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Speaker 2: All right, all kinds of stuff is happening. Karen, you

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Speaker 2: said you wanted to say some random thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I uh.

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Speaker 5: The past few days it's been thinking and interacting with

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Speaker 5: people online and I wanted to share, you know, some

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Speaker 5: of the some of these thoughts quote unquote and some

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Speaker 5: one of them just an event that happened. One thing

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Speaker 5: I wanted to say was that the other night I

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Speaker 5: woke up and it was so fucking hot in here.

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Speaker 5: I was sweating and I couldn't understand why. And it

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Speaker 5: was hot, and I think you said something about the

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Speaker 5: something like that, so uh uh so for me, because

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Speaker 5: because I'm cold all the time, but my body is

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Speaker 5: night has kind of adjusted to Rod's temperature as far

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Speaker 5: but this was kind of abnormal, and it came out

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Speaker 5: didn't understand what was happening. And you made a joke

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Speaker 5: about are you going through the change? I was like,

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, she was like, was it hot in

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Speaker 2: And I was like, not not really, and she was like, well,

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Speaker 5: And the thing is, you made a joke, but you know,

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Speaker 4: You're always radiating heat. And so I had your mama did.

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Speaker 5: So when she did my hair, I was joking with

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Speaker 2: So I didn't understand, Well, fifty one is the average

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Speaker 5: I have family members who have had premature menopause. I

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Speaker 5: And so I started asking women online. I asked them

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Speaker 5: know you could have menopause doing pregnancy. I was like,

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Speaker 5: you know, some woman was talking about how it makes you.

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Speaker 5: It makes them very irritable because all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: Saying, Uh, you can certain diets kind of reduce it.

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Speaker 5: You know, certain things you eat can help reduce it.

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Speaker 5: You know a lot of women time they wake up

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Speaker 5: Women tell me I have to have to change clothes.

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Speaker 5: And I was googling the line to have special type

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Speaker 5: or draw the special design for minnopause that could kind

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Speaker 5: of draw the Yes, yeah, minopause panties and like tops.

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Speaker 3: And I heard a period of panties, but I guess

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Speaker 5: And I kind of googled it and I was like,

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Speaker 5: know women been having menopause for years, so this can't

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Speaker 5: be nothing fucking shocking to anybody. But you know, for me,

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Speaker 5: but other women have experiences before and so.

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Speaker 2: But you don't know that you're experienced in menopause. No, okay, No,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be clear. I left the AC

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Speaker 2: AC was left off that night, so that's why I

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Speaker 2: made a joke. But yes, it was like a little

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I started really digging in because I want

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to bring it back to reality because

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Speaker 2: just like saying I had heartburn and being like, well,

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Speaker 2: but we actually do have reason to believe it was

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Speaker 3: Okay, but go ahead, and.

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Speaker 2: Do you think I'm just saying before you webbing do

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Speaker 3: I got fucking terminal cancer.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to pig I was happening with me.

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Speaker 2: It was just it was hot that night. I thought

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Speaker 2: No, you did hear that far, because you was like, oh, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: but then you did whatever this is, yes, but go

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Speaker 4: I was trying to find out what was happening.

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Speaker 5: And like I said before, because I know that early

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Speaker 5: like that, particularly with women, and they don't talk about

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Speaker 5: It's just one of those things where it was more

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Speaker 5: I I as much as people quote unquote had on

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Speaker 5: just this lovely, great thing. I wake up every day,

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Speaker 5: It's it's a machine that does it, okay, and so

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Speaker 5: And I just had to say that because that's just

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Speaker 5: Know what, that's kind of what I what I've heard

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Speaker 5: It is because it is what it is. It is

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Speaker 5: you're focused on your own. So when you have this

442
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 5: group of people that don't have children, guess what they

443
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 5: can do. When you decide that you want to go

444
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 5: club and or you want to go partying, or you

445
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 5: want to spend the throng time along with your husband,

446
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 5: they don't mind keeping your kids.

447
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,400
Speaker 4: They don't mind.

448
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 5: Because they actually and actually they actually playing. They're like, well,

449
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep your kids. Guess what we'renna do. We

450
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 5: gonna do a movie night, you gonna get popcorn, We

451
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 5: gonna do this. We make the event a fun event.

452
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 5: And so it frustrates me sometimes when people kind of

453
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 5: shit on particularly women, you know, aunts that don't have children,

454
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 5: and like you're just the worst human being on the earth,

455
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 5: and you're just so selfish and so self centered and

456
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 5: you don't give a fuck about nobody but yourself because

457
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 5: you don't have kids. And I know it's a lot

458
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 5: of parents that have kids and they don't give a

459
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 5: fuck about their kids. So what are we talking about

460
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 5: here that those two things aren't the same. And just

461
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 5: because you don't have kids don't mean you don't care

462
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 5: about children.

463
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 4: It don't mean you you're like, ell, you get that

464
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 4: thing away from me?

465
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, that's more of a woman

466
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 2: thing for sure, because I don't think men catch it

467
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: as bad, like with the whole you ain't had no kids,

468
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? Necessarily? I think for men it's

469
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: more like you ain't got no kids?

470
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 3: Are you gay? You know? That type of shit, but

471
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 3: not are you selfish? You know?

472
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 2: But with women it's like somehow you owe your body

473
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 2: to the world to produce more human beings and if

474
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 2: you don't do so, then you let everybody down. But

475
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: you know, I would say, just as in general for me,

476
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: I feel appreciated, I mean, but I feel like I'm

477
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 2: born into a.

478
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 3: Very fortunate family.

479
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: Like my family just doesn't really trafficking a lot of

480
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 2: that shit, you know. So it's like if it's like

481
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: y'all not gonna have kids, like, I don't think so well,

482
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 2: all right, you know, like it wasn't like when I'm

483
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: gonna have some grand babies. Every time we go to

484
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: an event or some shit like that, maybe like an

485
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 2: uncle or aun, a distant relative or something. But nobody

486
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: in my immediate family acts like that. So you know,

487
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: I never felt that way. And you know, as far

488
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: as with you know, our niece and nephew, you know,

489
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: I feel like whenever around them and stuff, we get

490
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: to have fun and be you.

491
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: Know, like that, don't you know.

492
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I'm glad to have the family

493
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: I have, just because I look around at other people's

494
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: experiences and I'm like, yeah, that sucks, you know.

495
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 5: Right, And I think for me sometimes. And I kind

496
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 5: of said this before, and because I'm older, I'm more

497
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 5: laid back. But when I was younger, you used to

498
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 5: get an attitude with people when they ask me about kids,

499
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 5: because you know, you are the ten thousand persons that

500
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 5: have asked me about me having a baby. You're not

501
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 5: the first, You're not the hundred ten thousands. And I'm

502
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 5: tired of being asked the same with the fucking question,

503
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 5: Like I'm on goddamn drowl every time I come into

504
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 5: acting with somebody. So I used to get attitude with

505
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 5: people and be like, mind your own goddamn business. Me

506
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 5: having a child or not having a child.

507
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 4: Nothing to do with you.

508
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 5: I've kind of offtened my stance on that a little

509
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 5: bit and be like, oh, I just choose not to

510
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 5: have it and keep it trucking. But the thing is,

511
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 5: you don't know why people don't have kids, and to

512
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 5: an extent, it's somewhat and people don't really think about

513
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 5: it because, like you said, people, I think we thought

514
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 5: just before. People kind of use that as a particularly

515
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 5: for women, and they look at you as you are

516
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 5: child bearing age. People just assume that if you present

517
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 5: as a straight woman, that you've had children, and so

518
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 5: they just make these assumption that every woman wants a child,

519
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 5: and you know what's wrong with you.

520
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 4: A lot of people use it as what you call

521
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: it icebreakers.

522
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 5: That's for women. That's the immediate question, how many kids

523
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 5: do you have? And when you say you don't, that

524
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 5: kind of kills the icebreaker, and a lot of women

525
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 5: they don't know where to go after that point, like

526
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 5: oh my god, Okay, you know, and everybody look at

527
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 5: our crazy because they don't know how to respond to

528
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 5: you saying I don't. And then you know, it's like,

529
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 5: I don't owe you an explanation to why. It could

530
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 5: be a variation of reasons why I could choose not to.

531
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 5: I may have had an operation, you don't know, and

532
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 5: it's not and I'm not obglat to tell you why.

533
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's interesting though, because I've had.

534
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: A lot like I've had that, like now that I'm

535
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: getting older as a man, I've had to you don't

536
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: have kids thing or people assume I have kids and

537
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But I think the reaction to it

538
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: for women at the younger age is also a lot about.

539
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: Kind of.

540
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: Proving, you know, like it's like you have to be

541
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: almost what's the word.

542
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: You almost have to be.

543
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: Militant you do so like at your younger age you

544
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: almost have to be like, no, I'm not doing this

545
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: thing that you keep that people think.

546
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 3: I want to do.

547
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: And I think there does come kind of like a

548
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: retaliation type of vibe to it, like yeah, but I

549
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 2: think when you get a little older, there's you know,

550
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: one society feels like, well now it's a bad idea

551
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: for you that kids, so they're not gonna.

552
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: Question you as much.

553
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: But then too, I think you just become more established

554
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: and more secure about your stance and your view on things,

555
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: because you know, at some point you're just like, well,

556
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: this is me. This is how I define myself, and

557
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: how you define me or what you think is not

558
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: gonna make me mad and not gonna make me happy,

559
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: not gonna make me sad. It's that's just something you

560
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: need to deal with on your own. And I think

561
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: you kind of came.

562
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 5: Into that correct, correct, And like you said, it is

563
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 5: one of the things where as you get older, like

564
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 5: I said, you be getting more comfortable, you know, with

565
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 5: yourself and who you are and stuff like that. And

566
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of women that actually fall

567
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 5: underneath that pressure and they some of them really might

568
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 5: not want to have children. They might want to have

569
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 5: a make and get married, but it does not mean

570
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 5: you want to have children. And I think that, like

571
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 5: you said, you almost have to be militant because the

572
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 5: people to keep asking you are very militant, and they

573
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 5: some of them ask you every time they see you,

574
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 5: every time you post something, every time you comment.

575
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: You know, it's a constant.

576
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 5: It's like you're constantly fighting and it's not always the

577
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 5: same person, but it's like society and people around you

578
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 5: a lot, sometimes even complete strangers, and you're like, come on, dog,

579
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 5: Like I said, that's and I'm glad I've gotten older

580
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: and that anger has kind of dropped because, yeah, it

581
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 5: was a period of time. I will look at you

582
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 5: like like you do you do you really want some

583
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 5: of this today? But you know now it's kind of

584
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 5: more mellowed out.

585
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

586
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 5: And my last thing that I want to talk about,

587
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 5: my mama had a birthday party yesterday.

588
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: She turned seventy eight years old.

589
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 5: She actually turned seventy eight years on on October the third,

590
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 5: but they had a birthday party Saturday. And I had

591
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: a bow at her birthday party because one of my

592
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 5: cousins wanted to throw her birthday party because they was

593
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 5: thinking about with throwing it when she was eighty.

594
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 4: But she was like, now, I'm not gonna wait till

595
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: she eighty.

596
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: She's like, I'm gonna do it now, she said, because

597
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 5: tomorrow's not promised. So they threw a birthday party at

598
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: her the Senior Center. And every day Ma Mama goes

599
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 5: to the Senior Center and she has like buddies and

600
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 5: stuff like that, and a lot of them actually came,

601
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 5: so we had at the same place.

602
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: She actually goes like every day of the week and

603
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 4: they do.

604
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 5: Various differ name, they play bingo, they work out, they exercise,

605
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: you know. And she was telling and Ma Mama seventy eight,

606
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 5: but some of the people and she's actually young, and

607
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 5: she was saying.

608
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: That some of the people that come to the.

609
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 5: Center are actually older than she is, like close pushing

610
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 5: closer to one hundred. And she was saying, like one

611
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 5: day she came in there and she one of her

612
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 5: necklaces had broke, and she was saying that one of

613
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 5: the older ladies actually opened up like a kid and

614
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 5: pulled out a look kid and had all these metal

615
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 5: tubes and honey and hand fixed her necklace.

616
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: I was like, worry about it. She was like yeah,

617
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: she was like, she.

618
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 5: Hand fixed my I didn't know what was happening, she said,

619
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 5: but I clapped it back on and she was like,

620
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 5: I went on by my badness.

621
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: I was like wow.

622
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: And so she was saying that going to the senior

623
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 5: Center makes her feel young again because she's she's the

624
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 5: youngest out of them. So a lot of times she'll

625
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 5: clean plates and locked because cleaning is her thing. I

626
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 5: love my mama Bearry dialing my honey. When I was

627
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 5: a child, she got out my nerves with that goddamn cleaning.

628
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 5: She was like a neat clean, fantic like it will

629
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 5: be five ten the bus of the house, and it

630
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 5: always looked like no kids was there.

631
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: She was the type of woman.

632
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: She's really old school.

633
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 5: She was the type of woman when she washed the

634
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 5: walls or wiped the walls down, she would get on

635
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 5: her knees and she would hand to her floor. She

636
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 5: would hand wax her floors. She vacuumed, she dusted like

637
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 5: I mean, she was like her house had to be

638
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 5: meticulous at all times. And my black ass was like,

639
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: fuck this bullshit. The dust gonna come back, the dirt

640
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 5: gonna come back. I could be doing other things with

641
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 5: my value, but time other than goddamn cleaning.

642
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: I don't mind minding.

