1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading the Bengals Booth 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Podcast BA Believe. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 3: It or not. 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Addition, as I talked to two Bengals rookies about a 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: hard to believe coincidence. First round draft pick Miles Murphy 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: and second round selection Dj Turner were childhood buddies and 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: the Bengals didn't even know it before the draft. Plus, 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: I'll check in with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham to 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: discuss the latest off season developments one week before the 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Bengals mandatory three day mini camp, and I'll wrap things 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: up by discussing the open right tackle position with one 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: of the best right tackles in franchise history. The Bengals 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 2: Booth Podcast is brought to you by Paycorps. More than 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: twenty nine thousand customers trust Paycorp to help them recruit, pay, engage, 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: and retain employees. Learn more at paycorp dot com. Now 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: edition of this podcast Liver write to your phone, tablet, 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: or computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: the greatest thing since the Joe Burrow Foundation. The Bengals 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: quarterback is one of several players on the team who 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: is using his platform to help others. The primary focus 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: of Joe's foundation is to help families battling hunger and 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 2: children dealing with mental health issues, and this week Joe 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: held a golf tournament that raised nearly one million dollars. 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: The slogan of the Borough Foundation is simple, Everyone has 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: a responsibility to do good, which is not to be 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: confused with the Derek Zoolander Center for children who can't 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: read good and want to learn to do other stuff 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: good too. Hopefully you get the movie reference. In any case, 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Thank you to Joe Burrow, Sam Hubbard, DJ Reader, Tyler Boyd, 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: Ted Karris, Joe Mixon, T Higgins, Jamar Chase cal Adamitas, 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: and many others for all they are doing to the 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: less fortunate. Now let's get to this week's guests. As 35 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, before the draft, the Bengals do exhaustive research 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: about every player they might consider picking. The scouts and 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: coaches talked to anybody and everybody to try to learn 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: as much as they possibly can about each prospect. That 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: was obviously the case with their first two picks this year. 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: Defensive end Miles Murphy and cornerback DJ Turner, And yet 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: there was something very interesting about that duo that the 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: Bengals didn't learn until after they were drafted. Murphy and 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: Turner have known each other since they were little kids. 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: The three of us discussed that wild coincidence this week. 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: If I understand the story correctly, Miles, your mom met 46 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: DJ's dad when they were in kindergarten. Is that correct, Miles, 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: I'll let you go first. 48 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, all Mama has told me was they have 49 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: known each other since it's kindergarten, first grade, grew up 50 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: in the same neighborhood, been playing together since they were kids, 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: been together since they were growing up, all through their 52 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: lives and you know, really once he started having kids, me, DJ, 53 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: my brother and whatnot, we just were just together the 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: whole time. And then probably I guess they are you 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 4: guys living with Yeah, Swanne, we live in Marietta, so 56 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: that's like I live on the west coast of Atlanta. 57 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 4: They're on the east coast of Atlanta. So they kept 58 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 4: in touch, and you know, we were talking for once 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: in a while. He went to Michigan, I went to Clemson, 60 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: and I guess really just turned. 61 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: Out, said DJ, what did you hear about Miles family 62 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: when you were growing up? 63 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Not the same exact thing. 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: Kindergarten, first grade, grew up with each other, Yeah, I 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 5: mean basically yeah, and then we just was family friends. 66 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, that's been he. 67 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 5: Said, everything real, Yeah, just uh, they grew up with 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 5: each other and stuff like that, stayed in contact, they 69 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 5: was real good friends. And yeah, it just so happened 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 5: that we both got drafted the same team. 71 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's insane, the first round pick and 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: the second round pick of the same NFL team. I mean, 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: the odds of this as childhood acquaintances are astronomical. Were 74 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: you just wold when that's the way it played out? DJ? 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean for sure, But like I wasn't too 76 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 5: surprised because I mean, like when the draft was going on, 77 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 5: clause like, I mean, they take a corner and d N. 78 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: That's not really kind of crazy, you know, that's kind 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: of a combo you tape. 80 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: So I mean. 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 5: It was it's crazy that it happened, and all the 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: people and stuff, but the positionwise you look at it, like, 83 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 5: I mean, corner and d N, you know, you go together. 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 2: So Myles, did you follow him all over the years. 