1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're on the radio 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: from one until four, and then after four o'clock John 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Cobelt show on to mad We become a prop podcast 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: and you could listen to what you missed next hour 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: two rounds of the moistline, two rounds of the Moistline. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: And if you want to get your rants in for 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: next week, you go to one eight seven seven Moist 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: eighty six. You can do that now anytime. This afternoon, 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: we are going to talk with Susan Shelley here from 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. I gave you a rundown 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: on this Repeal the death texts Repeal the Death Tax 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Act right before Debrah's News. Repeal thedeathtax dot com. You 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: want to go to that website, print and sign the 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: official petition to repeal this tax if you haven't already, 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: and if you're just tuning in, Susan's going to come 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: on and explain more as to what this is about. 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Susan Shelley, welcome, how are you. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm good, John, thank you for having me. 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: So let's just reiterate again, it's repeal thedeathtax dot com. 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it's repeal thedeathtax dot com. And you can print 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: the petition on any printer on one sheet of letter 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: sized paper, very easy, okay. 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: And this is about being able to transfer your property 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: to your children upon your death and they would pay 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: at the same base tax rate as you were. 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 2: Exactly, you would keep the same tax bill. You would 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: not have a higher tax bill. You would not have 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: the property reassessed to current market value as if it 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: was purchased in an open sale by a total stranger. 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: Stays in the family, same tax bill. 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: Okay. So property owners got this right way back in 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, went through the legislature unanimously, and then 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: the public voted on it seventy five to twenty five. 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: That whenever they sell, whenever their house is sold after 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: they die, the children inherit the house and the children 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: inherit that same base property tax rate. What happened in 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: twenty twenty that we don't have that right anymore. 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Well, the legislature was looking for a way to raise taxes. 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: They don't like Proposition thirteen. They don't like taxpayer protections. 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: They think that everybody who has a house is a 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: gazillionaire and needs to be taxed to higher rate, and 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: life is just so unfair If that's not the case, 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: that's what they think. But the truth is that this 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: doesn't apply to millionaires and billionaires. This is regular people, 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: regular houses, regular families, and not just homes. But for 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: a family that invested in real estate like a duplex 48 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: or a small apartment or a small business property, those 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: are reassessed to current market value when passed from generation 50 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: to generation under Prop nineteen, And we could lose so 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: much of the affordable housing stock in California because so 52 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: many apartment buildings are two to twenty units two to 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: nineteen units, and a lot of single family homes are rental, 54 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: and when those are inherited, reassessed to current market value, 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: and what's going to happen to the tenants Either the 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: rent's going to go up or the property is going 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: to be sold because the family members can't afford those 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: new tax bills. 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the property taxes. I mean, the valuations 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: of properties have gone up so much. I mean, if 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: you bought a house in the nineteen eighties or nineteen nineties, 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: and now your children are inheriting it. The property tax 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: increase is huge. It's something that a lot of people 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: there's no way they could afford it, right. 65 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: It's really burdensome for businesses too. For a small restaurant 66 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: that's been through COVID and then the generation passes, the 67 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: kids inherited, they get this huge new tax bill based 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: on current market value. Good luck keeping that business running. 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Talk about how they fooled the public. In twenty twenty, 70 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: most people voted for Proposition nineteen and did not reach 71 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: that it ended the protections for parents to transfer to 72 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: children without the big tax increase the property Well. 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: The origin of this is that the California Association of 74 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: Realtors wanted to loosen up the market a little bit 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: and help people who wanted to move to a new 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: home but couldn't afford a hire tax bill move multiple times. 77 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: So they wanted people who were fifty five and older 78 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: to be able to move at least three times to 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: any county in the state and take their old tax 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: bill with them. But the legislature said, you will have 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: vicious opposition if you try to do that, and they 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: did try to do it two years earlier. 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: And they did have. 