643
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: That reminds me of October thirtieth.

644
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 2: We are doing our discussion for the ratet Reagon club

645
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: of this whole gy roaches in the crib.

646
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: We'll go ahead, can okay?

647
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 4: And but for me, I'm like wow.

648
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: And when I was a child, me and her always

649
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 5: went back and forth with that cleaning, you know, and

650
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 5: she would come in and she would particularly when it

651
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: come to dust.

652
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 4: And then my mama, she was old school. I know

653
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: some of you older people had.

654
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: This, but she had like these glass caving these glass like.

655
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: I can say it.

656
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 5: Oh, they were like glass, and they would like be

657
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 5: on these handles and they would be like stacked on

658
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 5: your walls.

659
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: You were screwing into your wiles. I don't know what

660
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: they're called.

661
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: And she would have like these nick knacks on top

662
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: of each one, and the glass would.

663
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: Collect dust, and so she would.

664
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: Be like, I want you to go in there and dust,

665
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 5: and me and Hu used to go toe to talk

666
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: about that dusting glass because I was like, hey, as

667
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: a child, I would never say this to her. I

668
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 5: told her this as it was adult, But as a child,

669
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: I was like, I didn't.

670
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: Buy none of this. What the hell I got to

671
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: clean the poat? This ain't notn't you know?

672
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: In my mind, I'm figuring I didn't purchase none of this.

673
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 5: Why am I cleaning some shit that ain't mine?

674
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, black mamas be having like rooms you can't go

675
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: in and shipwright.

676
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: Shit wrapped up in plastic as shit, you ma, mama,

677
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: just like.

678
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: We only go in this room to clean it. It

679
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: doesn't even make fucking sense to have this room. This

680
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: a wasted This is a waste of a room, right,

681
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: and the Pope is never coming here for us to

682
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: use this the good room, you know what I mean.

683
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: It's like the play clothes of a house is versus

684
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: the church clothes of a house, Like we don't except

685
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: we don't go to church, you know, you go to

686
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: church every week, but in that house, in that then

687
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: you never have a person over to so important that

688
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: you break out the plastic furniture and.

689
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Shit that is.

690
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: And she was old school with the china cabinet that

691
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: had shit in.

692
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: There that I know about, a product cust to one

693
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 5: hundred years old, and nobody ever ate off of what

694
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 5: the whyte isn't here, nobody's using it, you know, shit

695
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: like that. So me and her always used to go

696
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: toe to toe because particularly when you had the blinds

697
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 5: and I could see the dust like floating in the air.

698
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 5: I was like, Mama, the dust is floating in the air.

699
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 5: Why am I wiping this shit off? For the dust

700
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 5: of land right back where I'm wiping. I'm like, this

701
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: is stupid.

702
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Did say that?

703
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: No, But that's what I was thinking. It was stupid.

704
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you're still alive. So I know

705
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: you didn't say it.

706
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 5: I didn't say it, but Lord knows, that was my

707
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 5: thought process.

708
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: And Lord knows.

709
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 5: When I was a kid, I used to get a

710
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: lot of ass whippings because I wouldn't say nothing, but

711
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 5: my eyes and my face exprescious would let you know

712
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: how what the thoughts that were coming out of my head.

713
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: It was like my face.

714
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 5: Would let you know what what was that little you know,

715
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 5: the little bubble above your head. My face was like

716
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 5: she's like, yes, I'm talking to you, and pick your face,

717
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: you know type of thing.

718
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: So but I love her. I love her. But like

719
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: I said, I clean, y'all, I do clean. I'm not

720
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: a nick fanatic.

721
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 5: If it comes between dustin and going to do something fun,

722
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: that shit can wait. But that's just me, you know,

723
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 5: because guess what, the dirt gonna stay there? Until the

724
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 5: dirt get moved. So it's it's all right. It's okay.

725
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 5: Nobody's gonna die, you know, just because it's a cup

726
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: in the sink. You know, the world is not coming

727
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: to the end because you went to bend to float

728
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 5: there and get mopped tonight. It will be alright. It

729
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 5: is not a cause for the emergency. The house will

730
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 5: not goddamn burned down. It's okay, particularly if you have kids.

731
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: It's all right, you have kids. Your house will never

732
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: be cleaned again.

733
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: Give that.

734
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: Fairy tale world up, you know, like like a lot.

735
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: Of women drive themselves fucking insane trying to keep a

736
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: goddamn house clean with kids.

737
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: You live there, you live there. It's okay. You lived there.

738
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 5: Everybody get up, everybody do you lived there? And so

739
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 5: I think, uh, that's one thing I can say. She

740
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 5: kind of turned me off, not from cleaning, but turned

741
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: me off from clean as much.

742
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: You know. And I was a hard headed kid.

743
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: I was very rebellious as a child, and I was like,

744
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: whatever you saying, I'm gonna do the opposite, you know.

745
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: I was that.

746
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: I was that type of a kid, and it just

747
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: made me. Going to the party just made me think.

748
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 5: About all our interactions and stuff like that, and and I.

749
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: Love her very dearly.

750
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 5: And it was hilarious because for the birthday party there,

751
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: I didn't realize this, but then by over like one

752
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: hundred family members and so when I walked in, it

753
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: was a big ass spanim reunion for me because some

754
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: man the people I hadn't seen it year. So I

755
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 5: walked out, I was like, oh, I know you, I

756
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 5: know you, so, so that's how y'all see so many pictures.

757
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: A lot of them people I had seen in years

758
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: of some of them decades.

759
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 5: Some of them, Uh you know how I hadn't seen

760
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: since I've been like five or ten years old. I

761
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 5: don't even remember some of them, you know. So they

762
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 5: had to tell me who they were and went through

763
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 5: that process and it was such a happy occasion and

764
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 5: it was so much love and uh we danced and

765
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 5: they have lots and lots and lots and lots of

766
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 5: food and I had a ball and uh, it was

767
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: literally like four, five, six generations of children there and

768
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: it was wonderful to get your interact and get to

769
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 5: see everybody and show love. And people gave speeches where

770
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: people were just giving speeches and telling stories, you know

771
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: about my mama and their interaction with her, and it

772
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 5: was just it was just wonderful. And my my mama

773
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: who is who was actually my aunt, uh but I

774
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 5: call her mama.

775
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: Uh it was uh.

776
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: Her daughter was actually uh the m C and uh

777
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: who I call on Debbie uh was the m C

778
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: and uh.

779
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: She was going around.

780
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 5: Talking about the kids and she was like and she

781
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: was like, well she adopted one more and her.

782
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: Name is Karen, and Karen here.

783
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: And I actually just set down, y'all eye because I

784
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: was like, I'm good, you know, because my.

785
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: Thing was like all you know, her brothers and sisters

786
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: had win, you know, her children had win. I was like,

787
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 4: I was good. I was good, you know, not going

788
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 4: up there, not saying anything. And so she kept talking

789
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: and she spotted me. I was like, crap, she spotted me.

790
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: So she meant so she.

791
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 5: Called my name, and I went up there and I

792
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 5: was and I gave her speaking. And I'm so glad

793
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: that I got to give a speech directly to Mama

794
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 5: because I got to tell her how when I was

795
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 5: a child, how because she got me when she was forty,

796
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 5: so it was like a forty year old having a

797
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 5: nine month old child all over again. So you know,

798
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 5: she literally raised me, you know, breaking me from birth.

799
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: And so I was telling her I much appreciate her.

800
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: And one thing I told her that being on a

801
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 5: child man, sometimes I could be hard because it's like

802
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 5: I'm getting this all this energy and all this attention

803
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 5: that I don't want. I was like, ain't you got

804
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: time time and put this attention and spend this energy

805
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 5: and ef but on to somebody else. Can't you go

806
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 5: do something else other than looking at me and giving

807
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 5: me all this undervited attention. But as you get older,

808
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: you begin to learn that a lot of it's out

809
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 5: of love, you know. So I I the older I get,

810
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 5: the more I appreciate my mama and what she's done

811
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 5: and her sacrifices and her love for me.

812
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: And the older I get, the.

813
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 5: More I understand why she did the things that she did.

814
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 5: Because when you're child, you know, your perspective is very

815
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 5: limited on adulthood and the decisions adults have to make.

816
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: And as a child, you.

817
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: Don't look at your parents as flawed, You don't look

818
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: at your parents as people, You don't look at your

819
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: parents as as as as.

820
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 4: A whole person.

821
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 5: And so you know, the older you get, you begin

822
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 5: to look at them as a whole person. You begin

823
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 5: to say, okay, yes, you know, adults are flawed, and

824
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 5: my parents are human, and they do make mistakes, and

825
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 5: they may have done some things, but it you know,

826
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: it wasn't out of spite or hurt to hurt me.

827
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: Or they might have done some things based off of

828
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 5: the knowledge that they had at that time, or based

829
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 5: off the tools that they had at that time.

830
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: And so as you grow and you mature, it helps me.

831
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 4: It helped me evolve.

832
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 5: So I had a wonderful time celebrating my mama. She

833
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 5: got lots of gifts and all types of stuff. So

834
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 5: I had a ball going to her birthday party yesterday.

835
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 5: And one thing about old people in their birthday party,

836
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 5: that shit is in and out. That shit was over

837
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: a little.

838
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: After six, and I was like, all right, good, I

839
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 4: love everybody. I'm out.

840
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 5: So you know they ain't gonna be like the like

841
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 5: the young folks, we want to party till midnight.

842
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 4: Them folks. Was like, I got shit to do.

843
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 5: I gotta be in bed for the sun go down

844
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: because bitch is late.

845
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: So that's one thing. One good thing. I loved by

846
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: party with old people and they were getting it.

847
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: Yes, we were talking about doing a whible. Yeah, we're

848
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 5: doing a little wobble. We was doing electric slide.

849
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: Honey.

850
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 5: What was funny is that some of the older people

851
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 5: they didn't even know how to do the dances. But honey,

852
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 5: they were left right to stepping it and just right

853
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 5: left and honey, we just had.

854
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 4: A ball. And then it was one older gentleman.

855
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: He had a cane and he literally danced the whole time.

856
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: He danced as she turned off the music. He was

857
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: dancing more than me. One I put it online. He

858
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: picked this cane up on hounded and he was getting

859
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 5: it and he was I was like, oh my god,

860
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 5: you got more injury than me.

861
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: I had to go sit down, you know.

862
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 5: But I had a ball dancing that had a photographers

863
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: and so you know, I'm probably gonna get some more

864
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: pictures that have professional photographers there and stuff like that.

865
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 5: So I really really had a ball because I know

866
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: I talked to you about it and stuff like that, and.

867
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, go ahead and go. And I

868
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: am so glad that.

869
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: I I went, and I'm so glad that I got

870
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 5: to show my mama love, and I got to see

871
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 5: family members.

872
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: It was just a really really happy occasion because a.

873
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: Lot of times that much family don't get to give

874
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 5: a lot of times with his death. So I was

875
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 5: so glad that we got to celebrate her life and

876
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: got to tell her why she was alive and living,

877
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 5: how much you love her and how much we appreciate her.

878
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Plus, I mean it's different than when we was

879
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: growing up.

880
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: Like with these older folks now, like they be fucking

881
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: so they were probably in there, you know, having a

882
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: good time dancing, and you know at six, they was like,

883
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 2: y'all need to go, Like you thought you was getting

884
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: to leave, but they was really the ones like goddamn

885
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: these kids. Thank god they gone, Let's get back to

886
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: what we've been doing up in this.

887
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: Old folks home all day. You know, come on, like

888
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 3: that's why, that's why it's lit out there now, you know.

889
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: That probably is why is lit.

890
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: And everybody knows, Sister Clyde, all them young folks got

891
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: to get the hell up out of hell.

892
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Big Mama and Pap Paul and all them, they're

893
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: getting it on now.

894
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: It's different than the old.

895
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: People we grew up with come on, you know, all

896
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: these medical advances and.

897
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: Drugs and people live alonge and shit.

898
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, they're not just living longer, but

899
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: they more you know, productive at the older ages. So

900
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: you know, there was a lot of hips smashing against

901
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 2: each other and getting replaced.

902
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: Probably last night.

903
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 4: You know it was dog because I tell y'all, they

904
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: were getting it. They was getting it.

905
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw, I saw on the videos and I

906
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: was like, yep, more people having sex.

907
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the news.

908
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 5: Thank you for coming to my ted talking about it.

909
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 5: I just had to give all my thoughts out because

910
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 5: I was on my mind.

911
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: You don't need yeah, no, it's your show. So you know,

912
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: sometimes I feel like I do too much talking. So

913
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: that was a welcome change.

914
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, because, like I said, other than me trying to

915
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 5: empty myself to death, Yeah, I had to get get

916
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: those thoughts out because, like I said, the past three

917
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 5: days have just been kind of going and asking questions

918
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 5: and it was just been interesting learning and stuff like that.

919
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about news. What is going on

920
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: in the news. Actually, I want to get somebody props

921
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: because they wrote about us. I didn't even see this.

922
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: They wrote about its us last year.

923
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: But and it's a very short thing they wrote. But

924
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: I didn't you know.

