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Speaker 1: two very very quick announcements. First of all, there are

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Speaker 1: still some tickets available to my show on July eighth

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Speaker 2: Okay, Earnestness Bonanza Patriotic Edition ironically starts now, what's up

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Speaker 2: everyone in the United States of America? How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: God bless this nation and God bless podcasters, comedians and

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Speaker 1: writer performers everywhere, and not just that God bless their fans, listeners,

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Speaker 1: followers on social media Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, people who share

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Speaker 1: a reposted tweet that appeared on a meme page on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: God bless the people that hit share. Blessed, bless all

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Speaker 2: you are putting in the work. You are the reason

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Speaker 2: this nation exists. Without sharers, we wouldn't have stars, and

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Speaker 2: without stars, we don't have soft power. And without soft power,

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Speaker 2: we crumble.

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Speaker 1: Without soft power, Where are you going to find the

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Speaker 1: hard power? How are you going to build hard power

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Speaker 1: with no meme pages to amplify your message? I'd like

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Speaker 1: to know. I'd honestly like to know. Anyone has any ideas,

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Speaker 1: Please get in touch. Just trad or lab at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 2: People that hit share are in direct opposition to guns

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Speaker 2: and bombs and others such weaponry.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you don't hit share, that's the

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Speaker 1: bystander effect you are doing.

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Speaker 2: You are not taking responsibility for your role as a

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Speaker 2: citizen and creating star power. And every time you don't share,

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Speaker 2: to make up for the fact that you didn't hit shair.

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Speaker 1: Guess what, Oh, you're laughing at something and then just

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Speaker 1: you're keeping scrolling. What is that? What are you afraid of? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are you afraid of being vulnerability?

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Speaker 1: Being vulnerability private? Oh god, you're afraid of being vulnerability.

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Speaker 1: Oh you just had a private moment to yourself. What

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Speaker 1: does that do for me? Make it public? Sweetheart.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, this actually taps into something very real. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Which is when someone is like text me like that

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Speaker 2: was so funny, I'm like, tell people, how about I

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Speaker 2: know you have over twenty more thousand dollowers that I do.

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Speaker 2: How about you tell the people you're texting me? And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, there's an internal shame about you that you're

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Speaker 2: How about you take the thing that I'm sure I

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Speaker 1: Don't put it on at Sam Tager at.

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Speaker 2: Sam Tager and then I'll reshare it and then we'll

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Speaker 2: have a sort of harmony, a beautiful harmony in this

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Speaker 1: Do you know I really feel like the past I

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we both actually talk about earnestness bonanza.

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Speaker 2: We're also not naturally good at it, and I haven't

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Speaker 1: And it's also work in progress. We have certainly not

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Speaker 1: We're not the CMO, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: trigger alert playing. We are at play. We're in a

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Speaker 1: We haven't a sense of play. If it was up

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Speaker 2: But that's the whole point. Is that the whole point

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Speaker 2: idea of feeling shame around being humiliated. Of course, any

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Speaker 2: posting that you're a child? Stop it?

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Speaker 1: But if anything, that's more humiliating than posting an Instagram

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Speaker 2: They don't know the real you because you're too worried

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Speaker 1: Should we start? Yeah, welcome to Welcome to our July

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Speaker 1: fourth Earnestness Bonanza.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're having a beautiful summer in our earnestest bonanzas.

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Speaker 2: For those that don't know, we drop the bit and

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Speaker 1: Nextly spilled next question, All right, this is okay, this

435
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Speaker 1: is from River. It is from River. However, it is

436
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Speaker 1: signed all of your lesbian fan base. So I'm if

437
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Speaker 1: River was elected to be the head of this position

438
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Speaker 1: or if it was more of a self appointed situation.

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, this is what River writes happy pride dot

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Speaker 1: dot dot love that I love in ellipses.

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Speaker 2: It implies a lot of emotion, but nothing specific.

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Speaker 1: One hundred First question, can you please speak earnestly and

443
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Speaker 1: freely about your theme song that you recorded when you

444
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: switched over to Big Money Players. The community is watching

445
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: and needs to know what happened. Okay, Basically, we had

446
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: a theme song I guess about a year ago at

447
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Speaker 1: this point, we like redid our theme song, and then

448
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Speaker 1: there was public outcry of the kind I have certainly

449
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Speaker 1: not seen since the famous Al Gore George W. Bush

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Speaker 1: recount of two thousand.

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Speaker 2: And The song was by a friend named Brooks Allison,

452
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Speaker 2: and he's very talented, a very talented music guy. I

453
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Speaker 2: saw him today even but we got like I would say,

454
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Speaker 2: like a few complaints. But for some reason, it was

455
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Speaker 2: like the relaunch, and we were both like, I don't know,

456
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Speaker 2: I guess let's just pull it.

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Speaker 1: And well, I just I want to make one tiny clarification,

458
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Speaker 1: which is that the song was really good. I honestly

459
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Speaker 1: think we couldn't crack is our vocal, so to speak.

460
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Speaker 1: So we had it was basically like this jingle, and

461
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Speaker 1: then under it we would sort of say like welcome

462
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Speaker 1: to Straightio Lab, a podcast about gay culture or about

463
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Speaker 1: straight culture, and then we would have like a little

464
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Speaker 1: you know, you had a line and I had a line,

465
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Speaker 1: and then we did like podcast starts now or whatever.

466
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Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone had any complaints about the

467
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Speaker 1: actual music and I actually think the music was great.

468
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Speaker 1: I was really happy with it. I was like excited

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Speaker 1: for a rebrand. But there's something about we just couldn't

470
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Speaker 1: quite crack it. And I really do think it's because

471
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Speaker 1: both of us are way better in the moment than

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Speaker 1: with this sort of prerecorded stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to say thank you for catching

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Speaker 2: me on that. I wasn't trying to say that it

475
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Speaker 2: was Brooks did something wrong. He did exactly what we asked,

476
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Speaker 2: and it was very Gooyes. And our vocals we like

477
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Speaker 2: kind of wrote like what we were going to say

478
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Speaker 2: last minute, and I even like, I feel like I

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Speaker 2: would even say I was really pushing for, like I

480
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: really wanted like a explanation of what the podcast is

481
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: because so that we could be like silly right up top,

482
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Speaker 2: because exactly. But then it was like, yeah, it doesn't.

483
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Speaker 2: Our vocals were hastily written and like not correct, and.

484
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Speaker 1: I want to say, you know, to be perfectly candid.

485
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: Our inspiration for what we were trying to do was Poog.

486
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: Because in Poog, which is Cape ber Lant and Jack

487
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: Lynovak's podcast, they start with this, there's like a little

488
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: jingle and then they're like welcome, to poog an ongoing

489
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: conversation between two obsessive friends, two untamable intellects, blah blah blah,

490
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Speaker 1: and then they're like, this is our hobby, this is

491
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Speaker 1: our hell, this is our naked desire for pre product,

492
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Speaker 1: and it's so perfectly done where you're like, I understand

493
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Speaker 1: what this is about. I understand what the point of

494
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Speaker 1: view is. I understand what these women's sensibilities are. And unfortunately,

495
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: you know we're too complex for that. So true, but

496
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Speaker 1: that is sort of what we were going for. And

497
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Speaker 1: know what, it's fine. Not everything's gonna work out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah whatever. I like that. We were both like it

499
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: was like how I don't know if you saw, but

500
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: like people pointed out that Roman in Succession had a

501
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: wife and a kid at the beginning of Succession, and

502
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: then they just sort of dropped it and moved on. Yeah.

503
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: I actually love when stuff can do that.

504
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Speaker 1: And that's fine. I really think admitting to failure is

505
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: one of the most important things in life, and I

506
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: do it constantly. Sam, I would love for you to

507
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Speaker 1: read the next book.

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Speaker 2: Does Sam have any lesbian friends? We know that George

509
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: has lesbian friends first and foremost. The couple from the

510
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Speaker 2: lesbian wedding in Mexico. But we have noticed that Sam

511
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Speaker 2: has never mentioned or shout it out any of his

512
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Speaker 2: lesbian friends. No pressure, of course, and it's okay, all

513
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Speaker 2: caps if he doesn't.

514
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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I want to point out that, yeah,

516
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Speaker 2: of course I have lesbian friends, and I also want

517
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Speaker 2: to point out and maybe take this out if George

518
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Speaker 2: doesn't approve. I remember George saying that the lesbians he

519
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Speaker 2: went to the wedding for he wasn't even that close

520
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: with and was surprised that he got invited. Wow. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I remember for sure him saying that, and so I

522
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Speaker 2: don't think it counts as a shout out.