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 4: I did, yeah, follow him of through our Michigan but uh, like, well, really, 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 4: like you said, just draft night, I was, I guess 87 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: the Thursday got drafted to Cincinnati, celebrating all of that. 88 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: Then Friday, Friday night, I was just chilling in the 89 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 4: basement watching the draft, man, I was. I was on 90 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: my phone and all all I hear upstairs is my 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: mom screamed and she started running. 92 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: And I look on the TV screen. I'm like, why 93 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: she's screaming? And then I see DJ's highlights. I'm like, oh, okay, 94 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: I understand why she's screaming now. 95 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 4: So I go upstairs and she's on the phone trying 96 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: to call his dad, trying to call his mom. I'm like, 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: they're probably celebrated. They're not going to answer the phone 98 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: right now. Just you know, let him celebrate for a second. 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: But you know, it was cool though. It was for 100 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 4: sure cool. 101 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: My mom actually answered, yeah, she is. Yeah. 102 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 5: My mom answered like yeah, because because I was like, 103 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 5: who are you on the phone with right now? 104 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: She was like I was like, oh, okay, okay, yeah, 105 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: it makes. 106 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: Sense, So have your well your dad, DJ and Miles. 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: Mom had a lot of contacts since you two guys 108 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: were taken uh. 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 5: A little bit, yeah, I mean yeah, for sure. I 110 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 5: mean they always stay in contact, even when it just 111 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 5: will happened. And they both came the same weekend, and 112 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 5: so like when they came, they moved helped me move 113 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 5: me in, and then it was helping him move in 114 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. And they was here, 115 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 5: so they saw each other up here and since ninety. 116 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: So so this pictures made the rounds. If you two 117 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: guys as kids, I don't know if you were eight 118 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: or ten or how old you were, but you're at 119 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: a you're the childhood birthday party together, which is just crazy. 120 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: It was I don't know what it was. 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: I don't know how old I was. 122 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 123 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: But some of these agents had the picture with whose agent? 124 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Uh nah nah, my my dad, we had the picture. 125 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 5: But then my agent had the picture too, and so 126 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 5: he sent it to somebody in the Bengals and then 127 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 5: asked when it just took off? 128 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: But like obviously, I mean we had the pictures forever. 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: You know, are you amazed that the Bengals had no idea? 130 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: I mean, they do all this research about you. 131 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 5: Guys, surprising I was surprised that they had no idea, 132 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 5: like none. I was surprised because the way they be researching, 133 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: I thought there were no something, But no, they had 134 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: no idea. 135 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: So oh, okay, is. 136 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: There a bond between you two guys from you know, 137 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: getting to know each other at least somewhat as kids. 138 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: About to say, like especially now, it's just been like 139 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: a just funny moment honestly, and we'll joke about it 140 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 4: all the time, but you know, really just building that 141 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: chemistry on the field, off the field, and then the 142 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: biggest thing for really for both of us learning that playbook, 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: trying to get that done right now. 144 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: So no, for sure. 145 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys both had highly decorated college careers. 146 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: How closely did you track each other's progress? 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean big all the time. 148 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, I was looking at going 149 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 5: to Clemson too, So I mean I definitely was watching it. 150 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 5: And there's a whole bunch of Georgia people from Clemson, 151 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: Like I know so many people on Clemson. So obviously 152 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 5: I'm turning the game on all the time to turn 153 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 5: whenever I could to watch Clemson. So yeah, I definitely 154 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 5: kept up a lot of well cle his career. 155 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: So, Miles, since you were taken before DJ, were you 156 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: thinking going into the second round? Hey, DJ, Turner is 157 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 2: still there, but that would be awesome. 158 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: I literally what I was saying was the front office 159 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: notes who they want, so they're gonna take soe. I know, 160 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: I have no say, but you know, it'd be nice 161 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: to have them, but they gonna take who they want. 162 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: So that's little what I was saying. 163 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: They go on. 164 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 5: You know, you have no Yeah, you have no saying 165 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 5: what's going on? 166 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: You just waiting for that call. That's all you care about. 167 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: So now that it's happened and your teammates hopefully for 168 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: many many years to come, how cool is this? DJ? 169 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: I mean great plans to do big things here and 170 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 5: so you know definitely both us playing in and locked 171 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: in trying to learn to play a book and you know, 172 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: ready to go. 173 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: Do you find it pretty quol as well? Miles? 