WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Believe It Or Not

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading the Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast BA Believe.

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<v Speaker 3>It or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Addition, as I talked to two Bengals rookies about a

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<v Speaker 2>hard to believe coincidence. First round draft pick Miles Murphy

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<v Speaker 2>and second round selection Dj Turner were childhood buddies and

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals didn't even know it before the draft. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll check in with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham to

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<v Speaker 2>discuss the latest off season developments one week before the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals mandatory three day mini camp, and I'll wrap things

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<v Speaker 2>up by discussing the open right tackle position with one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best right tackles in franchise history. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>and many others for all they are doing to the

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<v Speaker 2>less fortunate. Now let's get to this week's guests. As

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<v Speaker 2>you know, before the draft, the Bengals do exhaustive research

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<v Speaker 2>about every player they might consider picking. The scouts and

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<v Speaker 2>coaches talked to anybody and everybody to try to learn

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<v Speaker 2>as much as they possibly can about each prospect. That

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously the case with their first two picks this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Defensive end Miles Murphy and cornerback DJ Turner, And yet

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<v Speaker 2>there was something very interesting about that duo that the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals didn't learn until after they were drafted. Murphy and

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<v Speaker 2>Turner have known each other since they were little kids.

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<v Speaker 2>The three of us discussed that wild coincidence this week.

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<v Speaker 2>If I understand the story correctly, Miles, your mom met

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<v Speaker 2>DJ's dad when they were in kindergarten. Is that correct, Miles,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you go first.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So, all Mama has told me was they have

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<v Speaker 4>known each other since it's kindergarten, first grade, grew up

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<v Speaker 4>in the same neighborhood, been playing together since they were kids,

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<v Speaker 4>been together since they were growing up, all through their

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<v Speaker 4>lives and you know, really once he started having kids, me, DJ,

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<v Speaker 4>my brother and whatnot, we just were just together the

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<v Speaker 4>whole time. And then probably I guess they are you

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<v Speaker 4>guys living with Yeah, Swanne, we live in Marietta, so

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<v Speaker 4>that's like I live on the west coast of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>They're on the east coast of Atlanta. So they kept

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<v Speaker 4>in touch, and you know, we were talking for once

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<v Speaker 4>in a while. He went to Michigan, I went to Clemson,

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<v Speaker 4>and I guess really just turned.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, said DJ, what did you hear about Miles family

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<v Speaker 2>when you were growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>Not the same exact thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Kindergarten, first grade, grew up with each other, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean basically yeah, and then we just was family friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, that's been he.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, everything real, Yeah, just uh, they grew up with

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<v Speaker 5>each other and stuff like that, stayed in contact, they

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<v Speaker 5>was real good friends. And yeah, it just so happened

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<v Speaker 5>that we both got drafted the same team.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, it's insane, the first round pick and

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<v Speaker 2>the second round pick of the same NFL team. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the odds of this as childhood acquaintances are astronomical. Were

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<v Speaker 2>you just wold when that's the way it played out? DJ?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean for sure, But like I wasn't too

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<v Speaker 5>surprised because I mean, like when the draft was going on,

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<v Speaker 5>clause like, I mean, they take a corner and d N.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not really kind of crazy, you know, that's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a combo you tape.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>It was it's crazy that it happened, and all the

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<v Speaker 5>people and stuff, but the positionwise you look at it, like,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, corner and d N, you know, you go together.

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<v Speaker 2>So Myles, did you follow him all over the years.

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<v Speaker 4>I did, yeah, follow him of through our Michigan but uh, like, well, really,

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<v Speaker 4>like you said, just draft night, I was, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>the Thursday got drafted to Cincinnati, celebrating all of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Then Friday, Friday night, I was just chilling in the

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<v Speaker 4>basement watching the draft, man, I was. I was on

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<v Speaker 4>my phone and all all I hear upstairs is my

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<v Speaker 4>mom screamed and she started running.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look on the TV screen. I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 1>she's screaming? And then I see DJ's highlights. I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why she's screaming now.

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<v Speaker 4>So I go upstairs and she's on the phone trying

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<v Speaker 4>to call his dad, trying to call his mom. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>they're probably celebrated. They're not going to answer the phone

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<v Speaker 4>right now. Just you know, let him celebrate for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, it was cool though. It was for

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<v Speaker 4>sure cool.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom actually answered, yeah, she is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom answered like yeah, because because I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>who are you on the phone with right now?