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Viscious opposition and it failed. So the legislature made this 85 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: deal with them, and they said, okay, if you add this, 86 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: if you raise taxes on people who have just lost 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: a parent so that they get the new tax bill 88 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: in the mail with the sympathy cards, if you'll do 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: that for us, we won't oppose your portability measure so 90 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: people can move and take their old tax bill. And 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: that's how this happened. And then they added the Wildfires 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: DUFF just because it looked good on the ballot. As 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: you mentioned, you were exactly right. At the time that 94 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: was in the news. People were upset and they felt 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: that more should be done to help wildfire victims, and 96 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: it looked like this would, but it doesn't. Really. It 97 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: was supposed to fund wildfire fighting, and actually it's produced 98 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: the zero dollars two years in a row. Because of 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: the way the math works. 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: What was supposed to go to wildfire fighting. 101 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: Well, supposedly there was this complicated formula that, however much 102 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: money the state of California, not the counties, but the 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: state got from these new property tax revenues, a percentage 104 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: of that would go into a new wildfire fund. But 105 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: it didn't work out because what happens is people get 106 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: higher property taxes, but then they pay lower income taxes 107 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: because they deduct the property taxes from their California income 108 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: tax returns. So every year it's going to be zero 109 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: as far as the eye can see. 110 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: And they didn't know that going in, or they knew 111 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: that and didn't care because they just wanted to pull 112 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: the scam exactly. 113 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: They knew. I had one one person told me, we 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: know it's only a trickle. It's not even a trickle, 115 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: it's not a nickel. 116 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I remember at the time. I remember the wildfire commercials 117 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: from four years ago, and I said at the time, 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: these wildfire commercials are to distract you. The real purpose 119 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: of Prop. Nineteen was to get rid of the protection 120 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: when you transfer your property to your children upon your death. 121 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: It was to get rid of that property tax protection. 122 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: That was the real reason for the bill. It wasn't 123 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: about funding wildfires. And as you said, I didn't even 124 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: know that part. They never got any money for wildfires anyway. 125 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: But those those commercials were so emotionally manipulative. 126 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and there was about fifty million dollars spent to 127 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: do that to people and they said it wasn't a 128 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: tax increase. They said it wasn't a taxing. It's the 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: biggest property tax increase in the history of California. And 130 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: it's massive because if you have a house that was 131 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: purchased years ago and it's reassessed a current market value, 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: even if you follow they have a narrow exclusion if 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: a parent's primary residence becomes a child's primary residence. But 134 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: there's only one million dollars of protection for extra value, 135 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: so if it has appreciated more than that, and of 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: course in many areas Los Angeles, the Bay Area, San Diego, 137 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: that's the case that you could get a tax increase 138 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars a year. Anyway, even if you 139 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: drop everything and move into your parents' house at this 140 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: terrible time in your life when you've just lost a parent, 141 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: you do all of that, you fill out the forms, 142 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: you still get a tax increase. It's so horrible. 143 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Okay, what's now the deadline to return these petitions? January sixteenth. 144 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Are you doing well on gathering signatures so far? 145 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: We are doing well. We've just hit the twenty five 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: percent mark. When you do these with volunteers, everybody tends 147 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: to hold on to the petitions and send them in 148 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: at the very end. So that's what's happening. They're coming 149 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: in in giant giant bins from the post office every day. 150 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: So we did set a deadline of January sixteenth, which 151 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: is next Tuesday, So get them in the mail. If 152 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: you can buy Tuesday postmark by Tuesday. There might be 153 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: a little more time because we tried to build in 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: some time to open the envelopes and sort the petitions. 155 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: We have to deliver them to all the separate counties 156 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: and it all has to be on paper. It's not electronic. 157 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: You can download the petition electronically, but this is the 158 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: nineteen eleven initiative law. It has to be paper and 159 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: ink and physically delivered. 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: They never updated that. Huh, we we're on paper and ink. 161 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: So this is repealthdeaftax dot com. And this would restore 162 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: the protection. You have a piece of property, you die, 163 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: your kids can inherit the property and pay at the 164 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: same base tax rate that you have. Repeal thedeathtax dot com. 165 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: And it's retroactive, so anybody who got burned by this 166 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: will be able to get their old tax basis back again. 167 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: All right, and thank you for coming on with us. 168 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, John all right. 