174 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: I do? 175 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, just uh it's good to know like that, 176 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: I'm familiar, already familiar with someone. And then our families 177 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: are familiar with another person's family, so they're for sure 178 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: gonna I guess once they're trying to figure out the 179 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: parents section, they're going to be trying to coordinate how 180 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: that is? 181 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: So I saw a quote where Miles mom called your 182 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: dad Drago, which I know a lot of your friends do. 183 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: Are you going to call him Drago or do you already? 184 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: I just say DJ because I say DJ or mister Drago, 185 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: Like that's that is what I say. 186 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I like, how DJ is my name? That's 187 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: that's how as that's my dad name. 188 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: So like that's why you're DJ because people call your Drego. 189 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: Right right, So he's literally Dreco. 190 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 5: So but then there's like three d days on the team, 191 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: and then from from high school and stuff, you know, 192 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 5: people in college and all that, people call me one 193 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 5: Jargo Drego one. You know, once people find out my 194 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 5: real name and not take off. But you know, yeah, 195 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: I'll go on all of them. 196 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,119 Speaker 2: From childhood buddies or at least acquaintances to NFL teammates, 197 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: Miles Murphy, DJ Turner, it's really cool. Great to have 198 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: you both on the team. 199 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Desert. 200 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: By the way, if you haven't seen the picture that 201 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: I mentioned in that conversation, just do a search for 202 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: Miles Murphy DJ Turner childhood photo. It's the first image 203 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: that will pop up. 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After that, the players are off for 213 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: more than a month before training camp gets underway in 214 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: late July. For a look at how things stand right now, 215 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: I caught up with a broadcast partner, Dave Lapham. Let's 216 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: talk about the approach that Zach Taylor is taking this offseason. 217 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: A lot has been made to the fact that the 218 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: Bengals are not holding the maximum number of practices. They're 219 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: probably holding less physical practices than any other team in 220 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: the NFL. What do you make of it? 221 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 6: I think that the players feel like Zach's taking care 222 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 6: of them, so they're going to take care of him. 223 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 6: I think that you know, they're putting forth maximum effort 224 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 6: at every single practice. I think they feel like they 225 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 6: have a coach that gets it and they're going to 226 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 6: do everything they possibly can to have success for that 227 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 6: football coach. And you know, it's interesting to me because 228 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 6: I look at some of it and so many guys 229 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 6: have chips on their shoulders. You know, there are guys 230 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 6: that want new contracts, so they're gonna give ultimate maximum 231 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 6: effort and performance. I think Jamar Chase has a little 232 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 6: bit of a mentality like, man, I missed those games 233 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 6: last year due to injury. You know, I'm gonna come 234 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 6: back and have a monster year this year, feeling like 235 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 6: a little bit of regret that he wasn't there, you know, 236 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 6: down the stretch, not due to anything other than injury 237 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 6: obviously that you can't control. But for guys have different 238 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 6: reasons to go out there and just put forth tremendous 239 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 6: effort and set themselves up for the best possible season 240 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 6: they can have. So I think it's shown itself on 241 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 6: the football field. 242 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: So when they started oh and two last year, a 243 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: lot of people were like they didn't hit enough in 244 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: training camp. Guys needed to play in the preseason more 245 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: than they did well. They ended the season with a 246 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: ten game winning streak until losing to Kansas City in 247 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game. Do you think that reinforced in 248 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: Zach's mind that this is the right approach. We do 249 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: need to start better than zero and two. But the 250 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: bottom line is we finished the season relatively fresh, relatively healthy, 251 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: and we're within two minutes of Whenning are going back 252 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. 253 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 254 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 6: And I think part of that own to start, and 255 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 6: you know, the slow start in general, losing the first 256 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 6: three division games and everything. You know, Joe Burrow is 257 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 6: coming off with pendicitis and and now that's the straw 258 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 6: that stirs the drink. And uh, you know, I really 259 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 6: salute him for playing. You know, he was he was 260 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 6: not the Joe Burrow that we're seeing, you know, at 261 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 6: one hundred percent obviously, but he still performed at a 262 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 6: very good level. But it wasn't it wasn't his best level. 