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Speaker 1: Sweetheart, Mama, I don't know why I am being attacked

524
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Speaker 1: when I'm not the one that asked this question. I'm

525
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: out there supporting lesbian love. I am quite literally an

526
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Speaker 1: investor in the L word colon Generation Q. Every day

527
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Speaker 1: I wake up and I support queer women to the

528
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Speaker 1: best of my ability.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting because I remember you erasing the fact that

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Speaker 2: they were queer from the wedding narrative until you couldn't

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Speaker 2: hid be guess.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's normal, because to me, it's normal that

533
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Speaker 1: they're queer. No, um, yeah, you have lesbian friends anyone

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Speaker 1: z way vibes no za ways not a lesbian Next question, question,

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Speaker 1: next question.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I will say, just on the personal note, for me,

538
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Speaker 1: when I was in college a sort of running joke,

539
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: I had a lot of lesbian I still do have

540
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: a healthy amount of lesbian friends, but in college, I

541
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Speaker 1: would say I like really gravitated towards lesbians, and first

542
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Speaker 1: of all, because they happened to be very lovely people.

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Speaker 1: The specific ones that I was friends with happen to

544
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Speaker 1: be very lovely people whose company I enjoyed. But also

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Speaker 1: I actually think, and I don't know if you can

546
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Speaker 1: relate to this at any point in your life, there

547
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: was something about it where I was like, I want

548
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Speaker 1: to be friends with queer people, but I'm afraid, but

549
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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to have Like I feel intimidated by

550
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Speaker 1: a gay end because I feel like I am an experienced,

551
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Speaker 1: I feel like i'm muly out, I feel like I'm

552
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Speaker 1: going to say the wrong thing. And actually queer women

553
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: were way more welcoming to me and way friendlier in

554
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Speaker 1: a lot of these sort of like early queer spaces.

555
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Speaker 2: So I would say in college I was friends with

556
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: very few gay people in general. Yeah, it was not

557
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: my gay era for sure, but yeah, I feel like

558
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: then after college, all the friends I've made are comedians.

559
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: So at first it was straight people and then it

560
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: was like the gay guy squad that we all know

561
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Speaker 2: and love. And then I feel like the generation below us,

562
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: there's like a thriving lesbian circles and that's and I

563
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Speaker 2: consider them all friends as well.

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Speaker 1: I know so many genuinely in multiple cities, like over

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Speaker 1: four cities. If I were to go, I would stay

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Speaker 1: with a lesbian couple.

567
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

568
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: Like my friends Lily and Kara are in Boston. That's

569
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Speaker 1: why I would stay. If I were to go to Boston.

570
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Speaker 1: My friends Emma and Miranda are in Berkeley. If I

571
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Speaker 1: went to the area, that's probably who I would stay with.

572
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, now I'm going to like forget

573
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Speaker 1: some other people and they're going to be mad at me.

574
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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you it's lesbian couples have the best

575
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Speaker 1: guest rooms. And you can take that to the bank.

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Speaker 2: Do you keep all your lesbian friends' names on a list?

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the list of people AM going to send my

578
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Speaker 1: gorgeous year end gifts.

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Speaker 2: To well, thank you, River. I will as always listen

580
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Speaker 2: and learn and continue to work to reach across the isle.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Should we do this last little bit? Let's

582
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: do it super quickly. We can give each of them

583
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Speaker 1: a Kinsy rating. How about that?

584
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: Okay?

585
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so River says, by the way, River still speaking

586
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Speaker 1: in the royal we because River represents all our lesbian fans.

587
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: And they say, lastly, we have a few straight topics

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00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: that we think should be discussed in upcoming episodes. I'm

589
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: gonna just like go through them very quickly and we

590
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: can like give a little Kinsy rating. Okay. Number one

591
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Speaker 1: big mouth to me, big mouth is very queer.

592
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's almost so queer that it goes back

593
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: around to being straight because it's like, also, look how

594
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Speaker 2: comfortable I am with queer.

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Speaker 1: Totally totally. There is something where exists in this like

596
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: dream world where everyone, all these literal teen boys are

597
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: like okay with everyone being bisexual.

598
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh totally, it's whatever. I don't want to get into it.

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00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, having said that, I would like to work there now.

600
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that even still going? Whatever it is? Now

601
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: we're rebooting, rebooting it, and this time it's all straight.

602
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: Second topic fighting in public. I will say this is straight.

603
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: I will say this is straight as well. It's gay

604
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: is more like through whispers and cloak and dagger, if you.

605
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: Will totally totally fighting in public is straight. And I

606
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: also think a sort of you know, a non abusive

607
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: let me clarify, like mother sort of grabbing the wrist

608
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: of her kid. Very straight, like just like be quiet,

609
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: That is very straight. Okay. Next one is ups and

610
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: downs in relationships.

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00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's bisexual. I think everyone across the

612
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: globe has it.

613
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: I agree. Next one family group chats very straight. I

614
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, for sure, I am I am in one.

615
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: I am in one as well, but you know you

616
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: can't be perfect, yea. And then trains queer. Queer trains

617
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: are actually maybe the most queer form of transportation. I

618
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: would say, it's up there, Yeah, it's up there, all right.

619
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Speaker 1: Next email, Okay, this is from Kate.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be cute, but after I turned

621
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Speaker 2: twenty three this year, I was hit with the passage

622
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: of time slash fear of aging and dying slash dread slay.

623
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: Suddenly I can't enjoy anything without thinking about how it

624
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: will end one day, slash picturing my own funeral, the

625
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: sun exploding, et cetera. How do you cope with the

626
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: passage of time? Love the pod?

627
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Great question?

628
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: Great question, this is how do you deal with the

629
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: passive time? I have no idea.

630
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Speaker 1: It's interesting. I mean, I am maybe this is just

631
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: being naive and like it'll all suddenly hit me at

632
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: some point in like eight years, and then I will

633
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: be dreading aging and dying constantly. I think right now,

634
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Speaker 1: I almost think I'm not dreading any of that because

635
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: I act I am not even mindful enough to think

636
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: in a big picture way, if that makes sense, you

637
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I like, it's like I'm not

638
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: dreading death, and I'm not dreading aging because I'm like,

639
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: because I'm like about to miss a deadline. You if

640
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: I can't, I'm so in the moment.

641
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have an interesting relationship with time, like you,

642
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: And I mean that in one the shady way of

643
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: like you, deadlines are complicated for you. You like don't

644
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: see much. I feel like you're like always kind of like,

645
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: oh this is due tomorrow, Oh fuck.

646
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Yes, And then another I don't necessarily miss them, you don't,

647
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: just I will do it like last minute.

648
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the other thing is that you always think

649
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: of yourself as older than you are and want to

650
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: see yourself as older than you are, which I find

651
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: interesting and different than how I see myself. Like I

652
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: feel like I noticed you, like when we were in

653
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: inhabtance somebody we were talking about like our ages and

654
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: you like round it up, and I was like, that's interesting.

655
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: And I know that your birthday is like around the corner,

656
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: but so is mine, and I'm like, no, you wouldn't

657
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: I always say what I am? And I found it.

658
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's kind of an interesting difference.

659
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we I mean, we've talked before about

660
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: how you were. You feel like you were exactly where

661
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: you were meant to be when you were in your twenties,

662
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Like you were like I was born to be in

663
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: my twenties. I was born to be twenty six years old.

664
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: And I do think with me there was a bit

665
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: of a maybe a hurry to be an adult. And

666
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: then also I even looking back, I'm like, there's a

667
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: there's definitely a youth is wasted on the young narrative

668
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: about my twenties, not in always, I mean I had

669
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: I had fun, I went to Coachella. I went to

670
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Coachella multiple times. By the way, you know, I dated,

671
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: Like it's not like I was like, oh god, I'm

672
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: staying at home and I'm not going out or anything.

673
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. It was slightly more difficult probably for

674
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: me to reach that state of like care free, youthful energy. Yea.

675
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: Although then it's like you were also, as we've said,

676
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: like a good kid, where it's like you were afraid

677
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: of drugs. You were like not you didn't come out

678
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: until I think later than I did. Like maybe what

679
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: you liked about your twenties is that it was like

680
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: it meant that you're that period of self discovery was

681
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: over and you knew who you were.

