Max wow stuffed in that little can. Uh. They do 416 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: have reduced sodium and light versions, they do. We need 417 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: to point that out. Who's eating that? The health conscious spam? E? Yeah, 418 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean surely people are eating it. Yeah, they're going 419 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: down the grocery store island, going like I could go 420 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: from the spam, but I really should watch myself and 421 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: I'll get the spam white. All right. I need to 422 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: point out in fairness, we're making some jokes here about 423 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: spam eaters, but there are poor people who rely on 424 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: things like spam, and I just want to point that. 425 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: I don't want people to write and saying, you know, 426 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: like like I used to have one on one or 427 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: to the Golden Pantry and Athens, I would have these 428 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: daily like cheap hourly workers come in and buy like 429 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: potted meat and spam and sausage is huge, and they 430 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: would spend literally like the little pack of crackers and 431 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: the potted meat was their lunch and they would spend 432 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: like a dollar fifty on it because it couldn't afford 433 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: anything else. So we're not making fun of those people. 434 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: We're making fun of rich people who eat spam. I'm 435 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: not making fun of anybody, okay, um, And actually, if 436 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: you bring that up, because you brought that up, spam 437 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: was born out of the depression. Yeah, well Exa apparently 438 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: now during the recession, it's production is through the roof again. 439 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: It's a demand just crazy for it, so we're not 440 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: mocking but spam and they seem to take it. I mean, 441 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: it's all advertising for them. They've embraced the the culture 442 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: of spam and everything that it entails. And it's just 443 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: so it's the cheesiest meat around. It's impossible to not 444 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: make fun of, you know what I mean. Yeah, sure, 445 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: it's a pop culture I count, which is why we're 446 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: doing this podcast exactly. We're not doing one on well. 447 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: I guess we could do one of vina sausages, also 448 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: made by Hormel i ate one not too long ago 449 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: at the School of Humans. Wow, they served vien A 450 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: sausages at their little rat party. Nice and uh they 451 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: taste exactly the same as I remember. I've never tasted one, 452 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: but I can tell just by looking at it exactly 453 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: what it tastes like. It's sort of Bologna esque in 454 00:25:48,400 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 1: a tube. Two. All right, So, there has been some 455 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: research that suggests that potted and processed meats might increase 456 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: the risk of cancer. Yes, the FDA still says no, No, 457 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: it's fine, but there's two. Was a big year for 458 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: that was that the University Hawaii study. Yeah, and they 459 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: found that your sixty more likely developed pancreatic cancer if 460 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: you consume large amounts of processed meats. And the reason 461 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: why is because that's sodium nitrite. That's what they think sodium, well, 462 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: this is this is why they think it. That's correlated. Right. 463 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: Sodium nitrite itself is not a core carcinogen, that that 464 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: preservative that they put in um. But if you combine 465 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: nitrite with amines, and amines are found in meat. UM, 466 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: when they combine and they're metabolized and they combine, they 467 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: form nitrosamins nitrosamines. Yeah, man, I wish I would have 468 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: said that right the first time. Those are carcinogen. Most 469 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: of them are UM. I can't remember who did it, 470 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: but somebody's sampled three d UM nitrosamines and them we're 471 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: carcinogenic UM. So we can make as as far as 472 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: people think um nitrite into nitrosen nitrosa means. So if 473 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: we're eating cured meat, we're converting it into a carcin 474 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: engine in our body. That's the fear cured meat or 475 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: process process cured meat. But anything that has um sodium 476 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: nitrite in it, bacon, cooking bacon makes it carcinogenic by 477 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: under this logic. Right, So there isn't like a direct 478 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: um causal link, which is why the FDA is not 479 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: doing anything. Is privly surprised, but the logic is there. 480 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: That's where the fear comes from. Okay, that's where the 481 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: fear sets in. And we mentioned that that was done 482 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: by the University of Hawaii, and that is because, as 483 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: we said, Hawaii and Hawaiians love their spam. Do you 484 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: have any stats on that? Yeah? What was it? Uh? 485 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: I think the for every Hawaiian they eight six pounds 486 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: of spam per year. I think so they definitely eat 487 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, three pounds. So so I've seen different numbers here. 488 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: I saw six cans per person per year. If you 489 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: spread it out across the population evenly as a whole, 490 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: the state eats eight million of the hundred million cans 491 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: that are made uh that are consumed in the US 492 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: every year, which seems low. Yeah, I got all sorts 493 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: of It's all over the place. The numbers are all 494 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: over the place. But Hawaii leads the nation in spam consumption. Well, 495 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: and they said it's far and away, so they didn't 496 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: they didn't tell me who was second place. Um, I 497 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: imagine Georgia ranks. It's probably up there scrapple. I'll bet 498 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: Georgia leads in scrapple consumption. I bet California is pretty 499 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: low on the list of space think so um, but yes, 500 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: Hawaii is crazy for it. If you can find it 501 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: in a McDonald's. Uh, it's it means that it's part 502 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: of your local culture. And remember in fifty First Dates 503 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: it was a big, big thing. Uh sort of saw that, 504 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: but don't remember the spam references. It was, Yeah, anytime 505 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: they were at the restaurant there was like some spam joke. Okay, 506 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: I think I might have checked out it. Like The 507 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: First State. It was a cute movie that drew Barrymore. 