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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, guys. EYL Episode twenty.

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Speaker 3: So once again, as we always you know, we have

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Speaker 6: We're just going to keep putt out more content. The

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Speaker 5: That's a fact. That's a fact. So all right.

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Speaker 5: But we do more than that.

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Speaker 3: We do business, We do all kinds of stuff finance related,

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Speaker 3: So all right, So first of all, shout the DMV.

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Speaker 2: He's giving it, I had no. I definitely was ready

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Speaker 5: Okay, they got to go to grad.

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Speaker 6: Which team game with that Cowboys at the time, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not mistaken it with the Dow It was

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, so so now we know how

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Speaker 2: You have to take the test. But it's like it was.

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Speaker 2: I also took the series six and sixty three. It

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Speaker 2: Right, So this is what happened. I got I went

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's and it's crazy because I didn't

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Speaker 2: So now second.

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Speaker 3: So you started your own your own firm, right, yes,

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Speaker 5: How did you?

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Speaker 2: in banking that particular bank. Shout out to P and

437
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Speaker 2: C and CRSID my manager, she was amazing. In that bank,

438
00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,960
Speaker 2: I met my first client, I met my athlete advisor

439
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,960
Speaker 2: at the time, and in addition to that, my investor.

440
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,000
Speaker 2: I worked in a pretty wealthy neighborhood in Montgomery County

441
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,919
Speaker 2: in Maryland, and I literally told every single body that

442
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,919
Speaker 2: was my thing. That's my thing always, like I've been

443
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,440
Speaker 2: passionate from fourteen. Everyone I've ever met are like man

444
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,080
Speaker 2: like he wants to be a sports agent. So like

445
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,200
Speaker 2: now people hit me up, like, yo, you're really doing

446
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,160
Speaker 2: what you said you want to do, because that's everything

447
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,280
Speaker 2: I told everyone, And I think that's something that no

448
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,520
Speaker 2: matter what you want to do, you never know, you

449
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,320
Speaker 2: know who you might meet and run into. And I

450
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 2: wasn't one of those kids. I wanted to do seventeen

451
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,080
Speaker 2: thousand things. So it's like, man, I could help this kid,

452
00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 2: but you know, he's focused on so many things. I

453
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,399
Speaker 2: focused on one things like, hey, I want to be

454
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Speaker 2: a sports agent. And I told every person in that bank,

455
00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,119
Speaker 2: and a guy ended up taking me out to dinner

456
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,359
Speaker 2: and we ended up just linking and really connecting, and

457
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,359
Speaker 2: he was like, man, I don't want any friends, but

458
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,040
Speaker 2: he said, you know, I really want to help you

459
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Speaker 2: build your business. And it was literally a gift from

460
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Speaker 2: guy bro. I can't like, that's how I literally started

461
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Speaker 2: my agency.

462
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's powerful because, like we preach a

463
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Speaker 6: lot about mentorship and how important it is, because you

464
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 6: could have went into this situation not knowing anything, and

465
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 6: you know, you could have been discouraged by that, but

466
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Speaker 6: you're encountered with this person change your life.

467
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Speaker 3: But it also speaks to the fact of a closed

468
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 3: mouth doesn't get fed, right, sure, so blessings come your

469
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,400
Speaker 3: way when you open your mouth, all right, and you

470
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 3: actually say what you want, a lot of times people

471
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Speaker 3: don't say what they want in business and relationships. They

472
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Speaker 3: kind of just hope that the person kind of catches

473
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Speaker 3: the drift. The easiest way to get what you want

474
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 3: is to say what you want and ask for it.

475
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Speaker 3: They might say no, they might say yes, but at

476
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Speaker 3: least you ask for it.

477
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 4: Right.

478
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 3: You kind of beat around the bush and you're scared

479
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 3: to say something. You just kind of hoping something falls

480
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 3: out the sky. It's never gonna happen. So the fact

481
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 3: that you was even vocal about it and putting that

482
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Speaker 3: energy out there, you attracted it. I'm pretty sure to.

483
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Speaker 6: You, right, you spoke some things into existence and they

484
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Speaker 6: appear absolutely.

485
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Speaker 2: I literally talked to hundreds of people that came to

486
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Speaker 2: the bank. You know, think that back then it had

487
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 2: a lot of foot traffic into the bank, so literally

488
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 2: people would come into the bank all the time. So

489
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 2: I would talk to literally everybody. And what I was

490
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: working at was like, I said, a wealthy neighborhood and

491
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 2: you know that seem you know some guys that are

492
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: making really good money. And it was like, man, you know,

493
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,199
Speaker 2: I really like you. And a lot of guys said no,

494
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: they're not interested, or it was just like, you know,

495
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: it is what it is. But in addition to that,

496
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: it's like having people in your corner that is willing

497
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 2: to support you. Like my manager was like, she knew

498
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: I was getting my she knew I was doing well.

499
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: She knew I was talking people about sports, but she

500
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 2: looked at that as my connection to the people. And

501
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 2: in addition to that, she also knew that I wanted

502
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Speaker 2: to be an agent, and then she knew this was

503
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Speaker 2: a stepping Stone. So the people that aren't positive in

504
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 2: your life are also very important.

505
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Speaker 5: All right.

506
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 3: So now you're an agent, you got your own company

507
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 3: up and running, right, Yes, how do you get clients?

508
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 3: This is this is stuff that's always been interesting to

509
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 3: me at least, like how do you get clients?

510
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: So social media is you're always your friend. I mean

511
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: everyone is always on social media. So my first class,

512
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 2: like I said, my first client literally walked into the bank.

513
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: He had been kicked out of school. I helped him transfer,

514
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: getting to another school and he ended up playing in

515
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: the NFL and still placed in the NFL to this day.

516
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Speaker 4: You got him out when he was in college. So yeah,

517
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 4: But I.

518
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 2: Mean I wasn't so as an agent, you can't pay

519
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 2: for players, like you can't do anything. I made connections

520
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: to help him to try to I basically was mentoring

521
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: him through his process because he had just got kicked

522
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 2: out of the University of Maryland and ended up transferring

523
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: to the University of Delaware, and I just he was

524
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: like my little brother. But I didn't, like I knew

525
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: that I was an agent, so I knew that I

526
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: was a buy the book rule, Like I'm that guy.

527
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do anything like it's going to

528
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 2: jeopardize me long term. So but I helped him. I

529
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: helped him navigate through that process and helped his parents,

530
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: helped his mom. I literally actually met his mom because

531
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: she was coming in and open up a business account

532
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 2: and we was just talking about football. She's like, oh,

533
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: I got a son, I want you to really meet him.

534
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 2: And literally one day when the bank was closed and

535
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 2: the drivetor was open, but I still had to stay

536
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 2: their to lock up, we sat in there by for

537
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 2: an hour hour and a half and it's just like, man,

538
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: this dude is going to do. And I didn't know

539
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: he was going to be an NFL player at that time,

540
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: but I just followed him throughout his career. And then

541
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: when it was time from to Mega's Asia decision, I

542
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: was like, man, I've already built a strong relationship with

543
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: this guy. You know, I'm gonna give him a shot. However,

544
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: he was like, man, you know you don't necessary spaceperience.

545
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: So that's where a partnership situation happened. And then I

546
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: ended up doing a partnership, but my company still did

547
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: a like it was a it's called skin in the game, right,

548
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: So as an agent, and I'm not to hope. I

549
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: don't get that too far ahead of myself. You're paying

550
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 2: for the costs from the training, So the minute they

551
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: declare from the NFL draft up until the NFL Draft,

552
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: you flop that whole bill.

553
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 4: So what are some of the expenses.

554
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you're paying for these great training facilities that

555
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: are going to cost you ten.

556
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 5: Twelve, fifteen thousand dollars, like IMG.

557
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: IMG Academy's one EXOS is one of the bigger ones.

558
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: There's one name Performance Compound, AESPI. That's another one, like

559
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: there's a number of bit different fifteen thousands for the week, No,

560
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars throughout that right, so it's eight.

561
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Speaker 3: Week So get you get a client after football season

562
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: is over, right, they commit to you. Now they're your

563
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: responsibility for Was it two months until the draft?

564
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Speaker 2: No, it's a so from January up until at that

565
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Speaker 2: point May was the draft?

566
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Speaker 5: Okay? So five months? Five months? You have the financially

567
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 5: support them. Yes, you pay for their travel.

568
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: Travel, stipend, housing, rental cars, training, training, food, and that's

569
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: pretty much it for the most part for some guys.

570
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: Then there are guys that are gonna get you know,

571
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: marketing and things of that nature, and some guys do

572
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: marketing guarantees and marketing advances and things of that nature

573
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Speaker 2: for guys. So it's a that right now where our

574
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: business stands. Right now in the age of business, a

575
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: lot of kids say, hey, I got these three deals,

576
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: which one do I they that's which one I'll go with.

577
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: Somebody guys said, man, I'm gonna go with this guy

578
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: because I really have a connection with them. Those kids

579
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: are you know, those are the guys that I try

580
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Speaker 2: to go after.