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<v Speaker 1>She was like I was like, oh, okay, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense, So have your well your dad, DJ and Miles.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom had a lot of contacts since you two guys

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<v Speaker 2>were taken uh.

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<v Speaker 5>A little bit, yeah, I mean yeah, for sure. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean they always stay in contact, even when it just

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<v Speaker 5>will happened. And they both came the same weekend, and

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<v Speaker 5>so like when they came, they moved helped me move

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<v Speaker 5>me in, and then it was helping him move in

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<v Speaker 5>and all that kind of stuff. And they was here,

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<v Speaker 5>so they saw each other up here and since ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>So so this pictures made the rounds. If you two

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<v Speaker 2>guys as kids, I don't know if you were eight

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<v Speaker 2>or ten or how old you were, but you're at

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<v Speaker 2>a you're the childhood birthday party together, which is just crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how old I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of these agents had the picture with whose agent?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh nah nah, my my dad, we had the picture.

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<v Speaker 5>But then my agent had the picture too, and so

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<v Speaker 5>he sent it to somebody in the Bengals and then

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<v Speaker 5>asked when it just took off?

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<v Speaker 1>But like obviously, I mean we had the pictures forever.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, are you amazed that the Bengals had no idea?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they do all this research about you.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys, surprising I was surprised that they had no idea,

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<v Speaker 5>like none. I was surprised because the way they be researching,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought there were no something, But no, they had

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<v Speaker 5>no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh, okay, is.

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<v Speaker 2>There a bond between you two guys from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>getting to know each other at least somewhat as kids.

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<v Speaker 4>About to say, like especially now, it's just been like

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<v Speaker 4>a just funny moment honestly, and we'll joke about it

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, but you know, really just building that

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<v Speaker 4>chemistry on the field, off the field, and then the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest thing for really for both of us learning that playbook,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get that done right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys both had highly decorated college careers.

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<v Speaker 2>How closely did you track each other's progress?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean big all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, like I said, I was looking at going

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<v Speaker 5>to Clemson too, So I mean I definitely was watching it.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's a whole bunch of Georgia people from Clemson,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I know so many people on Clemson. So obviously

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<v Speaker 5>I'm turning the game on all the time to turn

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<v Speaker 5>whenever I could to watch Clemson. So yeah, I definitely

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<v Speaker 5>kept up a lot of well cle his career.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Miles, since you were taken before DJ, were you

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<v Speaker 2>thinking going into the second round? Hey, DJ, Turner is

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<v Speaker 2>still there, but that would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>I literally what I was saying was the front office

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<v Speaker 4>notes who they want, so they're gonna take soe. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>I have no say, but you know, it'd be nice

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<v Speaker 4>to have them, but they gonna take who they want.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's little what I was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>They go on.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you have no Yeah, you have no saying

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>You just waiting for that call. That's all you care about.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that it's happened and your teammates hopefully for

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<v Speaker 2>many many years to come, how cool is this? DJ?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean great plans to do big things here and

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<v Speaker 5>so you know definitely both us playing in and locked

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<v Speaker 5>in trying to learn to play a book and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you find it pretty quol as well? Miles?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, just uh it's good to know like that,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm familiar, already familiar with someone. And then our families

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<v Speaker 4>are familiar with another person's family, so they're for sure

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<v Speaker 4>gonna I guess once they're trying to figure out the

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<v Speaker 4>parents section, they're going to be trying to coordinate how

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<v Speaker 4>that is?

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw a quote where Miles mom called your

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<v Speaker 2>dad Drago, which I know a lot of your friends do.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to call him Drago or do you already?

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<v Speaker 4>I just say DJ because I say DJ or mister Drago,

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's that is what I say.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, I like, how DJ is my name? That's

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<v Speaker 5>that's how as that's my dad name.

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<v Speaker 2>So like that's why you're DJ because people call your Drego.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, So he's literally Dreco.

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<v Speaker 5>So but then there's like three d days on the team,

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<v Speaker 5>and then from from high school and stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>people in college and all that, people call me one

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<v Speaker 5>Jargo Drego one. You know, once people find out my

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<v Speaker 5>real name and not take off. But you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll go on all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>From childhood buddies or at least acquaintances to NFL teammates,

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<v Speaker 2>Miles Murphy, DJ Turner, it's really cool. Great to have

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<v Speaker 2>you both on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds good. Desert.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you haven't seen the picture that

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned in that conversation, just do a search for

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<v Speaker 2>Miles Murphy DJ Turner childhood photo. It's the first image

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<v Speaker 2>off season program ends next week with a three day

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<v Speaker 2>mandatory mini camp. After that, the players are off for

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<v Speaker 2>more than a month before training camp gets underway in

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<v Speaker 2>late July. For a look at how things stand right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I caught up with a broadcast partner, Dave Lapham. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the approach that Zach Taylor is taking this offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot has been made to the fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals are not holding the maximum number of practices. They're

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<v Speaker 2>probably holding less physical practices than any other team in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. What do you make of it?