263 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 6: And once he rounded in the form off, they went so. Yeah, 264 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't I don't think you throw the 265 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 6: baby out with the bathwater, you know, I think you 266 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 6: I think you just still stay with what's your belief 267 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 6: is the best way to approach it, because I tell 268 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 6: you from experience, and it's even more so now. The 269 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 6: same number of games, but you know, change the preseason 270 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 6: games to the regular seas. It's a long season. It's 271 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 6: just a grind, it really is. And I think this 272 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 6: football team has positioned themselves exceptionally well from a roster standpoint. 273 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 6: And you know, if you can you handle that variable 274 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 6: that nobody can hit. You can't control the injury variable, 275 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: you try as best you can to control it, and 276 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 6: Zach fields this is the best way to do it. 277 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: They've signed a ton of free agents over the last 278 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: three or four years. Money is obviously the bottom line 279 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: and free agency. But do you think this approach really 280 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: taking care of the guys so to speak, pays off 281 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: when he comes to free agency. 282 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, because there are no secrets in the league, you know. 283 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 6: I mean, everybody has friends on every single team, and 284 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 6: there's no doubt that I think. I think Zach Taylor 285 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 6: is universally known around the National Football League as quote 286 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 6: a player's coach. You know, a guy that is going 287 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 6: to take care of the players, isn't going to, you know, 288 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 6: burden them unnecessarily. Ego lists that it's all about the players. 289 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 6: They're going to do everything they possibly can as a 290 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 6: coaching staff to put the players in the best position 291 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 6: they possibly can to perform at the highest level they 292 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 6: possibly can and win as many games as they can. 293 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: I know there have been discussions among the coaching staff 294 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: about whether guys should play in the preseason this coming year, 295 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: at least a few series in one of the games 296 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: or something like that. But then we learned last week 297 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: that they're going to have a joint practice with Green 298 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Bay before that preseason game, just one this time, not two, 299 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: since we saw what happened in the second practice of 300 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: the Rams last year. But when I saw that, I figured, well, 301 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: there's probably where your starters are going to see your 302 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: action or see their action. It's probably not going to 303 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: be in the actual preseason games. Again, did you feel 304 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: the same way I did? 305 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: You know? 306 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 6: When I saw that they were coming in. Coach Lafleura 307 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 6: and Zach obviously have a very keen understanding of each other, 308 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 6: and they totally trust how each other are going to 309 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 6: handle that joint practice and they'll get really good work 310 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 6: in without going over the top as such as what 311 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 6: happened in day two against the Rams. But yeah, when 312 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 6: when I saw heard that they were going to have 313 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 6: that joint practice, it came to the same conclusion you did. Said, Okay, 314 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 6: preseason game number one against Green Bay, I know you're 315 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 6: not going to see very many starters for sure, if 316 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 6: any and everything's going to be taking place scripted, go 317 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 6: after it, and I think both teams will practice at 318 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 6: a very high level. Now they won't, they won't, you know, 319 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 6: probably take people to the ground. There may there may 320 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 6: be a period or two where it's full all out 321 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 6: and some of those workouts that's been the case, take 322 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 6: them to the ground. But I think I thought they 323 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 6: got really good work against the Rams last year, other 324 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 6: than obviously when it got out of control with guys 325 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 6: taking helmets off each other's heads and squatting at them 326 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 6: and all that kind of thing. Other than that we 327 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 6: take that part of it away, you know, it was 328 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 6: pretty good football. And I think that'll be the same 329 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 6: against the Packers for sure. 330 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: So this is still a voluntary phase. Most of the 331 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: guys have been here at least for some of the 332 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: time during these voluntary workouts. We've got mandatory workouts coming 333 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: up next week. Do you think Jonah Williams will be 334 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: here for the start of the mandatory period. 335 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: I do. 336 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 6: I think, uh. I think Jonah is uh, you know, 337 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 6: he's coming. He's rehabbing, coming off that surgery. So even 338 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 6: if he's here, I'm not sure how much he's going 339 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 6: to be able to do anyway, but I think he 340 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 6: will be here. You know, I'd really be surprised if 341 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 6: he's not. Let me put it that way. Knowing him 342 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: to the extent that I do, and I think that 343 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 6: Frank Pollock and uh and Zach and probably everybody, uh, 344 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 6: you know, Coach Callahan, everybody involved, you know, feel like 345 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 6: there's a good chance that Jonah will be here for 346 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 6: those uh those mandatory practices, and I would be very 347 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 6: surprised if he. If he wasn't. Stranger things have happened, 348 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 6: you know, but I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think, uh, 349 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 6: he and his partner had a baby as well, so 350 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 6: there's that newborn involved and rehabbing, so he's decided to 351 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 6: spend time, you know, in that process taking care of 352 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 6: him himself and his family instead of being here in 353 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 6: the in the voluntary workouts. 