581
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Speaker 4: So are the marketing deals. Traditionally for first rounders.

582
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Speaker 2: It could be for first rounder, it could be for

583
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Speaker 2: a receiver or a running back. Yeah, because they're gonna

584
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: get a trading card deal. They're gonna maybe do some appearances,

585
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: depend upon what school they go to. They may have

586
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: some autograph signings and things of that nature. So you're

587
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: advancing them the money on the on that. But that's

588
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: the only thing basically you get back from that. And

589
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: then basically once you know, once they get drafted, they

590
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: pay you. So it takes you some time to kind

591
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: of get out of that hole.

592
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: So so all right, let me let's just because this

593
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 3: is interesting. So what's the average cause for let's say

594
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: first second round draft pick.

595
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: First second round draft pick is probably gonna cost you

596
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: in upwards of about one hundred, one hundred and thirty

597
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to forty thousand dollars.

598
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: Maybe per player, per player who is, but.

599
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: It all depends on how you do your model. So

600
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 2: there are agencies out there now that don'tly charge one

601
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: percent and they have a certain they pay. Hey I'm

602
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: only capping you at fifty grand. But they're also not

603
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: making as much money on the contract. But they're also

604
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: what they are is they're they're I'm not gonna as

605
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: they're a big agency that gets seven eight guys every year,

606
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: so they're just trying to monopolize and kind of kill

607
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: the young guy or they're not young guy, but the

608
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: smaller agency that doesn't necessarily have the same bankroll, if that.

609
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 5: Makes bank take a little bit, so for sure.

610
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: So but the thing about it is that you're but

611
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: I try to stress to the players, like when that

612
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: guy signs eight of you, he's gonna do the same

613
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 2: thing next year, next year, next year. Think about that.

614
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: Just in three years he's got thirty two clients. And

615
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have a staff to be able to

616
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: service you. But you're not gonna be serviced by a

617
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: guy that recruited.

618
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: You, all right, So all right, So one hundred and

619
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Speaker 3: fifty thousand for let's say a top player right from

620
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Speaker 3: January to February.

621
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Speaker 5: That's you.

622
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: That's your responsibility to pay for it. Right now, you're

623
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: hoping that he gets drafted highly.

624
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 5: Right. The agent's cut is.

625
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 2: Three percent pawn if at this point the NFLPA has

626
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: done something where they put standardized one and a half

627
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 2: percent for every single player. Now you can negotiate up

628
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: to three percent, but some guy's got one percent. Some

629
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 2: guys charge zero percent on the first deal because they

630
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: know they're not going to make any money and just

631
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: do a loan on the guy. And then so like

632
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: it's everybody structures it differently. There's no standardized agent. This

633
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: player costs X, this player costs be. And in addition

634
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: to that, if a player is projected to go tenth

635
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: and he goes fortieth, you know you're looking. You're looking

636
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: at the player like, man, he lose a lot of money.

637
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: That agent's like, man, I'm never going to bete my money.

638
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 6: So when you when y'all in the green room during

639
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 6: the Obviously you get invited to the draft if you're

640
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 6: most likely going to be a first round pick.

641
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: So I am in year six. This is my first

642
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: year in the green room. But there are agents that

643
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: have never really I was talking to a guy yesterday

644
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: who's he's been in the business eighteen years. He's never

645
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: had a guy drafted a higher than fiftieth. I've had

646
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: guys drafted fifty fifth and thirty eighth this past year,

647
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: so I mean, I'm still ahead of the game. But yeah,

648
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: that was my first year in the green room, and

649
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: I had a client that was projected to go top

650
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: fifteen and he ended up falling to thirty eight. I mean,

651
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: he fell into a great position in a great situation.

652
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gonna take us a little bit of

653
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: time to get the money back if that's invested.

654
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Speaker 4: What are the emotions as you sit in that green room,

655
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: because I remember it is I'm getting uncomfortable right now.

656
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: It is the most uncomfortable because I think, like we were

657
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: talking about before, like as an agent, people think you're

658
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: all powerful. You have these relationships. Yeah, these might be

659
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: my friends, but I can't, like, I know one of

660
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: the GMS from a team in the NFC North, for say,

661
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yo, what's going on? What's going on

662
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: my guy? You know he's sliding, he said, Man, I

663
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: heard you know he's gonna go by by this time

664
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: he and that didn't happen. So like, I'm texting people,

665
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: but they don't know what other teams are doing because

666
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 2: it's the thirty two teams that have thirty two different

667
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: draft boards. So I have talked to a number of

668
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: teams that had him projected to go here, but things

669
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: happened and the trickle down effect. So what ended up

670
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: happening this year was Cleveland Ferrell who end up going

671
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: number four to the Oakland Raiders. That was it had

672
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: a tumble effect on everyone projected in the top five.

673
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 2: He was projected to go top twenty twenty five, so

674
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: that ended up having a tumble down effect, and then

675
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: they had a couple off into Linement that didn't go

676
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: until later. We really thought that Cincinnati, Atlanta, we thought

677
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: that those were our hotspots. Once those things are passing.

678
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: I was like, man, and I know we talked to

679
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: these teams in the twenties. Let's see what they talking about.

680
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: Literally texting people from them, but it's like they're not

681
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: going to give you any information because like they don't

682
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: want you to go to another team say hey, listen,

683
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: I know this team is going to do that. Like

684
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: the justice is how the business works. So as an agent,

685
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: you are literally your most powerless during the agent process.

686
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this.

687
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the money of it, right, So

688
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: how do you recoup that one hundred and fifty thousand

689
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: thats you just spent.

690
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: Over the course of the career of this player? So

691
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: my client signed a four year the four year seven

692
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: million dollars and over the course of that, I'll make

693
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: the money back and then you'll be broken.

694
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 5: Are you Are you adding all? Right?

695
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: So let's say you have a one percent fee that

696
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: you're charging the client, right, are you adding something additional

697
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: into that or you're just taking it out of the

698
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: one percent that's just giving it advance.

699
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: If you're if you're gonna if you're gonna give one percent,

700
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: if you're gonna charge one percent, you're not going to

701
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: give a major upfront out pouring depend upon who the

702
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: player is. And there's also, like I said, one hundred

703
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars for players. It's based on players

704
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: that are projected to go top twenty twenty one because

705
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: twenty one is when the fully guaranteed contracts. After that,

706
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: everyone's contract get is a little bit deater down to unguaranteed.

707
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: So he signed a four year, seven million dollars deal

708
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: with four and a half million dollars guaranteed. So we'll

709
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: make our money back over the next couple of years

710
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: of him getting paid. When he gets paid, we get paid.

711
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this.

712
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: It's a gambling it's a gamble.

713
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this too, because so this happens

714
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: Reggie Bush. Yeah, you pay one hundred and fifty thousand

715
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: dollars for a kid the day before the draft he

716
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: changes his mind.

717
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: That other agent or whoever hires him has to end

718
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: up paying you your money back legally, that's how it works. Yes,

719
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: so we signed. In addition to the SRA you sign,

720
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: you are signed. You signed to essay in a representation agreement,

721
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: you also sign a dendums that entitle you to that

722
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: money if you're fired. So the only way I would

723
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: ever get this money back because it's an investment, right

724
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: like the guy Layo Collins Layo Collins was supposed to

725
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: be projected to go top ten. He ended up going undrafted,

726
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: So literally there's nothing his agent can do as far

727
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: as returning getting money back. He just has to play

728
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: the game until it's a point where he didn't get

729
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: his second contract, and then you make your money from there.

730
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Speaker 2: So as an agent, you're kind of just sitting there

731
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: waiting for your guy to get drafted and based on

732
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 2: where they get drafted as a draft slot, and that's

733
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: where you determine how much money they make.

734
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Speaker 6: You said, you said something about after twenty one that

735
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 6: not guaranteed. That was only the impression that first round

736
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 6: picks are guaranteed.

737
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: No, the first twenty one draft picks have fully guaranteed contracts,

738
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: all for skill, cap and injury. So what that means

739
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: is that they cut you for skill, like you're just

740
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: not good enough, if they cut you because you're you know,

741
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: you're injured or whatever the kis can be, or if

742
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: they cut you because your skill, if they have your

743
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: cap casualty. So as a result of hey, we need

744
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: some cap room to pay you know, Colin Kaepernick.

745
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: Right, of course not but yeah, shout out the camp.

746
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 5: So all right, let me. So let's let's let's keep

747
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 5: it real. How dirty is it? How dirty?

748
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: Like?

749
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: Could we see these movies and we see we had

750
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: these scandals, people getting paid off.

751
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 5: Can we talk about the dirty side of it?

752
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: Don't I'm not I'm not one to name any names.

753
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: I'm not one. I'm going to talk to you guys,

754
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: just like I'm presenting to a young man who may

755
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: ask me this question. At the end of the day.

756
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: This is a very dirty game. And it's a situation

757
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: where you're recruiting a kid and you're trying to sign

758
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: them for his first contrac up to his first contract.