169 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: Susan Shelley from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, please do 170 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: this now, print and sign the petition at repealthdeathtax dot com. 171 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: This is for you so that when you die you 172 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: still have the same property. You can transfer it to 173 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: your children as they inherit the property and they don't 174 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: have to pay the big tax increase. The property will 175 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: not be reassessed for tax purposes like that, because if 176 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: you've had your house a long time, you know, you 177 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: know how I mean, it's a good thing, right, You're 178 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: sitting on a lot of money there, but that your 179 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: children should be entitled to it. It shouldn't go to 180 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: the state. We talked about this yesterday. In twenty eleven, 181 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: Jerry Brown had a budget of ninety eight billion dollars 182 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: ninety eight Do you know last year Gavin Newsom had 183 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: a three hundred and thirty billion dollar budget. The size 184 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: of the amount of government spending has more than tripled 185 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: in just thirteen years, from ninety eight to three hundred 186 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: and thirty. And what do you get for this? The 187 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: roads stink, the schools stink. Crime is out of control. 188 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: The prisoners are running. The prisoners were let out of 189 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: prison and they're running rampant in the streets. They emptied 190 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: out much of the prison system. You have mental patients 191 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: and drug addicts in the streets. All the money spent 192 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: on homelessness, everything got worse. All the money they spent 193 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: on their crime initiatives, everything got worse. The schools are bad. 194 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: I mean, we go on and on. The roads are bad. 195 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: And I've got a story on how bad the roads 196 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: are and how the state's going to lose some tax 197 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: money if they forced people to drive electric cars. You 198 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: know those gas taxes. Well, obviously the gas taxes will disappear, 199 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: and that's going to be billions of dollars. We'll get 200 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: into that next. Repeal the death tax dot com print 201 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: and sign the petition and send it in. 202 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: Now you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI 203 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 204 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: We told you in the last segment about repealing the 205 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: death tax, and that is the tax that your kids 206 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: are going to have to pay on your property. You 207 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: die and they inherit the property, and under current law, 208 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: which was changed a few years ago, dishonestly, they're going 209 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: to have to pay property tax at the current market 210 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: rate of your house and not the rate that you 211 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: purchased the house when you purchase the house years ago, 212 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: and repeal the death tax. Dot com is where you 213 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: can sign the petition and download it. And you know, 214 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: and I asked our our guest, Suzanne Shelley from Howard 215 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: Jarvis Association, why did they do this? And it was 216 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: just a simple money grap and they distracted people with 217 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: commercials about wildfires in the meantime they snuck around the 218 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: back end. And now they are charging huge property tax 219 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: increases to people who've suffered deaths in the family, their parents. 220 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: And you do have to wonder. We discovered this week 221 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: that the Jerry Brown administration started out with a ninety 222 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: eight billion dollar budget and now last year it was 223 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty billion. How could the state budget 224 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: more than triple when everything everything stinks in the state. 225 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Government services are bad, The outcomes are bad. Bad homeless outcomes, 226 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: bad schooling outcomes, bad crime outcomes, prisons are being emptied. 227 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Bad roads. Let's look at the road situation. The roads 228 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: in California are graded by independent parties independent third parties 229 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: as being among the worst in the United States. In 230 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, the American Society of Civil Engineers had 231 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: California ranked forty ninth out of the fifty states, next 232 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: to last for road health. They got a grade of D. 233 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: Only one state's rating was worse, Mississippi, which got a 234 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: D minus. Now Mississippi is a third world state. People 235 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: in Mississippi would tell you this as well. Very poor state, 236 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: terrible school system, nobody's moving to Mississippi, and a terrible 237 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: road system. And people think of Mississippi as a backwater. 238 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: California's roads are barely ahead of Mississippi on the rankings. 239 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: And would you believe this. We pay fourteen billion dollars 240 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: a year in gas and diesel taxes, fourteen billion. And 241 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: if you remember, they jacked up the gas tax a 242 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: few years ago, claiming it was going to go for 243 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: the roads, and we got to repeal on the ballot, 244 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: and the repeal lost by a few points because Governor 245 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: Newsom and the state went into overdrive into lying and 246 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: misleading people. Very little work was done to repair the roads. 247 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: The roads are not in better shape than twenty twenty 248 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: or twenty fifteen. So we had the massive tax increase. 