354 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: It is voluntary, so for anybody that gets on a 355 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: guy thinking it's a sign of a bad, bad attitude 356 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: or something like that. I think that's overblown. There's a 357 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: reason there's voluntary periods and there are mandatory periods. And 358 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: another thing to keep in mind when it comes to 359 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: the voluntary periods, the guys on their second contract are 360 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: highly incentivized to be there. They get big bonuses for 361 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: showing up for the offseason workouts and so forth. So 362 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that those guys are not, you know, 363 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: being great team players, but they are being compensated to 364 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: be here. 365 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 6: There's no doubt, you know, and you don't. You don't 366 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 6: want to get nicked, you know, you don't. I think 367 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 6: you can be maybe you can't be fine, but you're 368 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 6: certainly not going to get the money that you could 369 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 6: have you could have collected by by showing up. And 370 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 6: I don't know Jonah. To me, he's I'm not saying 371 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 6: he's a throwback from a mentality standpoint, but I think 372 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 6: you know, obviously he had had an initial reaction and 373 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 6: a disappointment and all that that you can understand. But 374 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 6: I think when push comes to shove, Jonah Williams is 375 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 6: a consummate team player, and you know, I mean, you 376 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 6: go to the right tackle position and show that you 377 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 6: can play it. He's still going to be making you know, 378 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 6: a lots of money, double digit millions, you know, in 379 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: that contract year. And you go out there and you 380 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 6: show that you can play left tackle and you can 381 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 6: also play right tackle in the National Football League, that's 382 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 6: going to do nothing to take take away your value 383 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 6: as a football player in the offensive line. It's going 384 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 6: to enhance it. 385 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the guy that took his spot at 386 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: left tackle, Orlando Brown Junior. He's a proven player, four 387 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion, He's a gigantic man. 388 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: I am amazed by the person. He is the most amiable, friendly, 389 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: happy guy I think I've ever met. What a great 390 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: addition to the locker room. 391 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 6: He really is. I mean, he's always got a smile 392 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 6: on his face. I mean he's positive in every every 393 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 6: single way that you can be from football, not only football, 394 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 6: but life in general, you know. I mean, he's he's 395 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 6: just one of those guys. He's a he's gonna be 396 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 6: a huge asset on the football field, in the locker room, 397 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 6: in the community. He's they broke the mold and he's 398 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 6: one of those guys that is a rare, rare human 399 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 6: being and he gets it. He gets it on every 400 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 6: single level. Uh and and he has the it factor, 401 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 6: you know, And it's like when you have it, you 402 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 6: might understand that you have it and you don't want 403 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 6: to lose it. And people can't really define it, but 404 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 6: they know that that guy has it. And I think 405 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 6: he has that in factor, I really do. 406 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: So the practices have been pretty vanilla so far. There 407 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: hasn't been a lot of offense versus defense. There was 408 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: some seven on seven stuff today. Has anybody caught your eye, 409 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: any of the rookies, any of the free agents, made 410 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: you stand up and say, Okay, this guy's showing me something. 411 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 412 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 6: I think the thing that has impressed me is that 413 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 6: they've played at a high level of intensity. The tempo 414 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 6: has been really good, and nobody has shown that they 415 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 6: don't belong. 416 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: You know. 417 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 6: It's like everybody there, there's there's nobody that's that's out 418 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 6: of position, either from mental error or just getting beaten 419 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 6: physically in some sort of a matchup. It's it's really 420 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 6: been pretty good competition out there, and everything's as advertised, 421 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 6: I think, which is what you're you're kind of looking for, 422 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 6: you know, but seen it in the past, have seen it, 423 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 6: you know, as a player. Guys sometimes you know, look 424 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 6: like Tarzan and and some of these drills and then 425 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, oncome the pads and end up 426 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 6: playing like Jane a little bit, you know. And as 427 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 6: the old saying goes, so the true tesla when the 428 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 6: rubber meets the road, is when the helmets and shoulder 429 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 6: pads come on and they go to training camp and 430 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 6: and then that's the final, the final step that you 431 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 6: have to take. You know, a lot of times, oh 432 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 6: he was in position to make that tackle, Well, all 433 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 6: of a sudden they put on shoulder peasant helmet and 434 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 6: they're not making the tackle. And they might have been 435 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 6: in position, but they aren't finishing the thing. But everybody 436 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 6: right now, when you're looking at it in shorts and 437 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 6: T shirts, every single person out there, from top to bottom. 