759
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: A lot of times you have to go back and

760
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: re recruit your clients because you have guys that are

761
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: sharks that have been out of the business or been

762
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: in the business for a while. They've done great contracts

763
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: for these guys, so hey, let me go pick a guy.

764
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Speaker 4: Now.

765
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Speaker 2: It's the point where a lot of guys what what

766
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: agents are doing, what agents have done for years, is

767
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 2: they pay current some of their current clients to go

768
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: recruit for you. Talk to your teammate. If you're unhappy

769
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: what it is, say I'll give you something on the side.

770
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: So it's it's dirty in the capacity. But the idea

771
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: of it is is that it's agents fighting against agents.

772
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: It's they're just trying to give out the better deal

773
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: because you gotta taken sideration. If you sign a guy

774
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: on an SRA for you know, when you first sign

775
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: him and you put up that upfront investment, may you

776
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: trying to get on a second contract. You already got

777
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 2: the money. You may not necessarily have to give him

778
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: any money in order to sign him. So I mean

779
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: it gets dirty and that.

780
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Speaker 3: So like play out of college, right, that aren't supposed

781
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: to be able to take anything. What are some of

782
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: the things that they take?

783
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: So what now is probably popular in the agent business

784
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: is that agents not smart enough to not give money

785
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: to players directly. Like when I was saying I was

786
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: investing a certain amount of money, that's once they're signing there, yes,

787
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: But now what they're doing is that they use financial

788
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: advisors or runners in the capacity to pay these guys.

789
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: And it's just like hey, I'll give you a loan.

790
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to give this guy a loan

791
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: or pay this guy. Say say you're a top player,

792
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: and somebody say, hey, I'm gonna fifty thousand dollars and

793
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: then once he returns, once he you know, comes out

794
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: and signs with you, you'll pay me back that kind

795
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: of thing. So it's because those guys aren't regulated by

796
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: the NFL fund, by the NFLPA, we're regulated. So if

797
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: we do get caught doing something like that, we can

798
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: lose our license, be Bard. There'd be all types of

799
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: things depending upon what state. Alabama will throw you in jail.

800
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: Like it's could be the real.

801
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 6: And that is Alabama for the past five years has

802
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 6: been pretty much the NFL.

803
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: Oh in a lot of ways. Sure, yeah, for sure,

804
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: and but I mean it's there. But you got to

805
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: also take situation that some guys represent coaches, So I

806
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: represent Nick Saban or this guy or that guy. Hey,

807
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: you know that's a connection. But I mean that's good

808
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: business per se because you have a referral process. But

809
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: it's it's harding for harder for a young agent or

810
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: agent like myself trying to kind of you know, develop

811
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: his business in that cassy. And I mean I have,

812
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: like I said, I have eight clients in the NFL

813
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: currently and I'm you know, continue to try to build

814
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: that business and things that and so it's like my

815
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: mom asked me. She's like, well, they're out here recruiting

816
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: your guys or the second contract guys, why don't you

817
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: go out there. That's really just not my like I would.

818
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: I would sign a guy on a second contract if

819
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: it comes from referral. But I'm not about to pay

820
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: if I got to pay you in order to sign

821
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: with me, I got to pay you to keep you,

822
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: Like I'm not. I'm not in the business of paying players.

823
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: I feel like I add. My goal is to add

824
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: value to these players' lives and to help them and

825
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: help them be successful men, and them to realize the

826
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: NFL's a business. Some things your money can't buy exactly,

827
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: and the NFL is a business, and these players are products.

828
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: And once that product becomes effective, you are thrown away

829
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: and shifted to the side. And these agents that are

830
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: calling you right now, a lot of times you can't

831
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: even get in touch with them.

832
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad you said that because the NFL, you know,

833
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 6: the average contr the average career is very short.

834
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

835
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 6: So my thing, my question to you is do you

836
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 6: have aspirations of going to Major League Baseball or NBA.

837
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: No, I have a player's hard like I was saying,

838
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to be an NFL player, so this is

839
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: my best job to live. Y cares to my clients,

840
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: and it's a situation where I want to see like

841
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: it's bigger than me, right, Like I want to see

842
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: young black men do well. I want to see guys

843
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: not fall into the same pitfalls that other guys falling.

844
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to see guys that are successful at fifty

845
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: years old, that developed relationships while they were in the

846
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: NFL and now they're using them to become big, successful businesses.

847
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: That's what I try to preach to my guys is

848
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: about you know, I told people what I want to

849
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: do at fourteen the earlier. You know what you want

850
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: to do. Especially playing in the NFL, you have the

851
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: best options to go in, be successful and go. You know,

852
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: if you're say you played for the Buffalo Bills or

853
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: New York Giants, whatever the case may be, and you

854
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: want to work in finance or you want to do this,

855
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: there's not too many people that aren't going to call

856
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 2: you back at least have a meeting with you, develop

857
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 2: those relationships, build up that resume that says something other

858
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: than punt block or tackle and you know you can

859
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: be a successful transition. I mean the NFL. I can

860
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: tell you all the time. It's a head start in life.

861
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: It's not for long. NFL not for long.

862
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, so now we're going to the next segment.

863
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: But before we do, I just had one one quick question.

864
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: So right now, you first you mention your first client

865
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: in the bank. But right now you're a season agent

866
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: where you're meeting clients every single you're getting new players

867
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: every single year.

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Speaker 5: How do you recor play? Is now like what's your probress?

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Speaker 2: So now I have relationships with scouts. So like there's

870
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: the structure. So everyone knows the NFL structure from the

871
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 2: coaching side, right, so you know you got your head coach,

872
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: you got your assistant coaches, receiver position coaches. You also

873
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: have that in the scouting community. You have the general manager,

874
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: you have the assistant GM, you have Director of college Scouting.

875
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: You have scouts that go and scour the things. What

876
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: now I've been able to do is develop relationship with

877
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: those scouts and they say, hey listen, They'll go over

878
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: there area with me and say, hey listen, this kid

879
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: is good. He's gonna go here. He projected here. You

880
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 2: know you should go after this guy, and that's how

881
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: I kind of determine who I'm gonna go after.

882
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 5: And then but how do you reach a player?

883
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Social media is key to success for a lot of guys.

884
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: So you like sliding d Yeah, I mean sliding dms,

885
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: I mean reverse look ups. I mean I've done things

886
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: like you may have a mother on your bio right

887
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: at the end, and it's like, hey, I can google

888
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: his mom. LinkedIn is always great. I can send an

889
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: email to his mom, do things like that. But I

890
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: mean there's different ways to ask.

891
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: These are things that people don't think about, right. It's

892
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: like it sounds simple, like okay, but how do you

893
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: It's like, how do you get in touch with a player?

894
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think outside the box and you got to

895
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: realize most emails. It's the same thing with the bank

896
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: thing and telling people I want to be an agent.

897
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Speaker 2: I got way more news than I got, yes, But

898
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Speaker 2: when I was able to get a meeting, I was like,

899
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 2: all right, cool, at least I feel good about the meeting.

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Speaker 5: Do you show up at schools?

901
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: No, I'm not one to go and bombard you and

902
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: things of that. That's just not who I am. I

903
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: don't have that like New York mentality.

904
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: For the lack of better words, You're not on the sideline.

905
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not really that God that's gonna be

906
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 2: like yo, clan, let me how at you for a second.

907
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: I need to do it some type of casual and

908
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: I want to have some type of relationship with someone

909
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: next to you in order to build that relationship, like

910
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: maybe I'm mean an uncle or do something like that.

911
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: And those are typically how my clients have come through

912
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 2: referrals or and for a situation where I've known someone

913
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: that's connected to them, or if it's like one of

914
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: my scouts can be like yo, like my guy, my

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Speaker 2: You get on Cody Ford, and Cody Ford was a

950
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: client of mine this year wind up getting drafted. Teked around.

951
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: He was like, man, he's gonna be a really good player,

952
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: and throughout the draft, like, like I telling you, this

953
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: is a very difficult time to watch your client fall

954
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: through the draft. But like even afterward, I was getting

955
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: text from scouts like, don't worry. He fell into a

956
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: great spot. You know he's gonna have a great career

957
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 2: and it's gonna take a little bit of time, longer

958
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: time to make your money back as an agent and

959
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: as a as a you know, an independent or a

960
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: smaller agency. I mean we're a mid sized firm, but

961
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: like it's a little bit different on your bottom line

962
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: than it is that a CIA or some of the

963
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 2: major agencies. When they get a guy that fell those

964
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: rounds that you know they already had six other draft

965
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: picks they got drafted in the first round.

966
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Speaker 4: Your value, I mean, you're not as evoyant.

967
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: No, for sure, but they signed six, seven, eight, guys

968
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: every year.