925
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: I was just I was googling our name because I

926
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: was trying to find a link to spoil movie reviews

927
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: to see if it was on Stitcher yet. And I

928
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: found this this blog post called the Progressive Writer Podcast

929
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: Subscription mixtape by this guy named Mike Epiphany, and the

930
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: website just Heardtale dot com and he actually put us first,

931
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: which is kind of interesting. Is and we're in a

932
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: section called for Progressive Perspectives The Black Guy who tips

933
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: I have to start off with my personal favorite. If

934
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: you're not listening to Riding Karen as often as you can,

935
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: you're doing yourself at disservice. Come for the Black America

936
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: progressive perspective on every social issue, from current events to

937
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: things people somehow still can't accept. Stay for their unmatched

938
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: chemistry with and fascinating insight. Seriously, I can't recommend this

939
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: podcast enough. I posted a link on my on my

940
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: Facebook page. Somebody's like, y'all got phrase of cranes listen

941
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: to podcasts now? I was like, ah, because I think

942
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: I think there's this idea that because of what we do,

943
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: there are no white people that listen to our show,

944
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: or white people are scared off of our show or whatever.

945
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: But that's that's that's ridiculous, right, nothing can get popular.

946
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: White people in America don't to some level consuming. I'm

947
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: not saying the main people that consume it, but it's

948
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: just fucking impossible for us to be, you know, on

949
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: these charts and ship without somebody white hearing some of

950
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: the ship.

951
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I'm sure they can't hate every word

952
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: of it.

953
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: So I appreciate, uh, the homie writing about us and

954
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: putting it out there. And there's a bunch of other

955
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: shows on this list. Larry will Moore is black on

956
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: the Air. Well, I'm glad Well's revisionist history. You know,

957
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: the Blacklist.

958
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 3: Table reads uh uh.

959
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: Just a bunch of stuff. So and he also was

960
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: saying that, you know, he was gonna make uh. He

961
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: also recommended like another list of other people that listened

962
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: to for like women perspectives and stuff. So anyway, it

963
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: was kind of a it was kind of cool. Thank

964
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: you for writing about us, Thank you? Were you gonna

965
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: say something I'm sorry?

966
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, did you want to do the

967
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: stuff we forgot? For yesterday.

968
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, this is quick too.

969
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

970
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: Some people send us stuff in the mail, yes, this

971
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: last week, two weeks, and I forgot to mention them

972
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: on the Airback show yesterday.

973
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, two things we didn't get notes for.

974
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: So if you send us something on Amazon, maybe you

975
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: wanted it to be anonymous, and that's why we didn't

976
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: get a note. But I know sometimes they sent us

977
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: a note like, yo, someone said you something. Somebody sent

978
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: a pumpkin spice shirt Karen. Yes, it says blood type

979
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: is punk and spice, which we can never have enough

980
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: of these shirts. And then they also said this like fragrance,

981
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: which is sounds so fancy. I don't know if it's

982
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: because it's all in French. I don't know if it's

983
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: for men women what It's just it's a verbiene or

984
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: to which I think means a colonne or perfume la oxyta.

985
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what any of this means. It's got

986
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: a brail righting on.

987
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: The side, like this is too fancy to me, So yeah,

988
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

989
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: Among all the aromatic herbs that grow along the paths

990
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: of province, there's one whose lemony freshness revives the body

991
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: in the mind.

992
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: Its name verbena.

993
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: When baskets are powered high with freshly harvested green, verbena leaves.

994
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: It's distinctive fragrance fills the air around the markets of

995
00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: province enriched with verbena extract from province and verbena. The

996
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: verena or de toilet is a sparkling fragrance with.

997
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: A universal freshness.

998
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: You spray it, then I spray it. Yeah, when I

999
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: first got it, I opened it up. Of course I

1000
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: sprayed I'm black.

1001
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just you know, you.

1002
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: Can't put it directly on you, just little that you

1003
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 2: want to smell some Yes, so that smells like lemon, right.

1004
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: You spell it?

1005
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, gave a second.

1006
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, we're not We're not roughians over here. We were

1007
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: just just a little spray.

1008
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 4: That's good.

1009
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: And then.

1010
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: We got a book and a movie, which is which

1011
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: is funny because I'm sure whoever sent this probably things

1012
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: about one of these guesses for you and one of

1013
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: these guests for me. Yeah, Charine, it said half Birthday

1014
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: ride Enjoy. Oh wait, no, they are both for me.

1015
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 4: Oh okay, that would make more sense.

1016
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, because I thought they had as soon.

1017
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: But you know what you do. You know me too well.

1018
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, they sent The Villainous, which is a foreign

1019
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: movie action movie about a woman that uh kills a

1020
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: lot of people impossible white man but starting an Asian

1021
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: woman and it also uh they also sent me The

1022
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: Feminist Collective, which Brittany Cooper, Susannah Morris, and Robin Boy

1023
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: Lauren wrote this book. I had it on my wish

1024
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: list for a long time and nah own it. Bam,

1025
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: thank you, Happy birthday to me. All right, back to

1026
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 2: uh the news serious xmbout Pandora for three point five billion.

1027
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 5: I hope uh Pandora get their algorithm a little bitter

1028
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 5: because I used to love Pandora and this was years

1029
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 5: ago before like Spotify and.

1030
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 4: Uh uh title.

1031
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 5: I think a music may have been around, but I

1032
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 5: didn't use it back then. And the thing about Endora

1033
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 5: was that you'd be rocking then all of a sudden,

1034
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what's up with the algorithm. It would

1035
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 5: just thole something random. You were like, I want to

1036
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 5: use I want to play let's say old school R

1037
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: and B, and you'd be pottying. All of a sudden

1038
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 5: you hear some erowsmith. You don't how to fuck Arrowsmith.

1039
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 5: Getting this like little shit like that used to irritate

1040
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 5: me because.

1041
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: I was like, uh, no, if if.

1042
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: I go from you know, John B to Luther Vandross

1043
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 5: to Janet, how is Arrowsmith.

1044
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: Mixed in with this?

1045
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 5: So I don't know how they got the algorithm together,

1046
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 5: so that one thing that irritate me. But once you

1047
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 5: had uh stuff like Spotify and Title and then Affle

1048
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 5: Music kind of stepped their game up, a.

1049
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 4: Lot of people actually left.

1050
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 5: There are some people that still use Pandora, but a

1051
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 5: lot of people actually left and went to these other

1052
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 5: services where you can kind of more tailor make made

1053
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 5: your music, and a lot of them actually not trying funny.

1054
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: Their lists actually better, the list they create and the

1055
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: things they put together, and it actually like with the

1056
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 5: shows you can actually listen to soundtracks of shows like

1057
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 5: it is actually just so much better on these of

1058
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: the genres in Pandora actually just plain and simple. And

1059
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 5: then what happens with Pandora they don't ever a lot

1060
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 5: of times it's like a listen they just roll that

1061
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 5: same list around. That is, sometimes it's not a variety

1062
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 5: of music in the list. Sometimes if you listen long enough,

1063
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 5: you actually start hearing the same songs over noverre again.

1064
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, why am I sitting here

1065
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 5: listening to something that isn't actually trying to spread my

1066
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: music out or introduce me to anything new, you know

1067
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: type of thing. So I think, my opinion, that's why

1068
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 5: a lot of people left.

1069
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: Well, the article says Serious XMS acquiring Pandora for three

1070
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: point five billion. The satellite radio company says intends to

1071
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 2: maintain the Pandora service and brand, along with the roughly

1072
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: seventy million monthly active.

1073
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: Users, five point six million of which.

1074
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: Are paying members, which stands at double that of Serious

1075
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: XMS exsting thirty six million subscribers. I wonder if they're

1076
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: going to just turn this into like a bonus thing

1077
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: for their subscribers or something, because you know.

1078
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: If you pay, you probably get Serious. I could see

1079
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 5: you saying, hey, you pay for XM, you get Pandora.

1080
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: You pay for Pandora, you get like that will make sense.

1081
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: Serious XM has previously invested four hundred and eighty million

1082
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: for a nineteen percent stake in the streaming service back

1083
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: in June twenty seventeen, leading to speculation that it might

1084
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 2: intend to buy the company outright. Now, it seems Pandora

1085
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: will join serious XM's portfolio as its first full on

1086
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: streaming service to complement its existing radio services, which include

1087
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: an Internet only subscription. Although Pandora has been around for

1088
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: almost two decades, in recent years of struggle to gain

1089
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: traction against new streaming music players such as Spotify Apple Music. Initially,

1090
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: Pandora was a radio style service that recommended music algorithmically

1091
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: based on your performance on your purfoss rather than letting

1092
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: you select from a catalog. Then in twenty seventeen, they

1093
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: launched Pandora Premium, which gave users the ability to curate

1094
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: has some paylists, but in the first half of twenty

1095
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: eighteen the company lost over two hundred million dollars. Yikes,

1096
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: that's a lot of money, yep.

1097
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: Because even with that, you can select your own which

1098
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 5: is fine. Like I said before, there are a lot

1099
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 5: of active views there, don't get me wrong, but I

1100
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 5: Spotify and.

1101
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: Some of these other services are so much better at it.

1102
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: And other big you know, kind of industry news or whatnot.

1103
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: BuzzFeed stopped doing podcasting. Basically, they cut their podcasting team

1104
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: to focus on video, which sucks, you know, because that

1105
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: was the home of some good podcasts.

1106
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: Another Round was over there.

1107
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: We've had Tracy on our show before. And I don't

1108
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: know what that you know, what that means for the

1109
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: future of them. I know they stopped making podcasts basically

1110
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: a year ago, correct, and when some of the stuff

1111
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: before they announced these cuts or whatever. I know, they

1112
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: stopped making podcasts and nobody knew what was gonna happen.

1113
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm sure they get tired of getting

1114
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: fucking asked about that ship, so I'm not I'm not

1115
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: even trying to go ask, but yeah, who knows, man,

1116
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: I hope you know, I don't. You know, I don't

1117
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: know what they're up to now. But you know, they

1118
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: weren't the only ones see something, say something the news

1119
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: and reporting. You also were podcast over at BuzzFeed, and

1120
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, it seems like they will no longer exist, uh,

1121
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 2: which is sad and sucks. And it's kind of interesting

1122
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 2: because you know, people are speculating about what it could

1123
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: be and what it was and why. But I think

1124
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: for the most part, as a digital media company, producing

1125
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: video content is probably easier to some extent.

1126
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: And less expensive because.

1127
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: They've created a process of outsourcing a lot of it.

1128
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: That than it is to.

1129
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: Commit time to doing a podcast, especially if you're gonna,

1130
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: you know, invest like maybe in trying to get certain guests,

1131
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 2: having the staff on hand that specializes in this stuff,

1132
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: and you know, if they pay them how they pay them,

1133
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: stuff like that, as opposed to, you know, the way

1134
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: they streamlined the video shit where people can almost do

1135
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: it themselves and just.

1136
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: Give BuzzFeed the video.

1137
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: And videos are shorter and when it comes to advertising

1138
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: you have to deal with completely different.

1139
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 5: Monster that And I don't ever think that they were

1140
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 5: serious about it. They don't want to invest. This is

1141
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 5: like when people come out and they go, we're podcasts

1142
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 5: app and you go, well, y'all don't have none of

1143
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 5: the features. You didn't invest into this. You just don't

1144
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 5: care about the genre.

1145
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 3: What makes you feel like they didn't invest in the podcast?

1146
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 5: They did because actually, if they want my opinion, they

1147
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 5: won't do this right.

1148
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: You should have.

1149
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 5: Created a network a whole because you got engine years,

1150
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 5: did you Probably you're paying full time.

1151
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 4: You have producers that you're paying full time.

1152
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 2: So I don't know that they were paying full time,

1153
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: but yeah, I feel what you're saying.

1154
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: A network would have made more sense, because then you

1155
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 5: almost could have mass produced what you do to actually

1156
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 5: get more listening orders. You could have had just a

1157
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 5: barde to of different show.

1158
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: So what do you mean like network, because like loud

1159
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: Speakers has a network, right, are you sure BuzzFeed didn't

1160
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: have a network.

1161
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 5: Or if they did, I don't other than those what

1162
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: what other BuzzFeed podcast today?

1163
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: They see something, say something the news reporting to you.

1164
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 2: They had several podcasts like it wasn't just another round

1165
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: and that's it. Like they just divested from podcasting period,

1166
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: like they had been producing more than more than one

1167
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 2: and then decided we're just not going to produce any

1168
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: podcasts anymore.

1169
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. And also I think that they, like you say,

1170
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: I think from.

1171
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 5: Their perspective, and I guess because since we do podcasts

1172
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 5: and you about up a good point, they could have

1173
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 5: actually had people produce podcasts and given to them just

1174
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 5: like these videos.

1175
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: But something like that never crossed their minds.

1176
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 3: Well that's what they're gonna be, sounds like they're gonna do.

1177
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: Now.

1178
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: We've decided to move to a production model that's more

1179
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: like our TV project, that is treating shows as individual

1180
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: projects with teams brought in as needed. So I'm guessing

1181
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: they're looking kind of like Atlanta Monster, Cereal, things of

1182
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: this nature where we bring in a podcast to like

1183
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: serialized tell a story and outsource all that work and

1184
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: then we just bring them in and Okay, that project's

1185
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: over the end of that podcast. And if you're looking

1186
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: for viral podcasting, if you're looking to monetize a topic,

1187
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: that model probably does seem to make the most sense

1188
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: because that is easier to sell people on because it's

1189
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 2: closer to TV, and people like this idea of oh,

1190
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: thirteen episodes is a season of blank podcast and it's

1191
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: about you know this murder that happened or something like that.

1192
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 3: People like that shit.

1193
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying it's the only way to monetize,

1194
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: but for a company, they sound like they're trying to

1195
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: investigate hits. And when we talk about the biggest podcast

1196
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: that took the you know, least amount of probably take

1197
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: the least amount of commitment and to get the most results.