438 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 6: And that's the one thing that has impressed me, I 439 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 6: think the most so far in the OTAs is the 440 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 6: depth of the roster. I mean, there's nobody that's like, 441 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 6: what the hell is this guy doing here? Everybody belongs 442 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: and I think everybody has something to contribute. 443 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: So last year at this time, we were getting our 444 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: first look at Hayden Hurst in a Bengals uniform, and 445 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: I remember watching him thinking, all right, this guy is 446 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: more fluid than C. J Uzama, similar size, similar speed, 447 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: but just gets in and out of his brakes a 448 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: little more fluidly. Now, IRV Smith Jr. Isn't quite as big, 449 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: but it's another guy where I'm thinking he's a little 450 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: smoother and a little more fluid even than hayden Hurst. 451 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, you see him make plays where 452 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 6: you know, if the balls behind him, that's a tough 453 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 6: catch to make and to turn your body and be 454 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 6: He shows flexibility, he shows strength, he shows athleticism. I 455 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 6: think I think Joe Burrow is going to really really 456 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 6: like having him as an option to throw to in 457 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 6: that passing game with all the receivers that they've got 458 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 6: that he can spread the field with and let earth 459 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 6: Smith Junior work the middle of the football field. And 460 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 6: we've seen, you know, like you said, C. J. Zama 461 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 6: do it, hayden Hurst do it. There's no reason watching 462 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 6: earth Smith, the athletic ability that he has and the 463 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 6: football pedigree, the bloodlines and everything else he has, I 464 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 6: expect him to have a pretty significant season. I think 465 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 6: Joe Borrow is going to really like throwing the ball 466 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 6: to earth Smith Jr. 467 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: It's the first week of June. There's no Burrow extension yet. 468 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: Is there any doubt in your mind that this will 469 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: get done before the start of the season. 470 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: There's not any doubt in my mind, But I guess 471 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 6: would I'd be shocked if it doesn't. 472 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 473 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 6: I guess nothing shocks me anymore, but i'd be I'd be, 474 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 6: you know, surprised that you couldn't finalize because I think 475 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 6: both sides are eager, you know, to get it done. 476 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 6: But it's just a matter of closing the closing the 477 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 6: final gap, you know, and and getting that thing done. 478 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 6: Having negotiated contracts myself, it's the toughest, the toughest part 479 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: of the contract is that final that final step to 480 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 6: get to you know, you start to close the gap, 481 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 6: close the gap, close the gap. There's a give and 482 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 6: take and then then everybody starts, Okay, well that's it. 483 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not budgeting anymore, and just that final 484 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: gap to get it closed, whatever it is. You know, 485 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 6: there's one bargaining point that one side is going to 486 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 6: be you know, firm on and the opposite and on 487 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 6: the other side, and it's just that one final thing 488 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 6: to overcome whatever it may be and to get that 489 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 6: contract consummated. So it's going to be interest. I'm interested 490 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 6: to see who goes who falls first, Herbert or Burrow. 491 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 6: But in my estimation, even if Borrow signs first, I 492 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 6: don't think Herbert gets as much as Burrow. If Herbert 493 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 6: signs first, I think Borrow gets more. If Borrow signs first, 494 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 6: I think then the Borrow is set and then Herbert 495 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 6: will fall in line. I just don't think it's gonna 496 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 6: be one of those deals where all right, well one 497 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 6: will sign, the other one will supersede. I don't necessarily 498 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 6: think that would would be the case, but we'll see. 499 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you put it that way, then there's really 500 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: no reason for a Herbert deal to hold up a 501 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: Burrow deal. Yeah, and Burrow deserves more. His team has 502 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: accomplished much more. Five playoff wins to none, a trip 503 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl to none. Herbert's got the better stats, 504 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: at least in terms of you know, cumulative numbers, but 505 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: Burrow has done more to this point to deserve the 506 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: better deal. 507 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 6: I agree, you know, and I think I think that 508 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 6: is the pecking order. In my mind. The only quarterback 509 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 6: that you know has had more success individually and team 510 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 6: wise is Patrick Maholmes, you know, And I think I 511 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 6: think Joe is Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow. That's in 512 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 6: my mind, that's that's the pecking order. And I'm not 513 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 6: saying there are other great ones. I mean, Lawrence is great, 514 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 6: Hurst is great, there's