969
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: So it's all right, cool, So now we're going to

970
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Speaker 3: go into the next level as far as taking the

971
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: business to the next level, scaling and different challenges that

972
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: you face as as an African American agent. All right,

973
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: so you're an agent, right, We went through the process

974
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: of what it takes to be an agent. We went

975
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: through the process of you know, being an agent. But

976
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: there's challenges in the agent business, like well businesses, right,

977
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: So what are some of the challenges that you face

978
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: as a young person as an African American male?

979
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: Right?

980
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: Even though the sport is driven by African American players

981
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: and we've made strides in the agent business, there's still

982
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: the majority of the agents are still white, right, Yeah,

983
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: so it's still a flip, like even on the ownership side,

984
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: on the management side all of that stuff where the

985
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: players are black, but the other side of the table

986
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Speaker 3: is majority.

987
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Speaker 6: So they have they put the Rooney rule in place

988
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 6: for the owners, but there's nothing in place.

989
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: For the agencies or general managers general managers, right, yeah,

990
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: so that's owners. Yeah, so no, not at all. So yeah,

991
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: that's it's it's there's some difficulties as far as being

992
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: a black agent. I mean, like we were talking earlier,

993
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: Rich Paul was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, So

994
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: Lebron and his effect him being like, you know, the

995
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: greatest player or you know, one of the greatest players

996
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 2: in basketball and kind of having his team around him

997
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: being black. I think that's helping us and changing the

998
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: way people are thinking, because like, man, those black guys

999
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: can do it, why can't you know, give a guy

1000
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: a shot. And agents have done pretty well, and there's

1001
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: some black guys that have done really well, like Eugene

1002
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: Parker was one of the most well respected agents. He

1003
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: recently a couple of years ago he passed. But I

1004
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: mean there's been trailblazers in that capacity. But there are

1005
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: still players that want to sign with white agents because

1006
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: they see white general managers and they see white scouts

1007
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: or white bit like. So the scouting community we talked

1008
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: about earlier is I would say a good portion white,

1009
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: So I mean they understand that, so they think white

1010
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: guys like to do business white guys. But I mean

1011
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: we've we've we have some agents that are doing pretty well.

1012
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, I've had some couple of draft picks,

1013
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: some got a guy who's coming up on a major

1014
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: second contract James Bradberry for the Panther. So like, I mean,

1015
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: we're we're gonna be okay, but it's gonna take some time,

1016
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: and it's gonna take more and more guys that are

1017
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: of stature to hire a black agent and be in

1018
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: front of that black and you know what I'm saying.

1019
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I want to talk about that Lebron effect

1020
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: if we could just for a minute. So Lebron, that's

1021
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: one of the things, even with you know, Ridge Paul

1022
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: and Avacada and all of this stuff that he does

1023
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: with his team. How has that I mean, you talked

1024
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: about it briefly, but do you feel the effect of

1025
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 3: like seeing a Ridgeport Anybody's not MANI of Rige Paul's

1026
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: Lebron's agent.

1027
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 5: He's also Anthony Davis's agent.

1028
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 6: He's on a cover of Sports Illustrated today because they

1029
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 6: know that this is his summer, this is the most important.

1030
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: He's on the cover Sports Illustrated because he's one of

1031
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: the most influential sports agents period and definitely in basketball.

1032
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: So to see a young young black man, I think

1033
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: he's like in his early thirties, do you.

1034
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 5: Feel that help you as far as when you go

1035
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: talk to clients.

1036
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, Lebron is well respected, so

1037
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: I think that you know, him having a black agent

1038
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: helps him in the NBA side for sure. The NFL side,

1039
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: I think there are some black agents that have done

1040
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: pretty well for themselves. But I don't necessarily if everybody

1041
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: has a different criteria. So you know, you just have

1042
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: to find the guys that are willing to accept the

1043
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: fact that you're black or you know, and build off

1044
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: your resume. And I think that my clients see me

1045
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: as a young black guy at too. It's still hip

1046
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: and we still you know hip, please God, needless to say,

1047
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: it still understands the hip hop generation understands, like I'm

1048
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: still we still listen to the same music, you know,

1049
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: I'm you know, trying to get out of this rat

1050
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: race of going after girl after girl, trying to you know,

1051
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 2: take my thing to the next level, you know, And

1052
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 2: and it's a mentorship in that capacity. But I'm still

1053
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: out there, like I still understand what's going on with them.

1054
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, we can relate on a more personal level,

1055
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: but a lot of times the biggest thing is like, hey,

1056
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: what's your you know, criteria, What's what criteria do you

1057
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: have set for the type of agent that you want

1058
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: to sign.

1059
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: You know, Lebron is obviously an icon.

1060
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 6: I think he's one of the greatest businessmans that we've

1061
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 6: ever seen. I think he copy is the great the greatest.

1062
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 6: I like magic in him, and so I don't know that.

1063
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 2: So I heard something about Lebron. If he does a deal,

1064
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: he won't do a deal without taking equity in the company.

1065
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: And I think we all know how important equity.

1066
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

1067
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 6: So like obviously he plays in the NBA, so it's

1068
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 6: a lot more easy. It's easier to market him because

1069
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 6: you can see him for sure, andfl tougher where it's tough.

1070
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 6: But do you see a player out there now that

1071
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 6: potentially could have that type of Lebron effect where it's like,

1072
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 6: you know what, I'm gonna give the fifteen percent to

1073
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: the people I came up with, whether is it like

1074
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 6: a Cam Newton or maybe Antonio Brown or somebody that.

1075
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: So there's a there's an agent that assigned two black

1076
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: quarterbacks back or over just over the black back years.

1077
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson and Dwayne Haskins both have black quarterbacks, So

1078
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna have to be from a quarterbacks side, we

1079
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 2: have to get to the quarterbacks. They get the biggest content,

1080
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: they have the biggest contract, and they have the most FaceTime.

1081
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 5: So what about barb receiver. It's like Odell Beckham.

1082
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham has not black so yeah, I mean, yeah,

1083
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: everybody has his agent. Yes, Jarvis Landry had a black agent,

1084
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: so it has a black agent. So I mean there's

1085
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: a number of guys that definitely have Like, there are

1086
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 2: more guys out there that have black agents.

1087
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: Well, like from from a talking about this off camera

1088
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: where the NFL is different from the NBA, because you know,

1089
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 3: the average NBA player, right like, even if you don't

1090
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: know sports, you have nothing to do with sports at all,

1091
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: odds all, unless they're like a point called like cal Lowry,

1092
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: We're not even to talk about what happened.

1093
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: He got black, right. I just knew. I just knew

1094
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: he just drink the thing about it. I knew it

1095
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: was hard to shoot behind the backboard. So I was

1096
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: just like, there's who else could do.

1097
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: To Toronto?

1098
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think not to Toronto.

1099
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: But they clapped when Katie got hurt. I don't like that.

1100
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 5: No yet, you know it's always gonna be bad. App Well,

1101
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: it was a.

1102
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: Bunch of them. I heard them claps here in New York.

1103
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: It was unfortunate. It was unfortunate.

1104
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: We've seen Drake almost crying, so we took it hard.

1105
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: So all right, So NBA players easy to spot, right

1106
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: because they're tall, they're lanky, they look like they're different

1107
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: from every other person. NFL players not so much. Right,

1108
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: So you have of the NFL, nobody knows who they are. Yes,

1109
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: they could just walk down Toimes Square and not get

1110
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: recognized at all. That kind of leads to a couple

1111
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: of problems right a marketing. It's hard to market it

1112
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: in a play because you don't know who he is

1113
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: unless he's Tom Brady or Odell back On or something

1114
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: like that. I think also b it leads to a

1115
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: lot of unnecessary spending. Like you said, like a lot

1116
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: of these guys you see in the clubs and they

1117
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: order one hundred bottles because now they're trying to draw

1118
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: attention on themselves. For sure where the NBA player they

1119
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: might do it, they might not, but they don't. They're

1120
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: seven feet tall. They reready know who they are.

1121
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1122
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: And then also just from a failed standpoint of like

1123
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: doing like you see, especially whide receivers, you see him

1124
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: doing like a lot of antics, right. I feel like

1125
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: that's kind of like they need to have attention, right, Okay,

1126
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: So what's your thoughts on that?

1127
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 2: So I think one in three are tied in together

1128
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: when it comes to receivers. So I have a cornerback

1129
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: who's probably one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

1130
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 5: I would say, what's his name?

1131
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: His name is James Bradberry plays for the Panthers recruit

1132
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: I mean he literally guarded all the top guys. I mean,

1133
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: you've got to take the seneration. He three times ago

1134
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: or six times either between six times he tried Mike,

1135
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: Mike Evans, Julio Jones, Mike Thomas and does really good

1136
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: jobs them, And everyone talks about this game against Julio

1137
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: or Julio did the two hundred and twenty four yards.