1198
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: And I'm not knocking those podcasts. I'm sure there are

1199
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: a ton of work. But you are talking about Cereal,

1200
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 2: you are talking about Atlanta Monster, you are talking about

1201
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: these true crime like type of type of shows because

1202
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: you're just telling a story. Maybe you go interview a

1203
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: couple of people, you chop it up and edit it.

1204
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: It's a lot of you know, work that way.

1205
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: But you know, it's probably a less of an investment

1206
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: than hiring a couple of people and paying them to

1207
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: give their opinion on things every week, you know, and

1208
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: that would go into perpetuity as opposed to having a

1209
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: finite ending of Okay, you got fifteen episodes to tell

1210
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: the story and that's the end. So that's one of

1211
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: the things I was thinking. I don't all of this

1212
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: speculation because we don't work there. My understanding is they

1213
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: don't really pay people like on staff one hundred percent

1214
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: like that anyway, as far as like even the podcast

1215
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: people weren't getting like here's your full one k, your

1216
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: forty hour week job. So even the stability of that

1217
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: is probably you know, not as good as it could

1218
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: have been.

1219
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: My guess is.

1220
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: My guess is just you know, the podcast professionals we are,

1221
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: they could not monetize it as much as the profit.

1222
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 3: Margin on video is.

1223
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: I agree because the difference between video is let's say

1224
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: it does take the same amount of time to make

1225
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: a good podcast. Once a week, as it takes to

1226
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 2: make a video once a week. Let's say I don't

1227
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: know that that's true, but let's say it it probably

1228
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: takes less. But whatever the video is between two to

1229
00:55:52,440 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: five minutes. Probably the video has already been commodified enough

1230
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: that we have video. We have like ads and stuff

1231
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: built into the base of it. So here's a five

1232
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: second ad, you click past it. Human beings have already

1233
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: adjusted to that. Here's we can put product placement in

1234
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: the ad, in the in the video. The video is

1235
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: five minutes long. You can watch it ten times. You know,

1236
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 2: you can share it with people. People are more likely

1237
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: to watch it on your Facebook page, people are more

1238
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: likely to listen. You can put it on Twitter, Facebook

1239
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: and YouTube. You know, you can put it like it's

1240
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: incorporated into the fabric of those platforms. Now that people

1241
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: get video content right on their phones and shit, and

1242
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: they just watch it. Podcasts is, while it's more of

1243
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: a dedicated audience, they have to be you gotta go

1244
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: find it right, and it's taking a listening investment of

1245
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: you're talking. Even the short podcast thirty minutes to an

1246
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 2: hour a week, you're talking. Most of that content being

1247
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: the talking. You might can put a live REA ad,

1248
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: people can fast forward through it. You might can put

1249
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 2: one of those pre or post ads, people can fast

1250
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: forward through that, people can cut it off. It's just

1251
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: harder to monetize based on if you compare it to video.

1252
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 3: Is my guests?

1253
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that.

1254
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: And when you're a company, what profit margin are you

1255
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: looking for to make this a worthwhile investment? And depending

1256
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: on what their I don't know what it was, but

1257
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: depending on what their investment was, because it could vary.

1258
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: Were they playing for people to fly out, were they

1259
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: paying for hotels, were they paying for were they paying

1260
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: for the host to go places? You know, you know,

1261
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: what was the deal with all that shit? We don't know,

1262
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: you know, what did they expect to be to return

1263
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: on it? You know, if they do a live show

1264
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: and they quote unquote break even, they might look at

1265
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: that as a failure. As you know, independent podcasters. We

1266
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: might be like, oh cool, we were able to do

1267
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: this event and things worked out, you know, so I

1268
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: don't know. It makes me wonder all that shit, which

1269
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: we'll never know because we don't work there and we're

1270
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: not at the company. But you know, it just sucks

1271
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: that that that these voices.

1272
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

1273
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: I liked that BuzzFeed was doing this because I liked

1274
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: that there was by doing this, I mean podcasting, because

1275
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: I liked that there were a podcasts that were supported.

1276
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: And had ends.

1277
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: And you know, I listened to another round and I

1278
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: never felt any level of like these inauthentic blacks or

1279
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: whatever that you know people try to do, you know,

1280
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: the trap brunch black or whatever the fuck. Like they

1281
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: just felt like two black people. And I love that

1282
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: they had the pull because you have BuzzFeed behind you

1283
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: to be like Hillary Clint can come on our podcast.

1284
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not going on an independent media's podcast.

1285
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: Right, and when and when we're talking about something like that,

1286
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: let's talk about the alternatives. Because I'd rather have been

1287
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: in Tracy be asking Hillary Clinton questions than the only

1288
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: other black space I know that she made a podcast

1289
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: appearance was a breakfast club. Correct, Like, who's gonna ask

1290
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: questions that I want to hear answer and who's gonna

1291
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: you know, make jokes about it whether she has hot

1292
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: saucing or person or not for thirty minutes, you know.

1293
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 3: So it was kind of.

1294
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: It's kind of sad that that that'll be missed, you know,

1295
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 2: it'll be missed, is what I'm trying to say.

1296
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was one of those things where, like

1297
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 5: I said, I understand what you were saying, but yeah,

1298
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 5: it was one of those things where they didn't have

1299
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 5: the long term dedication because, like I said, the profit margins.

1300
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 5: So for them, they were like, look, if it don't

1301
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 5: make money, it don't make sense. I completely understand that,

1302
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 5: but I'm like, it was heartbreaking because because it was BuzzFeed,

1303
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: they had access to a lot of shit and they

1304
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 5: could interview a lot of people that in that smaller pieces,

1305
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 5: I mean, smaller podcasts would never even get considered.

1306
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: And I mean, you know, you say not a long

1307
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: term investment, but that show started three years ago. Like

1308
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't take it light Like I'm not.

1309
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: There's no bad guys here to me unless something else

1310
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: comes out that we find some more information where they

1311
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: just did them dirty. There doesn't seem to be a

1312
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: bad guy. They tried, They just it's it just depends

1313
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: on your expectations. Coo so like, and also, this shit

1314
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: is the wild wild West. They were probably learning as

1315
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: they were doing it. What how much money can we expect?

1316
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: What are the ways to get money, because if they

1317
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: can't get money from it, they're not gonna do it forever.

1318
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: It's ain't a charity, you know, and if they feel

1319
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: like they're not getting enough money, they're not gonna do

1320
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: it because it's not charity.

1321
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: So, you know, I would be interested.

1322
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd ever tell us, but i'd be

1323
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: interested to know how that happened, Like, well, how that

1324
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: work out, because you know that were there was just

1325
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people there that that that really had

1326
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: voices that I thought were cool, you know, and I

1327
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: thought they got interviews with people that I was like, oh,

1328
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad they introduced me to this and some of

1329
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: the topics they talked about. It's kind of cool, but

1330
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, it kind of sucks that

1331
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: we won't be seeing the Hopefully we'll see more, but

1332
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: I don't know they we'll see a lot of podcasts

1333
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: get invested in like that by companies that allowed them

1334
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: to have the backing to go in places that typically

1335
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: would not.

1336
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: Have black voices at all.

1337
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: Agreed, you know, so uh and I saw like the

1338
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: day that this this is old news, but when it

1339
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: got dropped, people were, you know, like because they didn't

1340
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: list Heaving and Tracy's podcast is one of the ones

1341
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: or or them as employees who lost their jobs. And

1342
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: I saw Tracy had to go on Twitter to be

1343
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: like I lost.

1344
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: My job today too. So I'm not sure while they

1345
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: left that out.

1346
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: People probably asking her like, hey, don what's up.

1347
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why, you know, I don't know

1348
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: what the inside insight to all that could be, you know,

1349
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,479
Speaker 2: but I know it's been hard tone monetize podcast because

1350
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: what people thought they were was gonna be like this easy,

1351
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: cheap investment, and you turn around to make all this

1352
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: money right, and you know, while you can't get a

1353
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: certain amount of listeners from just calling something the BuzzFeed podcast,

1354
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: you know, like and they did good jobs of promoting them,

1355
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: I know, I remember. I remember we talked about how

1356
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: they had like lists that all of a sudden buzz

1357
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: people put out, like the seventeen podcasts you can't miss,

1358
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden they were put like

1359
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: when another round just started, they was already on the list.

1360
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: It's like we don't have an episode yet. Oh, this

1361
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: is y'all's show. I get it, I get it. This

1362
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 2: is like a this is like a smart way of

1363
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: snotting to add into our fast Yeah, like you like

1364
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: you made like because I mean, people writing us getting

1365
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: mad like y'all not on this list, and I'm like,

1366
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: don't one.

1367
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: The list ain't never made no money for us, and

1368
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 3: it's a list.

1369
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 4: So I understand.

1370
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 3: Well we didn't know at the time, but it's like

1371
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: I started looking. I'm like, well, wait a.

1372
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: Minute, wait a minute, this show is their show. So

1373
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 2: but it turned out to be a good show.

1374
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: Oh it was a great show, you know. So that's

1375
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: the only one that I really listened to over there.

1376
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 3: You know.

1377
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's other ones and whatnot that were dope,

1378
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: but you know, Yeah. They had started in twenty fifteen

1379
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: with another round, The Internet Explorer. They focused on race

1380
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: and pop culture Internet culture, but the company inked the

1381
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: deal with Spotify to produce a new news briefing for

1382
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: its Spotlight service. BuzzFeed's decision to cut its original podcasting

1383
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 2: staff comes on the heels of a similar decision made

1384
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: last week by the audio company Panopoly. Audio Originals, the

1385
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: podcasting unit run by Amazon dot COM's incs Audible Audiobooks division,

1386
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: also laid off several employees earlier this year. Like other

1387
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: digital media firms, BuzzFeed the struggle to keep pace with

1388
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: investor expectation an digital difficult digital advertising market. Last year,

1389
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: Busfeed missed this revenue targets by about three hundred and

1390
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: fifty million. Oh wait, I'm sorry. They missed their target

1391
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: of three hundred and fifty million by about fifteen.

1392
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 3: To twenty percent.

1393
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: Okay, and then they laid off about one hundred employees

1394
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: on this advertising sales and business operations side. In a

1395
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: recent interview with ad Week, Buspeed chief revenue officer Lee

1396
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: Brown said the company was on pace to not to not.

1397
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 3: Double digit revenue growth.

1398
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: In a memo to staff earlier this year, bus Feed

1399
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: chief executive John Peretti said the company posted this first

1400
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: nine quarter figure at the end of twenty seventeen. Yeah,

1401
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: so the thing is like they may be making money,

1402
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 2: but it's just not off of podcasting correct or it's

1403
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: not meeting meeting the expectations they had, And they were like,

1404
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: let's just cut this money because you know, it's not

1405
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: a labor of love for them, right, you know, this

1406
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: is one of benefits I do like of being independent.

1407
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:59,439
Speaker 2: You know, I saw people kind of you know, eulogizing

1408
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: the another round and BuzzFeed and all that stuff, and

1409
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: you know, it was a sad day for you know,

1410
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: to me as a podcaster, it was still sad, right

1411
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: because the important Yeah, and also just what it's just

1412
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: the way I look at the world. But like, if

1413
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 2: his podcast is doing well, especially black podcasts, that's better

1414
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: for all of us, you know, because somebody's gonna be like, oh,

1415
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: let me go. How many people found us because they

1416
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: were looking for something else? How many people found other

1417
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: shows because they were listening to us, Like, you know,

1418
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, It just it.

1419
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 3: Just all sucks.

1420
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: So you know, I hopefully laying on their feed and

1421
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: they're probably already working on something bigger and better that

1422
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know about yet. So correct, let's see,

1423
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: uh anything else? Oh, how about this mosquito pocalypse is

1424
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: in full effect for North Carolina. We have been hit

1425
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: by blood suckond past outbreak, yes, because.

1426
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 5: Our winters have been very war and we didn't have

1427
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 5: enough coal snaps or snow to actually kill a lot

1428
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 5: of mosquitos and bugs.

1429
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: That's how they die in the winter dime.

1430
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 5: So since they didn't die, all of them came back

1431
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 5: and then we just had that flood.

1432
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: Hurricane Florence is where they're saying it's coming from in

1433
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 2: this article.

1434
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: It didn't hit automatically. It's more gradual.

1435
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: It took maybe three or four days after storm pass

1436
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: before it got to this epidemic level. I'm not even

1437
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: on the side of town that had the major flood,

1438
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: and imagine how bad it could.

1439
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: Be over on that end. Yeah, they said it just

1440
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 3: looked like clouds and mosquitoes. Now, holy shit.

1441
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: Mosquito experts say the floodwaters can cause eggs that would

1442
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: have otherwise laid dormant for over a year to hatch,

1443
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 2: sending billions of vicious parasites into the air. The ones

1444
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: playing in the Carolinas are called gally nippers or Sorophora ciliata,

1445
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: according to entomologists Michael Waldevogel of North Carolina State University.

1446
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: The species that can be three times as large as

1447
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: the average mosquito and larvady that are known to play

1448
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: on aquatic animals that are as large as tadpoles. The

1449
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: females grow up to feed on large mammals.

1450
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: O man, climate change versus nature. You scared, Good.

1451
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 4: God, I didn't know to escalate fucking dorm it for

1452
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 4: a year.

1453
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 2: White men who sleep nine hours or more each night

1454
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: are seventy one percent greater have a seventy one percent

1455
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: greater risk of stroke.