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<v Speaker 6>I think that the players feel like Zach's taking care

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<v Speaker 6>of them, so they're going to take care of him.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that you know, they're putting forth maximum effort

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<v Speaker 6>at every single practice. I think they feel like they

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<v Speaker 6>have a coach that gets it and they're going to

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<v Speaker 6>do everything they possibly can to have success for that

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<v Speaker 6>football coach. And you know, it's interesting to me because

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<v Speaker 6>I look at some of it and so many guys

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<v Speaker 6>have chips on their shoulders. You know, there are guys

0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.720
<v Speaker 6>that want new contracts, so they're gonna give ultimate maximum

0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.400
<v Speaker 6>effort and performance. I think Jamar Chase has a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit of a mentality like, man, I missed those games

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<v Speaker 6>last year due to injury. You know, I'm gonna come

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<v Speaker 6>back and have a monster year this year, feeling like

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of regret that he wasn't there, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>down the stretch, not due to anything other than injury

0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:31.320
<v Speaker 6>obviously that you can't control. But for guys have different

0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.120
<v Speaker 6>reasons to go out there and just put forth tremendous

0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.640
<v Speaker 6>effort and set themselves up for the best possible season

0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.960
<v Speaker 6>they can have. So I think it's shown itself on

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<v Speaker 6>the football field.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they started oh and two last year, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people were like they didn't hit enough in

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<v Speaker 2>training camp. Guys needed to play in the preseason more

0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.160
<v Speaker 2>than they did well. They ended the season with a

0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.960
<v Speaker 2>ten game winning streak until losing to Kansas City in

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<v Speaker 2>the AFC Championship Game. Do you think that reinforced in

0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Zach's mind that this is the right approach. We do

0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.040
<v Speaker 2>need to start better than zero and two. But the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom line is we finished the season relatively fresh, relatively healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're within two minutes of Whenning are going back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think part of that own to start, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the slow start in general, losing the first

0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.000
<v Speaker 6>three division games and everything. You know, Joe Burrow is

0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.120
<v Speaker 6>coming off with pendicitis and and now that's the straw

0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:23.920
<v Speaker 6>that stirs the drink. And uh, you know, I really

0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.520
<v Speaker 6>salute him for playing. You know, he was he was

0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.760
<v Speaker 6>not the Joe Burrow that we're seeing, you know, at

0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.600
<v Speaker 6>one hundred percent obviously, but he still performed at a

0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.360
<v Speaker 6>very good level. But it wasn't it wasn't his best level.

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<v Speaker 6>And once he rounded in the form off, they went so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I don't I don't think you throw the

0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.320
<v Speaker 6>baby out with the bathwater, you know, I think you

0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.840
<v Speaker 6>I think you just still stay with what's your belief

0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.760
<v Speaker 6>is the best way to approach it, because I tell

0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:56.000
<v Speaker 6>you from experience, and it's even more so now. The

0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.079
<v Speaker 6>same number of games, but you know, change the preseason

0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.760
<v Speaker 6>games to the regular seas. It's a long season. It's

0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.680
<v Speaker 6>just a grind, it really is. And I think this

0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.719
<v Speaker 6>football team has positioned themselves exceptionally well from a roster standpoint.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, if you can you handle that variable

0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.840
<v Speaker 6>that nobody can hit. You can't control the injury variable,

0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.040
<v Speaker 6>you try as best you can to control it, and

0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:21.760
<v Speaker 6>Zach fields this is the best way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>They've signed a ton of free agents over the last

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<v Speaker 2>three or four years. Money is obviously the bottom line

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<v Speaker 2>and free agency. But do you think this approach really

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of the guys so to speak, pays off

0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.080
<v Speaker 2>when he comes to free agency.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because there are no secrets in the league, you know.