1138
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: He got hurt within the second drive in a game,

1139
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: so that's why Julio went off. But needless to say,

1140
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: he is a calm outside like he's not like me, me, me,

1141
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: me me. He's the opposite of Jane Ramsey. And I

1142
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: respect Jane Ramsey for what he's done because that's how

1143
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: a lot of guys have shown marketing. They want to

1144
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: show themselves and that's why receivers chat outsinko. He did

1145
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: something today where it said he never spent any money

1146
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: of his NFL money, He's only spent marketing dollars. But

1147
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 2: the idea of it is that he had to put

1148
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: himself on in order to get those marketing dollars. So

1149
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: did become a character. A lot of people will say that,

1150
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: But the idea of it is that he knew what

1151
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: he was doing and he was trying to, you know,

1152
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: build out his marketing side. He had a plan, so

1153
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: with most NFL players. I was listening to a stat

1154
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: by the NFLPA, ninety seven percent of marketing dollars go

1155
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: to the top three percent of the NFL. The NFL

1156
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: we all know the Odell Beckhams, of Tom Brady's, the

1157
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, the you know DeAndre Hopkins, like Ada Green

1158
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: and not even someone so like Julio Jones, Mike Thomas,

1159
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: Mike Evan like all the times I'm talking about. But

1160
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: the thing about it is that they played. They they're

1161
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: the top three percent, So the rest of the NFL

1162
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: is fighting over the last little three percent. So there's

1163
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: a lot of social media deals and things of that,

1164
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: and so there's ways to make money from a marketing standpoint,

1165
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: but a lot of times what they've seen is is

1166
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: that success comes with me, me, me, me me, and

1167
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: that's what the blueprint has been for guys to be

1168
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 2: successful marketing wise. Deon Sanders, I love him to death,

1169
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: but he was definitely But Deon Sanders had a plan,

1170
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: like he knew the biggest things with those guys that

1171
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 2: say me, me me, Like Richard Sherman, I remember having

1172
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: as my business partner. We were having a conversation after

1173
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: that game against Michael Crabtree. He yelled at him and

1174
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: he was like, man, I was like. He was like,

1175
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: that's the worst thing he could do. Is the worst

1176
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: thing positive things? Brand I was like, No, Richard Sherman

1177
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: just became a star. And Richard Sherman went straight off

1178
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: because he was in the camera. It was something to

1179
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: talk about. It was a major game, so everyone was

1180
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: talking about that.

1181
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 4: Is that who stolen's gold chain?

1182
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: No, Michael, that was a key to leave keep to

1183
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: leave is another one who's a great cornerback to get

1184
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: a whole lot of marketing. But the idea of it.

1185
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: This is that he's quiet, kind of cool, like he

1186
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: just does his own thing. So that's but that's it.

1187
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: It's a mean me me. It's like the philosophy exactly exactly.

1188
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: Controversy sells shock valuelve for sure, and you could be

1189
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: a great player, but if you don't really open your mouth, yeah,

1190
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: nobody did.

1191
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely, No one really cares about you unless you're out

1192
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: here of doing that. But by the same token, if

1193
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: you do it, you've got to be able to back

1194
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: it up. Because if Richard Sherman wasn't built the right

1195
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: way and he wasn't about to have a great career,

1196
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: and he also didn't have like the foundation off the

1197
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: side of the like off the field and doing all

1198
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: the other stuff he was doing, he knew like, okay, cool,

1199
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm confident myself at this point. And then he was like,

1200
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: all right, cool, But if you jump out there too

1201
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: early and like, oh man, that's not going to work

1202
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: out well for you. So you just got to be

1203
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: confident in your abilities. But cornerbacks and receivers are typically

1204
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 2: the most confident individuals in the in the room.

1205
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.

1206
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 6: And like you said, I think he used the term

1207
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 6: the rest of the guys they have helmet children absolutely.

1208
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, we were talking about the clubs and things that,

1209
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: like with the NFL, they want you know, we all

1210
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: want to turn pretty women. We want to be seen.

1211
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: So a lot of times what you'll find the NFL

1212
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 2: players are baseball players or anybody else has the biggest

1213
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: chain and the moment bottles. They spend the most money

1214
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: in the clubs because it's a situation where no one

1215
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: knows who they are, so it's like, oh, we got

1216
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: so and so tonight. Like it's like, you know, like

1217
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: they want the the DJ be like, oh, someone buying

1218
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: all them bottles and people look and it's like that guy.

1219
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: But the idea of it is that it doesn't really

1220
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: make sense. And I try to get my clients away

1221
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: from it, and you know, I try to put on

1222
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: seminars and stuff like that to help them to realize, like,

1223
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, you're adequate without having to do all of that.

1224
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: And that's fun at times. Yeah, but the question is

1225
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: is that how do you balance that? And if you're

1226
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: doing that every single night, then there's a problem.

1227
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: So how do you feel afel pressure? Your clients are rich,

1228
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 3: the millionaires, right, No.

1229
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 2: That's what you get it wrong. My clients make ones

1230
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: about a million dollars. However, not all my clients make

1231
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: millions of dollars. So some guys and that's another thing

1232
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: that Brand's talking about that's hard, and I really empathize

1233
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 2: the players. They have the hardest locker room from a

1234
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: workers experience, because I'm twenty two, right, I could be

1235
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent, I could be a baller, you could

1236
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: be the first round pick. You're twenty two, you may

1237
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 2: hell of money. But at the same time, they're competing

1238
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: on and off the field. So if he goes and

1239
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: buys a new building, I got it.

1240
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: Like.

1241
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: That's the issue is that everyone thinks that they're millionaires

1242
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: because they play in the locker room. There's a bunch

1243
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: of guys that are millionaires, but on a fifty three

1244
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: man roster, I think it's average from seventeen to eighteen

1245
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: or eighteen to fifteen, guys are millionaire like guys making

1246
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: millions of dollars. Other guys are mostly on rookie deals.

1247
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: Are kind of the revolving door. The last ten so I.

1248
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 5: Had a fifty two players, only seventeen.

1249
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: Fifty three, And it's depending upon the team. Some teams

1250
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: have more. But I mean, I think I'm told that

1251
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: seventeen and eighteen guys are you know, making millions of

1252
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: dollars on major second contract.

1253
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: It depends what team.

1254
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: Let's go back to that. That's interesting.

1255
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: So out of fifty two players, seventy three fifty three players,

1256
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 3: seventeen let's say roughly have million dollar contracts in a ball.

1257
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 2: Yes, are making millions of dollars.

1258
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 3: So like your stars, a vast majority of NFL players

1259
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: aren't making millions.

1260
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: No, they're making a couple hundred thousand dollars or if

1261
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: they're making a million dollars, they're making just under a

1262
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 2: million or a million dollars. It all depends on every

1263
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: team is a little differently.

1264
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 5: In their careers is very short.

1265
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: Careers are very short, and most guarantee contracts. No, most

1266
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: guys don't get to second contracts. The average career is

1267
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: three to four years, depending upon what position you play exactly.

1268
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks typically stay a little longer the receiver. Some guys

1269
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: stay a little longer. But you literally could go from

1270
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: like I mean not to call someboey out like Corey Coleman.

1271
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: Corey Coleman was a first round draft pick a couple

1272
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: of years ago for the Browns. I think he's on

1273
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: his third or fourth team now and he's trying to

1274
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: make a roster and he's a situation where he's a

1275
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: receiver for the New York Giants. But everyone knows Sterling

1276
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: Shepherd and this guy, you know what I'm saying. So,

1277
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: and the crazy part is that Sterling Shepard and Corey

1278
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: Coleman both came out the same year. So Corey Coleman

1279
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: was the first round draft pick, Stirling was the second

1280
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: round draft pick. Now, Stirling's making way more money than Corey,

1281
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: but Corey got more upfront money, but he thought he was.

1282
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: And you have the too excitations. So being an NFL

1283
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: player is a gift and a curse because everyone around

1284
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: you think you're making so much money. So when you

1285
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: go back home, you like feel like you got to

1286
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: stunt for your family and you know you got cash.

1287
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 6: Request that's seventeen out of fifty three is yeah. I

1288
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 6: never thought of it like that, And I guess depending

1289
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: on the financial structure of the team, it could be

1290
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 6: less right because when you said that, I'm thinking about

1291
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 6: a team like the Patriots, who are very, very stringent

1292
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 6: with their finances right for sure. Right, Tom Brady probably

1293
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 6: is the best player in the NFL, maybe in the

1294
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 6: NFL history, but he's never been the highest paid player.

1295
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: No, But they say that Tom Brady gets a lot

1296
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: of off the field marketing dollars and he puts them

1297
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: that's due to his performance, of course, and Robert Craft

1298
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: puts them on deals like he's getting his money. But

1299
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: it's a situation that nectually come from so under the table,

1300
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 2: actially under the table, but it's a situation where Jerry

1301
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: Jones takes care of a lot of his players, like

1302
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: some of his former players is cut in on business deals.