1456
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: What mhmm, you heard me?

1457
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: Okay, white men be sleeping too much, they start getting strokes?

1458
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 4: Can't you just be tied?

1459
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 3: I guess it pays to be woke if you're white.

1460
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 4: I guess it.

1461
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: Does lifting life experience.

1462
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: But black men do not face a lower risk of

1463
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: sleeping for sleeping too long. Even appeared to be offered

1464
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: protection by sleeping less than six hours a night, but

1465
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: researchers follow more than sixteen thousand people aged forty five

1466
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: over for six years. During that six years, four hundred

1467
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 2: and sixty of them suffered a stroke. The study found

1468
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: white men, but not women, were a greater risk when

1469
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: they were long sleepers compared to those who got an

1470
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: average night sleeps. The results, which found a difference in

1471
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 2: stroke rates between white and black men, suggest sleep also

1472
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: affects people of different races differently. Sleeping too long may

1473
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: be a wonder sign of health problems for white men,

1474
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: They added, it may just be part of an unhealthy

1475
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: sedentary lifestyle, which makes men more vulnerable to strokes. Doctor

1476
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: Virginia Howard co after the story and said more research

1477
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: is needed obviously. In the meantime, this emphasizes how important

1478
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: it is to be to better monitor and control called

1479
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: the vascular risk factors in middle age to older people

1480
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: who have.

1481
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,480
Speaker 3: Long sleep periods.

1482
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: While we are often told to get more shut out

1483
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: of British study this year reported that nine hours of

1484
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: sleep raises the risk of early death by fourteen percent.

1485
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: The latest study, whose participants had an average age of

1486
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: sixty four, as people how.

1487
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,440
Speaker 3: Long they slept during the weekend. In the weekends.

1488
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 2: The results put long sleeping white men who got nine

1489
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 2: or more hours at a seventy one percent higher risk

1490
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 2: of stroke than male white average sleepers. White women did

1491
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: not affect their risk of stroke regardless of how long

1492
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: they slept. The study found that black men who slept

1493
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: less than six hours a night were about eighty percent

1494
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 2: less likely to later have a stroke.

1495
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: We're compared to black men who were average sleepers.

1496
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 4: So there were no black women in this study.

1497
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: Uh, they do not have anything about black women on here,

1498
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: just white women, white men, and black men.

1499
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 4: We always get lift out the studies.

1500
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 3: Because all the women are white and all the blacks men.

1501
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 4: Parent it.

1502
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 5: So yep, I guess we're just so wo there was like, y'all,

1503
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 5: beit just don't sleep by we stood in y'all.

1504
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, this protection for short sleepers is not present

1505
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: for black women, it says, so there you go, uh white.

1506
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: Uh but but but it's still didn't isolate y'all. It's

1507
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: like it wasn't present for black women, white men, or

1508
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: white women.

1509
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 3: By the way that I know other races of people.

1510
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 3: It's just black and white right.

1511
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: Now. So that's it. So it's just black and white

1512
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 4: like nothing else in between.

1513
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: Sound like we just need to find a way to

1514
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: get these white people to sleep a little longer, that's all.

1515
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: Get these white men to sleep a little longer, y'all.

1516
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 2: Y'all think we can make play them.

1517
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: Some lullabies or get them to read books.

1518
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, something set there alarm clocks off, get

1519
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: us a better world. All right, let's see what else

1520
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,440
Speaker 2: you got here. I guess we can move into some games.

1521
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 2: We've been chit checking long enough.

1522
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 3: And football is on. Let's see how about.

1523
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: Uh uh yeah, I guess so fucking with black people, we're.

1524
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 5: Just fucking with those black people were just fucking with

1525
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 5: those blacks.

1526
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 3: We're just fucking with.

1527
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 2: Fucking with black people. That's right, Guys trying to play

1528
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: the game we all.

1529
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 3: Hate to play. It's fucking with black people the game.

1530
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: We go all around the club. We find it.

1531
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: Articles make us feel fucked with the will sign points

1532
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: sports zil and twenty five today's contestants. Everybody, all right,

1533
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 2: see who's fucking with us today? Beat Middler says women

1534
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: are the N word of the world and then apologize

1535
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: that the receiving backlash on Twitter.

1536
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 5: Oh that's what they about was fussing about out Okay,

1537
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 5: I didn't know because I kept saying this was the

1538
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 5: N word. I was like, what is what is Saudia

1539
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 5: jokes coming from m.

1540
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 3: Hm yep uh.

1541
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: Now it's based off a song lyric or a song

1542
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: titled written by Yoko Ono and I think performed by

1543
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 2: one of the Beatles.

1544
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: Maybe John Lennon or one of them niggas, I don't know.

1545
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 3: And she quoted it on Twitter. Uh. She said women

1546
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 3: are the N word of the world.

1547
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 2: Rape, beaten, enslaved, married off, worked like dumb animals do not,

1548
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: education and inheritance and during the pain and danger of

1549
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: children and life in silence for thousands of years. They

1550
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 2: are the most disrespected creatures on earth.

1551
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1552
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 3: No, that's not it.

1553
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 5: I said, allyship because because we all, we all the

1554
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 5: inn word until you turn around the commune nigga.

1555
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: Her original tweet was paraphrasing a lennen on No song

1556
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: Woman is the Nigger of the World, which appeared in

1557
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: the duo's nineteen seventy two albums Sometime in New York City.

1558
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: She deleted the tweet after three hours and then tweeted

1559
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 2: the explanation for the original tweet, saying, I got that

1560
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: I have offended many by my last tweet.

1561
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 3: Women are that, et cetera. Like you get it, guys,

1562
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 3: you get what I.

1563
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: Said quote from Yoko Ono from nineteen seventy two, which

1564
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: I never forget. It rang true then it rings true

1565
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: today whether you like it or not. This is not

1566
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: about race. This is about the status of women, their history.

1567
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 4: So she didn't apologize mm hmm.

1568
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 2: And she said that y'all need to stop tripping because

1569
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: it's about she. Why y'all making this nigger thing about race?

1570
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: Why y'all bringing race into you think?

1571
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 5: Carriet Tupman was walking around with a fucking nice, shiny,

1572
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 5: fucking dress on with a fucking crown on her head when.

1573
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,520
Speaker 4: She was taking slaves.

1574
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 3: That was her response.

1575
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: That was her respond, everybody going to freedom?

1576
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, why y'all making this about race?

1577
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 5: Spider Man, spider Man, spider Man.

1578
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 3: Lookout, yep, that's our ally guys.

1579
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

1580
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 3: Then she tweeted this.

1581
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: The two brief investigation of allegations against Kavanaugh infuriated me angrily.

1582
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 2: I tweeted, without thinking my choice of words of being

1583
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: raging two black women who doubly suffer both by being

1584
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: women and by being black, I am an ally instead

1585
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: with you always have, and I apologize. M m m m.

1586
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 4: That's why I don't believe in allorship. Just be a

1587
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 4: better human being.

1588
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 3: Mm.

1589
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 4: I do not believe in allyship anymore.

1590
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 5: Like I think last year or ever, Trump got boled

1591
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 5: in the office allyship just like, what the fuck is?

1592
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean anything.

1593
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 3: You didn't believe in it before then?

1594
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 5: No I didn't, so you know, I didn't like like,

1595
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 5: but you know, but everybody throw it around his buzzwords

1596
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 5: and nope, don't believe in it?

1597
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think one she fucked up, right. She

1598
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 2: doubled down because this is what white women do, and

1599
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: she basically hits like this is what I've.

1600
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 3: Seen this pattern so many times on social media.

1601
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: It's it's really scary, but white women say something that

1602
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: fits specifically black people or black women, and then they

1603
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 2: do this thing where it's like, y'all not gonna bully me. Uh, y'all,

1604
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 2: I said what I said type of response to which

1605
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 2: that's the part that gets me. I don't care about

1606
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: the first one. I know that I know a lot

1607
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: of people do. I'm not saying you shouldn't. That first

1608
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: part doesn't fucking bother me. I know there's a lot

1609
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 2: of people that just I don't even talk about. No,

1610
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: you fucked up. People fuck up. We got to a

1611
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: place where we act like people don't fuck up, and

1612
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: everybody thinks they're perfect.

1613
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 3: On social media. You delete and erase your fuck ups,

1614
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 3: and we're supposed to act like it never happened. Whatever.

1615
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 2: I don't like when they come back and categorize black.

1616
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 3: Women as these fucking bullies.

1617
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 4: That's the problem. I happened.

1618
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 5: That's why I say, oh no, no, no, don't tell

1619
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 5: me you an ally when something happens, and I'd be like, hey,

1620
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 5: you know that kind offends me.

1621
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 4: And instead of you checking yourself, you go.

1622
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 5: Fuck you didn't ban But a few seconds ago we

1623
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 5: was on the same boat and we was both niggas right.

1624
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: If you had listen, Okay, I give everybody a curve.

1625
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: If you got one black woman, you well, maybe you

1626
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: all right. I don't know, you know what I mean.

1627
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: Maybe that black woman's Candace Owens.

1628
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1629
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 2: But when I see ten thousand black women in your mentions,

1630
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: like the fuck you doing now, I'm looking at you like, so,

1631
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 2: how you fuck up?

1632
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 3: And how you gonna fix this? And when your response.

1633
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: To that is I said what I said, this women

1634
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: is what I said. Nah, you read all that shit

1635
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: and you seen black women talking to you and you

1636
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 2: went missyning on them and was like, ain't nobody finna

1637
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 2: tell me what the fuck I can and can't say.

1638
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: Somebody bent your ear at some point, got to you

1639
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 2: because your blood got hot. That's why you responded fast

1640
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: right away. Somebody got in your ear, whether it was

1641
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 2: a friend or DM or someone pr person, somebody got

1642
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: a hold because she might be an ally like I'm

1643
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 2: not trying to take it away from her. She might

1644
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: have people in her circle that hit her up and said, baby,

1645
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: what you doing? And then she came back and was like,

1646
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 2: my bad job. I fucked up. I am an oyelly,

1647
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. And you know, ally is a word, but

1648
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: it's work. So it's not like anybody's gonna believe her

1649
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 2: right now.

1650
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 3: At this point anyway. And she may have put in

1651
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 3: work and I just.

1652
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 2: Don't know, and I'm ignorant to it, and I'm not like,

1653
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: to me, this ain't even about whether or not she's

1654
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 2: an ally to me, It's about the same pattern that

1655
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: happens over and over again, like how many white women

1656
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: gonna play victim they follow the victim so fast, or

1657
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 2: it's just like y'all will not silence me. It's like

1658
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm silencing your racism. Like this isn't me putting tape

1659
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: on your mouth, this is me put my fingers to

1660
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 2: your lips and going sh.

1661
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 4: That's always saying.

1662
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: Sh no, no, no, you don't know what you're talking.

1663
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 4: I was rooted for you. It's not a niggas that

1664
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 4: love you.

1665
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 2: S Also, this shit SEMs to come up like at

1666
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: least once every three years, someone famous quotes that fucking

1667
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: song which for the record. No black women were involved

1668
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 2: in the making of that fucking song, So you telling

1669
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: me it's a song does nothing for me. Nobody gave

1670
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: them motherfucker's permission to use that shit like this is

1671
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: their idea. And this is one of the problems that

1672
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: people have when it comes to like white liberals and shit,

1673
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: when people are like, we don't think you automatically get

1674
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: it or are on our side just because we have

1675
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 2: some interest in voting together, or we have some interest

1676
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 2: in certain political causes together. We know that it's not

1677
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 2: the same as you truly understanding what it is to

1678
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: be black, because you have moments like this, like you

1679
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: so woke and so liberal that essentially you want to

1680
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: use the N word.

1681
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 3: Women are the real niggas? Like what what what are

1682
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 3: you talking about?

1683
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 5: And and my thing that we talked about this and

1684
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 5: something else that just frustrated me was that I do

1685
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 5: understand with the Kabanova his thing came coming out and

1686
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 5: him getting voted in. I understand there are persentage of

1687
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 5: white women that that don't fuck with him and ain't never

1688
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 5: fucked with him. But I what's frustrating is that now

1689
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 5: is the time that all these angry white women are

1690
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 5: coming out to wood works that actually.

1691
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 4: That they're.

1692
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 5: They they voted for Trump, but now you're mad. You

1693
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 5: know you you voted for Trump and put this nigga

1694
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 5: in office, and now you mad, Like I don't understand

1695
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 5: that concept.

1696
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 2: I would like to see the ven diagram of that,

1697
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 2: that's all. I don't know what those because this so

1698
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: that's this thing that people have been doing since the

1699
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: fifty three to which basically we've extrapolated fifty three to

1700
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. And I don't think it's fair, to

1701
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: be honest, I think a lot of these white women

1702
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 2: are heartbroken.

1703
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: A lot of these white women are hurt.

1704
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: A lot of these white women believed in America in

1705
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: some type of way that they are now being awoken

1706
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 2: to the fact that it is not what you thought

1707
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 2: it was and it can get so much worse than

1708
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: you fucking thought it could. And a lot of them

1709
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,520
Speaker 2: did support Hillary Clinton, and they did vote for Democrats

1710
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: and shit, and they weren't teen Bernie and all that shit.

1711
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: There's a lot of white women that basically welcome to

1712
01:20:59,360 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 2: the club.

1713
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 3: You know.

1714
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not trying to say it pejoratively or meanly,

1715
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: but hey, this is America.

1716
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 3: This is the fuck we've been talking about.