0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.640
<v Speaker 6>I mean, everybody has friends on every single team, and

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<v Speaker 6>there's no doubt that I think. I think Zach Taylor

0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.800
<v Speaker 6>is universally known around the National Football League as quote

0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.000
<v Speaker 6>a player's coach. You know, a guy that is going

0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.920
<v Speaker 6>to take care of the players, isn't going to, you know,

0:13:55.040 --> 0:14:00.720
<v Speaker 6>burden them unnecessarily. Ego lists that it's all about the players.

0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.559
<v Speaker 6>They're going to do everything they possibly can as a

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<v Speaker 6>coaching staff to put the players in the best position

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<v Speaker 6>they possibly can to perform at the highest level they

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<v Speaker 6>possibly can and win as many games as they can.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there have been discussions among the coaching staff

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<v Speaker 2>about whether guys should play in the preseason this coming year,

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<v Speaker 2>at least a few series in one of the games

0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.520
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. But then we learned last week

0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.280
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to have a joint practice with Green

0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Bay before that preseason game, just one this time, not two,

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<v Speaker 2>since we saw what happened in the second practice of

0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the Rams last year. But when I saw that, I figured, well,

0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.200
<v Speaker 2>there's probably where your starters are going to see your

0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.880
<v Speaker 2>action or see their action. It's probably not going to

0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.600
<v Speaker 2>be in the actual preseason games. Again, did you feel

0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:40.600
<v Speaker 2>the same way I did?

0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:40.880
<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>When I saw that they were coming in. Coach Lafleura

0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.920
<v Speaker 6>and Zach obviously have a very keen understanding of each other,

0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.520
<v Speaker 6>and they totally trust how each other are going to

0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.280
<v Speaker 6>handle that joint practice and they'll get really good work

0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.840
<v Speaker 6>in without going over the top as such as what

0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.040
<v Speaker 6>happened in day two against the Rams. But yeah, when

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<v Speaker 6>when I saw heard that they were going to have

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<v Speaker 6>that joint practice, it came to the same conclusion you did. Said, Okay,

0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.480
<v Speaker 6>preseason game number one against Green Bay, I know you're

0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.640
<v Speaker 6>not going to see very many starters for sure, if

0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:20.440
<v Speaker 6>any and everything's going to be taking place scripted, go

0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.480
<v Speaker 6>after it, and I think both teams will practice at

0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.160
<v Speaker 6>a very high level. Now they won't, they won't, you know,

0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.360
<v Speaker 6>probably take people to the ground. There may there may

0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.600
<v Speaker 6>be a period or two where it's full all out

0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.200
<v Speaker 6>and some of those workouts that's been the case, take

0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.680
<v Speaker 6>them to the ground. But I think I thought they

0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.160
<v Speaker 6>got really good work against the Rams last year, other

0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.320
<v Speaker 6>than obviously when it got out of control with guys

0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.400
<v Speaker 6>taking helmets off each other's heads and squatting at them

0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.600
<v Speaker 6>and all that kind of thing. Other than that we

0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.040
<v Speaker 6>take that part of it away, you know, it was

0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.240
<v Speaker 6>pretty good football. And I think that'll be the same

0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.520
<v Speaker 6>against the Packers for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is still a voluntary phase. Most of the

0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.720
<v Speaker 2>guys have been here at least for some of the

0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.960
<v Speaker 2>time during these voluntary workouts. We've got mandatory workouts coming

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<v Speaker 2>up next week. Do you think Jonah Williams will be

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<v Speaker 2>here for the start of the mandatory period.

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, uh. I think Jonah is uh, you know,

0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.960
<v Speaker 6>he's coming. He's rehabbing, coming off that surgery. So even

0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.360
<v Speaker 6>if he's here, I'm not sure how much he's going

0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.200
<v Speaker 6>to be able to do anyway, but I think he

0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:27.080
<v Speaker 6>will be here. You know, I'd really be surprised if

0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.480
<v Speaker 6>he's not. Let me put it that way. Knowing him

0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.400
<v Speaker 6>to the extent that I do, and I think that

0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.720
<v Speaker 6>Frank Pollock and uh and Zach and probably everybody, uh,

0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, Coach Callahan, everybody involved, you know, feel like

0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.440
<v Speaker 6>there's a good chance that Jonah will be here for

0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.560
<v Speaker 6>those uh those mandatory practices, and I would be very

0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.640
<v Speaker 6>surprised if he. If he wasn't. Stranger things have happened,

0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:55.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, but I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think, uh,

0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.000
<v Speaker 6>he and his partner had a baby as well, so

0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:03.160
<v Speaker 6>there's that newborn involved and rehabbing, so he's decided to

0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.199
<v Speaker 6>spend time, you know, in that process taking care of

0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:11.240
<v Speaker 6>him himself and his family instead of being here in

0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.000
<v Speaker 6>the in the voluntary workouts.