1303
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I help you out this, Like

1304
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: some owners are really really good from my owner's perservative

1305
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: and helping these guys. And I think a lot of them,

1306
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: I think majority of them aren't that that way for

1307
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: their stars. But not everybody's going to be a star,

1308
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: right And if you're a star too early, say you're

1309
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: a star your second year and then like you tear

1310
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: your achilles your third year or you know what I'm saying,

1311
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: or you're not the same player two years later. You

1312
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: can literally go from being you know. That's why it's

1313
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: like you gotta stay humble and stay focused. And when

1314
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: you get the big contract, that's fine, but now you've

1315
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: got to be able to put it away. And then

1316
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: you got these numbers that get blasted out, and a

1317
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: lot of times they're coming from my agents that want

1318
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: to say, hey, yo, I got this guy as big deals.

1319
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: But when you come back and see the real deal,

1320
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: the numbers they're not nearly as high. It may be, hey,

1321
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: I can get him this all with escalator, but he's

1322
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: got to do X, Y Z in order to get

1323
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: this number. But everyone comes and look at you, and

1324
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: you become the target. So it's like, man, I love

1325
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: to be got it to make twenty million dollars and

1326
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: sit in the corner and nobody know me.

1327
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 6: We got we We have to get you a quarterback, yeah,

1328
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 6: because we got to get you a quarterback. Because this

1329
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 6: week Carson Wentz when you said that if you have

1330
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 6: a great second year and maybe you get hurt and

1331
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 6: Carson Wentz. Now, granted, I think he's going to be

1332
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 6: a phenomenal player, but his team did win a Super

1333
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 6: Bowl without him.

1334
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,959
Speaker 4: He just signed an extension for one hundred and forty million.

1335
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: Because this is a quarterback driven league. You need a quarterback.

1336
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: If you don't have a quarterback, your season is like,

1337
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to do we have to do

1338
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray literally was like, dang, they had Josh Rosen

1339
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: for a year. They drafted Kyler Murray this year because

1340
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: it was like, hey, listen, we need to do this.

1341
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: We brought in his coach. He runs this offense better.

1342
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: So it's still a quarterback driven league. Everything. Every everyone

1343
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: knows like that the quarterback is the key to a

1344
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: successful year in most teams. The Baltimore Ravens, you know,

1345
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: they had trend deaf when they also had one of

1346
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: the best defenses.

1347
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 4: Of all times, of all time, like the Bears that

1348
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: they went they had, oh I thought eighty five.

1349
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, for sure. The other Bears coach, Yeah,

1350
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 2: lovey and all that kind of stuff. I'm trying to

1351
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: think about teams with you know, no quarterbacks being their stars.

1352
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, typically like that, Yeah, like I said, eighteen

1353
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: guys or so, those numbers changed that ben pinball teams.

1354
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: Some guys may have twenty two, some guys may have

1355
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: twenty three, but not all fifty three guys are making

1356
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: a million dollars. They don't have enough money for the

1357
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: salary cap. But I mean they do, but it does,

1358
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: it's not it's a structure based on.

1359
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 4: So I'm in the NBA.

1360
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 6: I know the collective bargain, it's fifty percent of the

1361
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 6: revenue needs to be spent on the player salary.

1362
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not fifty to fifty. Now at this point,

1363
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: what is the NFL's there. I think they're forty five

1364
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: percent and I think the end of the league team

1365
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: is at fifty percent. If I'm not saying they're in

1366
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: a process of redoing this this new CB.

1367
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they're saying that they might have a lockout.

1368
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: So so that's one thing that I think that I

1369
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen, because the NFL, like

1370
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: that lockout was ugly, and I think everybody took their

1371
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: lumps from that, like even though they say the team

1372
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: the league won it and all that kind of stuff.

1373
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: But by the same token, what the issue is with

1374
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: that lockout was it just wasn't good for TV contracts.

1375
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: So now the NFL is coming up on all these

1376
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: TV contracts and they got to renew these things, and

1377
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: they're like, man, if you can't do that, then I

1378
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: need I need you guys to be under CBA before

1379
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 2: we do this deal again. So I think the NFL

1380
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: is pressured to get the players a better deal because

1381
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: they're going to make a better deal back end.

1382
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, the NBA did the deal with T and T

1383
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 6: in ESPN was twenty four billion.

1384
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, NFL's but you gotta realize the NFL is still king.

1385
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm thinking, like,

1386
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 4: if that's twenty four billion the NFL.

1387
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: But it's interesting because the NFL is the most profitable

1388
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: league in professional sports boy out of the three major

1389
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: sports in America.

1390
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 5: The players get paid.

1391
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: The least YEP, but the players also get hurt the most.

1392
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: But by the same token, it's a situation where players

1393
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: contracts need to be shorter. There need to be three

1394
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: year guarantee contracts because that's really what you get when

1395
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: you get a big deal like that. So everyone looks

1396
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: at like, hey, I look at guaranteed money and what

1397
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: you're getting your first three year payoff, because that's really

1398
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: what is what you're really have a good, great chance

1399
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: of making. So like if you're bumming your first Let's

1400
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: say say we take a guy who's signs a major

1401
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: contract and his first year he doesn't play as much. Well,

1402
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: second year he's just terrible. The third years like, all right, man,

1403
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: we paid this guy twenty four twenty five million dollars,

1404
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: let's give him another chance. After that third year, they're

1405
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: willing to kind of watch. So they need to do

1406
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: more structured, fully guaranteed three year contracts. But Kirk Cousins

1407
00:57:59,200 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: did that.

1408
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 4: When you just said that, I'm thinking, like that sounds

1409
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: like Jameis Winston.

1410
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I don't like to say anything

1411
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: bad about players.

1412
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 6: And I mean like, because he's in a position like

1413
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 6: this guy is still Younger Trophy, he's a number one

1414
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 6: overall pick, he's a quarterback, and he's a quarterback, and

1415
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 6: it's like, what do we do because we watched Fitzpatrick

1416
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 6: come in and light it up, and now it's like, wait,

1417
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 6: should we even.

1418
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 4: Start this guy now? You know, So they got some decisions.

1419
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: And now this is down in Miami with Josh rosen

1420
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: Ran on his career potentially. So it's going to be

1421
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: interesting to see how it all shakes out. But needless

1422
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: to say, it's going to be I don't think the

1423
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: CBA is going to be I hope. I think that

1424
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: they're making progress. And from what I hear from the

1425
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: Asian community is that, you know, we probably will have

1426
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: a CBA before. It won't be the lockouts, because that's

1427
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: another thing. Guys were taking lockout loan.

1428
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say before so Dame Dash's

1429
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: cousin forgot his name, but Vince Young had sued him.

1430
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: You know about this, I heard, I think I heard someone.

1431
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Vince all right, So Dame Dash's cousin, he

1432
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: was a financier, something to do with in finance, right,

1433
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: and he started a business during the last NFL lockout

1434
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: where he was loaning guy's money but he was loaning

1435
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: no money at like fifty interest, forty five or crazy interest, right,

1436
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: So Vince Young ends up suing them, and long story short,

1437
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 3: like it all came into the media why he took

1438
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: the loan. He took a loan of like three hundred

1439
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: thousand dollars to pay for his birthday party priorities. Right,

1440
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 3: But it's just disturbing that a number one draft pick

1441
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: would have to take a loan. That means you're living

1442
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: paycheck to paycheck. And that's why I say all the

1443
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 3: time it's not how much you make, it's how much

1444
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: you keep. Athletes live paycheck to paycheck all the time.

1445
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: It's just that their paychecks might be fifty thousand dollars.

1446
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: And by the same talking, they're getting paid over the

1447
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: course of four months. So they got to really stretch

1448
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: that throughout the rest of They gotta be more budget

1449
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: conscious than even teachers or like you know, teachers cant

1450
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: paid them nine months potentially, and they had that three

1451
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: months law or whatever. They have that four months and

1452
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: other than like OTA's are making coming and now they

1453
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: have the player performance when they get a piece of that.

1454
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: But for the most part, that eighty percent of the income,

1455
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: it's going to come from that base salary during the season.

1456
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: You're during the season, and it's gonna add over seventeen

1457
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: weeks pay taxes, So you're living like a king when

1458
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: you're in season. There's a lot of broke NFL players

1459
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: that played last season right now. I'm sure because it's

1460
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: just but it's it's things like you said, like it's

1461
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: the financial education is not taught in the school. It's

1462
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: not taught you know when you get it's try they

1463
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 2: try to teach you when you get to the NFL.

1464
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: But at that point in time, these guys have to

1465
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: literally sit back and look and man and say, listen,

1466
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: I may not live I mean, I'm gonna live a

1467
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: lot longer than I play football. And I try to

1468
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: tell my guys all the time, like you could live

1469
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: like a king for a couple of years while you're

1470
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL, or you could live like a prince

1471
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life. I mean, there's a

1472
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: lot of different things you can do to save your money.

1473
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: Like I mean, you're boys talking about, you know, in

1474
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: real estate, and that's really you know, where a lot

1475
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: of guys can go back and invest into their college

1476
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: towns and stuff like that. Those are the kind of

1477
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: things that you really want to start to get your

1478
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: money to work for you because right now all you're

1479
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: doing is basically bringing on these checks in and spending.