682
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: That's possible. Yeah, I think I'm in the same way that,

683
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: Like it's helpful when you move to a new city

684
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: to like find the narrative of the city, like where

685
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: you can be like why does this matter? What is

686
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: like the what is it like to be a Philly girl?

687
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: What is it like to be like an Austin guy?

688
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: And like I'm trying to figure out, like what is

689
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: the fantasy of like a thirty something gay guy in

690
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: New York and I'm starting to find it, but it

691
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: it took a second where I was like, I didn't

692
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: realize I would kind of have to change my narrative.

693
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah I am, and I'm kind of having fun with

694
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: it now. But it's a it's a growing process.

695
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: I feel like when you, guys, I think you had

696
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: a breakthrough when you decided to decorate your apartment. Yeah

697
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: it yeah, I mean, next up wine?

698
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, well you gotta take that class. I

699
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: gotta take a damn class. Like this tastes like it

700
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: does not bring me joy to taste wine and honey.

701
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: But I want to hold the glass and I want

702
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: to be like, oh I'll have the reasoning or whatever.

703
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: Or I want to be like a reasoning.

704
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, too sweet, too sweetweet, don't get the

705
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: rasling get a grooner. So I yeah, I think to

706
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: be honest at this stage, I mean, this feels like

707
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: really inviting the evil eye to be like, I don't

708
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: worry about death. I don't. I don't have any existential dread,

709
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: but at this point in my life, I don't. I

710
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: almost feel like it Maybe it actually makes more sense

711
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: that you're having that at twenty three, because it does

712
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: feel like the beginning of something, whereas I firmly like

713
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: when I look at my life, I'm like I am

714
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of something. Like I think my early

715
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: sort of career is in the past, but I think

716
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: my peak isn't hopefully in the future, you know what

717
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I feel like very much on a

718
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: boat going sort of sailing into the ocean. But I

719
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: do understand at twenty three feeling like a sense of

720
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: panic because it's it feels like a big like a beginning.

721
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beginning, and it's a vast little sea

722
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: you're looking out at. But but guess.

723
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: What as you go, you're gonna as you're looking out

724
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: of that vast sea. It seems stressful now, but like

725
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: the longer you live, the more you're gonna learn how

726
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: to do the sails on the sailboat, the more you're

727
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: gonna learn how to cook within the confines of the

728
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: small kitchen and the basement of the boat. You're gonna

729
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: make some stops and meet people and maybe they'll come

730
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: on the boat. You are going to deal with, honestly,

731
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: some rough weather, but you're going to persevere and you're

732
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: going to be able to go through it and then

733
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: watch a beautiful rainbow form as the sun is setting. Yeah.

734
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's actually possible. We'll see, We'll see.

735
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: You'll never know unless you keep sailing for Yeah.

736
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: Well, my last riff for this question is, Honey, call

737
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: me Richard link later because I'm obsessed with time passing.

738
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: All right, next question question, Oh, this is good. Okay.

739
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: This is from Kaya and she says happy Ernest is

740
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: Bananza Day. Thank you Kaya, on this special day. I'd

741
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: love to hear more about Sam's cooking journey. Have you

742
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: learned and in your recipes in the past few months?

743
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: Are you any more comfortable in the kitchen? And then

744
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: as for George, have you always been into cooking? Did

745
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: you learn growing up or was it a skill you

746
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: acquired as an adult? Okay, Sam, go first.

747
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to be honest with all the listeners.

748
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: I have completely fallen off. I have fallen off hard

749
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: and in a bad way. I'm scared of it again.

750
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: I was like doing it pretty regularly, and then now

751
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if I could do it.

752
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: I am starting to have a different perspective towards cooking,

753
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 2: which is good. Where like like, actually, okay, this is embarrassing,

754
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: but I watched I watched Ratitui this week for like

755
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: the first time of my life, and I was like,

756
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: oh my god, like rataituey honestly combined with like going

757
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: to the Hamptons with you, George, and you like tasting,

758
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: You like dipping your finger into the cocktail sauce and

759
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: tasting it and being like, what does this need? And

760
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, you can actually like

761
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 2: taste what something could need. Like I think I've always

762
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: thought of food very practically and also like flavor as

763
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: like a given, where it's like it's almost like science y,

764
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: like did you do the formula correct? And it's either

765
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: like a yes or no. And I think I'm starting

766
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: to see more that it's like about taste and paying

767
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: attention and listening, but that while that may give me

768
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: more fun to play with it, the general skills still

769
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: stress me out, like literally chopping right.

770
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean you also can't have fun from the start,

771
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: like you do have to learn. As with anything, you know,

772
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: you have to get through the hump. I mean, this

773
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: is how I feel about not that I'm so amazing

774
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: at this, but this is the first time in my

775
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: life that I'm exercising regularly and so off. Like so

776
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: many times throughout my life I have attempted it, and

777
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: then in the first three weeks I'm like, I can't

778
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: do this, Like I feel either insecure or I'm not

779
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: good at it, or I don't want to go to

780
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: the gym, or I you know, miss one day. And

781
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, whatever, Like what's the point. You

782
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: really just have to get through that hump and learn

783
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: a few basic things and feel a sense of accomplishment.

784
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

785
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: The nice thing about cooking is that there is some

786
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: instant gratification because if you make something, you can eat

787
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: it for dinner that night, and you're like, Okay, well

788
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: I made this.

789
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: That's true. I'm always so disheartened by how long it

790
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: takes totally well.

791
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: I will also say this. You know, we were away

792
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: together for a weekend with our significant others and our

793
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: other friends John and Bennett and Nishe actually cooked a

794
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: couple of things during that weekend, and I was struck

795
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: not only by how obviously good he was, which I

796
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: knew that he would be good at cooking, but also

797
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: just how relaxed and non neurotic he was about it. Yeah,

798
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: and I sort of see why you throughout the years

799
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: have fallen into the role of not cooking. It's very

800
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: lazy too. He just it's so clear that he enjoys

801
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: it and that it doesn't cause some stress. Like Matthew

802
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: and I both cook, and we probably do fifty to fifty,

803
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: but both of us are you know, it's common that

804
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: we'll be like, oh, this is going to turn out terrible.

805
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh this is like here it is, but don't but

806
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: careful it doesn't have enough salt like here it is,

807
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: but this but like we're both very neurotic in the

808
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: kitchen and to have a sort of calming presence like

809
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: that is very nice.

810
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's he also, Yeah, he like wants to help.

811
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: And I think I almost need to like be alone

812
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: when I do it, Like I need to be like

813
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: just like maybe he's like in the other room where

814
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: I can ask him questions, but like I kind of

815
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: need to be able to make mistakes without being seen.

816
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: But now do you do your question?

817
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh my? You know, as I as I just said,

818
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: I really do enjoy cooking and it I find it

819
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: rewarding and relaxing. But I am not some incredible cook

820
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: like I have my go to recipes. I occasionally will

821
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: try a new one. I my sister and I have

822
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: been attempting to make some of my grandmother's Greek recipes

823
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: because we want to sort of keep them alive. Like

824
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: there's some stuff that's fun, but I'm not someone who

825
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: is you know, opens a fridge and sees live ingredients

826
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: and whips something up and it's perfect. I will say

827
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: I did not grow up cooking. I feel like it's

828
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: a very Greek thing. And I'm sure this is the

829
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: case in other cultures too, that like grandmothers and mothers

830
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: are sort of like, well, it's actually, let me rephrase this.

831
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: My mom was not like this. But like what I

832
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: was gonna say is that the Greek mother is very

833
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: much like you, sit back, I'll do the cooking. My

834
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: mother was actually not like that. My mom is very

835
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: sort of liberated. But however, there isn't that impulse to

836
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: give your children like chores, to make your kids help

837
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: with like washing the dishes, like and it is completely

838
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: in my experience at least, it's irrelevant to like class

839
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: or background or anything. It's just like the parents are

840
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: the ones who do the home stuff and the kids

841
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: have to do their homework like that. That's how it

842
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: was with my cousins, how that's how it was with

843
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: my friends. Like I knew very few people in high

844
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: school that were like passionate about cooking. I learned how

845
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: to cook when in college I lived in a co op,

846
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: which is what we call the houses that were sort

847
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: of like on the row along with the fraternity houses,

848
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: but didn't have like a cook or something, so you

849
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: would like cook. You would have a cooking shift where

850
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: like twice a quarter it would be your turn along

851
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: with someone else to cook for the entire house. And

852
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: it was a house of like thirty five people. So

853
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: and I lived in those houses for three years in

854
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: a row, so I sort of like had to step

855
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: it up otherwise literally thirty five people wouldn't eat. And

856
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: so that was my crash course in cooking, which, by

857
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: the way, cooking for a large group of people is

858
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: actually very different skilled than cooking for one or two people.