0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.000
<v Speaker 2>It is voluntary, so for anybody that gets on a

0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.640
<v Speaker 2>guy thinking it's a sign of a bad, bad attitude

0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.000
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. I think that's overblown. There's a

0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.359
<v Speaker 2>reason there's voluntary periods and there are mandatory periods. And

0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.520
<v Speaker 2>another thing to keep in mind when it comes to

0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.240
<v Speaker 2>the voluntary periods, the guys on their second contract are

0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.480
<v Speaker 2>highly incentivized to be there. They get big bonuses for

0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.240
<v Speaker 2>showing up for the offseason workouts and so forth. So

0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that those guys are not, you know,

0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.720
<v Speaker 2>being great team players, but they are being compensated to

0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:43.080
<v Speaker 2>be here.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no doubt, you know, and you don't. You don't

0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.200
<v Speaker 6>want to get nicked, you know, you don't. I think

0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.480
<v Speaker 6>you can be maybe you can't be fine, but you're

0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.160
<v Speaker 6>certainly not going to get the money that you could

0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.159
<v Speaker 6>have you could have collected by by showing up. And

0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.840
<v Speaker 6>I don't know Jonah. To me, he's I'm not saying

0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.560
<v Speaker 6>he's a throwback from a mentality standpoint, but I think

0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:09.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, obviously he had had an initial reaction and

0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.040
<v Speaker 6>a disappointment and all that that you can understand. But

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.919
<v Speaker 6>I think when push comes to shove, Jonah Williams is

0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.040
<v Speaker 6>a consummate team player, and you know, I mean, you

0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:20.760
<v Speaker 6>go to the right tackle position and show that you

0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.359
<v Speaker 6>can play it. He's still going to be making you know,

0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.159
<v Speaker 6>a lots of money, double digit millions, you know, in

0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.760
<v Speaker 6>that contract year. And you go out there and you

0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.320
<v Speaker 6>show that you can play left tackle and you can

0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.880
<v Speaker 6>also play right tackle in the National Football League, that's

0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:37.879
<v Speaker 6>going to do nothing to take take away your value

0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.960
<v Speaker 6>as a football player in the offensive line. It's going

0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:40.600
<v Speaker 6>to enhance it.

0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the guy that took his spot at

0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.520
<v Speaker 2>left tackle, Orlando Brown Junior. He's a proven player, four

0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.640
<v Speaker 2>time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion, He's a gigantic man.

0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I am amazed by the person. He is the most amiable, friendly,

0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.680
<v Speaker 2>happy guy I think I've ever met. What a great

0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.040
<v Speaker 2>addition to the locker room.

0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.800
<v Speaker 6>He really is. I mean, he's always got a smile

0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 6>on his face. I mean he's positive in every every

0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.640
<v Speaker 6>single way that you can be from football, not only football,

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.920
<v Speaker 6>but life in general, you know. I mean, he's he's

0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.080
<v Speaker 6>just one of those guys. He's a he's gonna be

0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.200
<v Speaker 6>a huge asset on the football field, in the locker room,

0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:26.720
<v Speaker 6>in the community. He's they broke the mold and he's

0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.200
<v Speaker 6>one of those guys that is a rare, rare human

0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.200
<v Speaker 6>being and he gets it. He gets it on every

0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.119
<v Speaker 6>single level. Uh and and he has the it factor,

0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, And it's like when you have it, you

0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 6>might understand that you have it and you don't want

0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.919
<v Speaker 6>to lose it. And people can't really define it, but

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.720
<v Speaker 6>they know that that guy has it. And I think

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.440
<v Speaker 6>he has that in factor, I really do.

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.120
<v Speaker 2>So the practices have been pretty vanilla so far. There

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.359
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been a lot of offense versus defense. There was

0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:58.760
<v Speaker 2>some seven on seven stuff today. Has anybody caught your eye,

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.120
<v Speaker 2>any of the rookies, any of the free agents, made

0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.480
<v Speaker 2>you stand up and say, Okay, this guy's showing me something.

0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the thing that has impressed me is that

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 6>they've played at a high level of intensity. The tempo

0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.320
<v Speaker 6>has been really good, and nobody has shown that they

0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:15.879
<v Speaker 6>don't belong.