you know, Jackson's great. But I 515 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 6: think I think Joe Burrow should should fall, you know, 516 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 6: should be the guy right now until Mahomes goes to 517 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 6: the bargaining table again, because right now I think he's 518 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 6: seventh or something in terms of quarterback compensation. But he's 519 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 6: already gone to the table and gotten money and he'll 520 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 6: do it again. But I think Joe Burrow has earned 521 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 6: that place in the ranking system. I really do. 522 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: So. 523 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: We were among the fortunate folks invited to play in 524 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's golf tournament for the Joe Burrow Foundation and 525 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: then attend the after party, which was spectacular, raising hundreds 526 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars. It was remarkable. You know, Joe 527 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: has this saying we all have a responsibility to do good. 528 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: It's not just the saying for Joe Burrow. He lives it. 529 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: And I mean you talk about a twenty six year 530 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: old person that gets it, he is the epitome of that. 531 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 6: He really is. I mean, you know, the thing, the 532 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 6: thing about Joe that resonates with me is, you know, 533 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 6: he does everything with class. You know, he does everything 534 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 6: in a first class basis really, and it's just everything, 535 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 6: everything that he associates himself with is gold. I mean, 536 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 6: he is minus everything. He touches his gold. And you know, 537 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 6: the fans just they just absolutely go crazy for an 538 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 6: opportunity to do something, whatever it may be with Joe Burrow. 539 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 6: I mean a day at training camp with Jimmy Burrow, 540 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 6: Joe's dad goes for you know, forty forty five thousand dollars. 541 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 6: I'm like, what the heck? 542 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: This is great. 543 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 6: But the thing that impressed me haven't been involved in 544 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: a tournament for you know, a good quarter of a century. 545 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 6: With the Down Centerm Association, there's a lot of work 546 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 6: and you know, shout out to Karencottell, who does a 547 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 6: tremendous job for the Down Syndrom Association. Joe's parents put 548 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 6: in so much time and everybody else committee. Those things 549 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 6: aren't easy to pull off, and I thought it went 550 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 6: really well for the first time that they did it 551 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 6: pretty flawless and it was everybody. Everybody really I think, 552 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 6: enjoyed it. 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Before we 560 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: get to my final guest, here's a quick invitation to 561 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: grab your yoga Matt and join who Day on Saturday, 562 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: June seventeenth at nine am for Namas Day Yoga on 563 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: the field at pay Course Stadium. Register now at Bengals 564 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: dot com slash Yoga. It's presented by you by Cotex 565 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: in partnership with Kroger and titled Babe Period Supply Bank. 566 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow hosted his fundraising golf tournament on Monday, and 567 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: a former Bengal standout hosted his on Thursday. Former right 568 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: tackle Joe Walter, who helped the Bengals get to Super 569 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: Bowl twenty three. He's been the host of the Goodwill 570 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: Celebrity golf outing for more than twenty years, helping to 571 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: provide employment and training services for people with disabilities. I 572 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: caught up with Joe before his event got underway. Joe, 573 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: They're on a ton of question marks on the roster 574 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: right now, but one of them is at your former position, 575 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: right tackle. The odds on favorite is probably Jonah Williams, 576 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: but he's played the left side in Cincinnati the last 577 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: three years, hasn't played right tackle since his freshman year 578 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: at Alabama. Do you look at this as a difficult 579 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: move for him to go back from left to right. 580 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 3: I, you know, not really. I think if he's really 581 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: got his mindset right and he's worked at the offseason, 582 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: I think he'll just really good at it. He's got 583 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: that type of mentality. He's a smart guy. But you 584 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: got to work at it right, and if he does that, 585 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: I think it does nothing but help him in the future. 586 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: Let's look at the pool of candidates for right tack. 587 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: You've got Jonah, You've got l Collins, who played the 588 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: first fifteen games last year, but then tores Ac, LMCL 589 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: and PCL on Christmas Eve. You've got Jackson Carman, who 590 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: hasn't had a great start to his first two NFL seasons. 591 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: Then you've got Cody Ford kind of a similar situation, 592 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 2: but he's been in the league longer. Do you feel 593 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: good that out of that pool of candidates they're going 594 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: to get good play from somebody at right tackle? 595 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, competition breeds greatness, right, So you've got four good guys. 596 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: I don't know about Collins with his health right it's 597 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: going to be tougher for him to come back. But 598 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: with the three other Ford, Jonah and just for Jackson Jackson, 599 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: I think that'll be good competition and hopefully they get 600 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: a lot of reps and the coaches can see what 601 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: they've got. But if you want to play and make 602 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: money in the future, you got to be good at 603 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: right tackle. 