859
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: So then afterwards, when I finished college and moved in

860
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: with roommates and stuff, I had to sort of get

861
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: used to smaller portions. But that is where I like

862
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: started really enjoying the process of cooking.

863
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

864
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: So this is from Emily, who says formerly of Shitthole,

865
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: Utah and now of Vermont. Ooh, congrats on the move, girly.

866
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: So Emily says, I have two different questions. Okay, So first,

867
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: what is your relationship towards having so much recorded material

868
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: of your own voices? Do you anticipate going back and

869
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: listening in later years like rereading a diary. Do you

870
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: consider the podcast just to be a piece of crafted

871
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: media or something more personal, kind of functioning as an

872
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: archive of your last few years. If you have gone back,

873
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: what has hearing your voices literal and metaphorical from a

874
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: few years ago felt like?

875
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: Wow?

876
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: So let's do that one first.

877
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't think of it as necessarily a diary. I

878
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: am really glad that we have the recordings during the

879
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: pandemic because I it was just like such a weird time,

880
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: and I think inherently going back and listening to them

881
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 2: will be like, we'll put me back into that space

882
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: and it will be so interesting as a document. And

883
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: I love I went through a real journaling thing. I

884
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: used to be very militant about it and now I'm not.

885
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: But I have this podcast and I'm grateful for that.

886
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: I sometimes they get anxious about it, where I'm like,

887
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: you know, we talk for hours and it's like some

888
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: of the humor won't hold up, like who fucking knows,

889
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: and uh, I'm like we're probably like mean to somebody

890
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: or like, and so I'm like, well, I hope whatever,

891
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: I hope it just never comes up. And I kind

892
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: of just feign ignorance at the fact that we have

893
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: hours and hours of material.

894
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the nature of humor is that, honestly,

895
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: it rarely ages. Well. I don't even mean that in

896
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: the sense that it's like problematic. I just mean like

897
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: something is funny, then everyone starts doing it, and then

898
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: it becomes boring and hack and then you move on.

899
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many It used to be

900
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: truly the most fresh thing to say I identify as

901
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: something something funny, like I identify as you know, a

902
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: homebody or whatever. Like, and now if someone says that,

903
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, are you okay? Do you

904
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: need to be hospitalized for not having a good sense

905
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: of humor? Yeah?

906
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean I had like a script of like at

907
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: this point, like seven years ago, where it was like

908
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: where there was like an iced like it was like

909
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: absurd on purpose, but it was like, you know, a

910
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 2: gay guy iced coffee joke, and it's like that, like Tota,

911
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: it's just like so deeply unfunny.

912
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: Now, so much of my I feel like I have

913
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: so much material that essentially boils down to like, isn't

914
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: it sinister that everything is corporatized? Or that, Like there

915
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: are ads on Instagram and it's like that ship has said,

916
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: but it is difficult to remember that just a few

917
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: years ago, the idea of I don't know, a sponsored

918
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: post or influencer was extremely new and very dark, and

919
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: this new thing we all had to sort of grapple with, yeah.

920
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, so.

921
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I also think there are

922
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: honestly some sort of obvious things, like the fact that

923
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: I feel like we say we use the word gay

924
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: rather than saying queer, and I'm not even saying that

925
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's a politically incorrect or politically correct thing.

926
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: I think we do it as a catch all and

927
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: as a sort of almost like as a joke. Yeah,

928
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: but who knows how language will evolve and how that

929
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: will sound in a few years, Like I don't.

930
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: Know right, probably really smart, will probably sound perfect.

931
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't do you ever. I literally have never listened

932
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: to an old episode. The only time I ever did

933
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: was when we re released Patty's episode, because we had

934
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: like a week where we released an old episode and

935
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: so I listened to it to sort of check if

936
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: there was anything we wanted to take out, and there wasn't.

937
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: One time I re listened to the Io episode, why

938
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: just because I was like, what was like? I remember

939
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: having so much fun on that zoom and being like,

940
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: what was that? And then I relistened, and I mean,

941
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 2: it's so chaotic, it's incredible. But I I was both like, yeah,

942
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: I was like happy with how funny it was, but

943
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: also I was like, oh, we're still that funny. Like

944
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: part of me also had it on this pedestal where

945
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: I was like, we were never that funny again, and

946
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, we're that funny a lot.

947
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's good to hear. I mean, that's a

948
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: good example of like that episode. I mean the entire

949
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: so much of what is unsaid in that episode is

950
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: that it was recorded during the summer of twenty twenty,

951
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: and we are all attempting in a humorous way to

952
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: talk around the fact that there were like racial justice

953
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: protests happening around us. Yeah, and like, if you don't

954
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: have that context, I'm sure it could sound weird or

955
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: it could sound random that we decided to talk about

956
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: whiteness or whatever. And I think it's the same for

957
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know literally anything, because anything that's tied to

958
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: a current event, I guess. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I

959
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: agree with you that I'm glad. I'm glad we have

960
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: so much report material. I'm not ready to relisten to

961
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: it anytime soon, but I I'm glad it's there.

962
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

963
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh, the second question is actually sort of fun.

964
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: Okay. Second, I'm so interested in how our speech is

965
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: affected by time spent with friends. Are there any vocal

966
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: tics you think you've picked up on from each other?

967
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: As a listener, I can say I associate one hundred

968
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: percent with George and have noticed now notice Sam using

969
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: it a bunch as well. Overall, how much is making

970
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: the pod made you aware of your own speech patterns?

971
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: I definitely have picked up on many of your speech patterns,

972
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure, and.

973
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: I have for you as well.

974
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't try not to note I try not to

975
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: note it. Down because it's like it's just inevitably gonna happen.

976
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, to be honest, my biggest fear is

977
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: that there is something that I have done that with

978
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: and you have noticed, but you don't want to tell

979
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: me because it will be awkward like that. That is

980
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: sometimes I do think that where I'm like, is there

981
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: some thing that I have started saying or some I

982
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: don't know, turn a phrase or something not that Sam

983
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: has noticed and he's like.

984
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: Wow, not that I've noticed, all right. I mean I

985
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: feel like I've picked up like I feel like you

986
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: were doing like saying mama before me, like after everything,

987
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: and I really now I say mama all the time.

988
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. It's like, yes, I think

989
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: we definitely pick up on each other's on each other's ticks,

990
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: and I think so far, I imagine that it is

991
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty and that it's like you pick up

992
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: as many of mine as I pick up of yours.

993
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: You know it's going to happen. I think like I

994
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: also sort of think it has affected our comment maybe

995
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: a little bit, like I feel like I am potentially

996
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: more a little more irreverend then I used to be

997
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: in stand up and you are a little you know,

998
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: have a little more of like a.

999
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I know, I'm a little more

1000
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: like talking about some not something quote like real like

1001
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: heavy real, but like a little more like discussing something

1002
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: that actually is like annoying.

1003
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: Like you know, you have a joke that was I

1004
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: can't remember what it is, but and I don't think

1005
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: you do it in club comic. But it's like a

1006
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: joke where you're like, if I wanted to be smart,

1007
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: I would be smart. I don't but but I'm not smart, right,

1008
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: Like if it's like I am smart enough to do

1009
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: this in a smart way, but I'm just choosing not

1010
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: to or something you did that at some show at

1011
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: Union Hall or something, and I was like, that's a

1012
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: very like straighter lab joke.

1013
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what I did anyway. All right, next question,

1014
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: Next question. Okay, this is from Jas Greetings from Milwaukee.

1015
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: I have a potentially gross and potentially embarrassing question for

1016
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: this and this is so funny. Yes, the theory I

1017
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: have literally okay, scientist vibes. Literally every gay guy I

1018
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: know in my social circle has confessed to being a

1019
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: bedwetter as a kid. Obviously gay's love. Childhood trauma and

1020
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: peeing the bed can be very traumatic, and maybe that's

1021
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: why piss kinks are so common in the community. Who's

1022
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: to say so, I'm wondering if this is true of

1023
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: you two as well. Did either or both of you

1024
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: wet the bed as kids? Not chronically, Sweetie, Sorry to

1025
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: throw it under the bus.