249 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: They fought back the repeal, made all kinds of wild promises, 250 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: but they lied, which is what they constantly do, and 251 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: they constantly get away with. They're always lying about these 252 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: propositions like high speed rail, like Prop forty seven, like 253 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:22,479 Speaker 1: the gas tax. They over this, this property tax situation 254 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: we've been discussing. They lied like crazy, and everybody falls 255 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: for it. So we pay fourteen billion dollars a year 256 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: in taxes. There is no other state even close to 257 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: that rate. It's the highest gas tax in the nation. Well, now, 258 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: since they're insisting the people buy electric cars, what's going 259 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: to happen there? Because if you have an electric car, 260 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: you're not buying gas. No, that's obvious. So they think 261 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: they're going to be losing four billion a year by 262 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: twenty thirty five. By then, you're not supposed to be 263 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: able to buy a gas powered car. Although I think 264 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: all that stuff is going to be locked back for 265 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: the reasons we've talked about many times. If they think 266 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: they're going to get one hundred percent electric cars by 267 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: twenty thirty five, I don't know what they're smoking. The 268 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: gasoline tax right now is at about fifty eight cents 269 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: a gallon, and it rises every year with inflation, and 270 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: they're going to have to make up for the electric 271 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: vehicle revenue loss. So they're going to put all these 272 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: electric force all these electric vehicles onto the roadway, and 273 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: guess what, They're going to raise our gas tax to 274 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: account for the difference. A lot of people are going 275 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: to resist buying electric cars for obvious reasons. So we're 276 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: going to hold onto our gas cars, maybe for ten, fifteen, 277 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: twenty years, and they're going to force the price of 278 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: gas up, partly to make up for the lost gas 279 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: tax and partly to punish us because we're not complying 280 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: with what our bosses are insisting on. You must get 281 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: out of your gas powered car. Oh you won't, Well, 282 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: we're going to make your life expensive and difficult. I 283 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: wonder how hard it's going to be to find a 284 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: gas pump in California. I wonder if they're going to 285 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: close all of them down, force them out a business. 286 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: They already forced dozens of refineries to close, which is 287 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: why we pay five dollars a gallon for gas and 288 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the country pays three dollars a gallon. 289 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: That's one of the big reasons. Another big reason is 290 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: the taxes. There's fifty two thousand miles of state highways, 291 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: there's three hundred and thirty three thousand miles of local roads. 292 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: Now they could tax electric vehicle owners right now. Now 293 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: they're having a tough enough time convincing people to buy evs. 294 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: If they're going to start taxing them, that's uh, that's 295 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: not good. They have other ideas that they could raise 296 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: money by using the GPS satellite tracking system to track 297 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: our mileage and set fees according to our mileage. Can 298 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: you imagine being tracked by the government with a GPS 299 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: so that they could send you a bill? Who the 300 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: hell wants that? But you know, people, people have botched 301 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: these votes repeatedly in the past. When we had a 302 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: chance to repeal the gas tax, a lot of people 303 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: didn't come through because they believed the television commercials. Anybody 304 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: who believes a political television ad about a referendum in California, 305 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: you are a stinking idiot. They are all lies, they're 306 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: all emotional manipulation. You ought to be ashamed of yourself 307 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: if you if you ever vote based on political television commercials, 308 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: especially on California referendums. All right, we've got more coming up. 309 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: This is amusing University of Michigan. All right, It's been 310 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: a big week for Michigan because they won the college 311 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: football and national championship. They also are number one on 312 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: another in another way, the amount of money they spend 313 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: on diversity equity and inclusion and the number of diversity 314 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: equity and inclusion staff members they have at the University 315 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: of Michigan. You're you're not going to believe this. It 316 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: really is a huge, wasteful industry. And that's next on 317 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: the John Cobelt Showed. 318 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM 319 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: six forty. 320 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: And we're on the radio from one until four and 321 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: then after four o'clock John Colebelt Show on demand and 322 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: you could listen to it whenever you want tonight over 323 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the weekend, runs continuously on the iHeart app and coming 324 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: up next hour, are going to run the Weistline twice, 325 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: two rounds of the Moistline here on KFI. All right, 326 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: I told you I was going to explain how not 327 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: only is the University of Michigan number one when it 328 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: comes to college football these days, winning a national championship 329 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: earlier this week, it also is at the top when 330 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: it comes to spending money on diversity, equity and inclusion 331 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: DI for sure, And there was a story in the 332 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: New York Post because the University of Michigan is now 333 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: paying thirty million dollars a year to two hundred and 334 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: forty one DEI staffers. According to an analysis for the 335 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: website called College Fix, they have a new five year 336 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: DEI plan. Last year, Michigan had one hundred and forty 337 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: two employees working for DEI. This year it's two forty one, 338 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: so they added another one hundred employees. Now, put aside 339 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: the merits of diversity, equity and inclusion, what has been 340 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: created at these schools is a racket. It's a financial racket. 