1480
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: And some guys are scared to you know, do investments

1481
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: or things like that, but just gets a regular savings

1482
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: account and live off. Like I always tell the guys like, hey, listen,

1483
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: you're in a you're in an NFL city, look at

1484
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: the average income, live above the average, and you live

1485
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: a good life. Like and a lot of the stuff

1486
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 2: during the season is paid for and like, but they

1487
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: do have some I mean some other expenses, Like you know,

1488
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: if they get cut, they have to transport their car, like,

1489
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: so they have some other outside expenses. And in addition

1490
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: to that, they sign leases and you know, they try

1491
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: to sign leases that you know will let you out

1492
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: if you get cut or and the teams try to

1493
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: do a lot, but they can always do more. But

1494
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: by the same token. At this point in time, it's starting.

1495
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: You know, you can't blame that person, blame this person.

1496
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: You got to take an incentive to say, Man, I

1497
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: want to be successful. I want to have money when

1498
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: I leave the NFL. I don't want this to be

1499
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: the highlight of my life. I want this to be

1500
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: a stepping stone to something greater.

1501
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 5: Nah man, that's powerful.

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Speaker 3: Chris Man, we want to thank you for coming on

1503
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 3: before before we wrap this up, I want to say

1504
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 3: how this actually came about, because I think it's important

1505
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: for people to understand what the power of networking. So

1506
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 3: Chris and I actually just got introduced four hours ago.

1507
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, so another gentleman, Allan shout out to Allen.

1508
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 3: He follows us on Instagram and follows the podcast and

1509
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: he was saying, like, you know, I got a guy

1510
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 3: that I think that would be good for you to meet.

1511
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 3: I know you're a financial advisor, he's an agent. So

1512
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, cool, let's connect. So he text

1513
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: he put us in a group chat text today, yeah,

1514
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: at two o'clock. At two o'clock is like eight o'clock

1515
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: right now, and he was like, you know, you guys

1516
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 3: should meet. So Chris has an event this weekend. He

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01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: invited me to and he's like, let's talk tonight, like

1518
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: eight o'clock if that's cool. So I'm like, yeah, we

1519
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: could talk, but we actually are filming the podcast in

1520
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 3: midtown Manhattan and Chris is uptown in Halem. So I'm like,

1521
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: if you want to come by just to vibe out

1522
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: with us and we could talk right after the podcast.

1523
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: He's like, all right, cool. So we're supposed to interview somebody,

1524
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 3: and long story short, the person that he was supposed

1525
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: to interview he had to cancel. We had a family emergency,

1526
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 3: so he had to cancel, like at the last minute.

1527
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: So Chris was already on his way, so I called

1528
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 3: him like, look, we're already down here, do you want

1529
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: to interview you know what I mean, Like, I mean,

1530
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: I think it'll fit you a sports agent. We talk

1531
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 3: about sports all the time. So do you want to

1532
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: do you want to interview it? He's like, yeah, why not?

1533
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: So I say that to say, first of all, Earn

1534
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 3: your Leash is based on a true story, Like it's

1535
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: really this is really.

1536
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 5: Like real life right, Like it's like real life story.

1537
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 3: But also it's just the power of you never know,

1538
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: like you never know, like that's a random story, but

1539
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: it's happened, like we just literally just connected a couple

1540
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: of hours ago and now he's on the podcast, so

1541
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 3: you just it wasn't playing right. But the thing about

1542
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: it is a you have to always be ready for sure,

1543
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 3: because you were ready to give an interview.

1544
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: I mean, my girlfriends like you.

1545
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: Gotta always be ready, and you just always got a

1546
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: network and meet people, because he could have just not

1547
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: even answered that text message and then he would have

1548
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: never been on the podcast.

1549
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: And listen with having a few I'm like, am I

1550
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: qualified less?

1551
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 8: Guy Hervart But that's the But that's the good thing

1552
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 8: about the podcast too, is that it's a broad range

1553
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 8: of people, from young people to old people, from sports

1554
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 8: to music to banking to investments to real estate, because

1555
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 8: we want to cover every aspect of finance and we

1556
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 8: want to talk to every every people too.

1557
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: But like I was telling actually Allen when I spoke

1558
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 3: to him on the phone, that for a guy like

1559
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: last week our guests last week right when he actually

1560
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: Derek Ferguson when he told us that he learned from

1561
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: our podcast. And this is a guy that went to

1562
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: Harvard Warden. He's Diddy's right hand man, he ran Revolte

1563
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: all of this stuff that's crazy, but people like him

1564
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 3: listen to the podcast. Then we got people that just

1565
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 3: came home from jail that listened to the podcast, right,

1566
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: And it's really for all of us and everywhere in between.

1567
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: So it's like it's it's dope to see that our

1568
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: message is touching so many people. And yeah, that's why

1569
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: we try to have as many different kind of guests

1570
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 3: that can relate to different type of people, because you know,

1571
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: we're not just talking to one group of people, We're

1572
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: talking to everybody.

1573
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 6: I think Fernando was saying that to us as well.

1574
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 6: Shout out to Fernando, Lord of the Slumps. He was

1575
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 6: just like, you know what, the beauty of it is

1576
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 6: that it's like alphabet too, like whatever topic you want,

1577
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 6: like we're pretty much covering that based on finance and everybody.

1578
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 4: The reception has been just like incredible.

1579
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 6: So like when he's saying, like literally people coming home

1580
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 6: with jail and listening and that's like we've seen those messages.

1581
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 6: So like shout out to everybody who's been sending messages

1582
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 6: in dming because we see them in They're uplifting, Like

1583
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 6: it keeps us going, like there's a reason that you know,

1584
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 6: shout He's up at two in the morning, three in

1585
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 6: the morning, and I'm up at five thirty mornings because

1586
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 6: like we know how important this message that we're delivering is.

1587
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 4: So thank you to everybody for real.

1588
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, and I'm thank you for coming on. I

1589
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: literally had intentions on inviting you. I'm gonna do something

1590
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: for my players this week in DC. It's the last

1591
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: week in OTAs we're gonna come to DC. The NFLPA

1592
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: is there. I always want to introduce them to businessmen

1593
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: and things of that nature. So on Saturday, we're doing

1594
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: a seminar for a couple of hours before we go

1595
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: to the baseball game. And basically it's having professionals. It's

1596
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: a guy from real estate, a mortgage company, pounting taxes.

1597
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 2: I want my clients to be educated. I think that's

1598
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: the thing. And I think that's what's so powerful about

1599
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: this podcast is you guys say yes. Like last week

1600
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: he was like, Man, I learned something from your podcast.

1601
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: That's crazy thinking about what he does. However, just because

1602
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: you do something and a certain segretation doesn't mean you

1603
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: know everything about this. So it's it's so diverse and

1604
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: you haven't on so many different people on So I

1605
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: would be honest if you guys would come down and

1606
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: come and hang out with us and you know, talking

1607
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: to my clients, because I think, you know, the biggest

1608
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: thing is that with professionally with these guys is that

1609
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: you know, finances becomes this you know, whitewash term. And

1610
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: talking to them and understanding them and understanding you know

1611
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, what we're going through as young black

1612
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: men growing up in America. It's like, man, I understand,

1613
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: like you you know what I'm saying. Like we talked

1614
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: about the going out and stuff like that. I get that,

1615
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's the question is how much do

1616
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: you need to do it and that kind of stuff.

1617
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: So the biggest thing with me is that look for

1618
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: guys that look like me, that can relate to me,

1619
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: that could be beneficial. Like I want them to come on.

1620
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: I want you guys to come in on and say hey,

1621
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: listen and they'll watch your podcast. I think that they'll

1622
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: learn something and everybody will get better. And I think

1623
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: that's where you benefit and that's where you grow, and

1624
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 2: that's where that that spaces.

1625
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 3: As Mommy and Mass says, glad ration is better than competition.

1626
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 3: So yes, that's important. You know, we need to do

1627
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: that more and I think we started to do that more.

1628
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 3: But you know, it's more beneficial to have allies and enemies.

1629
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so we.

1630
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: Could we could work with each other and help each

1631
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 3: other and help society. So do you have any initiatives

1632
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 3: how can the people reach you with social media?

1633
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: With your my Instagram, I guess is see underscore Coy.

1634
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: Company's name is Paramount Sports Entertainment. We have offices in Charlotte,

1635
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: Norfolk and now in New York where I'm at. But yes,

1636
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: I underscore c c O. I underscore. My Twitter is

1637
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: Chris Underscore Coy. I always respond to people, so if

1638
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: you have any questions about the sports side or want

1639
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: to get into the agent business, we want to. I

1640
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: know I kind of talk fast some times, so if

1641
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: you want me to reiterate some of the things we

1642
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: talked about today, or if you want to just ask

1643
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: a question or listen. If you have a new cousin

1644
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a top player, man, look, get some quarterbacks,

1645
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: get some cornerbacks, all that stuff.