1026
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean neither. I gotta say very occasional. I don't

1027
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: want to brag, but it happened very few times.

1028
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm incredible at waking up to go peep and

1029
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: always have been. So tell that to the press.

1030
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell that to the glad Awards.

1031
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: Alright, to me, move on.

1032
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Shannon. Oh okay, every fourth of July,

1033
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm haunted by the same dilemma. I hate patriotism, but

1034
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: I love a theme. What is your advice for glamour

1035
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: girls trying to celebrate the fourth in a country dishonoring way, perfect.

1036
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: Question, beautiful question. This is so genius to me.

1037
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, okay, you have this thing called the

1038
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: American flag. Okay, and it's a it's a reference and

1039
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: what it's referenced or sorry, it's a signifier and what

1040
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: it is signifying is patriotism, America, the fifty States, whatever.

1041
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: Anytime you are reappropriating that, you are taking its power

1042
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: away from it.

1043
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: I think there is something to like it's almost like

1044
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: gay country music, where it's like, yes, like this is

1045
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: we're like playing with it, We're making it our own,

1046
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: and we're like having fun with it. I don't I agree,

1047
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: like I would never be like more military, but it

1048
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 2: is like there is the esthetic of Fourth of July

1049
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: for some reason. It is so fun for like a

1050
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: day and not like I don't even like want like

1051
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: ironic like America vibes, but like I do want like

1052
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: a barbecue and like almost like fifties vibe or something like.

1053
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to feel like you're regressing. You want

1054
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: to feel like you're in mad Men and the women

1055
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: are all getting paid less than the men.

1056
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I don't know. I'm not sure if that

1057
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: makes sense, but it's a it's a tough balance. I guess.

1058
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: Well, it's you are just simply uh separating it from

1059
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: its source material, like yeah, it is a costume, Yeah

1060
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: it's dragon. I'm sort of I gotta say, like I

1061
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to get too serious, but I'm like,

1062
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: sometimes when there are these deep conversations about the meaning

1063
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: of things with a problematic history, I'm like, it is

1064
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: actually so easy for me to be like, unless I

1065
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: am directly funding something that is immoral, I'm like, it

1066
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: is so easy for me to be like, this is

1067
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: a costume. It has a complicated history, but I'm like,

1068
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna do it, and let's focus on the things that

1069
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: are currently at the table.

1070
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like a weird, like a very

1071
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: heightened sort of conceptual argument. And it's like, how about It's.

1072
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: Like Cam, It's like, oh yeah, if I'm worrying Cam,

1073
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm not spurning the military next question. Like, I know

1074
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: part of me is like, oh, well, it's complicated, it's

1075
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: not right, right, right, right, right, totally That's how I

1076
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: feel about And also, by the way, like I know,

1077
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about how there are very few

1078
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: and non capitalist ways to congregate. I think a barbecue

1079
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: is actually one of the few we have left. So

1080
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: appreciate that and take that away from any kind of

1081
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: patriotic context, just be like, this is a way for

1082
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: us to congregate in a non religious, non you know,

1083
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: capitalist way.

1084
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: This is genius and Actually, I'm like, there needs to

1085
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: be more pride barbecues.

1086
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: Actually, that's a good point.

1087
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm so tired of pride being like seventy dollars tickets

1088
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: to some fucking thing that's annoying. More pride barbecues. I

1089
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: want small gatherings with friends.

1090
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Agreed a great and by the way, you know, if

1091
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna it's like, if we celebrate Thanksgiving, then we

1092
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: gotta celebrate the Fourth. I mean, Thanksgiving is all bad.

1093
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 1: It's like literally celebrating colonialism. At least with the Fourth

1094
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: You're like, well, America has some good qualities, like Katie

1095
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: Perry is from there.

1096
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the weather's awesome sometimes.

1097
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, podcasting, all right, next.

1098
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: Question, this is from Stephen. I need your advice. I'm

1099
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: hopelessly attracted to a strait who maybe gives off closeted vibes.

1100
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: We're not close, but he has me and his close

1101
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: friends on Instagram, so my broken brain believes there could

1102
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: be a chance. How can I tell him he can

1103
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: get it in any damn way, any dan time, any

1104
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: damn day of the week, in a polite way, at

1105
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: least him feeling good about the interaction, even if he's

1106
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: not into it. I'm not a guy who oohs this

1107
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: cirtacious sexy energy, so I'm worried I will come off

1108
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: as a creep. Thank you, love you, Steven. Ummm, this

1109
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: is a tough one.

1110
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: I will say the close friends thing in order for

1111
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: me to assess whether that is an important piece of information.

1112
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: I used to know what he posts on close friends

1113
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: because straight people's close friends is like a completely different

1114
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: beast than gay people's close friends. And the fact that

1115
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: you are in a straight person's close friends quite literally

1116
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: means they consider you a friend. However, if he is

1117
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: posting sort of sexy picks on close friends, that's a

1118
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: different story. Yeah, along those lines, I think an easy

1119
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: way to maybe take a first step towards figuring this

1120
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: out is in fact, weaponizing your own close friends, adding

1121
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: him to close friends and posting a suggestive photograph and

1122
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: if you're not comfortable with that, a normal photograph with

1123
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: a suggestive caption. Hmmm.

1124
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: I think that's really smart. And you could even do

1125
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like like consent check,

1126
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: like do you want to see this? Like yeah, and

1127
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: if he clicks no, then you kind of got an

1128
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: answer and even if he clicks nothing, he at least

1129
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: saw it as an option and maybe he was too

1130
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: scared to click yes.

1131
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: But so yeah, Also, you know, I was okay, so

1132
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: you say we're not close, but he has me and

1133
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: his close friends on Instagram. I mean, I guess what

1134
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with this is I want to I need

1135
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: more details to sort of be able to assess you

1136
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, we're not close. What

1137
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: does that mean? Are you coworkers? Is he a you know,

1138
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: friend of a friend. Did you meet once?

1139
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Also, how and that also goes with like how

1140
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: well do you know that he is straight?

1141
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: Like right? Totally like are you that close?

1142
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: Like maybe he's by or something, and you could just

1143
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: sort of if you're not that close, I don't know

1144
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: how close you are, you could just ask him out

1145
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: sort of. I was about to say, like like a

1146
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: normal person and be like, would you want to get

1147
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: a drink sometime? I think you're cute or whatever, and

1148
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: then he can just say, oh, sorry, I don't see

1149
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: you that way.

1150
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: But totally, well, oh, okay, interesting, you think he should

1151
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: say I think you're cute. I was thinking he should

1152
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: ask in a sort of vague way that could be

1153
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: perceived as either platonic or romantic. Just be like, want

1154
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: to get a drink and then you know, one of

1155
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: the best ways to figure out if someone is LGBTQ

1156
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: is getting to know them. And I think that by

1157
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: asking a series of questions and seeing what this person's

1158
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: tastes are, what this person's political opinions are, what this

1159
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: person's romantic history is, you can answer a lot of

1160
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: these questions.

1161
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a series of rapid fire questions to gauge

1162
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: their familiarity with him.

1163
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: Do straight shooters with him and then make him do

1164
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: a shout out, and then based on that you can

1165
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: see if he is straight or not. Yeah, and rate

1166
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: him on a scale of one to one thousand doves exactly.

1167
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: And by the way, guess what the worst that could happen?

1168
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: You get a new friend, Yeah, even if he's not

1169
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: even if he's not gay. But I gotta say, I'm

1170
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: sort of into this. Yeah, and I hope you guys

1171
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: hook up. Go off legend, I say, all right, Next question.

1172
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: Next question.

1173
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: This one is from Emily, and Emily asks what is

1174
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: your favorite plant and or flower? I love this same.

1175
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: I have no idea what My answer is, but I

1176
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: do love this as a question.

1177
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: I hm, I'm speaking curly in terms of visual symbolism,

1178
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: But the idea of a cactus is so powerful.

1179
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: To me though, Like, uh, what's the like like the

1180
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: palm fronds that you have in your house, like the

1181
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: palm like the inside palm. I'm like, that to me

1182
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: is such luxury. Yeah, and implies like I can do anything.

1183
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, a palm tree also, I know that's a little different,

1184
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: but a palm tree, I mean that's iconic.