1717
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 2: And some of them like it took it's people keep

1718
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: making it seem like it's this one thing.

1719
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 3: It's not.

1720
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: It's been a war of attrition and there we're not

1721
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: even two years into this motherfucker's presidency and they watched

1722
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: an erosion of just rights and all this shit, and

1723
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: there's an and there's a feeling of helplessness.

1724
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 3: There's an.

1725
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 2: Uh impotence that we all have that we feel sometimes

1726
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 2: and for them, not for us.

1727
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 3: For some of them, this is new to them.

1728
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 4: Correct.

1729
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 5: You can tell that they're feeling these things for the

1730
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 5: first time. That's being wrapped up in that bubble of privilege,

1731
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 5: going oh my god, I can't believe this, and then

1732
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 5: it's a oh my god, the system has failed me,

1733
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 5: like like like they're going through this, this thing that

1734
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 5: niggas have been going through forever.

1735
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 3: But attributing it to Trump voters.

1736
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with that, because the Trump voters

1737
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: I've seen don't really seem to be destroyed or let down.

1738
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 3: They thought they were okay with this.

1739
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 2: I've been seeing too many white women Trump voters talk

1740
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: about I scare for my son, and this is what

1741
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 2: we need, and thank God for that man to help

1742
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 2: get Kavanaugh in.

1743
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 3: They don't care about rape culture. They voted for a rapist,

1744
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 3: they voted for a pussy grabber. This is not a

1745
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: surprise of them.

1746
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 2: None of this is they were having sex skinners in,

1747
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 2: They fucking a white House administration like every three weeks.

1748
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 2: None of this is a surprise. They've had white beaters

1749
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 2: all this shit. So I don't think that that any

1750
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 2: of them are. I think there's a very small percentage

1751
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: of Republican white women who just now had to come

1752
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: to Jesus moment.

1753
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 3: Nah.

1754
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 2: The problem is, as with all whiteness, you're gonna be

1755
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: complicit because you're white. You really can't like white supremacy

1756
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: is what it is. It's like, I'm a man, I'm

1757
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: complicit in patriarchy. Is not whether I want to be

1758
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: here or not. That shit doesn't even fucking matter. By

1759
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: the nature of the world is I can't exist without

1760
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: being some level complicit.

1761
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 3: But I do find that.

1762
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: The emotional state that most of us are in after

1763
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:21,799
Speaker 2: these moments like this, we lash out at everybody agree,

1764
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, like I've been trying not to, Like I said,

1765
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: out yesterday. I'm not engaging these non voter, proud to

1766
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: be apathetic voter motherfuckers. I'm not even engaging them because

1767
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: at that point it's my fault, the same way that

1768
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 2: I don't have anything to say about these white women

1769
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: that have their hearts broken right now, cause I have

1770
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: been having my heartbroken for a long time, and I'm

1771
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: not looking at them like.

1772
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 3: Thank god, you too, bitch. I'm glad.

1773
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 2: Nah, Misery loves company, and a lot of motherfuckers are miserable,

1774
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: and that's why they're picking at these motherfuckers right now,

1775
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: as opposed to like all this we gotta have alliances

1776
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 2: and all this shit like that we gonna build this

1777
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: this blue wave and shit like if it gets built,

1778
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the individual motivations of a group of

1779
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: people collectively coming together, because there is no together. You know,

1780
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: we have not felt together with white people, even as

1781
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: liberal white people, forever. We have not felt like And

1782
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 2: I don't expect them to get it. I'm not even

1783
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: asking them to get it. That's a pipe dream that

1784
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 2: people have. Some some might not saying it's impossible, but

1785
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: just in general, the expectation for me is zero.

1786
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 3: I said it is zero. I'd rather be surprised.

1787
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, these white women are hurting because they this

1788
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: there's we can't talk about this stuff where we talk

1789
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: about sexual assault and then act like it skips over

1790
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: white women. White women get sexual assaulted too, Yes they do.

1791
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: You know, they watched a bunch of people confirmed a

1792
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 2: guy who's been accused of rape. You know, even I

1793
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: take it even further. What it says about our society

1794
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: that the only thing we can himn this dude up

1795
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 2: on the sexual assault.

1796
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 3: Is that's satisfuck.

1797
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: That's sad because the dude has a bunch of other

1798
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: problems before you get to drinking or sexual assault. With

1799
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: just his point of view and the way he talks

1800
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: in this temperament, he is not fit for office. But

1801
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: he's going to be confirmed as a fuck you you know,

1802
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 2: to all of us.

1803
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 3: You know he's going to be. He's confirmed because of that.

1804
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know that it's as much about I

1805
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't get off on these white women suffering.

1806
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 2: I think some people do agree. Agree, I've seen it, Agrea. Yeah,

1807
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm not getting off on it because I know that

1808
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 2: hurt is real. No, their pain is real. I am

1809
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: not dismissing that at all, but to go back to

1810
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 2: the beginning of the story, your hurting.

1811
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 4: Pain does not. When you do shit like that.

1812
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 5: People go, well, bitch, I don't give a fuck about

1813
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 5: your hurting pain. You bought me into something. You could

1814
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 5: have phrased your pain in another way.

1815
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, while I have empathy for these people,

1816
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying to me is a little

1817
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: more pessimistic than even what other folks are saying, because

1818
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is a person like bat Miller is

1819
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 2: probably the good white woman.

1820
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 3: That is the good one that fucked up.

1821
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 2: That's what it is, you know, just like the good

1822
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 2: man still gonna have some some function about him because

1823
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 2: we good, but we men. Too much of the world

1824
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 2: has been catered towards us for us to completely escape

1825
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: unblemished and un you know, compromised. It's too it's impossible.

1826
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 2: So I don't even try to put that out there.

1827
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: But you know there's men that are allies that are

1828
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: also fucked up on some level on something. There would

1829
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 2: be something that some woman somewhere would be like, nah,

1830
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 2: he told me blank one day, you know what I mean.

1831
01:26:55,439 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: So I feel like that's kind of the the made

1832
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: the big thing here is like she probably didn't. I'm

1833
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: pretty sure batmanl ain't vote for the fucking Trump, you know,

1834
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 2: and I'm sure she was in sense that Kavanaugh made it.

1835
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 2: I've seen women share their stories of sexual assault. Now

1836
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 2: many popular, famous women now that hadn't hadn't even talked

1837
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: into me Too movement are now coming out like, yo,

1838
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: this day happened to me. Now, this was a societal moment,

1839
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 2: but it was one larger impotence because what did we

1840
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 2: say when it started, He's gonna get confirmed.

1841
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 5: I was like, what the fuck right? Because my whole

1842
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 5: thing's this. They was never gonna do this investigation. People

1843
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 5: got mad. They pretended to do investigation right up to that,

1844
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 5: nobody said that the fucking boat was gonna change. And

1845
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 5: then doing the investigation, it turned around. It was like,

1846
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 5: we only go do a week and then the fbiside investigating.

1847
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 5: They they kind of snapped them off. No, no, no,

1848
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 5: don't don't go so far. And then a lot of

1849
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 5: his what you call that, his decisions and shit like

1850
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 5: that were never made open to the public, you know,

1851
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 5: they behind the while, so people can't go through and

1852
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 5: read his fucking decisions on a lot of shit you

1853
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 5: can go find out, but you can't, like actually read

1854
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 5: what he said.

1855
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: And it's when he called the fucking questions about this

1856
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: conspiracy from the Clintons, like this is he's a scumming bag,

1857
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 2: he's a piece of he's not fit for office in

1858
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: the way that Trump's not fit for office. But yet

1859
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: possession is no intens of the loss, so they have office.

1860
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 5: Right and once he gets in, ain't no vote. Now

1861
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 5: that's y'all might as well stop that.

1862
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: And it is frustrating. It is frustrating. I understand that frustration.

1863
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: I understand how you can fuck up because you're frustrated.

1864
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm like agree, I just I don't know, man. I'm

1865
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: just not interested in being part of the crowd that, like,

1866
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: we get angry because we're angry about other shit and

1867
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: we're taking out on each other or whatever. And I'm

1868
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 2: also not interested in being anybody's whipping boy and forgiving

1869
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 2: motherfuckers for shit where they where I can. Everybody has

1870
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: seen this mistake over and over again, and we're just

1871
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: tired of it. I'm more tired than I am angry.

1872
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 2: I feel like people, I feel like people get angry,

1873
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 2: But but it's really because we're tired. We're just tired

1874
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: of the same shit and there's nothing you can do

1875
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 2: about it until it's time to vote, and a lot

1876
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: of motherfuckers will tell you they're not even about to

1877
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: do that. So now I'm like, like, like I said

1878
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 2: I wanted to in my heart of hearts yesterday, I

1879
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 2: was gonna spend a lot of the day venting about

1880
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,879
Speaker 2: these fucking I'm still not voting. Don't don't blame my apathy.

1881
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: The system made me apathetic. I just I literally I

1882
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 2: took a deep breath and I said, I'm not doing

1883
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: that because I know what I'm really mad at is

1884
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 2: the fact that people let this have happen, and that

1885
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 2: this is happening, and it's been it's been like a

1886
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 2: snowball rolling down a hill, and now it's an avalanche

1887
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 2: and it's upon us, and I personally can't take the

1888
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 2: dissenting opinions right now, and I'm just not I'm trying

1889
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: to engage in what I find to be important at

1890
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 2: the moment, you know what I mean. But nobody get

1891
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 2: a pass, you know, Like I'm not a huge bat

1892
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 2: Middler fan or whatever. I just don't care that she

1893
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 2: fucked up. I also don't care that she apologized. You know,

1894
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: her calling herself an ally, that's a work thing, that's

1895
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 2: not You don't get to really tell me what the

1896
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 2: fuck kind of ally you are.

1897
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 3: Will see if that's true.

1898
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,560
Speaker 2: She could have fucking took all the black kids to

1899
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 2: school and pay for everybody college for the last twenty years.

1900
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know. I just don't care. And the

1901
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 2: way the things that I know of you are dis

1902
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 2: tweet and beaches or whatever the fuck, So like, come on, like,

1903
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 2: you gotta do better. And again, it's good that she apologized,

1904
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 2: because what we skip over all the time with Jesus

1905
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 2: is that a lot of times people don't even do

1906
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 2: that that White women will walk around Tina Faith, they

1907
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: will walk around and say, y'all black women victimize me too,

1908
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 2: their fucking grave. Meanwhile, they've been just antagonistic and all

1909
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 2: that shit. But I guess I'm just so tired of

1910
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: seeing it. I don't know. I don't want to give

1911
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: it too much of my attention. I guess we just did.

1912
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 3: But anyway, point being, she fucked up zero one hundred.

1913
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 5: How you feel, Oh, yeah, she fucked up she gets

1914
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 5: a hundred cause, like you say, it's a circle, it's

1915
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 5: a cycle. And also me being a black woman, knowing

1916
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 5: the history between black women and white women, you know, it's.

1917
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 4: One of the things was like, but you don't get

1918
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 4: a pass, like don't, I don't.

1919
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 5: Give a fuck, I don't care, you know, like they

1920
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 5: hate to be like that, Like no, you know, because

1921
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 5: you know, you go back and you think about it

1922
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 5: and you're like, oh word, it's like, uh, I know

1923
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 5: everybody learns at different times.

1924
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 4: I know everybody gets awoke at.

1925
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:12,520
Speaker 5: Different times, and I know life is a learning process.

1926
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:18,799
Speaker 5: And I do have compassion and I do have empathy

1927
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 5: and sympathy.

1928
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 4: I really do. But like you said, as a cycle,

1929
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 4: the fuck up, everybody fuck up.

1930
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 5: I'm cool with your sucking up. The response is what

1931
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 5: gets on my nerves. And that response they big old

1932
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 5: fuck you bitch. You know, then you come back, Oh,

1933
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 5: I'm really really sorry, it's time.

1934
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 4: Okay, we will see you know.

1935
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 5: And so like I said, the relationship there, I'm like,

1936
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:43,919
Speaker 5: people make air street mistakes.

1937
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 4: I fuck up.

1938
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 5: Cool, but your response makes people respond to you different ways,

1939
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 5: and particularly being a black woman, I'm so fucking tired

1940
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 5: of all every time we get mad or angry, upset,

1941
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 5: anytime we get agitated, is us being the aggressive regardless

1942
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 5: of if our anger is valid or not, we're the aggressor.

1943
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 5: You fucked up, I pointed out, I'm the fucking problem.

1944
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 5: Get out of here with that.

1945
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: They will turn with black women into white men so

1946
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 2: fast because they basically the playbook for white women is

1947
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: I'm the victim. And when it's with white men, you know,

1948
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 2: it's like, well, yeah, cause white men have this patriarchy insystem,

1949
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: make oppression blah blah, y'all are y'all are dealing with

1950
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 2: from them. But as soon as it's like a black

1951
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: woman says like, nah, what you just did, like don't

1952
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 2: touch my head? That's fucked up.

1953
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 3: It's oh my god, how could you do something so

1954
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 3: mean to me? You know?

1955
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 2: And that's what she tried to hit you with that

1956
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: first response, you know, and then the thing with the

1957
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 2: ally comment and the third response and the apology like

1958
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 2: I said, I.

1959
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Can't take or give. I don't give a fuck about it.