341 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: We've told you often about the financial racket of nonprofit 342 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: homeless organizations here in Los Angeles. It's a racket. They 343 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: don't improve homelessness, everything gets worse. High speed rail a racket. 344 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: It's been sixteen years. No high speed rail track has 345 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: been laid down. It's just made people connected to the 346 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: process very wealthy. Billions of dollars has flown has been 347 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: transferred to various construction engineering companies, legal companies, consultant companies, 348 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: but actual railroad track, there's nothing, actual improvement in the 349 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: streets for the homeless. There's nothing. And that's what a 350 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: racket is. Whether you agree or disagree with its purpose, 351 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: the truth is in the end it does nothing and 352 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: makes it worse because it's set up just to make 353 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: people money. And so that in the University of Michigan, 354 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: really all the universities, that's what DII is. It's a 355 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: huge waste of tax money. Because they did an assessment 356 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: as to whether people, whether students at these schools are happier, 357 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: and they found that eighty five million dollars was spent 358 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: on DEI for black students at the University of Michigan 359 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: over the last five years, but the experience on campus 360 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: has not improved. Black enrollment actually dropped slightly by a 361 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: few tenths of a percentage point, and the number of 362 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: students who were satisfied with the overall campus climate decreased 363 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: from seventy two percent to sixty one percent. So all 364 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: the DEI crowd did besides enriched themselves, is they increased unhappiness. 365 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: Now about forty percent of the students are unhappy. Here's 366 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: the study of the of Texas A and M University. 367 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: Clairmount Institute did this study found that they spend eleven 368 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: million dollars on DEI, but the percentage of students who 369 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: feel they belonged at the school dropped significantly. Remember DEI, 370 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what's what's that I for inclusivity, Right, everybody's 371 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: supposed to feel included. They're supposed to feel more comfortable, happier, 372 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: more productive. Well, they found out and wait for the 373 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: twist at the end. Here, among white students, the number 374 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: who felt they belonged at the school dropped from ninety 375 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: two percent to eighty two percent, Hispanics dropped from eighty 376 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: eight to seventy six percent, and among black students it 377 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: dropped from eighty two to fifty five percent. So they 378 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: spent millions of dollars, and in every demographic category more 379 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: and more people were unhappy. They spent a lot of money. 380 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: At UC Berkeley, the Division of Equity and Inclusion has 381 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two staffers thirty six million dollars, 382 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: but black enrollment dropped from three percent to two percent 383 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: over the decade. And there's a case at the University 384 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: of Washington. It was written about in a city journal. 385 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: They did an investigation and they found that the university 386 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: goes through what they describe as exhaustive efforts to discriminate 387 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: against white job applicants. There was an opening for a 388 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: ten year track professor position in early twenty twenty three 389 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: in the Department of Psychology, and the Diversity Advisory Committee 390 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: pressured the committee to rank the candidates in accordance with 391 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: a certain formula so that a black woman would receive 392 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: the job instead. The handbook spells out how to exclude 393 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: candidates of undesirable races, starting with white people, Asians too, 394 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: and the formula ensures that the candidates of preferred races 395 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: would get hired. In fact, in the twenty twenty twenty 396 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: twenty one academic year, the department hired only people of 397 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: color for five tenure track positions, and they created a 398 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: handbook a manual so that no white people would be 399 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: hired for any of the open professor positions. Of course, 400 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: you know they've got they got caught, and they've now 401 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: apologized to people that they discriminated against. And that's another 402 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: one of the purposes of DEI is to create new 403 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: forms of discrimination against new groups, not to end old discrimination, 404 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: but to replace it with new discrimination and in the 405 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: process everyone involved makes big money, six figure salaries, budgets 406 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars. It's uh, you should you 407 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: should mean that they no white faculty allowed, is the 408 00:26:52,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: headline a cityjournal dot org. Basically, if if the minorities 409 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: weren't on the preferred list, it was considered the wrong 410 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: race and they just rigged the scoring in the various 411 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: categories that they use to analyze whether somebody was qualified 412 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: or not. That was done at a major school, the 413 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: University of Washington. This is all over the place now. 414 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: But like I said, like the homeless racket, like the 415 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: high speed rail racket, teachers' unions, that's another great racket. 416 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Rights student scores are at all time lows here in California, 417 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: even though the teachers have received tremendous raises over the years. 418 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: These are rackets. And whether you agree or disagree with 419 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: what they claim their motivation is, the truth is nothing 420 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: improves for students, either at college or in the schools. 