1185
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: That's iconic basically.

1186
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm I think you know, plants are disproportionately used in iconography.

1187
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: Can we agree on that? Uh, Like, think of all

1188
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: the different objects that exist in the world, so many

1189
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: plants are iconic.

1190
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: Well, the palm tree is our vacation, just something it's disproportioned.

1191
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: I think they're just too beautiful to ignore totally.

1192
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think this is a very this

1193
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: is a very like entry level answer. It's like discovers

1194
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: flowers ones. But the idea of a beautiful orchid is

1195
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: also very appealing to me.

1196
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: You know, honestly, an orchid has never spoken to me.

1197
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

1198
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, you know, what.

1199
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: Have you seen an adaptation. No, well you have to see adoptation.

1200
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: It's all about orchids and Meryl Street, isn't it.

1201
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to think about the iconic flowers and

1202
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: plants even you know it's iconic, but in sort of

1203
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 2: a nineties throw back way.

1204
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: Sunflowers, Oh my god, I love a sunflower. By the way,

1205
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, my least plant is in terms of icnography,

1206
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: the weed leaf. Oh yeah, just like the worst. It's like,

1207
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: we need to retire it. We need to find like

1208
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: a different thing. I mean, obviously, the aesthetics of weedsmoking

1209
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: in general are horrid and why tired.

1210
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: They were adults, we can It's just it's.

1211
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: Because they're created by stoned people.

1212
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: You come out really hard anti weed, you know what

1213
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean.

1214
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also love just a robust tree, like a

1215
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: giant a giant olive.

1216
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: Tree, you know what I love? Also, like a field

1217
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: of like ferns, like where you're like, oh, I'm in

1218
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: the like I'm in a forest. I I'm the thing

1219
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: is I'm all in on plants these days. I'm like

1220
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: truly one of the best things to do is to

1221
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: like just go to the botanical garden and you can

1222
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: just it's like better than a zoo because you're like,

1223
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: this field doesn't feel fucking evil in the same way.

1224
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: No, if anything, are helped the plants grow. Yeah, you're

1225
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: giving them other than torturing them all day long.

1226
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1227
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: Hello. In terms of flowers, I want to say, and

1228
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: these are like very basic flowers. But my grandfather had

1229
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: this property in Greece that I would always because of

1230
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: like my schedule, I would always go to only in

1231
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: the summers when it was like super dry and there

1232
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: was no there were no plants. And one time I

1233
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: went in the spring and it was filled with poppies

1234
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: and dandelions. It was like a sea of yellow and

1235
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 1: red and it was so beautiful, and I like that

1236
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: image just really stuck with me of just a sea

1237
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: of poppies and dandelions. And I know, you know, pippies

1238
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: and anolions. I think, you know, it's very easier to

1239
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: grow them. It's not They're no orchids. However, the however,

1240
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: I do have a real affection for them because they

1241
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: remind me of.

1242
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: That another I love that answer, and also vines growing

1243
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: up a brick wall.

1244
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean, is it is a narrative of persevere it

1245
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: is a feminist narrative, and it is a narrative of

1246
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: repurposing found materials.

1247
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: Goddamn plants. I love you guys. All right, Sorry we

1248
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: don't have more complicated plants. I don't know why I

1249
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: keep apologizing, but.

1250
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: No, we don't have to apologize. I mean, I do

1251
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: think people can be very into plants, and so when

1252
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: you express an opinion, it's like, oh god, our poppy

1253
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: is you know, the problematic one.

1254
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I think what is funny that A

1255
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 2: funny thing that we both did is just sort of

1256
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: trying to think of what what plants transport us somewhere.

1257
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: We really took plants as like which ones are genuinely iconic,

1258
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: like which ones imply a space?

1259
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: By the way, fictional plant, my favorite mother Willow.

1260
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: Fictional plant my favorite the tree in Avatar one ooh yes.

1261
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: Love her, and also the big plant in Little Choppa Horrors. Okay,

1262
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: next question, your next question? Oh interesting, Oh I like

1263
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: this one?

1264
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: Sure, in like it?

1265
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I like this one. Okay you can read.

1266
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 2: Okay, this is from John uh. First of all, happy

1267
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: one year on iHeart. And then a little joke that's funny.

1268
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: How do you think fame has changed you, not to

1269
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: get all performance reviewing, but do each of you feel

1270
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: you approach it differently in the past year. Do you

1271
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: feel like you have to be more particularly on knowing

1272
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: Alison Roman is going to be in the room? I asked,

1273
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: because it really feels like you've been able to keep

1274
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: the unique energy of the pot and I'm excited to

1275
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: see where y'all go from here. Pelly, A beautiful question.

1276
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: Beautiful question, and fame is generous, Sweetie.

1277
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I yeah, it's funny because it's funny because it's like, yeah,

1278
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: people who listen are like, Wow, isn't it crazy that

1279
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: you are, that you are famous. It's like, no, no, no,

1280
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: you just chose to press play, so you just happen

1281
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: to know.

1282
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: Who we are. I get nervous when we do, like

1283
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: an Alison Roman episode, someone big like that and like

1284
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: also someone like a little less in the comedy space.

1285
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: And I actually think that is where our duo dumb

1286
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 2: comes in even stronger, because I feel in that episode

1287
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: in particular, I know this isn't necessarily the question, but

1288
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 2: I felt so taken care of by George over here

1289
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: because you were like doing all like actually talking about

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Speaker 2: cooking and like sort of giving her stuff that she

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: could riff on, and I was like, ugh, this, I

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: was sort of like, let's just I'm sometimes I'm too improvisational.

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01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm sort of like, let's just see what happens. And

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Speaker 2: it's like, nah, you can't always do that. Like sometimes

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01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: it's nice to like be researched and like come in

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01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: with something prepared. And so I found I felt like

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Speaker 2: that was almost like a learning experience for me, where

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: I was like, right, like, you can't always just plan

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Speaker 2: on riffing and a little homework goes a long way.

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Speaker 1: I mean to be well, first of all, I thought

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Speaker 1: you were excellent in that episode, and second of all,

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: I thought Allison was like better at improving than many

1303
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: of the comedian guests we have asked. Ye she really,

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: I think she came and slayed. It was truly an

1305
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: incredible performance unlike any I have seen in the podcasting arts,

1306
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: and if anything, it made me so it made me

1307
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: really wish there were more people like that, Like more

1308
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: people that are not comedians are in a different world,

1309
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: are not even because it's you know, she's not even

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01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: like an actor or a I don't know, a performer

1311
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: It's like she is in a different world, but she

1312
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: also just happens to have a sense of humor that

1313
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: overlaps with her own. She is able to like step

1314
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: up and be funny and whatever. And in terms of fame,

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01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: I gotta say I very much, I very much appreciate

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01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: the way this is worded, and I appreciate that you

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: think we are famous. I have not. I think like

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Speaker 1: our numbers have increased since, you know, in the last year,

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01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: but I don't. In no way do I feel famous

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01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: or do I feel like I am. I have anything

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Speaker 1: to quote unquote handle differently, and in fact, I'm very

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: grateful for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I even think it was sort of conscious to

1324
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: not change our sensibility, like to try to like you know,

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01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: get different guests, get different like ways of putting ourselves

1326
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 2: out there, get more opportunities, but not but like keep

1327
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 2: the sensibility the same. And I feel that we have

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: been successful in that. And if anything, I think these

1329
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: last two episodes of Amy and Macy really showed that

1330
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 2: that felt like I was back in the pandemic being

1331
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: insane absolute heaven.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think I like that we are not actively

1333
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: booking people that are promoting a project all the time.

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: But I gotta say, like, like I like, you know,

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: in my ideal world, it would be like one every

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Speaker 1: five guests is like that it is someone who's like

1337
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: actually going on a media term promoting something and is

1338
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: funny and like, listen, if we get Jennifer Lawrence, I'm

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01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: down totally.

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Speaker 2: I know, I think that's a good goal, and I

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not. I think in our earlier years we

1342
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: were more like a little more middle finger to everything,

1343
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: and now it's like, well, we do want to grow,

1344
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: we do want to like it's like we are funny.

1345
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: We know that we can be funny, but it's to

1346
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: push it forward would be to have bigger guests and

1347
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 2: that are less like in the comedy space that we

1348
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 2: can still be funny with.