1646
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 6: Tell your notifications on man, they will, they will definitely

1647
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 6: in your DM as It's dope because like a lot

1648
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 6: of young black men, they aspired to be athletes or rappers,

1649
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 6: but they don't know like this is part of the

1650
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 6: business too. So like, for sure, there's gonna be a

1651
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 6: lot of questions I'm sure coming in with for sure.

1652
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: I think that's what you look for as a young man, right,

1653
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: you look for someone you can look up to. And

1654
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: with social media, like I always talk about the negative

1655
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: things and people potentially having little self esteem watching timbercent

1656
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: of someone's life on social media and comparing it to

1657
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: the hundred psent in their lives, like people do that

1658
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: all the time. But also it's connecting. It's like, man,

1659
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: this black dude's doing this I could do that, man.

1660
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 2: He came from a similar I was raised by you

1661
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I was raised by single mother.

1662
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: My dad was out there in the streets. Like I

1663
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: literally was raised by a single mom and a great

1664
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 2: stepfather at some point in time in my life. But

1665
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: it's literally a story that could be inspirational. And you know,

1666
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: you watch things and everybody everyone you meet, successful people,

1667
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: they talk to you about their come up and that

1668
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and that's always what people want to

1669
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 2: talk about. It how they came. And you know, when

1670
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: you get to that point, it's just like requires you

1671
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: to reach back and teach one. And I respect what

1672
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: you guys are doing with the young people and all

1673
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 2: comes talk to them.

1674
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 4: That would be great. Yeah, that's why I said.

1675
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 6: We say that too to the kids, like when they

1676
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 6: see it, they can inspire to be it for sure.

1677
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 6: So like when they see somebody like you in your field,

1678
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 6: like they definitely believe that, Yo, I can do this absolutely.

1679
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come doing it. Come beat me, Come beat me,

1680
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: Come be my competition, Come join me.

1681
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 4: Let's work together exactly.

1682
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 2: Let's dominate this thing for sure.

1683
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 3: Man, Let's do it all right. So Troy, some housekeeping

1684
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 3: items before we wrap up. Yeah, you have to merch

1685
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Speaker 3: onsetverliability liabilities.

1686
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Speaker 4: You know, that's our most popular shore.

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Speaker 6: But we got new mercher up on the website leisure

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Speaker 6: dot com.

1689
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Speaker 4: So check that out. We got a you know, some

1690
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 4: coffee mugs, We got some phone cases, so yeah, check

1691
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: that out.

1692
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 6: Support that we got our Patreon at patreon dot com,

1693
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 6: Backslash and Leisure, where you know, we put out extra

1694
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 6: content and we get to have some real conversations with some.

1695
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:44,520
Speaker 4: Of our followers.

1696
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 6: Unedited versions and unedited edited versions of our episodes.

1697
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 3: That's import Not to cut you off, but that's important.

1698
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: The versions that you hear on iTunes and YouTube are

1699
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: edited obviously because we take some parts out right. We

1700
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 3: try to keep it under like an hour. But the

1701
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: unedited version is only on Patreon.

1702
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 6: Only on Patreon for sure, and we have some some real,

1703
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,480
Speaker 6: like powerful conversations. The other day, one of our patrons,

1704
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 6: Sanna twenty one years old, was telling us how she

1705
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 6: listened to the podcast. She's twenty one, and her and

1706
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 6: her mom went and got life insurance because what they

1707
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 6: heard us saying, we were just like powerful, Oh my gosh,

1708
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 6: like wow, like the power of just telling a story

1709
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 6: like I told the story when you know, when I

1710
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 6: was twenty six with Shot, was like, yo, you should

1711
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 6: get life insurance and I'm like, I'll just get it

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Speaker 6: because you're my guy, Like I want to support you.

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Speaker 6: But they heard that story and was like it's important.

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Speaker 6: And you know, some of our posts that we put

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Speaker 6: up are very intentional so that people are aware of

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Speaker 6: those things. So shout out to Shianna and some of

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Speaker 6: our new patrons we have Vicki, Charles, Tony and Junior.

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Speaker 4: And some of our old ones that you know we

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Speaker 4: stay in contact with.

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Speaker 6: Cody obviously is one of our biggest supporters, so shout

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Speaker 6: out to them. We're going to keep doing, you know,

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Speaker 6: putting that unlimited, unlimited content out and if you want,

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Speaker 6: if you want to support Patreon, feel free. It's no force,

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Speaker 6: it's totally by choice, but it helps us do things

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Speaker 6: like that. So like the studio, obviously the background is

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Speaker 6: different because we're able to move the studio and we're

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Speaker 6: able to travel to different places because of that. So

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Speaker 6: thank you for your support. Continue to support. We're gonna

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Speaker 6: continue to give for free, all right.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and oh yeah, also the merch is up

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Speaker 3: and also our book tip oh YouTube, make sure you

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Speaker 3: subscribe to our YouTube channel, like and subscribely.

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Speaker 5: The comment. YouTube is very important to us.

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Speaker 3: As I said, we actually we put bonus content on

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Speaker 3: YouTube as well, and we're gonna we have more different

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Speaker 3: type of stuff that's unrelated to the podcast, but still

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Speaker 3: in along the lines of what we do. Have to

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Speaker 3: videos and things of that nature. So subscribe to our

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Speaker 3: YouTube channel. And we are So we did the we

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Speaker 3: did the event. I'm gonna say it right now. We

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Speaker 3: did the event in Brooklyn and that was a huge success.

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Speaker 3: So we're traveling. We're taking this show on the road

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Speaker 3: Network event meeting and greet. I think I think next

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Speaker 3: stop is Atlantam. We're gonna do something big in Atlanta

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be something big.

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Speaker 5: And d m B too.

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Speaker 3: Shout out the DMV Toronto, Canada, Houston, Texas. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: got a few stops to make. So yeah, so thank

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Speaker 3: you for your support and feel free to email us

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Speaker 3: d m US any opportunities in your city. Colleges, we

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Speaker 3: we we like the college. Then we're going to a

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Speaker 3: couple of colleges just just fall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: We got yeah, we got we got some stuff in

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Speaker 6: the works where we're going to be on some some

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Speaker 6: campuses EU I l too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that this should be great and

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be a good opening for like what

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Speaker 2: Brandon was trying to talk about about creating a class

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Speaker 2: for people that want to get so like this is

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Speaker 2: kind of like a great likefer in between.

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Speaker 6: When we spoke, he was like, I'm like, yo, I'm

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Speaker 6: doing it at the elementary level and the middle school level,

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Speaker 6: and he's doing it.

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Speaker 4: At the college level. So we're gonna start.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna see a lot more collaborative stuff between us

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Speaker 6: and our guests.

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Speaker 5: For sure, that's a fact.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, So my book tip of the week is

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Speaker 3: Ted Turner's biography Ted turn If anybody is not familiar,

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Speaker 3: brilliant businessman. He started tn T, CBS, turn the Sports,

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Speaker 3: He owned the Atlanta Braves, CNN, he owned the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Too, right, No, he doesn't own the Falcons.

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Speaker 2: I believe that Arthur in terms of Atlanta, the city's

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Speaker 2: that whole.

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Speaker 4: He's then unofficial.

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Speaker 5: I love that it was a lot all over the

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Speaker 5: place in Atlanta. But it's a good book. It's actually

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Speaker 5: a good book.

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Speaker 3: He talks about his life story is the upos and

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Speaker 3: downs being an entrepreneur, how he almost went broke like

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Speaker 3: a bunch of different times.

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Speaker 2: Man, I need to read that. I need that because

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Speaker 2: those are the things that really keep you going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly me Personally, I like to read biographies a

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Speaker 3: lot because I like to hear other people, like first

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Speaker 3: hand experience of like how did they do it? Because

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Speaker 3: it's not always you know, peaches, and it's never that,

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Speaker 3: like you know, it's always stuff that you would never expect, like,

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Speaker 3: oh damn, he almost went broke. He's on his third marriage. Like,

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Speaker 3: it's all kinds of stuff that's forks in the road,

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Speaker 3: but it keeps you motivated because it's never going to

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Speaker 3: be just, you know, perfect every single day, and if.

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Speaker 2: It is, you wouldn't appreciate it. So like why would

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Speaker 2: you want you want it to be, like you're gonna

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Speaker 2: embrace that.

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Speaker 5: Sunny days wouldn't be special if it wasn't for rain.

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Speaker 9: True in the words why Can't move to Southern California

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Speaker 9: and the words of Curtis Jackson, So yes, thank you

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Speaker 9: for rocking with us episode twenty two in the books,

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Speaker 9: We will see you next week this episode.

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Speaker 2: You appreciate it, bro Thanks Oh welcome to alumni.

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Speaker 4: Now, Alumni, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Gonna go buy a T shirt.

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Speaker 5: I'll put the Brooklyn thing just out there. I'll put

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Speaker 5: the energy. And we got.

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Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

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Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador

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Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with

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Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

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Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

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Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christine Noman, the United States

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border

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Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly

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Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will

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Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home

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Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.

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Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws,

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Speaker 1: border and families will be protected.

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Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,