1960
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 2: The Ally thing is so blown out of proportion at

1961
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 2: this point, it says something more to me that you

1962
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 2: tried to evoke it there. You know what I mean, like,

1963
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 2: and I get it, it could be true. This is not

1964
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: even saying it's not true. It could be true, but

1965
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 2: you evoking it in this like I fucked up, y'all,

1966
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 2: but I'm an ally, so remember like I got your back,

1967
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, what we're telling you is you

1968
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 2: clearly did not have our back. What we're telling you

1969
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 2: is that somehow, in this subsection of you caping for

1970
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 2: women and saying that women's oppression is as bad as

1971
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 2: black people's oppression, you somehow forgot black people can be

1972
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 2: women and women can be black people.

1973
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 3: That's all.

1974
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, appropriate response could have been like, yo,

1975
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 2: I fucked up, and my bad and it won't happen again.

1976
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 2: And I do recognize this Twitter, so nobody's gonna really

1977
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 2: forgive anybody. I get that, you know, still gonna be

1978
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 2: a thousand responses.

1979
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: A bit I wore understanding.

1980
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 2: But I just feel like, for the most part, I'm

1981
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 2: more fucked with by the entire state of the country

1982
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 2: right now. And I can identify with her. You're there,

1983
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 2: I can identify with that, But I and I think

1984
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 2: a lot of the anger she's experiencing is that we're

1985
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: really mad at the country agree, you know, like it's

1986
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 2: such a cycle. It's just such a cycle man. But yeah,

1987
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 2: she she fucked up in one hundred. The whole thing

1988
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: made me just feel fucked with. Let me go to

1989
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 2: the next session real.

1990
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 5: Quick, going back to some of the things we said

1991
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 5: before nobody gets canceled.

1992
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 4: She'd be all right, she'd be just fine.

1993
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 5: You know, everything could keep trucking, every every everything will

1994
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 5: keep going whatever route or way that is going.

1995
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 4: And like I said, my thing is like I said,

1996
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 4: for me because of the relationship.

1997
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 5: And you know, uh, particularly when white women act like

1998
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 5: with the problem when I'm going, well, you know, we

1999
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 5: have no power.

2000
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 4: You actually have power over us to be.

2001
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: Told all right, they try to flip the dynamic like

2002
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: it's like, how dare y'all do this to poor me?

2003
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's their playful It's what they do.

2004
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 2: It's why it's so frustrated, you know, someone like Bett

2005
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 2: Miller trying to act like because what she basically did

2006
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: is I'm not gonna say, who's telling me to shut

2007
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:08,560
Speaker 2: the fuck up. What I'm gonna do is say, no

2008
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 2: one should tell a woman to shut the fuck up.

2009
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 2: You know, I saw somebody anyway I don't want to

2010
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 2: get into too many of these, but just in general,

2011
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us are mad, and a

2012
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 2: lot of us are rightfully mad at white women in general.

2013
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 3: So you're getting that.

2014
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 2: You know, cause like you motherfuckers truly betrayed everything that

2015
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 2: y'all said about this country. But at the same time,

2016
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 2: there's a lot of white women that felt betrayed. You know,

2017
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 2: people are gonna make it seem like this is me

2018
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 2: trying to cape, but I'm really not.

2019
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 3: I swear to God, this is just the facts.

2020
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 2: And at some point it has to be addressed that

2021
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 2: there are white people that are hurt, white women, not

2022
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 2: really the men, not that many men, but white women

2023
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 2: that are hurt because they really didn't think that this

2024
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 2: hands made tail shit was gonna be real, Like, come on,

2025
01:36:55,720 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 2: they really thought that their friend and all of them

2026
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 2: were in some sort of cahoots. Because I don't think

2027
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 2: I think white people are so privileged and so comfortable

2028
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 2: that they think they're on the same page. A lot

2029
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 2: of them walk, you know, they walk into these these

2030
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 2: rooms and they don't talk about politics the way that

2031
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 2: when you're black, politics comes up because you're black, right,

2032
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 2: and you're just not gonna escape it because it's just

2033
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: like we like, if you black and you somehow slip

2034
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 2: into being a Republican, you can never bring that shit

2035
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 2: up around no niggas ever.

2036
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 3: Right, But when you're a white woman and you are.

2037
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: Democrat or whatever, a lot of white women that are

2038
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 2: Republican and shit will pretend they'll kick it with you

2039
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: because white people are their privilege has allow them to be.

2040
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 3: Above the politics. Quote unquote. White people are the only

2041
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 3: people that walk around saying it's just politics.

2042
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 4: Right. Do you talk to them about both I'm not

2043
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 4: telling you who I'm both boy days.

2044
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll break.

2045
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 4: It down like like like that that's fucking personal. No,

2046
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 4: I'm not going to talk about that.

2047
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,560
Speaker 2: They live in a fucking last house of an illusion,

2048
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 2: like it's just an illusion. They think they're closer than

2049
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: they are, right, and then you know they go to

2050
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 2: church together.

2051
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,799
Speaker 3: That's why they said all that shit out to twenty sixteen.

2052
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 2: Well I'm still going to Thanksgiving and now I'm not

2053
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: gonna let my parents.

2054
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 3: Because you're white, you can do that.

2055
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 2: And so a lot of white women thought they were

2056
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 2: in a coalition that was never a coalition, and they

2057
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 2: they've been like I think they were shocked when Hillary

2058
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: didn't win, and they was real shocked when they looked

2059
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,879
Speaker 2: at them fucking numbers and was like it was us.

2060
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 4: It was y'all, y'all.

2061
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: Now for us as black people, we felt confirmation. Who

2062
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,520
Speaker 2: was like always felt like that, right, We were sitting around.

2063
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 3: Like, bitch, I told you it was y'all too. We've

2064
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 3: been telling.

2065
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 2: Y'all it's y'all too, you know, like a lot of

2066
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 2: us was doing that. But it's been two years at

2067
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 2: this point, you know, and I'm just hoping that all

2068
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 2: this hurt and shit, these motherfuckers gonna take it to

2069
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 2: the vote, to the voting boo. But more importantly, more

2070
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 2: importantly than that, a lot of them need to be

2071
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 2: addressing their fellow white women.

2072
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 3: And that's the part that I don't think it's getting done.

2073
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 2: No, it is not like what are y'all doing to

2074
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 2: make it not be fifty three percent next time? Because

2075
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's gonna not be fifty three

2076
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 2: percent again. I think it'll be fifty three percent twenty

2077
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 2: eighteen and fifty three percent in two thousand.

2078
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 5: No, And you know what what you need to do

2079
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 5: is have a public Facebook group, not a private when

2080
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 5: a public bacebook group where y'all talk about this shit,

2081
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 5: not one you put behind this extra sequal special that

2082
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 5: you got to vote somebody in because you don't want nobody,

2083
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 5: You don't want your family and friends and.

2084
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 4: Know how you really feel.

2085
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the part that gets to me is

2086
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 2: just you know, I was spoken white woman like beat Miller,

2087
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 2: like whatever the fuck, Like that's her, she fucked up,

2088
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 2: She'll be fine. But it's all the white women that

2089
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 2: are underspoken. They feel uncomfortable about this shit, but they

2090
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 2: I'll just go vote.

2091
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:01,759
Speaker 3: It will take care of itself.

2092
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: And it's like it won't like y'all gotta be motivated,

2093
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 2: you know, like beyond uh just the hats and shit

2094
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: and and to the for the record, a lot of

2095
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 2: these marches, these women marches and these candidates they've done

2096
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 2: good work. It's easy to say they haven't because you

2097
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 2: know pejority of like these white women that pussy has well,

2098
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 2: people don't talk about these pussy had marches. They register

2099
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 2: people to vote, And to me, that's a solution. That's

2100
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 2: a step in the right direction. It's not a solution,

2101
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 2: it's a solution. It's part of the it's part of

2102
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 2: what's helping. So they do things that I do find

2103
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 2: to be constructive. I just you know, and and as

2104
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 2: as a non woman, you know, in a non you know,

2105
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 2: uh survivor of sexual assault, you know, I don't want

2106
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 2: to just dismiss like how that ship must have felt. Man,

2107
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 2: it had to suck, you know, Like just because we

2108
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 2: knew it was gonna happen, don't mean it didn't hurt.

2109
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 2: And I think think that's why everybody was mad yesterday.

2110
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I understanding. And so a lot of

2111
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 4: the stuff I'll talk about on the podcast, I don't

2112
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 4: even talk about a lot of that shit online, Like

2113
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 4: it's just not.

2114
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 5: Worth the engagement and worth the stupidity that actually comes

2115
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 5: along with it. Like nope, I'm not engaging like ignorant

2116
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 5: people and dumb people, and people don't.

2117
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:18,759
Speaker 4: Want to be loud for the sake of being loud.

2118
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, gather your own real talk.

2119
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 2: You gotta gather your own on this because I see

2120
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 2: like these white women walking around with you know, uh,

2121
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 2: Trump hats and fucking guns and all this shit and

2122
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 2: getting famous off the backs of being a blonde white

2123
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: woman who says that.

2124
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 3: And I'm like where's the opposition.

2125
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 2: I mean, we know the fifty three percent, but where's

2126
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 2: the whatever forty seven percent? I know it's lower than that,

2127
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, where's the forty two

2128
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 2: percent or whatever the fuck I mean? Cause essentially, what

2129
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 2: we're talking about is you got a one out of

2130
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 2: two chance of walking into a white woman that uh

2131
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 2: is not just overtly racist, just overtly toxically aggressively racist.

2132
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 3: That's what we have. And then that fifty three the

2133
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 3: real scary part, the real scary part.

2134
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 2: They're not all just no tooth, having maga hat wearing

2135
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,719
Speaker 2: a lot of them are just like I'm a Christian woman.

2136
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 2: I believe that everybody is equal. I don't see race,

2137
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 2: but y'all are killing babies when you have abortions, and

2138
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 2: I just can't vote for somebody that let that's what

2139
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 2: they believe.

2140
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 3: Shit like that. They would never call you a nigger

2141
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 3: to your face. Ever.

2142
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 2: A lot of them don't even really fuck with Trump's racism.

2143
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 2: I go along with racism to get the things that

2144
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 2: they think are valuable, and to me that is much worse.

2145
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 2: But I'd rather you think I was a nigger and

2146
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 2: call me a nigga to my mother fucking face, than

2147
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 2: it'll be like, I'm not racist, but I'm just okay

2148
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 2: with this racist person making decisions for the country as

2149
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 2: long as I think some of my agendas will benefit

2150
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 2: from it. That shit is a scary part. So yeah,

2151
01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't like. It's just hard to try us. It's

2152
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 2: just hard to trust right now. And like I said,

2153
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 2: we'll see what's up in this voting booth. And you know,

2154
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 2: beat Miller hit on all that shit at the same time.

2155
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 3: So that's why she got a hundred because I low ki.

2156
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 3: I don't not to be mean.

2157
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 2: I don't know her, if you know what I'm saying, Like,

2158
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with her music.

2159
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 5: I know she around, I know people love her, but

2160
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 5: I know she's a big deal.

2161
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 4: I don't really follow her like that.

2162
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a ton of black people that fuck

2163
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 2: with her heavy. I'm not even I'm not about to

2164
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:32,839
Speaker 2: rip reach it to her perberly and call her untalented

2165
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 2: and shit that like you know how people do when

2166
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 2: they get mad.

2167
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 3: I have nothing to say about that.

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01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 2: Woman on the average day except your ass need to

2169
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 2: stop quoting lyrics from nineteen seventy two to a song

2170
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 2: that no niggas, nobody that can say the word nigga

2171
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 2: was involved in your nigga song. Come on, stop saying

2172
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 2: that everybody. Why can't they just put this on Why

2173
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 2: is it not a memo or something? This shit never happened,

2174
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 2: but it's gonna happen again within a year or two.

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01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 2: Let's see what else happened. Oh what the bel AIRPD

2176
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 2: hires an officer who shot to me or Rice.

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01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody gets canceled.

2178
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 3: How can you just go back to the same lane

2179
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 3: and what.

2180
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 2: Like, not even like security or something, just a police

2181
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 2: officer again.

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01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:46,759
Speaker 4: Because they would never charge, right.

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01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think he never was charged.

2184
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 4: Right. As long as they never were charged, they could

2185
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 4: go to.

2186
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 3: You would just think another place would be.

2187
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 2: They would google your name and be like, hold up,

2188
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 2: Eric Smith, what do I know his name from?

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01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 4: Two things? Ay?

2190
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 5: Not? If they think you didn't do nothing wrong and

2191
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:13,719
Speaker 5: then b look at the administration we have, they would

2192
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 5: say it was right. They don't give a fuck about

2193
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 5: people protesting.

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01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the thing.

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01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 2: They hired them because they were the people that shot

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01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 2: to meal rights. They literally said the police chief said

2197
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 2: he hired Lowman and Smith. He said he believes both

2198
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 2: men deserve second chances. Smith is still an investigation by

2199
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 2: the Ohio Attorney General's office for allegedly misusing the state

2200
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 2: wide computer system for law enforcement. So both of these

2201
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 2: motherfuckers have fucked up. One of them killed to Maya rights,

2202
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 2: which apparently is on the same level to this police

2203
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: chief as misusing the computer system.

2204
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 4: Because they don't think they did nothing wrong.

2205
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, November twenty fourteen, four years ago, he did

2206
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 2: the this, and.

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01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 3: Now he's working as a police officer.

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01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 2: M m m me keep in mind, lowman didn't even

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01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 2: get fired by the Cleveland police until twenty seventeen, because

2210
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 2: they keep you on board through your trial and then

2211
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 2: as soon as everything's over and they're no, no charges

2212
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,759
Speaker 2: are coming, that's when they cut your ass, which tells

2213
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,679
Speaker 2: me he ain't fit to be in the fucking police force,

2214
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 2: and something must have happened.