1349
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Speaker 1: And I think, honestly, the people I'm most nervous about

1350
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: would be people that, like I I really look up to,

1351
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: but I don't know if they would immediately jump in

1352
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 1: and like get the tone or something like I'm like,

1353
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: my biggest nightmare is like we get John Waters and

1354
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: then he like doesn't gel with us. Like I'm way

1355
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: more afraid of that than I am of like having

1356
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 1: a random person promoting a book and then having a

1357
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: sort of like dull conversation.

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough.

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01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So this next question is actually interesting, there is.

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01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: There are two emails. One was sent June sixteenth, and

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: it says twenty twenty two. Oh whoa, I didn't even

1362
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: see that.

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, see that's crazy too.

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: Okay, So all right, wow, okay, this is crazily enough

1365
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: from someone named George, and it was sent in June sixteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. George says, all right, I like the

1367
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: subversive strategy of the show, you know what. Hold on,

1368
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip all the compliments, even though we greatly

1369
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: appreciate them. All right, So this is the question. Imagine

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01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: you're producing Gaydio Lab. Who are the straight hosts you

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01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: would choose to explore queer culture?

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Speaker 2: Did we not answer this in June sixteenth, twenty twenty two?

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: Oh is this where the This isn't where the idea

1374
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: of Gatao Lab came from. It We would riff about

1375
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: it in the early epps. Oh so this is referencing something. Okay,

1376
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: all right, Well, the point is George then emailed us

1377
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: again this Tuesday saying, just listen to the Macy episode

1378
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: and wow, no credit for my brilliant idea Gadio Lab

1379
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: and to release the episode on the very last day

1380
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: we can write into the upcoming Earness's bonanza. No less

1381
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: you will be hearing from my lawyers. Also, I was

1382
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: promised a Nobel Peace Prize in the mail when my

1383
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: previous comment was read on air. Oh yeah, you know what. Unfortunately,

1384
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: we are gonna have to do some research to figure

1385
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: out what our answer to this question was last time,

1386
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: because I do not remember.

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01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: I believe that I think I might have said, and

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01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: this could be wrong. I'm just trying to think about

1389
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: what I would have said, and I actually think I

1390
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 2: might have said Jeremy Levick and Rajat sareesh.

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01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: Oh, who are the straight hosts you would choose to

1392
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: expork your culture? Yeah? I love that. I would add

1393
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: to that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. I will say,

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01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: as far as I remember, Gatio Lab is something we

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01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: first thought of ourselves.

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01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: But if not, truly, we will literally turn ourselves into

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01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: the police. Yeah, and I say that publicly.

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01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we believe that the police should be abolished.

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Speaker 2: Accept in cases such as this.

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01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: Accept in cases of plagiarism podcast specific plagiarism. All right,

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: let's do Bruno. Do you want to sure this is

1403
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: from Bruno?

1404
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: To get straight to the point. Are we gonna do

1405
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: all of them? I had to say I sort of.

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: Love all of them.

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01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: We'll try to rapid fire them. Okay, yeah, okay, Bruno says,

1408
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: to get straight to the point. If Christmas as Santa

1409
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 2: Easter has the Eastern Bundy and Pride has Zippy the

1410
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: gender queer zip bloc bag, what is the mascot of

1411
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: Earnest's bonanza?

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01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I want to say two things. First of all,

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01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: there are four questions in this email and they are

1414
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: all a plus. Second of all, this person is based

1415
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, and they better come to our live show,

1416
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: which is one of the ones that's not selling. Well,

1417
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: all right, If Christmas has the Easter Buddy and Pride

1418
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: has Zippy the gender queer ziplock bag, what is the

1419
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: mascot of Ernest's bonanza? I think the mascot of Ernest's

1420
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: bonanza is like lin Manuel Miranda.

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. I was gonna say, mister Rogers.

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01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: Great. Okay. Second question, thoughts on nihilism as a viable

1423
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: life philosophy.

1424
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: This one's tough, isay, you can't. I say, you can

1425
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 2: have moments of it, but come on, Yeah, it's the

1426
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: easy way out, I will say.

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: I think that, I would say one of the biggest

1428
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: arcs for me personally from my twenties to my thirties

1429
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: is slowly and surely rejecting nihilism. I feel like I

1430
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: was very prone to it in my twenties. Yeah, and

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01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: I think that you just.

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01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: I what a waste basically, and what a waste? Okay, background,

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 2: I finally got my PhD after ten years of higher education,

1434
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 2: only to realize it will be years until I have

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: a real faculty job and can have a lifestyle and

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01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 2: envision for myself. It seems like comedy and other creative

1437
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: fields have a similar shit to more shit to maybe

1438
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: get their journey. How do you keep yourselves from giving up?

1439
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: When should I give up on academia and open a

1440
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: plant shop slash bakery? Wow? Genius question.

1441
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: God, I would love to actually inhabit a world where

1442
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: it where it was easy to open a plant shop

1443
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: slash bakery and have that be state totally because where

1444
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: we live those close every day and all of those

1445
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: people then are in debt, and also not just that

1446
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: there's suddenly like a grub Street article about them about

1447
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: how they're toxic girl bosses. Well you also and it's like,

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01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 1: well they were running a bakery.

1449
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need like one hundred thousand dollars in order

1450
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: to even step foot in a space that you could

1451
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 2: open a bakery. Yeah.

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01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: But I like this question of like the period that

1453
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: is you can roughly say, is the period where you're

1454
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: paying your dues so to speak, is always longer than

1455
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: you want it to be.

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01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And that's true. It does seem like and

1457
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: maybe this is maybe this isn't true, but you do

1458
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 2: have to like look at the progress you've made because

1459
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: there's always this like, at least I have this like

1460
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: fantasy in entertainment where it's like one day I won't

1461
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: have to think about anything, Like one day everything will

1462
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: be moving smoothly and I will just be coasting and

1463
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: like doing what I do. And it's like, actually, that

1464
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 2: will never come. It's more about like being comfortable with

1465
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: the discomfort and sort of the constant pushing yourself and

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01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: finding new things and exploring new options. Unfortunately, mm hmm.

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01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 2: But maybe yours is different. Maybe one day you will

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01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 2: just have it all figured out.

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01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, academia is tough. I think, God, the idea

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01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: that I'm even giving advice is laughable. But the only

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Speaker 1: advice I can give is to sort of and this

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01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: is trigger warning, this is neoliberal advice.

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01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: I'll treat yourself.

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01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is sort of like keep an

1475
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: open mind about different ways of career can look like.

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01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: I think that is the I think that's the best

1477
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: outlook when you are in an industry that's defined by scarcity,

1478
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: because if you are so laser focused on getting those

1479
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: two jobs that exist every year to drive yourself crazy,

1480
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: Like maybe it is you know you have a you

1481
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: know you have a PhD after ten years of higher ed.

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01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it is sort of doing other forms of writing

1483
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: for different audiences. Maybe it is seeing where there are

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: applications of your field in non academic environments. I'm not sure,

1485
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: and I obviously do not know your field, but I

1486
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: think keeping an open mind about what I don't know

1487
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 1: what a career can look like, I think is generally

1488
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: a good thing rather than being closed mind.

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Speaker 2: It's smart and I think it's epidemiology. According to the email, signature.

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Speaker 1: Well, honey, we need help there. Yeah, okay, final question

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: is a straight shooter. We actually got a lot of

1492
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: street shooters this time, and I'm afraid we do not

1493
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: have time to do all of them, but we did

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01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: laugh at every single one of them. And we are

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01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: doing this one just because it happens to be in

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01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: an email with other questions. We are doing sam a

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Speaker 1: stepmother who is corny or a stepfather who is porny?

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:07,839
Speaker 2: Stepfather who's porny?

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01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's sort of a no brain or

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Speaker 1: no offense to the stepmother. All right, and this is

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: our final question. Okay, Juan has two questions. Okay, this

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01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: first one I absolutely love, Juan says as a Canadian

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01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: glamour girl, I need your expert opinions. Is the extra

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01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: you we put in words like color, labor, humor, gay

1505
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: or straight. On one hand, it feels like people think

1506
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: of Canada as a United States as gay cousin. On

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01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: the other hand, that's technically the British spelling, and I'm

1508
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: pretty sure anything British is straight. Nobody is talking about

1509
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: this and we need answers. This is like, I mean,

1510
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: talk about understanding the assignment, asking us whether the extra

1511
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: you the Canadian and British people use is gayer straight

1512
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 1: is like exactly the kind of questions we would like

1513
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: in the Earnestness Bonanza.