508 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: I love her. We have to mention Monty Python's Flying 509 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Circus because they a had the Broadway show or have 510 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: spam a lot. That's the running I think so somewhere. 511 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's on the ruin big hit and in 512 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies they're awesome show. The Flying Circus was 513 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: had a very famous skit about spam. Did you watch it? Yeah? 514 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: I watch it again today. I'd seen it before. I 515 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: think my favorite part is the beginning when the couple 516 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: just comes down on wires into the chairs. Yeah, I liked. 517 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: Who played the wife was a Terry Gilliam now, uh 518 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I think it. Oh shoot, I can't remember his name. 519 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: Terry Jones maybe, Okay, I'm not sure. He was hilarious 520 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: in it. And the joke was that there's a spam 521 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: is on the menu all over the place in this 522 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: diner in England, and that there's also a big group 523 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: of Vikings that starts singing a spam song. Right then 524 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: it's just just just type in money Python spam and 525 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: go for the one that has three million views is 526 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: vintage um A little uh back to the history for 527 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: a second. Um Hormel was so involved in the war 528 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: effort that they had a wartime mascot called Slam and Spammy. 529 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: I did not see that, which was an armed pig 530 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: throwing grenades ostensibly at Um Hitler. Oh of course, yeah Hitler. Yeah, 531 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: you gotta throw spam at Hitler. No throwing grenades. Oh 532 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: they weren't made of spam, No, they were grenades. Okay. 533 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: He was like he didn't even look like a cute pig. 534 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: He looked like a like the kind of pig you'd 535 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: see like painted on the front of an airplane in 536 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: World War Two. Okay, I thought it they were throwing 537 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: like spam grenades. No, No, you wanted to keep the 538 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: spam from the Nazis. That would help them. Yeah, you 539 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: don't want them to want to You want to ring 540 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: death upon them, not spam, right, that makes sense though, 541 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: if you drop spam from high enough, it would kill you. Yeah. 542 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: I guess it wouldn't be very good marketing if they're 543 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: throwing spam to trying to stop Uh. What else we 544 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: got we have? Well, we should talk about the email 545 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: um version of spam and where that came from. The 546 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: story I got is that in the early days of 547 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: the internets, remember bulletin boards, if a bulletin board user 548 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: wanted to scroll you off the screen, they just started 549 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: typing spam and copy pasting it until you were removed 550 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: from the screen. That's what I heard. That's a good one. 551 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: And then and they got that from the Monty Python 552 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: thing evidently, and then early chat rooms same thing. Uh 553 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: that it was initially called flooding and then simply spamming. 554 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 1: And then eventually the email version came around. And it 555 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: does not stand for stupid, pointless annoying message. Yeah, that's 556 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: stupid that's just a fault. So that makes me want 557 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: to beat someone up. What else we got? Uh? My 558 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: personal experience with spam has been pretty pleasant. Let's hear um. 559 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: Let's see. I've had it in curry. It's very, very 560 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: good in curry with rice nice um. I was in 561 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: Switzerland once I had Metsica rosti, which was one of 562 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: the greatest things I've ever had in my entire life. 563 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: It's um like fried hash brown potatoes, slice of fried spam, 564 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: fried eggs, and then this divine gravy and I ate 565 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: that as often as I could. Surely I've mentioned it before. 566 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Metsica rochty. He throws some French fries on there. And 567 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: your permanes. Yeah, I've never had permanes. Uh. Muppet Treasure 568 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: Island featured a character UM called spam spa apostrophe a 569 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: m Is that what that was on? Yeah? Okay, And 570 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: he was a big um wart hog who also wore 571 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: a necklace of shrunken pig heads, so that kind of 572 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: ties back in with our shrunken head thing. So he 573 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: was nuts. He was nuts, and it's The Hormel Company 574 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: sued the Jim Hinson Company for quote a noxious appealing 575 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: wild boar who was quote intentionally portrayed to be evil 576 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: in poor sign form named Sam. I guess they called 577 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: him spam and the Hintson company was like, we're just 578 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: kidding around, like can we settle this. It's get a 579 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: sense of humor. And I think it was settled. I don't. 580 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't think either that or they just lost the lawsuit. 581 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: I got a world record for you. Oh yeah, let's 582 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: hear Richard Lefevre orlefarv eight six pounds of spam in 583 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: twelve minutes. Wow, and I think he holds the record. 