0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:16.119
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 6>It's like everybody there, there's there's nobody that's that's out

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.679
<v Speaker 6>of position, either from mental error or just getting beaten

0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 6>physically in some sort of a matchup. It's it's really

0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:30.719
<v Speaker 6>been pretty good competition out there, and everything's as advertised,

0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.920
<v Speaker 6>I think, which is what you're you're kind of looking for,

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, but seen it in the past, have seen it,

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:41.120
<v Speaker 6>you know, as a player. Guys sometimes you know, look

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 6>like Tarzan and and some of these drills and then

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.439
<v Speaker 6>all of a sudden, oncome the pads and end up

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:47.400
<v Speaker 6>playing like Jane a little bit, you know. And as

0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 6>the old saying goes, so the true tesla when the

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.439
<v Speaker 6>rubber meets the road, is when the helmets and shoulder

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.560
<v Speaker 6>pads come on and they go to training camp and

0:20:56.560 --> 0:21:00.240
<v Speaker 6>and then that's the final, the final step that you

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.680
<v Speaker 6>have to take. You know, a lot of times, oh

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.959
<v Speaker 6>he was in position to make that tackle, Well, all

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 6>of a sudden they put on shoulder peasant helmet and

0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 6>they're not making the tackle. And they might have been

0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 6>in position, but they aren't finishing the thing. But everybody

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 6>right now, when you're looking at it in shorts and

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:19.399
<v Speaker 6>T shirts, every single person out there, from top to bottom.

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.919
<v Speaker 6>And that's the one thing that has impressed me, I

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 6>think the most so far in the OTAs is the

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:28.280
<v Speaker 6>depth of the roster. I mean, there's nobody that's like,

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.240
<v Speaker 6>what the hell is this guy doing here? Everybody belongs

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 6>and I think everybody has something to contribute.

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 2>So last year at this time, we were getting our

0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.679
<v Speaker 2>first look at Hayden Hurst in a Bengals uniform, and

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I remember watching him thinking, all right, this guy is

0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 2>more fluid than C. J Uzama, similar size, similar speed,

0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.159
<v Speaker 2>but just gets in and out of his brakes a

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 2>little more fluidly. Now, IRV Smith Jr. Isn't quite as big,

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's another guy where I'm thinking he's a little

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 2>smoother and a little more fluid even than hayden Hurst.

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and you know, you see him make plays where

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, if the balls behind him, that's a tough

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 6>catch to make and to turn your body and be

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:14.199
<v Speaker 6>He shows flexibility, he shows strength, he shows athleticism. I

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.359
<v Speaker 6>think I think Joe Burrow is going to really really

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 6>like having him as an option to throw to in

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<v Speaker 6>that passing game with all the receivers that they've got

0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:24.960
<v Speaker 6>that he can spread the field with and let earth

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<v Speaker 6>Smith Junior work the middle of the football field. And

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<v Speaker 6>we've seen, you know, like you said, C. J. Zama

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<v Speaker 6>do it, hayden Hurst do it. There's no reason watching

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<v Speaker 6>earth Smith, the athletic ability that he has and the

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<v Speaker 6>football pedigree, the bloodlines and everything else he has, I

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<v Speaker 6>expect him to have a pretty significant season. I think

0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 6>Joe Borrow is going to really like throwing the ball

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<v Speaker 6>to earth Smith Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the first week of June. There's no Burrow extension yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any doubt in your mind that this will

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<v Speaker 2>get done before the start of the season.

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<v Speaker 6>There's not any doubt in my mind, But I guess

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<v Speaker 6>would I'd be shocked if it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess nothing shocks me anymore, but i'd be I'd be,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, surprised that you couldn't finalize because I think

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 6>both sides are eager, you know, to get it done.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's just a matter of closing the closing the

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<v Speaker 6>final gap, you know, and and getting that thing done.

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<v Speaker 6>Having negotiated contracts myself, it's the toughest, the toughest part

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<v Speaker 6>of the contract is that final that final step to

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 6>get to you know, you start to close the gap,

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<v Speaker 6>close the gap, close the gap. There's a give and

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<v Speaker 6>take and then then everybody starts, Okay, well that's it.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not I'm not budgeting anymore, and just that final

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 6>gap to get it closed, whatever it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>there's one bargaining point that one side is going to

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<v Speaker 6>be you know, firm on and the opposite and on

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 6>the other side, and it's just that one final thing

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<v Speaker 6>to overcome whatever it may be and to get that

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 6>contract consummated. So it's going to be interest. I'm interested

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<v Speaker 6>to see who goes who falls first, Herbert or Burrow.