421 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: Nothing improves for the homeless people, nothing improves for the roads. 422 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: We don't get the rail. It's just all stolen money. 423 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: More coming up John Cobelt's. 424 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: Show you're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI 425 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: AM six forty. 426 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Alex Stone on coming up after three 427 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: o'clock to talk about big ice snowstorm, extreme cold over 428 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: large parts of the country and this is a big 429 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: travel weekend, not to mention door plugs blown out and 430 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: morning light's going on. If you didn't hear, we talked 431 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: about it earlier that the FAA is going to do 432 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: a thorough audit of a Boeing's manufacturing process. They think 433 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: there might be other things wrong with the process, and 434 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: they're also going to do an audit of their suppliers. 435 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: So there's already two thousand flights canceled today. Alex Stone's 436 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna explain what's going on in case you are going 437 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: somewhere for the long weekend. Did you let your kids 438 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: do sleepovers when they were little? Yes, yeah, you didn't 439 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: have any you have no helicopter parent. 440 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: Well, but I knew the parents. I mean most of 441 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: the kids. Their parents were my friends. 442 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh I'd leave my kids with random parents. Oh you did, Yeah, 443 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm going shopping. Wells, Hey, you want to watch them 444 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: for again? Okay, looks like there's a number of parents 445 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: now who are too spooked and they won't let their 446 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: kids sleep over. They're they're they're they're worried about sex abuse, 447 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: gun violence, and and now half the parents in the 448 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: US describe themselves as overprotective, you know, which is really sad, 449 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: And it's getting worse and worse. I heard something the 450 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: other day, and it's true. Do you know that the 451 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: the kidnap rate of children is no different than it 452 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: was in the nineteen seventies. Really, the only difference is 453 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: that if something happens, it's on the news twenty four 454 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: to seven. That's true. 455 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: But I'll tell you when my kids were. 456 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: Little, I was terrified. 457 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: I mean I made my kids memorize the address, the 458 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 4: phone numbers where they could just when they started talking, 459 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: I was so afraid. 460 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: Well wouldn't they say no, please, don't bring me back, 461 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: take me, take me. 462 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 4: Well, fortunately we didn't have to find out your kids 463 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: were three and they had their thumb out in the freeway. 464 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: It's like, take me, how old were your kids when 465 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: you guys gave them a key to your house? Uh? 466 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: Probably around twelve or thirteen, I think, yeah, I was 467 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: about eleven or twelve. Yeah, So when they if they, 468 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: because by then they're they're in when they get into 469 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: middle school and their schedules change and they come home 470 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: at different times. 471 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 4: I don't think my kids ever came home to an 472 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: empty house. I think with my work schedule, I think 473 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: I was. I think I was always home. 474 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: But you would did dump them off with other parents 475 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: for sleepovers. 476 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: That's because they wanted to go and sleep over their friends' houses. 477 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't dumping them, unlike the Co Belt residents. 478 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: Apparently they uh. Well. The reason I bring this up 479 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: because in the New York Times they had a story 480 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: that parents are so silly about being nervous and weirded out. 481 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: There's one woman who has three children, never allowed them 482 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: to spend a night away from her, even with other 483 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: family members. But she'll she'll do sleep unders, which means 484 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: you you have to You can come home at two 485 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: or three in the morning, but you have to come home. 486 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 4: Oh god, I wouldn't want to be waiting up. 487 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what's the point once you got to three 488 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: in the morning. 489 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing can happen. 490 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Then might something bad was going to happen, It'll happen 491 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 1: by three, right, Yeah, And she thinks there's a woman here. 492 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: Her name's Carneese Armstrong. She listen Marietta, and uh, she 493 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to say no to of course, they talked 494 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: to the kids. She didn't want to say no Altogether. 495 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: She thought it was a good compromise. Kids disagreed, because 496 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to be the last, the first kid 497 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: to leave early. It's better not to show up at 498 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: all than to always be the first kid to leave early. 499 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: And after a while, nobody wants to invite you. Actually, 500 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: that's called a late over. Well, it's the same turn 501 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: actually sleep under or a late over. It's where they 502 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: come to play, but they don't stay to sleep. The 503 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: whole fun is waking up in the morning and you're 504 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: in somebody else's house and they're cooking breakfast for you, 505 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: and there's a whole just a whole different experience. I 506 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: always thought that's good for kids to experience how other 507 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: people live and how other families interact. 