2215
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 3: Y'all don't want Hi the boy because a cop no more.

2216
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 3: Everything's okay, everything he did was fine. Why the fuck

2217
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 3: is he not on the street for three years?

2218
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 2: And then you cut him as soon as they're like, okay,

2219
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 2: we're not filing any more charges, that's it. Uh, he's

2220
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 2: clear that any of our wrong doing. He was never

2221
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 2: charges over and done with Seth Flanagan.

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01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, they gotta keep that good old boys network up

2223
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 5: because they don't want the fraternity, or orders or the

2224
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 5: police on their asses.

2225
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 2: Keep in mind the dude had a checkered police record.

2226
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 3: Before he shot to men rights Court.

2227
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 2: A publisher ports Independence Deputy Chief Jim Pollack wrote in

2228
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 2: Lowman's personnel foulder he was weeping and.

2229
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 3: Distracted during firearms training.

2230
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 2: He allegedly told Polack that he was having trouble with

2231
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 2: his girlfriend at the time, but the deputy went further

2232
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 2: in his statements about Loman's competence. He could not follow

2233
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 2: simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and

2234
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 2: his handgoing performance was dismal.

2235
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 3: He recommended that he should lead the department.

2236
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 2: I do not believe time nor training will be able

2237
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 2: to change or correct the deficiencies.

2238
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 3: He said he lacked.

2239
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 2: Maturity to continue working for the Independence Department. He also

2240
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: failed an examined ministered by the Maple Heights, Ohio Police Department.

2241
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 2: Published reports indicate he failed to disclose that in his

2242
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 2: application to the Cleveland Police Department. And this guy goes

2243
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 2: he need a second chance. Nigga is like five chances.

2244
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 2: Even his second chance is born on third base?

2245
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 3: What the fuck?

2246
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 5: You're gonna fuck around the fuck up there too? And

2247
01:47:58,160 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 5: y'all gonna be on plastered across the news.

2248
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 3: Oh man, mm hmmm, all right? One hundred for me?

2249
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 3: You all right?

2250
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 2: And last one, a all white panel at hashtag a

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01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,679
Speaker 2: W New York addresses the lack of diversity in corporate America.

2252
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 4: That sounds about white.

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01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 2: It's co white familiar, Yes it is, as ever refrained.

2254
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:33,839
Speaker 2: Is W is hashtag a W New York not for Adweek?

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01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 3: Is it theirs for all White?

2256
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what that? I don't know what that means?

2257
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 3: Advertising Week?

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01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 2: Uh?

2259
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. They had a bunch of sessions and stuff.

2260
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 2: They had one panel titled CEO Action for Diversity and Inclusion,

2261
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:51,839
Speaker 2: focused on fostering D and I solutions within corporate culture.

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01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,679
Speaker 2: During discussion, the panelists addressed a wide range of issues

2264
01:48:55,720 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 2: including gender inequality, Charlottesville, LGBTQ rights, and implicit BIA's. The

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01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 2: only problem, however, was a blatant lack of ethnic diversity

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01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 2: among the all white panel.

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01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 4: None of that anybody up there, I don't know, did

2268
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 4: you have any LGBTQ people who represented.

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01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 2: Too well, I don't know that we would necessarily know

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01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:15,759
Speaker 2: that by looking or not looking.

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01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'm not I don't know that. But but like,

2272
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 5: if y'all gonna talk.

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01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:23,679
Speaker 2: About these yeah things, if they didn't have any brown people,

2274
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 2: it's safe to assume they may have had some other

2275
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 2: spots that they were.

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01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 3: Not informed on. Agreed, Yeah, I know what you're trying

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01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 3: to say.

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01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's no way, I can't look at

2279
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 2: this panel that nigga gag or whatever. I don't no, no, no,

2280
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that also could have been Still don't matter.

2281
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 2: Still doesn't change the problem that it's you know, who

2282
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 2: are on the panel.

2283
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 3: Though I can look.

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01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 2: At there are at least two people that identify as

2285
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:47,759
Speaker 2: women on the panel.

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01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 3: So you know what I mean, this your panel, that's

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01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 3: what you got.

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01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 4: Did anybody ask them?

2289
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 2: It reminds me of when I worked for this company

2290
01:49:57,160 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 2: and we had the corporate taboo meeting, right and it

2291
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 2: was like, Hey, they gonna we're gonna bring you downstairs

2292
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be able to ask any question you

2293
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 2: want to about the company, and we're gonna answer it. Honestly,

2294
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 2: because transparency is what matters here at our company. I said, okay,

2295
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 2: all right, so we go downstairs and go to the meeting.

2296
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: Everybody's asking questions, and to be honest, most of them

2297
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 2: are asking pretty whack questions, you know.

2298
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 4: So it don't matter.

2299
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 5: That's what they think they're gonna get the most notes mean,

2300
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 5: because they know most people don't care.

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01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 3: They have what seems to be canned answers, in my opinion, for.

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01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,799
Speaker 4: The most part, pre written answers.

2303
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 2: So they said, finally, you know, I had some questions

2304
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 2: from the audience in my session, and you know, a

2305
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 2: couple of people ask questions, and then I finally I

2306
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 2: raised my hand and I was like, yeah, I have

2307
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 2: a question. What what are y'all gonna do about diversity

2308
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 2: among the management of this company? Because as a black

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01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 2: person that was working in a cubicle, when I walked

2310
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 2: by all these officers, I don't ever see any black

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01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 2: people in them, And at that time, we only had

2312
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:07,759
Speaker 2: one black manager at the company.

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01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,640
Speaker 3: And this company was huge. This is not something like

2314
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 3: in my building. We were the.

2315
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 2: Headquarters here in America, and like I said, one black

2316
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 2: person and so uh, when they answered my question, y'all

2317
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 2: know what they said, that's a good question we have

2318
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:31,640
Speaker 2: because the company was headquartered, uh in Copenhagen. They're like,

2319
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 2: we actually just hired our first American as part of

2320
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 2: our management team to you know, corporate head, so you

2321
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 2: know he's our chief financial officer.

2322
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 3: He's a white man.

2323
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 2: We also have diversity where we are hiring more women managers.

2324
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 3: And it was all white women. And then next question, right,

2325
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 3: and every.

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01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 2: Black person in the meeting looked at me when I

2327
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 2: asked that question, as if to say, don't ask that question.

2328
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,799
Speaker 2: And then every black person intently listened to that answer

2329
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 2: because they all fucking cared, right, So they can kiss

2330
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,360
Speaker 2: my ass with that whole don't ask you wanted to know?

2331
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 2: They said we could ask anything. They fired me after this,

2332
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: fuck it, Like what am I supposed to do? I

2333
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 2: asked a question, they fired me. And then the last

2334
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 2: thing was they all noticed when they didn't answer the

2335
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 2: question about black people.

2336
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 4: So that's to confirm your suspicions that they don't give

2337
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 4: a fuck.

2338
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:39,520
Speaker 2: Us, to confirm my suspicions that diversity to them.

2339
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:44,599
Speaker 4: Is not diversity to me, two different definitions of diversity.

2340
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,799
Speaker 3: Their diversity is we got some blondes.

2341
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 2: We got some brunettes, we got some red head white people.

2342
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 2: We got some women white people, right, we got some

2343
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: women white people. We got some white people from California,

2344
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 2: some white people from Texas. We are all kinds of

2345
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 2: diversity of white people, but in this room at the top,

2346
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 2: it need to be white people.

2347
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 3: When asked about the lack of diversity on the panel,

2348
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,560
Speaker 3: Shulier Sulier Suler, Suler.

2349
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 2: Told Black Enterprise, shout out a Black enterprise for being there,

2350
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 2: because that's why we y'all in the room, so y'all

2351
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 2: can ask the questions because no white person was gonna ask. Afterwards,

2352
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 2: said that both she and her partner, who happens to

2353
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:27,600
Speaker 2: be a black.

2354
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:31,600
Speaker 4: Man, why wasn't here.

2355
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 3: Who knows what her partner does? I don't know.

2356
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 2: I don't know she meant her partners or married like

2357
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 2: her husband or boyfriend, or if they meant partners or business.

2358
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. Were aware of the

2359
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 2: glaring oversight, certainly it was not lost on me. In fact,

2360
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 2: my husband said, oh, so it's her husband said he

2361
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 2: was watching via live stream and he was like, do

2362
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 2: you guys know you are all white? And she said,

2363
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 2: it's something we need to work on. She admitted that

2364
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 2: working in corporate in a corporate diversity and USI role

2365
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 2: and being married to African American has helped her make

2366
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: her more aware of situations where minority voices are missing.

2367
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,679
Speaker 2: We're ald white and we're talking about diversity, she said,

2368
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 2: very matter of factly. That's why I think this is

2369
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 2: a journey and we're not there. We're not even close

2370
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 2: to being there. But it's about recognizing it and saying

2371
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 2: what we can do differently next time.

2372
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, this is why no niggas for real? Zero?

2373
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, man.

2374
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to hear it. I don't.

2375
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 3: And it's advertising.

2376
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: We in a year where we watched Papa John fall

2377
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 2: to the bottom because of the people representing them and

2378
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 2: the lack of diversity in their thought process.

2379
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 5: And in the same year we watched Rihanna sell you

2380
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 5: everything short of a car, and that bitch is making

2381
01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 5: all the money.

2382
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:00,040
Speaker 4: She's selling lipsticks, she's selling.

2383
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 2: The Nike got kaepernet and would immediately hit the six

2384
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 2: billion dollar company mark. No, how is there no black

2385
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 2: people on this panel? No brown people on this panel?

2386
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 5: H Yeah, you have brown people selling everything underneath the

2387
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 5: sun and y'all goingp.

2388
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 2: That's why they version of diversity still ain't It still

2389
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 2: ain't really much better because their version of diversity is

2390
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 2: still white people make all the decisions.

2391
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 3: But hey, at least we got some black.

2392
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 2: People who are in the office in their cubicles with us.

2393
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:39,839
Speaker 2: That's not really diversity, don't. You can't hold a decision

2394
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 2: making roll, you can't hold a role that. I would

2395
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 2: never step off of stage and say you could have

2396
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 2: my seat.

2397
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 3: I would never do that, right.

2398
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 5: Because any one of them could have sent a brown

2399
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 5: person that was qualified and say, you know what I've

2400
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 5: been by you go speak on my behalf.

2401
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 2: And you think there would be some self preservation mechanism

2402
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 2: within you that would make you walk up to the

2403
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 2: panel realize everybody else on that bitch was white, and

2404
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 2: be like, I'm actually not gonna be on the panel.

2405
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 3: Guys? Why not?

2406
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 5: Man?

2407
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 3: You would uh? You know what? It just doesn't look right.

2408
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 3: Y'all have a good time. And when they be.

2409
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 5: Like, like, you know what, I just realized I had

2410
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 5: something else scheduled at this time.

2411
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 2: When they hit me up later and be like, what

2412
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 2: ron you were scheduled to be on that panel while

2413
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 2: watch you on there. I'll just be like, man, I

2414
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 2: went up there saying it was about to be all

2415
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 2: white people. We're gonna get fried, Like I don't want

2416
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 2: to get fried.

2417
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 3: That's the real truth. All right.

2418
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 2: We've been going for a while here. What tom, let

2419
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 2: me see what we're looking at two hours?

2420
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 3: Wow?

2421
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 4: Uh you know what?

2422
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 2: No guess or races that. I'm just gonna soword, ratchinness

2423
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 2: and get the fuck out of here. We'll play more

2424
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 2: games tomorrow.

2425
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 3: All right.

2426
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 2: Wasn't sword ratchess sound effect boom?

2427
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 5: I'd have looked at that said, look my day, Why

2428
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 5: don't park up there. I'm I'm gonna go ahead and

2429
01:56:58,560 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 5: step on that room to the left.

2430
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good on that.

2431
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 2: Carson City man attacked the accused of attack with Japanese

2432
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 2: style sword. A thirty three year old Carson City man

2433
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 2: has been arrested on charges accusing him of attacking another

2434
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 2: man with a Japanese style sword.

2435
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 3: The Nevada Uphills Court.

2436
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: Said Joel or Queza attacked the man Monday at a

2437
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 2: residence at North Carson Street, causing severe damage to his hand.

2438
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 2: He was booked on suspicion of battery with a deadly

2439
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 2: weapon and mayhem, possession of a daily weapon and drawing

2440
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 2: a deadly weapon in a threatening manner. He was held

2441
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 2: on sixty thousand dollars fail. Oh cool, they're getting serious

2442
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 2: about it. It's not clear if he has a lawyer.

2443
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 2: Will be appointed one Penning court appearance.

2444
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 3: So all right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll have

2445
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 3: more fun. I'm sure.

2446
01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 2: I gotta look on my Google calendar, but it's either

2447
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 2: Monday too.

2448
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,879
Speaker 3: I think it's Tuesday that Jail Covan will.

2449
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 2: Be a guest on the show and promoted his new

2450
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 2: album Thoughts and Prayers, and uh yeah, I can't wait

2451
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 2: to catch up with him and see what the.

2452
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 3: Hell that dummies into.

2453
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 2: IM sure he'll be saying a bunch of crazy stuff

2454
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 2: that just burning bridges in the in his uh in.

2455
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 3: His in his uh industry. All right, man, until then,

2456
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 3: I love you.

2457
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 4: I love you.