584 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: Still wait, hold on, you keep talking. I'm gonna do 585 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: some math. And there is uh if you want to go. 586 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: There are different um spam festivals, but I think the 587 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: big daddy is in waiki Ki. The waiki Ki Spam Jam. 588 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: UM there just tell their eighth one in April, and 589 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: I believe they hold it every year in April. And 590 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: that is where lovers of spam congregate two trade recipes 591 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: and spam related products like t shirts and mugs and 592 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: Christmas ornaments and just all things spam. There's spam sculpting 593 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: contests to um how many how how fast did that 594 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: guy eat six pounds twelve minutes. He ate um eight 595 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: cans of spam, eight twelve ounce cannons of spam in 596 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: twelve minutes. Then so what's that? What's the sodium in that? Oh? 597 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: I didn't do that math. Well, if that was of 598 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: your daily intake in a can. So he ate eight 599 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: sent of his sodium intake for the day in twelve minutes, 600 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: and he loved to tell about it. As far as 601 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: I know, he's alive, and well, let's spam. I got 602 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: nothing else, you know, I would like to do some time, Barbie. 603 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: I thought that would be fascinating. That lawsuit you mentioned 604 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: like made me think of barbiem Tell loves to sue 605 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: anybody and everybody they can you just want to push 606 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: push their buttons. No, it's just interesting. Yeah, we've had 607 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: UM I sort of like these pop culture ones. We 608 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: had someone say we should do Peanuts. Charles Schultz is Peanuts. 609 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: You know. I looked into that and I may be 610 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: writing the article, So maybe we'll do that. That would 611 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: be awesome. Yeah, and yeah, we're long overdue for the 612 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: Doctor Seu's podcast too. Okay, Well, there you go, keep 613 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: listening because it will eventually get better. Okay, that's what 614 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: we just basically promised. If you want to learn more 615 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: about spam and read about Ed Grabanowski's take on it. 616 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: He tries it for the first time while he's writing 617 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: this article, and there's a step by step picture graph 618 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: of how to make a pride spam and cheese sandwich. 619 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: Just type spam. Actually, we should probably do everybody a favor. 620 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: Go to your favorite search engine, type spam food and 621 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: then how stuff works, and it will bring up the 622 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: spam arc. Is it the number one hit? It's it's 623 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: It's up there, but it's tough to find on our 624 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: site because so much computer spam articles. Uh, do that 625 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: and and then go into the handy search bar and 626 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: type whatever you want. And I said handy search bar. 627 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: So that means it's time for listeningmail. Yes, Josh, I'm 628 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna call this. UH from Kristen, our sixteen year old 629 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: fan from Toronto, which is in Canada. She has She 630 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: sent us a really nice email about how she listens 631 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: to it with her family and how she learns things 632 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: and all the different things she's learned. And then she 633 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: got to a p S which I'll skip to. PS. 634 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: I've always wondered how do you guys distribute your information 635 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: so evenly between the two of you. Maybe it's just me, 636 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: but I remember an elementary school almost every group presentation 637 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: ended in either tears or a fight because someone spoke 638 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: more than their fair share. I know you guys aren't 639 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: in the fifth grade anymore, but you seem like nice 640 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: civil guys. But be honest, have you ever had any 641 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: disagreements off the over someone stealing the thunder? And if 642 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: you haven't, how do you avoid that? Because your listeners 643 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: would want to know put this on the spot. Yeah, 644 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: I think it's just it's equitable. You know, some shows 645 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: might speak a little more some Josh does, and it's 646 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: just it does no good. I think you grow up 647 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: a little bit and you realize this just it's silly 648 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: to think of things like that. Yeah, And I think 649 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: by doing that, we've just kind of even out. And 650 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: I think also, if one of us gets the impression 651 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: that we're talking too much, we usually t the other 652 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: one not. Yeah, that's pretty much it. It's gonna have 653 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: a boring answer, wouldn't it to. It's it's just not 654 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: being in fifth grade anymore. I think I remember, I 655 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: don't think I wanted the spotlight in the fifth grade. 656 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: Like I think I was one of those is like, 657 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: I'll write it and you you were like the evil 658 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: genies behind the dance puppets. Yeah. Yeah, So there's your answer, 659 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: fish bulb. If you have a question for us, you 660 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: want to look by scenes, that's fine. It was like Kristen, 661 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: Kristen from Toronto. Thank you Kristen from Toronto. Um, if 662 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: you have a question for us, you want to peek 663 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, we'll answer anything, but we probably won't, 664 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: but we'll say we will because we like interesting questions. 665 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: You can send them to Stuff podcast at how stuff 666 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: works dot com for more on this and thousands of 667 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: other topics. Does it how stuff works dot com.