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<v Speaker 6>But in my estimation, even if Borrow signs first, I

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 6>don't think Herbert gets as much as Burrow. If Herbert

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<v Speaker 6>signs first, I think Borrow gets more. If Borrow signs first,

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:20.360
<v Speaker 6>I think then the Borrow is set and then Herbert

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<v Speaker 6>will fall in line. I just don't think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be one of those deals where all right, well one

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<v Speaker 6>will sign, the other one will supersede. I don't necessarily

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 6>think that would would be the case, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you put it that way, then there's really

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<v Speaker 2>no reason for a Herbert deal to hold up a

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Burrow deal. Yeah, and Burrow deserves more. His team has

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>accomplished much more. Five playoff wins to none, a trip

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to the Super Bowl to none. Herbert's got the better stats,

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 2>at least in terms of you know, cumulative numbers, but

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Burrow has done more to this point to deserve the

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<v Speaker 2>better deal.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree, you know, and I think I think that

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<v Speaker 6>is the pecking order. In my mind. The only quarterback

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<v Speaker 6>that you know has had more success individually and team

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<v Speaker 6>wise is Patrick Maholmes, you know, And I think I

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<v Speaker 6>think Joe is Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow. That's in

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 6>my mind, that's that's the pecking order. And I'm not

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 6>saying there are other great ones. I mean, Lawrence is great,

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 6>Hurst is great, there's you know, Jackson's great. But I

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 6>think I think Joe Burrow should should fall, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>should be the guy right now until Mahomes goes to

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<v Speaker 6>the bargaining table again, because right now I think he's

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<v Speaker 6>seventh or something in terms of quarterback compensation. But he's

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<v Speaker 6>already gone to the table and gotten money and he'll

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<v Speaker 6>do it again. But I think Joe Burrow has earned

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<v Speaker 6>that place in the ranking system. I really do.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>We were among the fortunate folks invited to play in

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow's golf tournament for the Joe Burrow Foundation and

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<v Speaker 2>then attend the after party, which was spectacular, raising hundreds

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 2>of thousands of dollars. It was remarkable. You know, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>has this saying we all have a responsibility to do good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just the saying for Joe Burrow. He lives it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean you talk about a twenty six year

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>old person that gets it, he is the epitome of that.

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<v Speaker 6>He really is. I mean, you know, the thing, the

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 6>thing about Joe that resonates with me is, you know,

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 6>he does everything with class. You know, he does everything

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 6>in a first class basis really, and it's just everything,

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 6>everything that he associates himself with is gold. I mean,

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 6>he is minus everything. He touches his gold. And you know,

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 6>the fans just they just absolutely go crazy for an

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 6>opportunity to do something, whatever it may be with Joe Burrow.

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 6>I mean a day at training camp with Jimmy Burrow,

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 6>Joe's dad goes for you know, forty forty five thousand dollars.

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, what the heck?

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<v Speaker 3>This is great.

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<v Speaker 6>But the thing that impressed me haven't been involved in

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<v Speaker 6>a tournament for you know, a good quarter of a century.

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<v Speaker 6>With the Down Centerm Association, there's a lot of work

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, shout out to Karencottell, who does a

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 6>tremendous job for the Down Syndrom Association. Joe's parents put

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 6>in so much time and everybody else committee. Those things

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 6>aren't easy to pull off, and I thought it went

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<v Speaker 6>really well for the first time that they did it

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 6>pretty flawless and it was everybody. Everybody really I think,

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 6>enjoyed it. And it's going to be around for as

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<v Speaker 6>long as they want it to be around, I think,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's going to do a lot of good for

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow hosted his fundraising golf tournament on Monday, and

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a former Bengal standout hosted his on Thursday. Former right

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>tackle Joe Walter, who helped the Bengals get to Super

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Bowl twenty three. He's been the host of the Goodwill

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Celebrity golf outing for more than twenty years, helping to

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>provide employment and training services for people with disabilities. I

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>caught up with Joe before his event got underway. Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>They're on a ton of question marks on the roster

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<v Speaker 2>right now, but one of them is at your former position,

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<v Speaker 2>right tackle. The odds on favorite is probably Jonah Williams,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's played the left side in Cincinnati the last

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>three years, hasn't played right tackle since his freshman year

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 2>at Alabama. Do you look at this as a difficult

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>move for him to go back from left to right.