508 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 4: Now I wouldn't want my kids. I mean, fortunately I 509 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: didn't have to deal with this, but thinking about it now, 510 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 4: I would not want to send my kids to a 511 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: home where I thought that they were creepy, the parents 512 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: were creepy. It's not to say that I wouldn't let 513 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: them go to anybody else's house, but I certainly wouldn't 514 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 4: send them to a place where I thought that they 515 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: were going to get hurt and not be watched. So 516 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: on and so forth. 517 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: And when the parents says, why aren't you letting your 518 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: son come over? Because I think you're. 519 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: Creepy exactly, I would say, just. 520 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: That you and your husband are creepy. 521 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: I'd make an excuse. But again, I was never put 522 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: in that position. But I do remember a lot of 523 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 4: parents talking about some parents would ask they would they 524 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: would ask parents, do do you have a gun in 525 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: the house? I remember that was that was a big thing. 526 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Do you know the kind of families that have guns 527 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: in the house where they leave them on dining room 528 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: tables and somebody gets shot? No, okay, that's that's not 529 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: your neighborhood. That's not most people's neighborhood. That happens out 530 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: there somewhere in the trailers. I don't have any patience 531 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: for over protective helicopter parents. I get fed up with 532 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: listening about it. 533 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: So your boys were spending the night at people's houses 534 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 4: all the time. 535 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when they were really young too. I liked 536 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: it night off for me. That's why I can't believe. 537 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: I can't believe. It's like, don't you don't want a 538 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: night free? Send them all out and I'd let him drive. 539 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: Go ahead, just take the car. Go. It's scary to 540 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: be a parent. It is. 541 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. My kids thought that I was overprotective. 542 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 4: And I know what you're gonna say, John, but honestly, 543 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 4: trust me when I say this. I was not a 544 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: helicopter parent and I did not think I was overprotective. 545 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 4: You know why they think I was overprotective because I 546 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: would ask them, hey, can you text me when you 547 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 4: get someplace? Can you let me know where you're going? 548 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: I didn't say they couldn't go, and they thought that 549 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 4: was too much. 550 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: You were being reasonable. I think my wife used to 551 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: do that too, and my kids thought she was being 552 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: way overprotective. Can I tell them it? Just send the text? 553 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: It's over. Yes, you know that's not the hell to 554 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: die on. Right, You're getting to go out, You're getting 555 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: to come back when you want or a reasonable late time. 556 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: So you take the win there. I it's entirely you 557 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: know what I ca to how much television people watch 558 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: I remember during the COVID thing, knew a couple people 559 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: who were really freaked out and hysterical about COVID, and 560 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: they would say something like, well, you know, I watched 561 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: CNN since six o'clock this morning. It's like, okay, so 562 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: you watch CNN twelve hours a day. And they CNN 563 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: at the time had a scoreboard that showed you how 564 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: many people had died each day. It was like a 565 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: running telethon leaderboard a scoreboard, and so well, if you're 566 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: going to watch twelve hours of people dying one by 567 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: one by one on the scoreboard, of course you're going 568 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: to be freaked out. People who didn't watch TV, I 569 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: found were much less freaked out. They got they got 570 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: sick of hearing about the thing. They just decided, I'm 571 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: going to live my life. Whatever happens happens, and they're 572 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: much better that that screen. That box does so much 573 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: damage to people's mental stability. 574 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 4: But you know, I don't know if your kids felt 575 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: this way, but mine did. Because I'm in the news business, 576 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 4: and so I will tell them about out certain things, 577 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 4: or I will be worried about certain things. They tell 578 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: me that I overreact because I'm too close to it. 579 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 4: You know, for instance, if I'm warning them about something right, yes, 580 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 4: you know, my daughter going out, you know, in downtown 581 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 4: LA or something, so that she thinks I'm she gets 582 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 4: annoyed with me because I'm concerned, and I explain to 583 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 4: her why, and she thinks, oh, Mom, it's because you're 584 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 4: in the news business. 585 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh it's true. That does have an effect. It does, 586 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: But am I wrong? We know what happens, yeah, but 587 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: we find but you don't report that the ten million 588 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: kids who got home safely. Now you sound like my kids. Okay, 589 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: never mind, forget. I was always on their side. I know, 590 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: all right, Alex Stone coming up, lots of storms and 591 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: cold weather and flights are going to be delayed and canceled. 592 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: Big mess coming this weekend. Hey, you've been listening to 593 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: The John Cobalt Show podcast. 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