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01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 2: I think it's gay, and I also think I'm shocked

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01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: that someone would say anything British is straight. To me,

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01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:06,480
Speaker 2: British is like America's gay brother. I feel like America

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01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 2: is the cowboy and Britain is the little fancy twink.

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01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: So I think you are. I think you're looking at

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01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: it in a very American centric way. I think it's like,

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01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: from an American point of view, Britain is gay, but

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01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: objectively speaking, Britain is straight. Does that make sense? Sure,

1522
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: It's like for Americans they see it and they're like, oh,

1523
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: who are these fancy fancy you know, drinking drinking tea?

1524
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: But then the rest of the world it's like, why

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01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: are they committing violence?

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01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally no, that makes sense.

1527
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: But having said that, I still think that you is gay.

1528
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean any sort of anything that is ornamental.

1529
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: It's flourish.

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01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: It's a flourish. I love when I you know, it's

1531
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: like you have Canadian friends and you sort of don't

1532
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: think about it because they are American passing and then

1533
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 1: they send an email and it has the extra you

1534
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 1: and you're like, you little bit, you are different.

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01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: Leave Leave please okay?

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01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,480
Speaker 2: Question number two is in order to combat my burnout,

1538
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 2: assist in my general search for joy in this capitalist world,

1539
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 2: and just for shits and giggles, I signed up for

1540
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 2: an improv class this summer. Y'all have been making me

1541
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: hoot and holler all year long as I've been catching

1542
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: up on the pod from the beginning. So I want

1543
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 2: to know if you had any advice or words of

1544
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: wisdom or warning for me as I begin this adventure. Oh, Sam,

1545
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: this is your scene. Well, improv is an incredible skill

1546
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: to have, but is not This sounds like your life. Yeah,

1547
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, it is not a job. And whatever that

1548
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: little theater you're taking classes at is telling you to

1549
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: get you for more classes. You don't believe them. Do

1550
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: not let them walk all over you.

1551
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: No.

1552
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 2: So I read this question actually, and I was reminded,

1553
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: and I've talked about this before on the pod, but

1554
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: I'll recapefly when I went to see the view and

1555
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 2: you're allowed to ask them questions while they're like setting

1556
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: up for the next segment, and an audience member asked

1557
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 2: Raven Simone, what would what advice would you give someone

1558
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: trying to get into Hollywood, and her advice was, MM, don't.

1559
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm sorry to say, she's right.

1560
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: She's right. I remember taking signing up for like literally

1561
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: first improv class when I was, you know, nineteen in Chicago,

1562
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: and like the teacher was so so bitter and was like,

1563
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: first of all, don't get into this class to make money. Okay,

1564
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 2: You're not gonna make money, second of all, and it

1565
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: was just like okay, Like sure, I know what you're saying,

1566
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 2: but like, don't like it's a one oh one. You

1567
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: also don't need to start out that way. Like I

1568
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 2: think the advice the words of wisdom to want are

1569
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: just like have fun, and I hope you like it.

1570
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: Like totally. I mean I remember I did not. I

1571
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: never took improv and as an adult, but when I

1572
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: still live in New Jersey, I there was like an

1573
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: improv class when I was in middle school and it

1574
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: was genuinely like the level of pure joy I felt

1575
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: when I was in that class, and it was like

1576
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: in the you know, it was just normal class. It

1577
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: was in the middle of the school day, so it's

1578
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: like you would go form math to improv, and I

1579
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: was I was like ecstatic, Like I was like shaking

1580
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 1: because of how much fun I was having. And I

1581
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: distinctly remember one time, you know, in my mind, I

1582
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, I wish we could do this all

1583
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: day long. And I distinctly remember one time some girl

1584
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: who was sort of like too cool for school being

1585
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: like how much longer do we have to do this?

1586
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 1: Or like, oh god, do we have to do this

1587
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: last game? And it was the first time I had

1588
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: considered that someone could not enjoy this. I was like,

1589
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you were being given the gift of unadult

1590
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: traded joy and you are acting bored with it.

1591
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: That is rough.

1592
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: So my point is, I think improv would be incredibly

1593
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: fun if you just don't go into it wanting to

1594
01:24:58,400 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: get something out of it, and you just go into

1595
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: it like with the intention to have fun, to meet

1596
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: people and to I don't know, like literally spend an

1597
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: hour not on your phone.

1598
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: Truly, truly, I mean, and back to the beginning. You know,

1599
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 2: so many adults lose their sense of play.

1600
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: It is an epidemic. That's the real epidemic is that

1601
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: no one has a sense of play.

1602
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean, we should talk about it.

1603
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: And I'm actually not even kidding like that. That is,

1604
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 1: I understand that the commodification of everything and like social

1605
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: media and all that stuff, all of those things are

1606
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: toxic for other reasons, but one of the side effects

1607
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: is no sense of play.

1608
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yeah, it's on Ernest's bonanza. If

1609
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: we're not sincerely saying that we believe in the idea

1610
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 2: of play.

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01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of we have any closing statements.

1612
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 2: I want to close my saying that I am pro

1613
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,480
Speaker 2: hot dog, I am pro Hamburger, I am pro sparkler,

1614
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 2: I am anti firework.

1615
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: What oh is this? Are you going back to the

1616
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: patriotism question.

1617
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm just going, Oh, it's fourth of July. It's fourth

1618
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 2: of July.

1619
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot that it's worth of July. Okay, Yes,

1620
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: I am against fireworks too.

1621
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: They drive me insane, too loud and like what.

1622
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: Classic gay and theory straight in practice? Yes, because you know,

1623
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: you would think like, oh, this is like flashing lights

1624
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: and it's colorful and it's rainbow, but in fact it's

1625
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: like actually war.

1626
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 2: Coded, it's a fucking bomb, and it's like it's a bomb,

1627
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: really uncomfortable to and it kills people. People. I mean,

1628
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 2: people die from fireworks all the time. At least lose

1629
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 2: a fucking hano It's true.

1630
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: Dogs are scared of it.

1631
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: Dogs are scared. Teens like to shoot them at each

1632
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: other sometimes. And it's like, I've never related. That made

1633
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: me feel like when I was a teenager, I wasn't

1634
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 2: actually a teenager. The way that I did not crave

1635
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 2: violence was like made me feel that that's actually a.

1636
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Really good point. Yeah no, that's a really good point,

1637
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: Like the idea of a food fight. Yeah no, I'm

1638
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 1: trying to eat. Actually, yeah, thanks past the pepper. Jesus,

1639
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that what are those

1640
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: things which I've actually never used in my life. They're

1641
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: little sticks that you can like write your name with

1642
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: and then you take a photo and you like have

1643
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: written your name in a little sparkly thing. Sparklers, sparklers

1644
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: that I like, that's exactly what I'm safe, family friendly,

1645
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: And by the way, photographs much better if you care

1646
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: about sharing, and and and having her post liked by

1647
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: friends doesn't photograph well.

1648
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: Fireworks and and I'm not even I'm so danger free.

1649
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't even want those sparklers that are kind of

1650
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 2: like short, Like give me the long sparkler where I

1651
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: know my hand will not touch a spark at all.

1652
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I agree with you that on pro bonfire

1653
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: pro bonfire. Yeah, I mean, I'm pro just like Christmas

1654
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: lights outside.

1655
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm pro summer and we all know that. And to me,

1656
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 2: Fourth July the celebration of summer.

1657
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: Pasta salad. You know, a small way that you can

1658
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 1: queer fourth of July is bringing apasta salad.

1659
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: I actually I'm going to make a pasta salad. That

1660
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: will be my way back into cooking is through pasta salad.

1661
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: Wait, you should do one of the Alison Roman ones.

1662
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: She has a new one every summer and it's sort

1663
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: of become like a thing.

1664
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, great, I'm gonna do that. That

1665
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: sounds fun.

1666
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 1: Perfect. All right, Well, I'll see you out there.

1667
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

1668
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Are we going to the same barbecue? Where you going

1669
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 1: to Jake's.

1670
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna be in Vermont, damn it?

1671
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 1: Yall right, well half hone eating pasta salad and Vermont bitch. Okay,

1672
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: tell Jake I say hello, bitch, yeah, and thank you

1673
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: for three incredible years and.

1674
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: Here's the three incredible more and much love to you

1675
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: all and we'll see you soon.

1676
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: Happy for bye bye