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I, you know, not really. I think if he's really

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 3>got his mindset right and he's worked at the offseason,

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I think he'll just really good at it. He's got

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>that type of mentality. He's a smart guy. But you

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 3>got to work at it right, and if he does that,

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I think it does nothing but help him in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the pool of candidates for right tack.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Jonah, You've got l Collins, who played the

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>first fifteen games last year, but then tores Ac, LMCL

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and PCL on Christmas Eve. You've got Jackson Carman, who

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>hasn't had a great start to his first two NFL seasons.

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Then you've got Cody Ford kind of a similar situation,

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.959
<v Speaker 2>but he's been in the league longer. Do you feel

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>good that out of that pool of candidates they're going

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to get good play from somebody at right tackle?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, competition breeds greatness, right, So you've got four good guys.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about Collins with his health right it's

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 3>going to be tougher for him to come back. But

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>with the three other Ford, Jonah and just for Jackson Jackson,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that'll be good competition and hopefully they get

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of reps and the coaches can see what

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 3>they've got. But if you want to play and make

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>money in the future, you got to be good at

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 3>right tackle.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>So last year they have the same five guys start

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the first fifteen games, and then in three straight weeks

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>they lose starters leading up to the AFC Championship game. Unfortunately,

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a deja vu situation for you. He

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 2>suffered an injury in the final game of the regular

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>season in eighty eight before the Super Bowl. What did

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>you think of how that impacted the Bengals as they

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>tried to get back to the Super Bowl.

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it impacts big time, right, you lose three guys.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 3>I keep telling everybody, Now, this team on paper looks awesome, right,

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>but you got to stay healthy. And we weren't healthy

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 3>towards the end of the year last year. Year before,

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 3>we were healthy. So I think it's all about staying healthy.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I think if the line can stay healthy another year

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 3>playing together, now you're going to have that right tackle

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 3>mix where he's not used to playing with the guard right.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 3>So they've got to learn that. But hopefully with a

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 3>full training camp and guys out there practicing.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be good.

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 3>We'll be all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have a bit of a deja vu flashback

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>last year when those got got hurt so late in

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>the season.

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>A little bit.

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It was tough because I knew what they were

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 3>going through, and I know what I go through even

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 3>today just thinking about not being able to play in

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 3>the big game and in the playoffs.

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Or visiting with Joe Walter. What was your reaction when

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the Bengals signed the number one free agent offensive lineman

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>available this year in Orlando Brown Junior.

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I was shocked because there was no word. Nobody even

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 3>knew anything, and it just woke up one day and

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>there he was, and I went, that was one of

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 3>the largest pickups the Bengals have ever had. And you know,

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 3>hopefully he can stay healthy. And I know he's really

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 3>a smart guy and he's really into it and he

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 3>wants to be great, which is he's got that desire.

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 3>I think we're going to be good.

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 2>After they signed him, Jonah demanded a trade. He's going

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>into the final year of his contract. He's only played

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:53.239
<v Speaker 2>left tackle in the NFL so far. Did you understand it,

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>did you identify with it? What was your reaction to

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Jonah's reaction.

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, my initial reaction was I get it. But

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the more I thought about it that same day, I thought,

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 3>go play right tackleing make yourself even more valuable right

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>because if you can play both sides and play both

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 3>sides really well, that's going to do nothing but help

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 3>you next year in free agency.

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>How confident are you that the Bengals, who win a

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl in the Joe Burrow era very confident.

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I think they've got all the tangibles they need. They've

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 3>got folks on both sides of the ball that can play. Obviously,

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 3>in football you need a little luck and you've got

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 3>to stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're here at the Goodwill Celebrity Golf outing. You've been

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>involved with this for more than twenty years. How did

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>you get involved and why have you stayed involved?

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, initially I started out, as you remember my Special

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Olympics golf outing, and heck that was twenty three years

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 3>ago too, And so the folks at Goodwill were there

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 3>and they came up and talked to me and asked

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 3>me about it. And you know the reason I do

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 3>it is because I did the Special Olympics, because you

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 3>got folks with disabilities that are where than the athletics

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>part of it, right, And then when Goodwill came along,

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 3>these these folks put folks with disabilities to work, They

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 3>train them and then find them jobs, right, So it

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>worked hand in hand and it's been a great thing.

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 3>I love giving all the clients hell and I treat

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 3>them like anybody else. I don't baby them, and that's

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 3>what's fun about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for all you do. Thanks for the time today.

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Much appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for coming out, brother, appreciate you.

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