604 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: So last year they have the same five guys start 605 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: the first fifteen games, and then in three straight weeks 606 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: they lose starters leading up to the AFC Championship game. Unfortunately, 607 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of a deja vu situation for you. He 608 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: suffered an injury in the final game of the regular 609 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: season in eighty eight before the Super Bowl. What did 610 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: you think of how that impacted the Bengals as they 611 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: tried to get back to the Super Bowl. 612 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 3: Oh, it impacts big time, right, you lose three guys. 613 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: I keep telling everybody, Now, this team on paper looks awesome, right, 614 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: but you got to stay healthy. And we weren't healthy 615 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: towards the end of the year last year. Year before, 616 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: we were healthy. So I think it's all about staying healthy. 617 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: I think if the line can stay healthy another year 618 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: playing together, now you're going to have that right tackle 619 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: mix where he's not used to playing with the guard right. 620 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: So they've got to learn that. But hopefully with a 621 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: full training camp and guys out there practicing. 622 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 1: It will be good. 623 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: We'll be all right. 624 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: Did you have a bit of a deja vu flashback 625 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: last year when those got got hurt so late in 626 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: the season. 627 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: A little bit. 628 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. It was tough because I knew what they were 629 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: going through, and I know what I go through even 630 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: today just thinking about not being able to play in 631 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: the big game and in the playoffs. 632 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Or visiting with Joe Walter. What was your reaction when 633 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: the Bengals signed the number one free agent offensive lineman 634 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: available this year in Orlando Brown Junior. 635 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: I was shocked because there was no word. Nobody even 636 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: knew anything, and it just woke up one day and 637 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: there he was, and I went, that was one of 638 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: the largest pickups the Bengals have ever had. And you know, 639 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: hopefully he can stay healthy. And I know he's really 640 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: a smart guy and he's really into it and he 641 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: wants to be great, which is he's got that desire. 642 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: I think we're going to be good. 643 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: After they signed him, Jonah demanded a trade. He's going 644 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: into the final year of his contract. He's only played 645 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 2: left tackle in the NFL so far. Did you understand it, 646 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: did you identify with it? What was your reaction to 647 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: Jonah's reaction. 648 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: You know, my initial reaction was I get it. But 649 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: the more I thought about it that same day, I thought, 650 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: go play right tackleing make yourself even more valuable right 651 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: because if you can play both sides and play both 652 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: sides really well, that's going to do nothing but help 653 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: you next year in free agency. 654 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: How confident are you that the Bengals, who win a 655 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: Super Bowl in the Joe Burrow era very confident. 656 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: I think they've got all the tangibles they need. They've 657 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: got folks on both sides of the ball that can play. Obviously, 658 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: in football you need a little luck and you've got 659 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: to stay healthy. 660 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: We're here at the Goodwill Celebrity Golf outing. You've been 661 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: involved with this for more than twenty years. How did 662 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: you get involved and why have you stayed involved? 663 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: Well, initially I started out, as you remember my Special 664 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: Olympics golf outing, and heck that was twenty three years 665 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: ago too, And so the folks at Goodwill were there 666 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: and they came up and talked to me and asked 667 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: me about it. And you know the reason I do 668 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 3: it is because I did the Special Olympics, because you 669 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: got folks with disabilities that are where than the athletics 670 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 3: part of it, right, And then when Goodwill came along, 671 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: these these folks put folks with disabilities to work, They 672 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 3: train them and then find them jobs, right, So it 673 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: worked hand in hand and it's been a great thing. 674 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: I love giving all the clients hell and I treat 675 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: them like anybody else. I don't baby them, and that's 676 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: what's fun about it. 677 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for all you do. Thanks for the time today. 678 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: Much appreciate it. 679 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: Thanks for coming out, brother, appreciate you. 680 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: That's going to do it for this episode of the 681 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: Bengals Booth Podcast brought to you by Kettering Health, the 682 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: official healthcare provider of the Bengals, by Bengals Picks and 683 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play with tickets and side 684 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: merchandise up for grabs by pay Core, the official HR 685 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: software provider of the Bengals, and by Alta Fiber future 686 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: Proof Fiber Internet elevate your connection with Alta Fiber. 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